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Speaker 1: Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker and

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Speaker 2: Kyle Yeoman's It's a draft week episode of Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, let's spring Cowboy Joe back.

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Speaker 1: In here right. It feels like a victory Tuesday, but

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Speaker 1: it is victory Tuesday. It's because we're back. We're back

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Speaker 1: in the building.

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Speaker 2: We missed last week. I hope you guys enjoyed a

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Speaker 2: week off from the show. Specifically, Patrick's been working.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you've been doing. Where What did

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Speaker 1: you go?

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Speaker 3: You want to know why it's a victory Tuesday. It's

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Speaker 3: a victory Tuesday because the Seattle Racks Dallas Stars are

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Speaker 3: tied up to the two.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching that.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing you guys in the second

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Speaker 3: round because it should your team make it to the

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Speaker 3: second round, and should my team make it to the

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Speaker 3: second round. Then both our teams collide in the second round,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna find a way to be at the

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Speaker 3: game here in Dallas. If the seattle cracking in dallastars

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Speaker 3: want to lose in person, I expect, you know what

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Speaker 3: I represent, maybe win or lose. I'm just gonna wrap

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Speaker 3: my out team or lose or lose, especially folks, definitely live,

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Speaker 3: definitely as long as that put drop, there's a chance

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Speaker 3: that we might win. Hashtag Texas Hockey. It's why they

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Speaker 3: play the game. That's right there. We go play because

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Speaker 3: what both our cities are in the game. All right,

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Speaker 3: they're both in the tournament. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: both tied up. Y'all got a chance for redemption tonight.

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Speaker 1: I think we if that happens, Jersey bet. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think there needs to be a bet somewhere in there.

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Speaker 2: I think there needs to be something. Maybe we'll all

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Speaker 2: go to the game together. I go to the car

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I will absolutely love to go through the Kraken

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Speaker 3: to on the path to Hoiston.

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Speaker 1: I hope Lord Stanley's I hope we both make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if that happens, it's turning into talking hockey

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, Yeah, we talk Yeah, we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there is a draft. There's a draft. So

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Speaker 1: that's the big thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we go in the news and notes, and

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Speaker 2: I mean all of the news and pretty much all

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 1: Notes have to do with the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Now, there are a couple of sprinkled things in there,

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Speaker 2: but of course we had the Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones

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Speaker 2: and Mike McCarthy press conference, the pre draft presser yesterday.

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Speaker 1: A couple of nuggets came out of that.

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Speaker 2: Patrick something to look at whenever you're going into draft

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Speaker 3: Indeed, and the thing to realize or remember is you

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Speaker 3: heard this first on Talking Cowboys that we three anticipate

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Speaker 3: that the Cowboys would be interested in potentially trading down

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Speaker 3: out of number twenty six, and Jerry Jones all but

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Speaker 3: confirmed that those discussions have begun in the front office,

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Speaker 3: and Stephen Jones chimes in and says, hey, don't rule

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Speaker 1: So they probably jump a couple of spots.

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Speaker 1: In Cayle, you've done all of the homework.

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Speaker 3: You know this is a draft where you would love

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they are stuck at twenty six.

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Speaker 2: It is the biggest thing out of yesterday's press conference

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Speaker 3: Now, I will say this when it comes to Devonte Bond,

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Speaker 3: so you need that much more help at linebacker, not

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Speaker 2: Because of that, Isaiah, I mean the year, the year one,

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Speaker 2: the year two jump has been talked about quite often

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Speaker 2: since Mike McCarthy got here in Dallas, because he.

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Speaker 1: Even said it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yours, two, three, and four are the crucial components of

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Speaker 2: You don't grow as much through the draft. You grow

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta do a little little Salt Bay.

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Speaker 1: Man, you need those guys to step up and play it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me where to go. You need to go

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Speaker 3: Look at Jonathan Hankins, you didn't get him until October,

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Speaker 3: about the higher profile ones that remain in free agency

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Speaker 3: right now, they're sitting back and on purpose, they're waiting

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Speaker 3: They always have started to do very well in that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one thing that I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Those might have missed it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go down the line. You have to get offensive guard,

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Speaker 3: The cornerbacks that you have drafted of late have not

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Speaker 3: I feel like you have to. And I'm right there

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Speaker 3: Boggles my mind continuously to see some fans tell me

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Speaker 3: all three very big proponents of the Jake Ferguson and

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Speaker 1: We are proponents of it.

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Speaker 3: Which is why we all said, Hey, if don't show

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Speaker 1: Man, see what I'm saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the release of Van Bunching, which wasn't

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Speaker 3: McEwen makes some contributions last season, but didn't necessarily become

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Speaker 1: You know he was signed a former player out of Houston.

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Speaker 3: But outside of your top two guys right now, you

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Speaker 1: So yes, you do need another impact guy.

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Speaker 3: And if that guy happens to be a road greater

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Speaker 3: So you're not worried just yet about losing Digs. So

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you have.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about Jay lou Well, guess what I noticed

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Speaker 3: There's still things that I need to see from them.

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Speaker 2: They may not get a quarterback. They said it earlier

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Speaker 1: I know it's not I know everything's on the table.

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Speaker 3: But like and everybody else, they don't, they don't needed,

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Speaker 3: but the value is there. I agree, And you know what,

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Speaker 3: and that's why my philosophy, my draft philosophy.

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Speaker 1: Is different.

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Speaker 3: The value was insane, Yeah, exactly. My philosophy is totally

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Speaker 3: different than a lot of other people's. Right, I'm willing

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Speaker 3: to bypass on some talent to address a need.

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Speaker 1: You are more needs based.

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Speaker 3: Needs based, because I'm trying to fulfill a roster, and

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Speaker 3: they you know what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: fulfill a roster.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to feel as much talent as I

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Speaker 3: can and then figure out the holes later.

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Speaker 1: That's not my philosophy. That's not mine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say, now there's some crazy value

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Speaker 3: right there. I'm not gonna blow by it, right by

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Speaker 3: it and be like, no, I need to get this position.

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying if it's if it's close to like, hey,

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Speaker 3: this due is a beast, but guess what, this dude's

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Speaker 3: pretty dark one good too, and he feels the need

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Speaker 3: that we have. I'm going to go with the need

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Speaker 3: that we have because guess what, now, holistically, my team

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Speaker 3: is better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and outside of last year, I think they've done that.

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Speaker 2: I think, and you could even argue in the first

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Speaker 2: two rounds they've done that almost every year. Where last

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Speaker 2: year they went need based in the first round and

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Speaker 2: went and grabbed the Tyler Smith worked out great. Then

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Speaker 2: you went with a value based so you go grab

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Speaker 2: a Sam Williams in the second round. Year prior to that,

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Speaker 2: you grab Michael Parsons. That was a need based pick.

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Speaker 2: Where'd you'd go in the second round You went with

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Speaker 2: a need based pick there as well.

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Speaker 1: With Kelvin Joseph.

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Speaker 2: So things have lined up in the past and where

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Speaker 2: they have drafted for need.

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Speaker 1: But then you go to Ceedee Lamb and you go

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Speaker 1: to Trayvon Diggs exactly. Both of those were value picks.

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Speaker 3: So that's just that's craziness, right, that's just craziness falling

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: He's just like, Okay, well, I thank you, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: just say thank you.

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Speaker 3: I just operate on the sliding scale, and I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't think that anyone should operate all the way

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Speaker 3: needs based or all the way BPA, because either way

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Speaker 3: you're going to put yourself in a best spot sooner

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Speaker 3: or later, you're gonna put yourself in the best spot.

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Speaker 3: So you go in and you understand what your needs are,

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Speaker 3: but you build the board based on the best player available,

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Speaker 3: and then you say, okay, well, how does this tie

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Speaker 3: into our needs? And then that's the robust conversation, and

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Speaker 3: that's your draft plan going in. Of course, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to pivot. You're gonna have to adapt because this

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Speaker 3: guy's gonna fall. This guy's not gonna fall. What you're

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Speaker 3: gonna do on the fly, But for the most part,

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Speaker 3: you stay true to your board. And for me, the

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Speaker 3: board says that you should already have it set up

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Speaker 3: as be more BPA based than needs based, because you're

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Speaker 3: going to end up addressing your needs. If you play

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Speaker 3: the weekend as it should be played, If you play

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Speaker 3: the draft weekend as it should be played, you're inherently

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Speaker 3: probably going to address your needs. But you have to

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Speaker 3: keep an eye on those, like I said, those insane

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Speaker 3: value picks where it's like, okay, right, can't pass an

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Speaker 3: example running back, that's a perfect example. I believe Tony

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Speaker 3: Polit's going to be perfectly fine. I believe the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: are going to get a deal done with Tony Pollitt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you when it got Rojo. I believe in Malik Davis.

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Speaker 3: If be John Robinson is there at nineteen, If he's

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Speaker 3: still on the clock at nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I believe you better be on the damn phone. Right.

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Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: Like, you don't need a running trust me, there's third

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Speaker 3: But guess what if I see it, Papo if off,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get what I'm saying, same thing, same

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Speaker 3: thing I said on twity yesterday. Okay, cowboys don't need

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Speaker 3: a running back, but I'm also not stupid.

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Speaker 2: Along those same lines, I've got a couple of names

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Speaker 2: I want to hit. I want you to grade the

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Speaker 2: pick before the pick, and we're going to give you

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Speaker 2: some names at twenty six that have been rumored for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys over these last few weeks. I want you

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Speaker 2: to give me an a through F grade. How did

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Speaker 2: they do if this ends up being the pick on

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Speaker 2: twenty six, I'll tell you that whenever we come back

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, the only thing that would

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Speaker 1: tell you what, I go with the gravy on the fries.

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Speaker 3: Gravy on the fries, and ladies and gentlemen, if you've

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Speaker 1: Okay, make that happen.

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Speaker 3: You realize that we've sat here and talked about Wilderberger

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Speaker 1: At mouth is water? And I'm just oh, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: I've got some Namer. You see Beamer forgot look at

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Speaker 1: that shirt fishing?

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Speaker 1: That is a great shirt. I love that shirt.

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Speaker 2: All right, I got some names, and we're gonna stick

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Speaker 2: with the orange theme first. Okay, how about I've got

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Speaker 2: a couple of orange colleges that have had some players

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Speaker 2: rumored to the Cowboys twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I want you to give me an a through F grade.

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Speaker 1: Who's volunteering for this one.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with uh, I'll start with Darnell right from Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: But this is a trade up scenario. So you give

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Speaker 2: up your third round pick to go and do it,

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Speaker 2: what would you grade the pick? Darnell Right, offensive tackle,

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Speaker 2: offensive guard flex, destroyed Alabama on a couple of occasions,

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Speaker 2: had fantastic film at right tackle, where he looked far

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Speaker 2: more comfortable than he did at left tackle, but he

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Speaker 2: did play both at Tennessee, and he does have some

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Speaker 2: inside flex.

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Speaker 1: What would you grade the pick?

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Speaker 2: If you give up your third rounder to go and

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Speaker 2: get Darnel right and sure up things on the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: he would be your Day one starter at left guard.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah, You know, I don't like these guys flip flopping, man,

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Speaker 3: but they don't have t steel under contract beyond this

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Speaker 3: yes today, right.

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Speaker 1: So beyond this year? Yeah, that's one. Yeah, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: give up a fourth I could.

654
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Speaker 2: So what would your grade be if you gave up

655
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: a third Because that's kind of what it's going to

656
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: have to take. You had to go up to sixteen

657
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 2: or fifteen to get him and jump in front, You

658
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: had to jump in front of Washington.

659
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: It would take your third round pick. I give it

660
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: a B B. Okay, so you feel pretty good about it.

661
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: I feel good it's gonna that three is gonna hurt,

662
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: hurt you, Yeah, but you feel that you feel a

663
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: big void.

664
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Well, what would happen?

665
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: Just curiosity if it was at twenty six, If if

666
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: darnel Wright fell to twenty six tails, booty button nuked a.

667
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: A plus absolutely a plus plus booty button Nugga will.

668
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: Streak Absolutely there you go streaking across to That's why

669
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: I threw in the trade up because I don't expect

670
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: that to happen.

671
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he will be there. Okay, so you're

672
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: giving up a third rounder, giving up a third where'd

673
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: you move to get him to fifteen.

674
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 6: B?

675
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Okay b because that third round is gonna stamp. Oh

676
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: my god. Get to the end of day two and you're.

677
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: Just sitting less now keepingspects you could you could flip

678
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: it and not flip this particular pick, but you could

679
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: work to get that pick back. It might cost you

680
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: something from twenty twenty four to get that third rounder

681
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three backs.

682
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: So that's that on the table.

683
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: But that notwithstanding yet that third round of hurts. But uh,

684
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: and another reason it's not an A is because he's

685
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: not plug and play at left guard. He'd be more

686
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: plug and play at right tackle, but.

687
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: I would plug and play him at left guard and

688
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: be okay with it.

689
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Let me let me be more clear. He's not nearly

690
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: as plugging, plug and play as a torrent So and

691
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: a Veila would be at left guard because you would

692
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: because you need him there. So, but he does give

693
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: you the the added insurance of should something go awry

694
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: in the contract negotiating contract negotiation with Terrence Steele, then

695
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: you have your definitive right tackle as well.

696
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd feel good about it. It would sting.

697
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: Mightily, but yeahs with you, No, I doubt it, No, no, no,

698
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: And also you think about it this way to.

699
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Keep right left guard and if there you go.

700
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if something goes wrong with T. Steele, then the

701
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: tackles of your future are Tyler Smith at left tackle.

702
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: I would ride with. That's why I give it a B. Yeah,

703
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: and then we're still keeping an eye on met with

704
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Let's go as well.

705
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: Just a couple of the third round picks that you've

706
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: had the last couple of years, Jalen Tolbert.

707
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Last year, the year before, you had.

708
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Multiple third round picks, so said gizu A, Chauncey Golsten

709
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: and Nashawan.

710
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: Riot, and you saw what Osa did last season, and

711
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: you see where Chauncey is trending, and nay Shawn still

712
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: has some development to go, but he did help kind

713
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: of save you from falling into a black hole, ye

714
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: opposite Trevon Diggs. So yeah, that third rounder, I mean, well,

715
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: the jury is still out on what'll happened with Jalen Tolbert,

716
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: but that third round is going to hurt. But given

717
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: the value, I'm fine with it because I would argue

718
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: that right as a top ten picks.

719
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: So if he's if he's available at fifteen, then you

720
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: still go get him great value. Yeah, I would give it.

721
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I'd give it an a minus.

722
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: If they went up and did something like that, go

723
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: and grab Darnell right, I would still even as much

724
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: as it would hurt. And on the Draft show, when

725
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: we're sitting here and we're doing our wall to wall coverage,

726
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to be upset whenever we're not picking in

727
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: the third round, but I will be happy knowing that

728
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: our offensive line has been shirt up for the future.

729
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Nice and snuggled up against. Yeah.

730
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: So from the Waburger orange that Isaiah has on his shirt,

731
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: we go to a little burnt Orange. B Jean Robinson

732
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: no trade up needed. He falls to twenty six. What

733
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: would your grade of the pick bee B Jean Robinson.

734
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: We'll let Pat start on this one, hey plus, no

735
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: trade up needed, okay? B. John Robinson falls at twenty

736
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: six Ceedee Lamb situation.

737
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: It's the Ceedee lamp situation to the max. And I

738
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: don't think they would trade up to go get Bijeon.

739
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't have that feeling. What I

740
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: have the feeling of, though, is if he is there,

741
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: they're going to run that cart in before they get you.

742
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely blink.

743
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: This is top ten talent, one of the best athletes,

744
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: arguably the best athlete in the draft.

745
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: If he's there at twenty six.

746
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: Just and this is coming from a person who again

747
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: and I'll lead the running backs matter train, but I

748
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: also understand that given the Cowboys current set up at

749
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: running back, you don't need a running back. So I'm

750
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: looking in not late rounds, but late than the first round.

751
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: So we'll see what Jamiir Gibbs Golds, would you talk

752
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: about Devin a Chain for example, and some of those

753
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: other guys that you could Tony Pollard your way into

754
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: in the third and fourth round or something like that.

755
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with that. That being said, I'm also

756
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: not stupid.

757
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: So if B John Robinson is there at twenty six,

758
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: you make the pick and you figure the rest out,

759
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: and it's an A plus for me because you're gonna

760
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: you're getting five years of.

761
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Control, yep, for B.

762
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: John Robinson before you have to really worry about a

763
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: second contract.

764
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: And maybe you, you know, give him a second one,

765
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe you don't, doesn't matter.

766
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: The window of opportunity to win the super Bowl in

767
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: that five year span is just wide open, and you

768
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: just blow it wide open, right, So a plus if

769
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: that happens.

770
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: I'd give it an A as well. Isaiah, what are

771
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: you thinking? Is a Vila available? Yes?

772
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Of course I don't think he's He may be available

773
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: at fifty eight. I'm not very high. I like Steve Avila,

774
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: but I'm not a massive proponent of taking him at

775
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: twenty six.

776
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: I actually i'm not.

777
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm a against taking him at twenty who whoa, whoa

778
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: whoa I am. I would rather have Torrents easy money.

779
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: Give me Torrance over Abby Lah every day, and.

780
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: It's not even close. In a note take, is that

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: it's not.

782
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: It's not an you can see my top one hundred later.

783
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: It's not. It's just do what a burger take.

784
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: I've heard people say he's in the fourth round. I'm

785
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: not even talk you talk about Steve. Bobby lah has

786
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: been a hot button name. Not not for me, even

787
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: though I like him as a player in the second round.

788
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: I'm not there at twenty six.

789
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: If one of your primetime O linemen that you would

790
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: like is there, you choose Vjeon over them. I'm not

791
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: a fan, okay, but you know what you could do though,

792
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 3: and this is this would make the Isaiahs of the world,

793
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: which I'm right there with you. This is why I

794
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: know this would please you, because it would please me

795
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: as well. Talk to Vjeon's there at twenty six. You

796
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: pull that trigger and you take him, and then you

797
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: move up for fifty eight.

798
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you go get up and then Torrents next

799
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: give up your what are you gonna give up?

800
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: Well to move up? It depends on how far are

801
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: you going you go from. Probably you're probably gonna give

802
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: up give up your thirty kids.

803
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: Uh No, you'd probably give up a fourth at that point,

804
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: maybe a sixth or something.

805
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: Let me let me just you you can get your

806
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: I know they're gonna be a lot of people that

807
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: are going to be like, dude, get your data. I

808
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: I think the only person that sees eye to eye

809
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: with me on this particular matter is Nate Newton. And

810
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: I say that because as great and a talent as B.

811
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: Jon Roberson is and some of these other skilled position

812
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: guys are, they're only as good as the guys that

813
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: are in front of them blocking.

814
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Period. Agreed.

815
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: If I have a dominant you know, I mean dominant

816
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: offensive line, I don't need a dominant running back.

817
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: My one. And I know this is this is because

818
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: you're not wrong, but it's not that cutting dry. This

819
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: is you know, it's not.

820
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: This is college to the NFL. Wait, wait a second

821
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: college to the NFL. B John Robinson did not have

822
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: an offensive line of Texas. That offensive line was poor,

823
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: very very bad. Still dok Walker Award winner. He was

824
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: the nation's top running back. He was Team All American,

825
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: he was first team All Big Twelve. He led to

826
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: awesome fbs and scrimmage yards. This offense, even though there

827
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: are holes on the offensive line, you can convince me

828
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: that this offensive line is good enough to block for

829
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: a B genre, You're not the worst offensive line in football,

830
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: and you still have a B Jehan Robinson.

831
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna be an incredible running back for you right now? Now?

832
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: Is it the best offensive line you could possibly have? Absolutely? Not.

833
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: Do you have concerns at the running backs? Did you

834
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: have concerns at the running back position? Last year? No?

835
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: Do you have concerns now?

836
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: Not, as I'm not as solidified, but I also concerns answers,

837
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: Yes you have concerns, Yes, at the running back position.

838
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: What is your concern in comparison to last year? When?

839
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: Just in general? Do you have concerns? Are you worried

840
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: about are you going into this draft like, man, we

841
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: got to have a running back? No?

842
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: I just said, no, okay, the show, what do you have?

843
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying. So what I'm

844
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: saying is I absolutely think they need a running back.

845
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that it's I mean I think they

846
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: need to add a position. I don't think they need

847
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: to go get up a big dog like this, right, who's.

848
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Your running back in twenty twenty four? Who's your running back?

849
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Tony Potter is gonna sit here's my concern.

850
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: You don't know.

851
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know, right, But you know what

852
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay, you know what I'm saying. I feel

853
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: like you.

854
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 3: Even does which you can't guarantee dominant, does you? Rojo

855
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: is a one year deal?

856
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Okay?

857
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: You want Milie Davis to develop, and we believe he can.

858
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: But until you see it, you don't see it. Right.

859
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: So am I as rock solid as I was last

860
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: year with Pollard and Zeke and Malik? Absolutely not.

861
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: But I'm not so concerned that I believe it's a

862
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 3: need because rewind to the top of the episode.

863
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's a need. I believe that it

864
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed.

865
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: Correct that being said again, if b Jon Robinson is

866
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: there at twenty six, I'm not stupid.

867
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Now, I guess.

868
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: I guess my whole approach to this is ninety nine

869
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: percent of the teams in the NFL are running back

870
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: by committee.

871
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: There's there's one dude in this league that doesn't need

872
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: an accomplished You said ninety nine percent. I don't know

873
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: if that's right. What what one running back does not need?

874
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: A Derrek Heary? Thank you very much. Other than that,

875
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: everybody needs a tandem. So what I'm saying is you're

876
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: gonna have a running back by committee, no matter what.

877
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: No matter what, You're gonna have a running back by

878
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: committee unless you are sixty three fifty pounds running a

879
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: four to four.

880
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Would you call Saquon Barkley a running back by committee?

881
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Would you call Dalvin Cook a running back by the committee?

882
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: Wi Walker running back by committee? No, they're just that's

883
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: a number one running back and then a number two

884
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: and a number three.

885
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: That's what that is. So that's what if it's not

886
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: running back? If I commission to.

887
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: You that you you get Bejon at twenty six if

888
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: he's available, which is a home just a grand slam.

889
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: And then in the second round you address your io

890
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: will so you bolster your io wel because there's going

891
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: to be someone that's really good that you can plug

892
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: right into left guard and upgrade that offense.

893
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: Be a solid second. Right, So what if you could

894
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: do both? Like you remember that that me give little girl,

895
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: She's like, why not both? That's how I feel? Why not?

896
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: You know what draft does and we're saying the same

897
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: you know, and we're saying the same thing. You're just

898
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: you're just valuing the running back over over what I'm

899
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: valuating in line. No, no, no, I'm not positionally speaking,

900
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: I am not. I'm with you positionally speaking. Positionally speaking,

901
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: I value the offensive line over the running back.

902
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: But value conversation understood.

903
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: This particular, the value of b jehon Robins unders twenty

904
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: six understood.

905
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: Trump's my positional value understood. That's what I'm saying. What's

906
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: your what's your letter grades? If Bjon's the pick, I

907
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: mean I give it. I give it a A, but

908
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: it's not a plus. Okay, yes, fair, So.

909
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: We're arguing over an unlikely possibility of an A A plus.

910
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: It's a hell of a talent. Listen, I'm not disrecrediting this.

911
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: Dude's a hell of a tail. We don't think.

912
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking about being dominant sure in whatever aspect

913
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: of the game you choose to approach passing and running.

914
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: I want to be dominant at the office line of scrimmage.

915
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: If Bjon is there's twenty six, that means you just

916
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: went full BPA because of value, and I'm fine with

917
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: that considering who we're talking about. But that then swings

918
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: to pinch it because you know, physic. It swings to

919
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: pinch in the other direction, which is now pure need,

920
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: which is.

921
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to care.

922
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: I don't want to care about Washington Commander's D line.

923
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to care about Philadelphia's D line. I

924
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 3: don't want to care about the New York Giants D line.

925
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: Give me all of them, don't give r what if

926
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: Chris Tucker said, Yeah, that's how I feel. When you

927
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: have a dominant O line. It doesn't matter who steps up,

928
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter who's behind them. My thing is

929
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: and everyone would do well to remember this. The draft

930
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: doesn't end twenty six. You just figure out you have

931
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Speaker 3: to take out.

932
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: What is that?

933
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to tell them that all the time.

934
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Speaker 1: All right, you just figure out where you're going after that.

935
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Speaker 1: That's all all right.

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988
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Speaker 2: a couple other names. We gotta fly through this. It

989
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: won't be as big of a debate. I don't think

990
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: quick Dalton Kinkaid tight End from Utah. If he's the

991
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 2: pick at twenty six, no trade up needed, he falls again,

992
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: What would your pick be there?

993
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: What would your grade be? I would say it's a

994
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: solid B plus.

995
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: I don't think it's as fun as Bjeon. I don't

996
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: think it's as impactful as Darnell, right, but I still

997
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: think it's a hell of a pick. Give me a

998
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 2: B plus on on Dalton Kinkaid and I would ride

999
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: with that, and I'd be exceptionally happy.

1000
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: If he's a selection. What do you think plus as well?

1001
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: B plus? You think of Pat?

1002
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: You make kind of a WinCE there You against tight End?

1003
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 7: No?

1004
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely, not not as far as getting one, because again

1005
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: it's in need and you gotta have.

1006
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: It again Dalton kink No, I'm not against Dalton twenty six.

1007
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm just against Daulton k Kate at twenty six. Really

1008
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: C plus C plus Okay?

1009
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: What if I told you he's probably going to go

1010
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen C plus Okay? Still see because

1011
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm also looking at what you could have if you

1012
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: didn't go tighten at twenty six, what would likely still

1013
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: be on the table at that position.

1014
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at from a macro. It is a

1015
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: really good I'm looking at it from a macro.

1016
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: So the C plus is is not a knock to

1017
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: to Kinkate whatsoever, as much as it is me saying,

1018
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: you know what, you didn't have to go tight end

1019
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: at you know, at twenty six, and if you were

1020
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: to do that, is Mayor available?

1021
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Is Darnell's still available? Those That's the conversation I have.

1022
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: Okay, how about this Michael Mayer? What is your grade?

1023
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: If he's the pick at twenty six? He was the

1024
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: next name I had on the list B B, so

1025
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: better than Dalton Kinka, I think I would go with

1026
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: it is better than k I think the better, but

1027
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: I I think Kaid is a better player.

1028
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: But I also like Mayor.

1029
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't dislike so we we have the same principal,

1030
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: same thought process, which is, you know you're fine with

1031
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: that twenty six if it's this particular guy, it's just

1032
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: that you like King Kate more than may Or.

1033
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: I like Mayor. I'd be okay with either one, So

1034
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: I think both. I have a first round grade on

1035
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: both games. It's not fail if it's K That's why

1036
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I said it's a C plus. I mean that's still passing.

1037
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: What if I tell you I won Darnel Washington over

1038
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: eat both of them, you wouldn't be alone, but you

1039
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: would still be in the minority. That's fine. I've always

1040
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: been a minority in my whole life. Talk to them King,

1041
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: talk to him King. You know why, because it is

1042
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: the minority. If he fits in them, you see a friend.

1043
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: The manifestations of the consolations, of the constellations, it's the mode.

1044
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: No secret.

1045
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: I am absolutely huge on Darnielle Washington, both subjectively and objectively.

1046
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: But I don't even I be as as big as

1047
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 3: I am on Darnelle Washington. I don't think that you

1048
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: would have to grab him at twenty six. I think

1049
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 3: you got to get him way before fifty eight. But

1050
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: that could be a trade down scenario. You go down

1051
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: from twenty six to like thirty thirty one, six seven, seven,

1052
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: if you get if you go down from twenty six

1053
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: to like thirty thirty one, you get Darnell six seven,

1054
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: two seventy with.

1055
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: Some entree issues and kind of labors to get going

1056
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 2: off the line of scrimmage.

1057
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: But he's a hell of a block. Get him the block.

1058
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: That's me pretty much what he would do, rookie. I

1059
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: need them to be Tim Duncan in the paint on

1060
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: the goal line. If you give me, that's all.

1061
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: I need to be block and then go box somebody

1062
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: out on the goal line. That's all I'm asking you

1063
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: to do. Darnell Washington at thirty with an extra pick.

1064
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: That's that's Paddy Milk delicious.

1065
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: Is what that it is?

1066
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, stop doing that. Oh, Cyrus Torrance trade down scenario,

1067
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: Cyrus Torrence, what would you give that?

1068
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: Great? Hey? A plus?

1069
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: A plus trade down? Get an extra pick and.

1070
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: A plus. I'll toss a plus one.

1071
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: I think I would say I would say a plus two.

1072
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: I almost gave Torrans the first round grade because I think.

1073
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: He's that dominant. I didn't. I gave him a two,

1074
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: but I would be totally. I don't hate those you

1075
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: did that to me. I didn't do that.

1076
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: I love doing that all right, last one and then

1077
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: we'll say goodbye and we'll get you ready for the draft.

1078
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: This is if you had to tell me right now

1079
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: who I think the pick will be. I think it's

1080
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: this guy, Will McDonald edge rusher out of all Iowa state.

1081
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: You just had a pin throw. That's what we call

1082
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: on the draft shows, a pin throw. Why do you

1083
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: hate me, Will McDonald?

1084
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 7: What?

1085
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: First of all, we're what a Burger family? Second of all?

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Speaker 1: Second of all, we don't need another edge rusher, especially

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Speaker 1: that high.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're loaded up there, you're loaded up at the

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Speaker 3: past rush four now, but yeah, that's not a need.

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Speaker 1: That is the least of your needs on your whole roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I also know I would take

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Speaker 2: an edge rusher any day because I just I want

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Speaker 2: to get out.

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Speaker 1: You talk about being dominant.

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Speaker 2: But that's like you high about being that's like you

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Speaker 2: have you're a proponent of taking Michael White.

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Speaker 1: That's like you have six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's freaking a freaking specimen six white button ups, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, you know what, I'm gonna grab another.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just like I'm having white buttons and

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with it for what because I can rotate

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Speaker 2: him through and he keeps me.

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Speaker 3: Still, you still need you still need a blazer you

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Speaker 3: need a blazer and you have there buying more white

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Speaker 3: white Yes, don't get the blazer man.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing as too many white white button.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have a blazer yet, but

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Speaker 1: I got seven of these. If that's what I wear,

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Speaker 1: that's what I wear.

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Speaker 3: Like Jesus, love me some Will McDonald, but I also

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Speaker 3: love some of these other other edge rushers, like Derek

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Speaker 3: Hall for example. I mean, like you could you could

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Speaker 3: get a home run pick at edge after twenty six,

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Speaker 3: And so as much as I love Will McDonald, i'd.

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Speaker 1: Probably give that a D. Wow, I'll probably give it

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Speaker 1: a D because again, you gotta balance it.

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Speaker 3: You gotta balance his b p A in need and

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Speaker 3: you know, Will McDonald, I would struggle for you to

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Speaker 3: convince me. You would struggle to convince me that at

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Speaker 3: twenty six, even if Will McDonald is there, that he's

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Speaker 3: the bp A, So that means he's neither b p

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Speaker 3: A nor need. That's a D and D is a

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Speaker 3: failing grade and a lot of school systems, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna go for it because of his talent level.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a full F, but it's an absolute

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Speaker 1: D for me. This is gonna be a fun show

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Will McDonald's for his talent is what keeps it from

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Speaker 2: being I'm gonna I'm gonna save the show here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a B plus because I really do

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Speaker 2: like well McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Nothing is that IM talking about McDonald and I love

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Speaker 1: adding that.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe he'd be the best player available at

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Speaker 3: twenty six if he's there? If the answers no, then

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Speaker 3: he's neither bp A nor need No.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I under what rotation is he in? I would put him?

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Speaker 1: Is it your first, second or third rotation? You're taking

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Speaker 1: rips from sitting your second rotation. He's in your second rotation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he may be in your first rotation. He may

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Speaker 2: be a starter above Dorance Armstrong because you have Micah

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Speaker 2: technically is your little linebacker tool back and forth?

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Speaker 1: Nor McDonald is Norris has had a career year. Durrance

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Speaker 1: is a great player. But will your first one on

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Speaker 1: d lost there too. So I'm saying, three guys, Michael,

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Speaker 1: and three guys you're not saying. But that's the thing

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Speaker 1: about dan Quinn's defense. He's find a freaking.

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Speaker 3: Way I know, But We're talking about traditional way to

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Speaker 3: do it. You have two d ns in the game

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Speaker 3: at one time. Play with two d ns, you gotta

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Speaker 3: have a vision. He has a vision, and that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You got Donald, Donald's your other rusher. That's fair exactly,

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Speaker 1: fourth round edge there there you go. All right, Well

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. Well we'll see what happens this week. Should

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Speaker 1: be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Draft coverage starting at six pm on Thursday. Tune in

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Speaker 2: to the draft shows the restaurant. Yeah, I'm ready, let's

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Speaker 2: get going on. I'm ready to get to Thursday. Let's

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Speaker 2: get this thing up rolling. All right, that doesn't for us.

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Speaker 2: Here on Talking Cowboys for Chris be and Isaiah standback Patrick, No, Sewalker,

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