WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Predicting the Future 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:10.280 The following. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.280 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:14.040 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:23.880 Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:30.680 Cowboys World Course at the Star in Prisco. Six seconds, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:31.960 got tis. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:39.680 Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker and 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:47.879 Kyle Yeoman's It's a draft week episode of Talking Cowboys, 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.560 presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.040 the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, let's spring Cowboy Joe back. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.160 In here right. It feels like a victory Tuesday, but 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.600 it is victory Tuesday. It's because we're back. We're back 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:04.160 in the building. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.800 We missed last week. I hope you guys enjoyed a 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.600 week off from the show. Specifically, Patrick's been working. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.560 I don't know what you've been doing. Where What did 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:12.760 you go? 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.160 You want to know why it's a victory Tuesday. It's 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.360 a victory Tuesday because the Seattle Racks Dallas Stars are 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:20.080 tied up to the two. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.120 I'm looking forward to watching that. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.960 I'm looking forward to seeing you guys in the second 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.120 round because it should your team make it to the 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.039 second round, and should my team make it to the 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.679 second round. Then both our teams collide in the second round, 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.679 and I'm gonna find a way to be at the 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.920 game here in Dallas. If the seattle cracking in dallastars 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.760 want to lose in person, I expect, you know what 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.360 I represent, maybe win or lose. I'm just gonna wrap 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.040 my out team or lose or lose, especially folks, definitely live, 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.320 definitely as long as that put drop, there's a chance 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.360 that we might win. Hashtag Texas Hockey. It's why they 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.160 play the game. That's right there. We go play because 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.080 what both our cities are in the game. All right, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:56.520 they're both in the tournament. You know what I'm saying, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.160 both tied up. Y'all got a chance for redemption tonight. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.800 I think we if that happens, Jersey bet. Yeah, that's 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:03.400 what I'm saying. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.400 I think there needs to be a bet somewhere in there. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.880 I think there needs to be something. Maybe we'll all 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.359 go to the game together. I go to the car 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:09.799 right now. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.440 Yes, I will absolutely love to go through the Kraken 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.200 to on the path to Hoiston. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.320 I hope Lord Stanley's I hope we both make it. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.920 Yeah, yeah, if that happens, it's turning into talking hockey 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:24.400 next week. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.880 Sorry, guys, Yeah, we talk Yeah, we'll talk about it. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.560 Oh yeah, there is a draft. There's a draft. So 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:32.440 that's the big thing. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.560 I mean, we go in the news and notes, and 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.640 I mean all of the news and pretty much all 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:37.960 of the. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.160 Notes have to do with the NFL Draft. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.200 Now, there are a couple of sprinkled things in there, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.320 but of course we had the Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.480 and Mike McCarthy press conference, the pre draft presser yesterday. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.200 A couple of nuggets came out of that. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.480 Patrick something to look at whenever you're going into draft 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.400 prep this weekend. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.520 Indeed, and the thing to realize or remember is you 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:05.840 heard this first on Talking Cowboys that we three anticipate 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.519 that the Cowboys would be interested in potentially trading down 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.320 out of number twenty six, and Jerry Jones all but 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.040 confirmed that those discussions have begun in the front office, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.760 and Stephen Jones chimes in and says, hey, don't rule 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.480 out potentially moving up, but it felt as if there 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.640 would have to be a particular player in mind to 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.600 move up, and we know who that player would be. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.480 It will probably be b John Robinson, now there are 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.880 some others. There are a couple others that are theah, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.800 the couple other names that if they came close to 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.160 twenty six, Cowboys probably wouldn't risk waiting until they got 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.920 to twenty six to see if they were there. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.720 So they probably jump a couple of spots. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.560 But obviously the headline name everybody wants to know about 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.960 is b Jeon Robinson. But I think that again, I 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.360 think b Jhon Robinson is going top ten, most definitely 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.680 top fifteen. Stranger things have happened, Hello, Sadarian Lamb. That said, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.200 if the odds go as they should, which is Bjon 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.080 is gone, Cowboys could potentially move down get another pick. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.840 In Cayle, you've done all of the homework. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.880 You know this is a draft where you would love 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.600 to have an additional pick, no doubt, because it's so thick. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.640 It's so thicky for. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.800 Round two to let through round five as far as 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.080 what you can get, So the Cowboys. That's going to 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.840 be the headliner from the biggest takeaway from yesterday's press 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.000 conference is that the Cowboys are open to moving down, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.720 which is more likely than moving up, but they haven't 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:27.960 ruled out potentially moving up. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.239 Yeah, I don't think they are stuck at twenty six. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.680 It is the biggest thing out of yesterday's press conference 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.640 because it was early and it was often throughout the 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.960 presser that they talked about the movement potential, whether that 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.960 go down, stack up a couple picks, or use a 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.520 couple picks and go up and get a guy that 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.680 you were really really confident in. I think you need 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:51.120 to add Darnell Right, the offensive tackle offensive guardflex from Tennessee. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.840 I think he would be a trade up target if 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.240 they decided to maybe move up into the late teens, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.080 he would probably be there too, along with Bijan and 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.000 uh That that's something to keep an eye on moving 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.919 into the weekend. I thought some of the non draft 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.159 storylines were kind of interesting as well, because Josh Baul 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:11.760 kind of came up in the. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.360 Middle of this one. Josha in the middle of it. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:20.200 He started taking some some off season work at left guard, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.800 and the Cowboys are interested to see what they can 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.960 potentially get from him in that position, but they haven't 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.320 completely assigned him to that full time. It's more of 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.640 a flex role that they're basically filling it out. It's 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.880 not a as much of a direct transfer as like 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.839 Isaac Alocoon would be a direct transfer to the opposite 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.520 side of the ball, and he's going to be full 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:44.760 time defensive line. But Josh Ball, from my money, didn't 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.920 necessarily quit himself well when given the opportunity last season, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.960 and the Cowboys are now looking at that and saying, okay, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.400 well we need some help on the interior. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:53.040 What can you do? 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.480 But and I tweeted this yesterday, that doesn't preclude them 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.800 from getting a Tier one guy at left guard if 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.840 one false to them. So if you're talking about whether 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.760 it be you know right or Cyrus Torrance, or if 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.120 it's you know, a V out of TCU, if one 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.520 of those guys are available at twenty six, it doesn't 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.159 matter if Josh Ball is taking who reps at left guarded, 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.640 They're going to grab one of those guys. They also 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.200 made three transactions on yesterday, and I know some people 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.280 are wondering if they kind of hints at what direction 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.680 they're going. I don't know that it necessarily does, but 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.279 maybe it necessarily does not. So they moved on from 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.080 Ian Bunting the tight end. They moved on from Davonte 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.200 Bond at linebacker, and they moved on from Isaac Taylor 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:38.840 Stewart the defensive back. All three released with failed physical designations. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.400 So I know some are seeing that the decision to 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.720 wave Bunting and they're saying, oh, well, it's definitely going 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.080 to be tied in. Not necessarily. I don't think that 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.919 decision is because you couldn't really factor Bunting into the 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.000 equation anyway. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:54.000 Now, nothing against Ian Bunting, Isaac Taylor Stewart, and Davonte Bond, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.359 but those aren't necessarily needle movers in each of those positions. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.719 Now, I will say this when it comes to Devonte Bond, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.520 when we were having the linebacker conversation, and we said, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.520 you know what you get from LVE, and you know 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.520 what you're probably about to get from the Moon Clark, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.560 which could be a breakout season as early as year 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.760 two would be great, But behind the Moon Clark, you 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.679 have no clue what you're getting. And that was already 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.000 a group behind Clark and LVE that were basically just 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.840 practice squad guys hoping to get some actual reps. And 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.400 now you just lost one of your practice squad guys, 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.720 so you need that much more help at linebacker, not 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.760 saying that means you go linebacker in round one, But 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.040 it does mean that you're going to draft yourself a linebacker. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.280 Because of that, Isaiah, I mean the year, the year one, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.040 the year two jump has been talked about quite often 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.320 since Mike McCarthy got here in Dallas, because he. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.200 Even said it yesterday. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.040 Yours, two, three, and four are the crucial components of 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.320 your football team to where you grow, he said yesterday. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.120 You don't grow as much through the draft. You grow 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.800 through the guys that are already here. And they're bringing 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.800 back a couple guys at linebacker. But how imperative is 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.400 it to have those those guys like a Damone Clark 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.680 step up and fill that hole and then supplement that 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.360 and sprinkle in some talent from the draft. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.040 Yeah, you gotta do a little little Salt Bay. 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.760 You gotta sprinkle a little extra in there, little e 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.360 forty sprinkle me sprinkle So for some of y'all West Christis. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.600 Man, you need those guys to step up and play it. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.400 Yeah, tell me where to go. You need to go 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.080 get a linebacker. That's where you need to go. Get 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.080 a linebacker, because even though you know what you're gonna 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.840 get out of Vanderresher, Damon Clark, Michael Parsons would drop 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.520 back there occasionally, but we know that's not his living quarters. Okay, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.880 that's his second residence at this point, So you need 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.439 to be able to go get a guy who lives there. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.880 You need a guy who can make an impact. Obviously, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.480 the draft will will show us what is available there. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.120 I'm hoping that they can go get a guy, hopefully 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.520 around the third round or so, that can fulfill that role. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.800 If they can't, there are still guys sitting at the 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.360 crib that are available as well. So and let's not 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.360 forget that just because you're drafting rookies doesn't mean that 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.800 guys are not on the trading block. So there's plenty 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.840 of opportunity within these this coming weekend to fulfill majority 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.960 of the roles that need to be touched on at 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.400 that linebacker position. And that's something Stephen Jones touched on 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.920 yesterday and the press conference is that keep in mind 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.000 there's still work that gets done after the draft, So 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.680 you want to stay true to your board and try 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.400 to get the best draft class possible, But coming out 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.760 of draft weekend, that doesn't mean the work is done. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.280 Look at Jonathan Hankins, you didn't get him until October, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.720 all right. Look at Anthony Barr, you didn't get him 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.680 until a training cap. So they're contributors and what we 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.880 like to call him mercenaries. They are mercenaries who are 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.200 still going to be out there after the draft. And 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.640 those mercenaries, a lot of them, especially when you're talking 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.720 about the higher profile ones that remain in free agency 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.600 right now, they're sitting back and on purpose, they're waiting 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.079 to see what teams still have a particular need, like 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.080 at linebacker for example, before they choose who to sign with, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.840 because that dictates the value and the market and what 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.040 kind of bag they can get. So there's still some 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.559 chest to be played after this weekend. But it'll be 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:56.080 fun to watch what the Cowboys do come Thursday, Friday 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.360 than Saturday, but also Sunday, which is undrafted free agency. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.480 They always have started to do very well in that 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:03.439 capacity as well. 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:04.640 Hillo Peyton Hindershot. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.640 Yeah, And that's one thing that I think the Cowboys 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.360 have had an advantage on the rest of the league 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.760 is that Will McClay does not stop at pick two 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:17.000 fifty nine. He stops at player four hundred and fifty. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.360 I mean he does everything he can to bring in 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.120 the best talent. I mean a couple of the guys 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.000 that you just mentioned that were released have been on 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.320 the roster the last couple of years, and we're all 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.800 three of those undrafted free agents, so they've I mean 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:29.960 Terrence Steele, you could. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.280 Throw him into the conversation as an undrafted free agent. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.400 They have hit that that pool of players very well 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.439 over the last couple of years, and in doing so, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.600 it's built some of the talent and filled in some 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:41.240 of those holes. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:45.160 But what is a position Dallas cannot. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.560 Afford to leave the draft without what what would be 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.720 your position overall? 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.360 I want to say, we've already talked about this specifically, 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.640 but let's go ahead and hit it again. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.000 Those might have missed it. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.280 Let's go down the line. You have to get offensive guard, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.960 got it. You have to get a linebacker. You have 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.360 to get a tight end who has the capability of blocking. Okay, 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.240 you have to get a Yeah, you have to get 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.760 an interior defensive lineman. Right, and I feel like you 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:18.520 have to get another cornerback. Okay, Okay, explain Yeah, I'm 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:19.800 thinking about the cornerback thing. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.760 So expound on the cornerback things. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.520 The cornerbacks that you have drafted of late have not 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.760 made the contributions that you were hoping. You can say 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:35.320 the name, yeah, yeah, Kelvin Joseph has I am not 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.560 on the team of retaining Kelvin Joseph. Okay, I haven't been. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.520 I mean no disrespect to images from what I've seen 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.400 on the field. It's just what I've seen on film watch, Okay, 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.000 what I've seen on film and things outside of that 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.439 as well. I don't see the value there aside from 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.480 the fact that you drafted him high. It's probably the 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.360 reason why I'm not a general manager is because I 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.200 will cut bait in a heartbeat, Okay, once I realized 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.120 that it's not a fit. So I think that they 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.280 need to go another direct in that regard or or 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.079 and find somebody who's going to be able to provide 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.320 adequate value for that that type of draft pick or 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.720 just that position alone. You don't get a lot of 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.400 guys at every position, and that's what that's what people 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.120 have to understand. You don't just get a plethora of 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.520 guys right at the cornerback position. You're gonna rock with 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.599 six guys right you're gonna rock with you know, for 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.360 four safeties. Okay, you're that's that's that's a fifth of 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.320 your team, damn near you know what I'm saying. That's 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:25.880 almost a fifth of your team already. Right now you're 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.840 talking about office on line. So you got to understand 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.400 that every guy who's on your roster at that any 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.000 particular position has to be able to fulfill their role. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.800 And some guys you have the you have the pleasure 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.040 and the ability to be able to sit back and 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.359 watch them develop. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:41.040 And the other guys you don't. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.480 Other guys you're doing depending on what you have in 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.200 front of them, right, So everybody does not get the 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.040 same uh beandwi. Everybody does not get the same you know, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.400 amount of rope, you know, depending on your draft status, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.640 and depending on how many guys are in front of you, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.640 depending on the health of the guys in front of you. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.080 Tirre in, right, you got guys like that. So you 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.199 have to get guys that are ready to come in play. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:01.559 I don't care if they're taking it in the first round. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.040 I don't care if they're taking it in the fifth 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.719 or sixth round. They got to come in and they 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.400 have to fulfill a role I feel like and I'll 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.840 get to the cornerback in a second. To answer your question, Kyle, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.600 I feel like you have to. And I'm right there 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.880 with Isaiah and have always been in this regard. You 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.520 got to get an interior lineman I e left guard, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.760 and you got to get another tight end. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.160 And I it. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:26.000 Boggles my mind continuously to see some fans tell me 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.760 and just say out loud that the Cowboys don't need 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.840 a tight end. I don't know for the life of 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:35.200 me what you're actually analyzing here, because yes, we are 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.559 all three very big proponents of the Jake Ferguson and 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:39.680 pay your Hindershot Combo. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:40.960 We are proponents of it. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.800 Which is why we all said, Hey, if don't show 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.720 to walk, so what right? So what you're good at 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.679 one and two or one A, one B, however you 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.360 want to look it, look for two and three or 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.160 two and three but or two. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.600 Man, see what I'm saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:54.920 But what you don't have. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.360 We talked about the release of Van Bunching, which wasn't 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.800 a contributor. He wasn't a contributor. You saw McEwan Seol 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.200 McEwen makes some contributions last season, but didn't necessarily become 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.559 that impact guy. You got Seth Green on the practice squad. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.200 You don't necessarily know what you're getting there. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.559 You know he was signed a former player out of Houston. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.080 But outside of your top two guys right now, you 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.840 should be nervous at the tight end position. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.040 So yes, you do need another impact guy. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.240 And if that guy happens to be a road greater 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.840 as a blocker as well, who can also when called upon, 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.240 stretch the field, he can out muscle guys. I'm talking 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.680 about a particular guy in Darnell, but there are also guys. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.000 Mayor is one and Laporta is one and that you know, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.640 spoke with Lounda Wells and the Portal was one of 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.080 the names that he put out there as well, along 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.080 with Darnelle, Washington, Mayor some of these other guys that 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.400 he's interested in. But yes, tight end, you gotta address 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.560 tight ends. So those two have to be done interio 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:51.960 offensive line and tight end. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.160 Now, when we get the cornerback. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.200 On linebacker, you got to have lone acker and we 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.600 already said it a hundred times, you gotta have linebacker cornerback. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.000 Here's where I struggle. I feel like it should be 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.680 addressed in the draft. I don't know that it's a 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.160 need must have. Yeah, I don't know that it's a 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.880 must have because of stuff on Gilmore, not only stuff 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.120 on Gilmore, not only because you got Trevon Diggs and 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.800 the way the Cowboys just played it with Ceedee Lamb 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.000 by exercising his fifth year option. If that deal doesn't 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.880 come to fruition quickly, and they want it to, but 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.600 if it doesn't, then you still have a franchise tag 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.600 available to hit Trevon Diggs with in twenty twenty four. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.080 So you're not worried just yet about losing Digs. So 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.360 you got Digs, you got Gilmore, and you love what 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.920 you saw as far as trending forward on this, Sean right, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.880 But yeah, I'm just back boundary, got you right? 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.040 So Sean Wright, he's trending. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.200 There Israel mcuamou when he was given the shot at 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.080 corner back on the edge. You love there, But he's 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.440 also a big slot now. Transitioning to the slot conversation 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.040 to Ron Bland, Jordan Lewis, who expects to be healthy 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.040 this season coming back from that list Frank Andrew injury, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.600 I think that you are. I'm not going to say 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.280 all set because injuries happening. I just talked about Jordan Lewis. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.720 You're not all set, because you're never really all set. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.280 But I think that cornerback is a position where if 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:16.600 you're in round four, for example, and there's a talented 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.800 tight end and you haven't addressed tight end just yet, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.120 which I hope you have, but if you have it 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.840 or linebacker, you take one of those and you say, well, 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.400 we'll get the cornerback in the fifth and I'm fine. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.440 If you get the cornerback in the fifth round, I'm 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.800 completely fine. That's it's a developmental player, right unless their 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.960 name is Deron Blant, But I'm completely fine with that. 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.640 I would even say I'm fine with taking a cornerback 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.560 in the sixth. I wouldn't wait until the seventh to 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.240 do it, but if you took it in the sixth, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.080 I would be comfortable with that. Because of the current 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:46.120 roster accord, I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.400 with you. I believe that once you get around the 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.080 fourth round, I think they need to start looking towards 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.080 cornerback and The reason why I say that is because 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.160 you need that room to be as competitive as can be. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:55.360 Absolutely, you have. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.280 Guys that are still developing, You have guys that are 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.520 showing some promise. But the reality is in this league, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.520 this is a past in league now, this is the past. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.240 You think steph On Gilmore makes that. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.520 I think steph On Yeah, But he's not the youngest 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.800 whip a snapper around either. He's not so so you 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.120 know what I'm saying. So, like I try to, when 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.080 I'm thinking about these things, I'm thinking about the what ifs, 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:13.600 the what if scenarios. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.040 Right, what if steph. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.560 On Gilmore his age shows up and something happens, right, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.760 he tweets something? Okay, now you're down to who that's 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.000 the worst case? That's worse get in this case scenario? Right, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.560 So you can't put all your eggs in that basket. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.560 Everybody's talking about Jay lou Well, guess what I noticed 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:26.720 a little thing about. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.359 A Liz frank injury? Do you a little bit? 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.959 You and I and I and I hope and I 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.720 pray that he comes back ready to rock and roll. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.120 But my experience is that he's gonna have some things 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.280 to deal with on the way back from that injury. Okay, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.879 So you I don't expect him to come back and 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.480 be the same guy that we've always known him to be. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.520 That's gonna take some time. If if it's at. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.439 The level that I in the experience that I had, Okay, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:49.520 that was ten years ago. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.680 Okay, so I get it. However I don't. I don't. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.879 I'm not gonna put that responsibility on I'm on hope, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:56.560 but I'm not gonna put that responsibility. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.560 And so I'm gonna act as if something's going to 0:17:58.560 --> 0:17:59.199 happen to Gilmore. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.120 I'm gonna act as if Jay Lou is not going 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.680