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Speaker 1: is Jeffrey Gorman. Joined Weekend and Week Out by Miss

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Speaker 1: Lara Overton. JJ Stankobitz from Colts dot Com. The senior

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Speaker 1: writer is here and guys, I want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: It seems like we haven't played football in forever because

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Speaker 1: we are sitting here on a Tuesday, and it seems

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Speaker 1: a little confused, but I'm fired up about this upcoming game.

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Speaker 1: I don't I forgot what a weekend off it was,

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that nice? I went to brunch on Sunday about

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Speaker 1: that family. We just kind of hung out. It was

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Speaker 1: very relaxing, watched a lot of football. Jeffrey just jumped.

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Speaker 1: He was at jack. But because I love what hearing

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Speaker 1: what you're doing with your family. But this lady has

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Speaker 1: a she has a horse for a pet. She's newly married.

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Speaker 1: I need to find out about your weekend. You're the

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Speaker 1: pride of Broad Ripple, you and Tucker. Let's not forget

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Speaker 1: about Tug. So what happened with your weekend? Well? I

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Speaker 1: tweeted about this because I did not have the best

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Speaker 1: a Sunday because I went to the grocery grocery, grocery store,

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Speaker 1: you could say, I apparently cannot speak either. And I

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Speaker 1: my red wine that I was planning to enjoy with

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Speaker 1: the sea. The concrete splattered everywhere, broken glass, cut my hand, whoa,

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Speaker 1: there's red wine everywhere. I'm trying to pick it all up,

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Speaker 1: And I caught my thumbnail on fire. Oh gosh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it literally exactly exactly. I had already broken

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Speaker 1: So I cannot freaking weight to get back to work.

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Speaker 1: What happened? What happened? Because I mean back in the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was opus one or something now

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Speaker 1: out what the hell happened? Well? Shoot, where do I start?

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Speaker 1: What did we learn? JJ? I'm starting about you? What

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Speaker 1: So what I learned about the Colts is that this offense,

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Speaker 1: We heard this team talk a lot about having a

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Speaker 1: And when I talked to Frank Reich on Monday about

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Speaker 1: said have reminded him a lot of that game back

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Speaker 1: to take away from I think that this defensive line

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a different cat. Do we need

426
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Speaker 1: to force feed him to get him the ball even

427
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: though he's not if he's not cooking in the first

428
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: or second what do you guys think? No, because I

429
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: think that you keep defenses guessing on how much you're

430
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: going to utilize him when you're going to utilize them.

431
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: I think that you don't want to make that aspect

432
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,479
Speaker 1: of it predictable because you know that establishing the run

433
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor is going to be a priority early on,

434
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: and so teams are going to know to expect that,

435
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 1: because why wouldn't you. You'd be crazy not to, right.

436
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: I think that you need to keep some you know,

437
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: mystery in these aspects of the weapons you have and

438
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: how you're going to utilize them With Nahem He's the

439
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: threat of run game and the receiving game. Jonathan Taylor

440
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: has emerged as you know, a presence also in the

441
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: passing game as well. So I think that what you

442
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: do is I kind of like that Nahem will break

443
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: out and have these like monster games. I mean, he

444
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: was the first one on the board last week getting

445
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: in the end zone for the Colts, and I just

446
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: I like the way that they mix it up and

447
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: they find that variety. I don't think that you have

448
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: to force anything with this offense, aside from making sure

449
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: Jock the Taylor gets an adequate number of touches, right Look,

450
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean it, Niheehines is going to be a part

451
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: of this offense. He's probably gonna be He's probably gonna

452
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: piss you off if you're a fantasy football player and

453
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: you want to have Nikee Mihines in your team, because

454
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: there might be a game where he goes, you know,

455
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: eight for fourteen like he did against the forty nine ers,

456
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: but then against the Jets six or seventy four of

457
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: a touchdowns. He's gonna get his this year and they're

458
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: gonna come in big moments like that. Do do not

459
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: count out niheem heinz. You know when the Colts go

460
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: to Buffalo? Are they host Tampa? Are they go to Arizona?

461
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: Are they play New England in a game that all

462
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden looks like I might have some huge

463
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: playoff applications. That guy could come up with a huge

464
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: season changing play for the Colts, even special teams included

465
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely on a punt return. Absolutely it all right, parting shots,

466
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to retent lewis here. What do you

467
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: guys think? What is it going to take? And what

468
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 1: is the final I haven't done this before with you guys,

469
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: so I'm doing it now. What are we looking at

470
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: a Sunday come about four thirty? I have no idea.

471
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly have no idea. I don't want

472
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: to give you a final score because that bad for me.

473
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Speaker 1: But I mean, look the Colts. I think, like Frank

474
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: Craik said, getting to sit back last weekend and watch

475
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Speaker 1: what happened with the Jaguars beating the Bills a game

476
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure Buffalo was just the heaviest favorite over the

477
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: weekend and to see what happened there, you gotta you

478
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that you take every opponent seriously. The

479
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars are a team to take seriously. They have talent

480
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: on that roster. Yes they may not have the record,

481
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: but they have talent. And they just beat a team

482
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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bills who a lot of people have

483
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: making the super out of them and their quarterbacks. So

484
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: the Colts are gonna be on it this week. I'm

485
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you they're gonna win the game, but

486
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Speaker 1: I think you go into this game feeling confident, just

487
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: with the way things are trending for this I'm gonna

488
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: go into the must win. I'm gonna go into It's Jacksonville.

489
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: You must every game. I mean we do this every

490
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: week on the pregame show, but literally, again, a must win.

491
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Speaker 1: You've got to beat You've got to handle business against

492
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I know that everybody's talking about him beating

493
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: up Josh Allen whatever, Urban Meyer, I don't care. You

494
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: have to take care of business. The Jets had just

495
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: beat the Bengals before they can las and we just

496
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: might Yeah, well we got We got lucky with Mike White,

497
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, a hot quarterback. Everybody's talking about going out

498
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: injured jar Luther for quite a few yards. That's true.

499
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: That's true, over three hundred to be fair. All right, guys,

500
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the roundtable, but we're gonna keep it going.

501
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: Rhet Lewis from the NFL Network. We're gonna pick his

502
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: brain about what's going on in the AFC South and

503
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: around the NFL. Rhet, it's a pleasure to have you.

504
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: I know you're a busy man surfing around this league,

505
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: keeping up with everything that's going on, and we are

506
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: going to pick your brain. But my first question to

507
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: you is, go back a few a few months, if

508
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: you will. Did you see the Colts at the position

509
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: that they're at right now after acquiring Carson Wentz, seeing

510
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: what they have in Jonathan Taylor, Michael p Min Junior.

511
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Where are you? Are you disappointed where they're at right now?

512
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: Are you a little confused? Surprised? What is it? Yeah? No,

513
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: it's a good question because I think it's a little

514
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: bit of everything. Because you know, once we saw a

515
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: first couple of days of training camp that Carson was

516
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: going to be down for a few weeks. You know,

517
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this could be a tough

518
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: early stretch of the season. If he is even able

519
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: to make it back. It turns out he was able

520
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: to make it back. And it was in fact a

521
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: tough opening stretch to the season, But they have won

522
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: three or four here, right, a couple of division wins

523
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: in there, or at least one over the Texans, right,

524
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: So I know it was a tough loss of the Titans,

525
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: but that was a game that they should have won,

526
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: and I think a game that they'll be in a

527
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: good position to really compete in, you know, the type

528
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: of game rather down the stretch. And look, here's the

529
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: thing about the AFC. Nobody's out of it right now,

530
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: all right. I mean, like the Colts are two games

531
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: out of a second place in the conference. So you know,

532
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: you got like ten teams and there were five wins,

533
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: there's four five. I feel like we're sitting pretty here.

534
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I want to ask you about,

535
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: Rhett from a national perspective. When you look at the AFC,

536
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: are there teams in that jumbled mess between I guess

537
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: you would probably say the Titans at the top, and

538
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: then I guess the Jets at thirteen. Yeah, are there

539
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: teams in there that you say, all right, that team's

540
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: five and four, but they're trending up. Are that team's

541
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: four and five and they're trending up? And are the

542
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Colts part of that discussion? Yeah, So it's a good

543
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: it's a good point. And I think there is a

544
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: line of demarcation there at twelve and thirteen in the conference,

545
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: with the Colts sitting there at four and five and

546
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: then everybody else with two wins or less. At this point,

547
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: it does feel like those bottom four you know, we're

548
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about the draft here pretty soon with

549
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: those four teams, and I don't think that's a hot take.

550
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: So with the Colts, I think they're very much in it.

551
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I think the last month teaches us that. I think

552
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: if they gets some continuity along the offensive line, you know,

553
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: in terms of injuries, who if Brandon Smith is able

554
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: to play here moving forward, I think that's huge here.

555
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: But as far as the other teams, like I feel

556
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: pretty good about Cleveland, you know, sitting there at nine,

557
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm still less sold on Denver and Cincinnati right now.

558
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: With the way that Cincinnati's played in the last couple

559
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: of weeks, like we need to see you know that

560
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: they've had their first real stretch of adversity here. So

561
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: can they figure it out and still make a push

562
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: in the AFC North with the Steelers in and the

563
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: Ravens sitting there at one and two right now in

564
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: that division. So I think right now, Indy's got a

565
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: good spot here. I mean, the Patriots are right now

566
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: the seventh seed, right they're the last team in, and

567
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: the Colts are only a game back. Like this, this

568
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: is very much still a team in the thick of

569
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: the race, at least in the wild card. I always

570
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: have to take a chance to turn it back to

571
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: a big ten tie. Because Rhutt and I are you

572
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: a little went to school together at you We we

573
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: went through our graduate program together, so we've known each

574
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: other for a very long time. So I want to

575
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: talk about the University of Wisconsin product Jonathan Taylor. He

576
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: is turning out to be the best Colts running back

577
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: since Hall of Famer Edgar and James was gracing us

578
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: in this building. How does Jonathan Taylor keep finding new

579
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: ways to put this league on notice? Right? Yeah, it's

580
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: a great point, Lara, And gosh, you just uh god,

581
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's just made my heart feel good. They're

582
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: just here and you mentioned Bloomington and for that, thank

583
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: you for that. It's been a rough go this season

584
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: for our Hoosiers. We'll get to that. But so with

585
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, I made this quote unquote declaration on Friday morning.

586
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I do a radio show on Big ten Radio and

587
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: Series Sexam, and we were talking about the Thursday night

588
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: games some of the Big Ten alums in the game.

589
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: It was like, look, it's not a secret, and Jonathan

590
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: Taylor is the best running back in football right now.

591
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Like that is that is absolutely the case in my mind.

592
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: That of course, understanding that Derrick Henry is out for

593
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: at least the next few weeks and probably till the playoffs.

594
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: So with him out, Jonathan Taylor, his burst, his combination

595
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: of strength and speed. I think he's got greater home

596
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: run threat ability than Derrick Henry and he's just as

597
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: physical as Derrick Henry. I think the one thing that

598
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: catches people by surprise still is how good of a

599
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: receiver he is because he just didn't wasn't ask to

600
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: do it that much of Wisconsin until like the very

601
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, his last season, and I think that part

602
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: of his game has been much better than advertised. And

603
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where the coltson

604
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: now have so many different ways. They've got so many

605
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: answers for opposing defenses with the different ways that they

606
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: can utilize Jonathan Taylor. All right, Rhet lewis right there.

607
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: We're talking about the AFC South right now. I want

608
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: to stick a little bit with the upcoming in game

609
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: if I can, Guys, we can go drop back two

610
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: players in a second. But I've just been as soon

611
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: as I heard we had Rhet on the show, I

612
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: wanted to get his take on this of when you

613
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: look at the Jacksonville Jaguars all the way around, are

614
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: they I mean, are they just I don't know what

615
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: the word is I'm looking for, but starting with the

616
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Urban Meyering. Yeah, but with the Urban Meyer incident, you know,

617
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: going back, I just know I'm not speaking for anyone

618
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: here at the Colts Complex whatsoever, but I just know

619
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: that if I was in position where my head coach

620
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: had that sort of thing go on, you know, not

621
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: traveling with his team, having you know, playing whatever he

622
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: was playing in the bar with whoever he was playing with,

623
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be around. And then you got to turn

624
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: the season around somehow and say, hey made a mistake guys,

625
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: but you know, still stick with me. I'm your coach.

626
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: I just I don't know who they are. What do

627
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: you think when you look at Trevor Lawrence, the overall

628
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: number one, when you look at Urban Meyer, this team

629
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: getting waxed week in and week out and then all

630
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden pulling the rabbit out of their hat

631
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: and beating Buffalo. Yeah, it's it's a real hard team.

632
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: Like to find the like water level with like what

633
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: are what are they? As a good question? Right? I

634
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: think what they are as a team with a lot

635
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: of promise and really the only team, the only the

636
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: only picture of that promise right now is Trevor Lawrence,

637
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: and we've seen get better weekend and week out. I

638
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: thought he showed some toughness. Thought he showed some real

639
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: game management skills in this last win over Buffalo to

640
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: hang on get a field goal at the end to

641
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: take the lead, And I just I think there's a

642
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: lot to feel good about from that perspective with Trevor Lawrence,

643
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, the number seven overall pick in the

644
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: nineteen draft, finally really putting it together this season. I

645
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: was listening to him talk after the game and I

646
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: was just like, man, this guy's got a real good

647
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: head on his shoulders. So I think you've got two

648
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: real good stabilizing forces on either side of the ball

649
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: with Trevor and with Josh Allen, and then some other

650
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: really good pieces in there too. It's just not enough

651
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: on either side that they don't have the juice on

652
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: offense right now. Like that's just in terms of xs

653
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: and oaths, like that's it. Like Jamal Agnew, who was

654
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: a defensive back for the Lions, is like their best

655
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: player right now and so and he's playing on offense.

656
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, they need to figure out

657
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: the way to get some juice. I know DJ Chark's

658
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: injury certainly hurt them a couple of weeks ago being

659
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: out for the year. As far as the other stuff

660
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: with urban Meyer, you know, like these are professionals, you know,

661
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: you guys see that day in and day out with

662
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: the Colts, and while you know, the situation that urban

663
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Meyer found himself in is probably not one that Frank

664
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: Wright would ever find himself, I think, yes, exactly right.

665
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: But I think that there there's enough of a galvanizing

666
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: force between players and that mentality of playing for the

667
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: guy next to you, not necessarily the guy on the sidelines.

668
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, we're in the headset. I think that's pretty strong,

669
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: and I think we take that for granted sometimes, like,

670
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, what the coach is doing? How the

671
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: heck are the players going to play? Well? You know what,

672
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: they got some pride to themselves and like they're they're

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: playing for their jobs day in and day out, week

674
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: in and week out, and they'll rally together with each

675
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: other even if it's not you know, again for the

676
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: guys that are you know, quote unquote in charge of

677
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: leading the team. I was trying to figure this out

678
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: earlier on the podcast before we brought you on, Rhett.

679
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Was this Jaguars Bills game? Was this a sign of

680
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: things to come for the Jaguars, a sign of things

681
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: to come for the Bills, or just a random blip

682
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: on an eighteen game schedule, eighteen week schedule. And it's

683
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: such a it's such a tough question because I just

684
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: we've seen better stretches from the Bills this season, and

685
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: there's just too much in their Sean McDermott is too

686
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: good of a coach. This is to this team is

687
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: too connected, like Josh Allen has put those kind of

688
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: turnovers that we saw in this game behind him. He

689
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: put that behind him in two and nineteen, and then

690
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: obviously we saw what he did last year, and I

691
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: just I think this is more of an aberration for

692
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: the Bills, and it doesn't have to mean that it's

693
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: a blot for the Jaguars that they were able to

694
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: pull the rabbit out of their hat. It could be

695
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: a building block. Could be they're starting to figure out

696
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: how to utilize their pieces and they're starting to figure out,

697
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, how to how to get some of these

698
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: pieces involved more. You know, he saw Carlos hide with

699
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: the twenty one carries me and the fumble was terrible.

700
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: But you know they want to commit to the run game. Great,

701
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: Let's continue to do that and see what this does

702
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: for us. You want to, you know, not put Trevor

703
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: Lawrence in a position where he's got to be thrown

704
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: at forty times a game and throwing two and three interceptions.

705
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: We saw that kind of work that out of his

706
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: game in the last few weeks. So I think it's

707
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: it's a building block for Jacksonville, and I think it's

708
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: more of a all right, we gotta flush this one.

709
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: If we're the Bills, we got a lot bigger fish

710
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: to fry here down the stretch of this season. Let's

711
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: figure it out. And I have a lot of confidence

712
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: that they will. I don't think we'll see Josh Allen

713
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: with many more multi interception games. Right. We saw this

714
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: Colts team come so close on two different occasions against

715
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: really good teams. Monday night game in Baltimore and then

716
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: at home just a few weeks ago against Tennessee had

717
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: double digit leads that they gave up in both. Those

718
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: are wins that you know, if you were able to

719
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: calculate those now onto the schedule, puts you in a

720
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: completely different conversation. At this point in this season, this

721
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: is a team that's still looking for one of those

722
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote signature wins. You need a win over a

723
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: winning team, over a team that's above five hundred, over

724
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: a team that was a playoff contender or in the

725
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: playoffs last season. When you look at this next month

726
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: stretch in particular for the Colts and yeah, exactly so,

727
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: how much do you need to see, you know, this

728
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: team capitalize on the opportunities that they have and really

729
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: put together, especially on the defensive side of the ball,

730
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: that complete sixty minute game and shut out a team

731
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: when you got them on the ropes down nineteen, like Baltimore,

732
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: down fourteen, like Tennessee, when you have games like the Bills,

733
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Cardinals, any of those opportunities coming up. Yeah. Look,

734
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean there are some huge games here, and I

735
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: think that that kind of killer instinct is something that

736
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: you really need. Um I think it's something that that

737
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: can emanate from a guy like Darius Leonard, right, and

738
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: I think it's part of the reason why we love

739
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: him is that that ferocity that he plays with and

740
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: and because it's also a mentality as you guys see

741
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: every day. Um So that that needs to start filtering through,

742
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: especially when you find yourselves in an advantageous position within

743
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: the framework of a game. Um as you mentioned up

744
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: fourteen uh in on the Titans, Like you can't let

745
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: that one go, Like you got to figure out a

746
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: way to get the ball back to your offense. And

747
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: as an offense at that point, you got to start

748
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: grinding some clock and you got to keep putting points

749
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: on the board. And these these let ups, these these

750
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: issues with giving up leads and then finding yourself, you know,

751
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: needing to come back at the end of regulation a

752
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: fource over time or um, you find yourself, you know,

753
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: losing at the end of regulation. You know, in one

754
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: score games like that is all too at Lee. What

755
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: will decide who makes the playoffs in the a f

756
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: C is who can win close games. And I think

757
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: they've got the leadership to figure that out. But it's

758
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: a matter of closing. It's a matter of minimizing mistakes

759
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: and key situations. It's a matter of taking care of

760
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: the football, and it's a matter of finding you know,

761
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: explosive plays like we saw him from Jonathan Taylor. Like

762
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: those plays are not just points on the scoreboard, they're

763
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: soul crushers. Like that crushes the soul of opposing teams.

764
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: And like, if you're the Jacksonville Jaguars this week and

765
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: the Colts are, you know, you're coming to Lucas Oil

766
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: take on the Colts and you're watching Jonathan Taylor break

767
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: off twenty twenty five and then like a seventy five

768
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: yard run. That's the type of stuff that goes Man,

769
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: We're in for another long day here, right, And so

770
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: like those are the type of things that you need

771
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: against teams down the stretch here, Bills, Bucks, Patriots, Cardinals, Raiders.

772
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like you've got the AFC playoffs structure on

773
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: the schedule in the next eight weeks, so they got

774
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: to figure out how to how to maximize those opportunities.

775
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Rtt Lewis from the NFL Network joins us last year,

776
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: this is a top ten defense right justin Houston out

777
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Quitty pay in. You know, they still got Darius Leonard

778
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: back there DeForrest Buckner, Kenny Moore, you know incomes Quitty

779
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: pay for justin Houston. So what is the difference from

780
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: year one to year two, Because it seems to be

781
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: like even with this Jets game we were just talking

782
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: about before he had Yon, you know, giving up thirty

783
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: points to that team at home, it's like Ruth right,

784
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback number three from the majority of the game,

785
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: and thank you for that. Yeah, it does. It does

786
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: make you kind of scratch your head a little bit

787
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of the principal impact players

788
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: still there. To me, a lot of it kind of

789
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: comes down to the back end. You know, Julian Blackman

790
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: going down certainly hurts this defense. Xavier Rhodes kind of

791
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: playing what feels like a little banged up for much

792
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: of this season. You know, Hurtster, he had a terrific

793
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: year year ago, and then just you know, Kenny Moore

794
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: obviously is terrific. But I think finding some continuity in

795
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: the back endum has been tough this year. I think

796
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: losing a you know, a running mate like Anthony Walker

797
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: for Darius Sleinard is tough. But the the thing the

798
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: thing to me is is pressure and pressure cures all

799
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: for defenses and the edge rush just it hadn't felt

800
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: like it's been there for the majority of this season.

801
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: And I know that Quitti Pay is going to be

802
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: a good player in this league, um and while he

803
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: may not be flashing as much as other rookies, you know,

804
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: like Joe Tryon with the Bucks or you know, Jalen

805
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Phillips seems to be coming on a little bit with

806
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Like yeah, he'll get there. And then you know,

807
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: I just finding that kind of pressure to wreak havoc

808
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: off the edge, I think is something that they're gonna

809
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to try to manufacture here at some point.

810
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: And so I think that has a ripple effect from

811
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: up front to the second level. To the third level,

812
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: and then, like I said, in the third level, when

813
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: you have some pieces that have kind of been in

814
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup at times, it makes things

815
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: real difficult, right. I wanted to ask you, as a

816
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, a national you know, person who works at

817
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: NFL on network, and I asked something similar to your

818
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: your coworker Colleen Wolf on our podcast last week about

819
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. But I want to ask you, what is

820
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: it going to take for the narrative to change nationally

821
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz? Because he's playing well, But it seems

822
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: like every time the Colts are in primetime or their

823
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: game is on nationally, it's like that Simpsons episode where

824
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: like Lenny and Carl are standing at the you know,

825
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: like by Homer's desk being like, hold on, he's about

826
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: to do something stupid. But Carson Wentz hasn't done that

827
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: a whole lot this year. What will it take for

828
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: the narrative to change about him? You know, I think

829
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: in certain circles it was changing, It was on its

830
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: way to changing up until the Titans game, and especially

831
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Speaker 1: at the end of that game when you throw a

832
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: couple of turnovers that a couple of picks. Um, you

833
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: were like, man, this is this is kind of like

834
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: you're like sneaky under the radar, like twenty seventeen MVP

835
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: run Carson Wentz here. You know, a guy's only thrown

836
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: a couple of picks this season, and then he goes

837
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: and hits two of them, you know, in a couple

838
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: of minutes to end that game against Tennessee, and you're like, God, shoot,

839
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: just when we just when you were bringing us back in,

840
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think time I think continuing

841
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: to take care of the football the way he had

842
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: been for much of this season, we'll go a long

843
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: way to say, let's let's say in three or four weeks,

844
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, let's say you get a couple of wins

845
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: out of that that Bill's buck stretch, and you're like, whoa,

846
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: Let's go back and look at these numbers for Carson Wentz.

847
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: These looks strangely similar to what we saw from him

848
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: when we thought he was one of the best quarterbacks

849
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: in football. I think they can get there. I think

850
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: having Frank Wright is given Carson exactly what everyone hoped

851
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: and thought he would give him, which is a little

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00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: bit of that stabilizing force a little to that familiar face,

853
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: that familiar tone, and they know each other so well.

854
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: So like I think that will continue. I think mostly

855
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: time and lack of turnovers and then pulling out a

856
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: couple of these big games in this next month or

857
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: so would go a long way to kind of ending

858
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: some of those narratives. And then the last thing, of course, availability.

859
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: He's got to be there down the stretch, and he's

860
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna be if there, if it's a playoff team, he's

861
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna be there in the playoffs. That will go a

862
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: long way, right, You mentioned hope, and it is the

863
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: dawn of a new day because it is the beginning

864
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: of the Indiana basketball under Mike Woodson. You mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: It has been a little bit of a struggle for

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00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: IU football of late oh and six in the conference.

867
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: We've lost five straights. So I'm just going to turn

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00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: my attention right to the basketball, right to the basketball

869
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: season quickly quickly. On both sides, I feel like that,

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00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, you were talking about in terms of the NFL,

871
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's about playing for the guy

872
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: next to you. But I think with IU football, it's

873
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: a lot about playing for Tom Allen because he has

874
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: created a culture down there. It seems like that this

875
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: is just a string of battle luck and this team

876
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: just having I mean the quarterback situation there being what

877
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: it is the injury front. But my heart gets broken

878
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: year after year when I think it's gonna be a

879
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: team that's gonna win a bowl game and all of that.

880
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: So your thoughts on Tom Allen Mike Woodson being the

881
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: respective right guys in Bloomington, Indiana to lead the Hoosiers

882
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: to better times than what we've experienced of late, great,

883
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: great point, l um and with they are the right guys, Tom,

884
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: for sure, and I think we're really he just dropped,

885
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: just dropped, baby, He just dropped five straight Louis. Okay,

886
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: just I know that your guy, But he did, he did,

887
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: he dropped five straight conference games. Hey, how many teams

888
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: outside of Ohio's face would be would be U kind

889
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: of themselves with a winning record on a quarterback number

890
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: three and running backs four and five, he's got a

891
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: point cornerbacks four and five of mean, my goodness, he's

892
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: got a point. We've had We've had a terrible run

893
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: of bad luck here on the injury front, and I

894
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: feel I feel horribly for Michael Pennox hopefully to talk

895
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: about him getting back into the lineup here at some

896
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: point before the end of this season. Would be great

897
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: to have him back. But here's the thing, Um, Tom

898
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: Allen has never shied away from expectations, and not once

899
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: this season has he shot away from the fact that

900
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: they have failed to live up to those expectations. But

901
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: he did it before in terms of figuring out how

902
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: to turn this program around. And this you guys are

903
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: asking about that Jaguars Bills game, like, was it a blip?

904
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: Was it that? This is a blip? This is a

905
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: thing for the Hoosiers. They're coming back next year. We're

906
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna figure things out. We've got a lot of young

907
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: players still trying to find their way. I know that

908
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: Tom can recruit better players here and then quickly on

909
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: the other side with basketball. Best recruiting job this season

910
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: by any men's basketball coach Mike Woodson getting Trace Chase

911
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Jackson Davis back to blooming And for another season. Best

912
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: player in the conference. And we're gonna see it tonight.

913
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I love it. Let's go all right, you heard we

914
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: are covered when Bloomington football and basketball. We're doing that

915
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: with Rhet Lewis from the NFL Network. Listen, folks follow

916
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Rhet NFL. That's our he double

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00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: t Rhett at Rhett NFL. Man, I appreciate it. I

918
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: got a couple more before we let you go. Who

919
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: is the most superior team in the National Football League today?

920
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: And will these Indianapolis Colts be playing in the postseason? Okay,

921
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: so the best team in football right now, it's the

922
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Sorry. Sorry, They're gonna run away with the

923
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: AFC South, but the Colt we'll stake. Yeah, Lewis and

924
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz makes a run. I don't know how many

925
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: games they're gonna win, but they're gonna win at least one.

926
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: I love I love it, Rhet Lewis. We'll have you

927
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: back weekly if you want. Man. I like this positivity everywhere.

928
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: Gotta let me tend it up here. Hey, sure appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time. Again, there's the reason is Jersey's hanging up

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: inside Nick's English. Oh look at you, man. You don't

931
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: get that by being negative towards drama model. Okay, half

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Speaker 1: the lead, half the lead, Rhet Lewis, Man, sure appreciate

933
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: the time. Keep up the great work. On the network

934
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: man and again, hope to have you back before the

935
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: postseason started. No problem, thanks guys, Thanks so much. Rhet

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00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: Lewis from the NFL Network. Right there, guys, had a

937
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: fun time with this, very fun. That's on me, Lara.

938
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: You told me too, you said, you idiot hit that

939
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: button so the folks don't hear the B B beat,

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00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: but they did. But that's what you get when I've

941
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: got you know, my hands on the ones and twos,

942
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: JJ stink. If it's any parting shots here, please rate,

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Speaker 1: review and subscribe to the Cold Audio Network wherever you

944
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: get your podcast. That is it, Lara, say something with

945
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: folks want to know before we cut out. Let's get

946
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: the dub. Let's get dub on Sunday. Let's get the

947
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: dub on Sunday. Let's get you a new fresh batch

948
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Speaker 1: of red wine that you don't break and shatter all

949
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 1: over the place. I'm just gonna if they had drizzly code,

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00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get my wine delivered my box A

951
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: boat us all right, I'm in via Drisley for Lara

952
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: over to JJ Stankovitz and Tugboat, who if he was there,

953
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: would have been slurping up that red wine. I'm Jeffrey Gorman.

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Speaker 1: We do it weekend in week Uh, that's true, and

955
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Speaker 1: a big thanks to Casey Valier who puts all this

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00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: mess together for us. Casey, sure appreciate the help. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I had fun. Let's do it again next week. This

958
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Speaker 1: is a win. I say, I don't do many guarantees,

959
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: but I'm guaranteeing this one. We are talking about a

960
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: Colts team that is ready to play football. Folks, We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week.