1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Everybody, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: what's going on? DJ Bucky here, moved the sticks and 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: we have plenty of coaching news to talk about today, Buck, 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: as well as it sounds like a very intriguing player 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: entering the NFL draft. Yeah crazy, um, last forty eight 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: hours with all the coaching moves, and then prominent quarterback 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: decided that he is going to cast his lot into 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: National Football League. Oh yeah, and by the way, we have, uh, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: we have some big playoff games this weekend as well, 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: four playoff games. You got kind of a big deal. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: We'll we'll jump in and do our preview of those games. Uh, 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: once we get through this. Uh, this news here at 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: the top, which is gonna consist of a lot of 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: new coaching coaching hires, but it's not official yet, I guess. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: But there's reports that came out that said the Oklahoma 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: quarterback Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Kyler Murray is going to 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: throw his hat into the ring and maybe baseball is 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: uh is on the back burner, Buck, Maybe this this 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: is uh, this is a football kid right now in 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: a baseball kidding all or Murray? Yeah, talented playmaker. UM 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: obviously the Hysman Trophy winner. UM is a special and 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: unique talent at the position. UM. We can talk about 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: all the good things that he brings to the field. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: UM high i Q, big time arm, tremendous athlete, has speed, 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: his quickness, UH loves to perform on the big stage. 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Has a reputation for being a winner going all the 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: way back to high school. Some would say he may 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: have been the best high school player that ever played 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: the state of Texas, which says a lot. But he 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: is going to have to work around two things. He 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: has to work around the height sized deal, being at 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: a guy that will probably come in at under five ten. 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Some are saying five nine UM, and he's under two 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, and so you wanted you wonder if he's 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: big enough to kind of withstand the contact and the 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: physicality and punishment of playing in the league. And then 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: the other thing is the baseball issue, which one does 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: he really really love because he's been a first round 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: pick in baseball? Is he more committed to playing baseball 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: and football? That will be some of the things that 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: he has to work through. But there's no doubt in 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: my mind, just from a pure talent perspective, that he 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: is a first round talent. It's just a matter of 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: which team is willing to bank on his willingness to 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: come to the league and his ability to get it 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: done in the league. Yeah, and we say this every 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: year when it when it comes to these draft prospects 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and where could you know people want to go? Where 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: could they go? And look, it only takes one team. Uh, 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: you can talk to twenty teams that say, you know what, 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't really fit with us. You know, we're not 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: going to try and alter what we're doing a little bit. 53 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: And and his size will be an issue for us. 54 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: It only takes one and there will definitely be when 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I'll be shocked if this kid didn't go in the 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: first round. And when I watched him last night, buck Uh, 57 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: first thing it is, I watched all the third and 58 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: six plus throws, which I love to watch, and all 59 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. He kind of eliminates some of the bubble screens. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: See these guys push the ball down the field. He 61 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: has got a cannon. I mean he has a huge arm. 62 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: H Baker Mayfield had a very strong arm as we've 63 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: all seen. This kid's arm is every bit as strong, 64 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: if not stronger. Um. The ball jumps out of his hand. 65 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: He's obviously one of the fastest quarterbacks you're ever gonna see. 66 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: When he takes off, he covers ground in a hurry. Um. 67 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's as accurate as Baker was 68 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: on the on the on the flip side, I think 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of an issue there. I don't 70 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: think he moves around in the pocket quite as well 71 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: as Baker, that he wants to get out of there 72 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Um. So I don't think he's 73 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: the He's different. He's a different player. He's a different 74 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: style of player a little bit, even though they played 75 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: in the same offense. But if you commit to it, 76 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: and you want to spread people out and uh and 77 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: put him back deep in the shotgun where he can 78 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: see um, which will basically is NFL all right now, 79 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely this guy can play. Uh. It's it's weird. I 80 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: would have never thought. I mean if you if both 81 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: of us were having a conversation and a coffee shop 82 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: and in mobile at the Senior Bowl five years ago 83 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: and said we'll gona a five ft eight, five ft 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: nine quarterback, there's no chance it's a different it's changed, man, 85 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: and you've got to adjust to it. I think he's 86 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: a more natural passer than Lamar Jackson. I don't know 87 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: where you are on that, but I think it's just 88 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: he can throw from a variety of platforms, and he 89 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: can throw with some touch and and and everything else. 90 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: So I thought he was a better thrower of the 91 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: football than Lamar. Yeah. I don't even think they're similar 92 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: and at all in terms of how they play whatever. 93 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is I would 94 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: come from to more like Russell Wilson in terms of 95 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: like kind of starting from their basis, particularly because Russell 96 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: also played baseball. He is not as thick um as 97 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Russell Man. I think it's gonna be probably about I 98 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: don't think he's much bigger than that. If that um, 99 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, and he's he's gonna be whatever. He is 100 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: five eight and a half five nine, five ten. I 101 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: went back and I looked at our opening um stuff 102 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: when he came through, and then he measured out at 103 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: five ten, and I don't know if that was just 104 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: a generous measurement, but he didn't do he didn't do 105 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: any of the testing, and normally I just kind of 106 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: want to see what he ran. But he didn't do anything, 107 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: and some of that may have been due to the 108 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: baseball stuff, but he's more explosive than Russell is as 109 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: an athlete. Um, I would say their arm talent is comfortable. 110 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: I think the one thing when it comes to Russ 111 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: is that he's not as thick as Russ was in 112 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: in the league. And we've seen how Russ has kind 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: of grown into his body and become a little thicker. Um. 114 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if if Kyli could ever 115 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: be Um Russell's bill, but I do believe. Look, man, 116 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: it has been playing all of his life like he's 117 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: never had any major injuries. He's always been a way, 118 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: uh found a way to be successful. They talked about 119 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Texas high school football being the best football at this 120 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: out there. He did it at a bigger stage in 121 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: the Big twelve, so I won't count him out. And 122 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: in this draft, I think it's a perfect storm because 123 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: we can talk about Dwayne Haskins being the prototypical but 124 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: all those other guys their question marks everywhere. So why 125 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: not throw your you know you're heading to the ring 126 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: and just kind of see which team falls in love. 127 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: When I talk to people, I got a lot of 128 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: favorable responses on look, man, he might not be necessarily 129 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: for our team, but there's no doubt about the talent. 130 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: And so when you hear enough of those, you begin 131 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: to think, like, he's going in the first round. I 132 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: just have no idea where Yeah, no, I I agree 133 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: with that assessment. He's gonna definitely go in the first round. 134 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: And then there's that I saw Schefter had kind of 135 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: speculated a little bit this morning that you know, there's 136 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: that video floating round of Kingsbury saying take him with 137 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the first pick when he was you know, while obviously 138 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: he never knew he would be with a team that 139 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: had the first pick. And then you've got Josh Rosen 140 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: there in Arizona. So maybe they trade Josh Rosen, they 141 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: draft Kyler Murray number one to commit full time to this, 142 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: uh Cliff Cliff Kingsbury brand of football. But when I 143 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: when I saw that report, Buck, I don't know where 144 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: you are on this, but my first thought was, no 145 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: one what we learned about Josh Rosen a little bit 146 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: through the draft process. Even just because Adam Schefter is 147 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: so reputable, the fact that this is being floated out there. 148 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: If Josh Rosen is unquestioned, your guy, you better get 149 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: out here. Somebody needs to get out there and say 150 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: something for twenty four hours and say it happening. We 151 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: always had Josh Rosen or Josh Rosen gonna be. It 152 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: ain't gonna that is not gonna end. Well if you 153 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: don't back him right now and then you end up 154 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: keeping and staying with Josh Rosen, that will not be 155 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: forgotten by Josh Rosen. Oh it won't be. So that's 156 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: why I didn't need to squash it. If there's anything, 157 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: especially because it came out of Cliff Kingsbury mouth, even 158 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: though it came out of his mouth in October, he 159 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: needs to squash and say, hey, Josh Rosen is my guy, 160 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: and I know he was very um if you use 161 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: have been. His praise at the press count was before 162 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray st So now he has to make 163 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: sure and go back and make sure that number three knows, Hey, 164 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: you're my guy. We're gonna build this single around you 165 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: and that's how we're going to proceed. And Steve come 166 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: also can um kind of squashed that as well to 167 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: let everyone know that we already have our franchise quarterback. 168 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: We're looking to find another impact player at the top 169 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: of the draft. Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see 170 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: what happens there with Kyler Murray. I would just kind 171 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: of pencil it in right now based off what I've seen. 172 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Plenty more work to do on all these guys. Um, 173 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: I would still have it as Haskins at number one, 174 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: buck Um and then to me two and three. Actually 175 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of like Drew Lock more than I thought I would. 176 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: I know the completion percentage is not great, um, but 177 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I kind of liked him when I watched him, So 178 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: to me, I think that's a competition with with Locke, 179 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: Um and uh and Daniel Jones there for that number 180 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: two and three spot, and and Kyler Murray is just 181 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: he's a wild card. So to me he would be 182 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: he'd be four. But again, we saw Baker Mayfield. I 183 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: thought he was the third best and he was absolutely 184 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: the right pick for the Browns and he went one overall. 185 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: So them, Um, I think that those are the four 186 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: names that we gotta focus on their going to the spring. Yeah, 187 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: I think so. And then it comes down to looking 188 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: at what teams need, what what what are they looking 189 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: for how do they want to build their offense. And 190 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: now that the coaches are beginning to settle um around, 191 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: let's let's look and see what is available. The one 192 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: thing that we we do know certain guys have certain 193 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: parameters where quarterbacks won't fit. The fact that Drew lock 194 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones are both more of the prototypical style, um, 195 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna carry favor in some rooms, whereas Kyla Murray 196 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: is a little different. And look, I mean two thousand 197 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: one was my first draft. That's the Drew Brees uh 198 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Michael Vick draft, and we absolutely no matter how great 199 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Drew Brees played, we couldn't put a first round grade 200 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: on him, and so he went thirty second overall. He's 201 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: the second round pick to the sandal good charges at 202 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the time, and that's what it was. And now we've 203 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: seen Baker Mayfield, a guy with siveral dimensions, go number one. 204 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: So all best are off in terms of what Kylin 205 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Murray would be. But I just snow it made our 206 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: draft coverage a lot better because then we got some 207 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we can talk about. I know, we thought 208 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: we're kind of always be talking about defensive it's gonna 209 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: be meeting potatoes and now that I saw the report 210 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: coming in to day that they may the aids may 211 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: allow him to work out of the combine, And all 212 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: I could do was clap my hands. Here we go 213 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: to talk about it on. Put some on. Yeah, So, UM, 214 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing, and it's always obviously better 215 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: when you have some sizzle when it comes to the quarterback. 216 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: And UM, I think the one thing that I do 217 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: want to kind of warn people because we're gonna hear 218 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: this narrative, especially coming out of Monday Night's championship game 219 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence and to those guys, everyone's gonna talk 220 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: about this class being weak, and I'm gonna say, please, 221 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: don't dismiss the talent at quarterback in this class. It's 222 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: a little different than past years. But look, I remember 223 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Deshauan Wasson, Pat Mahomes 224 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: and those guys did a question marks right. And then 225 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: this year, like last year, Um, we talked about it 226 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: being celebrated, but there are questions on Josh Allen, Sam 227 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Donald and the like. Every year they're questions on the quarterback. 228 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: It's about picking the right one for your franchise and 229 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: then having a plan and the other thing that we 230 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: have to kind of, I guess, kind of get this 231 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: out of our head. Yeah, there's no waiting to get 232 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: on the field, whoever you take. They're going to play 233 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: their rookie season after two games, four games, first start. 234 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: At some point, the rookie is going to play. So 235 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: we can talk. We can quit talking about Ay they 236 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: need to sit a year and get some season. Yeah, 237 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: that's not really had No, No, it doesn't exist. It 238 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: does not exist. And you know the funny thing is, 239 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: I think you've got luck and there uh sorry, Drew 240 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: lock in In Jones, Daniel Jones kind of I think 241 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: vying for position. They're both I believe, gonna be on 242 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: the same team, uh coach by the Raiders at the 243 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. So we'll get a chance to sort those 244 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: guys out. And then, I mean, you could not be 245 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: any polar opposite the way Dwayne Haskins plays the game 246 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: and the way Kyler Murray plays the game. Here they 247 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: are both Heisman finalists. Murray wins that Murray undersized um 248 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: explosive you know, you know, kind of the national they're 249 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: the semifinal game. I didn't think he played particularly well. 250 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: You look at the bone we ran for over a 251 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: hundred yards against against Alfia. No, he did. Dwayne Haskins 252 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: is a pure pocket passer, like he is not moving 253 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: at all. No, And and and that's the thing, like 254 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the thing with Dwayne Haskins, And we can pick them apart, 255 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: we can talk about the other guys. I think it's 256 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: just really really important that everyone kind of do the evaluation, uh, 257 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: make sure they kind of put the grays down and 258 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of put it put it into death. And when 259 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: we go through this roller coaster ride of the you know, 260 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, combine the workouts, man just trying to 261 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: remember how they played and trying not to get caught 262 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: up in the workhouse and some of the other stuff, 263 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: because man, it's gonna fool you. And we'll see a 264 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: lot of movement. And the guys that are probably the 265 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: best evaluators are the ones that kind of stayed true 266 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: to process. And Oh, I wanted to ask you this 267 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: because you were in Baltimore, Ozzi knew some feel Savage. 268 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: At the time, they were known as I mean never, 269 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean that organization was known as probably the best 270 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: drafting organization. How did y'all treat All Star games and workouts. 271 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: When it came up to the combine, we always talked 272 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: about and you hear it the media now all the time, 273 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: but we always talked about just check another box. So 274 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: we wanted guys that kind of we felt like, just 275 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: kind of passed all the tests. But we always set 276 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: our board before the All Star Games, so you guys 277 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: not gonna fall too far, guy's not gonna rise too much, 278 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: so you kind of have them anchored to the board 279 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: a little bit before you get here. But we you know, 280 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: we'd be in the meetings and say, Okay, I passed 281 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: the test in the regular season, he passed the test 282 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: at the All Star Game. He was did everything he 283 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: needed to do with the combine, interviewed well as physical, 284 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: came back fine. Those are the types of guys we 285 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: wanted to take in the first two rounds. We want 286 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: to get guys that were just clean across the board 287 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: and didn't have any hiccups throughout that process. But now 288 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: you can get some values. You can get some values now, 289 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: and you get those middle rounds because the guy might 290 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: lay an egg in an All Star Game and uh, 291 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: and people discount everything that he did to the tape. 292 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I see it. He didn't lay an egg 293 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: in the All Star Game, but I remember, um, you know, 294 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Desmond King getting beat vertically by Cooper Cup and that 295 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuck to him a little bit. In the 296 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: draft process. The Charges ended up getting him in the 297 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: fifth round. Buck. Now he they don't ask him to 298 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: play outside. He plays a nickel guys in All pro um. 299 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: So you can you can kind of get confused a 300 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: little bit by what takes place these All Star Games. Okay, 301 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: So it's funny that you mentioned that about the Also game. 302 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: So you obviously worked under um Ozzy Newsom, who is 303 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer as a player, would be a 304 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer as executive. He wasn't already in there. Um, 305 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: I worked under all those guys that were descendenced under 306 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: the wrong wolf Tree, and the way that we treated 307 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: All Star games were completely different. They were independent and 308 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: separate from whatever the regular season grade was. So we 309 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: would give a grade based on the film study from 310 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: the regular season, and then we would look at the 311 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: All Star Games and the All Star Game. So in 312 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the regular season, like you know how you give, we 313 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: have the grading scale and the grading scale to go 314 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: up to eight point. Oh, so you give a grade, 315 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: and so maybe the bottom of the first round grade 316 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: would be a seven. Oh, that's right at the bottom 317 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: of the first round. It just means that you're a 318 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: solid starter. You'll be a starter from day one. That's 319 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: the expectation. In All Star games, it was a simpler, 320 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: smaller grading scale that was really one to five. So 321 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: if a guy had an excellent week UH at the 322 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl or at the Blue Grade Game, or any 323 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: of the games we went to, we just give them 324 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: five if it was very good, four three or whatever, 325 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: But that grade didn't really factor into um how we 326 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: viewed him on the board. It was just the thing 327 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, well, look at the Alstar Game 328 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: he kind of had a little issue dealing with speed. 329 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the regular season tape and see 330 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: if that showed up at all, and is there anything 331 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: that we missed based on what we saw at the 332 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: All Star Game. The same thing would be said for 333 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: UH workouts at the combine watching workout, if a speed 334 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: issue came up, hey, let's go back and look at 335 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: the tape. The grade doesn't change, but let's make sure 336 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: we didn't overlook anything. Now, I know some people some 337 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: organizations do it a little differently, but I was always 338 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: kind of taught like that's how you evaluated. Make sure 339 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: your grade is really rooted into what you saw from 340 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: them on the film and the fall, and that you 341 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: don't get swayed too much by what happens after December. Yeah, 342 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: we did something similar so every um, if were there 343 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: an All Star game, you don't stay for the game. 344 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, the most scouts come in there. 345 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: Your personnel departments in there for the practices and then 346 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: you'll watch the game on on tape when it comes 347 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: into the facility. But you're there from you know, Monday 348 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: to Thursday. Uh so Thursday Wednesday evening, I guess I 349 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: should say, because you watched the morning practice Thursday, then 350 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: usually they leave. But Wednesday evening we would rent out 351 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: a conference room and we would all the scouts that 352 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: come in there, and during the week, every scout would 353 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: be assigned to a position at at the Senior Bowl. 354 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: So we would then, Um, you had to write a 355 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: little summary on your on the guys in your position 356 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: you had to give and we use the same grade 357 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: and sale we use in the fall. He had to 358 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: give him a grade UM for that week, and then 359 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: you had to rank them in their position groups. So 360 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: we'd say, all right, let's start with dbs. DJ. You 361 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: did the DBS, so I'd read my uh, I'd go 362 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: through all of them all right, starting with the number 363 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: one guy, you know, d Dada, he did this this week, 364 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, sixty seven, all right, number two guys this week, Dadada, 365 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: And so you were kind of stacking those guys just 366 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: based off of that week, and then it could be 367 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a um, it could be a tiebreaker. 368 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: I guess I should say when you get into the 369 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: draft room, say hey, we have trying to sort this 370 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: guy out. Two guys said they take Jones. Two guys 371 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: said they take Smith. You know what. They were at 372 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl together in the same dB group and Jones, 373 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, we had him as a number one guy 374 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: that week. Smith was the number five guys, So that'll 375 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: be the tiebreaker, will put him over him. So that's 376 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: kind of how we did it. Man. This is just 377 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: so funny when you talk about like the tiebreaker, because 378 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: I told you we did those long meetings leading up 379 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: on the combine where we're all together and even though 380 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: you graded everybody in the fall like, we would sit there, 381 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: so if they were twelve scouts on staff, we were 382 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: sitting around the table, we were popping the tape, and 383 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: on the board we would have all the left tackles 384 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: or all the offensive tackles UH in alphabetical order, and 385 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: we would just go down alphabetical order, pop three tapes 386 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: in on blankety blank prospect A. We'll look at all 387 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 1: of them. Then we kind of have a group discussion 388 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: and then we would kind of set the board that way, 389 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: and they would take about seventeen to eighteen days to 390 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: get to all of the names. But the one thing 391 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: that I liked about doing it that way because I 392 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: was working in the West and I hadn't um had 393 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: an opper when you see some of the guys in 394 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: the Southeast, it gave me an opportunity that by the 395 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: time I got to the combine, I knew who everyone was, 396 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: so at least when I'm looking at the like, okay, 397 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kid fro missing State from L s U. 398 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: So it just it just gave me a different um 399 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of perspective, and it actually, in my mind helped 400 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: me when I went back on the road to be like, yeah, 401 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: this guy is nice out west. But so it was 402 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: so it was good from dadvantage point, but I kind 403 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: of wanted to get into that because, um man, you 404 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to work in Baltimore. So sometimes like 405 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: we always talked about the secret sauce and because they've 406 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: been able to kind of knock it out the park, 407 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I just wondered, what is you know, like pour some 408 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: of that catch up out. All right, let's go through 409 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: just real quick here, um give me see if we 410 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: can do Let's see, uh one liner. Okay, I'm gonna 411 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: give you the coach that's been hired by the organization, 412 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: and you just kind of give me your one liner. 413 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: It could be a comment, could be a question, could 414 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: be a concern you. It's up to you, Buck, Okay, 415 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: it's a challenge. You're ready to go, all right? The 416 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: Jets higher Adam Gaze, Oh that's your comment. I just 417 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: don't I just don't know how to feel about this 418 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: because he has a reputation for being a quarterback developer 419 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: and everything is about Sam Donald. He's gonna bring Dala 420 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: Loggins with him. But I just don't know. I guess 421 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: I need to notice success stories. Well, everybody says, you know, 422 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: Peyton had his best year with Gaze, that was how 423 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: we got the reputation started to grow. And then you 424 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: had Cutler had two of his better years, I think 425 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: two of his best years with him there with the Bears. 426 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: That's what got him the Dolphin's job. And Tannehill played 427 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: well early when he was healthy. So that's that's that's 428 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: the that's the supporting argument. Yeah, so that's so that's 429 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: the I just man, I'm just curious, like what is 430 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: he going to do because he's just odd inside the 431 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: division to get let go inside the division, inside the division, 432 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: don't see that very fired from your division, Routwood, and 433 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: you scoop him up and make him your guy. And 434 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: I think the weirder thing that came out of that 435 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: it seemed like you got Matt Rule was really in play, 436 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: but that mcagnet wanted to hire his staff, Like who 437 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: would ever agree to that? And you know, I'm I 438 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: think that's probably you know, I took my cap to 439 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Matt Rule and saying, hey, you know what he's he is. 440 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: His reputation is really growing in the NFL for what 441 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: he's doing at the college level. He's got NFL with 442 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: some NFL experience, he's got the Tom Coughlin stamp of approval. 443 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: Haven't been around him. Don't just wait, man, You'll you'll 444 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: get a job where you get to bring all your dudes. 445 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: Don't don't take one and get get other coaches forced 446 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: on you. That's just be patient. He he's gonna get 447 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: one here. He's a good coach man. Yeah, I mean, 448 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: I think he is a good coach. And I think 449 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: what he has been able to do in Baylor turning 450 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: the program around, UM having some NFL experience, turned the 451 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: program around in Temple, like DJ. If I'm talking about 452 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: taking a college guy, that's the kind of college guy 453 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: that I want. I would like to have a little 454 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: level of success and be like, Okay, he's running program. 455 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: He understands how to get the program going, because in 456 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, that's what you have to do. You gotta 457 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: get the n tire program going beyond just a quarterback. 458 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next one here. Freddie 459 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: Kittens the Browns. I like it, UM, I like it. 460 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: At a conversation with someone who was on staff up there, 461 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: uh last year, they talked about Freddy Kitchens and the 462 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: collaborative effort um that he kind of engaged in after 463 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: he took over on offense, and how they kind of 464 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: share responsibilities, how the players were involved in terms of 465 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: building the game plan and those things, And I really 466 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: really like that. There's a part of me that believes 467 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: that coaching in the pros is really a cooperation. You 468 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: want to solicit feedback from all of your assistance. You 469 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: want players to have a little bit of input because 470 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: I just believe more people are willing to invest in 471 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: kind of buy in when you kind of give them 472 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: a little say in the process. Yeah. I liked it too. 473 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: I think it's smart. He's already shown he can he 474 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: can move the football and he's uh, he's got a 475 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: good report there with Baker Mayfield. Now that just comes 476 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 1: down to me hiring the right defensive coordinator. Kick Williams out. 477 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: They gotta go find a good coordinator, so that would 478 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: be his challenge. But I do like the move. I 479 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: think it makes sense. Uh, broncos Vic Fangio love it. 480 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: And I love it because at a time when everyone 481 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: are kind of reaching out trying to find these inexperienced 482 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: head coaches. I like the fact that the Broncos are 483 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: getting these grizzled guys together. Not only do you get 484 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, but you get Gary Kubiak, who used to 485 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: be the head coach. You have that experience there, You 486 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: have experienced play callers on both sides of the ball. 487 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: And for a team that I think still defensively, they 488 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: have enough pieces to almost be at the championship level. 489 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: I believe these are the right guys to kind of 490 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: get it going. I like what they're doing in Denver 491 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: on this one. Yeah, I was talking with somebody that 492 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: said in the league that said, you know what, always 493 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: still from kind of the old school, and he just 494 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: went and found a guy that's a good football coach. 495 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: You know, like he's you know, maybe a little bit vis, 496 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: a little bit gruff. I've been around him, uh in Baltimore, 497 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna be very frank and maybe 498 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: not gonna be the best press conference guy, but he's 499 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: a football coach. And he was in Baltimore and I 500 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: was there. He was kind of up top as uh 501 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: as Billicks like time out guy, Like he was okay, man, 502 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't know he's been anything just 503 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: for one here. Okay, Well, yeah he was. I don't 504 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: think he wasn't on the field, he was just he 505 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: was up in the booth. Um, all right. Bruce Arians 506 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: to Tampa. Yeah, I thought I love this one too. 507 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: I think experience matters, just like we talked about the 508 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos going to getting the best coach. I think 509 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: the fact that Bruce Arians um is grizzled enough, and 510 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: that's the word that I used earlier. Um, I think 511 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: he's grizzled enough to maybe maximize Jamis Weston. I think 512 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: he might be the right kind of tough guy, nice 513 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: guy to kind of work there. But also like the 514 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: fact that he had a staff ready to go when 515 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: he got there, Todd Bowls as his defensive coordinator, buying 516 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: left which coming in as the offensive coordinator. I think 517 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: this is a move that Bruce arians may be there 518 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. I think this job transitions 519 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: eventually to tie bowls and tap. That makes sense. I 520 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: like it. He's gotta get Jamis up and running. I 521 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: think Bruce ariansl Joe very well with him. Reminds me 522 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot there jimbo Um, So that'll be interesting there. Kingsbury, 523 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I know You've gone on record on this one, so 524 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: I'll take it buck Um. Shocked Maybe I guess shocked 525 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: would be the word I would use. I just didn't 526 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: think you could sell it. You know. Part of the 527 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: part of the deal is you gotta be able to 528 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: sell the higher not only to the not not tongue 529 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: to the fan base. I'm even talking to the team. 530 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna it's gonna take a minute. I 531 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: think for Cliff Kingsbury to earn the trust of some 532 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: veterans on that team, they might just go full rebuild, 533 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: just just scrap it, buck and just go completely young 534 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: and try and build it up from the ground floor, 535 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: because I can imagine that we'll get met with some 536 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: eye rolls in the building. You know, Look, this guy's 537 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: wasn't successful at Texas Tech. Um. The guy had an 538 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: NFL m v P at quarterback and still wasn't winning 539 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: big And then for to answer the question, everybody's gonna say, oh, 540 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: he's it's hard to win at Texas Tech. Well, Mike 541 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Leach was more successful Texas Tech with a lot less 542 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying that he's gonna have to win 543 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: over the building. Um, And that's gonna be h It's 544 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: gonna be his first challenge there. You know, the funny 545 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: thing is, of all of the coaches at Texas Tech, 546 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: he has the worst record, Mike Leach, Sunny Dike's, all 547 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: those guys, like he falls below those guys. Now, I 548 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: will say this, um, the first month of the season 549 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: is going to be the most important month for Cliff Kingsbury. 550 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: If they can start out fast, then I think you'll 551 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: get guys to buy into it. But this move kind 552 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: of reminds me a little bit of the Steve Spurrier 553 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: higher in Washington, and so it's really really important that 554 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: he picks a staff that has enough NFL experience that 555 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: can get it going while still respecting him. And I 556 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: think that is going to be a hard deal because 557 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: when he comes and depending on how his ideas are, 558 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: and if his ideas are kind of too far off 559 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: the radar and they're real collegiate, like some of those 560 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: old old school coaches are gonna look at him sideways 561 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: and they're gonna walk out the building and they're gonna 562 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: start murmuring to themselves. And I don't think he can 563 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: have those kind of guys on his staff. And he 564 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: also has to hire the right defensive coordinator, because the 565 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in a way is going to be the 566 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: de facto head coach because he is going to be 567 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: the one that's experienced in the league. And he has 568 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: to make sure he not only gets a guy that 569 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: has the right um resume and winning pedigree, he also 570 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: has the right personality so he doesn't kind of usurp 571 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: what Cliff Kingsbury he's trying to do in Arizona. Great points. 572 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: All right, just quickly on this last one here because 573 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: we talked about it because we got it in real 574 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: time on the pod previously. But La Flora with the Packers, Uh, 575 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: you know this is this is an interesting her. Um 576 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: man I text a bunch of you guys about La 577 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: Fleur and they said, um x and os wise, he's terrific. Uh, 578 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: great mind, brilliant mind. Has been exposed to a lot 579 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. He comes from the Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan Tree. However, 580 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: they said, man, I had one guy tell me like, man, 581 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: I just never saw him as a head coach type, 582 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: Like I just never saw that. Add another guy say like, look, 583 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: leadership skills and communication are his weakness. So the relationship 584 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: between he and Aaron Rodgers will be interesting how he 585 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: tries to navigate that, and by his own admission, he 586 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: talked about like working with Matt Ryan and how it 587 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: took a little while for Matt Ryan to kind of 588 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: warm up to him. I think the biggest thing that 589 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: the fleur has to be when he walks in the door. 590 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: He has to be authentic whatever his personality is. He 591 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: has to just own this is how I go about it. 592 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: And then the second thing he has to do is 593 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: he has to find a middle ground with Aaron Rodgers. 594 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: A little bit of what he likes, a little bit 595 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: of what I like come together. But I don't think 596 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: he can come in as a young, inexperienced guy and 597 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of tell the former m v P this is 598 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: how we're going to do it. It's my way of 599 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: the highway. He has to kind of figure out a 600 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: way to bridge that relationship because if he gets that right, 601 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: everybody else will fall in the line. Yeah. I think 602 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: we can kind of say the same thing about all 603 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: these it's about earning some trust. I think the one 604 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: built in advantage is uh is when you look at 605 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Freddie Kittens there, he already has a trust of of 606 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: that building with with what he did with that offense 607 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: there in Cleveland. U. So I means to see what 608 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: happens with these other two openings. We got the Bengals 609 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: in the Dolphins to way to see what happens there here. 610 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Christoph Shard? Uh kind of your guy Buck? What the 611 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins potentially? Uh could? Yeah? The two names that hearing 612 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: or Christoph Shard and Brian Floors Um. Chris Career has 613 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: a relationship up a long relationship with the New England 614 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Page because his dad, Bobby Riar, was a longtime executive there, 615 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: and so maybe he looks back at that organization and 616 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: appreciates and respects the stability of that program and maybe 617 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: tries to emulate some of that down in Miami. Or 618 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: he just goes for a guy that I called an 619 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: energy guy. Uh. Christian schartt is the energize of Bunny. 620 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: He's a guy that when we were in Seattle, we 621 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: drafted him. He was a third round pick for US, 622 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: played for US for a couple of years. Did we 623 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: trade him to Miami where he finished his career and 624 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: he has a reputation for being one of the best 625 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: teachers in the in the game. But he's also one 626 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: of the best leaders, and so if you're looking for 627 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: a dynamic leader, he certainly is that. I don't know 628 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: if the Miami Dolphins can go wrong with either of 629 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: those either of those guys. But I also believe that 630 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: the Special Team's coach Rizzy, that they keep interviewing, he 631 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: could be in playing. And I think more teams should 632 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: look and consider Special team coaches because they're the one 633 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: coach that deals with everybody on the team, the coordinators 634 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: on both sides, the players on both sides. They always 635 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: have to be into when it comes to game management. 636 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: It's an underrated position, but as one they could turn 637 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: out a really good Hey coach, just look at what 638 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: John Harby has been able to do, no doubt. Good point. Um, 639 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with those last two openings and uh, 640 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: but before we get to these NFL games, Big Playoff 641 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: games series, won't let everybody know they can stream every 642 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: NFL playoff game live on your mobile or tablet through 643 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: the NFL or Yahoo Sports app, So if you're on 644 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: the move, you can still check out the playoff games. 645 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: This week. Let's just go we're kind of we're getting 646 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: a little bit short on time. Just kind of the 647 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: one key here. Uh, let's go through the game's Colts Chiefs. 648 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: What what's the overriding thing here? What's gonna decide this game? 649 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Colts have to control the ball? UM, And I know, 650 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: like man, Frank and I go way back and Frank 651 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: and talked about like we're not gonna play keep away, 652 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna try and score it or whatever. But if 653 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: he's trying to fast break with the Kansas City Chiefs, 654 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: they can't get blown out the building. I know they 655 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: are high scoring outfit, but the best part of the 656 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs is their offense. So the best way 657 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: to keep them at bay don't let them get the ball. 658 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: If they continue to play the way that they played, 659 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: control of the ball, take shots out of maximum protection, 660 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: two man routes, um, and find a way to kind 661 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: of get their time of possession to about the thirty 662 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: two to thirty three mark. I absolutely believe that indian 663 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Napolis Colts can go on the road and win a 664 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: playoff game. Yep, I think you said it perfectly. I 665 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: like the Colts in this game. I think they match 666 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: up well. I just think Andrew lux Canna have a 667 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: little bit easier go of it against that that group 668 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: on the other side than Pat Mahomes will going up 669 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 1: against the pretty stingy Colts defense still shooting, though It's 670 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna be shoot out, big time shootout, high scoring game. 671 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys rams. I'll take this one buck to me. When 672 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: I look at this ball game, I think these uh, 673 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: these linebackers for the Cowboys, this is a perfect stage 674 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: for them. Uh. They gotta be able to play inside 675 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: out versus Todd Gurley in that perimeter run game. They'll 676 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: run those fly sweeps. They're able to get to the edges, 677 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: and you're not always gonna be able to set the 678 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: edge with your with your ends, so you've gotta be 679 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: able to sprint to the football inside out. I think 680 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: the speed of the Dallas Cowboys inside linebackers not only 681 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: ranging uh to the perimeter, but also gonna be challenged 682 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: a little bit in coverage. We saw this AM's offense 683 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: when Todd Gurley was rolling. We saw them isolate some 684 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: good linebackers. Shoot, remember Anthony Barr getting toasted. Uh. So 685 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna show up in coverage as well. But I 686 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys linebackers will be the key of this game. Yeah, 687 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys linebackers have to do a good job of 688 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: containing Ted Gurley. When I look at the Rams personnel, 689 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I really think they're a team that has to scheme 690 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: it up for their guys to win. I like the 691 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys personnel on the outside better, and then on offense, 692 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: I just think if the Cowboys able to run the 693 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: football and kind of pound it, it's another game of 694 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: keep away and playing at the Coseum, it plays in 695 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: their favorite because more than the fans in the building 696 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: would be Cowboy fans. Yep. Well, be interesting to see 697 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: what happens there. I'll be doing Chargers Patriots, so I'll 698 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: just get your thoughts on this one. What do you 699 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: think here? Buck? You know, look, if if the Charges 700 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: are able to walk into the stadium and they don't 701 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: get daunted by the helmet and the logo, they absolutely 702 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: should be the team that wins it. Did a more 703 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: talented team? Did a team that has all the A 704 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: level players? If we drafted the top ten players on 705 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: both rosters, I would say eight or nine of them 706 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: would be Charges over Patriots. And so that's the deal. 707 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: But the Patriots are a team that they typically find 708 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: a way to do whatever it takes to win. And 709 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: in this game, I think they're going to play Wisconsin basketball. 710 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: I think you can see more twenty one and twenty 711 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: two personnel. They're gonna run the football and they're really 712 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: going to be selected with their slots, their shots. They 713 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: don't want Philip Rivers in this offense to get on track. 714 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: I just kind of think that Tom Brady is going 715 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: to try and control it on his end, and it 716 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: really be up to the Charges defense to dictate the terms. 717 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: I'll just give you one guy here for the uh 718 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: uh for the Pages. Keeping an eye on here is 719 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Tray Flowers. Is is a really good defensive player there. 720 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: He can generate some pressure and move him around if 721 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: they want to, So, uh, that'd be one guy. Just 722 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: think keep an eye for the Patriots. The Chargers had 723 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: had some uh past protection issues. They were much better 724 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: that last meeting with the Baltimore Ravens, but previously against 725 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Broncos they had some issues. So 726 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. Tray Flowers be a key 727 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: player for the Patriots in that game. Eagles Saints, what 728 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: do you think, man? You know, like you gotta weather 729 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: to storm everybody ever ever talked to about playing the 730 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Saints in their place. They always talk about the way 731 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: they play at home is so much faster than the 732 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: way they play at the road. So you have to 733 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: be able to kind of get out of the first round. 734 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they were kind of liking it to an 735 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: old school Runda Rousey fight, like you gotta get past 736 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: the first round and taking the deep wad. If you 737 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: can do that, you can survive. The Philadelphia Eagles have 738 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: to just kind of be in range at the end 739 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: of the first quarter. If they do that, I think 740 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: they can rely on their experience and and and find 741 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: a way to maybe get it done at the end. 742 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: But that first quarter is everything. If I'm the Saints, 743 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: you want to start fast and get that crowd whipped 744 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: into a frizzy And if I'm the Eagles, I just 745 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of want to stay close and kind of take 746 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: it into the fourth quarter and find a way to 747 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: knock them off at the end. Yeah, you want to 748 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: hang in there, And I'll tell you what. The other 749 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: thing you've got to do is you've got to take 750 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: away the stars. Um, you can't if you're the Eagles 751 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: and you lose this game and they're throwing the ball 752 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: around to everybody else but Michael Thomas and Alvin Camara. 753 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: You just kind of live with it, you know. That's 754 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: if that happens. That happens, well, you can't do you 755 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: can't get out there in that first drive and you 756 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: look up and and my Thomas has already caught three balls, 757 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: and and Camara's got loose. You've got to find a 758 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: way to take those guys away. Um that, that, to 759 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: me is gonna be the big challenge for that group 760 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: when you go back and and look at their earlier 761 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: meeting with the Saints. I mean, look that Michael Thomas 762 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: did a pretty good job and four catches for ninety 763 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: two yards. Um, but man, that they've got to do. 764 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: They've got to continue to do that with him and 765 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: then shut down Camara. They couldn't get Camaro stopped in 766 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: that first meeting. So um that that, that, to me 767 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: is the key for that Eagles defense. Yeah, that is 768 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: absolutely the key. They have to do a good job 769 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: of of containing it, slowing it down. But you're right, Uh, 770 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: this is as simple as you have to make someone 771 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: outside of number for one and number thirteen beat, you 772 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: make make somebody else make plays let somebody else be 773 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: a hero, but you cannot let those guys get off. 774 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: Um make Drew Brees have to go a little deeper 775 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: down to depth chart to find some playmakers in this game. 776 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: There you go. Let's uh, let's look forward to a 777 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: great weekend of NFL football and we'll sooner or later, Buck, 778 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna know, uh who's coming into the draft officially? 779 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Saw the Zouri tight end just announced he's going back 780 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: to school, which is a blessing because I don't know 781 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: how to pronounce his last name and I was dressed out. 782 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be Albert. Oh. But he's going back 783 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: to Missouri, so we'll worry about him next year. Yeah. Man, 784 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: so many tight ends in this draft, Like, if you're 785 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: looking for playmakers, the second and third round should be 786 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: loaded with tights of tons of the good group of 787 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: safeties too. Um, all right, let's let's get out of here. 788 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Look forward to catching up with everybody next week. You're 789 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna have the p BU You've got rhettin I believe 790 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: Sunday right to go over a little takeaway podcast which 791 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: will be released on Monday, and then we'll be down 792 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: there in Tampa for the East West game. I think 793 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a podcast down there, so um we'll 794 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: have all your all your reaction to these games as 795 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: well as a little preview there for some these all 796 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: star games coming up, so it should be fun. Anything 797 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: else you got, Buck, No, just it man, just working 798 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: on a notebook talking about we got right book. Frank 799 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Wright talking about play call and then how the Dallas 800 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys are built the right way to be a championship 801 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: roster for years to come. All right, good stuff, NFL 802 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Buckey Brooks. 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