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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 2: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 2: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 2: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King, Monica Garcia and I are back

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Speaker 2: to recap the latest episode of Salt Lake City and.

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Speaker 1: Baby new hair. Who did this?

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Speaker 3: Yes, honey, so what do you got?

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Speaker 1: Did you go to Angie K's Harris Salon?

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Speaker 3: Do you know the fuck? I didn't? You already know

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Speaker 3: the fuck I did. She wouldn't have seen me anyway, bit,

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Speaker 3: she would have turned my ass right around and here,

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Speaker 3: you know, she would have been like, you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: pay for.

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Speaker 1: This, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I don't know who whoever did your hair.

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Speaker 2: It looks amazing. It's like well, like blonde highlights, like talking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a caramel queen. Now, yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Am a Caramel King. And listen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am so thrilled to talk about this episode

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Speaker 2: with you because you and I were on the same

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Speaker 2: page last week about like the fighting is getting kind

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Speaker 2: of redundant, we're kind of over it when the personal

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Speaker 2: story we need something different. Yeah, Wantaica Garcia. That's why

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Speaker 2: I always tell people there just wait a week, because baby,

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Speaker 2: this episode was on FOT.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's probably been my favorite episode so far. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been my favorite episode so far. I feel like

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Speaker 3: we got depths this episode. You already know I can

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Speaker 3: acknowledge shit, I can say that I can have those feelings,

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Speaker 3: and I think that it gave us. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's get into it, because there was a lot. There

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Speaker 3: is a lot.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot, and we got to get into it.

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Speaker 2: So much has happened. Let's start with the scene that

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Speaker 2: began the episode, so we got a chance to see

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Speaker 2: bron went talk to Todd and look, I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to dive into this with you, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the ending of the episode, but let's let's get to

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Speaker 2: the beginning first. So Todd and Bromway decided to like

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Speaker 2: have us sit down there eating. She tells Todd that look,

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Speaker 2: her favorite part of her dessert is to eat the

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Speaker 2: cherry last he ate it before she did. And listen, listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: The reason why to me, I gotta start there with you.

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Speaker 3: Is because tell me why.

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Speaker 1: It's because the cherry on top.

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Speaker 2: To me, which, by the way, Lizzie, we gotta call

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Speaker 2: this episode that the cherry on top for me is

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Speaker 2: symbolic in terms of how Todd is dismissed up to

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Speaker 2: broun Win. And I know people are like, really, Bronwyn,

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Speaker 2: You're like, man that he hates your cherry.

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Speaker 1: I think I just realized how that came across.

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Speaker 2: I say, he popped the cherry and listen, I hope

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Speaker 2: he's eating her cherry, but I need for him to

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Speaker 2: understand that. I felt that what Bronwin was identifying is

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Speaker 2: the fact that her husband is dismissive to her and

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Speaker 2: does whatever the fuck he wants to do. And to me,

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Speaker 2: this scene was evident in terms of the way she.

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Speaker 2: She to me, this is my opinion, like she's walking

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Speaker 2: on eggshells and she's doing everything to not piss him off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot happening that I will say

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Speaker 3: was probably the first scene that really had me like

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Speaker 3: locked in where I was analyzing everything and the cherry

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Speaker 3: is such it's so symbolic in a huge way for

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Speaker 3: more and the dynamic and the respect and the love.

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Speaker 3: I mean, right, if your significant other you know that

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Speaker 3: the cherry is their favorite part, it says a lot

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Speaker 3: when you just gobble it up. Yeah, So, I mean

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Speaker 3: that was really really symbolic. I will say also in

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Speaker 3: that scene, what kind of struck me? I just feel

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be doing this. He is so

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Speaker 3: Like it was just he did not want to be there.

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Speaker 3: And it's so apparent, and it would be so interesting

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Speaker 3: to see what their conversations off screen are like, because

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Speaker 3: would be. I mean he I just was like, Van,

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Speaker 3: us because you do not want to be here, sir No,

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Speaker 3: And that's, you know, to each his own. A lot

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Speaker 3: takes a lot to commit to bearing your all and

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Speaker 3: filming these scenes. And he just seems like not down

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Speaker 3: with the bullshit. He's so far removed from being involved

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Speaker 1: No, I could not agree with you more.

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Speaker 2: And to me, as the kids would stay online, it

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Speaker 2: was a scheme that Todd set up, and not top

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Speaker 2: from Alanta Housewives, Todd's from Salt Lake City, which, by

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Speaker 2: the way, living that's our episode title. A scheme that

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Speaker 2: Todd set up because to me, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 2: what my spidy senses was highlighting. Yes, tell me came

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Speaker 2: to Todd and Browin and you know what, fuck this,

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Speaker 2: Let's not go to chronological order because the way the

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Speaker 2: episode was book ended, which how it started and how

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Speaker 2: it ended, I felt like, I feel like you have

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Speaker 2: to combine it to in order Tom a psyche you've Todd.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I almost went there too, so I bet, yeah,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, yeah this show. Nope. I was literally Carlos,

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Speaker 3: you and I we are the same. I literally was

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Speaker 3: just going to say, and I stopped myself because of

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Speaker 3: the order when he turned to her and said, I

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Speaker 3: don't know why you want to be around these women.

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Speaker 3: And obviously for us viewers whoever, it's she wants to

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Speaker 3: for that. If they want to be on the show,

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Speaker 3: let them be on the show, you know whatever. There's

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Speaker 3: no shame that Brahman wants to be on the show.

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Speaker 3: She wants her own thing. She wants to do this.

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Speaker 3: That's great, that is great. Her husband doesn't support it,

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Speaker 3: She doesn't want to be around these women either, trust

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Speaker 3: but she wants to be there. She wants to be

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Speaker 2: She wants to be I got a chance to meet

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Speaker 2: Braun with at Kathy Hilton's Christmas party last year, Monica.

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Speaker 1: And when I say to you, first of all, she's

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Speaker 1: gorge in person. On top of that, Monica, she's so sweet,

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Speaker 2: Darling, and she literally understands the assignment like she was.

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Speaker 2: She gets sick because she's Listen, at this stage in life,

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Speaker 2: everybody has seen a Housewives season, an episode or four hundred. Like,

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Speaker 2: no one's walking into this franchise of any Housewives show.

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Speaker 1: Like I never heard of the show. It's a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's a lie. We've all seen it. And she knew

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Speaker 2: And I say all of that to say, my Spidey

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Speaker 2: seen this on.

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Speaker 1: My other shows.

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Speaker 2: Brodwin wants a life outside of Todd. And in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: I think this is her exit plan.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I I and and and and I think it shows

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Speaker 2: to me what it gave when Camille Grammar and Kelsey Grammar,

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Speaker 2: do you remember like the first season of Beverley Hill's Housewives,

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Speaker 2: and you kind of saw how Kelsey was dismissed to her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How and how how? I can't think, literally have a

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Speaker 1: brainfap right now, Camille.

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Speaker 2: How Camille was was very like, you know, she sort

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Speaker 2: Come to find out, Kelsey said an interview a couple

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Speaker 2: of years after that that he alleged that he and

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Speaker 2: Camille had an understanding that he was leaving the marriage

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Speaker 2: and this was pretty much his parting gift to her, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you want to be famous, here you go, I'll

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Speaker 2: And he said she she was aware that he had

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh no, Kelsey is spilled gone.

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Speaker 2: He alleged that she knew he had a girlfriend, and

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Speaker 2: that this was his parting gift, that you want to

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying Todd that's the scheme that Todd set up.

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Speaker 2: But what I do believe is this maybe Tod is

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Speaker 2: no maybe because Todd is no dummy. I think Todd

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Speaker 1: I think I think all the guys I think is

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Speaker 2: But he's doing this because, in my opinion, and I

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Speaker 2: hate to put this on anyone's marriage and I'm not

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Speaker 2: I think they're not going to last. One or two

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Speaker 2: things has to happen. Either either listen, either this is

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Speaker 3: And I don't think it's her last season. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think that she she brings something to the cast.

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Speaker 3: She really does, and people seem to really like her.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I will say the allegations that came out in the

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Speaker 3: to skirt, I can't talk about that. It's like, okay, honey,

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Speaker 3: I guess what we're going to talk about it, because, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Monica, we need to get into the fact that in

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Speaker 2: this episode and rain Drops, we have to just dig

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Speaker 2: into this far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, trust me, we're going to talk about marrying her part.

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Speaker 2: So I know, right you will be disappointed. So I'll

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Speaker 2: hold your gas and hold breath because we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that later. But we have to get into the allegation

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Speaker 2: that the allegation and headlines that came to earth came

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Speaker 2: to light.

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Speaker 1: After her and Lisa made up, and we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: Too, But allegations came to light that Brahman has a

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Speaker 2: past where twenty years ago she sat on camera her

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Speaker 2: confessionals that you know, she had an eviction.

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Speaker 1: She did, you know, she was honest about that.

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Speaker 2: She also said that ten years ago, right, something legally happened.

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Speaker 2: It was sealed. The other situations were dismissed. This particular

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Speaker 2: situation ten years ago was dismissed, but it was sealed,

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Speaker 2: and that because of that, she's unable to talk about

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Speaker 2: Call me jaws Okay, movie parts one, two, and three.

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Speaker 3: On your own. That's on you. That's on you. You're

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Speaker 2: If something happens, I'm not helping you anymore because you

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Speaker 2: I think Tom's like, what are you getting out of

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Speaker 2: let me say this, have you ever watched Ozark?

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Speaker 3: That his new show with Jude Law. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 3: But Ozark is the perfect example of this. You have

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard pissing on someone who may be on fire. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, guys, baseball watching this episode and and

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Speaker 1: This man, this man, he's done. He's done.

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Speaker 2: He did an interview and he I'm paraphrasing, but he

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I love bram and Brahman is fantastic for the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm just based on Todd this season.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like Broadwin, you know him bet than we do.

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Speaker 2: And girl, I just I just think this man wants

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Speaker 1: But what you think? But you think if.

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Speaker 2: You had to guess, Yeah, what would Brahman choose Todd

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Speaker 3: Look, it's hard for me because I don't know why

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Speaker 2: You know, Heather is by the way. Listen, what do about

436
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: me a monica? We give promises due rain jobs. Listen up,

437
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: I have a confession to make my usher boys. Okay,

438
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying Heather of this season.

439
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm I listened. I know, goodbye. Listen listen. I enjoyed

440
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: her this episode. Listen.

441
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: I feel like when it comes their personal life, we're

442
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: getting we're getting nothing.

443
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Nothing was there.

444
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: I do feel like she's activated in terms of trying

445
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: to get these girls to fight and argue and look

446
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: low key, I'm here for it.

447
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: But look, well that's all she can give us because

448
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: she doesn't want to share her real life. So she's

449
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 3: just going to continue to expose everybody else's to keep

450
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: sharing her own.

451
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: And that's what she's been doing, right, That's just that's

452
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: just facts. That's facts. That's that's no copy in printer machine.

453
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: Okay, luck for her, Lucky for her. That's what we

454
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: call unscathed bitch. Good for her.

455
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: I love you, so I heard and Lisa decide to

456
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: me and listen, we'll recap more about that. But you know,

457
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: she also meets with Meredith, and you know what was

458
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: hanging over everyone's head is the fact that they think

459
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: Lisa is somebody that gathers information on people and she

460
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: brings it to earth, whether it's sure or not. Just

461
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: like this whole thing about it wasn't a suit man

462
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: like Campbell's.

463
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: It was a suit man like man's warehouse.

464
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: I'm so glad they cleared that up because I was

465
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: actually confused. So I'm glad that.

466
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: That was.

467
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: A light dame.

468
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, but then when he said she makes

469
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: shut up because she wanted to see what stinks, and

470
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: then it made me think, okay, huh. And then have

471
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: that meets with the Meredith and it's like, why are

472
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 2: you forgiving her? I believe that Lisa is somebody that

473
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: will say things about you and reveal things if she's

474
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: mad at you.

475
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: Then I said, huh. I combine those two things.

476
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: And then at the end, Bromwin says, do I think

477
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: Lisa has something to do with it? Listen, Bronwen, I

478
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: feel like Lisa may have had something to do with

479
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: with this coming out I don't think it's coincidence.

480
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: You've been on the show. This is your what second season?

481
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: I think when.

482
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: It came out last season, why I do you Monica

483
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: think Lisa is the one who revealed all this shit

484
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: about Bronwyn.

485
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: No, I actually don't think that.

486
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I know that.

487
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: Okay, there is a big difference. And let me tell you,

488
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: she did the same shit to me. And when I

489
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: tell you, I have receipts of her reaching out to

490
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: people I hadn't spoken to in years, I hadn't been

491
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: friends with in years, trying to get dirt on me

492
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: and expose things like what can you tell us about Monica?

493
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Da da da da da? They would tell their own

494
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: story about their life. There was a part of Reunion

495
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: that was filmed that they completely cut out because it

496
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: made no sense to even bring it up that I'm like,

497
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: what are you even talking about, to the point where

498
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: in the middle of her going off Andy Andy Cohen

499
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, you know what, there's We're not using

500
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: any of this. This is not making sense, Like she

501
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: really My point is, yes, yes, she reaches out to

502
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: whoever she is in their dms, trying to get dirt

503
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: on people one hundred percent talking to old friends, old

504
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: family members, old whoever. And then she will she'll just

505
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: row it out there and you're like, what the fuck

506
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: is this? And but it's out there and she says it,

507
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: and you're like, there's this is insane. I'm gonna tell

508
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: you some real tea. On that reunion stage, she tried

509
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: to accuse me of sleeping with a man that I

510
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: met for five minutes. Five minutes I met him one

511
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: time with my husband. My husband was right there with me,

512
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: and she's out here throwing these bullshit allegations like it's insane. Actually,

513
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: so yes, I don't think Carlos, I fucking know I

514
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: have experienced it. She one hundred percent does that, And

515
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: it's really fucking sick to be honest, because then what

516
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: you do is you've thrown it out there and at

517
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: that point it's out there whether it's true or not,

518
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: you know. So it's very dangerous. It's very very reckless.

519
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: And if someone were doing that to her, good luck.

520
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: But she does it, she does it. Heather's not wrong.

521
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: Heather's not wrong in saying that.

522
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: And that's why I was pleased that she was honest about, Like, look,

523
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: this is how I feel about Lisa and Lisa.

524
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Listen, we saw that Lisa and John had communication.

525
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: Skills and it's and I couldn't wait to talk to

526
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: you about this because I enjoyed Lisa on the show.

527
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: Actually I think she's fumbing. She's great whatever, She's the

528
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: great reality star. There is something interesting when it comes

529
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: to the way these women describe their friendships with her. Yeah,

530
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, did this show change Lisa, Like was

531
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: Lisa somebody different before the show started? Because I'm curious

532
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: it terms up to be accused of digging up dirt

533
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: on people. I do believe Angie when Angie says she

534
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: asked me to dig up dirt on Meredith.

535
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: And I actually believe that.

536
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: And I felt like these women it's coming from a

537
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: truthful place. I don't think they're like creating the stuff.

538
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: And the fact that rain drops. You need to listen

539
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: to how people talk on these shows in order to

540
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: understand it and forget about your faith.

541
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: And we all have a faith, but let's have a

542
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: real conversation here.

543
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: The fact that she said I didn't say soup man,

544
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: I said suit man, And it's like, well, who is

545
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: this suit man?

546
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Like what is it?

547
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: What's the story? What's going on here? And you said

548
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: this after you what we saw? I thought you guys

549
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: made up. Me and Monica recapped two weeks ago when

550
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Britney revealed that after that explosive lunch that Lisa had,

551
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: you guys hung out and party and had dinner. So

552
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: why also come for Lisa again? Why continue to talk

553
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: about Lisa not Lisa? And again yeah, yes, why talk

554
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: about and again I thought you guys made up. You

555
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: then send somebody to get your products out of her store.

556
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: You then confront her at her event last week, and

557
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like we're heard this episode

558
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Bromise info is leaked, yep it and these are two women,

559
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: think about it. These are two women that confronted her

560
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: at her own luncheon. And you need to tell me

561
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: within two weeks both of they should come out.

562
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you like like I I mean they

563
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: they've even said stuff to bloggers about me failing psych evaluations.

564
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: For like, I want to clear that up.

565
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: There is a rumor that allegedly you felt a PSACH

566
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: exam when you were being approached for Traders and House

567
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: of Villain.

568
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I did House of Villains, so

569
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: I don't think I failed anything there. I did Housewives,

570
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: so I didn't fail that one. And Traders, I never

571
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: even had one conversation with them, not one. They sent

572
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: one email to my manager. That was it. That was

573
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: where it went, that is where it stopped. I never

574
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: even had a phone call to even talk about having

575
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: to take us out good violation. So it's this is

576
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: exactly my point, though, you say these very very damaging

577
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: things that are so not true. I didn't even have

578
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: a conversation with someone, Carlos, I never even had a

579
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: meeting with someone, and then you're gonna say she failed

580
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 3: the psych evaluation that's why she didn't do Traders, like

581
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 3: I haven't even talked to anyone from Traders. So it's

582
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: just it's true. They just throw shit out there and

583
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: people grab on and they believe it as truth their bible,

584
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: and it's really actually it's really fucking sad. It's actually

585
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: really fucking sad, you know, because I have kids, so

586
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: to be out there like saying stuff like that heavy

587
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: is really it's dangerous, very dangerous.

588
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah no, and I saw that, and I'm listen.

589
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm a buye for a second, because again I'm a

590
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: producer and I'm how this works, and my thing is this, anybody,

591
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: let's say somebody does fell a psychy valve, that shit

592
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: is so protected and legalized when it comes to like

593
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: medical and all that shit that would not come out.

594
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: It's to the point where you have to be the

595
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: creative of the show and a high level executive producer

596
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: to even know that that level of sensitive information. So

597
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: when I saw that that was leaked, I'm like, that

598
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: makes no sense because it's only a handful of people

599
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: less than five who would know that that that deals

600
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: would have shown that magnitude. So I'm glad you were

601
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: able to clear that up.

602
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

603
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

604
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: I also was happy that Mary cleared up that she

605
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: has gased and that she did not far that it

606
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: was the dog who farted, and that's why she was

607
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: mad at Angie. Look, this scene made me laugh out

608
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: loud the entire time, and it was the comedy relief

609
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: that I needed.

610
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Mary and Angie's a little bit is hilarious to me.

611
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: Mother Mary never fails to deliver. And let me tell

612
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: you why only Mary could take a fart and turn

613
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: it into such a beautiful emotional moment and that is

614
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: the gift that is Mary Cosby, because the fart was

615
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: truly just the segue into real emotion for her, and

616
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: it was it was a beautiful scene. I loved watching.

617
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: I loved that, and that is the gift that Mary brings.

618
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: And it's it's incredible, it really is because the way

619
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: she was talking about being triggered and the way she

620
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: was like, I don't let people in and I've let

621
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: you in and that means something, and the way it

622
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: kind of opened up the door to like her fears

623
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: and anxiety with friendships, and it just it really did

624
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: lead into such a beautiful scene. Honestly, I thought it

625
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: was such a real conversation between like that's a conversation

626
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: I would have with my friends. It was so so

627
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: pure from Mary. And I love that she called Angie

628
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: out like you're changing, You're you're kind of getting into yourself.

629
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Because I think for me it was breaking the fourth

630
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: wall a little bit.

631
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: Right, yea, yep, one hundred percent, And it's true. And

632
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: I think that we I've also seen that online that

633
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: people are like, hey, Angie's starting to do too much.

634
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: And I love that Mary clocked it and called her out,

635
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: and she's one hundred percent right that that was a lot.

636
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: It's it's been a lot.

637
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, And I love Angie down and I

638
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: do think and listen, every every reality star has this moment.

639
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Some continue to have in multiple seasons. This is the

640
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: first season. Why I do think my sweet Angie is

641
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: you know, has has sipped the kool At. I'm not

642
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna say she drank it fully.

643
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: She took a pup or two.

644
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: And I think she's filling herself a little bit.

645
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: And I think I think Mary's like, I don't recognize

646
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: you because I am your friend. Find a new sister

647
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: if that's how you're going to act, because I know

648
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: if you if you can't hear me, somebody who doesn't

649
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: yell at you, who is quiet, you know.

650
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: Like I can't. I can't be friends with someone like that.

651
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: My advice saying Angie is this, and I think she's

652
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: a great addition to the show, is to not get

653
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: caught up with the housewife's fanfare of like people bringing

654
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: you up, like take it with a grain of salt,

655
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: because they will turn on you.

656
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: That's just how audiences are.

657
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: And they'll love you again they hate you they love

658
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: you again. Whatever, Yep, but thought I thought that the

659
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: fact same thing I thought. I thought Mary was telling

660
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: her you're changing because of the.

661
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: Show, and I didn't recognize you anymore. And I'm telling

662
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: you right now, I don't like this shit.

663
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: And I love her for that because it's true. It's true,

664
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: and a real friend would say that to you. And

665
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: so that's what I think made it feel very, very genuine,

666
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: because that's a conversation a real friendship would have, like,

667
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: look like you're starting to get your head's getting big,

668
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: and I don't like it, and I don't like the

669
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: person you're becoming because of it, and that's not the

670
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: friendship I want for us moving forward. Like I loved it.

671
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: I loved that scene.

672
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was amazing. My favorite part is when

673
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: she said I did not come here to cry. I

674
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: came here to tell you all. I'm like, yes, Mary,

675
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: like I came with an agenda. But like you said, Monica,

676
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: it was nice that these two were able to get

677
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: past it.

678
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm happy that they got past it. Now.

679
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: One of the things that I thought was so interesting

680
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: is the fact that when they brought up.

681
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: Brittany and her daughter and honey Bunny pudding.

682
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: Iye, harlow. That was really m hard for me to

683
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: watch because first of all, I have to give props

684
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: to the daughter because.

685
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: So smart, the.

686
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: Emotional maturity she had with expressing her feelings and why,

687
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: and I felt so seen in that. If you remember,

688
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: I had very similar conversations with my mom, and I

689
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: even said I think in one of my confessionals, like

690
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: it felt like a revolving door of men, and that

691
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: is where her priority was. I talked about how you know,

692
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 3: like I would see her making out with people and

693
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: I would be in the back rooms or in the

694
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: fucking trunk of a car. And so it's just I felt.

695
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: I was so proud of her because that is so

696
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: real to feel like you are second choice to your

697
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: mother's dating life. The way I felt that so hard,

698
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: and the way she handled her mother in that moment

699
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: for her age was so far beyond her years. I mean,

700
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: she was so eloquent with how she worded herself and

701
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: even checking her mom like don't put that on me,

702
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: don't put that on me, like immediately correct. And I

703
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: was very proud of her daughter. I was shocked that

704
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: her daughter filmed. I felt uncomfortable as hell when she

705
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: walked in and they were like, you know, the awkward

706
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: hug moment, but that that I was very very powerful

707
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: and real scene.

708
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it blew my mind away. It was unexpected. Yes,

709
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: the rain drops that what we're talking about is bringing

710
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: in her daughter meet up. Like Monica said, I have

711
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: this awkward greeting in terms of trying to hug each other.

712
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: And what we what we learn in this scene is

713
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: the fact that the daughter was able to eloquently speak

714
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: to us about the fact that for the first twelve

715
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: years of her life that Britney was the best mother

716
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: that any girl could ask for. She attended every single

717
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: field trip, she attended every single dance for her silver side,

718
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: all the things, and that was she was a mother

719
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: that every daughter deserves. Yes, but she remarried and met

720
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: this man, and her daughter says that the woman who

721
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: was her mother for the first twelve years, all of

722
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: a sudden, the switch came off and she became a

723
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: completely different person, so much so that you know what

724
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: the daughter is saying without saying fully, it's the fact that, look,

725
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: it appears that Britney chose a man over her kids,

726
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: and the daughters decided.

727
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: To leave and go with their dad and the.

728
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: Daughter like you think I want to talk to my

729
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: father about my period? Like do you do you think

730
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: that's what I want? And this second time meeting, the

731
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: first time, you had Jared there and y'all was making

732
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: God in front of me and you paid me no attention.

733
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I what the dude? What the Yeah?

734
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: It was so fucking proud of her, so impressed, so impressed.

735
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that I want to ask you this. You

736
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: know I don't live in Salt Lake City, obviously, but

737
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: does this have anything to do with the Mormon culture?

738
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't have anything to do with salta City culture, because

739
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, we heard things about this, Like I really

740
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't have the answer in terms of trying to

741
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: dissect how a hands on mom with daughters can be

742
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: like that for twelve years of their lives, meet a

743
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: man and then all of a sudden she becomes a

744
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: different person and bring me to me as a funny,

745
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: wacky character.

746
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: And I mean that as possible. Yeah, I.

747
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: It's sad because she's pretty much saying that you're unrecognizable.

748
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: And you can't blame the show because Britan just got

749
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: on the show.

750
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: So it's not the show.

751
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: It clearly is this man she met. I do wonder

752
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: was she involved us with sort a cult? Was she

753
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: what happens to where you become someone different?

754
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: I just I don't know because I experienced the same

755
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: thing with my mom and we didn't live in Utah,

756
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 3: so it's yeah, it's it's so hard. I mean, it's

757
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: definitely got to be a deeper rooted issue. Obviously, it

758
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: has to be. There's something that happened. It's so hard.

759
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: It's so hard for me because I feel like I've

760
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: been through that with my mom, and I've also been

761
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: in a relationships that are abusive, So part of me

762
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: is like, was she dealing with some form of abuse

763
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: that made her There's no excuse, that's the problem. There's Unfortunately,

764
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: there's no excuse, and her daughter's feelings are one hundred

765
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: percent valid. And we can try and be like, well,

766
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: why this, why that? You know, why is Brittany you

767
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: know whatever? But unfortunately, at the end of the day,

768
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: the daughter, the child in the situation, is always going

769
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: to trump the adults. And you know, that was a

770
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: very hard thing, I'm sure for Brittany to have to

771
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: I can't imagine hearing that I can't no, it.

772
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: Was like you said, it was hard to watch and

773
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: that listen. I felt like Saltlake City works best when

774
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: episodes are like this, when you're able to get a

775
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: little bit of drama or even big drama, but when

776
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: you balance it out with like these really amazing personal stories,

777
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: because I now understand more about Brittany than I just thought, like, Okay,

778
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: she's on the show because she's a wacky character and

779
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: she means into it and look, I'm here for it. Yeah,

780
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: but I can't agree with you more about.

781
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Her daughter, like the fact that she said yes, the

782
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: fact that she had a confessional.

783
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: The fact that I thought I was like, holy shit,

784
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: she's got her own confessional, like go off, go off,

785
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: get it out, baby.

786
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: Girl, baby maybe, and you're and you're changing lives. So yeah,

787
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: this episode, to me, it was a ten out of ten.

788
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: I love this episode. We get to see what happens

789
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: next week.

790
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Is if promise on the trip or not? Child, But

791
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: what I will say is this was.

792
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: A great episode, and I'm happy that it wasn't about

793
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: the roughest of writing and yelling, but it was more

794
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: about let's settle a bit, let's get to know things

795
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: more and I'm here for so Monica, Look, did you

796
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: like this episode?

797
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: It's been my favorite episode so far this season. Yeah,

798
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: I did. I did. I haven't enjoyed the other ones truly.

799
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: This one gave me so much and I felt like

800
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: it was coming from everyone, and so yeah, I can

801
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: appreciate that one hundred per Yeah.

802
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: No, I agree more well, Monica, Thank you so much,

803
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: my darling. Listen Wednesday becoming my favorite day of the week.

804
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: I love so much. Yes, I'll see you next Wednesday, Darling.

805
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: Yes, love you.

806
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: FY Reality with the King is executive produced by me

807
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: Carlos King, produced by Lizzie.

808
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.

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00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,719
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