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This is the Socks Machine Podcast with 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.400 your host's Jim Margolis, James Vegan, and Josh Nelson. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.600 Hello and welcome to you a new episode of the 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:05.360 Socks Podcast. I'm Josh Nelson alongside James Vegan and Jim Margolis, 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.880 and this is gonna be a happy episode as we 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.880 record this on Sunday night, July nineteen, twenty twenty six, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.720 it's the Chicago White Sox won another road series as 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.640 they won two out of three against the Blue Jays. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.200 There's six games above five hundred, they're fifty two and 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.440 forty six and in this series, the pitching really powered 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.320 this series win for the Chicago White Sox, especially the 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.640 start that we saw on Sunday from Sean Burke. And 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.960 we've been talking about Sean Burke for a bit here 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.040 as he went six and two thirds innings, didn't allow 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.000 a run, only allowed two hits, walked one, he struck 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.520 out five. But what's more remarkable about Sean Burke has 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.320 this has been this heater ever since that appearance against 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.720 the Yankees in which he totally dominated, even though the 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.840 White Sox used an opener. In his last six appearances, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.160 it's thirty eight and two thirds innings now for Sean Burke. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.800 He's only allowed twenty eight hits, just six earned runs, 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.960 walking only six and striking out forty seven. He had 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.560 that earned run average in his last six appearance for 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:18.200 Sean Burke is one point for zero. Just outstanding stuff 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.200 from Sean Burke. And I think that's where I want 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.200 to start the conversation James again, tremendous heater for Sean Burke, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.240 and he put it on display again on Sunday. What's 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:31.320 been working for Burke? 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.400 Well, he's throwing a ton of strikes, which is always helpful. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.480 That's usually the will Aventable analysis that he gives postgame, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.440 which I always appreciate him not trying to expand outside 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.360 of his lane as like a past hitter. He's just 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:49.480 usually like, eh, usually when the pitchers throw strikes, that's good. Burke, like, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.080 especially for the Yankee series, kind of figured out something 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.040 with his delivery. I don't know if we've discussed it 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.680 on here before, but like as far as like the 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.079 timing of his counter rotation and how much he does 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.040 and how he's able to kind of separation a bit 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.959 more with his you know kind of shoulders and hips 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.840 and in a way that give them an extra juice. 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.359 He was struggling with it more a beginning of the season. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.520 He kind of felt to his tie together, but he 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.480 did have like some nextiffness that he's dealing with him 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.679 was making it a little bit harder for him to 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.200 kind of get the same you know, kind of separation 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:19.800 he wanted, and he felt like his neck was getting 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.680 stuck when he like kind of brought his arm back 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:24.680 to a degree. So it's kind of a little bit 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.280 of like getting over not quite an injury. I had 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.640 something of an ilm, but something that like affected him 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.480 early in the season and also kind of finding the 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.840 exact you know, rhythm and timing on it, to do 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.960 it with a lot of command, because when he's throwing hardest, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.080 he also tends to have his best command. I felt 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.360 Sunday was a little bit more like breaking ball heavy 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.600 and more like that's what he rode to get through 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.000 the game. Like he he topped on ninety eight. It 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.600 wasn't like his basketball as bad. It just wasn't like, oh, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.280 he's got the eighty percentile version of it all night, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.240 where he's just like sitting ninety eight ninety nine and 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.960 just like beating people on top rail all the time. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.680 It seemed a lot less like he had good command 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.000 of all his sinker or his curveball, and his his 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.160 slider and slider was really tight, and even if he 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.960 wasn't any whiffs down there, he was getting kind of 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.240 like these bent over scoop swings that just didn't have 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.280 much behind them. It certainly worked. I thought Toronto's offense 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.480 looked pretty bad all weekend in a way that like 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.160 it certainly doesn't seem like a team's about to turn 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.599 it on. I know there's tons of injuries there for 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.320 why they don't look complete, but in terms of like offense, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.520 that's clearly not rolling. Maybe he didn't have like his 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.160 biggest heater where he's just like you know, doing f 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.600 you at bats to like you even red hot offenses 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.200 that he's shut down at points during the stretch, it 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.159 did seem like he was executing to a level like 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.920 offense that really isn't getting anything going unless you kind 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.240 of get it, start going, started going for them a 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.760 little bit like with walks and free passes, like whether 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.880 I think he ran into he did well to shut 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.000 them down, so like it wasn't like maximal burke the 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.159 way like maybe other points as the stretch was, but 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.520 still fit in right alongside of like a very long 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.040 stretch of being consistently very good, which you know, if 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.240 you ask, I think I was talking to Sean about 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.040 it previously, is like that's what I've been looking for 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.560 since in college. I've always had these flashes where I 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.839 looked really good and people are not excited about me, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.880 like long term and my potential, Like what I want 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.200 is like stacking like weeks of it and not having 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.680 hiccups in between. So it's funny because he kind of 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.159 had this point last year where he had back to 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.920 back starts where he walked five guys and he ripped 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.280 off like a stretch of three pretty good ones. So 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.120 I was kind of suggesting to him, like, hey, you 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.839 you went to this before last year, maybe you could 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.039 do the same. But he's obviously kind of turning on 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.640 for a longer period of time in a way that 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.760 you know, he's certainly encouraged about going forward more than 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.120 just like putting the bad taste of those two walk 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.200 heavy autings behind him. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.200 Yeah, you mentioned the Blue Jays offense, James. It was 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.960 a recurring storyline as the White Sox were on three 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.800 different networks, Apple TV than see Just Then and then 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.440 Peacock on Sunday. Just everyone can't believe. I can't believe 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.680 that Vlad Greer Junior has to hit a home run 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.520 in the Rogers Center in the twenty twenty six season. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.839 I don't know what's going to be happening to the 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.840 Blue Jays after this series, and maybe they will end 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.719 up selling even though they don't want to throw in 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.320 the towel yet. And unfortunately, Jim, the one loss for 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.120 the White Sox is a tough loss because Davis Martin 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.520 was good. I mean, he only allowed one run, which 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.600 was on a C and I single from George Sprainer. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.840 He went five to two thirds innings, allowed four hits, 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:35.000 he only walked two, and he struck out five. And 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.039 in that start against the Blue Jays, he left after 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.000 throwing eighty five pitches. And Jim this is something we 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.200 talked about recently before the All Star break and how 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.760 Davis felt exhausted. He's already at one hundred innings for 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.760 the season and checking it. The last time Davis Martin 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.839 threw more than ninety pitches was in his start against 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.000 the Atlanta Braves back on June tenth. Do you think 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.680 it's wise for the White Sox to maybe limit Davis Martin, 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.880 maybe make him more of an eighty five pitch type 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.320 of starting pitcher right now, to try to conserve some 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.360 energy for later in the season. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.679 I think it's a couple things. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:20.440 One is the energy components and him, you know, not 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.040 maybe not looking as strongest over the last month or so. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.600 But there's also been a lot of low scoring starts 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.320 for more Martin, or at least not a whole lot 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.400 of run support. You're looking at like nineteen over his 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.440 last eight starts, last two games, they have not scored 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.119 a run for him. So I think it's a matter 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.720 of a little bit in terms of times through the 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.920 order penalty that Martin he tends to be strongest at 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.360 the started games, tends to be more susceptible to loud 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.600 contact at the end of games or end of his starts. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.600 Not uncommon for pitchers. That's why there's a whole phenomenon 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.040 or you know, labeled. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:57.120 Theory behind it. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.520 But you know, given that he has this kind of 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.880 susceptibility to extra base hits a second or third time 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.520 through as it gets towards the end, and him pitching 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.400 in a lot of games that are still close, or you know, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.640 trying to keep the White Sox within striking distance or 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.920 trying to make sure that the opponent doesn't get back 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.400 in it because it's only like a one or two 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.040 run game. I think that makes will Venable more proactive too, 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.480 to go to the bullpen, especially when his bullpen's well 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.480 rested and coming out of the brake and having a 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.120 wide array of relievers to choose from. I think he's 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.600 probably opting for caution, So I don't think it's necessarily 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.120 an automatic that, no matter how well he's pitching, no 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.800 matter the margin, if he gets eighty five pitches, Venable 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.160 is going to look to pull the plug. But I 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.160 think just the way it's been going, with lack of 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.720 run support and just the sense probably the Venable could 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:51.000 see maybe envision Martin giving up an extra base hit 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.280 when he really doesn't want one, really can't afford one, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.440 and be kicking himself if he pulled the plug one 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:56.200 bat or too late. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.400 I think when everything's. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.000 Lined up to where he has relievers to choose from 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.880 that he trusts, it's probably pretty easy for him to 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.520 go to Martin or go away from Martin sooner rather 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.520 than later, especially, you know, if there are knock on 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.880 effects of him looking fresher maybe down the line by 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.800 saving him high stretch pitches when he doesn't have to 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:14.320 throw them. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:15.040 Well. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.360 Jim mentioned relievers podcasts, watchers and listeners, and one of 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.440 those relievers that's also on a heater and maybe has 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.640 caught everyone's attention recently is Jordan Hicks. He pitched another 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.280 scoreless inning in this series against the Blue Jays. Hicks 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.920 and his last seven appearances, it's eight scoreless innings, but 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.720 it's not just eight scoreless innings. It's only allowing two hits. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:44.120 Walking one, striking out fourteen for a reliever to only 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.560 allow three base runners over his last seven appearances. Yes, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.880 that is doing the job. And you could read more 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.480 as far as what's been helping with Jordan Hicks on 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.240 soxsmachine dot com. As James wrote an excellent feature on 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.720 Sunday about the the adjustments that Jordan Hicks has been 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:09.280 making and James with Hicks pitching this well and looks 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.480 like that he has some of his premium stuff back 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.160 that we've seen when he was coming into the league, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.160 especially with the Saint Louis Cardinals, this bullpen looks a 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.240 lot stronger when Jordan Hicks has his premium stuff right. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.400 It's a one more leverage guy stronger. And in terms 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.200 of like I think maybe during their most successful stretch 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.200 of the season, you felt like they had Taylor, Hudson, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.320 Nukom and Domingez is kind of like the four guys 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.520 they were cycling through. Tyler Davis had pop it there 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.880 a little bit with their matchup like worked right now, 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.480 you probably don't really have Sir Anthony quite yet on 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.120 that circle where you're not giving him like any opportunity 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.120 gets that's kind of leverage at this point, it seems 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.199 like it's very tailored to him, and that's not necessarily 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.680 like a big demerit it's it's certainly down from closer, 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.199 but it's something that's you know, not clearly in considerations 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.080 like Brian Hudson getting slate ce lefties. I feel like 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.720 maybe deming is a step down from that. But one, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.520 if you have Hicks in that mix, you kind of 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.720 now have that same level of flexibility between you know, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.520 options late that you want. I would say as far 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.040 as like by the time you get to the postseason, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.160 which is obviously what they're shooting for at this point, 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.719 one you have to account like Hicks already missed the 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.160 month with injury this season. He throws extremely hard. Like 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.120 you can't just be like, oh, we got our four 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.800 in mid July and like we're good now. Demincus can 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.480 get back when he can. I would say, you really 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.720 want there, like especially postseason wise, to go like five 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.400 six deep into guys you feel like you can trust 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.480 at least in certain situations. That's a real separator that 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.280 time of year for navigating those series when they get 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.079 really tight. So getting Tomnus back to the level, adding 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.200 some of the deadline, someone like Tan McDougall, Hagen Smith, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.040 just other options and kind of stepping forward, Trevor Richard's 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.560 being suitable and not Homer prone, you know, those are 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.040 those are they're like maybe small, like kind of on 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.800 the horizon candidates to step up. So I think it's important. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.120 It certainly makes navigating the next couple of weeks, as 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.000 you it makes the process of getting Sir Anthony Deming 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:23.800 is right a bit less. You know, everything's writing on 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.640 every appearance. If you have another reliable writing you can 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.640 go to for kind of these middle to high leverage 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.520 opportunities that aren't necessarily grant tailors. I think that's important 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.840 as far as like, hey, this is like a deadline addition, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.559 and you don't need to add stuff with the bullpen 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.480 or the bullpen's as deep as it needs to be. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.319 I don't think we're quite there. I think there's still 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:45.360 a lot of room for Tan McDougal or Hagen Smith 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.120 or other kind of members of Charlotte or you know, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.480 even Shane Smith, who knows where like it comes up 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.280 with the you know, just generally their top level pitching depth. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.000 There's still a lot of room for that to come 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.959 in and make themselves very useful, because I think it's 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.360 kind of unsettled as far as like leverage ladder outside 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.479 of like those four or five guys. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:06.000 Well, James mentioned as far as adding to the pitching staff, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:11.560 and on Sunday during his USATA column, Bob Nigale had 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.560 a note about the White Sox in which that he 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.760 wrote that the Chicago White Sox have sent Nick Costettler 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.080 their special assistant to keep tams on New York Mets 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.720 starter Clay Holmes, who recently has begun his rehab assignment 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:30.040 after breaking his right fibula back on May fifteenth, and 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.720 James mentioned a Jim the White Sox could still use 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.679 some bullpen help. Maybe that comes internally. But despite these 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.800 strong pitching performance, and this is the conversation that every team, 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.720 whether you're on the vergic attending or you're on the 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.520 edge of selling, needs to answer, the White Sox still 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.120 need pitching help, right, They still need to make a 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.560 move before the trade deadline. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.680 Absolutely, just. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.880 Hagen Smith made a start, so he's theoretically pitching again. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.760 Shane Smith has been back from his rehab stint. But 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.800 they're all kind of varying degrees of shaky, and. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.559 You look at just how Eric Fetti. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.640 Has been carefully managed to make sure that he doesn't 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.040 have to go more than two times through the order. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.440 Noah Schultz will be hitting career highs and innings and 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.200 he's still looking to find his most consistent form. So 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.200 there really isn't anybody, you know, outside of like the 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.440 top three starters who is like guaranteed to take a 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.240 start or as close as guarantees you can get for 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.800 a pitcher over the rest of the season and you know, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.320 handle five innings with any regularity. So yeah, they need starters. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:42.920 You know, it becomes a matter of like who you 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.200 push shout if everybody's healthy. But between Fetti being somebody 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.680 that they have to mitigate and then Schultz, you know, 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.720 probably somebody they want to bake and rest for at 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.920 some points. If he's looking like somebody who is going 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.840 to be part of postseason rotations or postseason pitching staffs, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.760 then yeah, they definitely. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.320 Need an extra arm. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:02.320 They need it. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.800 And this goes back to the conversation about offense, Like 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.080 more arms than spots basically is what you're looking for. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:08.960 On the pitching side. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.080 You can always use more guys than actually have, especially 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.120 on the pitching side. 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.360 That's why they say you never can have. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.480 Enough pitching, and the White Sox don't really have enough 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.520 pitching right now. They're doing a great job, but spreading 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:26.520 it out like as immaculously can. 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He did hit a home run 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.720 on Sunday, that's his twenty fourth of the season. Also 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.800 had a basis clearing double in Friday's big win, drove 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:26.399 in for RBIs and Jim. I know that there is 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.040 a lot of strikeouts. There's quite a bit of swing 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.200 and miss in Colson's game, but his ability to generate 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.240 the big hits like we saw this weekend against the 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.040 Blue Jays, do those quiet those swing and miss concerns. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.119 Comes to his overall game. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.560 You know, there was the ball that got under his glove. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.639 As you start to try to figure out like whether 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.639 he's truly a plus shortstop or if you know he 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.440 is when his back is perfectly healthy, but whether that's 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:54.399 acting up on him or not. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.800 He's got some like natural either wrinkles in his games. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.600 Things to manage things that can Yeah, the back flares 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.919 up on him, the strike out right flares up on him. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.760 There's a lot of things to manage to where when 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.399 you're talking about Coulson, like you kind of have to 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.800 update your priors on a week to week basis because 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.640 the picture could have changed dramatically or since the last 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.359 time we talked about him. So I think there is 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.800 a certain level of maybe not fatigue but just the 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.000 amount of effort that goes in talking about Coulson and 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.320 thinking about Coulson that maybe other players don't have. The 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.920 thing is, though, right now, you know, as he's making 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.160 the league minimum and his pre ARB and everything like that, 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.480 you don't want to let that color your judgment of 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.639 him too much because he might have some frustrating tendencies 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.520 or he might not be, you know, the traditional middle 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.000 of the order hitter because of his ability to be 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.879 pitched to sometimes. But he's tying up precious few resources 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.400 when it comes to the money he's making the players 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:58.760 he's blocking or not blocking, so he's a valuable player 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.200 to have in the mix no matter what. There could 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.040 come a point as the shortstops come up. We'll see 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.960 what happens with Rock Chelowski when the White Sox get 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.480 him in the system, and you know what kind of 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:14.520 timeline he puts himself on over the next six baseball months, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.679 and that could maybe change exactly where he fits in 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.159 and whether he's a fixture in the middle of the 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:20.840 infield or in the. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:21.920 Middle of the lineup, et cetera. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.320 But right now, given where the White Sox are, as 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.240 a pleasant surprise, given that no matter how bad he looks, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.600 he does have these bounce back games or bounce back 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.160 series to where he is one of your more dynamic 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.800 hitters in the field, to where you just kind of 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.399