Speaker 1: Wine Down with Jane Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: What a morning it's been today? And can we just
Speaker 1: I know y' all can't see right now, but KBEs
Speaker 1: coming in just like a beauty queen. Well, I just
Speaker 1: woke up like that, kiddy. It's c M a night.
Speaker 1: It is in your country musics. What are we like?
Speaker 1: It's country Music's Academy Awards, right? Uh? I think so? So.
Speaker 1: I used to say country music is prom but it
Speaker 1: kind of makes it feel not as special. It's really
Speaker 1: quite wonderful. Isn't there like drama around and period Maren
Speaker 1: and Brittany not. Yeah, Like Marin's not coming because of
Speaker 1: the Brittany thing. I think. I don't know. I thought
Speaker 1: she said she wouldn't feel comfortable coming, but I would
Speaker 1: be shocked if she didn't. Was that for this or
Speaker 1: something else? We're going to find out. I'll be there
Speaker 1: texting you guys all the ta. So we have a
Speaker 1: few things that we were going to discuss today. I think, Hannah,
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind coming on because they's going to
Speaker 1: be more of like a pop culture day. Oh I
Speaker 1: love that and so I would love it, Hannah, if
Speaker 1: you could just run us down the first like each
Speaker 1: kind of pop culture nugget, and then we will spill
Speaker 1: some juice. Okay, I feel very not pop pop culture
Speaker 1: savvy because I was like, wasn't it was like pee
Speaker 1: Hermann's still in a fight with her. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and that's why Hannah's coming on. So one of the
Speaker 1: biggest topics this week that I want to discuss is
Speaker 1: the Sexiest Man Alive. People announced that it is Chris Evans,
Speaker 1: and I want to know your guys thoughts if you
Speaker 1: agree with this, what you think? Are people in like
Speaker 1: a tizzy about this? Are people mad? I don't know,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering. No, I don't think anyone's mad. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm curious. People are very happy about it. And he
Speaker 1: said something like very funny about like how happy his
Speaker 1: mom will. Oh, I did see that. That was cute.
Speaker 1: When legend gets it, I'm gonna be like christ and
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on it? So I don't get it?
Speaker 1: For what reason? Guys? Like Sexiest Man Alive is the
Speaker 1: title of all titles? I mean, that's it's a cover.
Speaker 1: It's like Sexiest Man Alive. I hate to judge a book,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like I don't get it. Didn't like
Speaker 1: Paul Rudwin sexiest Man one year. I'm pretty sure he did.
Speaker 1: Paul was last year. YEP. So I think sexy is
Speaker 1: all in the eye of the beholder. So that's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Like, I don't is he a
Speaker 1: cool guy? Is he charming? Like? Is he funny? Is
Speaker 1: he intelligent? Because then I think he could be sexy,
Speaker 1: But we don't oh that, I mean, you're just literally,
Speaker 1: But that's when I think one person might know in
Speaker 1: this group what I'm going to go with you, because Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm saying, if you're going to put him on
Speaker 1: the cover and you're gonna call him sexiest man alive,
Speaker 1: and I don't get to know if he's intelligent or
Speaker 1: funny or charming, then he better be really good looking.
Speaker 1: You're literally just judging this person because we don't know them.
Speaker 1: You guys, he's Captain America. I'm pretty sure he's I
Speaker 1: think I think it's well deserved. What you know about
Speaker 1: Captain America? Cramer, do I share? You have to know
Speaker 1: hate to bully on your own podcast, but it looks
Speaker 1: a little juicy. Are getting red for those of you
Speaker 1: that can't see. So I love it when she has
Speaker 1: to frame it when I put it in borders. Think
Speaker 1: about how I'm going to say that Chris Evans, Well, uh,
Speaker 1: how well do you know him intimately? Pretty well? I
Speaker 1: never told you the story? Maybe an maybe maybe actually
Speaker 1: keep going? How long ago? Tell me everything? Okay, guys Cramer, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: wonder you're like, let's talk about it because a dude
Speaker 1: that I know intimately I would want to talk about
Speaker 1: it too. Actually, Okay, So we I honestly can't remember
Speaker 1: how we met. Is if it was at a club.
Speaker 1: It was before obviously, way before Instagram. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it was at a club. I was twenty six.
Speaker 1: I was twenty six ish. He was the sexiest boy
Speaker 1: alive at the time. He had just done like the
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson movie. He was like younger, yeah, like he
Speaker 1: was definitely known right, Like it was Chris Evans, like
Speaker 1: he's been he was, he was in but he wasn't
Speaker 1: Captain America yet. Okay, but he was like the heart
Speaker 1: throb cutie. So we went on a few dates and um,
Speaker 1: I remember one time we went to this one restaurant
Speaker 1: on Ventura and it was like this um rib place right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I did not see that coming. I feel like we're
Speaker 1: playing like name announ actor and go to a awkward
Speaker 1: meat place right again. I think I probably had a
Speaker 1: salad because I'm like, I can't get all messy with
Speaker 1: the ribs or whatever. Weird. So anyhoo, then we went
Speaker 1: on another and I can't remember how many dates it was.
Speaker 1: I just remember the last date. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: he took you to the red place because he wants
Speaker 1: to see how you handle the bone? Because I got
Speaker 1: me on that it was the worst job that. It's
Speaker 1: like a very awkward first date place. I mean really,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, like why would you bring
Speaker 1: a girl to go suck a bone? Weird? Weird and
Speaker 1: or qualifying noted Chris Evans, you little genius. You're getting
Speaker 1: sexier by the minute. Okay, okay, sorry, but that is
Speaker 1: just the crazy and this isn't like Texas anyhow. I
Speaker 1: can't should I say the last date or last thing
Speaker 1: that I remember that you remember well that like there
Speaker 1: are last interaction okay, And to this day, I'm actually
Speaker 1: still kind of mortified. It's embarrassed though, like this is
Speaker 1: this is an embarrassing, Like this is so embarrassing. I
Speaker 1: love it for this part of the program. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So he called me over and he had some of
Speaker 1: his Boston friends over. So I went to his place
Speaker 1: in Studio City and it was going to be a sleepover. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and he had all of his friends there, um, and
Speaker 1: we were all hanging out. It was a fun time,
Speaker 1: like you know, I can chill with the like the
Speaker 1: friends and stuff, the boy the boys. It was a
Speaker 1: fun time. But I was getting a little sleepy, um,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to bed for whatever. And so I'm dying. I
Speaker 1: can no way I had asparagus. I've heard the story
Speaker 1: going damn it for dinner that night. Nothing you can do,
Speaker 1: There's just not one thing. Well, so I went to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and he immediately went after me and like
Speaker 1: does he have asparagus too? It was just the kind
Speaker 1: of guy. And so that's the last interaction that I
Speaker 1: remember as him going into the bathroom after I just
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom with asparagus and never hearing from
Speaker 1: him again from the morning, Like I don't we never
Speaker 1: we didn't hook up that night he stayed up late
Speaker 1: with his friends, and then in the morning, I was
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I did like the asparagus walk
Speaker 1: of shame out of his house and never occurred from
Speaker 1: him because of the asparagus processes a vegetable. Not the
Speaker 1: sexiest man alive, right, I did damn him though, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably like a year ago when like,
Speaker 1: because you know, just to be like sorry about the flush,
Speaker 1: then I didn't say that. Probably my idea was his
Speaker 1: bathroom even clean? I mean, I can't those those memories.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be able to equally judge him back.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to do. It was it was
Speaker 1: a bachelor pad, right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: like I can't imagine it smells like chlorox to begin with,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember like cuddling that night. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I just that's always been in the back of my
Speaker 1: mind whenever I think about or see Chris Evans or
Speaker 1: Captain America. And I'm like, I had for me to
Speaker 1: ask a question, go for it. Good kisser, a bad kisser? Great? Good? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you agree with him being the sexiest man? Oh,
Speaker 1: I think he's super sexy. I actually do too. I
Speaker 1: think he's like crazy sexy. And he's so like he's
Speaker 1: like Boston. I think that's just like he's like a man.
Speaker 1: He's like sexy and like he's got like a muscles,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, he's just he's sexy to me.
Speaker 1: He's got a muscle. Were from Boston, He's got a muscle,
Speaker 1: But that is that New York. And then I remember
Speaker 1: he had said this thing how he's like actively trying
Speaker 1: to find like his person. Remember is that when you
Speaker 1: slid in? Probably so I'm strictly not a vegetarian and
Speaker 1: I should catch back up. I feel as if you
Speaker 1: should have eaten the ribs now, that would have been
Speaker 1: better for you. I think, Okay, this is just all
Speaker 1: very interesting. So that is my story with the Sexiest
Speaker 1: Man Alive. And that's very He's not cute. I just
Speaker 1: think sexiest Man Alive is like the big title, like heavyweight,
Speaker 1: built feeling, and I just don't know that that's for me.
Speaker 1: Who would you give the title to. Let's start with that, like, well,
Speaker 1: there's this one guy from low Cash. Okay, I really
Speaker 1: have not I don't have a celebrity I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think neither one. Did you do like this? Son's an
Speaker 1: anarchy guy too? I think he's super sexy. Is definitely
Speaker 1: gonna get me in trouble, Haston or us. No, not
Speaker 1: with you? So okay. I used to love Matthew McConney.
Speaker 1: Youtiful and he's like the nicest human I know. And
Speaker 1: remember when we were we, I was like I couldn't
Speaker 1: even talk. I was like, Jannah, just san girl him
Speaker 1: and I'll just stare because I love him. But then
Speaker 1: I started watching Last Kingdom. Who's who isn't that? I
Speaker 1: don't know? Utred That's all I know that's name and
Speaker 1: I know if you watch it, you know he's got
Speaker 1: a little man bun and he is just out there
Speaker 1: saving the day. Can I show you a picture of him?
Speaker 1: Do you like man Bun's? Yeah? See I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not a man bun kind of fan unless it's Charlie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he can pull off, but Charlie hunt him as
Speaker 1: Jack's from sense of anarchy like that is my I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go back and watch that. I think me too,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. I know I really want to. My
Speaker 1: husband is like convinced I have the biggest crush on
Speaker 1: him and seally reason I like the show. It's not true,
Speaker 1: but it is not bad. She spends the last five
Speaker 1: minutes talking about Likesh maybe not again. I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where like im him in the movie,
Speaker 1: So let's find one where he's not in medieval times
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, come on, he's got a piercing us.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have all people, this would be
Speaker 1: your time. I think he's he's yeah, no, he's he's
Speaker 1: a very attractive man. Yeah um Utrad didn't get the cover.
Speaker 1: But again I think of it as like did like
Speaker 1: I would put Jason Bateman as the hottest man. Wow, no, no,
Speaker 1: but I have like semi things like that too. I
Speaker 1: think he's sexy because he's funny. That's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I like a funny charming but that what part is that?
Speaker 1: What sexiest man is? Though? Like, do we take one
Speaker 1: last year? You know what I mean? I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that he's part of the litmust that's his name is
Speaker 1: Alexander Draymond. I don't know if you started dating Utred
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving would be awesome. We already have somebody. Can we
Speaker 1: start with single, um when you are not dating, so
Speaker 1: thank you. Um, yes again. I think it's all about
Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder and who you might think
Speaker 1: of sexy. I don't totally like a lot of times.
Speaker 1: So like I like I do. I like the big
Speaker 1: muscle guys right Like, I like that look. And then
Speaker 1: I've got our friend who's like, I like the skinny guys.
Speaker 1: So it's like sexy is like just so different for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the funny, wordy guy. I like words matter.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, I need funny too. I get I
Speaker 1: need some of you like sharpened with me or else.
Speaker 1: I'm like Mota Jason Bateman. He wasn't married, he's thirty nine.
Speaker 1: He's dating Alison Williams and has a kid with her.
Speaker 1: For them, that's great for them. Well, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: crush your dreams of Oh, I don't want to sleep
Speaker 1: with him. I don't want to sleep with him. I
Speaker 1: just think, like, if you're gonna nominate like a sexy man,
Speaker 1: that it's not my husband half of Low Cad. I
Speaker 1: would say utred over Chris Evans, but I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of uproar about Chris Evans, and that
Speaker 1: makes me want him to keep that forever. I think
Speaker 1: sevens is great. It's again he reminds me like I love.
Speaker 1: That's why I like the movie The Town, Like I
Speaker 1: love like Ben Affleck and like those guys are like that,
Speaker 1: like guys we grew up with. Yeah. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: when Luke Hoomb sings, I feel like every guy in
Speaker 1: my hometown gets his wings right, you know. It's like
Speaker 1: that kind of feeling like they're just like they're rough
Speaker 1: and tumble, like they could build you a bench in
Speaker 1: the garage or something. I don't know. And there's something
Speaker 1: like like even when I used to date Brandley, I
Speaker 1: was like there's something like comforting about him because he
Speaker 1: was he might have not been the sexiest man alive,
Speaker 1: but it was like felt comforted, like he was like
Speaker 1: detective protected. Yeah, like I would take Kevin Costner anyday.
Speaker 1: I just I don't think you would have agreed with that.
Speaker 1: I agree with especially older man. Hello, it's like my
Speaker 1: dream there's a bodyguard, but older. There's something about the
Speaker 1: way he ages that I'm just like, you are a
Speaker 1: little sneaky, and it's that like just his character in
Speaker 1: the show, like yeah, yeah, hell yeah, that's mine, girl.
Speaker 1: You know I love an older man. So he is
Speaker 1: and I think he's so handsome. Okay, So we got
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner for Catherine Ughtred a Beba Month whatever, Jason
Speaker 1: Bateman slash Charlie Hen also the guy from Let's Get
Speaker 1: to Vote. Yeah, I want to know everybody else exactly,
Speaker 1: all right? Moving on, Hannah, Oh Hannah, what do you
Speaker 1: think between if you were to pick our three guys,
Speaker 1: which one would you think? I'm like three and a half.
Speaker 1: I would go Kevin Kevin. I'm also in the middle
Speaker 1: of like binge watching last season's Yellowstone right now before
Speaker 1: the news. We've been too, so do you guys know
Speaker 1: I've not seen one episode. I can't get on board.
Speaker 1: I try, I rewatched it, I don't rewatch it anything.
Speaker 1: I haven't reatched it yet, but I think we're going
Speaker 1: to um it felt slow to me? Does it pick up?
Speaker 1: It's not slow? Definitely slow. It's definitely not slow. Maybe
Speaker 1: we just need to get past a couple of It's
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner, guys, you can do it. But then there's
Speaker 1: Rip and he's produced actually too. I don't know. Rip
Speaker 1: is a good one. Oh yeah, I've heard of him.
Speaker 1: My friend Adam came in town last night and he
Speaker 1: went was going out with Oh is it rip? No
Speaker 1: was around? Oh? I just saw the Jersey shore people.
Speaker 1: Jersey shore people. What's his name? Oh coal houser? He plays?
Speaker 1: Who does he play? Um, let's see os. Why isn't
Speaker 1: that coming up? I'm like something like he plays the
Speaker 1: official street houser. He's rip, isn't that him? Yeah? That's Rip,
Speaker 1: totally rip. He's sexy as hell too. Oh he was
Speaker 1: a nationalist friend. I feel like, thanks for the heads up.
Speaker 1: And look at his beautiful wife. She's so pretty, she's key,
Speaker 1: she's gorgeous. Love. See I don't actually find him, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you have to watch the show attractive, Yes, agreed, watch
Speaker 1: the show and then he's hot and then it's one
Speaker 1: of those I feel like I picture him at a
Speaker 1: soccer game before I picture him on right, like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put him, but isn't that so fun? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: have to watch the show to he's attractive and everyone
Speaker 1: it's literally like Jackson's Sons of Anarchy, where it's like,
Speaker 1: oh now this photo of him, Yeah, that's hot him,
Speaker 1: and like the whole time and he's like, oh that
Speaker 1: is so good for me and account on the show.
Speaker 1: Also from Yellowstone would be a good one. I saw
Speaker 1: him out at Soho House in Nashville and I did
Speaker 1: like a triple take. He is so handsome, like strikingly
Speaker 1: handsome in person. Um he but and then we looked
Speaker 1: him up and he's dating or married to like a
Speaker 1: stunning like model like he like hello, He's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite characters. I just like I would put him on.
Speaker 1: He looks like one of the guys from Midlands, maybe
Speaker 1: riding on that horse. He's my favorite. I think more
Speaker 1: in her life guy. Okay, moving on, Okay, moving on
Speaker 1: next topic to discuss. This one is causing a little controversy,
Speaker 1: I would say so. J Lou, after getting married to
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck, has now changed her name legally two Jennifer
Speaker 1: Lopez Affleck. I believe it is the full name anyways,
Speaker 1: last name legally Affleck Affleck. Thank god you did. I
Speaker 1: needed somebody to get it out of our system. So
Speaker 1: she says she did it because she feels like it's
Speaker 1: traditional and a romantic decision. But it's causing Oh, I
Speaker 1: guess some people don't agree, and they feel like Catherine
Speaker 1: does not agree. I can tell no, keep going. I
Speaker 1: agree with her. I think this is the most ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, why is this even conversation that
Speaker 1: has ever been had no offense? I just it's I'm
Speaker 1: passionate about that because it's like, what is wrong with
Speaker 1: taking your husband's last name? I thought the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that's and because they're older, and
Speaker 1: I feel like she's dated, like who was an a
Speaker 1: Rod before for a long time. Yeah, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like it is like the one thing she could do
Speaker 1: that just really seals it because she she's always been
Speaker 1: j Lo Like you know what I'm saying, Like, at
Speaker 1: some point when you've had all these still long term
Speaker 1: relations chips that like it's probably so honoring to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to also be like wow, Like I mean that solidifies that.
Speaker 1: Why is it bad to be traditional? Now? That's my
Speaker 1: issue was like, why does everything have to just be
Speaker 1: biblical against? Yeah, go against the grain. Janna disagrees with
Speaker 1: some people are saying it's very old school, and that's great.
Speaker 1: Changing your name to your husband's name dates back to
Speaker 1: the eleventh century and when women didn't have their own
Speaker 1: identity and you had to guys like your husband had
Speaker 1: to buy the house and you had to have his
Speaker 1: name for like certain things like that, and so people
Speaker 1: are just feeling like it's very old school and that
Speaker 1: she's kind of losing her identity. Can we all agree
Speaker 1: j Lo could be locked in the cabinet for forty
Speaker 1: years and never lose who she is. Absolutely, she will
Speaker 1: always be always Jenny from the block, Yeah, forever Cramer
Speaker 1: Jannah Kramer, who has been married and has not changed
Speaker 1: her name with I've legally changed it more times than
Speaker 1: I so securing, like, hey you it's up girl today.
Speaker 1: Um listen. I you know I'll always love j Lo
Speaker 1: because I mean, she's she's been this is her fourth marriage.
Speaker 1: I think I love her. I love that she's just
Speaker 1: like she loves she puts it out there and there's
Speaker 1: a I said something to someone the other day, I said,
Speaker 1: I will never change my name back again ever because
Speaker 1: it's so annoying having to go change their lines and
Speaker 1: this and the flights and the But I still will.
Speaker 1: You will, yeah, because it's again that tradition of like,
Speaker 1: and I will always be Jane Kramer, right, and she
Speaker 1: she will always be j Lo, but like I will
Speaker 1: because it's like it's it's yes, I know, it's it's
Speaker 1: what you do, but it's still like that is like
Speaker 1: sealing the deal. Well, I also it's just so honoring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like you should take I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then like when you have kids, like well all,
Speaker 1: but that's my only issue though, because I'm like, let's
Speaker 1: just say which I don't think it's going to happen,
Speaker 1: but let's just say I had another kid. Yeah, different,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want my other kids to have like that.
Speaker 1: That's tricky. That is tricky. But yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: so I feel like I almost stay at Cramer because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want one kid to have my name and
Speaker 1: not the other two. But the other kid is not
Speaker 1: going to have Kramer, wouldn't it have the dads I
Speaker 1: would have what I'm saying, so both kids don't have
Speaker 1: my name, so not just like one, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like if I was let's just say I
Speaker 1: was a Center Smith, then I have like Lily Smith.
Speaker 1: But then my kids names are Causon. So I don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: I just really love it. I think it's great. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with it. Having said that, I do
Speaker 1: still like the idea of I'm fine if the guy
Speaker 1: wants to take the girl's name. M I am not
Speaker 1: an either for that. But it goes back to that
Speaker 1: did like, I'm fine, I don't know anyway. Also, not
Speaker 1: to judge anyone for what they do exactly everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I Also I'm just like, why are we so? Why
Speaker 1: does it have to even be something? That's what I
Speaker 1: wanted to know, Like, why are we even having this conversation?
Speaker 1: She took her husband's last name, Guys, It's like she's
Speaker 1: not married. She also did Yeah, she's she's not doing
Speaker 1: she's buying her own houses. I'm quite sure of that.
Speaker 1: This isn't she's good, worried a good Okay, So this
Speaker 1: next one I'm very interested on and did a deep
Speaker 1: dive on last night. So do you guys know Olivia Culpo.
Speaker 1: She has a new reality series with her two sisters
Speaker 1: that's coming out on TLC or it might be out
Speaker 1: by now, and they leaked a preview of their show
Speaker 1: where she Aurora. Um. I don't know where she falls
Speaker 1: in the lineup, but she is telling her two sisters
Speaker 1: about how this woman has contacted her that her husband's
Speaker 1: been cheating on her, and she approached her husband about it,
Speaker 1: and he was honest and said that he was like
Speaker 1: he had slept around with this woman and other things.
Speaker 1: She then reveals to her sisters that before they got married,
Speaker 1: she gave him a hall pass to cheat once a year.
Speaker 1: She is now feeling like well, she says that they
Speaker 1: didn't get he didn't want to get married, and they
Speaker 1: got married for their family, and now she is regretting
Speaker 1: it and feeling very cheated on and wants to take
Speaker 1: it back. And he's not sure if he is okay
Speaker 1: moving on in the relationship if he can't have that
Speaker 1: hall pass once a year. And so curious to know
Speaker 1: you guys as thoughts on this, would you ever give
Speaker 1: your husband a Hall pass? In Detroit? In me just
Speaker 1: wants to just drop a giant f bomb, but that
Speaker 1: justn't know, Like, is she just a for feeling betrayed
Speaker 1: because she gave him this hall pass? That's stuff because
Speaker 1: she Aurora and I don't have a lot in commons.
Speaker 1: I'm having heart Like, I just I can't understand giving
Speaker 1: a hall pass, like again traditionalism. He just doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be married to her. We all know where I
Speaker 1: stand on this. Yeah, kind I wouldking never give my husband.
Speaker 1: They can believe it because I'm gonna set you know,
Speaker 1: because I want to ever obviously give my husband a
Speaker 1: hall pass. Moving forward, a lot of people say, well,
Speaker 1: monogamy is dead, and like it's um, you know, people
Speaker 1: aren't meant to be monogamous, like they're meant to have
Speaker 1: multiple partners, And I just call bullsh to that because
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, it's hard to stay in a committed
Speaker 1: relationship because there are struggles X, Y, and z, but
Speaker 1: like to give a hall pass. Here's the problem. That's
Speaker 1: like when you start swinging, then other person's like, oh,
Speaker 1: are you getting more feelings for like that person? And
Speaker 1: like bringing someone else into the relationship is like, yes,
Speaker 1: it works for some people, and do you but them
Speaker 1: for that matter exactly, But like on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, it's like it's always going to be gray.
Speaker 1: When something like oh they might start having feelings for
Speaker 1: their swapping partners or whatever or letting them cheat, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: well then and then you start thinking like oh my god,
Speaker 1: well how do they have sex and like this, that
Speaker 1: and the other. Like I I just think it's such
Speaker 1: a cause for just destruction. Letting someone else into the
Speaker 1: marriage that is just me. It works for others and
Speaker 1: that's but for me, like I could never ever and
Speaker 1: I don't think honestly like she gave him. She set
Speaker 1: the stage so like I could also see him being like, well,
Speaker 1: what the hell? Like, well, I think she has a
Speaker 1: right to come back and say yes, I can change
Speaker 1: your mind and I have changed my mind because how
Speaker 1: this makes me feel and then have a discussion about it.
Speaker 1: And if he can't do that, then she has to
Speaker 1: make a decision on how she feels about that. But no, never,
Speaker 1: that's a big you know what I mean? Yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you cat where it's like she gets
Speaker 1: a chance to be like, hey, actually this doesn't feel good,
Speaker 1: so can we not? But the fact that, well then
Speaker 1: would he's like getting defensive at it. I'm like, to me,
Speaker 1: I'm a girl. That's why I like, I don't think
Speaker 1: he needs to be married because if he's like that's
Speaker 1: part of it, then he probably does it. He just
Speaker 1: wants maybe to look different. And that's how commitment doesn't
Speaker 1: feel that way to me. So I would say not
Speaker 1: committed relationship, an open relationship. Yeah, justlike justlike okay, so
Speaker 1: playing a little bit of Devil's advocate. If you were,
Speaker 1: let's say you were to give somebody a hall pass
Speaker 1: or your partner a hall pass, do you think there
Speaker 1: should be boundaries? Is that or parameters? I just can't
Speaker 1: see myself giving a hall pass. I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 1: I talk to someone who one of their parameters were
Speaker 1: they were in an open marriage and they couldn't it
Speaker 1: would it just had to be sex, Like they couldn't
Speaker 1: go on dates or hold hands with other people, that
Speaker 1: it was just like sex. This makes my stomach hurt.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I think we know one that if
Speaker 1: he goes he's allowed to do whatever, but he has
Speaker 1: to tell her, Like he's on the road, so she's like,
Speaker 1: do what you want wherever when you're on the road,
Speaker 1: but you have to tell me. You have to tell me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like saying, like all of it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes me feel gross. I don't know, I mean, not gross,
Speaker 1: but just it wouldn't work for me. Would not work
Speaker 1: for me. I don't think i'd want to know if
Speaker 1: that was the case. That's even worse. Yeah, I need
Speaker 1: to know every single detail, but then I'm going to
Speaker 1: that's going to be problematic. I often think too, Like
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if I was to ever get into
Speaker 1: a relationship with someone that cheated on me one time,
Speaker 1: like let's just let's just go back to the to
Speaker 1: the Bible Sex in the City. Steve cheated on Mirando
Speaker 1: one time. Now, I'm all about being honest and upfront,
Speaker 1: but the destruction that comes from a cheating one time
Speaker 1: you make one mistake, I actually probably wouldn't want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to know everything because the what I know
Speaker 1: from like no, like if it's just one time and
Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen again, like I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: know because I would just be thinking about it all
Speaker 1: the time. But I'm going to be thinking about it
Speaker 1: no matter what, and I'm going to let my mind
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know but I did, because you don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, like if in the you know, like
Speaker 1: the guy where it's just like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: you know, but I know he cheated, I will my
Speaker 1: mind will go there no matter what, and I will
Speaker 1: just now be imagining all that you wouldn't know that
Speaker 1: he cheated, is what she's saying. However, it would be
Speaker 1: worse though to find out well, obviously it doesn't know
Speaker 1: anything about that's so then there's always like I would
Speaker 1: figure it out. I would find out. I can guarantee
Speaker 1: you I would, And then that's worse. I'd rather than
Speaker 1: told me. I mean that, then that's the devil's advocate,
Speaker 1: Like obviously I would have loved to have known. But again,
Speaker 1: just one time, Like I don't know, it's so freaking
Speaker 1: tough because it's like to cause the destruction in the
Speaker 1: like like all of it. One time, it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: you did it one you know what, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back on what I said. If it
Speaker 1: was like let's say it was fifteen years ago one time,
Speaker 1: don't tell me I am because then I'm going to question,
Speaker 1: like then you're gonna don't just we've got a good life.
Speaker 1: It was one time, you feel terrible about it, talked
Speaker 1: to the pastor if they kept opposite on this, just
Speaker 1: if it one time and the investigation has if he
Speaker 1: hold onto it for fifteen years, like what's why why
Speaker 1: would he bring it up now? I don't know, But
Speaker 1: when he does, he's going to trial having said that
Speaker 1: all Like I would have given anything for the truth,
Speaker 1: not discoveries. So I am playing well, you're just saying
Speaker 1: that because it's the playing it in your head and
Speaker 1: what it does to you to know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can imagine that. That's so if you were supposed to
Speaker 1: be with me and you did something with someone else,
Speaker 1: I need to know. I don't care if it was
Speaker 1: a hundred years ago period and I need to know
Speaker 1: all the details. And I I like her name and her phone.
Speaker 1: That's what I remember, like my our therapist being like
Speaker 1: you to know all the details actually does more like
Speaker 1: how it's like it's more damaging because and then you're
Speaker 1: really picturing it right right right, Well, I have a
Speaker 1: very I go it's not good for me. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: trust I get it. I mean I'm going back and
Speaker 1: forth on even what I'm saying, because it's like either way,
Speaker 1: how about this, don't you don't you start there? I
Speaker 1: don't get passes? Please? Is gonna say? Is it cheating though?
Speaker 1: If he was given a hall pass? I mean I
Speaker 1: guess not that's true. It's not, Hannah. I mean, it
Speaker 1: can't be. If she told him he could, but he
Speaker 1: still did he did because it's outside of his marriage,
Speaker 1: so it is cheating. It's either cheating and like blessed
Speaker 1: like it was and this is why we don't do
Speaker 1: hall passes. I don't know, we don't do all passes.
Speaker 1: So I would say it is. But then flare, is
Speaker 1: it for her to go back and be like, you cheated?
Speaker 1: That's true, she can't do is cheating? She said it's okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like she needs to go
Speaker 1: back and be like I take it all. Is it
Speaker 1: like sanctioned cheating or is it I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think maybe since she gave him like
Speaker 1: once a year, if he went if he had sex
Speaker 1: with more than once a year, then you could be
Speaker 1: considered cheating for sure. But when set those boundaries of
Speaker 1: like once a year, I wouldn't want to know when
Speaker 1: that one time a year was. And it's like I
Speaker 1: feel like that's not cheating on his part. If any
Speaker 1: guy that I date moving forward does cheat on me,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to tip my non ball cap to
Speaker 1: them right now and just be like go for it,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I am pretty fun right now. I've
Speaker 1: always felt that way that you need more. I had
Speaker 1: to tip off to you, but you are fun, but
Speaker 1: you are always have been fun in that department. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're as little a little more new. Next topic,
Speaker 1: let's actually take a break and move back, Hannah. Are
Speaker 1: you ready for that? Yeah, we're back. And that was
Speaker 1: the most ron Burgundy moment we've had. That was awesome. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So this one, there's some experience in this with in
Speaker 1: your group from now in the queendom. So Bradley Cooper
Speaker 1: and his ex Arena. Oh gosh, I probably messed that up. Anyways,
Speaker 1: they have been spotted recently being sharing some pd A
Speaker 1: out New York. People are saying that they're getting back together.
Speaker 1: They do share a kid um. They started dating in
Speaker 1: the spring of and welcome to daughter in March. Two
Speaker 1: years later, they split after four years together, and now
Speaker 1: her friends are not surprised, she said. They said after
Speaker 1: the split, she really really missed him and she feels
Speaker 1: very proud how they have been able to get along
Speaker 1: and co parents their beautiful daughter. So now it is
Speaker 1: I mean, not confirmed by them, but it looks like
Speaker 1: they are pretty much back together. So my question to
Speaker 1: all of you is is it ever a good idea
Speaker 1: to get back with your ex is Catherine? Why did
Speaker 1: it work? And do you think this could work. Do
Speaker 1: you see that working long time? Long term? Who wants
Speaker 1: to start? I think just looking at you. Oh, I
Speaker 1: have thoughts, but I'll let ego. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions. Number one, Well, like
Speaker 1: why did they break up in the first place? Um? Do?
Speaker 1: I mean when I initially heard it, I was like,
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure that they're back together because
Speaker 1: they went to a party with their kid. First of all,
Speaker 1: he was dating some like lawyer, kind of like a
Speaker 1: uh some who who's dating someone recently, I believed. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're being like cozy. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it depends. Um, I mean obviously obviously my answer
Speaker 1: is yes. Um. I mean I think when you're comfortable
Speaker 1: with somebody, it can be easy to do. Also, I
Speaker 1: don't know obviously I got back with my ex, so yes,
Speaker 1: obviously I think that it's can be a good idea.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why they broke up. I don't
Speaker 1: know any of those details. To give more, I think
Speaker 1: it can very much depend on what caused the breakup.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I would say to like that stuff,
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously always best for the kids to have
Speaker 1: their parents under one roof, right if it's in a
Speaker 1: healthy situation, right, Like, it's it's health if they're healthy, Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's great for them to you know, be in
Speaker 1: under the same roof. But what I will say is
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of times and I I've
Speaker 1: been talking to one of my girlfriends who's been going
Speaker 1: through something and struggling whether to get divorced from her husband,
Speaker 1: and they had broken up a bunch of times when
Speaker 1: they were dating. And I asked her, I said, was
Speaker 1: the issue that's now in the potential divorce the same
Speaker 1: issues while you guys broke up when you all were dating.
Speaker 1: And she's like yes, and I go, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times, whatever you break up, that
Speaker 1: issue is still gonna potentially be there. So like, and
Speaker 1: yet we all have our stuff, right, Like every couple
Speaker 1: is going to have their issues and in fights. But
Speaker 1: usually what is like the main like argument or fight
Speaker 1: or resentment or whatever it is, usually stays there and
Speaker 1: doesn't leave the relationships. So whatever caused you all to
Speaker 1: break up, it's probably going to roar its ugly head again.
Speaker 1: So it's either you've got to like pinpoint it do
Speaker 1: a lot of work on it to be able to
Speaker 1: move on and being a healthy relationship, because if not,
Speaker 1: it's going to come back around. Like the reasons why
Speaker 1: you broke up always show itself again. Absolutely, So I
Speaker 1: agree with both of you, and I like that they're
Speaker 1: getting back together. They're beautiful couple, they are, and I like,
Speaker 1: I just like, based on only the information in front
Speaker 1: of me, I like that she said she missed him
Speaker 1: when they broke up and that they're co parenting. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you probably just go man, I mean that
Speaker 1: was a lot of it for us, a lot of it. Um.
Speaker 1: But yes, I agree with you. The issues will still
Speaker 1: be there, so you have to pinpoint them and address
Speaker 1: them and be aware of it, like hyper focused on
Speaker 1: it almost. So I would agree with that for sure.
Speaker 1: But I love it. I love a good redemption story,
Speaker 1: so said amen, I have an Olivia Olivia Colpos story.
Speaker 1: I actually do too, and I actually really like her
Speaker 1: from what I know of her, And I actually, okay,
Speaker 1: so I know a friend of hers that's very close
Speaker 1: to them, and she is a precious human being and
Speaker 1: she says really good things about Olivia. This is not
Speaker 1: about Olivia. It's about me, okay, but I was postpartum,
Speaker 1: uh six weeks with LEGI okay, so second baby at home,
Speaker 1: thirty six years old, husband's traveling. Olivia says she wants
Speaker 1: to be a singer and she wants to do a
Speaker 1: duo with my dua duet with my husband. So six
Speaker 1: weeks postpartum, he's going to New York to have dinner
Speaker 1: with and business people, not just him and her. But
Speaker 1: can we just talk about what that feels like when
Speaker 1: this half my age supermodel that has a torso your
Speaker 1: hashtag bleussed Olivia is doing a business dinner with my
Speaker 1: husband six weeks postpartum. I just wanted to say that
Speaker 1: out loud. It's not her fault, all is well, I
Speaker 1: hear she's a really sweet, wonderful person and the people
Speaker 1: around her are sent but you still have your man.
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to say it because it
Speaker 1: really was like, in what world is that normal? What's
Speaker 1: your story? Cramer? Well? No, I was just I was
Speaker 1: just gonna like affirm you, like I think being the
Speaker 1: mother of someone's child is the most beautiful human and woman.
Speaker 1: This is why we should be married. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of men feel that way too, though, yeah, my
Speaker 1: house and saying much about that when he wasn't say it,
Speaker 1: but do you know that they their baby and but
Speaker 1: at that time it was like a side ponytail and
Speaker 1: like a cheese stick hang out of my hoody pockets.
Speaker 1: He's probably not like not going to soccas up. Uh.
Speaker 1: So I did a podcast with my ax and we
Speaker 1: talked about Olivia Culpo and Danny A Mendola and they're
Speaker 1: still together. No no, no, no, it got it gotten
Speaker 1: picked up in this in the press, and basically my
Speaker 1: ex had kind of went after Olivia and then I
Speaker 1: kind of was like, look, obviously I don't condone cheating
Speaker 1: because they had said that like Danny had cheated. So
Speaker 1: about a month ago, I was at Soho with this
Speaker 1: guy um who's in football or whatever, and we were
Speaker 1: old friends and he's like, hey, my friend Danny A
Speaker 1: Mendola is going to come to Soho to meet us
Speaker 1: for a drink. And I'm like oh, and then he's
Speaker 1: like he thinks you hate him, and I was like no,
Speaker 1: I don't at all, Like I didn't even say. He's like,
Speaker 1: apparently you said that, like he's a cheater, and I'm
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, no no, I just obviously I
Speaker 1: don't condone cheating, and I probably said that I go no,
Speaker 1: but it was my my pulled up the article and
Speaker 1: was like, see it shows that, like they were basically
Speaker 1: saying like she knew what she was doing too, and
Speaker 1: like all those things. But I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: have I don't know either one of them. I think
Speaker 1: they're both lovely, and I gotta tell you what. Danny
Speaker 1: is like the coolest dude. He was awesome, He was
Speaker 1: so fun. Who does she date now? I have no
Speaker 1: idea it's a football guy. I don't know. Yes, she's
Speaker 1: dating Christian McCaffrey from the Fort and that's been a while,
Speaker 1: right since twenty nineteen. Yeah, I mean she's stunning. I'll
Speaker 1: probably watch show because I love watching the shows. I
Speaker 1: started watching the Charlie and whatever. She's such an am
Speaker 1: cute little family. She honestly is like I have a
Speaker 1: friend that's really like with them all the time and
Speaker 1: like she is the sweetest. So I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure we know that's not about Olivia. For me, postpartum,
Speaker 1: postpartum and supermodels they don't make well, honey, you're looking
Speaker 1: like a supermodel right now, So you them. I just
Speaker 1: want to say again that's not a We've really proud
Speaker 1: of this ponytail. Talk to you gus next week. I
Speaker 1: miss you.