1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Monday edition of The Clay and Buck Show kicks off 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: right now. I hope you all had a fantastic Thanksgiving. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I enjoyed mine very much. Clay, you enjoy your Thanksgiving. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't talked to you in many days. Yeah, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: we had an awesome time down in Florida. A lot 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: of beach football, lots of good times had by all. 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: So I hope everybody out there has gotten safely back 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: or will be getting safely back to their homes and 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: had great time with friends and families. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Really good get away. I'm sure there was a lot 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: of celebration among our crew still with the election outcome, 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: probably a lot of enjoyment. Maybe we can have some 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: fun stories about left wing Kamala voters and how they 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: handled Thanksgiving. But I thought it went pretty well. 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: A lot to be thankful for this holiday season, particularly. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: If your name is Hunter Biden a goal. We jump 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: right in. We got a lot of things we're gonna 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: talk to you about today. 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: We have Miranda Devine joining in the third hour, so 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: if you can stick around for that, She's Laptop from 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: Hell author filed the Hunter case more closely than really anybody, 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: and I think you'll want to hear what she has 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: to say about this. 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: And Clay, the big. 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: News that just broke last twenty four hours that Hunter 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Biden has been pardoned. 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: We're going to dive into this. 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: I was in New York City a lot of stories 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: about the crime and migrants specifically and migrant crime, which 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk with all of you about. 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: And you see. 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Migrants in the streets begging for money, and this is 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: really affected New York. As I was up there visiting 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: my family for the holiday, Cash Patel announced officially as 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Trump as his next pick for FBI director. Cash is 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: a friend of ours, a friend of the show. It's 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: who we had said we wanted. So when you get 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: what you want, you've just got to be happy, I think, 39 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: and thankful. So let's just see if he can get confirmed. 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: That's a whole other part of this. Oh and then 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of terrorists, gee hottists in Syria overran Aleppo 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: and people are a little bit concerned about what's going 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: on there. We'll see if we have time to dive 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: into some of that. Today I got to start Clay 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: with because there was a lot going into today and 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: then yesterday with the Hunter Biden pardon. We knew this 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: was going to happen, we actually said many times on 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the show, and I'm sure so many of you agreed 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: with us. But what was fascinating here as we see 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: this whole situation unfold, was that they pretended that they 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't know in the media because they wanted Joe Biden 52 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: win the election. They acted like they were so dumb. 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: We even have here here's well, do you want to 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: play our prediction? First, let's do the prediction. This is 55 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: one of This is going back in time, old school. 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I believe this is May nineteenth of twenty twenty two, 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: US saying that Hunter would get the pardon from Joe 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Biden as one of his final official acts. This one, 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: I gotta say, nailed. Let's listen to it. 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: He's going to pay a fine and he's going to 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: plead to some misdemeanor. There will be no jail time, right, 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: that's the like you think, like he's not actually gonna 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: go to trial and face. 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get charged, as you keep saying. 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: But like, but what I'm saying is he might Oh 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: you're saying he might get charged criminally. 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he get charged criminally. 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's gonna look, the reality is, I 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: think they'll try and and and drag it out because 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: I really think there's a strong chance that one of 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: his final acts in office, because I just I keep 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: watching Joe Biden buck and I just find it impossible 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: to believe that he's truly going to be able to 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: run for re election, And so I think one of 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: his final acts may be pardoning his son. 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: That was two years ago. But I mean, so that's 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a great call in advance. But I'm talking about Clay 78 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: the media after he was charged, and it was a 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: real thing, right, So you were getting that was an 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: ad d ants that was way in advance of the 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: whole story. The past six months, we've been hearing NonStop 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: or something like that, six months that Joe Biden's not 83 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna pardon his son, even though he's already been found guilty. 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Okay, you're you're. 85 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Talking about so to just to be clear, Clay here 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: is projecting out two years and was correct two years 87 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: in advance. But the story from the from the media 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: side of things is that Hunter is found guilty of 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: multiple felonies, is facing time in prison, and we have 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: can we just get some of these, you know, the 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: the montage we have of all the people in the media. 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: Let me say this too, Buck, I do think this 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: is evidence of how duplicitous and lying they are. I 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: don't think that you and I are uniquely geniuses and 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: analyzing the political landscape. 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: It was self evident. 97 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: The only way Biden wasn't going to pardon Hunter is 98 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: if there was some sort of Amala had won. I 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: think Kamala would have pardoned Hunter and that would have 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: let Biden off the hook for doing it. Or if 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: Trump in a handshake agreement they trusted each other and 102 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: Trump was going to do it. But the idea that 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: Joe was ever going to let Hunter go to prison 104 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: was on its face absurd to anyone with a functional 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: brain who is honest with their audience and tem If 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: we could, could we grab one of the times or 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: we said the last six months that one hundred percent 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: he's going to pardon Clay, and I totally agreed on 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: that one hundred percent he's going to pardon his son. 110 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: There's no it was laughable, And we said it was 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: laughable on the show that there was any way. 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: That his son was going to go to federal prison 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: while he's the president. Just it just was absurd. There 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: was no way. Meanwhile, in media land, this is cut too. 115 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Here's what in advance of the election, mind you, they 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: were all saying about this play it. 117 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: Presidential promise to put the law before a family, letting 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 5: the world know that he will not wipe away the 119 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: decision of twelve of his son's peers. The President has 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: ruled out pardoning his son. 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Major commitment from the President, accepting the outcome of the 122 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: trial and also pledging not to pardon his son. 123 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 5: One side, Democrats and Joe Biden protecting the justice system, 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: and on the other Republicans and Trump protecting Trump. Our 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: current president of the United States has so much respect 126 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: for the law that he has said he would not 127 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: pardon his son. I mean again, it's all about the contrast. 128 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: He is not pardoning his son, which he could do. 129 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: Everyone understands he's a decent man. 130 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 6: Joe Biden has gotten asked about, you know, talking about 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 6: line order. 132 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: He's gotten asked if he would pardon his son. 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 6: He has said no. 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: You heard the President say he would accept the outcome 135 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: of the case. 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: I know no other word for that, but presidential. 137 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: The contrast to how Trump has behaved, how Trump has 138 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: treated the rule of law. 139 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: This was a good day for the system. I just 140 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: look at this book. Can I ask you, yes, I think, 141 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: do you think they're really there's dumb? 142 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: Or were they all just staring into the camera saying 143 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: I think the audience is this dumb. 144 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: I think there are many people out there who see 145 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: their job on television not to tell you what they think, 146 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: but to tell you what their party wants them to 147 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: tell you to think. And this is really important, and 148 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: I would tell all of you, and you sense it, 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: because these audiences are collapsing. You sense it. But there's 150 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: a difference between you may or may not agree with 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: everything that Buck or I say on this show on 152 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: a daily basis. In fact, it would be impossible for 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: you to agree with every opinion. But we're not reading 154 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: talking points. And I think democrats uniquely left wing political commentators. 155 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: They go out and they say as if they are 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: an advocate or lawyer for their selfe as opposed to 157 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: actually looking at the facts and being somewhat rational or 158 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: reasonable and so Buck, I think they don't even. 159 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: Really worry about whether they believe it or not. 160 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: I think they worry about whether the people in power 161 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: watching them on television think that they're doing a good 162 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: job advancing the cause. And basically they're propagandist. And I 163 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with this From a legal perspective. 164 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Your lawyer should go out and make the best possible 165 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: case that he can for everything that you do. Like Karine, 166 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: Jean Pierre is a liar, but she's a liar because 167 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: she's being forced to try to cover for one of 168 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: the most daft and flagrantly dishonest men to ever be 169 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: in the White House. 170 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about Joe Biden. 171 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: Because Buck, they knew, according to NBC, of course they 172 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: did in June, that he was going to pardon Hunter 173 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: as soon as Hunter was convicted. Buck, it was self 174 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: evident that he was going to pardon. He was not 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: going to let Hunter go to prison. So if you 176 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: went out and argued, oh, this is a sign of 177 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: how much he believes in rule of law and justice, 178 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: you were either to your point. And I do think 179 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: it's a good question. A complete and total moron, which 180 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: I don't believe these people are, or such a die 181 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: hard member of the cult, which is what I think 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: they are, that they will not brook any dissent, and 183 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: so you have to say whatever the deer leader says 184 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: is the truth. 185 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: I also think that there's some really good things that 186 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: come out of this. Okay, let's let's just get to 187 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: the happy part of this equation for a moment, or 188 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the positive part of the equation. I saw you tweeted this, Clay. 189 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't want to tweet the same 190 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: thing because but I totally agree like. 191 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: Clay says it, Buck says, I think. 192 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: I think just conditional, I mean unconditional pardons for every 193 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: single one. Just this is this is you know, this 194 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: is purpose because they've already served If they've been prosecuted, 195 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: they've already served time, so they've already spent time in prison, 196 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: they've already had there, they've already been punished extensively, including 197 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: the ones who have you know, punched a cop or whatever. 198 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: They've already been punished. So pardons they get out. That's it, unconditional, 199 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: full scale everybody get out. And by the way, a 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: lot have been punished far more already than they should 201 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: have been. But that's why I so I think pardons 202 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: for J six. There's just no reason I can see 203 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: there's no feasible reason not to have that. And then 204 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: also it just is a reminder. It kind of goes 205 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: with the Cash Patel appointment, which is the people who 206 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: are simultaneously proclaiming how they are the great defenders of 207 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: the DOJ and of our justice system have been flouting 208 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the justice system themselves and are using it as a 209 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: weapon against their political opponents. And this is just not 210 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: something that can be sustained. This is not something that 211 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: can continue if we're going to live in a free society. 212 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: I think it gives Cash Patel, assuming he can get 213 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: into FBI appointed, you know, or confirmed a mandate. 214 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I think we need to dive into more of 215 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: these details too, buck on not only how much of 216 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: liars they were that this happened, but I will say 217 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: my jaw dropped a little bit when I saw how 218 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: expansive the pardon was. 219 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: It's ten years. 220 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Of basically anything Hunter Biden did, going all the way 221 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: back to twenty fourteen. Because they're trying to say, oh, well, 222 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: Biden's son is being targeted for political prosecution and this 223 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: is unfair and all of those they wait a minute. 224 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, Joe Biden was Vice president. Joe Biden was 225 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: not running for president. We thought that his political career 226 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: was over in twenty sixteen when Hillary got the nod 227 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: from from Barack Obama a full decade of free and 228 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: clear get out of jail free card. I'm not sure 229 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: we've ever seen a level of pardon that is this 230 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: expansive buck ten years. Everything he did, there are no 231 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: charges allowed to be brought, and he committed a lot 232 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: of crimes. 233 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: It's an admission that his son is a criminal, meaning 234 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: that it's not one thing that he did. He has 235 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: lived his life for the last decade as a criminal, 236 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: because he doesn't even know if he could cover all 237 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: the different crimes that his son committed, never mind what 238 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: may or may not be covered in the statutal limitations, 239 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: et cetera. So yeah, it's this just shows you, no, Clay, 240 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: what a fraud the media was by lying about the 241 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: pardon that you and I and every we all knew. 242 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: We all knew, right, No, this is not I noticed. 243 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: We're not even years. 244 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: Could have gotten four to one while we say we 245 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: all knew polymarket you could have gotten four to one 246 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: payout on will Joe Joe Biden pardon his son so 247 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people were not betting this would happen. 248 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, we should have put 249 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: every down him. Sad. 250 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Now I'm really bummed out because to me, this was 251 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: the most obvious thing in the entire world. But I 252 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: would just say, not only do they lie about it 253 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: so much, but it's just a really reminder to everybody. 254 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's a scumbag. Okay, he will lie to you 255 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: about anything. 256 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: He lies and lies and lies some more about things 257 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: that he also pretends to be honorable about, right, I mean, 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: that's the thing he's defending, the rule of law. Joe 259 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: Biden has always been this way. He has never been 260 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: a good man. He has never been an honorable man. 261 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: And so all these people lecturing us about Trump and 262 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: trump Ism and all the rest of it, look at 263 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: who they put forward. Yeah, I just think it's an 264 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: important reminder of how just dirty and disgraceful the whole 265 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Biden family is. By the way, there may be other pardons. 266 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: He may sneak through a few more for whatever his 267 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: brother's name is. Yeah, just preventative, just preventative pardons. 268 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Who knows, No, I agree, And that's what we need 269 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: to talk about too, because really this isn't about protecting Hunter. 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: If you look at the ten year window here about 271 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: protecting Joe. Everybody's like, oh, he's selfless, he's a dad, 272 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: he's protecting his son. No, no, no, no, he's protecting himself too. 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: He's trying to insulate himself from all political charges and 274 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: all felony charges, which honestly he should face. Look, if 275 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: you need some vin, bigger and vitality back in your life, 276 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: how many of you be honest on this Monday? 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The world has gone insane. Reclaim 297 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 7: your sanity with Clay and Funding. Find them on the 298 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 7: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 299 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Uh. 300 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: I just saw this and I think it's tied in. 301 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: There is a reordering that is going on right now 302 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: in the media that is massively important, and I think 303 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: it's got long range consequence. MSNBC Buck just hit a 304 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: twenty year ratings low. They had just thirty eight thousand 305 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: viewers in the twenty five to fifty four targeted age 306 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: group range that tends to consume media and be very 307 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: valuable for advertisers. That's unheard of, and what's going on. 308 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: I got a thesis for you. You'll like it, Buck, because 309 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: it takes you back in time to the nineteen eighties. 310 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: The best in my humble opinion, when I was a kid, 311 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm now ready to recognize that I was wrong. I 312 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: thought the best Indiana Jones movie, Buck, was Temple of 313 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Doom in the nineteen eighties. In retrospect, it's the worst 314 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: of the nineteen eighties era movies. The Last Crusade I 315 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: think is the best. Then Raiders of the Lost Arc, 316 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: then Temple of Doom. They're all very good. We're not 317 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: talking about the two additional ones. But there is a 318 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: moment in that movie, Temple of Doom, where Indiana Jones 319 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: has drank the blood serum and has lost his ability 320 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: to think rationally, and he is a member of the 321 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: cult that is supporting this Indian priest. Spoiler alert, by 322 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: the way, if you hadn't said, if you haven't seen 323 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: Temple of Doom, and short Round runs up to him 324 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: and burns him, and when he has burned, he suddenly 325 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: sees the truth. An optimist in me, Buck thinks that 326 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: Trump's election for a lot of the woke American population 327 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: has had that Short Round branding Indiana Jones and waking 328 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: him up from the cult that they were a part 329 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: of moment, and there's evidence for this. And I've been 330 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: asking this question. If you had been lied to about 331 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: everything surrounding COVID, if you'd been lied to about very 332 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: fine people and Donald Trump being a Nazi and all 333 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: these things, at some point, wouldn't you have to wake up? 334 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you have to recognize that much of what you 335 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: had come to believe was actually false. I think there 336 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: is finally a reckoning taking place at MSNBC at CNN, 337 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: with many different left wing commoners out there, And this 338 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: latest Biden pardon of Hunter is yet another thing. You 339 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: may not agree with this show on a day to 340 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: day basis, but over the last four years, we've gotten 341 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: almost everything that is very consequential. 342 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: Right. 343 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: We've told you where things were headed, we've told you 344 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: what the outcomes were likely to be. And when we're wrong, 345 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: and I was wrong about twenty two twenty two, we 346 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: come on and say, hey, we got something wrong. 347 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard anybody explained why we think it 348 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: got it was? 349 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: You know? 350 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: And they're not standing now because we nailed this election boom. 351 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: But some people being a little bit of doubting, you know, 352 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: being a little bit of doubters would say, well, what 353 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: about the red wave in twenty twenty two. 354 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: There was a surge of Republican voters. It just surged 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: in the wrong places at the wrong time to get 356 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: the electoral outcome we wanted. New York California Republicans were 357 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: able to deliver the House because there were a lot 358 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: more read votes there. 359 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: And you know, look, we had a couple of week candidates. 360 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Things didn't go your way, but that wasn't off by 361 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot. The media that we're talking about, I mean 362 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Clay they said, not only the hunter, Biden wasn't going 363 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: to get pardon. They told everybody that Joe Biden was fine. 364 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: I think in the back of people's minds, the cover 365 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: up of the Biden dementia situation, which MSNBC were huge, 366 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, the vanguard, they were the cheerleaders for cheerleaders 367 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: for this. To anyone who is discerning and paying attention 368 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: to the narrative creation machinery that is the news media, 369 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: you had to look at everything that they were going 370 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: to say about the twenty twenty four election. Anybody who 371 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: said that Biden's fine, well, clearly he wasn't and clearly 372 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: they should have known that, and clearly they did know that. 373 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: So everything else they say about Kamala, you gotta think. 374 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: These people are liars. 375 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: And how about the fact that they pivoted from Kamala 376 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: is the worst VP and they potentially should consider replacing 377 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: her to joy Read on election night claimed that she 378 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: ran a flawless campaign. 379 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: And then my favorite of an election night analysis, by 380 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: the way, that was the best thing set all in 381 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: all election night. 382 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: Can we pull that, by the way, because I think 383 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: she said, do you remember what she followed it up with, 384 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: she ran such a flawless campaign. 385 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: You know who endorsed Joe Biden? 386 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, Kamala Harris, Queen Latifa, that was I mean, 387 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: I'm not even making this up. 388 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: This was her argument. 389 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: Joy Read at the collapsing MSNBC network said that Kamala 390 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: ran such a phenomenal campaign that even Queen Latifa, who 391 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: never endorses anybody, endorsed Kamala Harris. 392 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: Kid. 393 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: The one thing that I feel very confident of buck 394 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: is celebrity endorsements is basically over. 395 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, like as I. 396 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: Think social media has okay, social media first undermined the 397 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: people at the New York Times, who at ten am 398 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: would put out on Twitter Trump is Hitler and then 399 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: go on CNN at seven pm and say, well, I'm 400 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: just a journalist. I don't have opinions. That was the 401 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: beginning of the end for them because we saw it 402 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: was a matter of public record in a sense, what 403 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: they really thought. And with celebrities, you know, we figured 404 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: out they are really really dumb. Not all of them, right, 405 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: there are smart celebrities, and they are smart celebrities who 406 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: don't agree with us. I'm not saying that everybody who 407 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: votes Democrat who's a celebrity is dumb, but a lot 408 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: of the pop culture political voices out there, you know, 409 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: and you know now they're saying that Clooney felt like 410 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: he was bullied into bullying Biden out of the race. 411 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: These people have just no shame, They have no brain, 412 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: and they're trying all this stuff. But because we see 413 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: them on social media and they can expose what they 414 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: really think. Did you see the Jane Fonda thing with 415 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Bill Maher. I mean, I know she's she's an older woman. 416 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Did you see these some of these clips play She 417 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: doesn't think that California has enough regulation. She's living on 418 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: another planet. She lives in a reality that does not exist. 419 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: I have done enough TV and even some movies, Thank 420 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: you Daily Wire. The idea that actors and actresses are 421 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: uniquely smart and perceptive on anything is maybe the dumbest 422 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: thing that has ever taken root in American modern history. 423 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: The data reflects that the more obsessed you are with celebrities, 424 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: the dumber you yourself tend to be. And I'm not 425 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: saying I don't like watching television shows or whatever else, 426 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: but they're actors and actresses like they actually don't have 427 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: a great depth of knowledge in anything else. They sit 428 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: around in a trailer all day, memorize a few lines, 429 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: go out and do it like twenty five different times. 430 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: I would be bored to death being an actor. I've 431 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: done movies, I've done television. I've filmed a lot of 432 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: stuff over the years. We are live right now, you 433 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: and I talking. 434 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: Thank the Lord. 435 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: Everything we say, for better or worse, goes out to everybody. 436 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 2: If we had to do the same take over and 437 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: over and over again, I would shoot myself in the 438 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: head like these are awful in many ways jobs for 439 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 2: many people out there. The idea that we ever allowed 440 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: these people to be considered voices of unique perception in 441 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: America has been exploded. I also think Buck, there's a 442 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: whole there's so much celebrity now that it. 443 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: Used to be there was mystery. It's diffuse, it's a 444 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: it's a it's look in the in the modern era. 445 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: If you're a one, If you're a young woman who 446 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: is just outrageously good looking, like you won the genetics lottery, 447 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: and you want to be famous, there's one hundred percent 448 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: chance you're gonna be famous. 449 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. 450 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: And if you're a young guy and you know, you 451 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: really want to find a way and you're willing to 452 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of work on your craft or whatever. I'm talking 453 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: about these YouTubers and you know, Instagram and TikTok, which 454 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: by the way, isn't being banned. And now Trump is 455 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: on and conservatives are on. It was just me and 456 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: Jamal Bowman for a while, their play Me and my 457 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: buddy Jamal Bowman. You standing off that TikTok. 458 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: I was partly on the Jamal Bowman Buck Buck Sexton train. 459 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: I wanted and I still think it's important that Chinese 460 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: interests not be able to own TikTok. 461 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: But I think that company should exist. 462 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: You can't just like smash a company because it has 463 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: some foreign ownership and you're just deciding you don't like it. 464 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a really bad pres And so anyway, 465 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: it's also really fun. I've learned how to seer and 466 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: reverse seer and suvid steaks like nobody's business thanks to TikTok. 467 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: A lot of good gun content by the way, on 468 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: well YouTube. 469 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: Particularly with TikTok as well. 470 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: So until they probably get rid of it all soon, Clay, 471 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: I would just say the ability to be famous for 472 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: nothing that requires discipline and honestly a lot of luck. 473 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: Is it's easier to get famous now that it's ever been. 474 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: So being really famous doesn't really mean all that much. 475 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: It's it's less powerful than it used to be to 476 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people. You know, there was a time 477 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: when if you were a top Hollywood actor, every pronouncement 478 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: you would make on everything was somehow in the news. 479 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: Oh you know. And this is also I think this. 480 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Is to the to the discredit or to the the weakening. 481 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Not to get into this conversation, and we are going 482 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: to talk about New York City migrants coming up in 483 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: the next hour and what I saw there and what's 484 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: going on. Also the Daniel pennycase, the updates on that, 485 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: so more news coming. Wait a second, but Clay a 486 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: British royal family. They were kind of the original reality 487 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: TV show Superstars in a sense, or reality Superstars, And 488 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: I just think now there's just so much other noise 489 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: out there that it doesn't sell newspapers quite the way 490 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: it used to. 491 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also this is the other thing that 492 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: I think is huge in terms of the way the 493 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: media is shattering and being rebuilt in real time. 494 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: It used to be someone who. 495 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: Had a platform had to say I'm going to make 496 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: you famous. You got selected to be on Friends, you 497 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: became a columnist at the New York Times. Somebody put 498 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: you on MSNBC or ESPN or Fox News or whatever 499 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: it was and basically said you're going to be famous. 500 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: Not to say those people are not talented, but that 501 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: was somebody on high producers owners. They decided who the 502 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: figures were that we all saw and that we're famous. 503 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: To your point, now, anybody can become famous instantaneously on TikTok, 504 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: on YouTube, on Instagram. I'm not saying it doesn't take work, 505 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: but the top down model of I'm going to make 506 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: you famous does not really exist in the same way. 507 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: It's a bottom up policy. And again, the name on 508 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: the back of the jersey, the way that I would 509 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: sum that up, matters more now than the name on 510 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: the front. It used to be like, I'm with the 511 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: Washington Post, and therefore you should talk to me. And 512 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: now a lot of people are like, so, what, like 513 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: the top down mantra in media is collapsing. 514 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: You know, I've been in this game, especially on the 515 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: conservative media side of things. Play well, I've been a 516 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: consumer of it for oh my gosh, I don't know now, 517 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: like almost thirty years, and working in it for almost 518 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: fifteen years. And this is kind of the dream of 519 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: conservative media commentary, stretching back to the know, the early 520 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: days of Rush and then and then the rise of 521 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: the Internet and Fox News, and would be that the 522 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Washington Post no longer held any sway over the public 523 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: mind outside of their own very partisan readership. And I 524 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: think we're we're pretty much there or getting close to there, 525 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: meaning no one I know. A perfect example of this 526 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: is when The New York Times ran a front page 527 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: article on Tucker Carlson saying he's a white nationalist, and 528 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: everybody who wasn't emotionally destabilized by Trump laughed and was like, yeah, sure, Tucker, right, 529 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: nice try. And by the way, to Tucker's credit, he 530 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: posed posed with the article, laughing at it, and it 531 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: got far more distribution than the actual article itself. 532 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 533 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: So some of these psychological chains bonds that the corporate media, 534 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: that the establishment corporate media has had, they are they 535 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: are actually broken right now, and some are still breaking. 536 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: Some are broken. 537 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: But this is a big change, which is also why 538 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I think the Democrats are trying to figure out what 539 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: do they do now, how do they try to stand 540 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: away this administration. We'll take some of your calls here 541 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: coming up, and like I said, we'll talk about some 542 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: of the migrant and border issues and stuff that's going 543 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: on in New York City where I just was coming 544 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: up here in a moment. In twenty sixteen, Brad Thomas 545 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: was tapped to become an advisor to the President. 546 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: For good reason. 547 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: He's an expert in the world's largest asset, an asset 548 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: that's bigger than stocks and bonds combined. It led him 549 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: a mass over a billion dollars in business transactions and 550 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: launch his own New York Stock Exchange list at ETF, 551 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: not to mention to develop a network of extremely wealthy contacts. 552 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: But Brad's mission is to help everyday investors in the 553 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: stock market using insights he's gained from his network. A 554 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: small group of his followers could have seen forty four 555 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: percent annualized gains per year over five years. Now he's 556 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: opening membership to his research in a whole new way. 557 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: It begins with his top investment opportunity, which could deliver 558 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: huge game as a new administration moves into the White House. 559 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: He insists it's one of several investments you must move 560 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: your money into before the end of twenty twenty four. 561 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Go check it out for yourself. Do your own research here. 562 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: Go to Bradlert dot com. That's b r Ad Bradlert 563 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Brad Thomas has agreed to share this information 564 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: with you. That's Bradlert dot com. Paid for by wide 565 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Mote Research. 566 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: Two guys walk up to a mic. 567 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 8: Anything goes Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton. Find them on 568 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 8: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 569 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of news to get to if 570 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: you Hunter. Biden pardoned yesterday full pardon, stretching back for 571 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: a decade. We told you it was gonna happen. It 572 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: was obvious, it happened. The media lied. They have no credibility. 573 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: They are scrambling. The Democrats have no leader. They are scrambling. 574 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: And it's a good time to be alive, good time 575 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: to be an American, my friends. The other thing that 576 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: just broke now play sharing this out on Twitter from 577 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's truth account, which now also has a 578 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: mirror account on x and increasingly I think Elon is right. 579 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: This is going to be where the news would you 580 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: and I do Clay is commentary, context, entertainment, engagement, but 581 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: just the raw sharing of data. That's what CNN is 582 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be, but clearly isn't right. That's what these 583 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: news organizations like the Washington Post are supposed to be, 584 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: but clearly aren't. Trump put this out and here's it 585 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: has to do with the hostages being held by Hamas 586 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: he writes, everybody's talking about the hostages who are being 587 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: held so violently, inhumanely and against the will of the 588 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: entire world in the Middle East. But it's all talk 589 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: and no action. Please let this truth serve to represent 590 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: that if the hostages are not released prior to January twentieth, 591 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office 592 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: as President of the United States, there will be all 593 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: hell to pay in the Middle East, and for those 594 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity, Those responsible 595 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in 596 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: the long and storied history of the United States of America. 597 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: All caps, release the hostages now, Clay, I understand what 598 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: the people who are opponents of Trump are going to say. 599 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: They're say, oh, it's bluster hole. On a second, right, 600 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: you and I know there's a there's a history here. 601 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: What did Donald Trump do when he came into office 602 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: when it when it came to dealing with Isis, he said, 603 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: increase the strikes, let the commanders on the ground make 604 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: the call, take the fight to the enemy, destroy them, 605 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: and it happened. What did he do with the Boogeyman, 606 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the the single really highest value target of 607 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: the entire Iraq war on the Shia side of the equation, 608 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: which is cost some solemany Donald Trump manner chief, had 609 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: him vaporized in Iraq because we got sick of him 610 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: killing Americans for sport. This is a guy who anybody, 611 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: I think has to take seriously when it comes to 612 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: making threats of this nature. I think the Biden administration 613 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of a pass from the media 614 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: on the fact that there are Americans, There are American 615 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: citizens held by Hamas, and Israel's done a great job 616 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: of retribution and justice when it comes to tagging and 617 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: bagging members of Hamas and Hezbola. But Trump is saying, 618 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: you guys better figure out what's going on here real quick, 619 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: or else the Trumpster's coming. 620 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: For those of you who. 621 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: Are old enough to remember it, Jimmy Carter's failure to 622 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: get American hostages back from Iran was a huge reason 623 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: why Donald why Ron Reagan came in and won in 624 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. The fact that Joe Biden has been to 625 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: Israel at least one and I think multiple times and 626 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: has never said while he was there, if the American 627 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: hostages aren't returned before I leave, I will rain down 628 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: holy hell on you is an ultimate indictment of Biden 629 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: and his administration, but also of the media for their 630 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: failure to cover American hostages in Gaza like they did 631 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: the American hostages in Iran. And this is important and 632 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: it isn't talked about enough, but bad guys only respond 633 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: to threats of force. You don't reason your way to 634 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 2: calibration with Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong un or Chairman 635 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: z or the Ayatola Iran, China, North Korea and Russia 636 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: are not going to be talked off the ledge from 637 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: doing something. It's why on this program we have pointed 638 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: out and I've never heard a good example for it. 639 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 2: Why did October seventh not happen when Trump in office? 640 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Why did Ukraine not get invaded by Russia when Trump 641 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: was in office? If Trump was so weak and if 642 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 2: Putin was playing him for such a fool, why didn't 643 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 2: he invade then because he was afraid of what Trump 644 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: might do? Why didn't Hamas attack on October seventh when 645 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 2: Trump was in office because they were afraid of what 646 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: Trump might do? These huge authoritarian dictators, they're bullies. Trump 647 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: has seen these kind of people his entire life. Buck, 648 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: you grew up in New York City. You know there's 649 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: a lot of mafia dudes involved in every construction project, 650 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: and they only respond when you actually are willing to 651 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: stand up to them, and they fear what you might. 652 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 3: Do to them. 653 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: Just like when you're in the school yard, the bully 654 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: doesn't suddenly get talked off being a bully. Sooner or 655 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: later somebody has to smack him in the face and 656 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: the behavior changes. 657 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: I also think that it'd be very hard for the 658 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: opponents of Trump in this country to make the case 659 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: that this is all bluster, considering that they have turned 660 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: almost it's almost a religious belief or a mantra for 661 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: them that Trump is going to go after them, right, yes, 662 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: And they were the ones who were saying, oh, my gosh, 663 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump says Seal Team six can assassinate his rivals, 664 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and saying that he might do really 665 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Well, if they're going to argue that he's 666 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: going to do crazy stuff inside of America, which let 667 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: me just reiterate, is crazy and he's not going to 668 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: do it. But it's hard for them to say, oh, 669 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: but he's going to draw the line when it comes 670 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: to Hamas terrorists because you and I and a lot 671 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: of other people in the ribots sit here and say 672 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: Anamas down, anybody involved, do whatever you gotta do. Get 673 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: our hostages back. They've had plenty of time to try 674 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: to negotiate. They'll want to negotiate. Now it's got to 675 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: be warheads on foreheads. 676 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: I would also point this out again, the schoolyard bully 677 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 2: is a good analogy. Everybody has experienced this in their life. 678 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: And Trump is great. 679 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: I think the thing that he does better than maybe 680 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: any president in any of our lives is when he 681 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: feels like he has an inch of negotiating leverage, he 682 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: exploits it, exploits it, exploits it. I don't think he's 683 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: gonna put a twenty five percent tariff on Canadian goods 684 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: or Mexican goods, for instance. 685 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: We haven't talked about this a great deal, but he might. 686 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 2: There might be a five percent chance that he's gonna 687 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: do it one in twenty And if he did it, 688 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: it would cripple Canada and it would cripple Mexico, and 689 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: the United States would go right along because we're the 690 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: dominant force in this region. 691 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: For a long time. 692 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: It feels to me, and I know many of you 693 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: out there know exactly what I'm talking about, like we 694 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: have behaved like like we are. We've done something wrong 695 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: and We're begging for forgiveness all over the world. 696 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so sorry. 697 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: The obsequious nature of our apologies for everything has been 698 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 2: to me pathetic. And it has been exploited, exploited in Afghanistan, 699 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: it was exploited in Ukraine, it was exploited in Israel, 700 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: and it's certainly been exploited in our southern border, and 701 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: it's been exploited in our cities because so many people 702 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: have understood that the rule of law is not going 703 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 2: to be applied, and that violent misbehavior can run rampant 704 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: in our streets, and sooner or later, the bad guy, 705 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: and Trump's willing to be the bad guy, has to 706 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: show up and start smacking people around and show that 707 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: there are consequences. 708 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 3: And that, to me is so much of his talk is. 709 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: He's got to start cracking some skulls. Yes, and you 710 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: know this is I don't know how all of you 711 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: have seen the Breakfast Club, I assume, so you know 712 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I think, Clay that Trump coming 713 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: into office at this time is particularly fortuitous because Israel 714 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: is in a stronger position vis a vis its enemies 715 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: in the region that it has been in a very 716 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: long time. You'll notice you don't hear a lot of 717 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: you don't hear really any at least getting into our 718 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: news cycle vociferous protests from the Saudis or the Egyptians 719 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: really or these other states in the region. You know, 720 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: they might, for domestic political purposes, say some stuff, but 721 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: a lot of them are pretty happy to see Hamas 722 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: whittled down from what it had become. At least the 723 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: regimes are. Whether the Arab street degrees is another thing. 724 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: And I think that Trump is in a position now 725 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: to help Israel establish a much more lasting piece, which 726 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: requires the destruction of enemies were implacable, and that's really 727 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: where this is. I mean, there's no what Hamas showed 728 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: on October seventh, other than grotesque in humanity and war rhymes, 729 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: was that it can never be a partner for peace. 730 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: It can never be treated as an honorable entity that 731 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: will abide by contracts abide by its word. It is 732 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: an enemy combatant, the entire entity, and has to be 733 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: treated as such. And Trump's going to back them on 734 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: this one hundred percent. Trump's not going to do this 735 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: speaking out of one side of his mouth, speaking out 736 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: of the other, which Joe Biden and Kamala both tried 737 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: to do over the last year without success. 738 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 3: Really, I might add, and let me just also point 739 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: this out. 740 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: Some of you may say, well, I don't know why 741 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: we should be that concerned about what's going on in 742 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 2: the Middle East, and all I care about is America. 743 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: If you allow these people ruling these countries to think 744 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: that they can take action against Americans, they'll do it. 745 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: And I think Russia has done it. They've been taking 746 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: American prisoners. Remember we gave we got Britney Griner back 747 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 2: WNBA player, and they got the Merchant of Death. Guess 748 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: what the Merchant of Death is already doing buck procuring 749 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 2: arms for Russia to reign down war upon other parts 750 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 2: of the world's merchandising death. 751 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: The merchant to death crazy maybe could have predicted it. 752 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what's the Merchant of Death going to 753 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 2: do when he gets out of prison, Probably gonna merchandise 754 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: more death. What's Britney Griner going to do? She's going 755 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 2: to be a mediocre women's basketball player who got out 756 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: of jail because she's black and a lesbian, and that 757 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: is all that matters in identity politics of Leyden Democrat universe. 758 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of other people held hostage. Look, 759 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 2: but you incentivize the grabbing of hostages when you aren't 760 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: able to get your people home. Remember back in the day, 761 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: Rome had a rule if you and I'm paraphrasing, but 762 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: if you harm the hair of a Roman citizen, they 763 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: would track you down, no matter where it was in 764 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: their empire, and they would rain down holy hell upon you. 765 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: That used to be America's policy too. And now we've 766 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: just been to the knee and say, oh, we're sorry 767 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: because we had slavery in eighteen sixty and that means 768 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 2: that suddenly we don't have the moral authority to take 769 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: action today. 770 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: Those days are over. Absolutely, we'll take some calls. And 771 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: also remember we've got Miranda Divine joining us. Talk about 772 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: the big news right now, which is again Hunter Biden pardoned. 773 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 1: And I think these things are sort of different sides 774 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: of the coin, or different sides of the issue. Cash 775 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: Battel appointed to go to FBI, which is fantastic. Cash 776 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: is We said it here. We endorsed him, we wanted him, 777 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: He's the guy we know Cash. We'd have him on 778 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: the show. But I think everyone's kind of laying low 779 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: on the media, at least some of them are until 780 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: this stuff gets done. But yes, Cash Battel to be 781 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: at the FBI under Trump as director. There's the Christopher 782 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Ray issue. There is he gonna make Trump fire him? 783 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: How's that gonna go? And then there's also Hunter Biden 784 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: getting pardoned. So we'll get into all this, and I'll 785 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: tell you know, I was lucky this morning that that 786 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Clay was ready and in position because I had to 787 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: rush back from being at the doctor to see the 788 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: latest ultrasound of little Buck Junior. That's actually not not 789 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna be his name, but you know, we got a 790 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: little baby on the way, as you all know, is 791 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: my very exciting news to share with you before the holiday. 792 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: And this morning I was sure enough with Carrie and 793 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: we were looking at the little miracle growing inside her 794 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: and the whole ultrasound process. It's incredible what they can do, 795 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: showing us a little tiny fingers, little tiny toes, a 796 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: little heart beating, little brain, the whole thing, And it 797 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 1: reminded me of the work that Preborn is doing day 798 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: in and day out. Here's how Preborn operates. They want 799 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: to save lives and help moms build their families. This 800 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: is their mission day in and day out. They start 801 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: this process by welcoming pregnant mothers who are in that 802 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: moment of decision. You know, they're perhaps the unexpected pregnancy, 803 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: maybe they're getting pressure from a partner or family to 804 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: quote do something about the pregnancy. Well hold on, Preborn says, 805 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: just come in and meet your baby in the womb, 806 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: and they offer a free ultrasound and they are caring 807 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: and compassionate. 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Here you're like the 845 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: alpha chu Omega of all things Hunter Biden. Here we 846 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: are certainly the end of I guess a book of 847 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: the story. Maybe the end of the story, but uh, 848 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: we're here us. Clay asked me this in the break. 849 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: I didn't have a good answer unless it pertains maybe 850 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: to the sentencing and when that was scheduled for Why 851 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: do you think Joe came out with this now? 852 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, Hi, bucking Clay. Look, I think it's precisely because 853 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 6: the sentencing for the gun felony charges in Delaware was 854 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 6: coming up in eleven days, and then a few days 855 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 6: after that was the sentencing on the gun conviction or 856 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 6: guilty plea in California and the thory the tax squad, 857 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 6: and so I think he wanted to get out ahead 858 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 6: of that, probably because those convictions would have led to 859 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 6: serious jail time. If you look at just the US 860 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 6: sentencing guidelines, you would have seen, you know, around three 861 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 6: years is average for the tax fraud, especially if you 862 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 6: have a prior conviction, and then on the gun felony, 863 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 6: it would be average was about sixteen months, so that 864 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 6: was serious jail time. And I guess Joe Biden's trying 865 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 6: to maintain this fiction that his boy did nothing wrong. 866 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 2: Well, well, you know, we did a ton wrong. But 867 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: before we dive into that more, Miranda, you and Buck 868 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: hung out. Buck spoke at the New York Republican Club. 869 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 2: You can tell me if I've missed describing that. I 870 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: heard it went fantastically. Well, how much fun did you 871 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 2: guys have hanging out? And how did that overall go? 872 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a great time. Unfortunately I missed that 873 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 6: because I was having a wag you beef feast at 874 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 6: Beach Cafe, and so I couldn't actually see Buck. But 875 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 6: people were coming in after his speech and just raving 876 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 6: about it and saying how wonderful he'd been. So we 877 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 6: caught up a couple of days later and had a 878 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 6: trific time. 879 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: That was great. Thank you, Miranda, I was. It was 880 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: good to get to meet you and your your husband 881 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: Ron really enjoyed it. Now I'm wondering, sorry, back to 882 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden stuff here for a second, what do 883 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: you think now? Happens with the rest of the Biden family. 884 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: We've been getting this question too. I always forget the brothers. 885 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: I mean the Joe's brother's name, but you know, he 886 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: was kind of in the mix with a lot of 887 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: this stuff, right, and the ten percent for the big 888 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: guy and all this. Is it your expectation? I think 889 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: we all expected Hunter was going to get pardoned at 890 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: some point? Is it your expectation there could be additional pardons? 891 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: And do you give any credence to the he went 892 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: back ten years here to try to shut down investigation 893 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: not only of Hunter or prosecution olive Hunter, but any 894 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: of his perhaps unnamed co conspirators in some of this mess. 895 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean this pardon is not just about Hunter. 896 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 6: It's the pardon for Joe himself, because there's no other 897 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 6: reason to go back eleven years. That is unprecedented in 898 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 6: nobody has ever given such an all round, far reaching pardon. 899 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 6: Not even Nixon got one this long eleven years. You know, 900 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 6: it's not ten years. It's curious that it's eleven And 901 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 6: why is that? So I look back at the timeline 902 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 6: that I wrote up to the books, and you have 903 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 6: that's twenty fourteen. So February twenty fourteen was a Maidan revolution. 904 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 6: April of twenty fourteen, you have the Biden family swooping 905 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 6: in and making the most of that very corrupt and 906 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 6: you know, war torn country, and Hunter gets the one 907 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 6: million dollar a year gig on the board of this 908 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 6: corrupt energy company, Barisma, the most corrupt company in Ukraine, 909 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 6: which is saying something because it's the most corrupt country 910 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 6: in Europe. And Joe Biden was implicated in all of that, 911 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 6: and so by closing off any avenue for investigation, then 912 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 6: he's sort of hiding his own role. And that's exactly 913 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 6: the mo that we saw in that five year investigation 914 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 6: into Hunter in Delaware, where every trail of evidence that 915 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 6: led to Joe Biden, and there were a lot was 916 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 6: closed off. The IRIS whistleblowers investigator's turn whistle blowers told 917 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 6: us that told Congress that in sworn testimony that when, 918 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 6: for instance, they wanted to search a cottage on Joe 919 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 6: Biden's property there in Wilmington or outside of Wilmington, they 920 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 6: were denied and they were never able to ask witnesses 921 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 6: about the identity of the Big Guy, which was the 922 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 6: code name that Hunter's business partners had to use to 923 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 6: refer to Joe to cover up his involvement in the 924 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 6: family influence peddling scheme. So all roads lead back to Joe. 925 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 6: Hunter was the bag man, the big guy is the 926 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 6: one who's protecting himself. He's not just being a kind father. 927 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 6: And of course his brother, Jim Biden, Joe's younger brother, 928 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 6: Hunter's uncle, was very much involved in some of the 929 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 6: later deals, the China deals, and got considerable amount of money, 930 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 6: and he also is under investigation in sort of separate matters. 931 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 6: So I'm sure that Joe Biden will wait until the 932 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 6: traditional time when presidents issue pardons, the last day or 933 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 6: two of his presidency in January, you know, sort of 934 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 6: nineteen or eighteen, and issue a pardon for his brother. 935 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 6: And no doubt there will be others involved in the scheme, 936 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 6: whether they're family members, many family members. We know from 937 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 6: James Comber is very good investigation of the money trail 938 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 6: that there were I think something like a dozen different 939 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 6: Biden family members who received money from these these schemes, 940 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 6: extracting millions of dollars from shady oligarchs in Ukraine and 941 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 6: Romania and Kazakhstan and from CCP officials in China, so 942 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 6: maybe he'll want to issue a pardon to them, although 943 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,959 Speaker 6: I mean, some of them just received money. I guess 944 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 6: they weren't to know what their father where their father 945 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 6: got it. But also there'd be other I guess partners 946 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 6: of Hunters, Like there's a guy called Rob Walker in 947 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 6: Arkansas who was the conduit for a lot of this 948 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 6: money and then he parceled it out and fuddled it 949 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 6: out to Hunter and his family. So maybe he would 950 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 6: also get a pardon as much as anything to keep 951 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 6: his mouth shut. But I think when it comes to 952 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 6: people like Anthony Blincoln, who certainly assisted and met with 953 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 6: Hunter and assisted in covering up the laptop becall the 954 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 6: twenty twenty election, you know, if they received pardons, it's 955 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 6: an admission of guilt from them if you accept a pardon, 956 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 6: and so I'm not sure that they are going to 957 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 6: want to admit guilt because thus far they've been very 958 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 6: good at keeping their hands clean and pretending they had 959 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 6: nothing to do with it. 960 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: Miranda, you know better than anybody, And thank you so 961 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 2: much for coming on the past several years with us 962 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: and laying out just how many crimes Hunter had committed. 963 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is trying to make in his statement last night, 964 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: Hunter looked like the victim of political attacks and overreaching prosecution. 965 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: Based on everything you have written and everything you have 966 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 2: seen of Hunter's alleged crimes and now convicted crimes, do 967 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: you think Hunter received favorable or unfavorable treatment from the 968 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 2: justice system. 969 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just hilarious. Of course he got favorable treatment. 970 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 6: And you know, Joe Biden's quite right. He was singled 971 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 6: out for special treatment and it was not what Joe 972 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 6: is saying he was. In fact, the Department of Justice 973 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 6: bent over backwards to protect him and to make sure 974 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 6: that the investigators never got to do what they wanted. 975 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 6: I mean, initially the investigation into him was supposed to 976 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 6: cover bribery and money laundering and foreign agent violations on 977 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 6: top of the tax and the guns. This was a 978 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 6: much bigger investigation or way more serious allegations. And the 979 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 6: only reason that Hunter ended up being charged at all 980 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 6: with any felonies was because of those brave Iris whistleblowers. 981 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 6: This was the opposite of an unfair prosecution or an 982 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 6: unfair investigation. What was unfair what was done to the whistleblowers, 983 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,760 Speaker 6: and is still being done as they're being retaliated against 984 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 6: by Joe Biden's administration. 985 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 2: Miranda, now that we look at and you were talking 986 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: about all the different directions that the pardons in the 987 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: future can go, and also sort of the entire timing 988 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: of it, what comes next? What do you think Trump 989 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 2: should do associated with the Hunter Biden crime family when 990 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 2: he comes in. And I do think it's important, and 991 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 2: we mentioned this earlier, but isn't it astounding that Trump 992 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: has actually borne more political consequences for this simply by 993 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 2: asking about what happened in Ukraine and getting impeached than 994 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 2: anybody on the Biden crime family. 995 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 6: I know. I mean, isn't he just the perfect scapegoat. 996 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 6: He was impeached for the sins of Joe Biden. Joff 997 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 6: Biden was the one who actually did what Trump was 998 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 6: impeached for. He just held a billion dollars in aid 999 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 6: as a threat to ensure that the prosecutor who was 1000 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 6: investigating the company paying Hunter a million dollars a year 1001 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 6: was fired. And he did get fired, and the new 1002 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 6: prosecutor dropped all the charges and the investigation against the 1003 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 6: against Barisma and the owner who was enriching the Biden. 1004 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 6: So Donald Trump, his crime was to ask President Zelenski 1005 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 6: if he was going to do an investigation into the 1006 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 6: Bidens And of course that sent just alarm signals right 1007 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 6: through the deep state because they were complicit in covering 1008 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 6: up and they knew that their role in that cover 1009 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 6: up would come to the fore if the investigation into 1010 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 6: Joe Biden went ahead in Ukraine and all their dirty 1011 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 6: business that has led now to this tragic war in Ukraine. 1012 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 6: So I think the number one priority for Trump is 1013 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 6: going to be, and can see it with his installation 1014 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 6: of people like Cash Bettel at the FBI, It's going 1015 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 6: to be to root out the wrongdoers in the deep 1016 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:03,760 Speaker 6: state who covered up, who can fired to censor our 1017 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 6: stories about Hunter Biden and thus to basically rig the 1018 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 6: twenty twenty election to ensure that derogatory information about Joe 1019 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 6: Biden never saw got to the public the voters, and 1020 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 6: just you know that included the CIA and the actual 1021 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 6: CIA director at the time, Gina Haspell under Trump, she 1022 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 6: was involved in giving the green light to that dirty 1023 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 6: fifty one letter I call it falsely claiming that the 1024 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 6: Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. 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