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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get right into it. Ohoe tonight. Our first

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<v Speaker 2>segment of the first segment of the day is a

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<v Speaker 2>news cap NewsCap. Cardinals reaffirmed Kyler Murray as their franchise

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback of ahead of twenty twenty four free agency. There

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<v Speaker 2>was speculation that the Cardinals might move on from Kyler

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<v Speaker 2>and use their high first round draft pick on a

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<v Speaker 2>courtquarterback this year, but they put that into bed today.

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<v Speaker 2>They posted a photo of Kyla on their Twitter accounts,

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<v Speaker 2>saying our franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>The NFL had jokes because.

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<v Speaker 2>Previously or Infatsment Emphasim infamously posted a on their team

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<v Speaker 2>social media page. In twenty nineteen, they posted a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of Josh Rosen said Josh is our guy. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>like Arizona putting their faith in Kyler Murray?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. Obviously, I think they were

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<v Speaker 1>on the right track. I think Kyler Murray was on

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<v Speaker 1>the right track barring injury. Obviously he got hurt. Listen

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three ADS seventeen ninety nine, ten tds,

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<v Speaker 1>five interceptions. He only played eight game. He was three

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<v Speaker 1>and five of the start. He's a two time Pro Bowler,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen Offensive Rookie of the Year. He just signed

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<v Speaker 1>a multi year contract, five year, two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>million extension in twenty twenty two. They definitely letting him

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<v Speaker 1>go right now. They definitely not letting him go this

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<v Speaker 1>early in his career, and we can see. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what they need to do is put some pieces around him, though.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to put some pieces around him. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>serious about winning and if he is your franchise quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do due diligence, not just not just

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<v Speaker 1>to that fan base, but for Kyler Murray so he

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<v Speaker 1>can be productive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, You're definitely gonna have to get some better office

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<v Speaker 2>and some better line played to protect him. Obviously, he

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<v Speaker 2>can have to do a better job of protecting himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of times, excuse me, guys, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times quarterbacks that.

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<v Speaker 3>Are mobile are the most sacked.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Randall Cunningham, look at Cam Newton, look at

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Vick, look at Lamar Jackson, look at your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Because while they do possess an innate ability to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of harm's weight, a lot of times they run

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<v Speaker 2>themselves into harm's weight. They'll escape something on the front

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<v Speaker 2>side only to run themselves into trouble on the backside.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes they put too much confidence in their ability.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not abnormal to have a quarterback as mobile

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<v Speaker 2>as Kyler to get sacked a lot, because what we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of mobile quarterbacks are very very high

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<v Speaker 2>and sacked total. Steve Young got sacked, got sacked the butt.

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<v Speaker 2>But you gotta you gotta be able to uh And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know you're right, oh, Joe. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I think he missed what he missed the first eight games,

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<v Speaker 2>not seven eight games because he was coming off an

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<v Speaker 2>aco injury. Can he get back to what he once

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<v Speaker 2>was because his injury was a freak injury. He was

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<v Speaker 2>scrambling in an open field non contact boom Nie gives

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<v Speaker 2>out on it. But he's a phenomenal talent. But you

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<v Speaker 2>just would need to make sure that football is a priority,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't care what anybody says, O Joe, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't put that he has to study X amount of

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<v Speaker 2>hours away from the facility if you believe he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>what he needs to do away from the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they shouldn't have put that in there because

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<v Speaker 1>you already know in order to play at this level,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to achieve greatness at this level, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>certain amount of time you have to put in.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously Kyler Murray being a gamer similar to high MD

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<v Speaker 1>at times, even as a quarterback, regardless of position. Regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of the position that you play, there is a certain

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<v Speaker 1>thing called me time. So what you choose to do

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<v Speaker 1>in your downtime at home. As far as but Kyler Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>he likes.

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<v Speaker 3>The game you want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying you can't be great and playing and

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<v Speaker 1>play video games?

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<v Speaker 2>How great do you want to be? How much video

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<v Speaker 2>games you think Patrick Mahoonmes play? How much video game

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<v Speaker 2>do you think he played?

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh show for them to put that in his contract

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<v Speaker 2>you do realize when you pick up the I pay

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<v Speaker 2>home on, when you pick up the I Pad, you

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<v Speaker 2>do know they can see how much tape you watch right, You.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't know that, didn't you. Yeah, of course, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I know that. But I'm saying I'm sure he's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he's putting in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly they didn't think so, or they wouldn't have added

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<v Speaker 2>that if that was a if you doing what you say,

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<v Speaker 2>why you sign it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, if you think he wasn't doing it, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pay him money you paid him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I put that in his contract. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>That that that for one that's doing a little too

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<v Speaker 1>much on their part. Well, I got to take my.

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<v Speaker 3>Basket, but I want to make sure you do it

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<v Speaker 3>with your spot ojo.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're paying him for a reason, the reason you

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<v Speaker 1>paid him is because you know he's good at what

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<v Speaker 1>he does. Now, I wanted to get better, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta go work for any business. You don't think

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN got a morality clause. You don't think these these

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<v Speaker 2>companies have moraley, I'm playing you x amount of nobels

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<v Speaker 2>and you think I'm gonna let you do whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want arbitrarily and not have my face is covered.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about playing video games at home and the

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<v Speaker 1>company your own home.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying there are certain parameters because I need protection.

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<v Speaker 2>So in other words, I've got to put this in

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<v Speaker 2>here because what I've noticed is that you're not studying enough,

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<v Speaker 2>o Jo.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, you know what's funny is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody, I'm not sure who it is, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just fans that were that were able to track when

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<v Speaker 1>he was online. And the fact that they're that they're saying, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray's online because they knew his gamer tag or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it might have been. And the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>keep posting it and posting and posting it. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they put it in there, because the NFL had

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<v Speaker 1>no way of knowing if you online gaming or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe. It ain't about the NFL. It's about the team.

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<v Speaker 1>When you mean the team, I'm sorry, im sorry, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean owner paying it can tell you how much

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<v Speaker 2>film you watch for the week, and him being a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>The hours didn't match. Hours don't match, O Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>In order, there's a price to be paid for greatness

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<v Speaker 2>and pretend. Everybody says, I want to be great, But

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing everything it takes to be great?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what he you know what he had to

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<v Speaker 1>do to even get to this point. I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>knows what to take.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to do something to get to this point,

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<v Speaker 3>O Joe. So what it.

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<v Speaker 1>Showed, it showed wasn't luck. No show wasn't Look have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen calamary play? Have you seen his high school footage?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen what he did in NFL that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>good in high school?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I wasn't good in high school because.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't got scholars You wouldn't have got a scholarship,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what if the n A I, A Division III,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>Juco, I think, I think to me, to me, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly at the quarterback position and understanding what it entails

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing what it takes for a quarterback to even

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<v Speaker 1>insult him with that clause with a bunch of bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that That's how I feel. It was insulting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was insulting and embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't It wasn't insulting. For him that the

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<v Speaker 2>iPad was showing that he wouldn't put the hours in.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you keep saying the iPad because that you ever

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<v Speaker 2>noticed how you be thinking of something and your phone

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<v Speaker 2>and your phone will tell you what you're thinking about,

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<v Speaker 2>and you didn't say a word?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want you? You ever wanted that? Like with Damn?

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<v Speaker 1>How did they know what I was?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking that, I said, I was thinking that,

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<v Speaker 2>I see where you're going. Man, look here, and plus

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta, I gotta, Oh Joe, that's what you're gonna do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you said you said if you were to get married,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say you were with real, you gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a prenup. While you put a prenup in there. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what that woman had to get you do

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<v Speaker 2>to propose to her? And now you don't trust her? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I like this?

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<v Speaker 2>See I like this because I like to flip it

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<v Speaker 2>back over you. Do you know what that woman had

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<v Speaker 2>to do to GETO to take her out, take her

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<v Speaker 2>serious and ask her hand in marriage?

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<v Speaker 3>But now you want protections against yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Why, well, it's just just in case, just in case,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the Bible, list in the Bible, in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible that said, protect thee self for you for ye

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<v Speaker 1>it never know it's.

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<v Speaker 3>You made that up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's twelve No, no, no, that's in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Protect thee self for ye ever know it's what may happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it's in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinal is that applicable to the cardinals?

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<v Speaker 1>It is, it is. But again, I still think it's insulting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that you shouldn't that you shouldn't put that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of language in the contract because what are you

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<v Speaker 1>telling me? What?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you telling me? What are you telling her

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<v Speaker 2>when you get that prenup? What are you telling her?

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<v Speaker 1>I like you with this. I like what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one. That's a good one. Hey. I like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one. And you got me up against

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<v Speaker 1>them all right now. But I'm trying to fight. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fight, but I'm missing all the punches.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good But I think Kyler, you know, Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Manziel said, Kyler Murray is the greatest high school Texas

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<v Speaker 2>player in high school history.

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<v Speaker 3>He says it's him. He didn't lose a game in

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<v Speaker 3>high school.

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<v Speaker 2>He was well, he went for like forty something and oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he won three straight championships in Texas' biggest division. At

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<v Speaker 2>Allen Texas, he had over four thousand yards rushing with

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<v Speaker 2>almost seventy touchdowns, over ten thousand yards passing with one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventeen touchdowns. And that's Texas. And we know

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that have come out of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>The balls, they got some balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, they got He said the greatest player.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't say quarterback, he said player. And we know

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<v Speaker 2>from Earl Campbell to Eric Dickerson, to Matthew Stafford to

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<v Speaker 2>b Y to all those guys, Nick Fole, Drew Breathe

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<v Speaker 2>case Keenum.

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<v Speaker 1>Some boys come about and had some boys come about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Out absolutely have. Uh, but I'm happy. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>Coyler to get healthy. And but you know, o Jo,

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<v Speaker 2>there are certain sacrifices. Even you as much as you

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<v Speaker 2>like to play, there are certain things that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 3>To be great at this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Most definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got a lot of homeboys that want

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and you're like, bro, I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that or not I got I can't game tape, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I think your approach to the game is

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<v Speaker 1>a little different than most people's you went to the extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know just by hearing your stories,

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<v Speaker 1>you went to the extreme for me. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know much about me. But when I played un Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I practiced, I was, I was. It was something wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I took all the guy damn reps. I

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<v Speaker 1>took scout team, I ran down on special teams. I

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<v Speaker 1>was embedded. But once I left that facility, once I

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<v Speaker 1>left that facility on, that was me time. That was

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<v Speaker 1>me time, and my mean time was spent playing FIFA.

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<v Speaker 1>My mean time was spent playing Madden to reset and

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<v Speaker 1>get a mental reset, to get away from the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football until the next day boom. Then I'm locked

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<v Speaker 1>back in.

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<v Speaker 3>I reset. I think I reset offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah see Noah, you YouTube again and you live. You

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<v Speaker 1>live your life like this as well. Right now. You

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<v Speaker 1>work work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work. You

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<v Speaker 1>have no break. You have you can't live your life

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's worked for you because you've done it

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. But for the younger kids and the

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<v Speaker 1>younger generation, that might not be good. It might not

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<v Speaker 1>be good. It's it's great to love and play the

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<v Speaker 1>game at the highest level, but at some point. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to have a little balance. You got to have

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<v Speaker 1>a little balance, and at times you can be great

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<v Speaker 1>and have that balance as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe you can have balance to greatness. You

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<v Speaker 2>think Michael Jordan had balance, sank Serena.

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<v Speaker 3>We know he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he did. What what was? What was? What was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the one things that Michael Jordan loved to

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<v Speaker 1>do outside of basketball, matter of fact, and did it

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<v Speaker 1>during the season. What's the one thing he loves to do? Bingo?

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray loves loves to play video games like I do. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, listen, I know we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray, but we talk about ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, All of them young bulls play video games,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why there's only a handful of teams that win.

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<v Speaker 2>Tink about the teams that win have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with it. They had they had?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, come on, So you're saying if they

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<v Speaker 1>put a video game down all of a sudden, they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just saying there's a reason why they've only

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<v Speaker 2>been a handful of truly, truly great quarterback And I

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<v Speaker 2>keep asking you about Peyton Come on, man, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>asking you. I'm asking you about Peyton, I'm asking you

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<v Speaker 2>about Brady. Take the great quarter. Okay, let's just take

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<v Speaker 2>now in the in the social media era, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take Patrick Holmes. How much video games you think

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<v Speaker 2>you played?

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<v Speaker 1>He plays them. I'm just want to tell you because

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<v Speaker 1>I play against him. You want me tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>you play? He plays Call of Duty? Okay, how much

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<v Speaker 1>you think? How much you think the Peyton and Brady played?

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<v Speaker 1>How about you think played? I don't know. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>not their thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's their thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the makeup of the Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the makeup of the teams. These quarterbacks were surrounded with

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<v Speaker 1>they were surrounded with greatness. Question helped them propel themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not because they weren't playing. Let's understand. Let's understand

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<v Speaker 1>why they weregate. They were great in their own right

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<v Speaker 1>with a superior supporting cast around them.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask your question, if I took Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>and put him on Baltimore, how good do you think

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<v Speaker 2>they would be?

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you say that? Lamar?

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<v Speaker 2>You told me, you told me to Baltimore. Ravens top

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom had the best roster in football. So why

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<v Speaker 2>are you saying, holy shit?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It would it would be nice. You take Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>putting them the Chiefs, you get the same thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Are you serious? Yeah, it ain't nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with Lamar Lamarin's dynamic. Lamar's dynamic in his own right.

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<v Speaker 2>She would have if I play, if I put Lamar,

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<v Speaker 2>if I put lam on Kansas City they went in

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, offensively, there would be a different offensive dynamic. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a different offensive dynamic if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>great defense, if you still got spast you got Andy Reid,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows Listen, listen, stay with me. Now, Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Munkin had a great year together. Yes, can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine Lamar Jackson and motherfucking Andy Reid. Boy, picture that

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<v Speaker 1>you said about Picasso. You thought Picasso was creative and

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<v Speaker 1>what he did, and I imagine, God damn Andy Reid

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<v Speaker 1>and Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not Patrick Mahomes is Andy Reid.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm said no, no, because he's great. He would

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<v Speaker 1>be great. Where they're thirty two teams, they're thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>other teams outside of the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomee can going

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<v Speaker 1>the other thirty one two teams thirty one teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>he will be a difference maker because of who he is,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the skill set that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he better? Is he better in Cincinnati's offense than

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow? Because that's the question when you when I

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<v Speaker 2>when I pose these questions to you, I'm asking you,

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<v Speaker 2>are they better or worse? So if I take if

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<v Speaker 2>I take Lamar and put him in it's Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know what you put him in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>the office has to change completely based on the type

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterback we have. Everything changes, so we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hypothetical. But again there's a certain type offense

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<v Speaker 1>of Lamar runs and a certain type office that Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes and Joe Burrow runs. It's completely different based on

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<v Speaker 1>the style of quarterback we talk about. You know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, again I like it. I like the dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>because you're naming the cream of the crop when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to NFL quarterbacks. But I'm asking you, there styles

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<v Speaker 1>a player different and it's all on preference and based

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<v Speaker 1>on who you like.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's my point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying cream of the crop and the preparation that

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<v Speaker 2>it takes to become cream of the trop I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in order to become that, you have to do what

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<v Speaker 2>others want or can, and sometimes you got to do both.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>So Brady didn't have the god given ability, Manning didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the god given ability, say a Lamar or Patrick mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>But what they had to do was this. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to out thank you. I had to know what you

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<v Speaker 2>were gonna do before you actually did it. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't because I can't run away from anybody. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't getting away from nobody. Them guys gonna chase me

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<v Speaker 2>down every time. That's why I can play two man

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<v Speaker 2>against Payton, That's why I can play two man against

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<v Speaker 2>Brady where they going Okay, they might scrambling to get

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<v Speaker 2>eight yards, but they're not gonna hit their head on

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<v Speaker 2>the goal post like you do it at Lamar or

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<v Speaker 2>like they would with Josh Allen. Patrick Mahone's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>you twenty five thirty because we've seen him do it,

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<v Speaker 2>take off running, and so that's all I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 2>just believe for me that in order to be great,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to do things that others don't not

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<v Speaker 2>do it and you're gonna have to sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I want to do certain things?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But for me studying that game tape at home,

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<v Speaker 2>so I knew so when I saw it. Yet, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember watching this thing Wednesday night. Here come that

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<v Speaker 2>foot Yep, they line up in this board, Makland, it's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to run this this crossbuk and low and behold.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing made me feel better than when I studied something.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, watching it with the team is one thing, but

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<v Speaker 3>when I can find.

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<v Speaker 1>It, I don't like washing it. I don't like watching

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<v Speaker 1>with the team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We were on the same page with that. I love

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<v Speaker 1>studying tape. Let's think about this real quick, right. People

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<v Speaker 1>get caught up in their flamboyant stuff. I did the antics,

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<v Speaker 1>the trash talking, the bullishing board material that I purposely

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<v Speaker 1>put out every week for a decade, maybe eleven years

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<v Speaker 1>straight on Wednesdays. Right, Do you understand the type of

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<v Speaker 1>study and I had to do to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>talk trash and say the things I said before we

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<v Speaker 1>even played game day? Think about it. I mean, people,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't see that side of it. So the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason I'm arguing back and forth because I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>time and study and that I had to do to

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<v Speaker 1>be on point to be able to talk and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go out there and walk it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're saying a little bit. But then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about I'm taking it back to myself, not

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<v Speaker 1>putting myself in the quarterback position. But I understood I

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<v Speaker 1>had to have that mental he said, to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to once I'm away from work, Boom, I got to decompress.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta reset mentally. I need this gaming to be

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<v Speaker 1>my outlet and my peace of mind away from the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Next morning, six am, boom, I'm back. I'm back at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm locked in here it again. To your point,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably are right though.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what Patrick Mahomes said about playing Call of Duty

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen. Many NFL players bring their game consoles

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<v Speaker 2>with them on the road during the season, my home says,

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<v Speaker 2>not him. I try to make sure I can focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the game plan the night before the game. During

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<v Speaker 2>the season, I try to have my set schedules. I

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<v Speaker 2>do get like two hours in a week on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>or Friday to kind of blow some steam. But the

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<v Speaker 2>offseason is when I get my grind and play the

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<v Speaker 2>three to four hours at a time. Now you are heard,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it. I'm just saying what he said. We

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<v Speaker 2>can move on. Ain't no labeling. How many times you

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<v Speaker 2>said something purposely knowing that he said he plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I said I said a lot of things too

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<v Speaker 1>to the media because I have to. I'm the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the face of the franchise. I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>all the right thing you do.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to do like you said, you do realize

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<v Speaker 2>like that person that's tracking Taylor swift jet.

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<v Speaker 3>You know people can track this right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they don't know Mahome's game attack. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the game attack. It's not public. I'm telling you they

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<v Speaker 1>don't because I be on witting.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, NFL GM or CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud S two test it was complete, bs that it

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<v Speaker 2>was leaked Stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>J that's some some funck shit hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud draft journey has some speed bumps, including his S

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<v Speaker 2>two cognitive test cognition tests, which resorted being leaked publicly

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<v Speaker 2>during pre JAFT process. He reportedly scored just an eighteen percentile,

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<v Speaker 2>calling in the question for some people if he should

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<v Speaker 2>be a quarterback at the first quarterback selected Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 2>with number one overall, and the Panthers reportedly he scored

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<v Speaker 2>in the ninety eighth percentile. And now it's reported today

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison Junior is not expected to do any testing

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<v Speaker 2>at the twenty twenty four Scouting Combined this week. Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>probably will not test that Ohio State Pro date either.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's some we can take. We can take CJ's

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<v Speaker 2>UH issue first and then I want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>you and see what was your combine experience. Like SoJ

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<v Speaker 2>it was leaked because we've seen the leak test before. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>They they leaked Viz Young and he scored. He scored

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<v Speaker 1>an eight.

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<v Speaker 2>UH.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's funny how they leak certain players.

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<v Speaker 1>They doing it on purpose. Of course it's a sabotage.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it on purpose anything to gets you, anything

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<v Speaker 1>to get your stock to fall. But listen, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I never understood when it comes to scouts, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to owners, they put so much emphasis on

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that have nothing to do with the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football in general, nothing to do with the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football in general. Vince Young, c J. Stroud, Rich Young,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the other grades there are taking these tests

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<v Speaker 1>that to some it has some type of degree of merit,

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<v Speaker 1>of valid vale ability when it comes to playing football.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn on the goddamn tape. Turn on the goddamn tape. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the goddamn tape. What do you see c J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud doing it? Goddamn Ohio State? Turn on the goddamn tape.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you see Ben Sung doing at Texas? Turn

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<v Speaker 1>on the tape and tell me what you saw Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Young doing in Alabama. I don't care nothing about no

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn test scores because ain't no test. Ain't no test scores,

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<v Speaker 1>and no test going on in between them fucking lines

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<v Speaker 1>at all, none at all. It had nothing. Another thing

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<v Speaker 1>they put so much on, so much emphasis on the

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn for the yard dash the game. Can you please

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<v Speaker 1>tell me the last time the game of football was

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<v Speaker 1>playing the straight motherfucker? Oh, why am I cursing so much?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry? Please tell me the last time the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football we're playing in the straight line. Never. It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to be fast. Everybody in the NFL is fast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. It's it's a it's a great it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great weapon to have. But do you have to be fast?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. Can you get from point A to point

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<v Speaker 1>B fast within the time of the offense? Can you stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get off bumping? Run? Can you beat man

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<v Speaker 1>the man? Can you read? There's so many other fastest

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. As farther come to play the game

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<v Speaker 1>at receiver, Well, you don't have to be running four

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<v Speaker 1>two and four three and four four four four five?

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<v Speaker 1>You got what?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What? What did Jerry Rice run four six? Again? The

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<v Speaker 1>most complete receiver considered, he is the greatest of all time. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just some of these rules, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they look at as owners and scouts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funking. Oh my god, it's ridiculous. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for me, I agree with you, I just won't.

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<v Speaker 2>I want the combine to confirm what I saw on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>If he plays fast, let's see if he runs fast,

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<v Speaker 2>if he have if he if he's good from point

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<v Speaker 2>A to point B, Let's see how short he's short,

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<v Speaker 2>shuttle is. That's all the combine is supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>If offer you confirmation for what you saw on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>If the guy's explosive, let me see his vertical let

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<v Speaker 2>me see his standing broad up. When I saw Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Parsons and I saw his test, he confirmed what I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that he was explosive, that he was fast from

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<v Speaker 2>point A to point B. That's all that all I needed,

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<v Speaker 2>All I needed was the combine to confirm. Now, sometimes Ojo,

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<v Speaker 2>we get a situation with a guy like damn, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like that, he didn't look this fast on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I missed something, so let me go back

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<v Speaker 2>and watch some more tape, or maybe, Ojo, man, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>he played faster than this on tape. Let me see

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<v Speaker 2>why he's not running fast. Test it. There's a funny thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's a thing people that carried their pads.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you heard that saying, right, yes, some

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<v Speaker 1>people carry their pads. Well, when they had the pads on,

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<v Speaker 1>you could be a four to six, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>put your pads on, you run a four to three.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if thats gonna make sense to the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the chat, but it just does. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>people that run a four to three and they put

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<v Speaker 1>the pads on, they running four to six. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>play as fast as they run or run fast.

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<v Speaker 2>And playing faster or tire to two different things completely different,

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<v Speaker 2>completely different, especially once you put them pads on.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have people like Tyree, Tyreek Hill. You have

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<v Speaker 1>people like Chris Johnson, you got people like John Ross.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some other names.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you got John Ross. He ran fast, he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>play fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you look at Tyreek and you look at CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were the guys that can control that speed. There

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<v Speaker 2>are very few guys that can run as fast as

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<v Speaker 2>those guys that can control the speed. That's why you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see very many track guys. I mean you for

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<v Speaker 2>every Bob Hayes who changed the game, because before he

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<v Speaker 2>came along, all they played with man coverage. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>got a guy that's the Olympic gold medalist, and how

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna play man coverage on him?

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<v Speaker 3>You better come up with all.

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<v Speaker 2>You better play with a golf because you gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>the top off every time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you get guys like like who's that? Like Sam?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm granted guy would win the silver medal in the

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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred meters, was on the Olympic goal, but

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't control the speed. You get some guys like Tyreek, Tyreek,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe had he trained, I'm not saying he could

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<v Speaker 2>have made the Olympics but he had Olympic speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he does making the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about peaking at the trials, because we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>guys run fast, but not run fast at the trials.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if it's all or not. But you get

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<v Speaker 2>a guy like a Chris Johnson that runs four to two,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for two four and you watch him play,

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<v Speaker 2>he ran, He played.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he ring.

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<v Speaker 1>That's as fast as he ran. Yeah, and some people

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<v Speaker 1>people don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You could tell Tyreek you even if you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about the game of football, if you watch Tyreek,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll play. You could say, oh, hell yeah, because I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen a guy accelerate like Tyreek. I've seen guys fast,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've never seen a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can go in one step and he full speed and

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<v Speaker 1>be gone. And you know, you know what the funny

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it is, if you take most of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say, of the top five sprinters right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>top five sprinters in the US, so just worldwide, the

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<v Speaker 1>top five sprinters, if you can teach them the small

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<v Speaker 1>nuances of being able to play receiver, with which it

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<v Speaker 1>would be, it be hard. It'd be hard to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but just oh my goodness, everything that wouldn't be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Because what is it about?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about a guy that is fast his

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<v Speaker 2>deceleration and accelerating because what you feel about God, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of speed, because it's like going one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred miles an hour. I don't care how good your

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<v Speaker 2>breaks are, it's gonna take you a while to start

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<v Speaker 2>to stop. What Tyreek has been able to do is

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<v Speaker 2>being able to control that speed. He's able to get

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of that break. He could get up

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<v Speaker 2>earth and run the comeback. He can get run the

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<v Speaker 2>deed run mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And the funny thing about Tyreek is which I love

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<v Speaker 1>about him, is the threat of people already knowing he's fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and he never has to run for speed. He can

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<v Speaker 1>give the illusion that he's moving faster because he's already

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<v Speaker 1>short and the legs be turning, but you never know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's really at top speed or not, because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to use it because you're already scared, you're

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<v Speaker 1>already scarce.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has he's a little he has track speed

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<v Speaker 2>in a football body. If you look at most track

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<v Speaker 2>guys they're fin framed.

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<v Speaker 1>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta be because the lighter you are, the faster

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<v Speaker 2>you can go.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Formula one card, they're light as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that's just a shell because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be light. There's a reason why Cheetah can I run

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<v Speaker 2>a lion. There's a reason why Cheatah get I run

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<v Speaker 2>an elephant because it's the size ratio. Well, as a

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>football player, a track guy, those guys are finding. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at no allowed or you look at currently. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at Roy Benjamin Norman all THEO. I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Americans. Look at him, they find Yeah, you look

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<v Speaker 2>at I don't think there's ever been a buff u like.

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<v Speaker 1>A buff or or a person of size that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually fast. I think they have guys that are that

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<v Speaker 1>are short ben John Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson John Yeah, he's on that brother man though, so

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<v Speaker 2>he don't count. But you look at you look at

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<v Speaker 2>guys like a Henry Neal that was compact and that

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Coleman has had some size. But they're like sure, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you look at this that they're normally thin.

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<v Speaker 3>They're normally thin.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem you're talking about, I'm thinking, no, allowed probably weighs

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<v Speaker 2>one sixty one sixty five maybe maybe one.

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<v Speaker 1>He sends me on the top of a speed. What

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<v Speaker 1>you think the boys are running the forty like if

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<v Speaker 1>if if I'm trying no allows, Fred Curley, Christian Coleman,

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<v Speaker 1>if they was to go run the forty yards boss

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<v Speaker 1>for no blocks?

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean, let's let's do no blocks, because Christian

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<v Speaker 2>Cowan probably would be somewhere if with his start right,

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<v Speaker 2>his start can run flub for two?

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<v Speaker 1>You think, so, yeah, for sure, I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>faster than that man for two.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>But now you have to understand. Now you said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta give him. You got to give him like

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<v Speaker 2>a two, like you give him six weeks and he's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna train. Like these guys go to Arizona or

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>of Florida or California. All they do is trained, right,

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>they're training because these guys are spending now they're training

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>for one hundred meters, they're training for two hundred. So

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<v Speaker 2>all I want you to do for six weeks is

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<v Speaker 2>to train for the forty Oh he gonna want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's damn. That's damn today drive phase. I can

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<v Speaker 1>I can see them running the forty Listen, I'm don't

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>call me crazy if you want. I'm thinking I can

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<v Speaker 1>see them running three nine or four flat simply because.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanley Floyd, Uh, he from Dardy High School in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he might have ran three nine because he

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<v Speaker 2>raced the horse one time on uh uh.

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<v Speaker 3>What was it? What were they they used to have

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<v Speaker 3>like race horses.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Stanley Floyd by that who has the fastest

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<v Speaker 2>forty time ever re recorded?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, I know you don't remember Ron Ron Brown.

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Ron Brown could run to He played with the Rams,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>but in my time, like Ron Brown, Sam Grandy, Uh

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>they called him Dot Willie Gaul, Willie from Georgia.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 3>H yeah, uh, who's who else? Brand?

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 2>James Jett. James Jett was on the gold medal team

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>in ninety two.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember James Jet.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 3>He played with the Raiders.

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>He ran on his toes.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about can run man? He called across the

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>road on us?

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Out of there?

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 3>What because? See?

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>But see the Raiders, the Raiders had had like a

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>track team. I mean they had Willie God was there

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Willi Gaul? They had Willie gauw uh h, DoD Sam Grandy,

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Dad Swerve and Murphy from Menandez Tim Brown.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh they was loaded.

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they can fly though.

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Stanley Floyd. I think Stanley Floyd. U uh, Stanley Floyd

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>for he went to darted high schooler Georgie. Hey, we

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>have a guy that can run at Georgia die. Yeah,

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>uh uh, but yeah, that's the thing, oh Joe, that's

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the thing which with guys' speed, because a lot of

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>times can you control the speed.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Speed is no good in the football feel if you

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>can't control it.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what it all comes down to. It all comes

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>down to sometimes the time being able to not only

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>control your speed, but give the illusion that you're moving fast,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>so you can be able to decelerate, accelerate, go left,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>go right, and do all the things you need to

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>do because obviously the game of football, as you know,

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>is not played in the straight line.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Nope, no it's not. So what what are some of

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>your draft uh uh? Draft combine experience?

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I really can't remember much. It was so long ago.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I do remember that I did run in some bright bright,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>bright yellow yellow tights, which is which is weird. I

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>ran a four or five of the combine for some reason,

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. John Clayton said, you need

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to work on that speed. Yeah, yeah, and went.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Listen. I saw I ran a four five and I stumbled.

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I stumbled and still got I still was able to

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>gather myself up and still run four five. But then

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>when it was time for the drills, I ate the

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>drills and then obviously once you once I put pads on.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>As you can see, I played four three as opposed

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to what my forty time said, which is really weird.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I was nervous. I was nervous for one, obviously having

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to display my skills are front all the owners, and

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it was a new experience for me. You got to understand,

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't been at the division ie level what I

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>was there after at Oregon State for four months and

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>then now all of a sudden, here come April. I

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>met at the freaking what's the name? Whose stadium is

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that again? The Coats?

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Lucas Oil.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was at Lucas Oil Stadium and I'm in

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>front of all these owners and it was like, oh

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, I'm excited, like I'm almost like I'm I'm

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, like holy shit, dog, you almost there,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>like you really Finna get drafted. I don't know where

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting drafted, but the fact, the fact that the

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>matter is I'm here at the combinea get drafted. So

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it's a little nervousness in me. And I didn't run

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a good forty time, but it didn't matter because when

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>it came to doing the other tests, I aced all

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>those as far as running routes, cone drills and all

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the other stuff, and the rest was history. Because you

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>know what happened on Sundays.

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 2>There used to be a show come on. I think

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>it was ABC. It was called That's Incredible. I know

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't remember because I was a kid when it

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 2>came on, and That's incredible. They would they would do

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>they would do, uh, like like he raced the horse, but.

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>You forgot remember remember I raced You didn't see why

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I raced the horse.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 3>You lost though he beat the horse.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I want I want tail. I asked to pull it

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>up and show you real quick, listen. That's how That's

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 1>how I know I was really Honestly, if I wasn't

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>nervous at the combine, I would have ran probably four

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>one four two, Like that's the kind of speed I had. Huh,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what you do, right, No, no, no, that's not

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>what I do. Because it was in an unfamiliar environment.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like when you go on your first day. You know,

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the butterflies of your stomach, you know how you're nervous. Yes,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that's how it felt. Because it was it was unfamiliar

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for me. I didn't know it was like to go

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Carbine. I didn't play at a big Division

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>one school for four years and and I'm used to

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the crowd and all of it.

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Was it was all you played with the college football.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, then so all that other job throw that women,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 2>if you can play play football, I wondered.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I went to Division one four months. I was four months.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I was gone, Yeah, that's it, that's what you need it.

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, I know, I know. It wasn't Lucasaw. It

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 3>was the r c A Dome. I get it.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But we're saying it was an indy, right y'all, y'all,

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Just is it they getting on you about that? Yeah?

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Come on chat. You know, chill, chill, chill, chid chill.

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>It used to be the Combine used to be regional.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>So whatever reason you in, you ran there before before

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>they brought it all to Indy. I think they brought

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 2>it in Indy, like in eighty seven, eighty six, eighty seven.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 3>I think that was the first year that they had it.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Everybody used to complain about the surface being spongy, being spongy.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Until until somebody tell them, guys, well, there's always somebody

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 2>that was gonna run sub for three and it's like

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 2>it ain't nothing wrong with the turk.

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my year we had J. D. Williams the

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:04.959
<v Speaker 3>dB out of prisone state.

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>He ran for two nine what oh yeah, he ran

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>four to nine, so he could he cover Yeah, he

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:15.479
<v Speaker 2>had a bed sheet over your bed.

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 3>That's the only thing. He was covered the bed with

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 3>a bed sheet. It's all.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It's all about controlling the speed and understanding leveraging man.

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 3>And he came back back.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 2>He was first round pick from uh uh presno State, Buffalo.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I can talk. I can talk about that all day, man,

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>all day.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Damn Christian Coe What what did Christian Coleman ran? I know, Christmas,

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I think Christian Coleman ran for what nine?

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I know I beat that Horton. I beat that horse.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know some people say, oh, you got a

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>head start what hell? He got one more legs than

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I do? What you expect?

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, he got two more legs than you.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, stay with me.

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 3>He got so he got five legs.

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you caught that fast?

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah he got he got five d so he

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>still got you bout you.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>You caught that fast? That was a good you know what?

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Ojoe? Uh my draft?

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Look I had uh I had some Pegasus niken Pegasus.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I read about forty nake you pegasus.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Wait, you're supposed to be light as possible. Pass was heavy,

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he?

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh? You man? Ain't bro, I ain't know nothing about that.

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I ain't have no money.

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>To waffle shoes. You ain't had no waffle shoes.

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 2>No, bro, I, oh Joe, I ain't no nothing about that, Bro.

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I ain't going all I did All I did. I

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 2>ran a hundred meter sprints. Get ready. I ain't doing

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>no shuttle drills. I ain't doing no vertical, I ain't

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>doing no standing a long. I ain't just no, I

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>ain't no nothing.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 3>So I ran. I think I ran like a four

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 3>to six six and a four six seven.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah that's fast now, But for your sad all

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I know twenty that's moving now.

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 3>All I know is.

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>That when we went to I went to the Blue

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Gray Game, which was on Christmas Day. It was in Montgomery, Montgomery, Alabama.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>And then when I went to the East West Ride

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>it was at Palo Alto. I just remember calling my

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 2>brother and they had you know a lot. I ain't

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 2>no receiver here better than me, see better than me,

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what you told them say. Ain't nothing better than me,

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>none of them, none, none, none, zero, zelch we.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Went one on one. We had the one on one

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 3>drills cooked everybody.

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Everybody cooked them. He speaking of I went to the

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. I'll never forget one of my favorites, will

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>always be one of my favorite players, always one of

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>my favorite player from Mississippi State. That got damn Fred

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>smooth Okay that god damn Fred smooth Man. One of

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the greatest personalities, one of the greatest human beings I

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:45.919
<v Speaker 1>ever met.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't get to see him as often as I like,

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 1>but man, every time I saw Fred Man, it was

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>always loved. When we played. When we played Minnesota, it

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.919
<v Speaker 1>was in Minnesota. You talk about talking some shit, man,

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>We talked Hellowship Man before the game. I love Fred it.

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Man, O Joe, ah Man, Man, Oh Joe wa man.

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 3>You know what they gave you? Man?

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Check this out, O Joe, Yes, sir, you out of

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>a one hundred. What do you think my combrian grade was?

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Out of one hundred? Yeah you yeah, probably sixty eight.

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I got an f I got a thirty seven real hey,

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>a size.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 3>They gave me one out of one hundred.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Speed.

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>They gave me sixty two out of one hundred. Agility.

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>They gave me ten out of one hundred quickness. They

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>gave me thirty six out of one hundred.

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Overall.

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Ready, who's your overall? What would they give you?

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 3>My overall was thirty seven?

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>You see, I thought you was hell when you was well.

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I was sick that day.

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey, can he can ask fine mine?

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.959
<v Speaker 3>Hey? Look at this, y'all. Look at what your boy, nigga,

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 3>what they gave you?

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Boy, fine old joes, we're gonna fit. Hey, Hey, now

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>think about that. You see now see they based everything

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 2>run jump. All I know is that I got I'm

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>number two sixty seven. I can run upstairs right quick

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and get that gold jacket. I'm too sixty seven in

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Now let me tell

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>you who's in my draft Classmit Hall of Fame, court Kentnedy,

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame, reil your sayout, Hall of Fame, myself,

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame. Johnny Randall, Hall of Fame. Johnny Randa

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>was undrafted. He was yes, Oh Joe, why you're over that, chief, kidd?

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what you got?

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>F two?

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 3>You got a thirty self a thirty eight. Holdo, what

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.479
<v Speaker 3>you got a thirty eight? Hey?

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 1>But hey, at least I got I got one high

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>than you. And hey, listen, hold on, hey, the F

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>on their stand for fabulous. That's a just how it

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>turned out fabulous.

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>They got they got, They got you uh at forty

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 2>they got you a four to six uh steady loans up.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 3>They got you one hundred and twenty inches.

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's good.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Uh no, that's ten feet.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't know, uh size.

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.760
<v Speaker 2>They gave you a forty six out of one hundred. Speed,

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>they gave you forty one out of one hundred. Agility,

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 2>they gave you forty three out of one hundred and sixty.

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 3>They gave you fifty out of one hundred.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Now that's how you know they don't know what the

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>hell they talk about agility agility.

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, we were so small. But oh Joe, you

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>know what we about? Go ahead, chalking up.

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 3>We were so small that combine.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm mad. Hey give me the name of the person

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>who motherfucking made the goddamn grading system.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Man, Hey, don't go back and run it. Are you're

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna be worth than you worked twenty years ago?

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh I could? I could? Oh well no, no, no, listen,

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been training for boxing the soccer right now, so

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I could run. I could run by the four six

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>right now?

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Who the fastest, Who had the fastest forty time as

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 2>a boxer? Because it don't matter, because you can't run

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 2>fast in that square?

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Man, they got me? How the hell bad? Look here,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh Joe, is just meant to be? How the hell

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 3>they got me?

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>When that man that day, that kind of hurt, That

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of hurt a little bit, that kind of because

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's how they really felt and that thought about me. Man,

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I got an F. I ain't seen F in a

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>long time. Damn, you shouldn't have showed me that. Yeah,

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>they got I told you that they might. The F

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.919
<v Speaker 1>stand for fantastic, fabulous.

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Man, they got uh flump failure? Man, How we're gonna

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>get how we're gonna get hurt yourself?

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Thirty eight.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>This is the problem. The people that they have in

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>positions of power that are judging these players don't know

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 1>what the hell they talking about or what they're looking for. See,

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that's why they need they that's what they need. My eyes.

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>They can need my eyes at the combine.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Guess what they couldn't they measure?

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 2>They can measure my height, they can measure my speed,

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>my strength, my quickness, my jumping ability.

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 3>You can't measure that. Can't measure that.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 2>So what if you get See if you have gave

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 2>me one hundred for this right here in the compensation

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:26.760
<v Speaker 2>for everything else that you can measure.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's the immeasurables.

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what you can't see, Yeah my desire to get me.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>All you had to do was just sit down for

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>just a second and ask what motivated Shining Sharp.

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 3>He said, we're gonna take that guy in the first round.

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Come on that.

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 2>You see that's the problem. See you all you think

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 2>about what did the tape? You forgot? You disregarded everything

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>that you saw on tape, right, and now you're gonna say, well,

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna disregard that he had one hundred and ninety

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>two catches forty touchdown. We're gonna disregard that thirty eight hundred.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>That don't mean nothing, right, So now it comes down

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to one day.

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, okay, Ship, that don't mean nothing. I don't remember

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 1>the last time anybody ever running a long jump on

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the field. When when when the ball snapped? Nobody running? No,

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember nobody running noose shuttle back and forth.

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 3>No, I ain't never saying I was going to the Olympics.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I need the person's name who gave me that

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 1>f I need to write them a letter. I need

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.399
<v Speaker 1>to write them a level thank you. I ain't saying

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you. He's gonna he's gonna get a piece of

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>my mind, Ship, every word I U was gonna start

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>with F two.

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Christian Coban ran a four to one. Uh forty okay, okay?

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know what right here, you understand.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Joe, I don't think people understand how fast that is.

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.359
<v Speaker 1>They don't they know, they don't They would have they.

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Would What did I say? Four to one? He ran

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 3>a four one two?

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I know when you say at four time, like huh.

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Four, one two.

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>He gets out so goddamn fast. He has the greatest

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>start of anybody I've ever seen. Yes, the greatest start

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of anybody I've ever seen. He gets out so fast.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>And the ability, the fact that he can hold it,

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he can saw that saw that that drive phase with

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>all of them, all of those those top top athletes

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that run, you got to.

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>You got to see him.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go, I'm gonna try to catch the Olympic

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 2>trials up and off up in Eugene, because you gotta

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 2>see you look like you see speed, but you got

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.839
<v Speaker 2>you get It's like in my sport. I've seen great

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>football players. I know what the great football players. And

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been to NBA game, so I know what the

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>great basketball players. But to watch these guys run and

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:53.240
<v Speaker 2>the difference between first and field, the first and sixth

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>is back.

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>And then you know the funny thing. I don't think

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>very many people outside of those that are track fan

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how fast these individuals are moving. Unto you

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>actually in that atmosphere. You got to be in that

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere to get an appreciation for what you see on TV,

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>because watching from TV does you know justice at all

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>until you actually see it up closer in person. It's amazing.

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing to see.

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I don't know why I keep saying. I

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 2>keep in my mind that Stanley Floyd. Stanley Floyd was

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>an amazing sprint of They boycotted the Moscow Olympics in

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty because of the Soviet Union invasion into Afghanistan,

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 2>and then the Soviets replayed repaid us the favor by

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 2>not coming in eighty four in the La Olympics, and

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>then you know, everybody reconvened in nineteen eighty eight.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Soul.

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>But to just watch those to watch those sprints, I mean,

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 2>track and feeling is my favorite sport to watch of

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 2>all the sports, football, basketball, whatever, give me track and

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 2>field first.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously you know soccer his mind, and football and

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:06.720
<v Speaker 1>football is well soccer's mind, and boxing and boxing and

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and football is is neck and neckcnnect.

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Man, Damn, I wish I could have got one more thing, right?

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Can't let you have a better grade than me?

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Man, Hey, I'm thirty eight thirty?

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Is it so? Another word?

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, you know I should have been drafted at

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 2>least you got drafted in the second round with A

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I went the seventh round.

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh listen, you know why I went second, because that's

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>how well I tested when it came to all those

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 1>other drills that had nothing to do with.

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 3>What the film whatever, whatever drill you can do, but.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>That that catching drill, the gauntlet, and the running routse.

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:45.479
<v Speaker 1>When they seen him running routse.

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was a rap.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It was a rap. It was a rap that forty

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 1>times in nothing. And then the singing bowl when I

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>went to the c and bowl, that solidified everything. You cooking,

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that senior bowl solidified everything. It was a rap. But

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he's about cooking. I didn't even know chef. I was

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>out there cooking, like I went to four years of

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>culinary art school. But you I was giving them boys

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that business.

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 3>You hear me.

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>You know you know who I missed now that you

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it, Man, I wonder where they are. Quincy Morgan.

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Quincy Morgan was in the draft for me that year.

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>God damn, Mike Vick obviously went first. I'm trying to

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>think of the receivers. I can't think of the receivers

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>from from God damn, it's sipping mind. Whoever remember Rod Gardner? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>he came like that. Yeah. I talked to Rod all

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the time. Man. That's that's a good dude. Damn I

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 1>missed those dudes. Man.

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Once I retired, he worked out with me a little

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 3>while I worked out with him.

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey boy, Rod, Yo boy Rod Yo? What?

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Damn?

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Joe?

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh, who do you trust to lead a game winning drive?

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>You got you got Josh Allen, Yeah, I got Lamar Jackson,

0:49:56.239 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 2>You got Joe Burrow, you got Justin Herbert, you c J.

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Stroud Okay, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Strod.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>If you notice now hold on game, game winning drive. Yes,

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going with Joe. Okay, I'm going with Joe and

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 1>before before before we go on, let me, let me,

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>let me tell the chat why I'm going with Joe.

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>All the quarterbacks your name are great, They're great in

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>their own right. Josh is great, Lamar Jackson is done

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>with Lamar Jackson has done obviously two time MVP. Justin

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Herbert is good, CD Shroud. Hell of up motherfucking season

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 1>last year. But again, Joe Burrowson twenty twenty one has

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:59.280
<v Speaker 1>five fourth quarter comebacks, two game winning drives, two postseason

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 1>game in drives, one versus the Titans, one versus the

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs in twenty two to one. And that's it.

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 3>That's enough.

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, that's that's enough. And that's that's why I'm

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>going with him.

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not going to get any disagreement for you,

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.280
<v Speaker 2>because I want to see him in the most pressure,

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 2>pressure rized situation, which is the NFL playoffs and in

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the NFL playoffs, and.

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 3>He's done both of those on the road.

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 2>So you're going to road against Tennessee, You're going the

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:25.720
<v Speaker 2>road against in the AFC Championship game against the Kansas

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 2>City Chiefs, who had just went to the Super Bowl

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the previous year. Hey, you get no, you get no,

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 2>You get no argument from me. But that was that

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 2>was a I mean, the guy that I would have

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that would be the last one I would think would

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>be Justin Herbert.

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Herbert Herbert. I mean, he hasn't he hasn't been in

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a situation at all. He hasn't been in a situation.

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 3>So he had some opportunities. He just come up small

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:48.439
<v Speaker 3>in most of them.

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely, I think things

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.399
<v Speaker 1>will change over Harbor over there. Yeamans are going to change.

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 3>They're going to run the ball.

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>We're running back because they didn't sign that cler back.

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, They're gonna go get one. You know, there's

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>some back they got on the market. Unless they're franchising

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Derrick Henry's.

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>They already said it, not gonna franchise Hm again, not

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a twelve min a year.

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Possibly available. Uh, you got Deack Henry. You got those

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>two guys in Baltimore.

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 3>JK. Dobbins is coming out for knee injury. You got

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Gus Edwards.

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yo, since you just said that, well, imagine if goddamn

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Derek Henry go to Baltimore.

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 3>You like Derrick Henry, you like Sa better.

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:36.839
<v Speaker 1>For that offense, I think is a different style of back.

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>He gives you a little bit more. But Derrick Henry

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>in that offense remind very reminiscent of like samaul Lewis

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>all over again. Boy boy stop.

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 2>It definitely be interesting to say what Baltimore is gonna do.

0:52:56.280 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh with the running back situation. Mitchell I heard I

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 2>played with his dad.

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, yeah I did too. Yeah yeah yeah, you

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>play you play safety?

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Fuss Uh So he's it's probably gonna take it's probably

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna I don't know. I don't know if they started

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 2>off on Pump or how soon he's young. So and

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the way they do the surgery. Now, man, these guys

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>coming back in record time from a cl surgery. But

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you know there's gonna be some guys available. You know,

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 2>there's always guys in the draft.

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 2>The one thing about the Ravens, they're not afraid the

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>draft the running back. But it's gonna be very That

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 2>would be very, very interesting to see what direction the

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Ravens go in because they're pretty solid everything else. Nice

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:43.799
<v Speaker 2>offensive line, lamar m v P. You got Zave Flowers,

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you got Babeman, Andrews's gonna come back healthy, you got

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 2>likely who else they got? They got Duverney. I think

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>they only signed Agular for a year. Uh, they got

0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Odell's still Odell is a free agent again, so I

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 2>think they got they got a Knight, they got a

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:08.920
<v Speaker 2>nice squad coming back. Maybe maybe a piece. Question is

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<v Speaker 2>what are they gonna do with Queen? He's a free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're gonna franchise him. That number is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be too big. Are they gonna are they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>bring Marlon Humphrey back. He's probably got a big cap number,

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little long in the tooth. Injuries are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to happen with greater regularity, ojo. You know, you're making

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<v Speaker 2>big dollars and the injuries start to creep up on you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's approaching thirty. If he's not thirty, hold is Marlon

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<v Speaker 2>hump ash.

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<v Speaker 1>They gonna use it an issue every.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, absolutely, especially you know, the injury, the injury bug.

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<v Speaker 3>You're starting to Martin Hummers only twenty seven?

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<v Speaker 1>God, that's it? Are we good? He's good for another three?

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<v Speaker 1>He good for another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But at that number, what's his cap number? That's the

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<v Speaker 2>question though, O Joe, what's that cap number?

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's that high?

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<v Speaker 3>I think got a big contract.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time. Uh, maybe they reworked it. Twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>point eight. It's a big number.

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<v Speaker 1>What's you think. Maybe add some restructure, Yeah, add some restructure,

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<v Speaker 1>loaded up, give them some give them some money from

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<v Speaker 1>money and put in the form of signing bonus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.