WEBVTT - Muggsy Bogues 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John And this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.279 is cut to it. Good do it? Good do they's 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.880 getting down to do it? Good do it. We asked 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.120 the questions you always want to know, but no one 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.600 ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:39.680 then we're about to let you know. It's all. Yeah, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.880 this is this is this is just a banter. So 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.720 it's not a big dummy. No, it's not a big dummy. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.240 It ain't fair to give the dog a big dumb. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:56.920 What's up, g Good afternoon, Smitty. How are you? I'm 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.800 good man. How do you you feel like I'm getting interrogated 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.160 right now? No, run, I don't really like that. I 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.800 don't want to interrogate you. That ain't that ain't mine. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.640 That ain't my deal. And I appreciate it. Well, let 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.840 me tell you what happened to me the other day, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.400 which enlighten me. I wouldn't hit the straights and I 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:18.440 went shopping just because I struggle at times with getting 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.840 online stuff. And then it does not match. The picture 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.440 does not match because what you thought you ordered yeah, 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.440 or like the colors a little bit off, and then 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.520 you're the that's down. That's why. That's why generically I'm 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.920 not a online shopper because of that reason, but I 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.840 will like my go to spots always go to like Northstroom's, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.440 NeiMa Marcus and Bloomdal's. You can never go wrong. Is 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.720 what you see is what you get. Right, So going 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.360 to do shopping. Wife call and said, hey, you know Tiga. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.680 Tiga is my dog is a Belgium mount of She's 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.160 about three years old. Lover her. She's a house dog. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.880 We love her to death. Right. Started Monday, she wasn't 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.000 fell and good. She she threw up something. She'd be 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.680 eating a lot of grass and and and leaves and 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.720 so grasses helps so it helps settle their stomach and 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.440 so they hack it up and they're all good. Tega 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.120 didn't poop and she was starting to look a little bloated. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:22.240 So that was Monday. Bro By Tuesday she threw up 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:27.560 again and we have to take her to to the vet. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.480 So it took her to the vet, White dropped her off. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.079 I asked some stuff we were recording, lo and behold 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.040 the vet is like, well, she isn't you know. We 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:43.000 took X rays and did some scans and looking in 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.600 there and stuff not moving. She usually using the bathroom. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.959 She isn't drinking, so I was like, let's just take 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.919 her to the vet. So she's at the vet. Come 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.040 about six thirty, they tell us, hey, we think she 0:02:54.040 --> 0:03:00.680 should go to the emergency room. I'm like, okay, because 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:06.200 she still her her she's still not drinking and she's 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.639 starting to get nick put her to a I vy 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:18.359 now she's getting bigger and she's not Yes, so get 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.200 her to the vet, take her to the take her 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.240 to the emergency and so they said they're gonna observe her. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.239 But they believe that she has some things in her 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:32.040 that she's been eating. Do you know what they could be? No? 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.640 I could not know what they does she eat? Sucks? Eat? 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.640 Does she you know? Underwear? Does she know we watch her? 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:48.480 We don't just let her galivant through the house, you know, 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:55.120 So you know you're ready. So she goes under the knife. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:01.320 They're gonna do emergency surgery and remove items from her stomach. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:07.920 Do you want to know what items? They removed? Some 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:14.520 leaves and twigs. They said she ate as many leaves. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:22.080 It'd be equivalent to a small tree. My little doggie eight, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.120 my three year old Belgian malinoir eight. And I waited. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.359 I waited because it's in a zip black bag. I 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.080 put it on the waist scale. You know how much 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.640 do you know how small and light leaves are? She 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.840 ate four ounces of leaves that they removed from They 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:48.520 cut her open, removed four ounces of leaves. I'm like why, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.840 doctor told me they believe it possibly was a dead 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:56.560 animal that was in the leaves, and so she enjoyed 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.000 the leaves because she was getting a little bit of 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:04.760 that that you know that came on My dog then 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:10.760 got sliced up about sliced up and remove four ounces 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:16.880 of leaves in her and twigs to get the tweegs. Now, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.800 the part that sucks is them. So I take Doocey 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:25.040 and Doucey's daddy, can I say, body Tika before and 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.560 I'm sitting there going if something happened to this dog, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.400 So before I take her, after we take it to 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.240 the vet, you gotta take it to the emergency and 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.360 they and so they called us. They did m basically 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.039 emergency surgery because they couldn't she couldn't pass. It wasn't drinking. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.400 They did surgery like three in the morning, and so 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.200 that I added, like sign the paperwork resuscitation. If she 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.280 goes on, I'm like, I don't want to, Like why 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.599 do I have to answer this question? Like yes, I 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.640 want you to say my dog, but I'm going to 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.880 sleep thinking what happens if you can't say it's like 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.960 a human in the emergency, the same type of questioning. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.520 It's like, so, yeah, that's that's so I had to 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:14.359 stop one too, some time out of your schedule. It 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:15.920 was like two days. So we got her and then 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.440 she wasn't even in the morning doing surgery. Yeah, it 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.719 was pretty bad man. So so funny story in that 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.240 the vet was telling us that they had some other 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.360 procedures where and this is a funny story where they 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.880 had a family whose dog ate a G string. And 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.080 first of all, I don't know why the doctor's telling 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.200 me and my wife, but she tells us this picking 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.800 up conversation, she goes, well, yeah, we had a patient 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.880 whose dog ate a G string. And I asked the 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.560 I asked them the the mom of your of your 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.880 little doggie, do you wear g strings? Ye? Say, how 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:04.440 do we connect? Are you ready? Mom didn't wear G string? Yes. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.760 The plot thickens and she goes, here's how to vet asked, 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:15.280 did your daughter wear g strings? No? Because their daughter, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.640 I guess, was too young to wear strings. It was 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.400 getting chicy. Oh yeah, this is like has been got 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:29.960 in trouble. They're dogs, father, They're dogs ate another woman's 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:37.280 G string shenanigans. So this is K nine Jerry Springer. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.960 Will you hang around the doggy parks? Yea? Here all 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:48.240 kinds of stores you might and you might get fleeing. Hey, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.000 what do we have to day? On the podcast? And 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.880 cut to it? Coming up on the cut to a podcast, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.520 We've got Muggsy Bowls and he's not just the shortest 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.120 player to ever play in the NBA, he's a fourteen 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.760 year veteran, most notably with the Charlotte Hornets, first time 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.320 all a cec A Wake Forest and overall great and 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.520 iconic legend in the NBA. Muggsy Bowls on the cut 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:23.320 to a podcast, Oh, thanks for having man. I appreciate 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.640 it well. Our first segment that we do is our icebreaker. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.040 It's called get Iced Up. It's random questions Smitty has 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.280 compiled might be a follow up, might not be a 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.920 follow up. Who knows. Just be ready for anything. Muggs anything, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.000 go and so Smitty go ahead and give him the 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.400 first get iced up questions. Alright, which habit are you 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:52.800 proudest of breaking? Which habit I'm proudest of breaking? Ah? Gosh? 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:59.120 Is there so many? It's I don't have many bad habits. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.160 I'm just trying to figure out which is one that 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.559 comes to mind? Kinda right, are you comfortable with telling 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.400 on yourself? No? No, that's what I'm trying to make 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:17.720 sure I don't not not now happened? Plate right, I'm 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.599 proud of habited. The most proud is habit I'm proud of, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.679 ah man, I guess what I gave up? Did I 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.719 give up anything I should have? It? Gave up my 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.679 jet food. I'm not trying to figure. Let me be 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.800 Steve Harvey. Let's pass on that come back. So, if 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.360 you were at a Super Bowl party and you've seen 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:47.920 another guest double dip in the saucer, do you a 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:54.120 say something to that individual? Or be you don't say 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.800 anything and you keep it to yourself. Oh, I'm hey, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.640 I'm saying something. You're gonna exp Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.240 you're double dippering, especially if I got to go, if 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.839 I got to go behind you that. I mean that 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.400 just lets you know that. Hey man, you know we 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.199 got other folks here, you know, gonna be sharing the 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.640 same sauce. You can't be double dipping. Yeah, I just 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.920 you know, I'm sure I'm gonna say something. I'm not 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.280 gonna be the last I'm gonna paint double dipping the sauce. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.560 That's a no no. Yeah, well some people are double dippers. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.319 I'm particularly not. But I just want to know what 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.560 you're gonna say something, or just you know, be selfish 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.679 and just not go to the sauce you got. You 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.079 gotta throw the flag on that one. Yeah, yeah, I'm 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.960 going I'm going right at them. I gotta let them 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.880 know and call them out. I might not be you know, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.360 loud about it, but you're gonna the person gonna know 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.880 they can't be double with it. But you're gonna call 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.880 it out. Are you? Are you going to the individual? 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:58.160 Are you telling the house or Super Bowl host? You 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:03.319 gonna see? But I'm gonna do first. I'm gonna I'm 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.599 gonna go to the individual because I don't want to 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.679 just blast them like that. I'm just gonna go to 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.160 the individual and let them know that you know, you 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.319 shouldn't be doing this. You know, you got other people. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.000 Then if I catch them again or that person again, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.640 I'm definitely gonna go to the host, and then the 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.199 host is not gonna into our Is this host you 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.520 know generally a dude that a female or guy? You know, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.160 you got to make sure I guess say everybody. Generally 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.400 people have host parties. They don't randomly just do it 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:44.480 once it's there. They're repeated traditional party, a repeated party planner. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.360 That's what we do. That's what we do. And so 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:53.080 you know if you go to the host, they will 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:59.760 not and they ain't invite. Yeah. Well, I mean that's 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.240 where that that's where the double dip twice come in. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.160 That when you do it twice, you know, once and 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.920 I can you know, and I and I approach you 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.280 and then you go do it again, I mean that's 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.640 disrespecting a person's home and you don't care about anyone 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.720 beside yourself, so you may not need to be invited back. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.199 And then all right, so I'm throwing I'm sliding another 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.800 one in there. What if the it's the party host. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.920 But then a party host and I'm saying, oh him, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.559 I heard that. But and I'm like, why are you 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.679 serving this among your guests? And you got ahead double 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.599 dip and then if I'm gonna approach you, then he 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.800 whatever explanation they give me, if they didn't mean to 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.360 do it, then they say, hey, you know, there's no thing. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.000 If it's a normal thing with them, then I gotta 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.199 be careful what I do around them. Yeah, that it 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.839 was a lot about the care that. Let's me know, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.439 I'm not going back to the court questions. I don't know. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.920 I just raised my hand, um cast I know what 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.000 what do you mean? I mean, what do you mean 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.640 you act? How do you accidentally double them? Because if 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:15.679 you double that, you're like that think half dip it 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.520 right back in that right, Yeah, you know, because it 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.599 all has to be a you know something that you 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.360 constantly do it. But you know, you give them the 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.400 benefit of that doubt because you got people around you, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.559 like you tell your body think I ain't need to 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.680 get the back then real quickly and you catch yourself. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.640 But you know, so that's the one time you may 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.000 give them that make that little pass. But I'm telling you. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.000 You know, once you see it again, you know it 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.600 ain't no dad, no, no act that that's that's part 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:49.480 of that. Then that's are you a morning person or 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:56.199 an evening person? I'm I think I'm a morning person, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.439 believe it, and that I'm a morning person because the 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.719 same I've seen, though, I want to get up and 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.679 stop my day off a lot, a lot sooner these days. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.599 Six hours, six hours is enough for me. Now is 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.520 the world travel? He got places to be? Yeah? Not now, No, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.640 not right now, that's very true. All right, So this 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.480 is a twofold question. Uh my, my, my journalistic coach 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.680 would tell me a double barrel question is not ever allowed. However, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.720 this is my podcast. She's not on it, so she'll 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.960 probably texts me later when she listens to him. Anyway, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:35.040 So what's your favorite season? And do you know how 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:40.520 many seasons there are? Well? I believe there are four. Okay, Hey, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.280 I gotta ask because we we have had some questionable 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.800 we've had some money like you know, so I just 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.360 gotta gotta make sure, especially in today's society, you know, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.400 everything is you know, I seemed like as a given. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.800 And it depends on where you're living, you know, so 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.000 that's part of the you know, the environment all year around. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.720 But now I believe in season. And my favorite season, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.160 of course, is always gonna be the summertime. Why is that? 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:17.200 He was reminiscent He had a moment jazz Jeff video 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.600 a little bit like yeah, summertime. Yeah, a lot of 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.360 things popped the mind for a second. But I know 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:29.360 what that that happened. The summer's back in Baltimore. He 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.680 went back. But it's the one for me, you know. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:39.720 It's the warmth, that warm weather. So that that's where 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:44.120 I'm gonna I'm you know, my hanging to for me. Well, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.880 let's move up before we get before we get you 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:58.960 and died and all Severn stop it all right, We 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.840 really appreciate you, take your time, and just we're gonna 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.240 get down. This is an open book test. There is 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.240 no questions. The only questions we're asking is about you. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.120 We want to know all about Muggsie. You know, who 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.800 is Muggsy? What makes Muggsy tick? And so here we go. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.840 Who is Muggsie? Well, I laid back here, you know, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.120 grew up in innocent of Baltimore. You know, he kind 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.200 of you know, found his way in terms of trying 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.440 to pursue a dream. And uh, he started off as 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.040 Tyrone playing the game and as a kid still on 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:38.880 the ball. And at the time, we had a show 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.520 we used to come on every Saturday called The Bowery Boys, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.040 and one of the character names his name was Muggsy. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.920 He was kind of a little small lead of his 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.040 kind of crew, and I kind of had a little 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.520 crew that we kind of grew up with growing up. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.840 But playing basketball, my boy Dwayne Woods, he saw me 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.640 still on the ball and he kept saying that he 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.680 getting everybody. Then he kind of tied the character muggy 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.639 and mugging, and all of a sudden I was Muggy 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.480 and actually hated too because I thought they were talking 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.240 about my mug and uh, you know, I'm like manner 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.040 that muggy man, you know. So but it grew on me, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.160 you know, and then the vcame Muggy every since. Where 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:25.120 are you from in the place you call your hometown? Well, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.639 I'm from Baltimore, Baltimore grew up in like say, in 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.240 the city of Baltimore. And when you say you say 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:34.879 the in the city, you know I was. I was 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.320 out there. So and you've got a lot of people 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:42.720 that listen and followed you give us a area of 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.920 Baltimore because a lot of people are you know, a 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:52.440 lot of people have known the wire and ravings and 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.840 all that stuff. But there, as I learned, there are 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:00.240 so many areas, so many um places that you love 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.800 to go during the day, and there's some place you 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.080 don't stop to ball some more during the night. And 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.920 it changes over quickly, I mean it changes quickly, but 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:14.320 well on that path of how Baltimore changes geographically. But 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.440 you know where exactly in Baltimore, because a lot of 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:24.320 Baltimore is not known how beautiful, how widespread, how much food, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.840 how much culture it has there. That is true. And 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.040 I grew up then, as you say, right five minutes 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.119 from where you guys were playing and law Fier Projects, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.400 which is off a Gate street and it's right two 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.600 minutes from the in the harbor um. Yeah, and right 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.760 around that your great street. So that's where I grew up. 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.760 Of course we now we imploded there are it's pleasant. God. 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.600 Now that's where a lot of kids get opportunity to 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.440 go and play in the rec center where Under Armed 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.239 now has a recreation center that they revitalized there. Um 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.240 so that's that's the rat that I grew up in. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.760 And when you mentioned the wire, you know that was 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.080 the atmosphere. You know, that's what the atmosphere that we 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.200 grew up in. And um, the guys and you know, 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.679 but for us back then, we had the people more 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.880 or less kind of keeping us away from the things 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.320 that took place in the neighborhood. And but again, you've 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.959 got some great posts of Baltimore that you would love 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.840 to visit. It's a lot of places that you know, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.440 again you'd be cautious to visit as well. We have 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.560 to take a break and the morning thing, we gotta 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:39.080 pay some bills. You got checks. I love cut to 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.600 It and I love it even more when you download 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.040 us and subscribe, and you can follow us on social 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.080 media too, Smithie, where where at that's at? Cut to 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:54.160 It on Instagram? What about twitter? At? Cut to It Facebook? 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.280 Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr? What about online? 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.200 And you can follow us it cut to It podcast 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.439 dot com where you can buy merch and you can 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.879 subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.399 all my answers questions, Um, yeah, I got all my 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.000 questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother cut 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.880 to a podcast dot com. You know, for a very 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:23.000 long time, Um, you know, I idolized Muggsy bowls. I 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:28.320 even had when I was in I was ninety six. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.439 I think one of those years, when I turned sixteen 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:40.280 years old, I got a Charlotte purple jersey. Our research 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.600 department pulled up that texture too, so I've seen it 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:44.960 and I and the picture is probably up. And I 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:53.200 was at six Flags Magic Mountain with some airpennies on phones. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.480 The phones pitive. I was stunting. I think I have 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.159 I think I have some gene shorts though, so that 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:06.160 kind of threw it off. So you had that was backwards, 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.800 that was prior to Brace's so t you've had a 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.600 lot of space in them. Um. But man, you know, 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:19.440 just growing up there and and seeing the impact, um, 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.840 you know that you've had on a lot of people, 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.560 including myself. So for me, it's an honor to have 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.080 you on here is living here in Charlotte. I remember 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:33.520 playing at the you uhould be called the sisky Y 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:36.480 m c A. But if times I got the opportunity 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:43.399 to play uh pick up basketball with us, I was terrible, 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.800 but it didn't matter. I was playing with Muggsy boats um. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.040 But I never told you, Bro. It was when we 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.399 played a few times at the at the at the 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.800 time it's called Bryce, Now it's called Sisky m M. 0:21:55.720 --> 0:22:00.560 I was at all of playing basket ball and just 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.960 being in the same building with Muggy Bowls definitely chilled 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.680 because you know, I really when I first met Steve, 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:09.760 you know again, when we was at the wine and 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.920 playing because you know football, he was a panther. He 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:17.160 was small, but he was so aggressive and I used 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.320 to always and men LJ was to sit around and 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.840 talk about how you know, impactful he was. But when 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.280 we was playing at the why you know, I didn't 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.959 realize how high he can jump. And you don't want 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.000 to remember this, Steve. But when I think when we 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.800 was playing, I don't know if I tried to give 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.919 your alley you. I thought to you, you got up 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.639 so freaking high, but you you missed the dunk. And 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.480 I was like, I cannot freaking believe that. I thought 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.920 I was going to display. I said, man, this boy 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:58.200 get up so high. Man, it's unfreaking even hot. How 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.920 you just how you just get off and speak so 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.680 lightly I'm always you know, I just ob used to 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.280 tell him about that and when we was up at 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.040 the wide, but now it's the brace. But you know, man, 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.200 I really appreciate that. But you again, you know, you 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.359 know how it is when we're small, when we're growing up, 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.320 when folks are telling you that you can't do something, 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.520 we just want to show them that we're capable of 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:21.320 doing anything. And basketball for me was that thing. And 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.439 you know, knowing that I wasn't gonna get much taller, 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.240 should I need that, you know, especially you know Multiball, 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.560 that was the place that kind of gave me that 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.359 that grit and that that that that thing that I 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.760 needed to go elsewhere to become who I was. So 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.480 um but you know, the belief and uh and names 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.080 that I was carrying around in my head, you know, 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:44.840 nothing's gonna stop me. I'm glad you said that because 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.120 my son is over here and they you know, they 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:53.920 sometimes get on me right about playing sports on yourself. 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:57.400 So I'm glad Muggsy who's witnessed it, because now when 0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.919 I played them, I own danna believe you had them. 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.960 Now they like, right now he isn't even looking at me. 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:09.200 He busy on his laptop. But how do that feel? 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.800 You almost got an alley from Muggsy Bowls, like you know, 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.880 except part is I don't even remember that part. All 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.760 I remember is I was on the court of Muslim. 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.480 They end up playing and kept going, but I just 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:26.520 sat and watched and just watched Muggsy play, like because 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:31.480 I just remember that was a guy that identified with 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:35.680 Because when you you said something that, let's let's let's 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.160 unpack that is you talk about size. People almost talk 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:43.000 about our size as if it's a deficiency, deficiency, like 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:48.399 it's a deformity, like, oh, you're short, so you got 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:53.680 when you I hear people even now you talk about 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:58.359 I studied so much ball, always like, oh Steve has 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.400 that chip on show he got the short man and drown. 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.560 Oh it's I mean on forty one, I'm short, But 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.560 me being short has nothing to do with me analyzing 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.600 the guy. If the dude can catch, if you do 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.760 kids throw, what is my lack of how you have 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:17.719 to do with his inability to do his job? They're like, oh, 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:23.160 short man syndrome all that what? I have always been short, 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:28.120 flash and too because you know that you're short, I too, 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:35.359 am short collecting three Nina. But yeah, that's that's already 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.000 out there. So why do we need to be label 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.480 on the short that you're he has a chip on 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.680 the show that the chip is not has nothing to 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.119 do with my height. Then you has to do with 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:50.439 the the machine or the instrument that you cannot measure, 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:55.720 which is a man and woman's heart. And Jeerys have 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.440