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Speaker 1: Welcome to Playmakers. I'm Haley Elwood. We're joining me today

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Speaker 1: is Laura Oakman. Laura is a friend, a mentor, someone

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Speaker 1: I just wildly admire. She's great at what she does

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Speaker 1: for the NFL on Fox, equally as great with her

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Speaker 1: program Galvanize, which we'll get to. But this is great

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Speaker 1: because she and I never really have conversations like this,

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Speaker 1: so I'm really excited. So, Laura, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I miss you? I see your face,

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Speaker 1: even if it's virtually I'm so that we're getting this conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too. I mean that's the crazy thing about twenty twenty, right,

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Speaker 1: but I know you did something really cool with Galvaniyes,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll kind of talk about that later

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Speaker 1: in terms of just being creative. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the cool thing though about twenty twenty is

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what zoom was a year ago, and

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Speaker 1: here we are. Isn't it amazing? How like that is now?

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Speaker 1: Just that's a verb, that's a now like that that

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Speaker 1: word is so ingrained in us and a year ago

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Speaker 1: we would have been like, is that FaceTime? Is that? Scott? Like?

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Speaker 1: What is that? But do you think if there was

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Speaker 1: to be a winner of twenty twenty, which I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's many, but Zoom would be one. Zoom is

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Speaker 1: definitely high up on the list for sure. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it allows this, which is wonderful. Yes, yes, which

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Speaker 1: is so great. And look, okay, so I thought of

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Speaker 1: you last night. I was watching Monday Night football. Lisa

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Speaker 1: Salter has had a report on Frank or who I

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Speaker 1: know is someone that you admire and have covered a

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Speaker 1: lot in your career. She talks about his longevity in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and he said, at this point in his career,

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Speaker 1: he's playing with knowledge. You have spent over three decades

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Speaker 1: in this industry? How are you now playing with knowledge?

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Speaker 1: I love that, And anytime I can be lumped into

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Speaker 1: a sentence with Frank Gore, I'm like, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think. Something Frank told me this year was how

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Speaker 1: before it was the doubters. You know that he was

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Speaker 1: always like, who's saying? Who saying something bad about me?

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Speaker 1: And that feeds me And at some point you just

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Speaker 1: stop caring about that, and that you're always as a

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Speaker 1: woman in this business, as you know, you spend such

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Speaker 1: a chunk of your time proving proving, proving, and it's exhausting.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got to prove I know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. I got to prove that you can trust me.

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Speaker 1: I've got to prove that you know, there's just so

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Speaker 1: much and then at one point you kind of go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't have to prove I belong. I just belong. And

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Speaker 1: so now probably you know, like what a player would

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Speaker 1: tell us, I don't have that inner dialogue in my

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Speaker 1: head anymore. I just get to be instead of think

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Speaker 1: about how I want to be. I'm not worrying about

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Speaker 1: what other people think about me. I'm just doing my job.

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Speaker 1: And it's really lovely to be at a place in life,

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Speaker 1: not just in work, but in life where you finally

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Speaker 1: have that confidence, because for the longest time, the narrative

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Speaker 1: in my head was everybody else's. You know that maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about, Maybe I am

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Speaker 1: a girl who shouldn't talk sports, maybe no one does

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Speaker 1: want to hear what I have to say, and so

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Speaker 1: that becomes your voice. And then at some point your

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Speaker 1: voice becomes the like you've got this, like you're great

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Speaker 1: at this. Look at you, you know, look at you,

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Speaker 1: look at you. Almost three decades in this business, and

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Speaker 1: so I think that's it where you start playing with

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Speaker 1: knowledge and comfort in your knowledge and your preparation in

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Speaker 1: your relationships. And I think that was probably one of

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Speaker 1: the best things about getting older. I don't almost say

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Speaker 1: about the horrible things about aging, and I don't subscribe

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Speaker 1: to that. I don't talk all day about why it's

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Speaker 1: good to get all older for a lot of reasons,

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Speaker 1: but that's one of the biggest ones is you're finally

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Speaker 1: comfortable in yourself. I love that you mentioned just kind

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Speaker 1: of not caring. You had said something else recently where

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it you kind of just stopped having goals,

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Speaker 1: And it reminded me of a conversation I had with

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Speaker 1: Amy Trask a few weeks ago where she talked about

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Speaker 1: she stopped with five year plans and ten year plans

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Speaker 1: that being said, should we stop putting timetables on things?

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Speaker 1: And in a year like twenty twenty, does it sort

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Speaker 1: But I think yes, in terms of timetables, I just

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Speaker 1: know that I was in such a hurry when I started,

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Speaker 1: and it was just a lot of boxes to check,

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Speaker 1: and so it was all right, I want one year here,

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Speaker 1: I want one year here. Why am I not here?

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Speaker 1: And everything was looking ahead, and now I look back

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Speaker 1: at my journey, I'm like, gosh, that one year in Montgomery,

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Speaker 1: Alabama that I was counting down the days, you know,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five of them. That was huge

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Speaker 1: for me. That was huge for my growth as a person,

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Speaker 1: and those huge as my growth as a broadcaster. And

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Speaker 1: I wish I didn't wish it away. And I wish

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Speaker 1: instead of looking at where I wanted to go next,

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Speaker 1: I would have, you know, to use a coach's quote,

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Speaker 1: just I wish I would have been where my feet were.

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Speaker 1: And I just know when I stopped looking at boxes

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Speaker 1: things instead of the next box. All these things I

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Speaker 1: never saw in a million years started happening. You know,

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Speaker 1: like now, if you would have said to me, what's

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Speaker 1: your five year plan ten years ago or five years ago,

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing that I'm doing now would have been on that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really thankful that I wasn't looking. So I

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Speaker 1: me up? Not this light that just came up now little,

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Speaker 1: but I started really thinking about instead of what's somewhere

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Speaker 1: I started thinking about what am I attracting? What do

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Speaker 1: started happening, and it took me in this direction instead

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Speaker 1: me here, but this direction really truly changed my life

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Speaker 1: and showed me how much smarter I was than I knew,

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Speaker 1: how how much bigger I was. And as a woman

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Speaker 1: in this business, we get put in that little box,

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Speaker 1: and so I only thought about the box. Well, what's

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Speaker 1: another woman done, you know, let me look at all

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Speaker 1: her boxes. And so I know, now the great thing

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Speaker 1: I think the hard part too. Now in this world

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Speaker 1: we're so used to instant gratification. We're so used to

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Speaker 1: things happening right away. We're on social media all the time,

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Speaker 1: so when we don't get something that we want, it

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Speaker 1: feels like we've taken ten steps back when maybe we

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Speaker 1: weren't ready for it ultimately under And also it's I

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Speaker 1: so many women and men, but mostly galvanize all these

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Speaker 1: but it's always will this opportunity passed me by, and

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Speaker 1: though I thought it was mine, and you did, it

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Speaker 1: and I can wait, maybe not so patiently, but I

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Speaker 1: and compare it to your timetable, when there's a great

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Speaker 1: So I do wish that I wish instead of going, gosh,

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Speaker 1: wish it was more, Well, I'm not going to the

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Speaker 1: next place because obviously I'm more to learn here. So

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Speaker 1: let me while i'm here, let me look at how

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Speaker 1: else I can grow. What am I not seeing? And

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Speaker 1: can I grow in this? Because that's going to get

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Speaker 1: you to the next opportunity. And with apologies because you're

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Speaker 1: see them right now in the background. They're They're great.

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Speaker 1: We have not had any animals on Playmakers this season,

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Speaker 1: so this is a first and and hey week ten,

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Speaker 1: better late than never at this point. Well please, and

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Speaker 1: it's cash. I love it. I love it so much.

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Speaker 1: that is something I try to practice every day. I

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Speaker 1: How am I going to stay this whole entire weekend?

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Speaker 1: How am I going to navigate this empty stadium? We're

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Speaker 1: stadium with fans, I fire that every cliche is so

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Speaker 1: true about again, be where your feet are. Sorry, if

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Speaker 1: You've become such an amazing voice for women in sports,

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Speaker 1: on camera, off camera, on the field, off the field,

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Speaker 1: on the rink, whatever you want to call it, wherever

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Speaker 1: mean to be in that role? Now? Everything? Like, without exaggeration,

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Speaker 1: it means everything. And no, it's just it was never

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Speaker 1: and my journey and my proving and where I'm going,

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Speaker 1: and so it was just it's a very selfish career.

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Speaker 1: next place. And if I wasn't happy there or great,

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Speaker 1: galmanized like she was the original Galmanizer. So my mom

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00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: was doing it long before it was anything. But I

430
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: think I think, I think, yeah, I think that's where,

431
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: very proudly i'd become her. I love that. So we

432
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: talk about twenty twenty. We talk about sort of the

433
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: craziness that this year has brought. Normally you do boot camps.

434
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: This year you shifted to a virtual format and you

435
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 1: actually did a really great series I believe it's still

436
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: continuing called Who Did Not Do, where you paired reporters

437
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: with professionals. I got to do one of them. It

438
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: was great, it was awesome. How special was that for you?

439
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: And has really hit you? I mean you talked about

440
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: the thousands of girls who now do this, but just

441
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: the magnitude of what it once was to where it

442
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: is now now like it's like, I mean, well, if

443
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: I said it didn't hit me, I would mean I

444
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: don't see it, and I do, so so it doesn't.

445
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: So yes, So it's hit me in terms of there's

446
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: moments where I'm so overwhelmed by it. And it might

447
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: be as simple as a birthday and all of a sudden,

448
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: my phone, you know, all of a sudden goes crazy

449
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: and I'm hit with a wave of love from all

450
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: these young women, or something wonderful happens, or something happens

451
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: in my life, and I feel all that and that's

452
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. And you know how like we all say,

453
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: like when if you're at a funeral and you always say,

454
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: I wish I would have said this to somebody when

455
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: they were alive, or I hope they knew, you know,

456
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: how people thought about them. And I said it a

457
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: lot with my mom. But I feel like that I'm

458
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: there's certain days where I'll always say to my husband, like,

459
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: how blessed am I like that I know how these

460
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: young women feel. And there's days that that man that

461
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: carries me, especially twenty twenty. But I always tell my husband,

462
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: I think if you've lost apparent young you always feel

463
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: like you're going to your I'll be going to follow suit.

464
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: And I'm now my age, the age my mom passed away,

465
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: so I'm very aware of the fragility of getting older

466
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: in life. But I always say to my husband, you know,

467
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: God forbid, if anything happens, just how galvanizers get up

468
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: and talk about like that's it, Like that's all I need,

469
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 1: And I feel like, how lucky am I? Because he

470
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have to say. I wonder if Laura knew they

471
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: felt like this about her, Like I know that's how

472
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: they feel. And and while not being a mother, I

473
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: really do feel like I get that feeling all the

474
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: time from them. So I'm lucky. Everyone always you know this,

475
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: Like everyone always says to me, like, what do you

476
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: what do the girls get out of Galvanize? And I

477
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: can talk about that for ten minutes what I hope

478
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: they get. But if you say what do you get

479
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: out of Galvanize, I'm like, oh, forget it, Like I

480
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: don't think they get the magnitude of what I get

481
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: from that. What was it? Also like just getting the

482
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: response from the industry professionals. I mean, you had I

483
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: told you, I reached out to you, and I was like,

484
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: thanks for allowing me to do this because I'm definitely

485
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: not on the same way all as Rich Eysen or

486
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Joe Buck or any of them. Stopped it right there,

487
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: but but come on, I mean, but to have men

488
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: women people in this industry, you know, maybe not even

489
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: on camera, but but amazing professionals of what they do,

490
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: just to want to be part of it, I know

491
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: that was another I keep saying overwhelming, but it was.

492
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: And I the way that we got the number was

493
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: there was like a week where I just was like,

494
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: who wants to do this? And that's wonderful because you

495
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: know how intimate the boot camps are, you know, but

496
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't let more than I mean two usually women

497
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: in and so it's the hardest thing about boot camps

498
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: is telling all these other women know. And so this

499
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: felt really good because it was like, come on in,

500
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: you don't have to travel, there's no cost involved, like

501
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: if you want to be in, go So there was

502
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: a two week period I think that it was just

503
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, come on in. And there was one hundred

504
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: and nine reporters. I swear, Haley I thought about when

505
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: I first thought I was going to do this, I

506
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: was like twenty five, Like I'll just do a series

507
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: for an helpful weeks, and it just kept getting bigger

508
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: and bigger, and I stop did one hundred and nine

509
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: because that's how many reporters there were. But no joke,

510
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: there were twenty incredible people that reached out and they

511
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: were like I really liked to do this, where I

512
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: was like, God, I'm so embarrassed, I'm about to say

513
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: this but we're good, We're cool. But it was overwhelming

514
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: on both sides. One to have one hundred and nine

515
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: women in two weeks ago. I want to be a

516
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: part of this, and to have the caliber of human

517
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: beings that said absolutely, I want to do this, I

518
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: want to make time for this was really awesome. Again,

519
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: it's just the things. That's the stuff that I will

520
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: be so grateful for. And I am so grateful. And

521
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: when people talk to me about, you know, the highlight

522
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: reels I play my head about my career, I'm just

523
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: not thinking about games I covered or about events that

524
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: I was at. That's the stuff that like, I really

525
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: think about and that really sustains me in terms of

526
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: my growth as as a human being, you know, like

527
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: that stuff that's it's wonderful. Yeah. And then lastly, Laura,

528
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: we'll tie it back to the Chargers really quick. You

529
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: have done boot camps with them. You actually he did

530
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: one way back in the day. I remember in San

531
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: Diego watching you in the group sort of you know,

532
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: tool around. I don't want to say that sounds very casual,

533
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: but but over at Chargers Park you've done them up

534
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: here in La these last couple of years. I know

535
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: that you did a virtual one this year. What can

536
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: you say about the organization and just how welcoming it

537
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: has been to allow the group in the building year

538
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: after year. How incredible is that? Like I love Like

539
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: when you said you play a small, small part of Galanize,

540
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: I was like, do not do not do that, but

541
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: that little do this like you are the highlight of Galvanized. Um.

542
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: It It's funny because it almost feels like I have

543
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: to say the right things right, because it's like, okay,

544
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: now let me say good things about the Chargers. Yeah,

545
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: and yet I can't say this enough, like they're incredible.

546
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: Arthur High Tower, who you know, Anthony Land who also

547
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: opened it up. But again this was this was long

548
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: ago in San Diego when it was also opened up.

549
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: But um but Arthur High Tower has literally given me

550
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: the rookies, right, and so it's not just bringing in

551
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: twenty five women, it's hey, can you give me your

552
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: rookie class and we're going to train them together. So

553
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, Arthur High Tower, they have to also be

554
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: like not just we're letting all these women in, but

555
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: we trust, we trust you with our guys, and there's

556
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: something so special every time we do a Chargers camp,

557
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: the guys buy in, and it starts with the caliber

558
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: of the guys, and it starts with who they are.

559
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: They buy in. There's such there's such pros, there's such gentlemen.

560
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: They they just jump in so quickly, and I know

561
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: it has been one of the highlights every every boot

562
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: Camp season is that's the camp that's going to fill

563
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: up one of you know, the quickest. It's just you

564
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: guys open up your building to us, and so there's

565
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: so much growth in that, there's so much joy in that,

566
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: and it's just it's amazing. So I can't say enough

567
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: how much I appreciate Coach Lynn for allowing us in,

568
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: Arthur for for mapping out the whole program, and for

569
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: you obviously helping and always making sure that you're available

570
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: even on days off to come in and say hello

571
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: to all the women. Well, I appreciate it. I look

572
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: forward to it every year, I tell you, I mean,

573
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: and I tell this to the groups too. I get

574
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: just as much out of it as they do. I

575
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: miss actually this year even finding out those stories that

576
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: they get from the rookies of you know, it's hard,

577
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, you can't talk to thirty guys sometimes and

578
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: twenty two guys. And when you're in that room and

579
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: you have these women be able to just in such

580
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: a short amount of time find out these really interesting

581
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: things about these guys on a deeper level, you take

582
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: that away and I just I'm so in awe of

583
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: it and I love it, and hopefully, hopefully, fingers crossed,

584
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: we can get to a place maybe next year where

585
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: we can do this in person and we can have

586
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: you guys back in and we can see each other

587
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: in that sense, I hope. So it's like even saying that,

588
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: I just want to cry and like itself. But yes,

589
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: if we had a glass of wine and here's to that.

590
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: But guys, that's one of the lovely things about this

591
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: is in the old days, as of twenty nineteen, little Base,

592
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: you know how it'd be like I hope to see you,

593
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: and it was such a pleasantry or formality, And now

594
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: it's like, sister, I really hope to see you, like

595
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: like I really hope. Like at this point, at least,

596
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: it's November and it's not March anymore, even though it

597
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: feels like a giant continuation of that. But yeah, no,

598
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: really really really hope to see you eventually. Thank you

599
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: for having me. Anytime with you is wonderful time. I

600
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: so appreciate you. Thanks Laura,