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Speaker 1: Welcome y'all to another edition. Was this episode nine? Look

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Speaker 1: Dragonfly Jones. Yeah, it's thrilled to have you one of

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Speaker 1: big big men, who I mean or he was one

425
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Speaker 1: of the first stretch for you know what I mean?

426
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: Love don Nelson? Yeah, yeah, and um but yeah, that

427
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: that dunk boom on a K Like like I said,

428
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: we knew they were playing with house money. We knew

429
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: they were not getting past the Jazz that postseason. And

430
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: for him to just go body to body lift his

431
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: jersey up back. This is back before the jersey popping era,

432
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: Like the was gonna be a pioneer. You know, this

433
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: is two thousand and seven, and you know he went

434
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Speaker 1: bodied the body on a k you know you had

435
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: with like the hook and then just you know popped this. Yeah,

436
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: that was an all time over for sure. That was

437
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: when the broadcast would like cut to the noise meter

438
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: and whoa they really they really like that. They're a

439
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: loud out of control on this noise meter. A lot

440
00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: of good things and not such living scoring. Hello. Oh

441
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: they hit one oh seven. I don't know what that

442
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: number means, but they hit one or seven on that

443
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: noise meter sound level meter. It is labeled Wait, so

444
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: that wasn't the series where they shocked the world. No, No,

445
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: they beat the mass before Okay bounces. Yeah. Man, he

446
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: got around Darren and he was like, man, all right, Andre,

447
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: that's on you bro? Can you handle this? Was? That?

448
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: Was that a waste trainer on Baron Davis? Like I know,

449
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: I wasn't like I wasn't. Does appear as though Baron

450
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: Davis is wearing spanks before they were invented. Let me see, yep,

451
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: he got the one that was made by body glove.

452
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah that dunk. I mean, poor poor Caro Lenko.

453
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Let me just let me just

454
00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: see I'm not just living s Hello, he goes up.

455
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: I mean he's obviously got the length, but when he

456
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: goes you're being beat with velocity, upward velocity, and you're like,

457
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: get out my way. He didn't stand a chance. Sorry.

458
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: AK forty seven For young fans like Baron Davis was

459
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, six four and built like a brick house,

460
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: if I can swear once. On this episode, he he

461
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: goes up Karen Linko, who is what like six eight

462
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: six nine. He's a big, tall dude, great defender, and

463
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: Davis like cocks it back and like turns his back

464
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: to the basket and then like almost like winding up

465
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: like it's a nomo and then like yams on him.

466
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: It's it's an act of beauty, an act of violence.

467
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Baron Davis was so fun. Man. Oh yeah, what a

468
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: time to be alive. When Baron Davis was like, you know,

469
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: really doing it for the Warriors. Oh, what's next on

470
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: your on your countdown Dragonfly? Next next on the Dragonfly?

471
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: Uh uh Kobe over nash m hmmm. I love that.

472
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: I love that one oh five, oh six? Uh. This

473
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: is this was again people who may or may not

474
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: have heard based on how we speak on this show.

475
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong Laker fan. Uh and this one is

476
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: absolutely one of those dunks like you'll always remember just

477
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: from like just kind of how the play came together.

478
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, this was like in transition

479
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: or a fast break or something. This is just kind

480
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: of like Lamar hustling, Yeah, setting Kobe up, and then

481
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: the rest is history. It's it's it's perhaps the best

482
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Kobe play from Kobe's best season. And just for a

483
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: little context, Nash and the Sons were basically the best

484
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: team in the league that year, right or like they

485
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: their record was, you know, they were I think a

486
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: lot of people's pick heading into the playoffs to win

487
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: it all. I'm trying to think if there's another example

488
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: of a team that was the best team in the

489
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: league heading into the playoffs and then can't put it

490
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: together in the playoffs loses in the second round. But

491
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't think of it all right, But anyways,

492
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns at that time, that that's what happened to

493
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: the floor with Kobe. Nash thinks he's it's a good

494
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: idea to get your Kobe and the fun. Well, how

495
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: serious loves that and the fun Kobe got one looking

496
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: for great pot play has Kobe, you know temp mode.

497
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Kobe is generally always you hard for him to be

498
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: what an a polling after securing it on the ground,

499
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: finding Kobe and Kobe find the real I mean, can

500
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: you talking about joke off the trampoline? Up up man?

501
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: Just and just that hanging on the rim after just

502
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: an insult to injury. I think that is my my

503
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: favorite way to underline. It's just to just be like,

504
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: are you good down there? Can I come down now?

505
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: So okay, you're okay, okay, I will safely return to

506
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Earth and props the lamar, you know, Like then, as

507
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: I said, he busted his butt on applate dope for

508
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: it looks ball thread at the dime between two defenders,

509
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: like tremendous effort on his bar and um, what's another

510
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: dunk that you've been enjoying? But can we think of

511
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: another playoff postseason dunk. It's it's it's it's Shoaler Beasley.

512
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: That's an all timer. Recently biasy damn that is going

513
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: down in the boats. Yeah, yeah, I have a hard

514
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: time differentiating between recentcy bias and like whether the players

515
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: are just like getting better like this, I don't know.

516
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: This This play made me a believer that we might

517
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: be seeing some of the best things we've ever seen

518
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: in the history of the league. Fans have gotten empty

519
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: here in Memphis. They're down and opening around series job breaker,

520
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: And if there's anything that will get this crowd roaring,

521
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: that's like Grizzlies dam job morax. What do you think

522
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: it is about this? How that shoppic connection was actually

523
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: a blessing? Here? You seeing all these freeze frames was

524
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: ridiculous because it was like watching it with a broken

525
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: strobe lay on and actually kind of cool for you,

526
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: is it? Because it's so beautiful visually right, like just

527
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: just him dunking on Beasley, but also like his body shape,

528
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: having a ball so far back. I'm I'm like, I

529
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: think it like pickles every part of your brain like

530
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: that makes a dunk beautiful that I have trouble actually

531
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: quite putting my finger on it, because it has every

532
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: single dimension of a fantastic dunk. Yes, all great dunks

533
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: have a moment where the where where the dunk seems impossible,

534
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: where it's like falls it right here? How did he

535
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: take off from here or pulls it right here? He

536
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: was midair, the defended was right there. He dunked on

537
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: that guy like they all have a moment like that

538
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: where it's where it seems improbable but they pull it off. Ye.

539
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: That that's uh yeah. The Baron dunk the choppy connection

540
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: made me realize that he basically turns around to like

541
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: Hideo Nomo on him. Uh. And this one, it's he's

542
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: so far back when he cocks it back. It's ridiculous.

543
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: The circle. He's still at the circle when he cocks

544
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: it all the way back. Yeah. Again, I have trouble

545
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: describing what I'm seeing, like even like with the amount

546
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: of speed he had going into it, Like I feel

547
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: like he could have taken off from well behind the

548
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: free throw line and still made it to the rim,

549
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: like he like Beasley, gotten his way and he was

550
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: still like no, sorry, he's still gonna make it Like

551
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: it's just impossible. But oh it's It's both a how

552
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: did he do that? And why did he do that?

553
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Why did he jump far back and think he could

554
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: dunk it? And then yeah, he he ended up doing it.

555
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: So all right, should we take one more break and

556
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: then come back. We'll do a rapid fire close things out. Yep,

557
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: let's do it. We'll be ready and we're back and

558
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: it closed things out. I mean, I think we stumbled

559
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: upon a nice little game last episode Jack with our

560
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: rapid fire questions because it allows us to learn more

561
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: about our guests and also we get to learn something

562
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: like maybe where some of the best food is. But

563
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: shall we get into our rapid fire? So, dragon Fly,

564
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask you some questions. Don't think, just answer

565
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: and uh away we go. Start like the joker, Dragonfly,

566
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: what's your favorite dunk of all time? Favorite dunk of

567
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: all time? Um, pipping over you? And that's the best

568
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: dunk of the playoffs. Um, that's the best dunk of

569
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, my other three one of my favorites,

570
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: but that is objectively the best. Nim where their body

571
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: turns into like a human plus sign it like everyone's legs,

572
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: like everyone's like a right angle legged. I was just

573
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: looking at so it's so disrespectful, Like you know, he

574
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: dunked on that man, he stood over him. Then he

575
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: went and talked snacked the spike lee. He told him

576
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: to sit his bleep down. It was it was a moment. Uh, Dragonfly,

577
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: you are a aficionado of trash talk. Um, who is

578
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: your goat trash talker of all time? Number one? Trash

579
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Oh it might be m j Okay, it might be

580
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: mj um. You know, as as boring as that answer

581
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: might be. Like when I found out that dude would

582
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: saying Anita Baker while giving dudes to work, I was like, okay,

583
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: like what what gets hopping? Like dude's out there saying

584
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: and would step back like come on, man, Like I

585
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: would go home so angry. I would leave if you

586
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: did that to me. You can go back in time.

587
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: And this is a hypothetical, by the way, I'm not

588
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: telling you the truth here, Jeffie. Back in you can

589
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: go back in time and witness any single game live.

590
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Which game are you choosing? Game seven, two thousand and

591
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: sixteen finals, M yeah, oh, and it would be fun

592
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: to be there in particular, Um, I want to be

593
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I want to be right next to little Dickie right

594
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: when Brown almost sunked on on Draymond. Have y'all seen

595
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: that figure like Little Dicky is in the background all

596
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: that what's about to happen? Oh, no, Dickie. All side

597
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: little Dickie is is he cannot believe that Braun was

598
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: about to You know, if it's right that man like that,

599
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: what's kind of a basic about that picture is the

600
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: perspective looks like Little Dickie might also be holding the

601
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: basketball because Braun is holding in the front, and it

602
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: looks like little Dicky's also got the ball cocked back.

603
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: But he's really being like noah, uh yeah, dragonfly, who

604
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: is your personal goat greatest of all time? Oh, Lebron James.

605
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: And I say this as someone who watched Pique Jordan's

606
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I am. I am that

607
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: old to where I knew what I was watching when

608
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: I watched it. I watched that finals. I said, there's

609
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: no player I've ever seen in my life who could

610
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: have done what Lebron James did here. You know, he's

611
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: the you know, regardless of if you think he's the

612
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: go We've never seen a player this good for this long.

613
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: We've never seen a more complete player, like if that's

614
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: the worst phraise you can give Lebron and that that

615
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: makes it my go all right? And then next over

616
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: the next five years, are there one or two people

617
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: like faces of the league who you can see entering

618
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: that conversation currently in the league. Yes, yes, you know,

619
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm not beholding to my goat being the goat forever

620
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: like I said, Jordan was my goat until I feel

621
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: like bron surpassed them. It's gonna be, you know, ten

622
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: fifteen years down the line where someone will probably surpass Bronomy.

623
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: And the one who's in po position for that right

624
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: now is be honest, like, we'll see what you know,

625
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: what the young man accomplishes, but the rest of it

626
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: he has right now? Are you kidding me? You know

627
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: what I mean? Back to back m VPS Defensive Player

628
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: of the Year Finals mv being one of the greatest

629
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: finals of performances I've ever seen. I don't know if

630
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: he will be the goat, but the sky is the

631
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: limit for that young man for real. I've never heard

632
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: of him off to look him up. He sounds yeah, yeah, yeah,

633
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: google them. Google it's someone you When you think that

634
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: who you said, who's Johnny S? And I said Johnny?

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Speaker 1: All right? Yes, hey Gianni, I love Gianni's uh dragonfly.

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Speaker 1: You could put together the old Admit one on one

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Speaker 1: tournament where you can plug people out of different eras

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Speaker 1: in their primes. Whatever. Um, give me your ultimate matchup.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to sell out that pay per

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Speaker 1: view when you say I have X versus X one

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Speaker 1: on one tune in to night X versus sever That's good.

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Speaker 1: That's that is a really good question. Um, I feel

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Speaker 1: like k D is a lock for one of those

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Speaker 1: because I feel like, you you gotta go perimeter wing

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Speaker 1: win player, because the fact is their games are just prettier,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's prettier. I love bullyball,

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Speaker 1: back to the basket, you know, working the post basketball.

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Speaker 1: But as far as aesthetic wise, you know, bringing in

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Speaker 1: the viewers, perimeter wanne players, that's what you know. Fans love.

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Speaker 1: Katie will for sure get a lot for me and

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Speaker 1: maybe Kobe. I feel like Kobe vers Katie would probably

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Speaker 1: be a good matchup aesthetically wise. But Katie is such

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Speaker 1: a match you know, mismatch that he's beating whoever. I

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Speaker 1: probably rolled out there, you know what I mean, seven

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Speaker 1: foot get whatever jumper you wants, right, But Ums, as

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Speaker 1: far as you know, just beauty of the game, you know,

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Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing, I'd probably go Kobe Katie. So I want

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Speaker 1: I want to give an answer here because if it's

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Speaker 1: make it, take it like, I think that's that's a

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Speaker 1: great answer. If you know, you score and then you

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Speaker 1: go on to defense. I want to see Shack versus

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Speaker 1: Jordan's because I feel like Jordan's would find a way

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Speaker 1: to win even though Shack could back him down every

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Speaker 1: single time. Like I just I don't know, it would

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he solves that problem. That

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Speaker 1: game would be ugly everything like Jordan will work Shack

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Speaker 1: Shack would work. Jordan's would be, but it will be

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Speaker 1: entertaining though three NBA refs on the court. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh all right. And finally, uh two part question, greatest

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Speaker 1: basketball movie of all time and then best worst basketball

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Speaker 1: movie of all time? Oh, I think the best worst

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Speaker 1: basketball probably six Man. Sixth Man has literally artist sixth

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Speaker 1: Man has literally made me tear up before like I've

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Speaker 1: got I've got an older brother, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: who I'm close with and and seeing you know the

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Speaker 1: whole you know, Marlon Lose and his his older brother

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Speaker 1: that has brought me like has had the bottom lip

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Speaker 1: quiver in a few times. That's probably the best worst

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Speaker 1: basketball movie. Um. I saw that twice in the theater.

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Speaker 1: I was such anything any ways was in I was

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Speaker 1: watching like just from in Living Color on I was

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Speaker 1: just like loyal to the ways family, like I will

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Speaker 1: give you my money when I can, And that was

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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah yeah, best basketball movie. Um, Above the Rim,

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Speaker 1: we'll probably get my vote. You got tu Foc, you

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Speaker 1: got Wood hair Wood. Harris is a legitimately great that

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Speaker 1: he's one of our He's one of America's greatest actors.

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Speaker 1: He has been doing this for like four decades now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: above Them probably gets my vote. The game play in

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Speaker 1: Above the Rim is like pretty pretty good, right, Like

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Speaker 1: it's it's solid. Like when I was younger and watching movies,

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Speaker 1: it really bothered me how bad Michael J. Fox was

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Speaker 1: at basketball in Teen Wolf. Um. And so I think

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Speaker 1: I judged everything from that point forward based on like,

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Speaker 1: well that person actually looks like they know how to

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Speaker 1: play basketball. Um, so you know, getting Ray Allen and

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Speaker 1: he got game blue chips, I don't forget he got games.

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Speaker 1: I might have to say my vote that he got Game.

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Speaker 1: I might have the movie succeeding despite Ray Allen giving

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Speaker 1: us one of the worst performances in the history of cinema.

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Speaker 1: Is a testament unto itself. But it's an unobtrusive bad performance.

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Speaker 1: It's not he's not trying to do anything. He's just

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Speaker 1: like I'm I'm a great looking human who looks amazing

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Speaker 1: holding a basketball and doing things with it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Blue Chips doesn't get in. I love Blue Chips. I'm

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Speaker 1: in the background of Blue Chips. You are Patino's being interviewed.

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Speaker 1: You can see two blurs shooting hoops in the background.

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Speaker 1: I am one of those blurs. I am the blur

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Speaker 1: he Got Game. My friend is in the background of

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Speaker 1: both Blue Chips and He Got Game. I am in

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Speaker 1: the background of He Got Game. When Rick Petino is

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Speaker 1: being interviewed shooting around in the gym, oh right, right,

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Speaker 1: right when Okay, okay, I'm gonna look out for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now you can tell because I got kind of an

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Speaker 1: ugly shot, and like you can see that one of

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Speaker 1: the blurs looks like they have a hitch in their shot. Orthodox,

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I thought I thought I got style points

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Speaker 1: when I was developing my shot. Dragonfly, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for stopping by, Mad Boost. He's always always guess like

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Speaker 1: you are sure it was a blast, But let's appreciate

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Speaker 1: you having you. Man, Do you have a cool little

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Speaker 1: outro going on to or I mean, in the sense

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Speaker 1: that we ask our guests, where can people find more

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Speaker 1: of you? And hear from you and listen to you

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Speaker 1: for sure, you know, following me on Twitter, Dragonfly Jones. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the Voyu, the Jenkins and Jones Show with

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Speaker 1: my boys Legettro Jenkins, my Garter Bosio. So I'm out here.

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Speaker 1: I mean these spot streets, in these Twitter streets. Ask

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Speaker 1: about me, yeah, get it, get into his Twitter, Get

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Speaker 1: into Twitter. But tans your question. We don't have anything

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Speaker 1: that we do to end the show. And it's actually

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Speaker 1: kind of a problem. It's just we kind of like

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Speaker 1: trail off a little bit. Yeah, and then we're kind

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Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, that was a good episode.

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Speaker 1: That was I guess that was good. Right. Next week

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Speaker 1: I will see another installment of My Jack Jackott got

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Speaker 1: Mad Boost and Perfect Synchroniza. I forgot to say finding

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Speaker 1: Forrester my favorite basketball. All right, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: They ca the