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Speaker 1: There's been some comparisons made between you and Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, exciting. It's the Thursday, Thursday football later on,

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Speaker 1: though we want to hit on what's going on with

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Speaker 1: All I know is if you're in the personnel department

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Speaker 1: I think you're sneaky excited for a couple of reasons. DJ.

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Speaker 1: And in this business, we all have egos, right, we

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Speaker 1: looked at a college player and how he's grown and

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Speaker 1: matured as an NFL player. When you look at yourself

429
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Speaker 1: and you look at Pat Mahomes, do you see any

430
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Speaker 1: similarities at all? Yeah, definitely. Uh, he's a great player. Um.

431
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Speaker 1: I love watching him and I love just trying to

432
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Speaker 1: take you know, a little bit pieces of you know,

433
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Speaker 1: his game, just you know how he plays. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: he's playmaker, gets the job done. So you know, I

435
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Speaker 1: try and just do that to myself. Yeah. So, and

436
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Speaker 1: thinking about that because there's been some conversation. Terrific year

437
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Speaker 1: two years ago. Last year was was not the same.

438
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Speaker 1: You had a number of turnovers. Explain the differences and

439
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Speaker 1: maybe explain why the fall off your final season. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 1: I mean obviously the turnovers run up, um you know. Um,

441
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Speaker 1: like I just saying all the meetings, you know, I

442
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 1: felt like I was trying to do a little bit

443
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Speaker 1: too much out there. Um, you know, trying to force

444
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Speaker 1: some throws and some tighter windows that you know could

445
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Speaker 1: have hit the checkdown, could have you know, took off

446
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Speaker 1: a run. Um. So I just tried to do a

447
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,679
Speaker 1: little bit too much and force the ball. So so

448
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 1: that's that's really interesting because like the self awareness to

449
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Speaker 1: be able to kind of realize, like maybe I was

450
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Speaker 1: doing too much. Um. When you look at where you

451
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Speaker 1: want to improve and how you would like to play

452
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Speaker 1: as a pro, how do you take steps to kind

453
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Speaker 1: of correct some of that, not not put too much

454
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Speaker 1: on your own shoulders. Yeah, I mean it starts to

455
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Speaker 1: just learning what you need to improve on. Um. You

456
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Speaker 1: know that's something that I've been doing this whole process,

457
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Speaker 1: just trying to you know, seeing myself what I need

458
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Speaker 1: to get better at. So um uh, but I think

459
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Speaker 1: just consistency that's the main thing today. I mean, I

460
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Speaker 1: miss a couple of throws out there today, but um,

461
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Speaker 1: just trying to get better at that a little man.

462
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Speaker 1: It's all a part of the deal. Like we understand

463
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Speaker 1: how how the combine is, like you're going to different

464
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Speaker 1: receivers and the like. And then even going back to

465
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Speaker 1: your time and Utah State, like you had to just

466
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Speaker 1: so and thinking about that football adversity that you had

467
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Speaker 1: to endure. How's it made it made you better? How

468
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Speaker 1: will it make you a better problem? Yeah? I mean

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Speaker 1: that adversity in our face. You know, it's just I

470
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Speaker 1: think of it is just learning mistakes. Um, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: learning things that you know. I just got to you know,

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Speaker 1: evaluate it and learn from it. And no, I can't

473
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Speaker 1: make those same mistakes al right. Back is interesting you

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Speaker 1: you brought up the Mahomes comparison, um, and here he

475
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Speaker 1: is getting ready to make his first start against Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: it's so crazy, DJ. Like in in the scudding business,

477
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Speaker 1: we always do the compare contrast thing where we're try

478
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Speaker 1: and figure out which player has remind me of other

479
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Speaker 1: players from the past who've had success, and the comparison

480
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Speaker 1: with Jordan's Love and Pat Mahomes came up over and

481
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Speaker 1: over and over again. Part of that was due to

482
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Speaker 1: Pat mahomes success coming from Texas Tech, where you really

483
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Speaker 1: didn't know how it's going to pop. But then when

484
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Speaker 1: you see Pat Mahomes have that success, you'd look at

485
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Speaker 1: jordan Loves game some of the similar traits that Jordan

486
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Speaker 1: Love exhibited that Pat Mahomes exhibited in college, and you

487
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Speaker 1: began to imagine, if he goes right, this is what

488
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Speaker 1: Jordan's Love could be. And so it's more so having

489
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Speaker 1: that growth mindset, having an optimistic view on what a

490
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Speaker 1: prospect could be that led us to that comparison. But

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Speaker 1: now we get a chance to see how real and

492
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Speaker 1: valid are those comparisons when we see a guy make

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Speaker 1: his first start against the guy that we kind of

494
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Speaker 1: compared him to down the line. Yeah, so I think

495
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a couple of wild plays from him.

496
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Speaker 1: That's how he plays. He needs to string together the boring,

497
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Speaker 1: consistent place. That's that was his challenge coming out of college,

498
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Speaker 1: and that will be interesting to see in this game,

499
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Speaker 1: particularly how he does in that regard. All Right, we

500
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Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. Uh, this is one of our favorite

501
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Speaker 1: people have on the show. He's an absolute stud. He's

502
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Speaker 1: got Michigan State and the college football playoff right now. Um,

503
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Speaker 1: we'll see if they can finish up. They've got a

504
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: tough schedule here coming down the stretch, coming off a

505
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Speaker 1: big win against Michigan. We had a chance to catch

506
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Speaker 1: up with melt Tucker. We're gonna give you that interview

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Speaker 1: right after this. Alright, Buck excited he's here with us.

508
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Speaker 1: Coach mel Tucker, a good friend of the show, a

509
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Speaker 1: good longtime friend. Here. Coach, how are you doing man?

510
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Speaker 1: How how does the team look so far? I know

511
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Speaker 1: what the numbers are, I know where you're ranked and

512
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. How you feeling I'm doing well, man,

513
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Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for having me on. The team has been

514
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Speaker 1: very focused this week. Um. You know, we really just

515
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Speaker 1: focus on you know what's important right now. You know,

516
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Speaker 1: be where your feet are, you know, working to get better,

517
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Speaker 1: you know, each and every day. And I've been pleased

518
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Speaker 1: with our with our preparation as far this week. You know, coach,

519
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Speaker 1: I understand it. Like when you played a robbery game.

520
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Speaker 1: It's a big game. There are a lot of motions

521
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Speaker 1: that are tied into that, and I am just curious.

522
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Speaker 1: How are you able to get the team refocused after

523
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: such an emotional game that you have like that on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday. Yeah, well we are twenty for our rule,

525
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, when loser draw and then when it's time

526
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Speaker 1: to turn the page. You know, we turn the page

527
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Speaker 1: and we know that, uh, what's most important is what

528
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Speaker 1: we do next. You know, you're only as good as

529
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Speaker 1: your next game. And so UM, you know, we start

530
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Speaker 1: to prepare, prepare for our opponent. UM, and when we

531
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Speaker 1: intro perdue, I may make sure that our our entire

532
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Speaker 1: organization knows that this is a very very strong football team.

533
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Speaker 1: There's want some big games so far this year, and

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Speaker 1: they have our long history all the way back to

535
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Speaker 1: the fifties of beating ranked teams when they're when they're

536
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Speaker 1: unranked and we're on the road, and so UM, this UM,

537
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Speaker 1: this notion of of a trap game. You know, we

538
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: talked about that, UM, and you eliminate that when you

539
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: focus on what needs to be done. UM, you prepare,

540
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: you take everything you do up a notch, and you

541
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Speaker 1: know what you're getting yourself into. Coach. One of the things,

542
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: I know we talked about it before, UM, but you

543
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: went out and got some guys and brought them in

544
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Speaker 1: new through the transfer portal. I'm just curious, was there

545
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Speaker 1: a common thread that you were able to find and

546
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Speaker 1: the guys you brought in. It's obviously the mix has worked,

547
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Speaker 1: including obviously start running back. But was there something all

548
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: those guys had in common that you were looking for

549
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: when you brought him in. Yes, we wanted guys that

550
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Speaker 1: fit our culture and we have a culture of accountability,

551
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: attention to detail, sense of urgency, you know, unselfishness, and teamwork.

552
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: And so every player that we evaluate it, um, you know,

553
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: beyond there their athletic ability, you know, we wanted to

554
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Speaker 1: know like who are these guys as people? And you know,

555
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Speaker 1: what are their goals and how do they plan to

556
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Speaker 1: rest those goals? And are their values aligned with our

557
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Speaker 1: values as a program. And so um, those are the

558
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Speaker 1: players that we that we went after. Those are the

559
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Speaker 1: players that we were able to sign and get here

560
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Speaker 1: and so um that's why we were able to get

561
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Speaker 1: the buy in from the vast majority of our players

562
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: is because what they wanted aligned with what we what

563
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Speaker 1: we want and once they got here, um, they realized

564
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Speaker 1: that it wasn't just a recruiting spill. This is actually

565
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Speaker 1: how we live every day, which is our culture. You know,

566
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Speaker 1: coach Um, and listening to you in the run up

567
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Speaker 1: to some of the games, particularly the last game, I

568
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Speaker 1: heard you talk about Championship rounds and toughness and taking

569
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Speaker 1: people into the deep end. Are you a believer that

570
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Speaker 1: you can teach toughness or the guys that you bring

571
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: into the program already have to have that toughness buildings

572
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: out there. Now, I believe that you can enhance toughness

573
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and and and mental toughness and physical toughness. You know obviously, uh,

574
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Speaker 1: you know the players that we that we have in

575
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Speaker 1: our program, that there has to be intrinsic motivation and

576
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: there has to be um internal mental uh and physical toughness.

577
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Speaker 1: Those are traits that that you can recruit UM and

578
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: we look for that in players. But a coach's job

579
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: is to teach, motivate and develop players. And that's in

580
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: all areas. And so the way we train and in

581
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: in our in our off seats and conditioning program, uh,

582
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Speaker 1: you know, all through the summer in the fall camp,

583
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Speaker 1: you know, in the weight room are running our lifting

584
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Speaker 1: to what we practice, the way we meet, you know,

585
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Speaker 1: the language we use, what we talk. All of that

586
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Speaker 1: is about attention to detail, sensor urgency, you know, mental

587
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: and physical toughness, resiliency with a relentless attitude, which is

588
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: high velocity and it's NonStop, and that's the way we

589
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: need to play. Coach, I'm curious with the NFL background, UM,

590
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: And then you look at college. It used to be

591
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: when you started out coaching the NFL, as the season

592
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: went along, you're back back off, back off, let's keep

593
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: guys fresh, get them to Sunday. Now I think in

594
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the NFL it's basically once the season starts, you backed

595
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: off and you're just trying to get guys this Sunday.

596
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: How is it? How are you approaching that with your

597
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: team as you kind of go into the later portion

598
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Speaker 1: of the season. It's important for all of our players

599
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: to be fresh and ready on game day. And so,

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00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, we believe in the science. We have a

601
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: sports scientist here. You know, we use the GPS units,

602
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: we monitor the player loads, UM. We factor into factor

603
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: in nutrition, rest and recovery. You know, we work hand

604
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: in hand with our sports science folks, our trainers UH,

605
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: the our strength and conditioning coaches. UM. We work together

606
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: to make sure that we're getting the players what they

607
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: need in terms of the preparation mentally and physically. But

608
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: we have to make sure that they're fresh and ready

609
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: to go for the games because at the end of

610
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: the day, we all know on game that you have

611
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: to be at your best, you know, coaching and being

612
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: at your best. You're playing a conference that is known

613
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: a long time for physicality, running the football, great defenses.

614
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: When you're building your team, are you building your team

615
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: with your focus solely on the big ten or do

616
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: you also build it with an eye on eventually we

617
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: want to be a team that participates in the playoffs,

618
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: and we need to make sure that we are built

619
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Speaker 1: to deal with the other teams that we potentially could

620
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: face in the tournament. Yeah, we're building our our football

621
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Speaker 1: team to win a national championship, you know, That's that's

622
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: the goal. And we know what those teams are going

623
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Speaker 1: to look like in the playoffs. We don't know who

624
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: they're going to be, but based on experience, we know

625
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: what those teams are gonna look like. They're going to

626
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: be big, fast, strong, They're gonna have three to five

627
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: different difference makers on each side of the ball, and

628
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to control the line scrimmage, you know,

629
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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And so as we uh,

630
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: as we developed our team here and as we recruit,

631
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: that's that's the goal. We have to have that type

632
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: of team. That's what we work towards each and every day.

633
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Coach I know, Uh, Coach Staban celebrated birthday the other

634
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: day and you talked about knowing what it looks like.

635
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Obviously your time on those staffs with him, you've seen it. Um.

636
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Speaker 1: What was the lesson you took from him? Maybe maybe

637
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: from a leadership standpoint. I'm sure you've learned plenty of

638
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: football along the way, but just from a leadership standpoint,

639
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: what you learned from Coach Staban. Yeah, Coach Saman is

640
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: never gonna ask you to do anything uh as as

641
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: a as a coach that he's not willing to do himself.

642
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: That he's not doing himselves. Uh. He is a very

643
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: hard guy to keep up with you, No, because he

644
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: works at a at a fever space. Um, whether it's

645
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: recruiting or excess and ohs, whether it's you know, player development. Um.

646
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: You know, he always seems to be, you know, two

647
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: or three steps ahead. Um. And so he and he

648
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: never wastes I mean, he never waste a minute in

649
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: a day. And uh. So that's that's one of the

650
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: things that I learned from from from Coach Saban. You know,

651
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: just to way, just the way he he organizes his day,

652
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: the way he attacks everything that he does, in the

653
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: way that he leaves by example. You know, coach is

654
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: funny because people always ask you about coach Saban, but

655
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: the guy that you played for, Barry Everest, I believe

656
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: he's one of the underrated great coaches in college football.

657
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: So imposing that same question your time at Wisconsin playing

658
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: in the coach Everesz, what did you learn? What lessons

659
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: have you been able to apply with your own team? Yeah,

660
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: Coach Albretz as as it was a great coach, a

661
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: great mentor, and I was on I was in his

662
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: first recruiting class at Wisconsin. We were wanted to him

663
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: my freshman year. And coach Alvarez, he always talked about

664
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: not flinching, you know, don't flinch. And I saw him no,

665
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: day in and day out, work like tires, tirelessly to

666
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: build that program. And even through the Lane years, you know,

667
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: one and ten, five and six, five or six until

668
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: the Rosebowt year and year four, he never let up.

669
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: There was never a doubt in his mind. There was

670
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: there was never any doubt in our minds that that

671
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: we would get there we work through adversity. Um. And

672
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: we would never flinch. Um. And that's something that you

673
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: know when I when I when I think about coach Alrez,

674
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I think about a guy just going to stand in

675
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: the face of the adversity. No, he's gonna believe in

676
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Um. And and he's there's never gonna

677
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: be a doubt and he's never gonna flinsh coach, I

678
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: want to know a little bit about your running back.

679
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker has had an unbelievable year. I think everbody

680
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: say he's probably the front runner for the Heisman Trophy

681
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: right now. Um, what do we not know about him?

682
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: We see the greatness, we see how well he's playing,

683
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: But what do we not know about him? Whe one

684
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: of the greatest human beings that you'll ever come across.

685
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just a stellar human being. He's very, very humble,

686
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: extremely hard working. It's unselfish and you can't hardly get

687
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: him to take credit for for what's going on. He

688
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: always wants to give us the credit to his office,

689
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: A line as tight ends as the series Black Form

690
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: in the coaching staff, the program, the culture. You know,

691
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: every it's not about him, um. And that's and that's uh,

692
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: that that's that's refreshing and it's inspiring to see a

693
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: young man with so much talent UM just want to

694
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, put the work in each and every day, UM.

695
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: And to see the success that he's having. But to

696
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: see him being grounded UM and unselfish, UM and humble

697
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: you know all the way through is the same guy

698
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: every single day. I think that's extraordinary, you know. Coach

699
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: and listening to him to talk, he talked about how

700
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: the guys welcomed him in and how is the easy

701
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: transition because your team just welcomed him in. You've talked

702
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: about the culture, but how does it make you feel

703
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: when you hear your players talk about the team embracing

704
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: someone new and fitting into the culture. Is that the

705
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: ultimate goal that the culture welcomes those that are like them?

706
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: It does, and that's that's a to me, that's a

707
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: championship culture and it's something that UM, it's not automatic. Uh,

708
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: it's a it's always a work on progress, you know,

709
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: every day, but it UM when you have an environment

710
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: where there's connection um, and people can have mutual respect

711
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: and everyone knows that it's that UM. You know, we're

712
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: all working towards a common goal and everyone's buying into

713
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: something that's bigger than themselves. Then of course, when you

714
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: have like minded individuals where your values are aligned, you know,

715
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: of course you're going to embrace uh those people. You

716
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: know you're gonna embrace that person. You're going to connect

717
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: and you're gonna find a way to to to to

718
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: help each other out. And that's the type of team

719
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: that we have. That's the type of locker room that

720
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: we have. So whether you're a freshman or you're in

721
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: grad transfer or or an undergrad transfer, when you when

722
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: you come here, you pass our evaluation and you just

723
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: you've decided to sign up with us, there's not going

724
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: to be sharp elbows, uh in the locker room. We

725
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: have a family atmosphere here, um, and we're all about

726
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: a common goal and that's being the very very best

727
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: that we can be. Coach, you've been super generous with

728
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: your time. Just cup more and what we'll set you

729
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: free here. I want to tap in though your defensive

730
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: mindset and and you have a reputation obviously for what

731
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: you've done on that side of the ball in the league.

732
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: Right now in the NFL, we're seeing it all over

733
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: the place where everybody's playing a two high shell. Now

734
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: everybody is so obsessed with limiting explosives. Um, and we're

735
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: seeing teams you don't they just flat out don't care

736
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: about yards anymore. You want to rush the ball for

737
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: four or five yards, they don't. They don't care. Um,

738
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: just trying to put a lid on everything. Does that?

739
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm just curious from your standpoint because you I feel

740
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: like you lose a little bit of your stinger and

741
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: when you're not ever really attacking, your kind of just

742
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: sitting back on your heels. But what have you seen

743
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: in kind of the evolution with defense, at least at

744
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: the NFL level, where you're seeing an obsession which is

745
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: taking away explosives. Yeah, well, you know obviously you want

746
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: to make them, make them go the long hard way. UM.

747
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: And you don't explosives. Uh you know really um, you know,

748
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: demor demoralizer defense um and and and that's and that's

749
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: how you lose games. But for me, UM, it all

750
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: starts up front. You know, you have to make people

751
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: one dimensional and you have to stop the run. Um.

752
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: And that's first and foremost. You gotta be to set

753
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: the edge and build a wall up front. And if

754
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: you can eliminate the run game, make make offenses one dimensional,

755
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: then I believe you have a better better chance to

756
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: hold them to a low, too low numbers UM. Depending

757
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: on the teams that you play. You know, sometimes it's

758
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: not about yards, you know, it's about points um, and

759
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: and and uh and then and it's always about points. UM.

760
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: But I do believe in holding people to low numbers

761
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: in the run game and in the past game. You

762
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: gotta be able to get all the foot on third

763
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: downs to you know, expose yourself to long drives and

764
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: things like that. UM. But you know, as much as

765
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: the game has evolved, you know, on the overall and

766
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: on the defense side of all, you know, I still

767
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: believe um that you know, great defense, UM is the

768
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: goal and the play great defense. You hold people to

769
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: low numbers in the run game, in the past game, UM.

770
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: And and that's critically important. And you know, we're work

771
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: in progress. I feel like that we're that we're getting better. UM.

772
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: But you know, those those those high numbers UM, you know,

773
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: to me or not, are not very appealing to me.

774
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: It's not something I'd like to see. I wanted to

775
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: old school defensive coach with dealing with that because there's

776
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: some guys up the NFL level like, oh, I don't

777
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: care about yrds or whatever, but I believe and they

778
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: only got three points. We held on the three point.

779
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: They're just eight eight minutes of the game. But I

780
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: believe you're all out of rhythm on offense. It's just interesting, man,

781
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: there's something to that. So coach, I want to leave

782
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: in your old defensive back mentality and thinking about that

783
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: because you talked about the stars in the trenches. But

784
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: when you think about defensive backs and coverage, what is

785
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: the ideal coverage or things that you would like to

786
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: do if you had to perfect players on the perimeter. Well,

787
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: what what you like to be able to do is

788
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: you like to be able to make sure coverages. Um,

789
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: you like to be able to you know, play single

790
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: high and have you know, uh base man base zone

791
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: and then your your pressures out of it, your open

792
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: side pressures, you uh close side pressures and your press

793
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: up themental out of single high. And then you like

794
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: to be able to do the same thing out of

795
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: split safety, you know, and if you can mix two

796
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: or three split safety coverages in which is very hard

797
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: to do um and uh and make your single high coverages. UM.

798
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Then you know, and and they all relatively look the same. Uh,

799
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: then you're really cooking with gas. But it's really really

800
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: difficult uh to play single high and also be ficient

801
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: and playing sports safety coverage. UM. And it's really hard

802
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: to play man and also play zone. To be a

803
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: great defense, in my opinion, you have to be able

804
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: to do do all of those things. And that's where uh,

805
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: that's where Scottie h does and the defail staff they

806
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: do an amazing job making sure that the players uh

807
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: understand our concepts. Um. We're doing what our players can

808
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: do and not overloading them. But we have enough single

809
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: hosp but safety pressure base uh to be comprehensive enough

810
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: to to to handle any type of offense uh that

811
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: we face. Uh. That's the that's that's the challenge. You know,

812
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: have enough, um, not have too much so your players

813
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: can play fast. We'll coach you guys, are coaching your

814
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: butts off, you're playing your butts off. You're having a

815
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: great year. UM. I know one thing. The two guys

816
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: you're talking to today or the two least surprise guys,

817
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: because we've got to know you over the years and

818
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: know what you're about. So keep up the great work.

819
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate you carving out some time for us today

820
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: and thank you so much. You guys be saying, go Green,

821
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: He's the best buck. Uh, it doesn't get better than

822
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: melt Tucker. I know. I'm sure people in Baton Rouge

823
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles were very interested in that interview. Um, here, Tucker,

824
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: I would imagine he will have options at the end

825
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: of the year. Nothing wrong with Michigan State, He's already

826
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: he's already built that thing quick. Um, nothing wrong with

827
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: staying there and continuing on. But I'm sure he'll, uh,

828
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: he'll have a lot of attention and a lot of

829
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: offers if he if he would choose to do so.

830
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: Put it that way, Yeah, I mean, he's certainly is

831
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: gonna have his fair share. But man, I just think

832
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: about the situation that he has in Michigan State and

833
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: how perfect it is for him, obviously having grown up

834
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, having played in Big ten country, having

835
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: always having already put together a team that appears to

836
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: be ready to compete for Big ten title, maybe even

837
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: a national title. Man, that's hard for us to go

838
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: somewhere else and start that process all over again. But

839
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: when you win like he has been winning, you become

840
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: a very very popular man when it comes down to

841
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: feel those head coaching jobs. Look at some of the

842
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: college gigs he's had right out of college you mentioned

843
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: during that interview, you know, having played for Barry Alvarez

844
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. He was a G at Michigan State. UM,

845
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: he also spent time at l s U was a

846
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: dB coach. I believe they won the national championship I

847
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: think during that year around that time, yep. And then

848
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: you had Ohio State or that was the Trustle years

849
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: and he was big time, big time recruiter, UM coaching

850
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: DBS and then was a Code d C there in

851
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: two thousand four, so I think you know, another national

852
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Speaker 1: championship in that in that area, UM you had. Then

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00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: he goes in the NFL with with the Browns. He's

854
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: where I where I was with coach he was with

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Speaker 1: the Jags. He was a DC there. UM he was

856
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: an interim head coach there with the Jags, and he

857
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: was the Bears DC. Then he goes to Alabama wins

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Speaker 1: big there, uh with coach Saban, Then to Georgia with

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Speaker 1: Kirby and then he gets the head coaching job at

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00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: Colorado and then onto Michigan State. So it's been a uh,

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Speaker 1: it's been an interesting ride for him. I think he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's outstanding. I think you can tell by

863
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: talking to me, just such a great dude. And you

864
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: can see how he's a dynamic cruder too. He's just authentic.

865
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: That's who he is. It is who he is in DJ.

866
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Speaker 1: Like here, here's the lesson that I've learned from watching

867
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Speaker 1: Mail Taker's Mail Tucker's career is when he went from

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Speaker 1: being in the National Football League to going back to

869
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: college where because he wanted to be in college and

870
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: he was able to one work back with Nick Saban.

871
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Then he goes with Kirby Smart to Georgia, so he

872
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: has seen what the machine looks like and he is

873
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: being able to take the I guess the blueprint from

874
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: building machine at Alabama and Georgia because remember Kirby Smart

875
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: built that thing in a hurry at Georgia. He's been

876
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: able to take that and put it together with his

877
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Speaker 1: own way and the influences that he's had with great coaches.

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Speaker 1: Not only saving, but you talked about trust, Soll Alvarez,

879
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: even Marc Antonio, Um, he just he just has it.

880
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: And what I do is when I when I look

881
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: at him, I see a guy who is very confident

882
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: in his plan and what he's about. And I think

883
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: that translates wherever. But because he got to going at

884
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Michigan State, I think maybe you day there partly to

885
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: a little more money. Get it going, you keep it going. Yeah, No,

886
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: I look, I can't argue against that. He's got He's

887
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: got a great set up there right now. They've kind

888
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: of it's hard to build the machine. He's kind of

889
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: quickly built the machine. Then you keep it rolling. You

890
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: gotta go. You gotta go to l s U. You

891
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: gotta go to USC, you gotta you gotta start from

892
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: scratch and kind of rebuild it. But the good, you know,

893
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: the selling point with those two schools is you know,

894
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: we can keep you in the national Championship hunt every

895
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: year and uh and you're kind of one of the

896
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: big dogs there when it comes to walking in the

897
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: home of any recruit in the country. So he he

898
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: have a good decision to make. And I don't know

899
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: if there is a wrong decision anyway you look at it.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add here Buck before we

901
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: get out of here. No, man, just a great just

902
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: a great podcast to be able to talk about Jordan Love.

903
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You visit that ahead of his big game and didn't

904
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: talk to Meil Tucker. I mean, man, that's almost like

905
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: Christmas time. We gotta might peak too soon before he's

906
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: the best. I do want to remind everybody tonight Thursday

907
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: night football, go to twitch dot tv slash move the sticks.

908
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: It is so much fun. We gotta blast. I think

909
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: that video we pot listed last week after that interception

910
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: by Russell Douglas got a little mini viral there. I

911
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: think like a couple hundred thousand views of people, uh

912
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: enjoying our reaction to the game. But it's very interactive,

913
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: you guys. We have a chat so you can, you know,

914
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: pop questions on there, will ask you questions. So it's

915
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of like the man if you if you've seen

916
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: the Manning Cast, like the Manning Cast, but it's it's interactive.

917
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Speaker 1: You guys are very interesting. We can communicate with you

918
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: and it's a good core group of people that come

919
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: each and every week, so come join the party. It's

920
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hopefully I can have better reactions.

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Speaker 1: It was a half of better reactions. I'll make sure

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Speaker 1: that I'm dialed and locked and loaded. I'm able to

924
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: give you that kind of stuff. I'll make sure I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm fully caffeinated. Um, that's why stuff. I'm convinced that's

926
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Speaker 1: why it was so popular, because people were cracking up.

927
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 1: Everybody thought Bucky had money on the game. He didn't

928
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: have money on the game. He was just so dumbfounded

929
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Speaker 1: by what had happened and so shocked that he just couldn't.

930
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: He couldn't. You were like, uh, what is it called

931
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: catatonic state? State? You're out that? That was a lot

932
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: to think about. Tonight should be fun. Maybe we get

933
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Speaker 1: another one of those moments here. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us today. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys hanging with us. Thanks to again to melt

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Speaker 1: Tucker for joining us. We'll catch you next time. Right here,

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Speaker 1: I move the sticks