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Speaker 1: He is Drake Chans motherfucking podcast make si. He's a

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Speaker 1: legendary queen's rapper. He's a great as your boy in

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Speaker 1: O R E.

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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d

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Speaker 2: J e f N.

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Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and.

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Speaker 3: The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source

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Speaker 3: for drunk Chans.

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Speaker 4: Mother every day is New Year's c Listen, It's time

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Speaker 4: for drink Champions.

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Speaker 5: Drink up mother Mother?

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Speaker 1: Would it good be? How many is your boy in

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Speaker 1: O R E? What up?

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Speaker 5: His DJ e f N?

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Speaker 1: And this motherfuckering miller say yappy?

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Speaker 6: Our make some.

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Speaker 1: With me? And e f N started this show. We

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Speaker 1: always said we wanted to give to legends, people that

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Speaker 1: came before us, people that was around us, and this

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Speaker 1: didn't exist, I don't think EFN would exist. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Nori would exist. I don't think this show would exist.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of like drink Chap's godfather. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if he knows this. He's the man's man DJ.

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Speaker 1: When I tried to Google, how many times his name

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Speaker 1: was said on our show, And I think it got

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Speaker 1: to be close to like three hundred times people were

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Speaker 1: just saying hip hop, and when it was invented, he

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Speaker 1: even considered hip hop at that time. I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: make sure that he understands how important and how much

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Speaker 1: of a legend he is, because, like I said, not

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Speaker 1: only me and EFN probably wouldn't be here together as

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Speaker 1: friends if it was for him. But guess what, guys,

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Speaker 1: everyone around here might not be here. No, not you,

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Speaker 1: especially not you. So in case you don't know who

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Speaker 1: the fuck we're talking about, motherfucking I want to get

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Speaker 1: straight into it. I'm not even gonna like the bad

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Speaker 1: day off immediately. I am a proud Latino. I am

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Speaker 1: a proud Puerto Rican.

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Speaker 5: I know you are, and.

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Speaker 1: I heard said I was watching you on the interviews,

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Speaker 1: and and by the way, leading up to this, everyone

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Speaker 1: always they always say, man, you gotta you gotta get

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Speaker 1: Charlie up here. You gotta have Charlie up here. But me,

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Speaker 1: and this is a question, this is kind a pure curiosity.

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Speaker 1: How the fuck did you do what you're doing? Like,

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Speaker 1: because like I was so I was so happy, you know,

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Speaker 1: researching everything about you. But I guess what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna do this? So what I'm asking you

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Speaker 1: You had a doubt that this music will go that far?

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Speaker 6: Remember listen, people try to put a date on a

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Speaker 6: For example, hip hop was a culture that was already

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Speaker 5: The parties gave us a place to meet up where

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Speaker 6: Now people of my life community can actually see meet up,

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Speaker 6: see how how we were, how we were doing, and

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Speaker 6: right then and there we'd see what you were wearing

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Speaker 6: It happened the way it happened because it was brand

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Speaker 6: So I started then into seventy six, and that's when

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Speaker 1: This morning, I was researching, just doing more and more

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Speaker 1: this jungle bunny music? Like I literally, like I literally

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Because there's no blueprint to what you did.

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Speaker 1: Like you are Fat Joe's blueprint. You are big Punts blueprint.

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Speaker 1: You are my blueprint, but you had no blueprint.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know it's funny that you say that because

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Speaker 6: your segment, but you just said to me. I said

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Speaker 6: to answer your question right, I didn't give a fuck

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Speaker 6: be honest with you, the people from my age weren't

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Speaker 5: I was feeling it. Plus I was getting mad attention

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Speaker 1: about the Moderate crew. What is it? Monterrey crew, the

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Speaker 1: Monterrey projects right.

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Speaker 6: Right, It was a project that was around the corner

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Speaker 6: And I when I started picking their brain, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: When I seen the crowd appreciating it and dancing to him,

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Speaker 1: And you know, so, let me ask you because when

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know he was on the show. Flash

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Speaker 5: He perfected in seventy six, he tells me.

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Speaker 6: Seventy six or so, seventy five seventy six, that's when

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Speaker 6: he started doing it. In seventy six, seventy seven was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was born seventy seven, that's right.

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Speaker 5: So that's when I caught my eye on Flash.

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Speaker 6: It was around seventy. No, I didn't want a boat

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Speaker 6: him because fat, I was. Flash was bigger than that

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Speaker 9: Whene was when he hit that record the ground and.

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Speaker 6: I was like, this, motherfucker's cool.

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Speaker 6: So Flash, when I seen him doing what he was doing,

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Speaker 6: I said to myself, Yo, I know some of these

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Speaker 6: What you've seen in Kingwood, I was seeing Flash.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: Listen, they tell you Latinos created hip hop. That's not true.

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Speaker 6: Well, we there to help develop it in the evolution. Absolutely,

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Speaker 6: nobody can step that.

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Speaker 1: Away from that.

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Speaker 5: You can deny it as much as you want.

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Speaker 6: But back in the Bronx, as much as people talk

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Speaker 6: We understand. We had each other's back. We knew that

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Speaker 6: we like ground Messling cast says, we knew we all

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Speaker 3: You understand, there was a lot of Latinos that that

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Speaker 6: Do you know how many friends I knew that I

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Speaker 6: I'm like, you're Spanish, he speak Spanish? Like oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: you didn't know? No, Yeah, So that that was how

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Speaker 6: so flash was was the reason that I gave myself

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, what am I?

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Speaker 6: You know, I came up with all kind of stupid

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Speaker 5: Yes, I forgot some of you. But what that was

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Speaker 6: Right And I'm seeing myself, damn, you know if I'm

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Speaker 6: I always knew that if I whatever I put my

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Speaker 1: Sooner or later I'm going to meet for Flash.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know what to call myself.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: There was a television show on TV at the time

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Speaker 5: And when I saw that.

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Speaker 6: That was when I said, that's Tony Chase right there.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm chasing Flash. Flash was ahead of me.

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Speaker 5: I told Flash this, Flash, I said, I'm chasing grand

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Speaker 6: I said, that's the name. Well, corse Man, you know

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Speaker 6: now in that time once once you know, I got Tony.

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Speaker 6: Tony is the reason why I really was thrust it

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Speaker 6: into that because I was I was known in my neighborhood,

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Speaker 6: I was. I didn't actually get out until I met Tony.

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Speaker 6: Tony he was the one that was who was already

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Speaker 6: all these people, and he introduced me to them. So

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Speaker 6: that's all. I was basically thrown into into the pocket

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Speaker 6: the culture was thriving, you know.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you, right, I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: Pun was like my best friend, right. I loved I

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Speaker 1: loved Fun so much, but I remember him always being

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Speaker 1: a Latino cheer. But it's it's who deal with, right

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Speaker 1: Some some some people will say, you know, like where's Diego?

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Speaker 1: Diego was was whoopy? And we were googling New York

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Speaker 1: Riecans right, New yor Ricans right.

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Speaker 6: And.

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Speaker 1: We all came up. I'll say, oh, ship, I forgot

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Speaker 1: part of the community, right. But let me get back

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Speaker 1: to what I was trying to say. I remember Pun

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Speaker 6: For Puerto Rican, for Puerto Rican. I got that shit

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Speaker 6: a lot, Pun talking.

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Speaker 1: This mother falk And then I started to realize, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: that telling that about me. They're like, Laurie's nice for

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Speaker 1: a Puerto Rican? Is that something that I know you

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Speaker 1: just said it, but I want to ask it and

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Speaker 1: re iterating you had to do it this way longer

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Speaker 1: than me. So how does how did that feel like?

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Speaker 1: Hearing that, to be honest with you, didn't affect me.

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Speaker 1: You want to know why because I didn't know any better.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't into it. I didn't feel like it was

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Speaker 6: I didn't feel anything because I didn't feel racism at

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Speaker 5: I wasn't raised that way or to think that way.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know what that was.

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Speaker 6: Or how severe. I wasn't exposed to the severity of

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Speaker 6: that's coming from the black community. Yo, that's a compliments.

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Speaker 6: That's showing that's showing me that I'm doing something right.

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Speaker 5: So I never really took offense to it.

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Speaker 6: Never did, you know, But to say about Big Pun,

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Speaker 6: I met him one time, get out of here.

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Speaker 5: One time I was playing at Jimmy's Bronx Cafe.

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Speaker 1: Goddamn, it was like smell Jimmy's bos cafe.

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Speaker 5: And he said it was a Tuesday night.

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Speaker 6: And somebody says, Yo, Pun is here, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: oh wait a minute, I said, yo, take over.

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Speaker 5: I got to speak to one. I want to meet him.

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Speaker 5: I see he's sitting there with one other cat right,

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Speaker 5: He's sitting at the table. He's eating.

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Speaker 6: So I'm like, damn, I don't want to disturb I said,

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Speaker 6: I'm doing. So I go over him very politely. I said,

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Speaker 6: excuse me, sir, I said, Pun, excuse me, and he's annoyed,

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Speaker 6: like general life. You got to look like what the

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Speaker 6: fuck you are? You know? And I said, I said, listen,

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Speaker 6: I know we don't know each other. I don't mean

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Speaker 6: to introduce myself to you. I said, my name is

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Speaker 6: DJ Charlie Chase the Cold. Because he loans up.

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Speaker 5: Of course, he got up.

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Speaker 6: He got up, he threw his arms around me.

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Speaker 5: He hugged me, said you don't understand. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: He was thanking me, giving me all kind of accolades

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Speaker 6: that I'm proud of what you're doing the way you

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Speaker 6: did you hear this?

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Speaker 5: He says, He t me, you don't.

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Speaker 6: Understanding exactly what that we spoke for fifteen minutes or

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Speaker 6: good to hear that coming from somebody at that point.

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00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 6: He was already successful, you understand. And and to hear

440
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 6: that from him, you know, I to hear it from

441
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 6: you when when you're when you start getting my age,

442
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 6: and you hear people giving you, perhaps with younger people

443
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 6: who are successful, you say your So that's that's at

444
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 6: least for me, that he's a good impres makes me

445
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 6: feel good because damn that ship, you know, I still

446
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 6: got a little gas in the.

447
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: Tank, right, legacy right, So it makes me feel good.

448
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 6: So pun made me feel good when he said that,

449
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 6: you know, and and and and I and I really

450
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 6: felt good meeting him. And I think his reaction was

451
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 6: really was was my reward? You know what I'm saying,

452
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 6: It was my reward.

453
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something, and I want to

454
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: reiterate it. I said it earlier. I'm gonna say it again. Literally,

455
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you and your relentlessness from what

456
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: you did, I don't think drink Champs would exist. This

457
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: is a real talk. This is real talk. I mean

458
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: this is He's one of the most stubborn persons I

459
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: know and I am too in a different way. Well,

460
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: our love for each other is hip hop. And if

461
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't for you and what you did, the legacy

462
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: that you laid out prior to us, you actually drink

463
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: Champs father bro show, it's giving people with the flowers

464
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: our show, and we wanted to give you your flowers

465
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: face to face. Man. Yeah, yeah, well man, thank you.

466
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: No, man, this is dope.

467
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: And so let's let's let's talk about they're trying to

468
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: rename the Porto Rican Parade after you.

469
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 5: No, no, okay, okay.

470
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 6: This year they called I thought I was being punked

471
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 6: at first.

472
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

473
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 6: They called me up and said, listen, you know, we

474
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 6: see the way, we know that you've been doing this

475
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 6: and the person actually the directing I was a friend

476
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 6: of mine who I grew up with as kids. We

477
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 6: used to work. You've care in New York City, whatever

478
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: job call or you've called you called when you had

479
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 6: the jobs and stuff. Lillian Rodriguez, she's now the chairman

480
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 6: of the place. So I've known million for years. We

481
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 6: grew up in the same clique, same friends. We don't

482
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 6: like family.

483
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

484
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 6: And she called me up and she said, Chase, you know,

485
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 6: you know, we know, I know you from an years.

486
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 6: I feel that you've never gotten your flowers, she says,

487
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 6: I see.

488
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 1: She says you can get your flowers first.

489
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 6: So she said, you know you never got your flowers

490
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 6: and and and she says, you've.

491
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 5: You've done so much, You've upped it, uplifted.

492
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 6: The Hispanic community so much that I just want to

493
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 6: ask you if you if you would like to be

494
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty four Puerto Rican they ambassador.

495
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 5: Oh that's incredible. And then I said, stop sucking with me, Lilily,

496
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: But she says no, no, straight up. And I was like,

497
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: are you first? She said yeah. I'm like I was.

498
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 5: I was speechless.

499
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 6: I always got some and I was like, yeah, I

500
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 6: said yes, I'll do it, you know, are you kidding me?

501
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, this comes full circle for me as much

502
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 5: as I'm four. So I'm the ambassador.

503
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 6: Now there's a few other honies like Lisa, Lisa Well,

504
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 6: I can't speak. I shouldn't be. She's mad, She's parade

505
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 6: are there are few other people like I'm not going

506
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 6: to stay.

507
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 5: Because I want to let them, allow them just.

508
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: To I don't know.

509
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, So this year I'm going to be there.

510
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 6: They're they're having this big banquet at the Plaza Hotel

511
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 6: and all the Armies honor on Friday Saturday.

512
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 5: Of course it's one hundred sixteenth Street.

513
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 6: We're gonna be up there hanging out great a Sunday

514
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 6: and then I'm throwing well, they're throwing me a big

515
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 6: after party from the parade in my honor, and they

516
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 6: invite them all kind of people, celebrity kind of stuff. Man.

517
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 6: So for that, man, So if you in town, made

518
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 6: you guys are more than work on the come Brouck.

519
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm coming just for you, yeah, man.

520
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 5: So that's that's a big honor for me.

521
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 6: It's a hugere you know, the acceptance that you feel

522
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 6: coming from something like that.

523
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 5: I mean the parade is.

524
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 6: Look, it's the biggest parade besides besides the West Indon

525
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 6: Parade in Brooklyn. That's the biggest parade, Bigger than the

526
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 6: Thanks Every parade, Bigger than.

527
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 5: The Saint Patrick's. They parade bigger.

528
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 6: Three million people in attenders, five million people watching on TV.

529
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 5: Come on, man, how could you not?

530
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: Honestly, you should have had You should have gotten this

531
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: on her a long time ago.

532
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: You know what.

533
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 6: I've never been the type to feel like I would

534
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 6: be mad because of something I didn't get. You Ever

535
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 6: see somebody who wins prizes and like, damn, I got

536
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 6: one hundred dollars, I should have got this that it's

537
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 6: not me. I'll bend yo, thank you. You know That's

538
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 6: how I feel about it. Didn't it didn't get it before.

539
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: That's cool.

540
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 6: I'm not worried about what I didn't get. I'm really

541
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 6: appreciateive on what I'm getting while I'm still alive.

542
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: I want to tell you a story real quick. My

543
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: father made me go to every Puerto Rican Day parade.

544
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Right and by the way, my father's a foul god.

545
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: He made me sell beers too. I was the little kid. Hey,

546
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: back then, it was in foul to sell beers. He

547
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: told me, damn all right, calm down his what's crazy?

548
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: But Joe always remembers. He's like, you know, the first

549
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: day I met you was at the Puerto Rican Day parade.

550
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: If I had l A l A and Fat Joe

551
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: seeing me, and no one wanted wanted me on their float. No,

552
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: I was like, who the fuck is this guy?

553
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 6: Right?

554
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: And Fat Joe was like Puerto Rican Right, He's like,

555
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: get your ass up here, and he move me on

556
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: the float. And for anybody if you're a Puerto Rican,

557
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing, even if you're not Puerto Rican,

558
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: to see that energy of the city. They shut down

559
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: Madison what is it? Madison Avenue? Fifth Avenue. Fifth Avenue

560
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: is one of the other that's dope. I've been able

561
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: to walk the parade. You walked the parade when Pun

562
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: passed away.

563
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: I was working for Echo and Loud Music and they

564
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: asked my team down south to come up there. They

565
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: flew us out and they had us walk the break

566
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: of Fat Joe jah Remy was on the on the

567
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: floor and they had us.

568
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: Our team was passing out these pun.

569
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: Towels, but they were playing one hundred percent for the

570
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: first time for everybody. And the chill that Super Puerto

571
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: Rican the chills when that was playing. He had just

572
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: passed away. It was it was crazy, man, but it

573
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: was the praise was dope.

574
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: I love I love so I'm so honored that you

575
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: being honored, because that's me being honored. I'm sharing it

576
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: with you.

577
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm just doing I'm so, I am so pro Puerto Rican,

578
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 6: I am so I'm gonna show you something real quick.

579
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: I'm so free, I'm so proud.

580
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 6: I'm so proud that everywhere I've played on the entire planet,

581
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 6: I've taken these with me. Now, this was a gift

582
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 6: given to me by my boy, DJ non Stop, who

583
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 6: was the DJ for K seven and the Swing Kids,

584
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 6: and then he was a DJ for d m X.

585
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 6: He was DMX. He gave I went to Chicago to

586
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: DJ for the rock Steady Crew and he gave me.

587
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: These as a gift.

588
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 6: Wow, he gave me these as a gift right here,

589
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 6: and I take them everywhere on the planet. I rock.

590
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: Everywhere on the planet that I rocked.

591
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: These babies playing with me because I'm proud of my heritage,

592
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: I'm proud of well being Puerto Rican and I show

593
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: this to everybody.

594
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: I don't problem with that, you know.

595
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. My my two closest Latino

596
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: friends as e Fan and fad Joe, right, and they did.

597
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: They didn't like when I started reggae, though.

598
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 10: I saw that the documentary reasons, they had any reasons,

599
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 10: but me personally, I discovered reggae throw in Puerto Rico.

600
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 1: I went to Puerto Rico and I was like, what

601
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: the fuck is this ship? I thought it was I

602
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: called it Latin reggae. So then I went to club Roombos.

603
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: Room Boxs used to be Club Fever. I remember that

604
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: Club Fever. Let's just every jon I don't know Io promoted.

605
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: You probably don't know what I mean, so I would

606
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: go there. But let me ask you because you're the original,

607
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: You're a part of the original hip hop, right, Like,

608
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: were you offended when you first heard reggaeton or was

609
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: this something like?

610
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: No?

611
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: How did you feel?

612
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 6: Like?

613
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 11: No?

614
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I want to ask you.

615
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 6: I'm a lover of music, to be honest with you.

616
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 6: At first I thought it was reggae because it had

617
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 6: that vibe.

618
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: I felt it was latinos trying to impersonate a patois

619
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: in Spanish and.

620
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 5: I did it right. He did it right.

621
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: But when.

622
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: I went to Puerto Rico early on too, and I

623
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: heard it over there, and I was like, I don't

624
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: know about this, guys, you know, say like, because we

625
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: were here trying to make sure we maintained our respect

626
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: as latinos and hip hop lyricism and all this stuff,

627
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: and then I'm hearing this and I'm like, I don't

628
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: know how this is going to play over here. It

629
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: sounds like Latino's trying to do this, you know, patoa

630
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: and faking it. But then here later on though, after

631
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: he did what he did, which revolutionized everything, and just

632
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: moving forward. Now the evolution of reggaeton has gotten the

633
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: genre has just they've really gotten creative and I have

634
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: a total different respect for it.

635
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: But back then I wasn't respecting.

636
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: So what was your first I want to know you.

637
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 6: At first, I thought it was reggae thron right, That's

638
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 6: what I mean. I'm sorry, reggae music, right, And it

639
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 6: was cool, and I'm like, and being there I had

640
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 6: already heard it, was like, okay, it's cool, and it wasn't.

641
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 6: It did strike me as anything new, but I started

642
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 6: noticing that it started sounding a little bit more, it

643
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: started creating a more cohesive sound of its own, right,

644
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, I'm starting I'm starting to notice it.

645
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: It didn't bother me. I kind of enjoyed it at first.

646
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: What really bothered me more anybody.

647
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 6: It was more like the style, the way they were

648
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 6: just like, yo, get.

649
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Out of the eighties, you like, you know, the same

650
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: what is it? Well?

651
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: The beats?

652
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, always sounded like a jack the murdercing beast,

653
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: same beast, right, But I remember.

654
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 6: I got it when it came out. Also was much faster.

655
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 6: It was a much faster temple, so it was very

656
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 6: dazable and stuff. And I enjoyed it.

657
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: I really didn't. I wasn't hating on it or anything,

658
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 5: you know.

659
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 6: And then of course later on, you know, when they

660
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 6: get thrown did like normal Puerto Ricans do when people

661
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 6: criticize them.

662
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 5: Fuck, we're doing what we doing, you know what I'm saying.

663
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: But when I saw what you did, and when I

664
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 6: saw the documentary you were telling me what happened, I

665
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 6: was like, whoa, that's crazy. And I didn't know that

666
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 6: you were the I mean, I remember the record I

667
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 6: remember the saw when you brought it wood equalmo in right,

668
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 6: But when I saw the documentary, I didn't realize.

669
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: That that was the soul, that was the game change,

670
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 5: that was.

671
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: The one that I put my own car on the line. People.

672
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: You did because yo, we could be we could be critical.

673
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 6: Of ourselves over here.

674
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I received so much slack

675
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: from the black community. I mean, I'm black and lat

676
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm gonna say it straight up. Black

677
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: people were looking like, well stay Porto Rican and I

678
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: was like, I've been port rinking my whole life, Like

679
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: why would you? Why got state Puerto Rican? Now they're like,

680
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: stick with racing peas. Yeah, I'm like Jesus, I like,

681
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: I like jerk chicken too to do it on the

682
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: cone whissel, you know what I mean.

683
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: But let me ask you a question, right, okay, because

684
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 6: let's go growing up. Like like I had said earlier,

685
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 6: there were blacks. There were people got my black friends

686
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: right who were Hispanic and then never told me did

687
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 6: you ever feel that you needed like no moments And

688
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 6: I'm not judging or anything, but did you ever feel

689
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 6: like at some point like sometimes you couldn't say yeah,

690
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 6: I'm Hispanic because you were afraid that if you expose yourself,

691
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 6: they were going to look at you differently.

692
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: My father was the Puerto Rican with the tail, fifteen

693
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: thousand tattoos, earrings, he wore new ports under his shit.

694
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: He played handball all day like he was the super

695
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: super Puerto Rican, right Like he was like, if you

696
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: looked up Puerto Rican, my father's dead like this, right,

697
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I he installed to

698
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: be the proudest Puerto Rican ever. And then my mother

699
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: was like kind of like the opposite of She was

700
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: like afrocentric. So it was just like, all right, cool,

701
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't choose. Like I called myself. It's

702
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: a wrong word now to say it, but I called

703
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: myself Nigga Egan my whole life, I'm Ningo Rekan. They're like,

704
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: what's your race? Ningoregan, Like like you're not supposed to

705
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: say that, right, But I've always been been that. And

706
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: then I met uh, my brother, my brother's mother, my

707
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: brother Cookie not Mario, my brother, my older brother who

708
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know in my childhood, and she was more

709
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: Afrocentric than any black person in the world. She proved

710
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: to me that she was affle Latina, that's what you

711
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: call it. Yeah, but she proved to me that Puerto

712
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: Ricans are black and black people are it's the same.

713
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: Latino culture for the most part, is African culture, like

714
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: the food, the music.

715
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: And shortly.

716
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 5: I never deny that.

717
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 6: When you ever see people that get in an argument

718
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: like so as, I would get into and argument with

719
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 6: my black friends either like you're black and I'm like,

720
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 6: you're fucking right with you. I know about roots, you know,

721
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 6: I know my roots. What the fuck I mean?

722
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: I'm looking, but I understand.

723
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

724
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, But by the way, how dope is hip hop?

725
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: Because you know hip hop? Hip hop is smart. Yeah,

726
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: if you listened, I know some dumb motherfuckers out there.

727
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: We ain't talking about the dumb motherfuckers. We're talking about

728
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: the smart motherfuckers. But yes, I liked what you said earlier.

729
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: You was like, Yo, I'm a proud Puerto Weecan. And

730
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: one thing that I knew about being proud to be

731
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: something that doesn't mean you anti anything else. You could

732
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: be pro Porto Weecan without being anti anything. Absolutely, I

733
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: am pro black, but I'm not anti white, right, I'm

734
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: pro perto weecan, but I'm not anti Cuban.

735
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 5: Well sometimes you talk.

736
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: You're talking about but so what I'm trying to say

737
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: is so many people be offended sometimes. But again, let's

738
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: let's just have a quick time with slive.

739
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: Let's do it.

740
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Let's go do Before we go on this point, we

741
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: always have to ask ourselves who benefits off the division?

742
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 3: Because this is the thing that I always think about.

743
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: Early hip hop was was a mix. You know, it

744
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: was it was everybody was there if you were living

745
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: under those conditions that hip white people. I mean, you

746
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: could tell me you can come.

747
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 6: Literally, Italy was just three literally, that's this, It's just

748
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 6: three blocks away.

749
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: So fast forward, hip hop becomes this humongous commodity, this

750
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: this money making machine. Then it's picked up by the

751
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: music industry, which discards what doesn't make money musically, the

752
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: other stuff in hip hop, the important stuff in hip hop,

753
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: and starts to make money off of it. Then all

754
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: this division, like who profits off of the division? And

755
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: to say you're not a part of it, You're not

756
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 3: a part of it. You didn't do this, you didn't

757
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: do that, And that's what we should all think about

758
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: at the end of the day.

759
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: Because it's like what you were saying when I was

760
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: watching in the interviews, you was going through the same

761
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: thing that I was going through. You there's people coming

762
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: up to you saying, why are you playing this this

763
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: jungle music? They call it jungle bunny, jingle bunny music,

764
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: jungle money music. So I imagine you dealt with this

765
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: way more than me and EFN.

766
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you deal with nobody understood it was.

767
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 6: It wasn't what it is now that it was just

768
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 6: something the only that the young community knew about and understood.

769
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: But imagine how dangerous the older generation wasn't accepting of it.

770
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 3: But now you have this young generation that's uniting under

771
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: this culture. How powerful is that become? And how scary

772
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: to whatever powers that be. Not to get into conspiracy,

773
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, like you divide and conquer, you

774
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: can you can monetize it. You can divide these people

775
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: and say you're not a part of it. The DJ

776
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: is no longer important, the B boy and the B

777
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: girls are no longer important. Your Fitty's not a part

778
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: of this. Only the rappers and you know all that

779
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: different stuff. You know, this is a long thing. We

780
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: can get into but it's something to think about.

781
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 5: But that's not where the real danger comes to the division.

782
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: And you don't have to worry.

783
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 6: About outside the outside sources. It's the internal division that's

784
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 6: where the problem is. That's the danger stuff here. And

785
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 6: I always say, why, first of all, rich, rich, real

786
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 6: wealthy white millionaires. They ain't fighting and they ain't mad.

787
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 6: So why do we have angry Puerto Rican and black millionaires?

788
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: Why are you all angry billionaires?

789
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: But you got to be bad about right.

790
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 6: And the other thing is that you know, if if

791
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 6: you really want to make the change, why don't we

792
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: talk about the real issues here instead of fighting each

793
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 6: other and trying to create division within us.

794
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 5: And I don't really engage in device of conversations. I'm

795
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 5: not giving you.

796
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 6: A platform for you to to to try to create

797
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: more division. I mean, we got more import these like

798
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 6: for example, why didn't we coin the phrase hip hop?

799
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: Why is why are other people trying to register the

800
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: name and that we coin? Why didn't Why didn't we

801
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 5: do that?

802
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 6: Why is it that we don't have more Latino and

803
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 6: black owned businesses within the industry. Let's talk about that,

804
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? Why is it that we

805
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 6: don't own hip hop. Everybody else is trying to own

806
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 6: hip hop. I'll give you an example. Look at all

807
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: these shows that are coming up. They have the titles

808
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 6: hip hop in it. They're only they only have the

809
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 6: title hip hop in it because they know that that's.

810
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: What's going to exactly. That word is powerful.

811
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 6: Right, how many how many mcs did you see on shows?

812
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: Right now? When you see this show, it's nothing but

813
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 6: hip it ain't it is not really hip hop when

814
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: you take away the turntables from the stage. Right, those

815
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: are the real issues that we should be focusing on.

816
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 6: These are the things that we need to come together

817
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 6: with to help create more well wealth and more businesses

818
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 6: for people.

819
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 5: We own that.

820
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 6: That's our We've sacrificed a lot for that. So why

821
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 6: are we fighting against each other. I'm not with that, man,

822
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 6: and don't. I don't give it a platform. I don't

823
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: give it any credence. I don't I stay away from

824
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 6: all of that. Man. You know how many times they

825
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: try to Obviously people make it negative comments on I don't

826
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 6: even respond. I'm like, you don't even exist, But just

827
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: you know, move move on.

828
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: I want one of Charlie Chase shirts.

829
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: I'm glad you said, can you give me the bad?

830
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 11: Yes, I.

831
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: Got you, I got you that she looks so good

832
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: and you got the Puerto Rican thing on to turn

833
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: to my slip map. I'm sorry if and if he

834
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: only has the one, I'm taking it.

835
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

836
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 6: Actually actually texting, I was like, okay, okay.

837
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play a game on our show. It's

838
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: called Quick Time with Slo Guys. Can you can you

839
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: explain this rules? Like how poor explaining? You never explained it.

840
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you two choices. This is our drinking game,

841
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: by the way.

842
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 6: Okay, I've seen it. You're notorious with this.

843
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: So you you know you get two choices. You pick

844
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: one you don't drink, We don't drink. I'm give you

845
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: the second prob one you don't. If you say both,

846
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: you say you don't want to choose like you say both.

847
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 6: Flash this Scram Joe's Up Dirt interview.

848
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 5: He was better than.

849
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 6: Wait so month.

850
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: By the way, Scram was a joy too. Was gonna

851
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: throw but at the beginning he loved he loved it. Okay,

852
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: so we're gonna start. Okay, all right, you got the

853
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: first one by the way. I just want you to

854
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: know me and E f N do not make these questions.

855
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: The Columbia, we got the United Nations. We have every

856
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: race here, so you know, but this is a fucking

857
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: great question. I don't know which one of them came

858
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: up with this one. Cool Heirk oh Graandmaster Flash.

859
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you why.

860
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: Okay, please cool herk okay.

861
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: He saved my life one day, physically physically saved.

862
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: We need to hear it, all right.

863
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 6: We were having the thirty ninth, thirty eight, thirty ninth.

864
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: Anniversary of the Cold Crush Brothers.

865
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

866
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: We had a downtown on Canal Street. The opening app

867
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: was the Roots and they weren't even known yet. There

868
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 6: weren't no Roots, said the Roots. They were the opening app.

869
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 6: We didn't know them. I get there now. Throughout the

870
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: day I was not feeling well. I was in in

871
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 6: these pains.

872
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 5: So I get there. I'm on the Sage was setting

873
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 5: up the equipment.

874
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 6: I'm feeling worse now by this time it's evening, I'm

875
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: feeling worse. I saw Questlove behind me setting up. You know,

876
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 6: we introduced ourselves and everything, and I got I got

877
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: really sick and I went to the back of the

878
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 6: green room. Right and back there was DST Cool Herk.

879
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 6: There were a lot of I mean for our anniversary,

880
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 6: A lot of people showed up, so they were The

881
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 6: room was filled with a lot of celebrities and stuff.

882
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 6: Right at this point, I'm on the sofa, bent over

883
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 6: and pain. I'm in pain and pain. Wow, and and

884
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 6: DST says what's wrong with him? And somebody say, I

885
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: don't know, man, he's in pain right now. And and

886
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 6: and tone was like, yo, you think you're gonna be

887
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: able to go on? I said, I want you, but

888
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 6: I can't. I'm listening too much pain. And he says, yo,

889
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 6: we need to rush him.

890
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: To the hospital.

891
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 6: Herk threw me in his car, drove me lightning speed

892
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 6: all the way up to the Bronx.

893
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: To mart.

894
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: Because I said, I didn't want to go to this

895
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 6: hospital in Manhattan. I want to be by my house, okay,

896
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 6: So he drove me all the way to Martha Field.

897
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 6: He dropped me off for the emergency room. I get there,

898
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 6: I'm bent the room pain. The doctor comes over and

899
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 6: examines me. Thirty seconds later, we got to take him

900
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: to the emergency room. It's his appendix and it might rupture.

901
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 6: They had to run me in After that, the doctor

902
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 6: told me, you're look at you. He says, maybe another

903
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 6: hour so you wouldn't be talking to me.

904
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: So Herk respect to her, fut, that's my brother, man.

905
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 5: He saved my life.

906
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 6: Everybody else was your concerned, no doubt, but Herk was like, fuck.

907
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 6: He threw me in a car and he took me

908
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 6: all the way up to.

909
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: The hospital to be asking you something because we had

910
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Legs up here. And this is the first time I ever,

911
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: ever ever heard anybody say this. Crazy Legs was kind

912
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: of like, Hirk wasn't the first person to play hip hop?

913
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if he said to play hip hop, but.

914
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: He kind of like he says that he says that

915
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 3: party wasn't necessarily the date, which he kind of said

916
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: in the beginning, wasn't the date that started hip hop

917
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 3: necessarily right?

918
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: And I thought I was going to receive three thousand,

919
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: five hundred four million calls what the fuck? And I

920
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: want to be honest, Charley Chase, I didn't get that

921
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: one phone call right. Not one person said Crazy Legs

922
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: is lying.

923
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, nobody did you.

924
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: This is our first time we've been talking about, right.

925
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 5: I thought it was gonna we were gonna get I.

926
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: Thought I was going to be whose he was gone,

927
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: and I think, to be exactly said the party is

928
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 4: terms of the day, and that there was other DJs

929
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: around that before he was saying what he was doing already.

930
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 5: That's what he kind of more or less said.

931
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: I definitely need your opinion on that.

932
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: Well, Okay, it all depends.

933
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 6: I guess everybody understood the context that Crazy Legs was

934
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: putting it in, right, Okay, I can get that. I

935
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: can kind of see where he's coming from for that,

936
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 6: because there are questions not taking anyway and anything away

937
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 6: from her because he did what he did when he started,

938
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 6: and that's the point that everybody knows that. Everybody.

939
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 5: It's like it's like a record comes out.

940
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 6: Everybody knows the popular version, but nobody really heard the

941
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 6: joint underground version. Right. So I wasn't there. I don't know,

942
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 6: but I know people that were there. If I wish

943
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 6: my business partner was here because he knows he can

944
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 6: speak to this. When the gangs were fighting and Bambarda

945
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: was the one who younfied the gangs, right, he was

946
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 6: playing music for them at the time he was, he

947
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 6: was ready in detaining them doing this and this is

948
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 6: pre pre uh uh cool Herk, right, So I don't know,

949
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 6: but I think that's what maybe Crazy Legs might be

950
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 6: referring to.

951
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 5: And I've heard these things. So it's really hard.

952
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 6: That's why I said earlier, it's really hard to put

953
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 6: a start date on anything because the culture was always there.

954
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: So wait, so I respect based on what you're saying.

955
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: So would it be that someone could could say Van

956
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: Boda would have been that figure that we're giving to

957
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: cool Herk.

958
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 6: It could have been. It could have been, but you'd

959
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 6: have to I guess Crazy Legs would have to elaborate

960
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 6: more on that. I can't. I can't really speak on

961
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 6: it because I only hear things and I can't without

962
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: more information. I can't make an educational decision on that,

963
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But it isn't It's an

964
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 6: interesting point, you know, And and again, I mean, the

965
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: culture was already bubbling up before before Herk was. People

966
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 6: were already dressing the way they were dressing and doing

967
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 6: what they weren You can't take nothing away from Herk

968
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 6: Herku is Herky did what he did, you know, everybody.

969
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 6: He had to hear the HERCULEOICD sound system. Bigger than Life.

970
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 6: They called him Hurt because he was bigger than life.

971
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 6: But you know, when I met her, he was a

972
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 6: big dude. I mean, you know, you can't take anything

973
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: away from Hurt, but you can't take anything from bad

974
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 6: Body either.

975
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: The last time you smoke a Blunt's I wanted to see.

976
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to see if you before four Years did you.

977
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if you were in the movie, or

978
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: have you watched rerubble Kings. I think I might have.

979
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 5: I'm not sure it sounds familiar.

980
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I just I wanted to know if you did,

981
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: because I actually I didn't.

982
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back and watch because I.

983
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 3: Tell people people ask me, you know, they want to

984
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: know more about the history of hip hop, and I

985
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 3: feel like that dog because it predates, it goes before

986
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: hip hop. It's like talking about the Bronx and New

987
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: York in that era in the in the late sixties,

988
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: and it goes slowly into hip hop. I wanted to

989
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: see if you thought that was a good film, to

990
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: kind of like explain.

991
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even see that.

992
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 5: It's a great movie. Rebel, Rubble rubble Kings, the Rumble Kings.

993
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I was it Rumble or rubbles Rubble Is

994
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 6: it Rubble rubble Kings, Rubble Kings. I saw it, and

995
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 6: I don't remember a lot of it, man, because it

996
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: was a while.

997
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: Because I talked about that that that funk band, I

998
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: think the.

999
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 6: Gangs and and yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, Okay.

1000
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you get a chance to watch it,

1001
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: hit me on the side and tell me.

1002
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems pretty I'm gonna watch it. So let

1003
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: me ask you how much cocaine was involved back then?

1004
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 5: I did it.

1005
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 6: He's like cocaine or what I probably did enough cocaine

1006
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 6: to kill. Tell elephants, you guys are hell coke.

1007
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: And diego cocaine. Right, you have to talk about cocaine

1008
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: looking you know, like yo, they cocaine. Everyone who may

1009
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: cocaine back then looks great.

1010
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 6: Now he got collagen and.

1011
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Cocaine.

1012
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: Cocaine experience started.

1013
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 6: And he hates when I say this, DJ Breakout, DJ

1014
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 6: Breakout from the four. He was the one that gave

1015
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: me my first hit of cocaine at the Ecstasy Ga

1016
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 6: Garage in the Bronx.

1017
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: The Exstasy Garage yeah.

1018
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 6: It was it was me we we we we were

1019
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 6: playing at the excess CI garage.

1020
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: Did you have ecstasy to No?

1021
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 5: I never with that anyway.

1022
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 6: But so I go to the bathroom, right, and Tony

1023
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 6: to follows me because we gotta go and break.

1024
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: I was in there and he was taking to hit

1025
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: a cocaine and.

1026
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 6: I was curious because I had already people seen I've

1027
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 6: seen them taking cocaine, and I was like, what does

1028
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 6: that do?

1029
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: Because it was you heard white lines?

1030
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: This time was white Line started.

1031
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 6: This is the time of when Curtis Look came out

1032
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 6: with crystals wrap.

1033
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 5: So I was I'm like, how does it feeling? And

1034
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 5: he's like, you never took it?

1035
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: I said no, He says here, So I took a

1036
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 6: here bum right, and not a few ship So I said,

1037
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 6: he says, here, take another one, and I still didn't.

1038
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: Right, don't take another one.

1039
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: I go back to DJ.

1040
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 6: Yo.

1041
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is going on? Tony?

1042
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 5: Tone Yo, slow down?

1043
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 6: You know? He says, slow down.

1044
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: He's like, you're not on beat?

1045
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. I don't know how to

1046
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 6: tell you that break our health hae. But I include

1047
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 6: him in this way. But it's the truth. He was

1048
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 6: the first to give it to me. Now, fast forward, Bro,

1049
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 6: growing up in the business, and people loved me and

1050
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 6: they were doing it.

1051
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 5: But like, yo, you're the fucking ship, yo.

1052
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: You know, like here bro lick.

1053
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 5: And I never paid for it for years and years

1054
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 5: and years and years.

1055
00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 6: Bro to the point where I was doing it like crazy, Yo, I.

1056
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: Was go yo.

1057
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 5: But at one point it got really serious.

1058
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 6: It was like now it's like now now I'm starting

1059
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 6: to buy it because now I'm feeling like I want

1060
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 6: to have it. It makes them feel good, and it

1061
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 6: got it got a lot of control for me.

1062
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 5: Man, it did.

1063
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 6: But fast forward last September, fifteen years clean me.

1064
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 5: You know what, that's an accomplishment for me, Bro on

1065
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 5: your own to go through any kind of PODT.

1066
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 6: I had some accountability brothers that they were there and.

1067
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 5: Helped me out.

1068
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 6: Man, it wasn't for them, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have

1069
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 6: probably been able to make the journey. But yeah, fifteen

1070
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 6: years now, Clean han't messed with. I still drink, you know.

1071
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 6: But the funny thing with me is that I always

1072
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 6: thought that the cocaine was started to drink because I

1073
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 6: used to drink mad Heinekens, and it was the other

1074
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 6: way around.

1075
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: It was the Heinnikans that were making me.

1076
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 6: So now you know, I stopped the blow and now

1077
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 6: I just take a drink, a tool, whatever, and I'm

1078
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 6: good man, no more god damn yeah. Yeah, but the

1079
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: drugs will be instrumental.

1080
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: Bro in the eighties, right, and eighties were a blur.

1081
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: The eighties are a blur. Bro.

1082
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 5: Look in Wilstar, who was it?

1083
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: That is it?

1084
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: Busy be?

1085
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 6: That's yes in the movie.

1086
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: I was like when I remember watching, oh oh, he's yeah,

1087
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: we're happening. I forgot this war.

1088
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: When he goes back with the chicks right in the

1089
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 5: limo in the room.

1090
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're taking cocaine and the high champagne.

1091
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: They're in the room.

1092
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 6: He's shaping his money into b It was crazy that

1093
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 6: film that we could talk about it.

1094
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 5: We get into the Yeah, okay.

1095
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Hold on, we'll get back to it. Hold on ready,

1096
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: all right, Yes, you got the next one.

1097
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 5: Grandmaster Kaz or Almighty KG. Come on, man, Grandmaster Caz

1098
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 5: hands down.

1099
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: Brother makes noise to Grandma.

1100
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 5: Besides listen, I'm I'm biased man, that's my brother.

1101
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: Nobody is ever that's the word I've been trying to

1102
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: use all that right.

1103
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 6: I'm by that's that's my brother to me. He is

1104
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 6: the best I ever did it. Think about this for

1105
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 6: a second. Kazh wrote, you know he's the ghost rider

1106
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 6: on Rapper's Delight.

1107
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 5: He wrote that he was sixteen years old, but he

1108
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 5: was unwillingly the ghost writer, right right.

1109
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 6: He wrote that verse all the big banks hecks Hanks

1110
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 6: verse I not record when he was sixteen. Come on,

1111
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 6: it's right, cas is genius, gas Is I think the

1112
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 6: only MC that I've ever met that can flip the

1113
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 6: script on anything. You need, something, you need, something that's

1114
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 6: going to fit a white audience, He'll do it in

1115
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 6: and all you do give him a second a heartbeat,

1116
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 6: I said, okay, jes, let's go any crowd anything.

1117
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 5: Cash is the man.

1118
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 6: And I'm biased, But because bro right, I've dealt with greatness.

1119
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 6: I've worked with me, I heard this about I've worked

1120
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 6: with I worked with Mail, I worked with cast Jo.

1121
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 5: You know they're all three bad, but cast of me.

1122
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 6: Man.

1123
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: It's that's my point.

1124
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, Cass still smoke a lot of marijuana.

1125
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: Broke we had in right hair. He kept rolling. Yeah,

1126
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: he's all right, boom okay, cut you got the next one.

1127
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 5: The eighties or nineties.

1128
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 6: Hip hope because because they had they had the more

1129
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 6: jazzy flow he had, and that by then it was

1130
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 6: established they had that thing, you know, something more the.

1131
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 5: Graph the eighties, when you hear the music, it was we.

1132
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 6: Were still finding our way. We were still trying to

1133
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 6: find a way. The record labels didn't even catch on

1134
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 6: until eighty three, eighty two. Maybe you know we were

1135
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 6: we were signed.

1136
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 5: To CBS Rush or CBS Associated.

1137
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: Look at that, we're damn near label mates. We started

1138
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: with CBS Radio for the podcast.

1139
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 6: Right, we were the first hip hop group they signed,

1140
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 6: and they didn't know how to marketers, they didn't know

1141
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 6: how to owner, they didn't know what they hell to

1142
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 6: do with us.

1143
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 5: They're finally with us.

1144
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 6: And then finally when they got to handle they showed us.

1145
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 6: They said, okay, now that we got a right, let's

1146
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 6: bringing us some new blood.

1147
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, real quick, I'm that one saying the nineties,

1148
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: you don't think the late eighties like if you were

1149
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 3: to be able to change the because I feel like

1150
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: the rock Kims and the kras Is in the Big

1151
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: dadication to me, So late eighties going into the early

1152
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: nineties to me would be.

1153
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 6: That right, it's sweet spot. When it comes to timelines,

1154
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 6: I'm always fucking this is the over music.

1155
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: But to me the time I was always always get blurred.

1156
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 6: But yes, if you if you really look at it

1157
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 6: from like rock Him on up, that's when when really

1158
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 6: things rock Him changed. He says he changed the game

1159
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 6: and from there on, yes, you know, so I always

1160
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 6: consider that to me, it was always nineties because it

1161
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 6: still had that feel to it to me.

1162
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: Next one run DMC or Treachers three.

1163
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 6: Treacher's three, And I'll tell you not because of my boys,

1164
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 6: not because they thought it well, we put the Churchers

1165
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 6: three was a bad motherfucking group, not taking anything away

1166
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 6: from from DMC.

1167
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 5: Have you you've never seen them perform live?

1168
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 6: Turchers?

1169
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 5: You know?

1170
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 6: When I first saw the Churches three performed was at

1171
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 6: the Ecstasy Garage, right, the house was.

1172
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: Passed, definitely, we were definitely.

1173
00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 6: No doubt. They came on and they did super rapping right, No,

1174
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 6: I mean not super rapid. Call the Churches three well,

1175
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 6: I forgot the name of the of the song. It

1176
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 6: was on the other side of Spoony G's Love Wrap.

1177
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 6: Now another one something Something and they did that continuous

1178
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 6: back to back machine gun when I'm the super popping

1179
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 6: no was rocking nigga.

1180
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 5: And they just kept going and going and going and

1181
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 5: going and going.

1182
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: Now stop for almost eight minutes. I had never seen

1183
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 6: a group do that in my freaking life. They they've

1184
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 6: The skill that those brothers have is incredible. They was cohesive,

1185
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 6: they were together and they were on point.

1186
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: Man.

1187
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 6: It's like run DMC. No, I ain't they have their

1188
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 6: own m DJ You d m C DJ right?

1189
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 5: Who me? No DMC DJ?

1190
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I thought you was DMC DJ.

1191
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: I told you who he goes on the road. It

1192
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: brings you the what d m C right? You don't

1193
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: DJ from no? No, holy shit. Steve le Belle told

1194
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: us a lot DMC.

1195
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 5: Do you mean DJ DMC?

1196
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: No, fucking Steve Bell, you live me.

1197
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 5: They're from my friends, but I never DJ for them.

1198
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, damn man. He told me that earlier.

1199
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 6: Now. I love run DMC because they give us mad props.

1200
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 6: They give us nothing but props in love and d

1201
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 6: m C.

1202
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 5: When we had him on the show.

1203
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: I saw that.

1204
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, he made me laugh. Bro hispanic he was he

1205
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 12: was Dominican for how many two minutes, like two years?

1206
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 12: Two years he was Dominican.

1207
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: That goes to show you why none of that really

1208
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: matters at the end of the day. Yes, okay, break

1209
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: dancing a graffiti. Yes, remember you can say both of

1210
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 3: us are drinking games.

1211
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: You see.

1212
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 5: You know I know it is.

1213
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 6: You can give me questions that I can answer that,

1214
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 6: all right, Okay, Now, I love graffiti, but I was

1215
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 6: never I never had the eye for the art. So

1216
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 6: sometimes I will see graffiti and you got me doing

1217
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 6: this to try to figure out the way he's.

1218
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: Written, what it's saying or whatever.

1219
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 6: Although I love the colors, I love the way they

1220
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 6: structure everything, I was never able to really get into

1221
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 6: it because I always had a hard time reading the graph.

1222
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 6: So B Boy was more into it because remember Charlie

1223
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 6: Chase started as a bee boy DJ. You understand when

1224
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 6: I finally got acclimated with the beads and stuff like that.

1225
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 5: Before you were part of Cold Crush, I was plinging

1226
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 5: when the team parked the park.

1227
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 6: Across the streets from there were bee boys always showing

1228
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: up and representing. So the B Boy man, you know,

1229
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 6: that's a strong that's strong love in the heart man

1230
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 6: makes way back.

1231
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: I respect that.

1232
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: Say the next one Red Alert or kid Capri Okay

1233
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 5: two people?

1234
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but you should not remember you're posing

1235
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 6: this question to somebody who has a I know you are,

1236
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 6: but you're talking to somebody who has an emotional attachment

1237
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 6: to some of these people that you're talking to. Alert.

1238
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 6: I know Redd Alert what he used to have a

1239
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 6: nineteen inch red ass affle like this before he was

1240
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 6: really he was a DJ, but he really wasn't known

1241
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 6: he was.

1242
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Part of part.

1243
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 5: I think it was the cosmic force of cosmic cruise

1244
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 5: something like that. I've known him since.

1245
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: Then, you know, and he was always the brother that

1246
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 6: he is today, always loving, always welcoming, always you know.

1247
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's my brother man. I you know, we

1248
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 6: still talk, We call each other, make sure we're good.

1249
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it has to be read Alert man Oka, jam

1250
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 5: Messa J or Eric B.

1251
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 6: That would have to be jam Master J. Because jam

1252
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 6: Master everyby I met him maybe once or twice.

1253
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 5: We spoke Coop.

1254
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I never have anything bad to say about

1255
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 6: anything because they all showed me so much love and respect.

1256
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 5: Jam Master J. I have a bit of a connection too, because.

1257
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 6: We worked on that album, The Godfather's a Threat that

1258
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 6: we were on and Chuck d was the producer.

1259
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: He brought us on.

1260
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 6: Jam Mester j came to our house because Cas and

1261
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 6: I were living together. We had an apartment downtown. He

1262
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 6: came to the house, he sat down with spoke with us.

1263
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 6: Hey said, I got up, Well, we want to do

1264
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 6: this project. We want to come in. I want to

1265
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: bring the cold question and stuff. So we went and

1266
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 6: we did that project. We became friends. We were tired.

1267
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 6: He told me about the whole thing, the DM the

1268
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 6: run DMC experienced, how we you know, how we inspired

1269
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 6: them and all that. So, you know, I kind of

1270
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 6: and then after they passed away, that really kind of

1271
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 6: you know, it's maybe morbid to say, but it kind

1272
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 6: of reinforced that with me and him, you know, because

1273
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 6: I knew the brother man, you know.

1274
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: B Street or wild Style, Wild Style. I don't know

1275
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: that he's gonna drink.

1276
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: Come on, man, yeah, he ain't drinking at all.

1277
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 6: You know what, just for you nor.

1278
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 5: You've got to get something.

1279
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 6: I guess that's the major rule.

1280
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 1: We don't anything.

1281
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: We'll have or Big Daddy kne He text me racket Okay.

1282
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: I love them both. They those are my brothers.

1283
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 6: Or Kane, but big Daddy Kane, you know, you know,

1284
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 6: it's a joke between myself and Kane. I always call

1285
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 6: him the seventh Cold Crush brother because he tells me

1286
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 6: the story about how he used to escape from his

1287
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 6: house at night to come to see us perform at

1288
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 6: Harleward when he was a young teenager. He would come

1289
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 6: to see us perform, and he loved us. And one

1290
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 6: time he escaped, he got back home and his father

1291
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 6: was waiting for him beat the livery shit out of him.

1292
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 6: And I was like, you're kidding me, Like, nah, man,

1293
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 6: this is I love y'all. And he always he always

1294
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 6: loved having a surround.

1295
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 5: He always likes you know.

1296
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 6: He always he asked me to perform with them one

1297
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 6: time and and and I mean that's Daddy Cane, his

1298
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 6: down man.

1299
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 5: I mean, that's my brother. Man. I know him for

1300
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: Soldos for so long.

1301
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: Man, you know, you know him before he had the

1302
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: cuts and the ship. Yeah, I ain't gonna lot.

1303
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 6: When he was signed of Cold Chilling, you know, when

1304
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 6: he was.

1305
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 1: A young ship. Yeah, DJ Clue or funk Flex.

1306
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 6: Flex because I never met Clue. Okay, I worked with why.

1307
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 5: Me and Flex were DJing together at w b l S.

1308
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah for about Easier and I.

1309
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: Love Clue that's my brother. But DJ mister Flex is

1310
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: the greatest radio DJ of all time. I got it.

1311
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 6: He reminds you of that too.

1312
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: I dropping the record. I don't need him to fit.

1313
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. That's not what I'm doing this for. I'm

1314
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: doing this because this is the real that like I

1315
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: sincerely enjoy listening to the funk Master Flex on the radio.

1316
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: I sincerely enjoyed it.

1317
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to the shout out Tolue in Flex Man

1318
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: and cluse my brother that's on the mixtape.

1319
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: Tip from the mixtape bor Revolution, the legendary. Come on,

1320
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: we know that he may he helped. He helped me

1321
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: my career, that clue. Thank you to w b l

1322
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: S or kiss FM b LS.

1323
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 6: Because I worked at BLS, got to meet I got

1324
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 6: to meet Frankie Crocker.

1325
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 5: Freaking wow, Frankie Crocker.

1326
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, when I started DJing at

1327
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 6: w b LS, Gonna make You.

1328
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 5: Sweat Everybody Dance Now came out.

1329
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 6: I had the first copy. I played it on the air,

1330
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 6: nobody heard it and the freaking red phone went off.

1331
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 6: Frankie Crocker put me on the Lady b was on

1332
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 6: the air, she was the air personality inside for She said, Yo,

1333
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 6: Frankie wants to talk to you.

1334
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 5: He says, Yo, what is that record?

1335
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 6: Who is that record? I told him this is and

1336
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 6: he said, Yo, we got to add this. So you know,

1337
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 6: I got it that I feels, you know, I met Frankie.

1338
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 6: Frankie Crocker is a legends, a total black experience in sound.

1339
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: That's what I worked with.

1340
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 5: Man, all right, DJ Premiere, Pete Rock.

1341
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: Take a shot.

1342
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 5: I'm going to have to win that one. I don't

1343
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 5: have a shot.

1344
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 6: Cheers, cheers, Premiere, Mamajuana. I met Premiere through Guru a

1345
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 6: friends peace, great dud. We were not a friends and we

1346
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 6: we we we we we were cool and we will

1347
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 6: hang out.

1348
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 5: I brought him to a couple of Cold Crush recording sessions.

1349
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

1350
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 6: Wow, he came and hung out with us. That's how

1351
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 6: I met Premiere Premiere. I met him like listen, man,

1352
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 6: the thing about me and hip hop and the co

1353
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 6: christ to include you, gotta include them. I have been

1354
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 6: to countries where I have never been to in my life.

1355
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 6: And as soon as I get off the plane. I

1356
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 6: have friends, right, you know what I'm saying, and I

1357
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 6: and and that has always been with the hip hop community.

1358
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 6: Like all these guys, they they always tell it. Man,

1359
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 6: if it wasn't for you guys, you guys are inspired us.

1360
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 6: I get that from everybody. You throwing aim at me,

1361
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 6: and they've probably said that to me. Promia was that,

1362
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But now Pee Rock right,

1363
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: that's my mayor. So Pee Rock and I have been

1364
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 6: friends for many, many, many many years and never met

1365
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 6: until last summer. Forgot over a decade here and I've

1366
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 6: been friends talking on the phone, texting, social media, and

1367
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 6: we never met until last year when we did that

1368
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 6: thing for Flash. That's what we actually finally shook hands,

1369
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 6: embraced talk, kind of chapped it up for a minute

1370
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 6: and went that with that, What.

1371
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Did you think about the jay Z line, I'm over

1372
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: charging people for what they did to the Cold Crush.

1373
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 5: Only he undercharged the Cold Crush.

1374
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1375
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 5: Why didn't we get a check?

1376
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 6: Why don't we work? He said, I didn't.

1377
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: Want any money.

1378
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 6: I want to work.

1379
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: Let me do something for you, man. It was it

1380
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: is what it is.

1381
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 5: I'm not going to get mad, but I was. I

1382
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 5: was happy for I would but that line is so hard,

1383
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 5: But I was happy we were mentioned by somebody like

1384
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying because I'm not mad.

1385
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: Because when we cast, I felt like cast didn't he

1386
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: was cool with it, but he didn't really love love it.

1387
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: But then when I we visited that episode and I

1388
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: watched it, I was like, you know what, I think

1389
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: he was big and y'all up. We were saying this

1390
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: if he.

1391
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: Was, I think it was a big Yeah, it was,

1392
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: and he was using you guys as an example as

1393
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: an example that it was was underpaid at a certain time.

1394
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 5: He was definitely labors. We're taking advantage.

1395
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: And he's not gonna he's gonna overcharge for what they

1396
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: did to hip hop back then, meaning using.

1397
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 5: And I took it just like that.

1398
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 6: Although a lot of people try to twist it and says, oh,

1399
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 6: he he needed to use a pioneering name to do this,

1400
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 6: I didn't.

1401
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 5: I didn't see it.

1402
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: And the other positive side effect is that by mentioning

1403
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: Cold Crush directly, any young kid that's never heard the

1404
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 3: Cold Crushing is listening to the song, is going to

1405
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: now go in and do their googles and learn about

1406
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: Cold Crush and learn about hip hop history.

1407
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 5: Right, it was only a plus for us. It was

1408
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 5: only because you.

1409
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 6: Know, we never had hit records. You can't remember a

1410
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 6: record that was ever because we did it. But our

1411
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 6: show was so impressive, so off the top or over

1412
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 6: the top and crazy that it was memorable. Man, people

1413
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 6: looked at us, and we want to do that.

1414
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: You know your TV raps or video music box, video

1415
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: music gonna say that.

1416
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 5: Of course I need to yo, that's all.

1417
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: Whatever you have, absolutely, of course, man, Uncle Ralph cars

1418
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: one on rock Him take a shot. So don't lead

1419
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: the witness. I can't lead the witness. I'm sorry, excuse me.

1420
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: Cales want to rock Him?

1421
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 6: I love I love rock Him. I love them both.

1422
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 6: So that's a hard one. Yeah, but I love them.

1423
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: But you from the Bronx, are you gonna.

1424
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 5: No no, no, no no.

1425
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 6: That's a hormor for me because I love rock Him style.

1426
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 5: I met him, we we immediately clipped.

1427
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 6: We were friends, you know, And I like I like

1428
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 6: the teacher because he come on, he he'll say things that.

1429
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 5: You never thought about. Is crazy. The way the clarity

1430
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 5: he brings, the things that you've always never.

1431
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 6: Thought about is incredible. So it's hard man, So you

1432
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 6: know I got good?

1433
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, by the way I need Jamie got I

1434
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: spilled the one by mistake's point. But let me just

1435
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: tell you, hold on, wait, let me tell you how

1436
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: good care rest one? Is? He hurt my childhood?

1437
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 5: What the.

1438
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: Bridges? And he's still my favorite rapper? How is this

1439
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: even he spilled the shot? Okay, so how does that

1440
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: even work? Like he hurt my he hurt me because

1441
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't deny how great the music critic, how great

1442
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: he was?

1443
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 6: The k r Rist is such a powerful performer. We

1444
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 6: did sello. We did the show called Old School throw

1445
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 6: Down three okay, where the promoter was Tyron Williams from

1446
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 6: Coaching and Records. Wow right okay, And they were pitting

1447
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 6: old groups that battled in the day and knew it

1448
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 6: groups and created battles and it was the Old School Throwdown.

1449
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: Don't tell me Shannon and Krris one right, that was

1450
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: part of the battle. Shann got new TeV out here.

1451
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 3: Ye had to go check out Shan talking about the

1452
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 3: Drake Kendrick.

1453
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shannon is talking about Drake. He kills on the

1454
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: social media swinter grab and he.

1455
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 5: Going into it like, I mean, this is the when

1456
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 5: it was all going down. He threw it and I

1457
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 5: was like, yes, shit, I want to watch it. And

1458
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 5: I'm rested.

1459
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 6: Ship.

1460
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: I forgot because I stopped following everybody at one point,

1461
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: so I forgot. I gotta refollows. I have to refollow him.

1462
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. So when we did that concert the Old School

1463
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 6: door on three, they had us battling the Furious and

1464
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 6: then the Fields far was battling another group. Is so

1465
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 6: Shan with KRS one and so forth right, So Kris

1466
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 6: one was the closer, right, everybody did their shows. The

1467
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 6: place it was at Madison Square Garden in the in

1468
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 6: the in the paramount. It was called the Panamm three

1469
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 6: at the time. I don't know what it is now,

1470
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,959
Speaker 6: but the six thousand seater.

1471
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: Got it, the smaller version of the right.

1472
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 6: Yes capacity, yes, yes, Shan did his thing. And when

1473
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 6: they announced KRS one and he stepped on that only

1474
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 6: did with he's such a show. I thought matisonsquir Garden

1475
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 6: was going to come down like in an earthquake.

1476
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 5: The people went banana the shape the present and then

1477
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: he'll speak my will be boy on stays away.

1478
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 6: He didn't even say a word, and he just completely

1479
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 6: almost shut the whole thing down. Man, that's the power.

1480
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 6: Chares one, no, Kris one.

1481
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: We need him back. We need him back for sure.

1482
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: N w a Wu Tang clan.

1483
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 8: Okay, you need to stop, man, I need to stop.

1484
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 8: He's not leading me this. Man, he's not leading me

1485
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 8: because already you know you're.

1486
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 6: Asking me questions that I can ask. It would have

1487
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 6: to be it would have to be w Tang. And

1488
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 6: I'll tell you why I love this.

1489
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 5: I know. I met the Wu Tang before they.

1490
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 6: Started making records through uh gizz Gizzo used to be

1491
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 6: the Genius.

1492
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 5: When he was signed to.

1493
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 6: Right Tarron Williams had asked me to edit. I used

1494
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 6: to do a lot of editing because I used to

1495
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 6: work for Sleeping Back Records and they're editing because I

1496
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 6: was the manager doing the editing for them up there.

1497
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 6: So Tarro knew this and he had asked me to

1498
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 6: edit a record. Call do me by the Genius. So

1499
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 6: I edited the record. I met Genius. He was matt cool.

1500
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 6: You know, he thanked me for working on his rekingd

1501
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So there was yeah, absolutely, so

1502
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 6: we were at this place where they used to dupe records,

1503
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 6: I mean dupe cassettes all the time.

1504
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 5: Square there was this building I forgot what it was.

1505
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 6: It was around the corner from where Sleeping Bag and

1506
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 6: Cole Chilling used to be across the street, right there

1507
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 6: around the corner. And I was picking up some tape

1508
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 6: by Tendis because we had some eight ten cold course

1509
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 6: we had a show that night, and Wu Tang the

1510
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 6: whole clique was coming out the building. They were young,

1511
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 6: they were together, the whole all of them were there.

1512
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 6: No you know, and to you, they said, what's up?

1513
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: Man?

1514
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 6: We met and he said, yo, yo, fellers coming, you

1515
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 6: got to meet this guy. This is Charlie Chase, Mighty

1516
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 6: Cold Christ Brothers. So and so they were like, yoh deal.

1517
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 6: So it's gotta be Wu Tang Man.

1518
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 5: You know what if I met you then then yet

1519
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 5: right right.

1520
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 3: And absolutely both of the such great.

1521
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely the next one.

1522
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 5: Biggie or Big L. Want to never met Big L.

1523
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 5: Rest in peace to both met Biggie. But this is

1524
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 5: an interesting story.

1525
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 6: I met Biggie at the rock Steady Anniversary party when

1526
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 6: they used to have it downtown in Manhattan. Really back

1527
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 6: in the nineties. Biggie wasn't known, Biggie didn't have a deal.

1528
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 6: You know. It was Biggie Small KG from my group

1529
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 6: was Pigge always had the thing of meeting everybody.

1530
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 5: He was that guy.

1531
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 6: He had a big personal They love the plus he

1532
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,440
Speaker 6: was the host at the Underground.

1533
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 5: I was at the Underground all Latin Quarter. That's six

1534
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 5: Street fifty fifty.

1535
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 6: Right, So he had Biggie with him. We were there.

1536
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 5: I was DJing.

1537
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 6: I was DJing for the uh Rock Ctatey anniversary. Can

1538
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 6: you hear what's key? I want to introduce you. Here's

1539
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 6: a new up and coming artist. He's got a deal

1540
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 6: or he's looking for a deal or something. His name

1541
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 6: is Biggie Small's. I meant he was a young kid,

1542
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 6: young kid, yo, what's up? You know yo?

1543
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: Man?

1544
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 5: Respect and the whole ship. That was the only time

1545
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 5: I have got to me.

1546
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: He was cool.

1547
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 6: He was man cool.

1548
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: He was cool. You know, I mean, everybody has to

1549
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: be cool to you.

1550
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 5: Everybody was cool to us.

1551
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have to be. But there were

1552
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: going to ask this question, was there ever anybody that

1553
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: you met that wasn't cool to you? Because by the way,

1554
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna let's store him under the bus.

1555
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 6: Now, it was nobody that wasn't cool with us. Now,

1556
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 6: if you're gonna, if you're gonna go back to the

1557
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 6: early days, everybody, we were all cool.

1558
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 5: But it was competitive. So it was it was competitive.

1559
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: So you say mey Mail wasn't cool? Bully Mail?

1560
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 6: Who was my man?

1561
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: I was the DJ.

1562
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 5: I was in DJ for him a year. You know

1563
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

1564
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, you didn't.

1565
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 5: Okay, I posted something you look, you gotta go on

1566
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 5: my page and look it out. So here's the story

1567
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 5: behind that.

1568
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 6: Let's go seventy eight, seventy nine, Black Door have broken up?

1569
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 6: Flash and the MC the Furious four.

1570
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 5: Right broke up?

1571
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: Right?

1572
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 5: Which Flash talks about it.

1573
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: When it broke up, they.

1574
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 6: Didn't they didn't want to go back. I used to

1575
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 6: live in an apartment on the first floor one hundred

1576
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 6: and eightieth and Arth where you couldn't. I used to

1577
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 6: so mixtapes out the window to all the community.

1578
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 5: Car drivers Old Jay's. They all used to come knocking

1579
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,480
Speaker 5: to buy myselff.

1580
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on because a lot of people don't

1581
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: not gonna know what Old J's is.

1582
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 6: Cap Sure the cap sur okay, right?

1583
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 5: And they had to.

1584
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 6: They always had to bang in sound system. So anyway,

1585
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 6: you could come up to my window knock and I

1586
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 6: would open up, like, what's up? I met people won't

1587
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 6: kind of Still, One day there was a knock on

1588
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,480
Speaker 6: my window. It was mister Nests, who now is Scorpio,

1589
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 6: mister Ness and k Creole. Now I could be confused,

1590
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 6: because again sometimes things are a blur. I'm sure it

1591
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 6: was Nests. If not, it would have been Combed. But

1592
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 6: I think it was Nests, and Creole said, Yo, man,

1593
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 6: I was surprised to see them knocking on my window,

1594
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 6: you know, like I was pre Col. Course, they weren't

1595
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 6: even together yet.

1596
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 5: We weren't even you guys were together.

1597
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 6: No, we weren't together yet. This was in between seventy seven.

1598
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 6: Colquurtse didn't come together until seventy nine, around seventy nine.

1599
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 3: Eighty and Flashes already left this as the crew. Yeah,

1600
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 3: so let me expect this is where the timeline started

1601
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: sucking football.

1602
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 5: I'm now again I'm an old man, but.

1603
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 6: I'm I don't know. Yeah, yeah, Territory, knock on the window, Yo,

1604
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 6: can we come in and talk to ourself?

1605
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: Sure?

1606
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 6: Come inside, yo, man. We ain't with Flash no more.

1607
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 6: We left Flash, we left back door. We ain't going back.

1608
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck?

1609
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 5: What what happened?

1610
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: Now?

1611
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 6: Man? You know there was some kind of controversy with

1612
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 6: the money, you know, and all kind of stuff they like,

1613
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 6: So we didn't We didn't want Flashes to get they say,

1614
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 6: Flashers get more money.

1615
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 5: They were claiming that there was a deal between Himan management.

1616
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1617
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 6: There's always some kind of stuff.

1618
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 5: Money, always everything up right. So I said, you're the

1619
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 5: only other DJ besides Theodore Flash. We know they can

1620
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 5: cut like that. Would you be o our DJ?

1621
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: Now?

1622
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 5: I had a crew already, you know, a young crew.

1623
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 5: What was the name of your crew? They didn't have

1624
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 5: a name. It was just Charlie Chase.

1625
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: Wasn't Tom and Jerry?

1626
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it was Jerry.

1627
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 5: It was after Tom and Jerry.

1628
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: By way, what's the name Toma Jerry? Yeah?

1629
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.

1630
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 3: And they talk about Graham was the Theodore who they

1631
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: were saying the other person was right? And Theirdore was

1632
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 3: a little kid, you know, he was a young kid,

1633
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: you know. So so they said we would you be

1634
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 3: our DJ? And I said, hell, your fucking let's do it?

1635
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 5: You know. So there's a tape and you go on

1636
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:42,839
Speaker 5: my page.

1637
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 6: Well, I tell the story, the story behind the story,

1638
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 6: and you hear me cutting up with mel Ryman and

1639
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 6: mel And and mahem Ryman on there right. So I

1640
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 6: I For about the next six months or so, we

1641
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 6: were together. We were DJing, doing what we could, popping

1642
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 6: up in parks when I was with them. Now, going

1643
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 6: back to Tony, tone Tony, Tony and I have many

1644
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 6: accomplishments together. Me and Tony from when I see Tony,

1645
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 6: Tony and I were really the first black Puerto Rican

1646
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 6: duo to do anything to come together. We do. We

1647
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 6: were the ones who do the very first ever.

1648
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: Ever drink Champs.

1649
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Champ High always. So we threw the very

1650
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 6: first MC convention ever. One of the mcs and my

1651
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 6: crew had the idea, his name was r. C. He says, Yo,

1652
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 6: let's why don't we do this. I'm like, Yo, that's

1653
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 6: a fucking genius idea. Let's do it. So me and

1654
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 6: Tony we we we got it together. We do it

1655
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 6: at the Webster one a third p a l up

1656
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 6: in the Bronx. That was the first convention ever. So

1657
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 6: that day the Furies four were supposed no actually it

1658
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 6: was a Fury five because now during the breakup was

1659
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 6: when Raheem left the Funky Four and got came into

1660
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 6: the Furious Five with us, changing their name from the

1661
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 6: Four to the Furious five.

1662
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 5: So now they're the Furious five. They were supposed to

1663
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 5: host They can get very confusing, furious yeah.

1664
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah. So they were supposed to host the battle and

1665
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 6: it was broad capacity. A lot of people showed up

1666
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 6: for this thing, and the Casanovas showed up, and they

1667
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 6: had to talk with them and told them, yo, yo,

1668
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 6: y'all gotta.

1669
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 5: Come back, and they were like, yo, we're going back,

1670
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 5: and they went back, and I wasn't mad about it.

1671
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 6: And then like a few months later or so, you know, uh,

1672
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 6: seventy nine eighty something like that was then when we

1673
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 6: formed the col Christ.

1674
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 5: See you did a couple of gigs with them or

1675
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 5: were you ddaying?

1676
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 6: Like for almost eight months or so, we never did

1677
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 6: any paid gigs, but we were always jamming, right because

1678
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 6: I guess remember at the time they have brought in Rahim,

1679
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 6: I guess they were still trying to get acclimated and

1680
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 6: gets in this stuff. They weren't doing shows like they

1681
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 6: were doing afterward, like when when they got back together

1682
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 6: was when they started doing the bigger shows. Back then,

1683
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 6: we were just jamming. They weren't really doing anything big

1684
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 6: except for high schools and stuff like.

1685
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 5: That, you understand.

1686
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, so we would jam out go in the parks.

1687
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 6: Like when you see hear the tape that was Enforced

1688
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 6: projects up in the Bronx.

1689
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 5: You know, that's the only recorded that's crazy that's not

1690
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 5: widely known though, no it's not. But the takers, the

1691
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 5: takers to proof.

1692
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 6: You'll hear Melly Mills saying my name, I'm cutting to

1693
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 6: be real by Lynn uh uh Sheryl Lynn.

1694
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 5: I'm cutting that, you know, and and that that happened.

1695
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 5: That adds to your legend, bro.

1696
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, so so that they have to be furious five.

1697
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 3: That's though, God damn it, ahead, get the next one.

1698
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 3: Let's see where we're are here, Scarface or ice Cube.

1699
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 5: I like ice Cube. I have to say ice Cub.

1700
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 3: You know why.

1701
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 6: He reminds me so much of the Urse with their hardness.

1702
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 6: I don't give a funns. And you know, it's like

1703
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 6: we're doing what we're doing.

1704
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 5: The fuck y'all, you know, and that was what the

1705
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 5: Cold courses off. But I would have to say ice Cube,

1706
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 5: all right, beating nuts or Cypress Hill beat nuts. Man,

1707
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 5: I love Cypress Hip, but beat nuts on my boys.

1708
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 6: Man, you know those are my boys.

1709
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 5: Bro shout out to a cycle les. They performed up

1710
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 5: in the in the.

1711
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 6: At the hard rocking Tampa about a couple of months ago.

1712
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 6: They were hanging we were hanging out, and.

1713
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 5: So Big Pun or Coolgie wrapped. That's that's gonna be

1714
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 5: a tough one.

1715
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 4: I don't.

1716
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 1: Take your so this. I don't want to pike that.

1717
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 6: Okay, you said Coolie wrapping and and who know, big

1718
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 6: big Big Pun. I'm not gonna pick between those two.

1719
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: I got.

1720
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 6: That.

1721
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 5: I got love for both of them. Man, you know

1722
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Bro, just give a shot that look.

1723
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 3: Come on, even drunk, Come on, you guys, this these

1724
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: fucking you guys are to the average, to the person.

1725
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 5: You know, Fat Joe, I've definitely asked that, Fat Joe,

1726
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 5: I don't know. Yeah, I could have told you that the.

1727
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 3: Guys we could have had it Bull coming would have

1728
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 3: came here, would have and and he would have showed

1729
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: a lot of himself, super rich and super Latino.

1730
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 6: I'm not taking anything away from pit Bull I mean, listen,

1731
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 6: he's made a lot of accomplishments. No, he's he's in

1732
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 6: his own way, in his own right. Man, He's done

1733
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 6: a lot early early humble beginning, and I've seen that.

1734
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 6: I've seen the way he started and where he ended up.

1735
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 6: Now he's internationally does he's on TV, he's got young.

1736
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: He literally didn't let the game change him. He literally

1737
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: didn't like like I mean, even me, I let the

1738
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: game change me. At one point I got sucked up,

1739
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: you know.

1740
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 6: What I mean.

1741
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: It happened and then and then and then I came

1742
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: back to reality.

1743
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,879
Speaker 5: But what do you describe?

1744
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: What you What is a change? What changes you think?

1745
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: You give an example of that. You're not realizing that

1746
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: this game does not belong to you. It's the world's game.

1747
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: And at one point, when you platinum, you think that

1748
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: it's all about you, and it's actually not. You're the

1749
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: fucking flavor of the month.

1750
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 5: Remember this, bro, nobody's bigger than hip hop.

1751
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: Nobody's bigger than hip hop.

1752
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 5: Nobody's But that's the problem, the artistic no, no, no, no,

1753
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 5: that is the problem. That's the problem.

1754
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: But what's the solution is when you find that out?

1755
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: The solution is you find it out and you say,

1756
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: you know what, because it just happens, like you know,

1757
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: being in front of the public's I sometimes you don't

1758
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: realize that you're the seventh guy or the one hundredth guy,

1759
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a hundred guys after you. That

1760
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: that that that it's going to put in that same position,

1761
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: and that shit is heartbreaking. Like like I always say,

1762
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 1: but like it's hard to be the man on Monday

1763
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 1: and not wake up and be the man on Wednesday.

1764
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 3: But that wouldn't be a hip hop problem. That would

1765
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: be a celebrity problem. That would be a famous problem.

1766
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't, I can't. I can't actually pinpoint

1767
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: any other problem pinpoint hip hop. I could see when

1768
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: I met a young MC, and if I can see it,

1769
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: I know you can see it. And they're so humble.

1770
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're just happy to be there next year.

1771
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: They're like, they won't even walk over and say hi

1772
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: to you. They won't even give you a fucking five

1773
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: because they're the guy at that moment. And what they

1774
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: don't understand is we've been the guy for thirty years,

1775
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: right twenty years ago. So every fucking party that you've

1776
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: been to. I've kind of been there already. I get

1777
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: it everything that you kind of did, like you're my ougi.

1778
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: But I'll be looking at these these young boys you jaded,

1779
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: your bit Jay, this young Wriver Snappers, and They're like,

1780
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, dude, what did you just say to me?

1781
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: What did you just say to me? Like I was

1782
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: platinum in nineteenety eight, you platinum or trying to go

1783
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: platinum in twenty twenty four. I've had my party and

1784
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: by the way, it was awesome, But listen fantastic.

1785
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 5: Those those are my bad to cut you too, though,

1786
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 5: but those.

1787
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Are the accolades I think that have gone wrong for

1788
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: hip hop because because in late eighties early nineties, I

1789
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 3: can only speak for my general rational perception right or

1790
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 3: point of view better said the artist I was listening to,

1791
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: they were paying homage to the founders and the pioneers.

1792
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 3: Therefore the listener and us coming up were like, these

1793
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: are our heroes. I didn't grow up on Cold Crust necessarily,

1794
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up on Grand Master Flash, but I

1795
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 3: felt like I did because the artists that I grew

1796
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 3: up to were saying, this is why we're here. Therefore,

1797
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 3: this is why you're here listening to us and being

1798
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: a part of this culture.

1799
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 5: So this is why we're here. And so it made

1800
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 5: me dig in the crazy sort of say.

1801
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 3: And so to me, the accolades of selling platinum or

1802
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 3: gold didn't matter. It was who impacted the culture more

1803
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 3: and who are the forefathers and the foundation of people

1804
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: that is that weighs way more than how many records

1805
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 3: you sold. You know what I'm saying, Like Crazy Legs,

1806
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: who doesn't sell any records, was way more of a

1807
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: bigger figure in pop then this artist that went platinum.

1808
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 3: In a sense absolutely, And that's where I think where

1809
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: we lost our way, No, because we don't do that anymore.

1810
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: We don't, we don't. We started that picture, started to

1811
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: equivolate uh, success with accolades, like how you just said,

1812
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: like you just said, you said, you man, we didn't

1813
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: have hit records, but we had.

1814
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 5: Hits hit stage shows.

1815
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: You you you you tear that stage show up. So

1816
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: when we started to like, uh, look at it and say,

1817
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: all right, this is this, this is that, this is

1818
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: that because uh, let's just be clear. Na's first album, Ellmatic,

1819
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: was not received. Yeah, I know, like people are lying

1820
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:50,480
Speaker 1: when they say, oh, Shmatic was Ellmatic wasn't classic.

1821
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 3: Sales wise, it wasn't sales wise, but culturally that's the thing.

1822
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 3: Culturally what it did was phenomenal. It changed the album worry.

1823
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: I can't stand you motherfucker's telling me my hot of

1824
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: classic legendary for my album. You motherfuckers did not go

1825
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: to the stall. My ship did not say, but.

1826
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 3: You're right because the audience, the audience was broke, that

1827
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: culture was broke.

1828
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: They had to boot leg and ship. You're gonna you're

1829
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: gonna help them, Yes, but that's probably true. It can

1830
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: be true, like the mix it because I come.

1831
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 3: From the I'm a mixtape DJ that was putting your

1832
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: songs on my on my mixtape.

1833
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 5: I hate to tell you this now, but you didn't

1834
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 5: make a dime off.

1835
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: Of me putting in on This is what I'm saying.

1836
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 6: But somehow we got here.

1837
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm telling you that shit hurt me. Like when

1838
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: people say that now, they'd be like the woll report

1839
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: got me through some ship. I'll be looking at you

1840
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: like you boot leg my shit. You ain't buy my album.

1841
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wouldn't. I mean, person, I'm sorry.

1842
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 6: Let me get the funk out you know what, Wilstefall

1843
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 6: was under that category. Whilst All it was one hundred

1844
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 6: listener thousand dollar budget movie. That movie was that everybody

1845
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 6: tries to say Russell didn't. I'm not taking nothing away

1846
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 6: from Russell, anything from Russell, but WildStar was the movie

1847
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 6: that showed everybody how this was done, because everybody that

1848
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 6: was in the movie that did what they acted actually

1849
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 6: did what they did in real life. Even the stick

1850
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 6: up kid in the movie was a real stick up.

1851
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm gonna have to stand up and tell you,

1852
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: Charlie Chase, you guys didn't act very well.

1853
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 5: It was a documentary.

1854
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 6: Saw you held a documentary.

1855
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,879
Speaker 1: I look at I said, I don't think they're reacting.

1856
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: I think this is just a.

1857
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 6: Do you know what it wants to stand up against

1858
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 6: Theodore like this is it's giddy could beat come on man.

1859
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 6: But it was a cult hit and that was all

1860
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 6: over the world, and that was the movie that introduced

1861
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 6: hip hop to the entire planet. Because when the Will

1862
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 6: style first hit that we were on it and the

1863
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 6: first stop we made was Japan. Dude, it was it

1864
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 6: was like a nuclear explosion. We were there a week.

1865
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 6: Everybody saw it was going on the first week. By

1866
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 6: the time we left, there were already people out there

1867
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 6: dressing and guys trying to break dance and all kinds

1868
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 6: of stuff. Right, I mean, listen, let me, let me

1869
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 6: show you the power of hip hop. Let me expect

1870
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 6: a story lost our tour, never been there first time.

1871
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 6: We're all touring, right, we needed translators to walk around with.

1872
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 6: So I'm walking on with this translator and there's this

1873
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 6: Japanese kid with a boombox and he recognized me. I

1874
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 6: guess because we were doing a lot of TV and

1875
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 6: a lot of press and stuff. So he recognized me

1876
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 6: and he runs up and he's talking Japanese. I don't

1877
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 6: understand up, but the translators telling me, oh, he knows

1878
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 6: who you are. He says he loves the Cold Crush.

1879
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 6: And I'm like, how do you know about the Cold Course?

1880
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 6: And he says and he told the guy says, he

1881
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 6: hits he hits play on it. He had a boombox,

1882
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 6: he hits play and he's playing a Cold Curse tape.

1883
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 6: Well fucked my head up was that this guy didn't

1884
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 6: speak a link lick of English, but he's reciting all

1885
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 6: the Cold Curse liberals.

1886
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 5: That's crazy. That was the power of hip hop. That

1887
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 5: was the power of wild stock.

1888
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 6: That movie said.

1889
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah it was old what you said, but yo, it

1890
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 3: was it was not We're gonna We're I want to

1891
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 3: circle back to when we finished Quick Time, Kid Frost

1892
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 3: or Melimanaise, this is Latino rais.

1893
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that Latino racism, right.

1894
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 5: Why is the Latino racism?

1895
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: I just feel like the division. Mann just take a shower.

1896
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 6: Met both of them, mayor.

1897
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 5: Cool so uh and they and they both had their successes,

1898
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 5: and both of them want to come together to drink Champs.

1899
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 3: F y, I'm saying it right here on the show

1900
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 3: that both want to come together Kid Frost and Melimanaise.

1901
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: I would like that on drink Champs.

1902
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 5: I'd have to take a shower because I like to

1903
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 5: go for both my boys.

1904
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Man, Okay, I got this is some reggae. Don't ship

1905
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: you got it?

1906
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 6: Okay, I gotta do it.

1907
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 5: You gotta do it.

1908
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Man, you hate reggae, don you gotta reggaet package Diego

1909
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: or Donald Mar.

1910
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 5: Donald Mar is a man too.

1911
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 6: Damn.

1912
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 5: I love Donald Mare.

1913
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 6: But I met Tago, I met Tago down brother, I

1914
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,759
Speaker 6: met him at Lehman High School in the Bronx sal.

1915
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 5: When Tago was there.

1916
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: I think so I was. I met me and Diego

1917
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: squadstar Beef at Leaman High School.

1918
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 5: He wasn't performing, he wasn't performing.

1919
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 6: I don't know it was it was.

1920
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: It was a death jam thing.

1921
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 5: Death jam was there?

1922
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, was there there.

1923
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: We got that.

1924
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 5: We got the choppit for a minute. We spoke man

1925
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 5: cool dude.

1926
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 6: Man.

1927
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't know who I was, but you know, he.

1928
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Was so he doesn't sometimes he didn't know what I

1929
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: was and.

1930
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 6: I wasn't there trying to explain it. So I told him,

1931
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 6: you know, I'm showing so from a group and everything.

1932
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 6: He didn't know me.

1933
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I was cool with that.

1934
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, I like your music, I appreciate.

1935
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 6: You man and all that.

1936
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 5: And he was like he wasn't like so stuck up

1937
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 5: when he was man, who you know what I'm saying.

1938
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,560
Speaker 5: I never met donal Ma, but I like Don so

1939
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 5: I would have to go with Donald Marcus.

1940
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you just said this whole made a shot

1941
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: for no reason. No think that.

1942
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 6: The other one.

1943
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: That.

1944
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 5: But let me ask you, I feel like he's more

1945
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 5: of an MC than a artist.

1946
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I do too. I think he's more of a hip

1947
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: hop artist. I believe that he's a victim of his circumstances,

1948
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: meaning like he had to well do certain things.

1949
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 5: Because that's the other thing.

1950
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 3: When I went to I went to Puerto Rico in

1951
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 3: two thousand, right before we had before what he did

1952
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 3: and everything came overy and a lot of those artists

1953
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,480
Speaker 3: were regular.

1954
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Rais mcs, that's what they were, that couldn't.

1955
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 5: Really make inroads, and he started. Look what they stuck

1956
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 5: when they started.

1957
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: What's your man name?

1958
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 5: The producer echo, yeah, echoes man, Yeah.

1959
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 6: When they started. I mean that those with the influences,

1960
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 6: it was MC. And then it evolved into what like

1961
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,440
Speaker 6: these guys want to mixtapes?

1962
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: You know and all that. That's the question I want

1963
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: to ask you, and I know we still have to.

1964
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 6: No, it's not about me.

1965
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: At what point did it become the MC? Because the

1966
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,799
Speaker 1: DJ was the motherfucking man, right.

1967
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 5: Still, the motherfucking man, all right.

1968
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna rightfully, so we love you,

1969
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: we love you as an MC, But when did it

1970
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: become m C coming to the forefront because it was

1971
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: DJ Okay, No one wanted to be a MC.

1972
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 6: And that's that's absolutely accurate. It was all about the DJ.

1973
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 6: What made it the MC was when MC starting, he

1974
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 6: started evolving from just making announcements and just throwing little

1975
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:50,879
Speaker 6: nursery rhymes here and there.

1976
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 5: To promote the DJ, to promote the DJ. The DJ

1977
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 5: Hollywood not not well when I was Hollywood.

1978
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 6: From what I under said, he was already DJ when

1979
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 6: I started, you know, but he I wasn't around those

1980
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,879
Speaker 6: parties or didn't go to those parties. But the DMC

1981
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 6: evolved into something more. He would cast and I'm gonna

1982
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 6: go back to cast. Caz was one of the instrumental

1983
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 6: people who were so gifted that he was telling. They

1984
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 6: called Slick Rick the storyteller, and Cast is the original storyteller.

1985
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 6: You listen, I know about rhymes that you ain't never

1986
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 6: heard that Cas has said when he was a kid,

1987
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 6: and Caz is his mind is he's a genius. Bro.

1988
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 6: Caz had started helping. I wouldn't say he's the first one,

1989
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 6: but I witnessed with my own eyes that evolution when

1990
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 6: I started seeing people like Cas get on the mic

1991
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 6: and started grabbing people's attention with his art, with his skill,

1992
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 6: you know. And the skill was what catapulted the MC

1993
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 6: in front of the DJ, you know, because remember it

1994
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 6: was just starting with the DJ. It was all mechanical

1995
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 6: with the with the bullshit equipment that we had. We

1996
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 6: were doing what we were doing and we were making

1997
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 6: a great job of it.

1998
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 3: It was close to it, you know, but it was

1999
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 3: hand me down stereocrip with bell drive right, terrible bell drive.

2000
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 6: If you weren't able to cut on bell drives, you were.

2001
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 5: Those were my first turn tables, you know what bell drives.

2002
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 5: So that was when happened.

2003
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 6: You know, the DJ, the DJ needed I was shy.

2004
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 6: I was never a microphane person, so I needed a mouthpiece,

2005
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 6: you know, and I was and you know, my first

2006
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 6: time C was Cisco Kid from Beach Street, and so

2007
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 6: you know, that was that was what started it.

2008
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 5: I needed a mouthpiece. Every DJ needed a mouthpiece.

2009
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 6: And then when they were seeing other DJs bring their

2010
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 6: skill up, then that's when it started evolving. And then

2011
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 6: they came to the floor for now because people wanted

2012
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 6: to hear what they wanted to say.

2013
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: You know.

2014
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 3: I remember DJ is the back one because without the

2015
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 3: DJ starting the party, you don't get an m C,

2016
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 3: you don't get b boys and girls dancing on the

2017
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 3: dance floor right. DJ's were the ones that perpetuated the

2018
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: beginning of everything.

2019
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: Mcs came so they was wearing spikes and it was like, yeah,

2020
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: uh huh, charge.

2021
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 3: Shout out the big drink. Who was my miamc My

2022
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 3: first mcane was an artist, you know when I was DJing,

2023
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 3: he was the guy on the microphone in the beginning.

2024
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 3: Him and Weird Thoughts, Paul, I keep.

2025
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: Forgetting, I keep forgetting. Your original name was Weird Thoughts.

2026
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: And then everywhere every time we do Underdog Fantasy, I

2027
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: remember that he is Weird Thoughts, Ellmatic or reasonable Doubt.

2028
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,560
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not familiar with any of

2029
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 5: them too much.

2030
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: Matic is not his first album. And reasonable doubt Jason.

2031
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 6: For me to be honest with you, I haven't heard.

2032
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: So he's saying neither. We're drinking. Yeah, we're drinking.

2033
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 6: He's saying, I'm not gonna lie.

2034
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie, you know, Thank you, James. Okay,

2035
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 5: just for the record, I got you know, I asked

2036
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 5: a lot of these questions you did, and we're almost done,

2037
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 5: and were almost done. Maybe you don't drink King of New.

2038
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: York, what do you do is like we can come

2039
01:36:59,000 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: up with you. Yeah?

2040
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 6: Literally all right.

2041
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 5: Before New Jack City, New Jack City, King of New

2042
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 5: York was with Denzel No.

2043
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 6: It wasn't no no, no, think.

2044
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 5: New Jack City from Walk City, right Walker.

2045
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Right right, all right, I gotta I gotta do this one.

2046
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 5: You go ahead.

2047
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: The fever or Latin quarters fever.

2048
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 5: Brother, I grew up in the fever, man, I grew yo,

2049
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 5: that's what we ever.

2050
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Like your face this little and I feel like there

2051
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: was there for sure. You see his face leaves. I

2052
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: was literally in the fever with.

2053
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 6: You right now?

2054
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 5: You know what the place to go to think about

2055
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 5: this picture?

2056
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: This lot of cocaine at okay, definitely a lot.

2057
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 3: But we got to tell everybody cocaine wasn't crazy back then.

2058
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 6: It was like with a fast drink.

2059
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 5: It was a fashion drug.

2060
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 6: If you had cocaine, you have status energy just.

2061
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Reference before. But it wasn't it wasn't illegal. I'm sorry, sorry,

2062
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: I forgot the question. What was.

2063
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 5: The fever pictured?

2064
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 6: This the fever you got run dmc whodini, Cold Crush,

2065
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 6: Treacher's three Furious five, Curtis Blow sometimes Russell Simmons. After

2066
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 6: they did what we did at the night at at

2067
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 6: the end of the night, I didn't go as offen

2068
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 6: as chasin JDLD, but I go everybody will go there.

2069
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 5: That's where everybody would go and meet and drink and

2070
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 5: talk about.

2071
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 6: The four Stories of the Night or whatever. The fever

2072
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 6: was the place to meet girls and hang on. And

2073
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 6: that was the atmosphere. You know how many said a

2074
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 6: quick story. Ronald Eisley was that right. I'm up against

2075
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 6: the wall by if you know anything about the fever.

2076
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 5: As soon as you walk in, there was a photo

2077
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 5: booth right there in the front, right, so I was.

2078
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 6: I was up against the wall. They're just chilling and

2079
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 6: and I and I go like this, and I'm like,

2080
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 6: there's a cat the baseball hat like this covering his

2081
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 6: eyes right, just like this.

2082
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 5: You can't see he's covering his eyes. But you you

2083
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 5: you Ronald eyes.

2084
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 6: He got that face you cannot mistaken, I say, Ronald,

2085
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 6: and he looked up and goes.

2086
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 5: I said, stop that, brother, this is the fever. Everybody

2087
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 5: here's a celebrity.

2088
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 8: Stopped.

2089
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 6: He was telling me to because of celebrity. Yeah, yo,

2090
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 6: everybody is a celebrity. It's not gonna be on you

2091
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 6: like that. You know, and he was like he wasn't

2092
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 6: having it.

2093
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 5: But true story, we used to have celebrities like that

2094
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 5: that came to the Fever.

2095
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and the Fever turned into Room Boss you're talking.

2096
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 5: About in Treeman Avenue.

2097
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 6: The original Fever was on one hundred and sixty seven Rowl.

2098
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 6: Come on, bro, I know Cetala when he had a

2099
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 6: DA well he was Italian with a DA bro with

2100
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 6: the open shirt and the necklace and all that.

2101
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I did not know that.

2102
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 6: I didn't know Schoomball goes to DJ Yeah, what was

2103
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 6: I forgot the other guy's name. They have some dope

2104
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 6: DJs there.

2105
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Get you ready? Yeah, Bat Boys or the Beastie Boys.

2106
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 5: Beastie Boys.

2107
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 6: I like. I like the BC Boys, you know why

2108
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 6: because I'm a rockhead.

2109
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: I love rock music.

2110
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 5: And when they came out and they were doing what

2111
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 5: they were doing, I ate it.

2112
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 6: Like fruit loops, bro, I just ate the whole thing up.

2113
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 5: Man. When I met them, they they went crazy. It

2114
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 5: wasn't there a synergy.

2115
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 3: And we talked about with Kaz and Flash with rock

2116
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 3: and hip hop at the time, because they were both

2117
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 3: these countercultures right punk rock specifically right.

2118
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 5: CBGB's there was a Chariot downtown.

2119
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, holy shit, and this is the last one

2120
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: for quick Time of Slime to be getting to direct

2121
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,440
Speaker 1: the interview. Loyalty or respect.

2122
01:40:54,080 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 6: Respect, respect, because I've met people that I've never met

2123
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 6: in my life but have showed me more respect than

2124
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 6: a lot of motherfuckers who were loyal to me. Because

2125
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 6: what happens sometimes, and I've experienced, is people are loyal

2126
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 6: to you and after a while they become.

2127
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 5: Too familiar with you and they can be disrespectful, and

2128
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 5: then I got to cut you off.

2129
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 6: Respect people.

2130
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,799
Speaker 5: I've met people that I've met, people.

2131
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 6: I've never seen in my life, and they show me

2132
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 6: instant respectful what I've done their They're kind, respectful, you know,

2133
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 6: they give me They would have to be respect first.

2134
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 5: You ain't got to like me, but you're going to

2135
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 5: respect them.

2136
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: Jesus, that was so great. I'm going to the bathroom.

2137
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: You and I got to say, my friends, win my shirt,

2138
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: give you your shirt and if you ain't got one

2139
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: for e f N, don't feel batter that one.

2140
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 6: For f.

2141
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 5: A folarship. Here you go right here, bro, this is you.

2142
01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 1: Man.

2143
01:41:59,360 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 6: Let me show you.

2144
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, brother p Yeah, please, bro, thank you.

2145
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 5: Man one of the tours and we're going all right.

2146
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 5: I didn't Columbia.

2147
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 6: I didn't bring a whole lot.

2148
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah we're rolling.

2149
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 5: Yeah we rolling.

2150
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: That's right. God damn it. What common sense? And Pete Rock,

2151
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: we donna wear it.

2152
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 5: Don't don't take my style.

2153
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: Don't you don't want you want to be kidding? Play?

2154
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 1: What time?

2155
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 6: What time?

2156
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 1: What cool?

2157
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 5: What you got? What side you wear?

2158
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: No, I know that's not the baby world because I

2159
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: don't know where she is.

2160
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 5: I got it, got.

2161
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2162
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 5: Listen, guys, it is not as a fitting session, guys.

2163
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Charlie Chase. Listen, Charlie Chase. Your shirts are exclusive. You

2164
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 1: don't got to give it to everybody. You can say

2165
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: something brand right now, but these guys are not worthy.

2166
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 5: Only got I got yeah, the jem.

2167
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 6: Shot. He just sounds sports good. That's that's that's my

2168
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 6: gave it to your old friend. Hold on, that's my nephew.

2169
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: That's was just sure. Give it the twin right there,

2170
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: swin right there. You can't can't be that even he doesn't,

2171
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 1: but he he you guys, I got you, I.

2172
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 6: Got you guys.

2173
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: Number that come on that my nephew right there.

2174
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 6: Yes, he's a motivational speakers, has been our shows with

2175
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Speaker 6: Grand Cardoon.

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01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: That's my friend.

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Speaker 5: What was up?

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01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 6: He say, Man, Sean McMurray shot.

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01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: You got shot hip yo. I'm gonna be honest. I

2180
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: know I said it earlier, but I want to say

2181
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 1: it again. I want to thank you as a man,

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01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 1: as a person who has a career hip hop in

2183
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. When I researched you and I

2184
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 1: kept I went in to jap yep and they label

2185
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 1: you as the first Puerto ricand hip hop, and that

2186
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: shit is so vulnerable because I always fight to say

2187
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: that Latinos was there in the beginning and I'm black too,

2188
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: But sometimes I feel like they kind of try to

2189
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: erase that part of history. Not very like, not like

2190
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 1: it's like a bunch of black people around. That's not that.

2191
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is it's become a thing.

2192
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: It's become a thing, has become.

2193
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 5: Can add a little bit of clarity to that.

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01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 6: Okay, Whenever they say I'm the first Puerto Rican and

2195
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 6: hip hop, I understand why they credit it, right, there

2196
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 6: were other Puerto Ricans before me. You know, Kas's Cartner

2197
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 6: Disco Whiz. Unfortunately, you know, he got sidetracked. He had

2198
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 6: in his career early he was there, he was Kas's partner,

2199
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 6: but he was there before I was, you know, with

2200
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 6: Kaz when he was when he first started. Now, they

2201
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 6: credit me with being the first Puerto Rican DJ because

2202
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 6: I was the one who was blessed enough to have enough.

2203
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 5: Talent that that just shot out in front of everybody.

2204
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: You understand, I was the first war well known.

2205
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 6: What I did and represented all people worldwide. Right, you

2206
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 6: understand I'm the first in that ass.

2207
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 5: And as a DJ, which at that time would have catapulted.

2208
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 5: And there were a few of the DJs. They were

2209
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 5: like young from the neighborhood like me, you know, and

2210
01:45:58,960 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 5: they were Hispanic too.

2211
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 6: They just never got all up. They didn't either for

2212
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 6: whatever reason it was. They didn't get out in the

2213
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 6: forefeet like I did. But yeah, I'll take credit in

2214
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 6: that aspect, But to me to be here say that

2215
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 6: I'm the actual first, No, I can't say that. I can't.

2216
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,440
Speaker 5: I got to give the credit where the credits.

2217
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Make some noise for that guy. I know this is

2218
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: a cliche type of question, and I noticed it's gonna

2219
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: make sense, but it might not make sense. Did you

2220
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: ever think that hip hop would make it this far,

2221
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 1: yes or no. I would like to hear you.

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01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 6: At the very beginning, when we were doing it, and

2223
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 6: I knew something was there, but I didn't know what

2224
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 6: it was except that I was just beating a lot

2225
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 6: of chicks.

2226
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2227
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 5: I didn't know.

2228
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 6: You know what was the turning point when I knew,

2229
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,639
Speaker 6: because remember I come from a family of musicians, when rappers,

2230
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 6: the light dropped.

2231
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 5: I said, this is where it's going. This is where

2232
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 5: it's going.

2233
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 6: I knew that it was going to be big because

2234
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 6: now it's on a record for the masses to hear.

2235
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 6: That's when I knew it was going to be big

2236
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 6: because I knew, listen, you had to be where I

2237
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 6: was in the neighborhoods, the way people were inspired. People

2238
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 6: were showing up by the hundreds at freaking school yards

2239
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,799
Speaker 6: till two or three o'clock in the morning, us playing

2240
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 6: two or three o'clock in the morning out there, and

2241
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 6: they were hanging out with us.

2242
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 5: We were We were the superstars in the ghetto. Everywhere

2243
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 5: we walked, man, you know, we were the stars.

2244
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 6: I couldn't go to Ford and Road without people knowing

2245
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 6: who I was, you understand until when rappers the light

2246
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 6: hit that opened the door for Grandmaster flashing them and

2247
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 6: whomoding them and even opened up the doors for us

2248
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 6: in the sense and everybody else that that followed. So yeah,

2249
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 6: I didn't know at first because I didn't see what

2250
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 6: was going on. I never thought about records. But when

2251
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 6: the record dropped and what year was that the recorders

2252
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 6: that I came out?

2253
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 5: Seventy nine?

2254
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just ask just I know this

2255
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: is was that shit called a question that you know

2256
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: the answer to rhetorical? Rhetorical? You don't think hip hop

2257
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: and right invented in Queen's a little Bit.

2258
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 5: Oh, Queens gets massive credit? Are you kidding me?

2259
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2260
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 5: Man, I don't think you heard his question?

2261
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 6: What did a.

2262
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 3: Because do you not think that it got invented in

2263
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 3: Queens a little Bit invented, not invented?

2264
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, that's that's that's that part.

2265
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the part you ain't That's why he Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2266
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: I always credit Shan because Shan says hip hop started out,

2267
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he was saying what he

2268
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: saw in his neighborhood. He not he he never I

2269
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: don't think he ever said that.

2270
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 6: It was.

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01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 5: But did he mean Queen's Bridge Park or did he

2272
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 5: mean he's just saying it started out on the.

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01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 1: Best part for him.

2274
01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 5: I don't we I don't know how much we talked

2275
01:48:59,400 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 5: about that one.

2276
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 6: Maybe you might be looking into it a little bit

2277
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 6: too deep because hip hop bissed on the.

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01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,640
Speaker 3: Parks right now, But that's what I'm saying. No, no, no,

2279
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 3: that's I know. I'm exactly pinpointing be any park. He

2280
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 3: could have just been exclaiming it started out in the park.

2281
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 3: We all know it started out in the park. But

2282
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 3: here's here's what I'm trying to say to you.

2283
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 1: I suppose the first time you ever heard of hip

2284
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 1: hop it was in kind sugar Wood Park, Right, that's

2285
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: a real place, right.

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01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what that's That's a big that's a big

2287
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 5: part of So you.

2288
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: And sugar Wood Jesus, y'all calm down. The first time

2289
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: you ever heard of let's not say hip hop aces great, right,

2290
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: the first time you ever heard of it was in

2291
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: sugar Wood Park. To you, that's what you think it is.

2292
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, isn't a possibility that you think

2293
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: mc shan thought that that hip hop really did event

2294
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: in Queens.

2295
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 5: I don't think he thought that. I don't think because

2296
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 5: it's too far long when he came into the game

2297
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 5: for him to think that.

2298
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 6: But I don't think when he said that he meant

2299
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 6: that it was started. No, because what I mean, it's

2300
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 6: a fact it did start out in the park, you

2301
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But I think it may have

2302
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 6: been a little bit embroiled with the whole chante battle that,

2303
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 6: you know, that might have had something to do with

2304
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 6: what we remember. It was very competitive, you know, so

2305
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 6: if you're gonna talk shit, I'm gonna talk shit, you

2306
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So I don't I don't think.

2307
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 5: I know Shan. I know Shan personally. You know, we're friends.

2308
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 1: We love Shy. He's crazy to follow him Instagram. We

2309
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: produce some records together.

2310
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy because one thing I'm learning, as

2311
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 3: as we get older in this right or anybody, as

2312
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 3: as as the culture gets older, we try we tend

2313
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 3: to compact the history.

2314
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 5: Right and Shan he came out what in the eighties, Yeah, eighties,

2315
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:53,879
Speaker 5: and look.

2316
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 3: How much when he's talking about that, he starts in

2317
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 3: seventy five. But how much happens from seventy five to

2318
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 3: seventy nine that he's talked about that is game changing.

2319
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 3: We don't We're never going to consider that as you

2320
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So that's that's why I think.

2321
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 3: I think Shan knew what he was saying true, But

2322
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 3: I like that they squashed it.

2323
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, you grow up, man, you know, I mean, listen

2324
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 6: us in a fantastic you know anything about the battle?

2325
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 5: You ever throw down? Like throw down, throw down.

2326
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 1: I never got to the body.

2327
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 5: I never used.

2328
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 6: Only a stereotype. I never walked a round with.

2329
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 5: A gun with a knife.

2330
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 3: But no.

2331
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 6: But seriously, Shan, he's he's a creative mind. But like

2332
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 6: what you were saying, you ever hear him on he's crazy,

2333
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 6: but he speaks a lot of he's he's an old

2334
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 6: guy off his rocker, but he's not.

2335
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:55,560
Speaker 3: He's not.

2336
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 5: Exactly what he's saying is what confuses you.

2337
01:51:59,360 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 8: But he's.

2338
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 6: So we can hear exactly what you're saying.

2339
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 5: And tears cry when he got his new set of teeth.

2340
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 1: Was just.

2341
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 5: Sh is on point man.

2342
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's, he's he's a deep thinker

2343
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 6: in a different way.

2344
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. The thing with him is like, man,

2345
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 5: fuck yo, this is what it is, you know, like

2346
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 5: a good your olf whatever, you know, that attitude?

2347
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah.

2348
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: Have you ever been at one point? For me? I

2349
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: just lost my love for hip hop?

2350
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 8: Right?

2351
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 1: It was just I'm lying. I didn't lose my love.

2352
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: I lost I lost what everyone was chasing. Everyone started

2353
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: to chase a certain dream. That wasn't it Like for me,

2354
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: you have to be nice, you have to be good

2355
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: at your craft, and and that's what it is. And

2356
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: now it's just about sometimes chasing money. Don't get it twisted.

2357
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I like some money, of course, but then I also

2358
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: like my craft.

2359
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 6: Right.

2360
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where you fro like

2361
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: fuck hip hop?

2362
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 6: Sometimes? I feel like that. Now, I'll be honest with you,

2363
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 6: because I love hip hop. Hip hop is my life.

2364
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I'm one of the I helped

2365
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 6: create them, your foundation, you know, I'm part of the evolution,

2366
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 6: you know. So it's really it's really deep to me.

2367
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 6: And and I see what you're saying. They don't take

2368
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 6: it as an art anymore. Now, it's just the way

2369
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 6: to get a bag, you know what I'm saying. And

2370
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 6: you lose a lot when you when that's all that's

2371
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 6: on your mind, that's all you are. So I compare

2372
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 6: these people to like, like like the Olympics. You got

2373
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 6: your marathon runners and you got your sprinters. Marathon runners

2374
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 6: continue for decades and decades and decades. Then you got

2375
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 6: these guys that's just sprinters. They might last a year, two,

2376
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 6: maybe three, and then they're their career is gone. That's

2377
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 6: how that is with these guys. You understand what I'm saying.

2378
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 6: So listen, think about this for a second. There hasn't

2379
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 6: been a number one charting record on Billboard fall on

2380
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 6: Billboard for almost two years.

2381
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 5: Now until right now with the Kendricks does Okay, So

2382
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 5: look aw long it.

2383
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: Took based on negativity too good?

2384
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 6: Right, that's crazy, that's truth and it's crazy. But think

2385
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 6: about that for a second.

2386
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 5: Hip hop was.

2387
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 6: Always commanding on the number one spider and all of

2388
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 6: a sudden it's not you know what changed. I think

2389
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 6: it was that people weren't respecting the art anymore. Now

2390
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 6: it's just a way to make money now. Trickley and

2391
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 6: I had a conversation one day about this force and

2392
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 6: and we came up to the conclusion and it was

2393
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 6: there was a time when my time, and a few

2394
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 6: other people's time, like like your time, you had interest

2395
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 6: in something, you studied it, you started practicing, you started practicing,

2396
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 6: you became brave enough to take it out to the public,

2397
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 6: to your family, to your friends. After that, you were

2398
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 6: brave enough to take it to the public. You did

2399
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 6: what you did, and then you were brave enough to

2400
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 6: take it to a record and do what you did.

2401
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 6: Now you make a record, and then you go back

2402
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 6: to trying to be and m C. That's crazy. It

2403
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 6: sounds crazy, but it's a fact, you know, And and

2404
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 6: and that's what that's where we're at right now. And

2405
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 6: it kills me because it's like, I don't I don't

2406
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 6: even want to produce hip hop records anymore. And now

2407
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 6: I'm looking more to doing stuff with movies and stuff

2408
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 6: like that. I'm actually right now producing a remake of

2409
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 6: a ela for uh uh uh uh uh, an analyist Grace,

2410
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 6: she said, a Grammy nominated art, Latin Grammy nominated artist.

2411
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 6: She's got an album coming out, and now I'm doing

2412
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 6: a remix for her for I Wan, which is coming

2413
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 6: out right before the Puerto Rican DA Parade, you know.

2414
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 5: So I'm getting more too.

2415
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 6: I've always liked different kinds of music's anyway, music anyway,

2416
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 6: so it's natural for me to just switch up and

2417
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 6: do what I gotta do. Hey, I produced Latin Freestyle.

2418
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 6: I had Trilogy, a group that was a hit for years.

2419
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 6: I wrote that Latin Love You Make Yeah, I wrote

2420
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 6: that with seeing all the guy who wrote the lyrics.

2421
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 6: I wrote all the music Amaretto clave Rocks. That was

2422
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 6: another big record. I was the producer. I didn't get

2423
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 6: producer I didn't get producer credit out of They only

2424
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 6: gave me mixing credit. But truth be told, I'm the

2425
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 6: reason why that record even exists. So it wasn't a

2426
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 6: problem for me to always switch gears and go another direction.

2427
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 6: But you're right, man, But you're right. What you're saying,

2428
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 6: what that you know hip hop? Right now?

2429
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 5: You feel a little jaded about it.

2430
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: It's like it's not the same I do because I

2431
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: love this culture like I love the I just told you.

2432
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Carusen made two of the worst records of my child history,

2433
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: and he's still my favorite rapper. Yeah, because I couldn't.

2434
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 6: Because you know what he's about. You know, he's not phony.

2435
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 6: Everybody's allowed to miss not everybody's gonna have a hit.

2436
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 6: Everybody's allowed a hit or two. That's that's just the

2437
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 6: nature of the game. But in your heart, you know

2438
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 6: where he comes from, you know where his heart is,

2439
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 6: so you respect that, and he's always going to be

2440
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 6: one of your favorites, you know.

2441
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 5: And I respect that because you're seeing it for what

2442
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 5: it really is, for what it really is.

2443
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 1: You know, who's your favorite Puerto Rican artist?

2444
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 5: Puerto Rican artist?

2445
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: You go racist? Right now?

2446
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 5: Okay, well, let's go racist nobody.

2447
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 6: If I would have to pick a Puerto Rican artist,

2448
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be out of it.

2449
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 5: It would be Mark Anthony.

2450
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: I was going, heck the Love, all right?

2451
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 5: He the Love is classic.

2452
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 6: I grew up on Hector.

2453
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 5: But Mark Anthony is my friend.

2454
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh damn, all right?

2455
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 5: What about that man?

2456
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The percussion brother, the percussion.

2457
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. You know what I noticed. You're

2458
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: a lawyalty. Yes, yeah, you based your answers based upon

2459
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 1: who you knew, how your relationships is and when I

2460
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 1: when I you know, we've been doing.

2461
01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 5: This for eight years, right, going, no, going on to

2462
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 5: nine years now.

2463
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 1: Jesus, we are old like that. You're gonna get yourself

2464
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:55,839
Speaker 1: time just trying.

2465
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 6: To get you.

2466
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rewinding my time. So that is fucking How

2467
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 1: can I put this in a nice way and the

2468
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: best best way? That is fucking awesome, because I mean

2469
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 1: that's how I am. I'm loyal, but some people tell

2470
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: me I'm loyal to the fault. Has that ever been

2471
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: a problem for.

2472
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 5: You, like, let me take some of these knaves off

2473
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 5: my back?

2474
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, no doubt. You know, people have taken advantage

2475
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 6: of my loyalty. You know, I've helped people make money,

2476
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 6: I've helped people get established and and I've gotten I'm

2477
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 6: not going to mention even you know, I'm going to

2478
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 6: get into it, but you know, yeah, of course, man,

2479
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 6: but you know what it is. I'm I wouldn't say loyal.

2480
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 6: I always say respectful to these people, and I love them,

2481
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 6: you know why, because I see where they come from

2482
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 6: with what they're doing.

2483
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 5: You understand, they're true to this. They like this.

2484
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 6: They respect the art, you know, and if you respect

2485
01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 6: the art and you're giving it all and you're making

2486
01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 6: you've got results.

2487
01:58:59,200 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 5: I gotta respect you.

2488
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: I love you for that.

2489
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 5: I'm always going to show loyalty to you for that

2490
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 5: you know.

2491
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: So now I can see that in you. Man, I

2492
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: can see because I know he suffers from the same thing.

2493
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 6: Ain't nothing wrong with that.

2494
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: I suffer from the same thing. It's just like sometimes

2495
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't say no, and I can't say no. The

2496
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: reason why I seldomly go to New York because my

2497
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 1: number is the same. So the same bozo asshole motherfucker's

2498
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: called me I still pick up right, and that's a flaw. Right,

2499
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. I'm not saying you're an idiot or

2500
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 1: you're an idiot, but what I'm saying is being loyal

2501
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: to people who's not loyal to the makes you makes you?

2502
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: Makes you?

2503
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2504
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: You do you regret that? Or would you do it

2505
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 1: all over?

2506
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 5: I regret it.

2507
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 6: If I regret it, that's me holding that poison inside.

2508
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 6: So I choose not to regret it because it's like

2509
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 6: to me, I'll just take it as a learning experience

2510
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 6: and I now I know for next time to see

2511
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 6: the signs and avoid it. You know, I'm not gonna

2512
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 6: lie to you. Yeah, at one point, I was mad

2513
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 6: like a motherfucker, you know hip hop or at the

2514
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 6: people who did that to me.

2515
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 5: I was mad for a long time hurt, you know,

2516
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 5: and and and that was.

2517
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 6: Part of the reason why I was addicted to drugs

2518
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 6: for so long, with cocaine for so long, because I

2519
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 6: was that was the thing that was pacifying that hurt.

2520
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 6: But you know, after years and years and years, I

2521
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 6: learned a let it go, bro. It ain't worth it.

2522
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 6: It worth it because at the end of the day,

2523
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 6: you're the one loses, not them.

2524
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, What are you gonna do?

2525
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 5: You ain't They're not going to change there all day?

2526
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 5: Are they did?

2527
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 6: What did did you get? So move on? I listen.

2528
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 5: I could be mad right now about a whole region ship,

2529
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 5: but I'm not.

2530
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: Right now.

2531
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 6: I've got too many positive people around me right now,

2532
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 6: I've got too many great things are about to happen

2533
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 6: for me.

2534
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 5: Man, I gotta look forward. Let us you have to talk.

2535
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 3: I want to go back on legacy, and we haven't

2536
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 3: touched much on the Cold Crush. Give us the beginnings

2537
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 3: of Cold Crush. How does this all evolve? How does

2538
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 3: this happen?

2539
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 5: Because this is such a monumental group for everything hip hop.

2540
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 5: The Cold Crush was something that Tony Tone and I created.

2541
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 6: Now let's go back.

2542
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:33,400
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I got my flyes, my

2543
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 5: show and Tael flies right, let's go.

2544
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 6: There were three versions, two or three versions of the

2545
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 6: Colcus before two other versions before the final version that

2546
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 6: you know now, the Cold Curse.

2547
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:45,240
Speaker 5: Right, and you're one of the founding members of Yes

2548
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 5: to cret So Tony Tone.

2549
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 6: I had met Tony Tone because one of the MC's

2550
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 6: which was RC and my crew, went to South Bronx

2551
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 6: High School. Tony went to South Bronx High School. RC

2552
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 6: told him about me, Yo, this DJA is nice, this

2553
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 6: Puerto Rican is nice. Under one and two, Tony was

2554
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 6: looking to create a crew. Tony was with Breakout, so

2555
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 6: he met He told him. He told ill, Yo, tell

2556
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 6: him I want to meet him. He says sure, I said,

2557
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 6: She'll bring him by. I met Tony Tone. We became friends.

2558
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 6: He got down with my crew for a little bit.

2559
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 6: I mean I got flyers where he was djaying, he

2560
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 6: was he was hanging out with us. So I always

2561
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 6: considered he got down with me because we were we

2562
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 6: were close. Listen, Tony Tone is the godfather my daughter.

2563
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 6: He was my best man at my first wedding. You

2564
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:33,879
Speaker 6: know what I was saying, that's that's my brother, you understand.

2565
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 6: Me and Tony Tone got Mad Roots and Mad Love

2566
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 6: together from the beginning. So Tony Tone had this vision

2567
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 6: to create a crew. He came on with me and

2568
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 6: we were trying to work things out, you know, because

2569
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 6: he had ideas. I had this, but I already had

2570
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 6: a crew with MC's right, So the crew that I

2571
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 6: had at the time, with the MC's fly I'm showing.

2572
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 5: You this accomplished camera or whatever he wanted.

2573
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Okay, this was uh to show you.

2574
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 5: If you see the top of the flyer, right, it

2575
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 5: says Disco Tech Productions. That was the company that we had. Me,

2576
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 5: Tom and Jerry had that company.

2577
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Disco Tech Productions, Disco Tech Productions and Kevin Epps Presents DJ,

2578
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:17,919
Speaker 1: Charlie Chase, DJ, Tony Tone DJ. Look at the MC's

2579
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 1: read them Mighty Mike h MCS almost read cat Dota

2580
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 1: rockn Rock, MC t e z A d Whipper wher

2581
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:40,600
Speaker 1: whipper Whip. I feel like that's your cousin. Also the

2582
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 1: brothers DJ's mean Green, Mean Gene, mean.

2583
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 5: G They that Theodore's brother.

2584
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 1: Cordial Cordial Grand Master Wizard, Theodore, Robbie, Rob Kevy, cav

2585
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 1: Busy be Star skiing at right.

2586
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 6: Now, what I wanted you to realize was that the

2587
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 6: mcs that were down with me was Dot a Rock

2588
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 6: and whipper Whip. They were Fantastic five. They were with me.

2589
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 5: They were kazz As mcs.

2590
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 6: They got a lot of a lot of MC's left

2591
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 6: cas and this then somehow got hooked up with me,

2592
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 6: so that we came with me. Now this was pree

2593
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 6: col curse, right. So then we decided that we were

2594
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 6: Tony Tony and I.

2595
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 5: Tony tone was the one who came up with the

2596
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 5: name the Cold Crush.

2597
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 6: And I remember when he walked to me and he

2598
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 6: said we were I was at this Pinjoint Pinball Spot

2599
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 6: grocery for Miles. It was a winter and he says,

2600
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 6: we would looking to create a cool he says, yo.

2601
02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 6: He says, I got the name of the crew. That

2602
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 6: I got the name that I want to name the crew.

2603
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 6: And there was a flyer with red lettering that says

2604
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 6: this is another Cold Crush product. That was the advertisement

2605
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 6: on the flyer. Right advertising, So a show. It was

2606
02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 6: a show another by some other people I didn't know

2607
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 6: at this They said another Cold Crushed product.

2608
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 5: He says, I want to call it the Cold Crush Crew.

2609
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 6: You just no. It was all they were expressing. It

2610
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 6: was a cold Crush product. They were Cold Cursse Crew.

2611
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:16,760
Speaker 6: So I said, I liked that name. I said, what

2612
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 6: if we formed this group, We're going to be like family.

2613
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 6: So we're going to call it the Cold Crush Brothers.

2614
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 6: And he said, I like that.

2615
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 5: We're rolling with that.

2616
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 11: So then at the time you'll see here, you'll see

2617
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 11: where did you say cold Crush? Here it says col

2618
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:39,480
Speaker 11: Qush somewhere. You got your notes right down at very top.

2619
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,879
Speaker 11: I'm Donald Rock Aware, Cold.

2620
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 1: Crush Brothers, Cold Crush Brothers, Charlie Chase, Tony Tonge, Mikey

2621
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: Bike November thirtieth, Cold Crush four MC's right, T boone.

2622
02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 9: T bone right, Donald Rock right, easy a D right

2623
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 9: and whip whipp whip whip Wi right to break out

2624
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 9: and the DJ breakout.

2625
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:12,080
Speaker 6: He was coming that night, right. So that was the

2626
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:14,760
Speaker 6: first version of the Coal Chust Brothers right there, right

2627
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 6: before that, this was me.

2628
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:16,880
Speaker 1: And the crew.

2629
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 6: This is before the cold This is just me before

2630
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 6: Tony copies copies.

2631
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 1: I got goosebumps this whole time.

2632
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 6: This is me before Tony Throne came into the picture.

2633
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 6: Just me and and these m cs that I have

2634
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 6: for now. If you know Cisco, Cisco was in the

2635
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 6: movie Beach Street. He was the m C that was

2636
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:41,880
Speaker 6: that was rhyming when the female DJ was cutting Wanda

2637
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 6: d That was Cisco who lived in the projects right

2638
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 6: across the street from me.

2639
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 5: And he was my first MC. And he was the

2640
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 5: one who put these fliers together. He was a flyer maker.

2641
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 5: He was an artist. He went to art and design

2642
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 5: and he was a supreme artist.

2643
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 1: Art design and man. Okay, but by the way, I'm

2644
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 1: so sorry I kept handing him back the flyers. I

2645
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,280
Speaker 1: knew you wanted to look at the fly now, I

2646
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 1: apologize that should have passed. I'm sorry that that was

2647
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: not that was not good the fans.

2648
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 6: Here, I'm gonna say this has been said before, but

2649
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 6: this is it's true. Right, So we the reason the

2650
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 6: cold Course came to be was because I was always

2651
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 6: belliating about the mcson what they weren't as good as

2652
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 6: I wanted them to be. And Tony tom my brother,

2653
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 6: was like, all right, so let's have an audition. And

2654
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:35,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, great, let's have an audition. We had an audition.

2655
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 6: That's South balk High School. Now mind you, for years

2656
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 6: I was trying to get cast and come on board,

2657
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 6: you know, and he was like, nah, I got a crew.

2658
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:46,560
Speaker 6: I'm doing this and doing that and doing this. So

2659
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 6: when we were having the auditions, I'm like, I gotta

2660
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 6: get cast on this crew, right, So I said cash

2661
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 6: Tony Tone was the one that called him to come

2662
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 6: down to the audition, to come down, and I said,

2663
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 6: tell him that I need help picking out the mcs

2664
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 6: for my crew, and he's the expert. What I really

2665
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 6: wanted to do was so real, I mean right, So

2666
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 6: we went down. I picked A d was already down

2667
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 6: because he was Tony's friend. KG was the one that

2668
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 6: we picked from the from the audition because you know,

2669
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 6: KG had that booming voice.

2670
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 5: Kaz and jd O show up right. We picked Ideo.

2671
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 5: We could we KG.

2672
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 6: We couldn't really find anybody else, so we had that.

2673
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 6: So I said, Cass, now this is me and my scheming.

2674
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 6: I said, Cass, do me a favor. Let's test out

2675
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 6: the MC's going down the mic. We got four mics

2676
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 6: someone high school. Let's test out the vibe to see

2677
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 6: how these guy can hang way they get up there,

2678
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 6: and I'm like, in the fact, my fiendish plot is working.

2679
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 6: You know, they go in the MC and they and

2680
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 6: they and they're gelling. They're sounding really great. Cast comes

2681
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 6: back right, So I said, so, Cass, what do you

2682
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 6: think like that? I said, listen, man, that's when I

2683
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 6: I put him into a corner.

2684
02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 5: You say, you won't remember this, but all my children,

2685
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 5: I will swear this sack of bibles.

2686
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 6: The conversation went this way. I said, I'm Cast. I'm like,

2687
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 6: you know, I've been wanting you to get down for

2688
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 6: years now. I'm like, you see what I got. I said,

2689
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 6: I'm telling you I have a vision I am going

2690
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:19,800
Speaker 6: to make. Why know that if you get down, we

2691
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,760
Speaker 6: are going to be the biggest ship to ever hit.

2692
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 6: What we're doing right now, we are going to eat

2693
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:27,520
Speaker 6: bigger than anything. I said, all you have to do

2694
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 6: is agreed to trust me. And he thought about that

2695
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 6: shit right. He thought about it, and he said, I'll

2696
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,040
Speaker 6: do it, but JDL gotta be down. I said no.

2697
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 5: I said, I don't want JDL don.

2698
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:42,600
Speaker 6: Because JDL had a red reputation. He's trouble. I don't

2699
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 6: want to me. He said, Well, if JD l ain't down,

2700
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 6: he goes a loyalty JD l ain't down. Then I

2701
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 6: ain't down, and I was like cast of that to me.

2702
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 6: So I said like, fuck it, man, you know I

2703
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 6: want you this bad. Let's do this.

2704
02:09:58,640 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 5: Cole Christ is born that day.

2705
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 6: Wow. That was now now now a smoke now, So

2706
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 6: now the fun The part was that I had the

2707
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 6: original crew, but I didn't know how to tell the

2708
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 6: old crew that they were hired.

2709
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 5: So now I have two crews and I'm trying to

2710
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 5: figure this out, me and Tony. Like Tony's like, Tony

2711
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,360
Speaker 5: lifted on me. You gotta tell him, this is what

2712
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 5: you wanted.

2713
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 6: You gotta tell him.

2714
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn whatever.

2715
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 6: Fuck. Luckily got a rock and whip a whip had

2716
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:39,080
Speaker 6: decided to leave the crew because they went with Fantastic five,

2717
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,640
Speaker 6: which was cool. And then I had to finally tell

2718
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 6: Teddy and t Bowe, Yo, you know, sorry guys, but

2719
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 6: I'm forming a new crew and this this and that,

2720
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,760
Speaker 6: and you know they they handled it well, they under

2721
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 6: like man, you know, And that was it, and that

2722
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 6: was when the Cold Quest was born and the rest

2723
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 6: is history. Man. But let me tell you, I give

2724
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 6: credits to my brother Tony Tone because Tony Tone, he

2725
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:08,960
Speaker 6: saw the talent that I had. He saw what I

2726
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 6: could do, and he was like, you need a push,

2727
02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:13,360
Speaker 6: and he gave me the push I needed. He introduced

2728
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 6: me to everybody, you know, and that's how I got

2729
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 6: accepted from the from the rest.

2730
02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:17,640
Speaker 5: Of the community.

2731
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 6: You know, I already knew we were. I was already

2732
02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:23,960
Speaker 6: as far as our concern, I was in the culture already,

2733
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:25,520
Speaker 6: all because I was doing what I was doing.

2734
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,000
Speaker 5: I had fans and all that. And what year was this?

2735
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 3: That this all when you guys finally formed the crew

2736
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 3: seventy nine I think it was nine, and then this

2737
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 3: you guys were in this one?

2738
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 5: What you whilst I was I think was eighty one

2739
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:43,160
Speaker 5: or eighty three. I'm brew yeah, yeah. How do you

2740
02:11:43,240 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 5: think we got into the movie?

2741
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: We were Well.

2742
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:48,600
Speaker 6: The funny thing was was that we weren't supposed to

2743
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 6: be in the on tour and in the movie. No,

2744
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 6: we were supposed to be in the movie, but the

2745
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 6: people who were originally supposed to go on a tour

2746
02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 6: with the Fantastic Five in theoore, but they had a

2747
02:11:57,680 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 6: falling out and then they brought us up and the

2748
02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 6: rest is.

2749
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 3: History, and and and so tell us a little bit

2750
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:08,400
Speaker 3: behind the scenes of this as far as uh like

2751
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 3: just like them step into you and then actually filming

2752
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 3: that scene.

2753
02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 1: With right right.

2754
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 5: The funny thing was like, we're gonna go film a

2755
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:17,680
Speaker 5: movie about hip hop and stuff like that. In my mind,

2756
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 5: I'm the music the musician kicked in. I'm showing up

2757
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:26,200
Speaker 5: to the shooting in a suit and the ship and like,

2758
02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 5: what the fuck you doing?

2759
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:29,160
Speaker 6: So if you look in the on the scene where

2760
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:30,800
Speaker 6: I'm in the Dixie cut when the group, you see

2761
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 6: that I have a shirt on with some slacks and stuff.

2762
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:35,960
Speaker 5: You do that because I was stupid.

2763
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 1: I didn't freaking it together.

2764
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:39,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, there's a movie. I gotta show up

2765
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:40,640
Speaker 5: and look fine.

2766
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 1: And dude, I was rude to all this. I didn't know.

2767
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,840
Speaker 5: I was like, right, I'm keeping it real. I didn't

2768
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 5: know what the hell I was doing, you know.

2769
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:50,800
Speaker 6: So if you see in the movie, I got a

2770
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 6: shirt on, I got slacks and stuff, and you know,

2771
02:12:53,600 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 6: had to kind of make it hip hop. They threw

2772
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 6: these these these studs on my wrists I was cutting

2773
02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:01,080
Speaker 6: and you'll see it in the movie. Yeah, the movie

2774
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:04,080
Speaker 6: was shot. It was it was a low, low budget movie.

2775
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 6: We did ship off the cuff. We this ship off

2776
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:10,160
Speaker 6: the cuff right there, that basketball scene. But you're spitting too, Yeah,

2777
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 6: the basketball scene. We were We wrote all that ship

2778
02:13:13,600 --> 02:13:15,320
Speaker 6: on the spot. I didn't even have a lot of Cass,

2779
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:16,840
Speaker 6: I need help. I don't know what to say. Kaz

2780
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:17,640
Speaker 6: wrote that line.

2781
02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 5: For me, But were you doing that regularly?

2782
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 1: Spitting?

2783
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 6: No? I could.

2784
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:23,640
Speaker 5: I knew I could rhyme, but I never read it.

2785
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 5: It was just for the movie.

2786
02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 6: That was just for the movie. If you listen to

2787
02:13:27,120 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 6: Heartbreakers another record, I'm rhyming on that with Tony toone,

2788
02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 6: you know. So, I mean if I if I ever

2789
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 6: real if I really wanted to push it, I could

2790
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 6: have pushed it in Charney and probably become an MC.

2791
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:39,040
Speaker 5: But I felt out of play man.

2792
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:41,160
Speaker 6: When you're around Graham as the cas, you feel this

2793
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:42,840
Speaker 6: big when you're trying to do what he does, you

2794
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:43,040
Speaker 6: know what.

2795
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 5: I'm saying, And rightfully so. So I was happy with

2796
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 5: what I was doing. This.

2797
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 6: The the motivating, the mode of the engine, the power

2798
02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:56,600
Speaker 6: behind a cold course was me and Cass, you know

2799
02:13:56,640 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, as a genius as g and me

2800
02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 6: on the past and me on the turntables, and I

2801
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:06,480
Speaker 6: was also the producer and making we we had had

2802
02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 6: the musical background. Cas was a natural.

2803
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 5: He just had natural showmanship in him.

2804
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 6: And that's that. Bro.

2805
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 1: How did you feel when you heard the hip hop

2806
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:18,400
Speaker 1: finally got accepted in the Olympics.

2807
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 6: I was, see, you gotta really think? I was like, Yo,

2808
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:26,480
Speaker 6: that's dope, it's dope. But then I also knew it

2809
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 6: was like it ain't gonna be what people think it's

2810
02:14:28,280 --> 02:14:30,680
Speaker 6: gonna be. And you'll see what I'm saying. Hip hop

2811
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:36,600
Speaker 6: breakdancing is now a form of competition and the but

2812
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:39,280
Speaker 6: it's gonna be stiff and rigid. In other words, it's

2813
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,120
Speaker 6: not going to be a DJ cut with guys them

2814
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:44,360
Speaker 6: seeing no. Like like gymnastics, you have to meet a

2815
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:48,720
Speaker 6: certain uh qualification. You have to qualification, you have to

2816
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 6: benchmarks that you have to hear. So they're gonna, okay

2817
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:53,680
Speaker 6: require now coming up as a backspin.

2818
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:55,880
Speaker 5: You know, like it's gonna be that's what you're going

2819
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:57,720
Speaker 5: to hear, triple.

2820
02:14:57,440 --> 02:15:00,879
Speaker 1: Backspin, Okay, you know definitely Looking.

2821
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 5: Now, he's going to turtle walk and he's going to

2822
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:02,880
Speaker 5: go you.

2823
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 6: Know, it's like that's what's going to happen, and people

2824
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 6: are expecting to see this whole I'm telling you that's

2825
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:09,040
Speaker 6: what it's going to be, because that's what the Olympics.

2826
02:15:09,320 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 6: But baby steps, Hey, we got in. You gotta be

2827
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 6: happy about it, you know. So I tell people look

2828
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 6: at your expectations too, because it's not going to be

2829
02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:19,120
Speaker 6: what it is. But my expectation is way hot, right,

2830
02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 6: and minus too because I know what the future.

2831
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:23,760
Speaker 1: Whole Crazy Legs came here the next week, there's like

2832
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 1: crazy Legs not a part of it no more.

2833
02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 5: Right, Well, because the people in France all run the.

2834
02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:33,720
Speaker 1: One running and they're worried crazy well.

2835
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:35,360
Speaker 5: He said, they're worried.

2836
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:38,640
Speaker 3: About that the people that are going to be be

2837
02:15:38,720 --> 02:15:41,480
Speaker 3: able to participate, or the athletes that are going to

2838
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 3: be able to participate, are going to be parents that

2839
02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:45,360
Speaker 3: can afford to send their kids.

2840
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:48,000
Speaker 1: Now this is a rich thing, you know.

2841
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:51,880
Speaker 3: Just think about it though, Like the athletes that become Olympians,

2842
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:55,720
Speaker 3: for the most part, are people that either have the

2843
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:59,040
Speaker 3: finances to send their kids to train the way they trade.

2844
02:15:59,120 --> 02:16:00,880
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, and he's That's what I think

2845
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 3: crazy Legs is worried about for for the breakdancing community

2846
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,839
Speaker 3: that's gonna it's gonna take it away from its origid

2847
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 3: origins and then people are just gonna like, you know,

2848
02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 3: parents will be like, oh, this is an Olympic sport, Okay,

2849
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:16,280
Speaker 3: I'll put Jimmy into you know, Olympic breaks.

2850
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,360
Speaker 6: Sponsors because you have sponsors and stuff like that. So yeah,

2851
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 6: he's right. He has every right to feel it because

2852
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:23,320
Speaker 6: that's what it's gonna be, because it's like that with

2853
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 6: every other sports. Gymnastics, ice, skating, all that stuff, they

2854
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:28,959
Speaker 6: all fall under. They all have to meet those parameters.

2855
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,920
Speaker 6: You gotta have a sponsor, you gotta have training, you

2856
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:32,960
Speaker 6: gotta be accepted into a team, you know.

2857
02:16:33,240 --> 02:16:38,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, let me ask you, do you like

2858
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:39,600
Speaker 1: hip hop awards?

2859
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 6: I like hip hop awards with you.

2860
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 1: Be honest?

2861
02:16:45,360 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 5: Is there a real hip hop?

2862
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:48,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest when they're real? I like him?

2863
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:48,720
Speaker 5: What's the real one?

2864
02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:49,560
Speaker 1: The way you just.

2865
02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:53,880
Speaker 5: Well, because think about it.

2866
02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,800
Speaker 6: Right now, they're awarding people for record sales and and

2867
02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 6: like a lot of times people are getting awarded for

2868
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:02,640
Speaker 6: record sales, like the Grammys. I have no I'm not

2869
02:17:02,879 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 6: dissing the Grammys, but sometimes it's like, why did this

2870
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:09,080
Speaker 6: guy get a Grammy over this guy when this guy

2871
02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:11,960
Speaker 6: got way better skill than he's done. His album was

2872
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:14,360
Speaker 6: more than this, this and that. So to me, it's

2873
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:18,560
Speaker 6: more based on sales and and and and stuff like that. Yeah,

2874
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:21,880
Speaker 6: it's a little frustrating when you see like and also

2875
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:24,960
Speaker 6: you know, we had a fight for our respective Remember

2876
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:27,840
Speaker 6: when Jazzy Jeffer and Fresh Prince got there, they.

2877
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:29,840
Speaker 5: Didn't even get they weren't even at on TV.

2878
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:32,160
Speaker 1: It was kind of booed right when there. That's why

2879
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 1: it was boycotted. Boycotted because they wasn't considered Jazzy jeffin

2880
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 1: first Prince at that time wasn't even considered real hip hop,

2881
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:41,199
Speaker 1: right because the people that did because he was commercial

2882
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:42,920
Speaker 1: and again remember was speaking about it.

2883
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:47,600
Speaker 3: It was us judging us right, right, But they boycotted

2884
02:17:47,600 --> 02:17:50,560
Speaker 3: it on behalf of they are they were real hip hop.

2885
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:54,640
Speaker 1: And then boycotted it after afterwards. Right And by the way,

2886
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,440
Speaker 1: I boycotted with them, and I wasn't even nominated. I

2887
02:17:57,480 --> 02:18:00,840
Speaker 1: think you weren't even born about with Jay No no,

2888
02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:05,280
Speaker 1: because there was a real thing, Dame j j No, No,

2889
02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:06,960
Speaker 1: that was a real thing. They was like, we're not

2890
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:11,280
Speaker 1: going and I didn't go. But I don't know.

2891
02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 5: Listen, man, somebody had a break down ceiling.

2892
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:18,120
Speaker 1: Do you think it should be a Hip Hop Awards,

2893
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:21,400
Speaker 1: and if there is one, would you be the person

2894
02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:22,560
Speaker 1: to lend that.

2895
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:26,080
Speaker 6: I would love to if they would ask me for that,

2896
02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:30,879
Speaker 6: no doubt. I'm gonna be honest with you. I feel

2897
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:40,120
Speaker 6: that the co Cours Brothers belongs in the I mean, listen,

2898
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:43,440
Speaker 6: every successful MC that I've met, platinum selling or whatever,

2899
02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 6: they always say, you guys are the reason I'm doing

2900
02:18:47,480 --> 02:18:51,120
Speaker 6: what I'm doing because we followed you have followed you,

2901
02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:55,119
Speaker 6: you know, And to hear that and then it's it's

2902
02:18:55,440 --> 02:18:56,360
Speaker 6: it makes me feel good.

2903
02:18:56,440 --> 02:18:59,800
Speaker 5: But it's like I think they would look, we don't

2904
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:00,240
Speaker 5: get me.

2905
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:04,400
Speaker 6: Hope that wouldn't hurt got accepted, okay to Rock and

2906
02:19:04,480 --> 02:19:06,840
Speaker 6: Roll Hall of Fair Yes, and now I'm like, okay,

2907
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:09,440
Speaker 6: we have a chance. I'm not in the crew anymore,

2908
02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:12,840
Speaker 6: but I earned my spot in that because I wish

2909
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:18,960
Speaker 6: those are my brothers alone to death.

2910
02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:22,800
Speaker 5: And you consider yourself not being cold crush anymore.

2911
02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:24,440
Speaker 1: In my heart, I am.

2912
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm not.

2913
02:19:25,560 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 5: I'm not part of the show. I quit the crew,

2914
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:29,240
Speaker 5: but you started the crew.

2915
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:32,320
Speaker 6: So I feel that I deserve any accolades like the

2916
02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:34,960
Speaker 6: Rock and Roll ho fing because I helped put that

2917
02:19:35,440 --> 02:19:36,199
Speaker 6: our goog.

2918
02:19:37,520 --> 02:19:39,160
Speaker 5: I didn't leave because I was mad.

2919
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:40,120
Speaker 1: I left.

2920
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:44,400
Speaker 6: I didn't leave because I was watching you. I left

2921
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 6: because I felt the group was being stagnant. They were

2922
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:50,280
Speaker 6: too complacent. They were happy with what we did when

2923
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:52,440
Speaker 6: I knew we could have done much better, much more,

2924
02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:55,160
Speaker 6: and I decided I can't do this with Joe, so

2925
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:55,840
Speaker 6: I gotta go out.

2926
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, any accolades Cold Crush get you have to

2927
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:00,920
Speaker 3: be a part of it, just like how when NWA

2928
02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:03,440
Speaker 3: and Ice Cube reached out to DC to be a

2929
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:06,040
Speaker 3: part of it when they got inducted. They were like, yo,

2930
02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:08,560
Speaker 3: people don't don't consider don't think of you as n

2931
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:10,240
Speaker 3: w A, but you are NWAS.

2932
02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 5: You're coming through and you are a founding member.

2933
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:15,520
Speaker 6: And I'm always feel part of the Cold Course regardless

2934
02:20:15,560 --> 02:20:18,640
Speaker 6: of what I you know, regardless of what I still

2935
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:20,840
Speaker 6: support them. I still big them up into this day.

2936
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:23,240
Speaker 6: I do major shows and I always give them a

2937
02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:25,160
Speaker 6: shout out. I always give them the credit, you know.

2938
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:29,359
Speaker 6: But listen, we went together forty somebody is that's a marriage.

2939
02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 5: You can't even say them, it's you, right, it's them,

2940
02:20:33,640 --> 02:20:37,560
Speaker 5: because I have to. It's not anybody, one person that

2941
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:39,640
Speaker 5: can take credit for what the col Course did.

2942
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:42,000
Speaker 6: It was all a collective. You understand, we did.

2943
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:43,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you as in you

2944
02:20:43,720 --> 02:20:45,920
Speaker 3: are part of that. I don't mean you solo you.

2945
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:48,800
Speaker 3: You can't keep saying them excluding yourself, is.

2946
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:49,120
Speaker 1: What I mean.

2947
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:51,120
Speaker 6: Well, when I say them in the sense that you know,

2948
02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:53,920
Speaker 6: now they're doing their thing and I'm doing mine. That's

2949
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:56,720
Speaker 6: why what I mean, not that in that sense, you know.

2950
02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,040
Speaker 6: And I'm always big them up and I'm always be

2951
02:20:59,120 --> 02:21:02,240
Speaker 6: happy for them there, but I am not. I can't

2952
02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:03,760
Speaker 6: be a part of I'm not just I'm not a

2953
02:21:03,800 --> 02:21:06,120
Speaker 6: part of the group. Then I have to unless they

2954
02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:09,200
Speaker 6: want to decide to start changing things a little bit more,

2955
02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:10,959
Speaker 6: and we just kind of have to sort out things

2956
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:12,280
Speaker 6: between us two, you know.

2957
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:14,880
Speaker 5: Then then I would I would consider it.

2958
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:16,959
Speaker 6: But we have to start.

2959
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 5: We have to start taking a step forward.

2960
02:21:18,879 --> 02:21:19,240
Speaker 6: I can't.

2961
02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 5: I can't live in the past anymore. I got to

2962
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 5: move forward. There's so much more.

2963
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:24,200
Speaker 4: You know that.

2964
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 6: I met him in Puerto Rico. I think it was

2965
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:30,600
Speaker 6: for the rock Steady anniversary.

2966
02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 1: He was running out.

2967
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:33,879
Speaker 5: He was running out.

2968
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:36,760
Speaker 6: Somebody told him I was at He stopped, walked over

2969
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:38,520
Speaker 6: to me and gave me, saidyo, pleasure meeting you and

2970
02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:40,279
Speaker 6: he read, yeah.

2971
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:43,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't that way.

2972
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:46,160
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

2973
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus man, I'm so honest that you came and

2974
02:21:52,360 --> 02:21:56,440
Speaker 1: sat down with us, man, so honored to give you

2975
02:21:56,560 --> 02:21:58,920
Speaker 1: your flower, so honored to tell you how much you

2976
02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:01,720
Speaker 1: mean and and everything that I said it in the beginning.

2977
02:22:02,240 --> 02:22:08,640
Speaker 1: You know about you know, you being like drink camps father,

2978
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:13,600
Speaker 1: it's the truth, because yeah, I'm giving it to you.

2979
02:22:14,959 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 3: Man.

2980
02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:18,840
Speaker 1: It's no child, goddamnit.

2981
02:22:18,959 --> 02:22:19,200
Speaker 4: But no.

2982
02:22:19,879 --> 02:22:23,200
Speaker 1: But in old seriousness, like I want you to really

2983
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:29,280
Speaker 1: know how much you are adored in hip hop. I

2984
02:22:29,400 --> 02:22:34,400
Speaker 1: want you to understand that this is your platform. You

2985
02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:37,080
Speaker 1: will come here promote Pink Toenails if we want to.

2986
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:41,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You can by the way, monster let's

2987
02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:44,560
Speaker 1: pick up to Monster Energy. But if you know, whatever

2988
02:22:44,720 --> 02:22:46,800
Speaker 1: the fuck you want to promote, you want to come here,

2989
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:52,520
Speaker 1: this is your house. We really appreciate what you did.

2990
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Because now he's super DJ guy, I'm super Puerto Rican

2991
02:23:01,440 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 1: and like it ends there, right, But I was so

2992
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:08,840
Speaker 1: excited today, Like I mean, I'll be honest, we was.

2993
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:12,000
Speaker 1: We've built red you for a while, like just to

2994
02:23:12,080 --> 02:23:14,320
Speaker 1: chomp it up, you know, like both know me and

2995
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:19,880
Speaker 1: him both been excited as fuck, because that's what we

2996
02:23:19,959 --> 02:23:23,480
Speaker 1: started this show for, is to make sure that people

2997
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:25,200
Speaker 1: that have been in this game ten years are more

2998
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:28,720
Speaker 1: do not get forgot. I appreciate that, and that's the

2999
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:32,920
Speaker 1: only This is the only genre in the world that

3000
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:39,800
Speaker 1: if if you have ten years or more, they say

3001
02:23:39,879 --> 02:23:44,000
Speaker 1: you washed up, tell me tell there's nothing there's not

3002
02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:46,400
Speaker 1: in rock and roll. They don't. They don't have a

3003
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:47,320
Speaker 1: word washed up.

3004
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:58,200
Speaker 7: Nostage years old, this nigga is still eating blood.

3005
02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:02,520
Speaker 1: It's like, and he's live.

3006
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:05,080
Speaker 5: Where did he get that vegan blood blood?

3007
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:09,160
Speaker 1: Vegan blood? I know, I ain't know, But why in

3008
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:13,000
Speaker 1: our culture do we even allow this conversation to even

3009
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:16,800
Speaker 1: participate to even happen.

3010
02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:19,240
Speaker 3: Because we have to continue to raise up these heroes

3011
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:21,840
Speaker 3: and make sure that we give them the accolades they

3012
02:24:21,920 --> 02:24:25,640
Speaker 3: deserve and that the youth grows up looking at them

3013
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:27,160
Speaker 3: the way the heroes that they are.

3014
02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:27,760
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

3015
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:31,400
Speaker 1: One of my one of my favorite jay Z albums

3016
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:34,320
Speaker 1: right now is four four four and he made it

3017
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:37,480
Speaker 1: at forty what. I don't even know what age this

3018
02:24:37,560 --> 02:24:43,920
Speaker 1: nigga was, But why we can't praise us as we age?

3019
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:44,680
Speaker 6: I agree with you.

3020
02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Wine gets better that the goal is aging. In fact,

3021
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:53,640
Speaker 1: if you drink some wine that's premature, it's disgusting.

3022
02:24:56,360 --> 02:24:56,840
Speaker 6: What the.

3023
02:24:58,600 --> 02:25:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. You ever drink premature.

3024
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:03,840
Speaker 5: Wine, it's good, you gotta die.

3025
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:08,520
Speaker 1: It's called don't drink it. But what they they say?

3026
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:13,680
Speaker 1: They say, this is a Cabernet from eighteen forty four,

3027
02:25:14,879 --> 02:25:19,600
Speaker 1: or you can have nineteen, maybe nineteen. I'm sorry, but

3028
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:25,000
Speaker 1: why in our culture we don't praise each other. So

3029
02:25:25,120 --> 02:25:27,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you face to face, man, and man,

3030
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:33,920
Speaker 1: you are appreciated, you are loved.

3031
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:34,440
Speaker 6: Thank you.

3032
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:38,560
Speaker 1: Man, We got your motherfucking back and we want to

3033
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Speaker 1: continue to support you. Thank you, because without you, there's

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02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:51,080
Speaker 1: truly nobody in this room, not chet. Besides, if it's

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02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:54,960
Speaker 1: not for you, there's probably nobody in this room. There's

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02:25:54,959 --> 02:26:00,720
Speaker 1: probably nobody in this room together. I know how hard

3037
02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:06,800
Speaker 1: it is being that odd ball or that the first one. Yeah,

3038
02:26:07,360 --> 02:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I know how hard it is. I know it. I've

3039
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,600
Speaker 1: done it so many times, and then they tell me

3040
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm a genius after it works. But as I'm doing it,

3041
02:26:18,879 --> 02:26:22,800
Speaker 1: everyone's looking at me like you idiot, what are you doing?

3042
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:29,920
Speaker 1: I brung a tight shirt, kid, in my studio session.

3043
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:38,440
Speaker 1: He became Pharrell Williams later, but as I was doing it,

3044
02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:41,760
Speaker 1: everyone looked at me and said, you're an idiot. Who

3045
02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:45,560
Speaker 1: is this guy? Chad Hugo was there to get it twisted,

3046
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:48,560
Speaker 1: But I was the first. So when you're the first,

3047
02:26:49,840 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 1: you get shut down, you get chastised, you get criticized.

3048
02:26:54,879 --> 02:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Everyone says that until it works, and you not only

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02:27:01,400 --> 02:27:05,400
Speaker 1: was the first one, all on documented documented.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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02:27:06,320 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 1: I know you say, there's other Puerto Ricans that was

3052
02:27:08,680 --> 02:27:11,920
Speaker 1: before you, and Latinos and Latinus whatever before you. But

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02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:16,280
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. We hear at drink Champs.

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02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:18,600
Speaker 1: I want to give you a flowers, We want to

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02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:20,959
Speaker 1: give you a roses. We want to tell you how

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02:27:21,040 --> 02:27:30,240
Speaker 1: much absolutely you appreciate it. You are sincerely class per

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02:27:30,320 --> 02:27:33,120
Speaker 1: signified and we got your mother fucking back.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

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02:27:33,959 --> 02:27:34,119
Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, let me tell you, Let me tell you something, bro.

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02:27:40,120 --> 02:27:43,360
Speaker 6: Yes, please, I've always I always tell people this is

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02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:45,720
Speaker 6: an important platform because you guys just don't talk about

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02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:51,320
Speaker 6: hip hop. You bring in NFL athletes, NBA athletes, politicians,

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02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:54,680
Speaker 6: people from all walks of life that matter. That that

3065
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:57,320
Speaker 6: people need to hear that people you feel that that

3066
02:27:57,440 --> 02:28:01,520
Speaker 6: you feel is important. This is an important platform. Naw yo,

3067
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:03,640
Speaker 6: my crew will tell you. I don't do interviews. I

3068
02:28:03,800 --> 02:28:07,080
Speaker 6: stopped doing interviews years ago. E f N reached out

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02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:11,760
Speaker 6: to me two years ago. Two years ago, he says, yoh, no,

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02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:16,560
Speaker 6: you ain't even yeah, I says, yo, we would love

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02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:18,600
Speaker 6: to have you on Drink Champs. Just let us know

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02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:22,400
Speaker 6: and and and I will uh fix a slot for you.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 6: And for years I didn't want to do any anything,

3075
02:28:25,640 --> 02:28:29,040
Speaker 6: you know, And this time around, with all this controversy

3076
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:31,120
Speaker 6: and everything, and I turned to my crew. I had

3077
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:33,720
Speaker 6: a conversation with them, and I said, I think it's time.

3078
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:36,200
Speaker 6: And I reached out to e f N and he

3079
02:28:36,360 --> 02:28:38,520
Speaker 6: was like, no doubt made it happen. And I'm here

3080
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:41,480
Speaker 6: because this is an important It's not I'm not here

3081
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:43,920
Speaker 6: because it's popular because y'all got millions of fathers now

3082
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:47,320
Speaker 6: that it is an important platform with people, with people

3083
02:28:47,720 --> 02:28:50,320
Speaker 6: who have an important thing to say. What an important

3084
02:28:51,320 --> 02:28:54,520
Speaker 6: how would you say? An important agenda? They need to

3085
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:58,200
Speaker 6: be here because a lot of people who don't know

3086
02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:01,320
Speaker 6: that are uninformed to tune in this and get in formed. Right,

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02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 6: So this is the platform for that.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you. No, we appreciate it.

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02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:08,160
Speaker 1: But let's let's re itervate this before we wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: I said twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four, you are

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Speaker 1: the Puerto.

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Speaker 5: Rican Ambassador, Ambassador.

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Speaker 1: Ambassador, can we just call it the Charlie Chase Parade.

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02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:22,760
Speaker 5: That's all day, Let's just call it.

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02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:25,879
Speaker 1: Listen. I thought that that's what I thought it were.

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02:29:25,959 --> 02:29:29,200
Speaker 1: So I've been telling diego up, and you are. I'm like, yo,

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02:29:29,560 --> 02:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I just want you to know, and that's like, what's

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02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:34,680
Speaker 1: going on. I'm like, Port d Parade changed the name

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02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:37,600
Speaker 1: to the Charlie Chase Parade. So just let's ride at

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02:29:37,640 --> 02:29:44,000
Speaker 1: the room. Let's just rive the now Charlie Chase Parade. Listen,

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02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:51,440
Speaker 1: it's called the fucking Charlie Chase. Fer We can still

3103
02:29:51,520 --> 02:29:55,080
Speaker 1: call it porn parade on the side, on the side,

3104
02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:57,720
Speaker 1: but up front, we're calling it the Charlie motherfucker. I

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02:29:57,800 --> 02:29:59,480
Speaker 1: appreciate that because.

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02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:04,000
Speaker 6: Something so I mean, we've spoken about what I've done

3107
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:08,160
Speaker 6: in the past, we haven't spoken about about the future.

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02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:10,720
Speaker 6: Right so right now my partners are here with my

3109
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:14,480
Speaker 6: business partners and stuff. We have a new platform now

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02:30:14,959 --> 02:30:16,360
Speaker 6: that we created. It took a few years to put

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02:30:16,400 --> 02:30:22,440
Speaker 6: this together. We basically have the same, uh, the same

3112
02:30:22,680 --> 02:30:25,720
Speaker 6: how would you say, capabilities of Netflix and Amazon. We

3113
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:28,360
Speaker 6: have a platform now we can provide that. We've already

3114
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 6: done our first pay per view show. We can do

3115
02:30:31,959 --> 02:30:34,760
Speaker 6: we can do anything we want to on this platform.

3116
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:38,560
Speaker 6: We are now Roku, we're getting ready to go on Firestick,

3117
02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:40,440
Speaker 6: and we're getting ready to go on Apple TV.

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02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:42,360
Speaker 5: It's called black Market Media.

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02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:44,480
Speaker 6: Black Market TV is the channel that we have on

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02:30:44,600 --> 02:30:46,320
Speaker 6: You can tune on, go to black Market dot com

3121
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:48,480
Speaker 6: and you can log on that way, or if you

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02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:50,200
Speaker 6: have Roku, you can go on there for now until

3123
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:51,080
Speaker 6: the other two platforms.

3124
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:54,240
Speaker 1: Right, yes, I got that.

3125
02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 6: No, it's it's not it's not like too, it's it's

3126
02:30:57,959 --> 02:31:03,840
Speaker 6: a platform of its own, would you Eric, Eric.

3127
02:31:03,800 --> 02:31:04,800
Speaker 5: Is the guy that put it together.

3128
02:31:04,959 --> 02:31:13,280
Speaker 6: Ericident Eric, Right, I forgot your So that platform is

3129
02:31:13,480 --> 02:31:16,520
Speaker 6: black Market Media is black Market dot black Market dot

3130
02:31:16,600 --> 02:31:18,640
Speaker 6: com TV, black Market tv dot com.

3131
02:31:18,680 --> 02:31:20,120
Speaker 5: You'll see you go on there, you see it.

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02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:23,240
Speaker 6: We have programming, hip hop programming, or you'll see me

3133
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:24,640
Speaker 6: on their interviews.

3134
02:31:24,200 --> 02:31:24,760
Speaker 5: And stuff like that.

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02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:29,279
Speaker 6: Right now, we're about maybe ten thousands and changed viewers

3136
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:31,520
Speaker 6: every month that we have slowly growing.

3137
02:31:31,560 --> 02:31:33,280
Speaker 5: We just started it, you know.

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02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:36,560
Speaker 6: So we're looking to do shows now pay per view stuff,

3139
02:31:36,959 --> 02:31:39,000
Speaker 6: and but our platform is so different that if you

3140
02:31:39,040 --> 02:31:43,359
Speaker 6: have a business and you want to have a meetings

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02:31:43,959 --> 02:31:47,000
Speaker 6: or Zoom meeting style, just like you don't need zoom.

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02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:49,600
Speaker 6: You can do it on ROCU, you can do it

3143
02:31:49,720 --> 02:31:52,560
Speaker 6: on on Apple TV, you can do it on on

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02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:54,160
Speaker 6: on a firestick.

3145
02:31:54,400 --> 02:31:56,240
Speaker 1: But what's your what's your platform?

3146
02:31:56,400 --> 02:31:59,440
Speaker 5: Black Marker, it's black Media, is black Media?

3147
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:01,640
Speaker 6: Tell it's black Media is the name of the company.

3148
02:32:01,680 --> 02:32:05,320
Speaker 6: But the channel is black Market TV. Black Market like

3149
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:08,040
Speaker 6: Magic Marker. We got that happening right now. This is

3150
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 6: blowing up for us and getting ready.

3151
02:32:09,320 --> 02:32:09,600
Speaker 1: To do that.

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02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:13,520
Speaker 6: When the parade, we are actually going to broadcast live

3153
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:18,200
Speaker 6: from our float on the float, live from the parade.

3154
02:32:18,520 --> 02:32:20,880
Speaker 5: I'm going to be in my in a convertible in

3155
02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:24,560
Speaker 5: front of the float with my daughter. She's coming with me.

3156
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:26,600
Speaker 5: The flow is going to be behind us, and we're

3157
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:29,360
Speaker 5: going to be broadcasting live the whole ship, the whole

3158
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:31,240
Speaker 5: thing going down on our channel.

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02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:33,680
Speaker 6: So this is the future for us. This is going

3160
02:32:33,760 --> 02:32:35,120
Speaker 6: to be big. Right now.

3161
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I just told you the story and you started to

3162
02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:42,080
Speaker 1: hate a little bit, like not in a hey.

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02:32:42,040 --> 02:32:44,960
Speaker 3: Come listen, Man, I'm plato all latinos bro.

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02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:48,560
Speaker 6: Right now, we're having a conversation with the Florida Board

3165
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:51,240
Speaker 6: of Education to come on board because they're considering coming

3166
02:32:51,280 --> 02:32:53,360
Speaker 6: out of the platform to conduct all their business on

3167
02:32:53,440 --> 02:32:56,240
Speaker 6: the platform. It's it's it's it's a multi level thing

3168
02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:59,000
Speaker 6: like you've never seen, bro, and it's all Latino owned,

3169
02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:01,480
Speaker 6: you know what I'm say saying. We're pushing that forward

3170
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:05,000
Speaker 6: right now. Right now, I'm also producing for then uh

3171
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:10,040
Speaker 6: not at least not at least that's getting ready to

3172
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:13,440
Speaker 6: come out, you know. And we just we're just looking forward, man,

3173
02:33:13,959 --> 02:33:17,840
Speaker 6: forward and upward. That's what we're going with this. Broe listen.

3174
02:33:21,640 --> 02:33:23,240
Speaker 1: And do some drops, and.

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02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:25,680
Speaker 5: Thank you for inviting me.

3176
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:26,280
Speaker 6: I appreciate that.

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02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Man, I want to say it again, thank you because

3178
02:33:30,840 --> 02:33:34,840
Speaker 1: when you look at the history you doing what you

3179
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:39,840
Speaker 1: did and when it was the funniest thing is we

3180
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:43,960
Speaker 1: googled the ops we we had to right and the

3181
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:48,640
Speaker 1: Fat Joe pops up and they say, okay, cool, he

3182
02:33:48,760 --> 02:33:52,240
Speaker 1: influenced Fat Joe, and Fat Joe already says that how

3183
02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:55,000
Speaker 1: much you influenced them? But then then I come up

3184
02:33:55,040 --> 02:33:59,119
Speaker 1: after and I'm like this is so dope, Like it's.

3185
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:01,480
Speaker 6: People need to hear your story more because I didn't

3186
02:34:01,480 --> 02:34:03,240
Speaker 6: even know about this until the soul that I got.

3187
02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:05,040
Speaker 3: Yet that's right now you're gonna come out with his

3188
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:08,240
Speaker 3: autobiography and his documentary and the elementary.

3189
02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:11,240
Speaker 1: But let me say it to you and again in

3190
02:34:11,320 --> 02:34:15,680
Speaker 1: front these people who listen to us, thank you so much,

3191
02:34:15,840 --> 02:34:20,600
Speaker 1: thank you, because thank you man. I truly believe that

3192
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:23,880
Speaker 1: if you wasn't as resilient as you was and stick

3193
02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:27,520
Speaker 1: to what you was doing. Because when when when they

3194
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:31,040
Speaker 1: said and I looked at and they said, man, why

3195
02:34:31,080 --> 02:34:34,960
Speaker 1: are you playing that type of music? I was related

3196
02:34:35,000 --> 02:34:37,280
Speaker 1: to that just so much. And I was just like,

3197
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:42,280
Speaker 1: holy shit, And I told you, my wife is right there,

3198
02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 1: and I looked at my wife. I was like, this

3199
02:34:43,800 --> 02:34:48,440
Speaker 1: man's life is my life. It's literal. It's literally my

3200
02:34:48,560 --> 02:34:50,760
Speaker 1: life in a different way, like in a different way, right,

3201
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,720
Speaker 1: but it's literally. And I was just like, damn. And

3202
02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:55,720
Speaker 1: I had to tell you this face to face, man,

3203
02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:59,160
Speaker 1: and man, thank you so much. Man. I really appreciate that.

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02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,760
Speaker 6: Thank you, and I appreciate you sticking it out the

3205
02:35:03,800 --> 02:35:04,120
Speaker 6: way he.

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Speaker 3: executive producers n O r E and dj e f N.

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