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Speaker 3: Then the midweek edition Thursday, coming at you because we

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Speaker 3: have Memorial Day off. Hi, everybody, that's Barry Terry you, sir.

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Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison is in the buildings. The national champion LSU

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Speaker 3: Tiger King is Danny mccrab New he Scruggs. So many

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Speaker 3: things to talk about. Mike McCarthy will talk today at

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Speaker 3: elek clock. We've got practice today. Lots of times to

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Speaker 3: by Toasty Toes. I want to dive into something new.

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Speaker 3: Heck makers through it hit us with the running back situation.

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Speaker 2: Oh you don't want to dive into your outfit? First?

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Speaker 2: what what is it you wear?

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Speaker 4: Your Q outfit. You got your Q hat, your Q shirt,

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Speaker 3: You know, as I tell my children, you come on

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Speaker 2: You're going to get hazed. This is in locker room.

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Speaker 2: You fresh nose. You guys know how it is.

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Speaker 3: You start looking in the closet that that will work.

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Speaker 3: Your coordinator, got the shoes, go to you.

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Speaker 2: You put that out the night before everything this one

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Speaker 3: Well, first sin is dynamic. We're doing the show. I

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Speaker 3: went to bedlize watching Ted, so fell asleep, so didn't

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Speaker 3: there was no care. It was literally walking in the white.

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Speaker 3: What's what's here? Is something that this in the clean rack?

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Speaker 2: Take it? There's a hat?

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Speaker 3: Because I know I got to go ahead watch practice

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 3: So theres deaths out there on the team.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He's gonna get all the

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Speaker 4: special treatment when he get out there, They gonna know

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Speaker 4: it's him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brother hurts, Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Strong Field the running back, the running back position. Heck,

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Speaker 3: you're bothered by this. I am, and I want to

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Speaker 3: know what could make you feel better.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that the Cowboys front office has

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Speaker 4: to be combing other rosters to find an acquisition right now.

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Speaker 4: If you're going to start the season and say that

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Speaker 4: Tony Pollat is your number one and let's just say

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Speaker 4: Ronald Jones is your number two, that is not the

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Speaker 4: thunder and lightening combination that I think we are looking

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Speaker 4: forward to seeing and iking this experience of what they're

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Speaker 4: doing in the running back position to what they did

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Speaker 4: last season at the wide receiver position by not upgrading

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Speaker 4: the position when they had time to. We didn't go

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Speaker 4: into the draft, and I'm talking about draft, you know,

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Speaker 4: top three rounds looking for a running back. And not

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Speaker 4: to say that Deuce Vaughn in any way will be

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Speaker 4: a disappointment. I just think that you there's going to

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Speaker 4: I'm still trying to figure out, Okay, how does he

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Speaker 4: don't see that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that for him.

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Speaker 4: He's a pass catcher, even at his stature, a guy

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Speaker 4: I'm concerned about what Ronald Jones is at this stage

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with your head. I'm with you on that one. Especially.

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Speaker 5: You know when a head coach goes out there and says,

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Speaker 5: you know, hey, we're running the football this year.

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Speaker 2: You know we're gonna we're behind the tackles. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: let our big boys eat. And I'm with you. Who's

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Speaker 5: You know, you got Tony Poller coming back from injury,

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Speaker 5: and then last year, even though he had an outstanding

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Speaker 5: he wasn't that every down back. He wasn't taking that

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Speaker 5: And you also make the point who's blocking? We all

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Speaker 5: know that's not a strength of Tony Pollitt. And you

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Speaker 5: got duce Vaughn in here, who's a mismatched nightmare when

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Speaker 5: but he was in the doghouse in Tampa Bay, he

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Speaker 5: that's to me, that's the top back we got Right now, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Actually feeling a little bit more confident than you guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with brother Daniel Craig.

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Speaker 4: So we got a ten million dollar guy in Tony

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Speaker 4: Pollard who we know is explosive. We know that if

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Speaker 4: that's what we know about. What we know is weakness,

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Speaker 4: all these dudes are finding ways to eat when they

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Speaker 4: do like Rojo, he hadn't got much burned. But when

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Speaker 2: They're gonna lean on Rojo. So I'm more confident than

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Speaker 2: you all are. Yeah, we don't have that.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen Tony Pobla be a every down all

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Speaker 2: Hurt the Super Bowl year, so it'll start.

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Speaker 3: So he's he's a guy who's had a collection of

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Speaker 3: I want to put that there the other one to

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Speaker 3: be some folks on the market after today in the future.

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Speaker 2: They're not done. They're not done.

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Speaker 4: And really that's my point, and that's where I'm going.

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Speaker 4: I think that you have to make a move. We

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Speaker 4: That's that's my whole point. That's why we're cambing other

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Speaker 4: We don't know that right now going into the season.

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Speaker 4: But then when you start running down some of these

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Speaker 4: teams that have been able to plug and play running backs,

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Speaker 4: the coaches, the office.

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Speaker 4: We don't have that structure in place where that has been.

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Speaker 4: The running game has been premiere. In what we've done,

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Speaker 4: it's been the passing game. We haven't had any balance.

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Speaker 4: And I think that was Kellen Moore's imminent undoing is

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Speaker 4: are going to and they just gave contract. We're gonna see.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I just look, it's it's a worry.

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Speaker 4: It's a concern of mine. And I think that you know,

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Speaker 4: the diamond doesn't. And the way that the running back

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Speaker 4: position has been de valued in the NFL, to me

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Speaker 4: that was it Tony what's the running backs name from

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Speaker 4: Kansas City? Seventh rounder Potaco was running the ball. Talk

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Speaker 4: about Patrick Mahomes. All you want to do was physical.

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Speaker 2: He was hitting. He was how they get there though,

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Speaker 2: But he's still able to run the ball.

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Speaker 4: We've seen We've seen running backs play with good quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: you watched the Patriots many years when he was like, man,

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Speaker 4: they drafted guys all over the place with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: But it still doesn't say that that wasn't the better

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Speaker 4: We're not sure we can really if our interior line

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Speaker 4: Things have changed, right, So your running game ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: Over Bill Belichick. So they got to be just talking

437
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Speaker 2: about like what they saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

438
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Speaker 3: So fourteen they put soul brother Mike McDaniel on the Dolphins.

439
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Speaker 3: O Mike, Mike, he's fourteen. Fifteen is Kevin O'Connell of Minnesota.

440
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Speaker 3: After one year, even though I mean I just recall

441
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Speaker 3: and saw that the Cowboys went to Minnesota and beat

442
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Speaker 3: them forty to three. And sixteen another guy who mcarthy

443
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Speaker 3: and the Cowboys meet last year, Dan Campbell eighteen Arthur

444
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: Smith of the Falcons. Yeah what and they just then

445
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: you got Mike McCarthy coming in at number twenty one.

446
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: It's player right there. You just stop. That's good. It

447
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: is what it is. That's out of pocket.

448
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 5: I mean the man that went to back to back

449
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Speaker 5: playoff appearances. Yeah, they didn't go as far as you

450
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 5: know we all expected, but.

451
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Speaker 2: He's been in the playoffs back to back years.

452
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Speaker 5: You know, you know, people talk about his you know,

453
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 5: game management and all that stuff and undisciplined team, but

454
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Speaker 5: I feel like from that first playoff season where they

455
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: had a bunch of penalties and it ended up hurting

456
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 5: us in the actual playoff rounds, he got this team

457
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Speaker 5: better and more discipline. The penalties are way down.

458
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Speaker 2: So I to me, you know, I.

459
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Speaker 5: Think that's complete disrespect right there. I mean, you got

460
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Speaker 5: guys in it that just got into the head coaching

461
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Speaker 5: position and they're ranked well above I mean, you're talking

462
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Speaker 5: about soul brother down in Miami, Like, how is he

463
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Speaker 5: ranked that high?

464
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Speaker 2: It just makes no sense to me.

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Speaker 5: And look, Mike McCarthy got a chance to, you know,

466
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Speaker 5: this year, call on the players and say, hey, you

467
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: know all that disrespect y'all was saying, we'll see what

468
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Speaker 5: happens with it.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna say this was Mike McDaniels ahead of

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Speaker 4: both Dan Campbell and Mike McCarthy. Yes, that is both

471
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Speaker 4: of those are incorrect because I'm not gonna put Dan

472
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Speaker 4: Campbell above Mike McCarthy because I don't think he's gotten

473
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Speaker 4: there yet, but they both above Mike McDaniels. I think

474
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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy has been disrespected. I think that he is

475
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Speaker 4: much higher than that. I think the job that he

476
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: has done here, he has gotten better every year. Although

477
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: we haven't gotten over to San Francisco hump. Hopefully this

478
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 4: year with the changes, will be able to. But he's

479
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: been able to that got hurt for five games last season,

480
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: and we figured out a way to go.

481
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Speaker 2: Four and one. Four and one.

482
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Speaker 4: You go out there and you beat the Brakes off Minnesota.

483
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Speaker 4: I couldn't even watch the game. I heard about it

484
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Speaker 4: in South Africa.

485
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Speaker 2: Man, you ain't gonna believe what the Cowboys did to

486
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: the Micers all the way in South Africa.

487
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Speaker 4: They told me so, No, it don't make no sense.

488
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: I want to give some shout out to Dan Campbell,

489
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Speaker 4: but also Mike McCarthy.

490
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Speaker 2: They need to be much higher.

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Speaker 4: I think that list is what is the thirty okay?

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Speaker 2: What is the third? Okay? So that's about right, right, there,

493
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: what is it?

494
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: Andy Reid won, Bill Belichick two, Mike Tomlin three.

495
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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy is twentieth.

496
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Speaker 3: All time in wins in the National Football League one

497
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five and sixteen years, and only eight

498
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: men have a better winning percentage than Mike McCarthy. So

499
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: you start looking at how they're ranking this list and

500
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Speaker 3: you just think about, okay, and I think at the

501
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Speaker 3: Tomlin number three is not based off what Mike did

502
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 3: last year with that team, though I thought he did

503
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: a really good coaching job with a.

504
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Speaker 2: Team that was right. I always have.

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Speaker 3: You mean, when they made you go out there and

506
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 3: play at Mitchell Trubisky, they trying to hurt you.

507
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: But the man got through it. He did.

508
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: The man got through it. He is a Hall of

509
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Speaker 3: Fame coach. But to sit up here and not take

510
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: into account of what Mike has done, and then I

511
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 3: think about the two twelve and five, the two twelve

512
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: win seasons, These are things that haven't been done since

513
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: Troy eight men and m Smith were playing for the cap,

514
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: which you had that kind of talent. And there is

515
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Speaker 3: not a team or roster of guys on this year's

516
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: team that there are going to be a bunch of

517
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 3: gold jackets like that Cowboys team in the nineties.

518
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Speaker 4: That's a great article by Clarence by the way, And look,

519
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys could have gone a number of

520
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: different ways right before hiring Mike McCarthy. All the names

521
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: that you heard that they were potentially looking at, we

522
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 4: could have plucked the coach from the college ranks. Lincoln

523
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: Riley was a name that they were talking about there

524
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Speaker 4: for a while.

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Speaker 2: I mean so many.

526
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Speaker 4: Different guys that could have been at Jerry's house, eaton

527
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Speaker 4: Nacho's on that faithful night that he decided to hire

528
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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy. He was the right guy. The disrespect for me,

529
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Speaker 4: I think has always been there for Mike. And when

530
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: you look at this list, to me, I just say, look, man,

531
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Speaker 4: you discount guys based off the factors. Have you won

532
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl? If you ain't won Super Bowl, you

533
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: can't be raked ahead of them. We just to start

534
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: taking plucking guys off that list based off of that.

535
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to look. They hate on Mike McCarthy

536
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: every chances they get. And also, by the way, because

537
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: he's the Dallas Cowboys head coach. But this is the

538
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 4: year for me and I'm gonna give him a mulligan

539
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: for the two season because of COVID and all of that.

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00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: But those two twelve and five.

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Speaker 4: Back to back seasons, winning a playoff game last season,

542
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: now taking over as the offensive play caller, he gets

543
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: an opportunity to truly put his imprint on this team

544
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: when in the other years he's been discounted at every stop.

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Speaker 2: I mean last year, at this time, we were talking

546
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: about Sean Payton, you.

547
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Speaker 4: Know, we were talking about him being replaced, everything that

548
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: he's done right, But now he gets that opportunity.

549
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: Maybe he's always been waiting to say, Look, when I.

550
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 4: Get my opportunity to call this offense, that's where I'm

551
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 4: gonna put my foot on the gas. And this is

552
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: the opportunity maybe he has as ahead come.

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00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: You brought up a great point because on the NBC

554
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football Night in America, they do a call

555
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: every year when they do meet with the media, and

556
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: I asked, Jason Garrett and Tony Dunchey are part of

557
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: that show. How does Mike McCarthy go into this season

558
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: knowing there's a whole lot of talk about Sean Payton

559
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: and his job being out there. No, by the way,

560
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: they got another guy who's there in the building and

561
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: dan Quinn that Jerry Jones is pumped up as as

562
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: a potential head coach, so have all that going on.

563
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: They addressed it right there for the press conference. Jerry

564
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: tried to blame the media for you brought it up.

565
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: Mike handled that you lose Dak Prescott game one. We

566
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: were all like, bro, I mean this this boy all right,

567
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 3: So we're gonna.

568
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Speaker 2: Start to draft show early and they he gets through that,

569
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Speaker 2: you don't.

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Speaker 3: You know, Michael got the whole gallup thing and we

571
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: like our wide receivers James Watte, that whole thing was

572
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: a mess. To have all that going on and to

573
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: have the mental toughness as a head coach to get

574
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Speaker 3: these guys to play, and for them to have the.

575
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Speaker 2: Year they did.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's being reflected because it was not.

577
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: What he accomplished last year was naughties.

578
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 3: And heck brbish is because of of your your your

580
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: your great Hall of Fame, Uncle Joe Green. You see

581
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: two different right The way the Steelers work, you know, definitely, you.

582
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Know it's different than you. It is.

583
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 3: It is a lot there's a lot of stuff besides

584
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: football going on here.

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00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean just a couple of weeks ago, we came

586
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: down here to do the podcasts. Have to feel as unusable.

587
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: They got.

588
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: Like RV's out here for the Country Music Awards. You

589
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: can't go use the facility in there because they got

590
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: it all set up for the Country Music Awards, so

591
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: it rains, so they had to go inside. And there's

592
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that goes on here beside just football.

593
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Speaker 3: And I think Mike McCarthy does an excellent job. And

594
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how many coaches notly come in here

595
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: and handle this. There's certain jobs and I've been forced

596
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: up to cover the Lakers. That's a tough job. That's

597
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: a tough job, right, the Cowboys, that's a tough job.

598
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: You want to manage the Yankees, that's a that's a

599
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 3: tough job. You know, people have these expectations and sometimes

600
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: they're not really there.

601
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Speaker 2: I think Mike stepped.

602
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: In here figuring and finding out like, yeah, this hang

603
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: Green Bay, and after that first year he made the

604
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: adjustments and I think the guy, I think the guy

605
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: has done a good job.

606
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Speaker 2: And to say.

607
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Speaker 3: Twenty first, this is twenty first best head coaching in

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Speaker 3: that perspect.

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Speaker 2: I think twenty one to two. Little.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I need to know because this has to

611
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Speaker 4: be cleared up. Okay, are we talking about based off

612
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: what they did last year? Are we talking about their

613
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: full body of work? It has to be based off

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Speaker 4: last year. Just be last year because if Tumblin is

615
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: on that list, I know that.

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Speaker 2: But because look but you got day ball eight.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying, so I think that list is they

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Speaker 4: they put in the top three on body of work

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Speaker 4: maybe and then maybe everybody else, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It seems like there's no there's no continuity in and

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Speaker 4: how they ranked these coaches. Because are you Carol okay,

622
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Speaker 4: you said, okay, a coach they went to the super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Last year's ranked number? What is h Serianni five?

624
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Speaker 3: Coach soul is fourteen, and you got McConnell at fifteen,

625
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Speaker 3: And that's that's you know, clearly you're looking at what

626
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Speaker 3: they did last year.

627
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: What did they put Rivera? Was he had a was

628
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Speaker 2: he a had a mic? No?

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Speaker 4: No, he is Revera's nineteen. There is no that list

630
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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 2: It's been discredited right here.

632
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: On the players last It don't make It don't make

633
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Speaker 4: no don't make no sense. You say that if you

634
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: based off last year, you want to talk about the Stillers. Okay,

635
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: they did, they did good considering what they had, but

636
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: by no means was that what they were of the

637
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: best teams in the league.

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00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: So what were we talking about? Bill Belichick? We watched him.

639
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: We was like now two years rading up the building.

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean, so you're definitely not talking about

641
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: just what they did last year, especially at the top.

642
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: It has to be their overall body at work, which

643
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: then discredits your list because now you got other guys

644
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: on here. It just based off what they did last year.

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Speaker 3: All right, take our final break. There's a position the Cowboys.

646
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Uh as we go out here to OTA's today practice,

647
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: they really position I don't feel comfortable about forgetting the

648
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Speaker 3: running back.

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00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: This is worse than that.

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Speaker 3: at one twenty five.

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Speaker 2: OTA.

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Speaker 3: So that's the organized team activities. It is voluntary with

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Speaker 3: the quotes.

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Speaker 2: Volunteer you better show up out of that.

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Speaker 3: But it's this mandatory and voluntary white you here, Where

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Speaker 3: are you at? So there's not a kicker on the

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Speaker 3: roster that is a veteran kicker that we have trust, time,

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Speaker 3: proof and consistency that we've seen here heck Ma that

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Speaker 3: but that that concerns me.

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Speaker 2: More than the running back room.

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Speaker 3: Because there was a guy available at Robbie Gold and

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Speaker 3: he's now off the market.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a stupid problem to have right now

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Speaker 4: at this point again again, like here we are again,

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Speaker 4: and I mean the meltdown of our kicker last season

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Speaker 4: was just a good thing. We were able to overcome

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Speaker 4: that in a playoff win, but could have cost us

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Speaker 4: right it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand how we keep arriving back at the

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Speaker 4: same point.

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Speaker 2: And Bones Fossil, as.

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Speaker 4: Much as he's been celebrated as a special teams coach,

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Speaker 4: it seems like Greg leg whoever you got, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, go through your roller decks of guys that

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Speaker 4: you have, because this is just a dumb problem. Of

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Speaker 4: all the problems that we have, this is the one

734
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Speaker 4: that is so inconvenient.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know where they're gonna go. Especially when

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Speaker 2: I saw Robbie.

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Speaker 4: Lee like that, I'm like, oh, I know it's going

738
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: to go after that, dude. And we did not in

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Speaker 4: this and all the guys that are left out there

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Speaker 4: in free agency, unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: The guys that have been here before, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I really, like I said, man, I

743
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: just think this is a silly problem to have, man.

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00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: And here we are again for a team that plans

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Speaker 4: on running the ball as much as Mike McCarthy said,

746
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: you just you just have to understand that you're probably

747
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna be in situations where you're inside the thirty five.

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Speaker 2: It's fourth and four.

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Speaker 4: You got to make the decision on what you're gonna

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Speaker 4: do kick the field goal, which if you don't have

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Speaker 4: a kicker you could trust. Now you got to figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to drop your best fourth and four

753
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Speaker 4: play consistent and stresses you out.

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00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: It stresses you out.

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00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: It stresses you out as a fan base, It stresses

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Speaker 4: you out as an organization and ownership. So you gotta

757
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: be able to have trust in a guy to say,

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00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 4: hey man, we need a fit the yard on right now,

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Speaker 4: go kick it and feel confident that they're going to

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Speaker 4: make it and not be holding your breath every time

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Speaker 4: it goes up, because that's what we've been feeling like

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Speaker 4: the last two years.

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Speaker 2: It is a horrible problem to having.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully somebody becomes available or there's a guy who just says,

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Speaker 4: hey man, I got way better.

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Speaker 2: Than I was last year and I'm gonna show you.

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Speaker 4: That's the hope that I have to have, right because,

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Speaker 4: like you said, Robbie goes off the market, and like

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Speaker 4: I said, I played with the guy he's a great kicker,

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Speaker 4: great leader. Uh, you know, he on the special teams,

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Speaker 4: he led out he led us out there as the kicker.

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Speaker 2: So it was tough to see him go. But hopefully

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Speaker 2: we find another guy. How much is a dumb problem?

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Speaker 5: How many times that we you know last year? Oh man,

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Speaker 5: I don't know that it's a thirty five, it's a

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Speaker 5: forty yard field.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. And then the playoffs

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Speaker 2: we ended up having to go for it because he

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Speaker 2: had the yips.

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Speaker 5: And so to me, man, like you said, this is

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Speaker 5: just a dumb problem to have, and we should have

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Speaker 5: been this in the but but you know, once again

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Speaker 5: we're going bargain shopping for of an important position.

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Speaker 2: Huh. He don't know nothing about that. He don't know

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Speaker 2: nothing about that storm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandon mcm this was cut by the Broncos last month.

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Speaker 3: It was a part of that Tuper Bowl winning team.

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Speaker 2: Nine seasons that I think.

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Speaker 4: Kicking an altitude huh, no altitude.

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Speaker 2: And no altitude. So I mean, there's there's guys. It's

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Speaker 2: it's scary to me.

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Speaker 3: That's I'm more worried about that than running back. Fine,

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Speaker 3: it's clearly it's hard to find clutch kickers.

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Speaker 4: And based off of the margin of victory, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think you talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: The margin of victory in the NFL is two to

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Speaker 4: three points, and that could be that can be the

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Speaker 4: difference in the win loss. And I don't want to

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Speaker 4: see a fourth and fourth play. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: see it. You get down in the red zone and

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Speaker 4: it's a parent that the field goal will work for

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Speaker 4: you here and put your defense back out on the field,

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Speaker 4: because that's what we're gonna have. We're gonna have a

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00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: defense this year that's gonna be able to shut people down,

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00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: get the ball back for the offense. But look, things

806
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Speaker 4: are not always clicking. And if you can take three points,

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Speaker 4: get off the field, put your defense back out there,

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Speaker 4: that works better than going gobbling up all this time

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Speaker 4: off the clock, getting down the red zone and then

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Speaker 4: getting nothing. Like as you watch the game, you understand

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Speaker 4: the pressure and the fourth and whatever it's like when

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Speaker 4: you have to go get it. Like when you watching

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Speaker 4: the game, you're like, oh, man, like hair turning gray?

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Speaker 4: Everything right, And you could you could easily take that

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Speaker 4: away by having you a kicker that you can trust man,

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Speaker 4: going all the days of Dan Bailey when he was

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Speaker 4: knocking the things through right down every time, going to

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Speaker 4: those days. But hopefully we get that, get that, get

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Speaker 4: that fixed, or you know those plays that Mike McCarthy's

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Speaker 4: on the lab, he's gonna be using them a lot.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be using them a lot.

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Speaker 3: So Cowboys getting back at it. They will meet with

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Speaker 3: the media today, eager to hear from Mike McCarthy. Is uh,

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Speaker 3: maybe that maybe, maybe maybe I ask the kicker question

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Speaker 3: to him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I'd be nice NEWI.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you knew with some questions in there that you know.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the several media meetings where you're sitting in there, man,

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Speaker 4: and I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Like that's new here asking that question.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, why you have to do this at a

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Speaker 3: press cause I thought you just did this is the

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Speaker 3: players loud asked about Josh Ball for you, Well let's go,

834
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Speaker 3: and McCarthy love, Well, let's go.

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Speaker 2: He's doing good.

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Speaker 3: Come around ball. You know he's going to move a

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Speaker 3: little inside.

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Speaker 2: And hey, red crumb boy walk right into it. I

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Speaker 2: will say, my dude.

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Speaker 3: I learned a lot from the parcels pressers, and I

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Speaker 3: learned a lot from Jason's pressers. Jason was all about

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Speaker 3: what he didn't say, what he wouldn't say. Hey, that's

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Speaker 3: about Danny. K You know what, Danny McCrae is a

844
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Speaker 3: ball loving guy. Okay, he's here all the time. You

845
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Speaker 3: never have to worry about him working. Well, what about

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Speaker 3: you know, so and so and such and such. We

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Speaker 3: like the way he's coming. You know, he's here, he's working,

848
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: trying to get better each day. He's you know, he's

849
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Speaker 3: just putting in that work. You know, he not he

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Speaker 3: not praised him. So that's how I found out how

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Speaker 3: Jason felt about dudes. And I'm starting to figure out

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Speaker 3: how McCarthy is. And so Josh Ball he talked about

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Speaker 3: even playing inside. We're like, well we heard about this

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Speaker 3: a six seven guard, but you're gonna get his flex on.

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Speaker 2: But you love him. Let's go over there to me.

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Speaker 3: I've told a whole lot Josh Ball, Well, not on

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Speaker 3: your way. This key camp for you, Key camp for you.

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Speaker 3: You know you right, you better come with it him,

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Speaker 3: boss man Fat. That's probably what I'm started trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out who the dudes that are in trouble though,

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Speaker 3: Boss Man Fat put out say.

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Speaker 2: Not in trouble. I say this to year Hey, who

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Speaker 2: are you? I mean for ota?

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Speaker 4: Is anybody that you looking at besides Boss Boss Man

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Speaker 4: Fat and uh tober doesn't that needs to have a

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Speaker 4: really good camp, need to have a really good camp

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Speaker 4: or just player that you got your eye.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I'm not worried about toberd as much because they're

869
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Speaker 3: not letting the third round guy go in year two.

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Speaker 2: There, They're not. He's gonna be here. He's gonna be here.

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Speaker 2: You know what. Okay, you know what I got on

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Speaker 2: that on my side, I got time.

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Speaker 3: This is this is my twenty be the twenty sixth

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Speaker 3: camp of Cowboys. I watched and I have seen I've

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Speaker 3: seen dudes like this, and you know.

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Speaker 2: What, they keep him around.

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Speaker 3: When I sat there one time, I'm like, you know,

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00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: they probably should cut Dwayne good Rich.

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Speaker 2: This dude not it?

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Speaker 3: Even talking to players on the team like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: he ain't that serious? What they do they kept around?

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Speaker 3: Why because he took him in the second round. Then

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Speaker 3: he do nothing. He went out and had his issues

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Speaker 3: and we know how that worked out, right, So so

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Speaker 3: jay O Tober's here.

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Speaker 2: Anybody else you're looking at? Jordan Lewis.

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Speaker 4: I want to see the commentary because what we saw,

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Speaker 4: the what we saw Duran Bland dou last year, You're

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Speaker 4: gonna have to you gotta really step up. No, not

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Speaker 4: as being cut, but as having your playtime.

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Speaker 2: Hey b is in that conversation too. What's he gonna

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Speaker 2: do with me? Some of these guys just gonna be

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Speaker 2: on courge. When you gonna come back and manure? It's

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Speaker 2: time there, it's time.

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Speaker 3: Ago, It's time to man He had a woman, Farry Church, Hackmherrison,

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Speaker 3: Danny McCrae was strack, which all thank you will.

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Speaker 2: Jazz Chris Bean.

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Speaker 4: This ship overshaw Baby, I gotta see this guy me

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Speaker 4: in that right month.

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Speaker 2: Goodbye, fuckay Man.

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