Speaker 1: Tuesday's your new favorite day of the week. I love that.
Speaker 2: Welcome Awkward Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Brooke and Jeffrey of course Second Date podcast.
Speaker 3: But today is always a little special with our Awkward
Speaker 3: Tuesday phone call. And all I'll say is one of
Speaker 3: our listeners dabbled in workplace romance and I'm definitely backfired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, backfired.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So hey, thank you for all the comments on last
Speaker 3: week's Awkward Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We've got so many. Yeah, you guys love it and
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Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 3: Sarah Herbie wrote, Oh my god, thanks for posting this
Speaker 3: so fast. I heard the first half of my way
Speaker 3: to work yesterday and was excited to hear the rest
Speaker 3: of it, which I always forget that a lot of
Speaker 3: podcast listeners listen to part of us on the radio
Speaker 3: on their commune.
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Speaker 3: Matt Bright just simply said that was absolutely brutal, which
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Speaker 5: I think that.
Speaker 6: Describes a lot of all we have, brutal.
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Speaker 6: It's awkward.
Speaker 5: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 7: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. For years, I would always
Speaker 7: get the best office gossip from the head of our
Speaker 7: HR department. She would tell me all of the dirt
Speaker 7: about everybody here.
Speaker 6: I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm not sure
Speaker 6: why they let her go.
Speaker 1: Wait, she get you dirt.
Speaker 6: Oh, she's give me dirt.
Speaker 3: Took about best, but apparently she was talking about.
Speaker 7: Me to Oh, I know some stuff about you. But look,
Speaker 7: certain work issues are too awkward to bring to HR.
Speaker 7: Then you got to take the elevator all the way
Speaker 7: down to the basement of morality and be honest.
Speaker 1: HR is only there to protect the company, not protecting.
Speaker 6: And we're I'm able to protect anybody.
Speaker 7: That's why you can always tell us whatever's going on
Speaker 7: in your life, which is why our listener Dave has
Speaker 7: reached out with a work problem too scandalous for H.
Speaker 6: Dave, welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Thank you guys.
Speaker 3: Are you second guessing your decision after that intro?
Speaker 4: Well, I have a really awkward situation and I really
Speaker 4: didn't want to do it on the radio, but I
Speaker 4: don't know what else to do.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 6: We go.
Speaker 7: Whatever dirt that you want to share, we promise we
Speaker 7: won't share it with anybody else.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm telling everybody, But I don't know where
Speaker 3: your office is, so it's fine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, Well what's going on?
Speaker 8: So? Uh?
Speaker 4: Not too long ago, I was at a company and
Speaker 4: I ended up having a fling with one of my
Speaker 4: younger coworkers.
Speaker 1: Co workers, is key. It wasn't like somebody you were the.
Speaker 4: Boss that I was her boss.
Speaker 1: That's important detail. It's like a power dynamic you can't do,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 7: That's exactly what Brooke tried to do with me when
Speaker 7: I first started working here on the show as a
Speaker 7: promotions kid.
Speaker 3: I never tried to hook up with you, and I
Speaker 3: still she just did have zero injury.
Speaker 7: Remember HR told me everything I told you you were
Speaker 7: taking advantage of. So anyway, that's an awkward situation for
Speaker 7: you to be in Dave with one of your subordinates.
Speaker 1: But you did it to yourself.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and unlike Brooke, she liked me.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, listen, buddy. Just because she liked it, you
Speaker 1: still can't do it. You're the boss, I know, so, yes.
Speaker 4: So we were keeping everything on the d L, keeping
Speaker 4: everything on the down low because, like you guys are saying,
Speaker 4: we could both get in trouble.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, But then we got to.
Speaker 4: The point where we wanted to bring it out into
Speaker 4: the public, let everybody know, and stop sneaking around.
Speaker 8: I felt that way. She felt that way.
Speaker 2: Wait, so you were both on the same page about this.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, but we felt like if we did that,
Speaker 4: our coworkers would be really weirded out by it, especially
Speaker 4: if they find out how long it was going on
Speaker 4: before we told them. And so we were talking. She
Speaker 4: gave me this idea. It's like, if we didn't work together,
Speaker 4: we would.
Speaker 8: Have a problem.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that's true.
Speaker 8: So I thought, yeah, she's right.
Speaker 4: And I thought, Okay, what I'm going to do is
Speaker 4: I have more job experience. I could get a job
Speaker 4: more easily than she could.
Speaker 8: So I put in my notice and.
Speaker 2: Should have inspired her.
Speaker 3: You guys, he should have gotten another job before you
Speaker 3: put in your notice.
Speaker 6: Anybody.
Speaker 4: I was able to get another job less money, but
Speaker 4: I did get another job for it. Well, so this
Speaker 4: is the part where it might not have been worth it,
Speaker 4: because ever since I quit, the relationships gone kind of cold.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was really hot and heavy for the
Speaker 4: first month, but now it seems like she's distancing herself
Speaker 4: from me.
Speaker 3: Wait, how long were you dating before you quit your job?
Speaker 8: A month?
Speaker 1: That's wow?
Speaker 7: You could it be that forbidden fruit thing where it's like,
Speaker 7: since you're doing it and sneaking around, it's kind of
Speaker 7: fun and exciting, but now that it's out in the open,
Speaker 7: it's lost its luster.
Speaker 4: I have no idea because she won't respond to my text,
Speaker 4: she won't respond to my call, no explanation, and meanwhile,
Speaker 4: I'm over here, like what the hell I went and
Speaker 4: quit my job for you, and now I'm out.
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but it sounds kind of
Speaker 3: like she broke up with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just I mean a couple of months. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the point where you know, if you're
Speaker 1: into someone orn and she probably feels bad. It's not
Speaker 1: like she wanted you to quit your job.
Speaker 4: But the thing was, she was all for it when
Speaker 4: I said I was going to do it, I know,
Speaker 4: but like.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of pressure on her for you to
Speaker 3: bring it up. If she wasn't really sure on the relationship,
Speaker 3: you know, like.
Speaker 4: Well that was to quote Adam Sandler, that's information I
Speaker 4: needed to know yesterday.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe it's Adam Sale.
Speaker 6: I see, you're just looking for an explanation.
Speaker 8: You want to know what's going on.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 7: And it says in your email here that you're only
Speaker 7: forty six years older than her, so hopefully that's.
Speaker 6: What I'm just kidding.
Speaker 8: I'm just.
Speaker 6: You, guys, it's not like that. It's like they hooked up.
Speaker 4: No, I don't have dementia.
Speaker 8: I know what's going on now.
Speaker 2: I'm worried.
Speaker 1: Is there a huge age gap between you two twelve years?
Speaker 8: She's twelve years younger than I'm crazy.
Speaker 6: That's not crazy A lot worse.
Speaker 7: It is crazy that she agreed to like tell him, hey,
Speaker 7: go quit your job and we can be together, and
Speaker 7: then a month later she's out.
Speaker 1: Crazy that after a month he's like, I'm gonna quit
Speaker 1: my job. You like, what is she supposed to say?
Speaker 1: I would feel backed into a corner.
Speaker 6: We weren't there, Brooke. I don't know if she reacted like.
Speaker 1: That, only that would just be my reaction.
Speaker 7: Yes, let's come back, We're gonna let Dave call his
Speaker 7: ex U.
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say his ex coworker, And we'll see
Speaker 7: if she picks up and has an explanation for him
Speaker 7: for why she told him, go ahead, quit your job
Speaker 7: and then ghost it again.
Speaker 1: Not on her, put on her.
Speaker 6: The facts are she's ghosting.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 6: So let's see if she has.
Speaker 7: Anything to say about it when we come back and
Speaker 7: do your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. It's awkward.
Speaker 7: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. We always ask the question,
Speaker 7: what are you willing to do for true love?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, our listener Dave was willing to quit his
Speaker 7: job for it. Literally, he was dating one of his
Speaker 7: younger subordinates in secret until they both agreed. If we
Speaker 7: want to keep this thing going and go public with it,
Speaker 7: the best bet is for Dave to leave the company
Speaker 7: and get himself a new job.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, cuts out all the awkwardness.
Speaker 2: It's funny, how normal you read that? But yeah, someone
Speaker 2: literally quit his career.
Speaker 5: Would be that crazy if it wasn't after a month
Speaker 5: of talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the crazy. It wouldn't be crazy if
Speaker 1: he was dating a year.
Speaker 6: They say, what you know you know.
Speaker 7: But the weird part is a month after he quit,
Speaker 7: she suddenly ghosted completely with no response, no explanation for
Speaker 7: where she's gone. So understandably, Dave is feeling confused and
Speaker 7: a little left out in the lurch, which is why
Speaker 7: he wants our help to call her.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 7: We need to give him some advice, Jose, what do
Speaker 7: you think Dave needs to keep in mind saying goodbye?
Speaker 1: Oh, like you're gonna be the one that is okay
Speaker 1: with the breakup.
Speaker 2: You tell her you haven't talked to me for months,
Speaker 2: and I hate the feeling like I'm talking to myself
Speaker 2: or I'm bugging somebody. So you just say goodbye, thank
Speaker 2: you for the wonderful memories. I can take a hint
Speaker 2: and I wish you the best.
Speaker 1: Are you just saying this from personal experience that they
Speaker 1: all come crawling?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you say.
Speaker 7: A minute, take back the power by saying goodbye first.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to say goodbye without knowing what happened.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's very risky because he does want an explanation.
Speaker 6: So maybe Brooke, you have some advice on that front.
Speaker 1: I mean, closure is always hard to come by, Dave.
Speaker 3: I really think that no matter what you do to
Speaker 3: get someone to open up, you need to go in
Speaker 3: with compliments.
Speaker 1: You need to say how you felt.
Speaker 3: About her and what a great time you had together,
Speaker 3: not that, and then maybe just say you know, I
Speaker 3: was hoping for more time with you. Is there something
Speaker 3: I can do to make things better?
Speaker 6: I think Brooke is wanting a compliment from you, Da.
Speaker 7: Can you just practice on her first?
Speaker 8: You have a lovely voice, brook Wow, almost believed it.
Speaker 6: So use some compliments to soften her up.
Speaker 7: A little bit and say goodbye before she can say goodbye.
Speaker 6: Take back the power.
Speaker 2: You're really pretty by.
Speaker 7: Hopefully that helps. But I'm gonna dial your ex co worker.
Speaker 7: What's her name, by the way, Nicole? Okay, all right,
Speaker 7: me write that down, Nicole. I'm dialing Nicole's number and
Speaker 7: we will step away. Let you make your awkward Tuesday
Speaker 7: phone call.
Speaker 6: Here we go.
Speaker 8: Hello, Hey, Hey, it's me.
Speaker 5: Oh I'm sorry?
Speaker 8: What who says? It's Dave? It's me Dave?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 7: Hi?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 8: Wow?
Speaker 4: I wish you were I wish you were a little
Speaker 4: more excited to hear from me because I haven't heard
Speaker 4: from you in a while.
Speaker 8: You know, I missed talking to you. I miss hearing
Speaker 8: your lovely voice.
Speaker 5: Okay, Hi, how are you doing.
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 8: How funny you should ask.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm calling to see how we're doing, because
Speaker 4: you haven't answered my calls, you haven't answered my texts,
Speaker 4: and I literally quit my job so we could be together.
Speaker 4: So I just I just want to know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, And thank you so much for doing that.
Speaker 5: By the way, that was really sweet, and I promise
Speaker 5: I'll never forget that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I did it because you are the
Speaker 4: fantastic person, and I think we were fantastic together.
Speaker 8: I've never I've.
Speaker 4: Never been with somebody's as beautiful and smart as you are. Well,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for Okay, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're if you're too uncomfortable Lewis on the phone,
Speaker 4: I can come into the office, we can sit down,
Speaker 4: we can talk in person.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: Now, I wouldn't do that, and I don't think the
Speaker 5: supervisor was like so, I feel like, what the west?
Speaker 8: What do you mean the supervisor won't let me?
Speaker 4: I mean I was pretty real wife at that place.
Speaker 5: I think there have been some changes in staff here
Speaker 5: and that would be very awkward and uncomfortable.
Speaker 8: What kind of.
Speaker 4: What kind of changes are you talking about?
Speaker 8: You'll be a league here? What's going on over there?
Speaker 5: Okay, well I didn't know how to tell you this,
Speaker 5: but after you quit, they came to me and they
Speaker 5: offered me a promotion and it's to your job.
Speaker 8: Oh well, we wait, what you took my old job?
Speaker 5: I mean, I make a lot more money now.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm sure you would because I know how
Speaker 4: much I made and I know how much you made.
Speaker 5: I mean, so it was a bit hard for me
Speaker 5: to say no, and you weren't there.
Speaker 4: So I I of course I wasn't there. We agreed
Speaker 4: that I quit.
Speaker 6: Thank god?
Speaker 5: Who is this? What's going on? I'm not understand what's
Speaker 5: going on right now.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a conference call.
Speaker 7: Yeah, with a conference call with a whole morning show
Speaker 7: called Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm feeling a bit ambushed for you.
Speaker 6: You don't need to, by the way, congrats on your promotion. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's good news, But.
Speaker 8: I don't congratulate her.
Speaker 4: I'm taking my job.
Speaker 6: Well, why did you.
Speaker 1: Plan on this?
Speaker 8: Is this why you got me to quit so you
Speaker 8: could have my job?
Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry, I am just so shocked. I didn't
Speaker 5: know that this was going to happen.
Speaker 1: No, totally.
Speaker 5: It was a great opportunity to pass it up, and
Speaker 5: you decided to quit and I took it.
Speaker 4: But you were the one who told me to leave.
Speaker 8: You said it would be better for both of us
Speaker 8: if I did that.
Speaker 1: It was it was better for her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he brought that up to me. I never went
Speaker 5: to him and said you should quit your job.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, you brought that up.
Speaker 8: To me and I agreed.
Speaker 5: No, I told you that I was just as shocked
Speaker 5: as you. They came to me. I did not go
Speaker 5: to them and ask for you.
Speaker 4: Really, I'm going to take you to word now what.
Speaker 1: She didn't lie him about. It doesn't sound like she
Speaker 1: lied to you about anything.
Speaker 8: No, that she shocked.
Speaker 4: I find it hard to believe that she's shocked, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Dave, I really don't want to be rude, but
Speaker 5: everyone at work really likes me more than you. I
Speaker 5: reinstated fun Fridays. You took that away, and everyone's really
Speaker 5: happy with the job that I'm doing right now, So
Speaker 5: I don't need you to yell at me, and especially
Speaker 5: on a radio show. I'm sorry that that happened. But
Speaker 5: from my perspective, you decided to quit and they came
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 8: Okay, wow, I.
Speaker 3: Mean it does kind of sound like you you made
Speaker 3: your own grave there, Dave.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and she dug it for me?
Speaker 1: Did she.
Speaker 5: Did?
Speaker 1: There was no job before you left. It's not like
Speaker 1: she knew that that was going to happen.
Speaker 6: Into the cemetery. He went to the boss and quit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was dating someone that was you know,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. She was getting a boss and
Speaker 1: dates somebody below you.
Speaker 7: Here's the question that we don't have that I think
Speaker 7: Dave wants from Nicole, is that why did you ghost him?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 7: Why did you break off the romantic relationship with no explanation?
Speaker 5: So I would say the majority of the things that
Speaker 5: we talked about had to do with work, and it
Speaker 5: was something that I couldn't talk to him about anymore.
Speaker 6: Work is what bonded you together.
Speaker 7: So once that was taken away, there was nothing left
Speaker 7: to keep the relationship going.
Speaker 3: You don't have faith that he would have celebrated your
Speaker 3: big job promotion to his job.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, maybe you could have taken me out to
Speaker 8: dinner with your big race.
Speaker 5: It's his money, yeah, look, I feel really bad and
Speaker 5: maybe if you're up for it, we could get together
Speaker 5: and have a coffee and you can give me some
Speaker 5: tips on the job. Since you've done it before, I
Speaker 5: would love to come.
Speaker 8: In and help you get more ahead.
Speaker 1: On you said you cared about her. Someone had to
Speaker 1: take your job.
Speaker 3: It might as well be somebody that you cared about.
Speaker 4: For her, somebody who puts the knife in my back.
Speaker 1: The okay on your big promotion.
Speaker 6: Yeah and cool on fun fridays to really good idea.
Speaker 5: Thank you. I don't know what else to say. This
Speaker 5: has been an.
Speaker 4: Maybe I should go in and talk to HR.
Speaker 8: You know, maybe what we were doing.
Speaker 1: You're sounding kind of petty my friend.
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yes, you can call me Tom.
Speaker 6: Okay, Oh Tom petty Okay.
Speaker 8: Dad.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry this played out how it did.
Speaker 7: And Nicole, I know you're a supervisor now and you
Speaker 7: probably know this, but one rule is do not date
Speaker 7: any of your subordinates.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to make It usually doesn't work.
Speaker 5: Out very well, and you know what, trust me, I
Speaker 5: will not I have a really hard job now with
Speaker 5: extra responsibilities, and I really need to focus on that day.
Speaker 1: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning,