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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: That job, the cook, Duffy and pregners.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: All right, just like d UFC two seventy three, fight

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Speaker 6: week is upon us, sort of, I guess. Saturday, April second,

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, it's episode three forty three of the

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Speaker 6: Anak and Florian Podcast. If you're only a listener, you're

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Speaker 6: missing out on my Kenny Florian T shirt today.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look at that.

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Speaker 6: Let's go Team Florian. President Heath is the vice president.

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Speaker 6: I'm the president, Keith right, you know, doctor Florian, I'm

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Speaker 6: the president of.

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Speaker 7: This fine buddy. Good to see you.

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Speaker 4: As well as a time when I was definitely way

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Speaker 4: more ripped, much better shape, and certainly more handsome, but

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Speaker 4: my beard was pretty.

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Speaker 6: Weak, staring death in the face. So I got my

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Speaker 6: bitcoin on Gemini. Okay, I thought that was I thought

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Speaker 6: that was enough, and they call that a wallet, but

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Speaker 6: I guess I need now like a hard drive wallet.

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Speaker 6: Is that what you're telling me. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 6: trying to turn this into a bitcoin program. And I

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Speaker 6: know you probably get paid for your bitcoin analysis, but

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Speaker 6: like you got to help a brother raup.

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Speaker 7: Do I need a hard drive now too? Is that?

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Speaker 7: Is that being sent to me, Kenny or what?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like a little thumb drive, a little

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Speaker 4: cold wallet or whatever. Yeah, right, and you know you

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Speaker 4: have that, you set that up. We could talk about

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Speaker 4: some security measures you could take for that, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's the way to do.

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Speaker 7: It, dude.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so I guess so will that be

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Speaker 6: like tied to my like Gemini stuff, like that Gemini

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Speaker 6: stuff will be on the hard drive or.

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Speaker 4: Exactly you'll send that. You can send that over to

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 7: Your little marta.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like you have it on the phone or

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Speaker 4: whatever and then boom secure.

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Speaker 6: My goodness, gracious, you know, unbelievable. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 6: follow Ken flows me. But this is a mixed martial

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Speaker 6: arts program and we have got a lot to get

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Speaker 6: to today. A lot of big favorites at UFC two

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Speaker 6: So certainly planning to get to with James krauson the

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Speaker 6: also talk to what we hope is a spirited Ray Longo.

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Speaker 6: You know, I know you've got some things you're gonna

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Speaker 6: throw his way. As far as the first fight, han't

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Speaker 6: rewatched it, and you know, we'll see if Longo responds

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Speaker 6: for UFC two seventy three. Let's get to the main

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Speaker 6: event challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge times.

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Speaker 8: How do you everything possible to win?

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Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge to John Hannick and Kenny

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Speaker 6: All right, joining us to make picks today pay per

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Speaker 6: in Kansas City, Missourian. So much more than that UFC

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Speaker 6: Orleans right now, x MMA the night Cole Smith in

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Speaker 6: the building. How you feel in just a few hours

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Speaker 6: out by that?

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Speaker 9: I don't need to feel good. I'm not fighting, so.

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's it's you know what's crazy is I

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Speaker 5: don't think I've ever been here before.

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Speaker 9: I don't think I've ever been to Know Orleans.

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Speaker 5: There you go, and it's an absolute shit show here

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Speaker 5: right now because the NCAA tournament here, Like you're not

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Speaker 5: going anywhere to eat any less than like forty five

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Speaker 6: A lot of noise, a lot of noise. All right, Well,

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Speaker 6: hopefully we won't keep you too long today. Just four

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Speaker 6: picks actually, uh, main card's still getting sorted out. Removal

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Speaker 6: of the fight recently between Kelvin Gastallom and Dracus duplus,

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Speaker 6: so first for us dine to know where you guys

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Speaker 6: stand on it at strawweight A picka Mackenzie Dern and

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Speaker 6: toys minus one ten on both sides. James Krause, I'm

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Speaker 6: glad I'm not making a selection today.

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Speaker 7: Who do you have?

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Speaker 9: I wish I wasn't either. This one's a tough one, man.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those ones where at the fight stays standing,

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Speaker 5: it's a heavy lien on on Torres. If it goes

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Speaker 5: to the ground, it's a heavy lien on Dern. I

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Speaker 5: feel like historically, U, dude, I literally gonna change my

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Speaker 9: Yes, I like I was gonna play.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna play t Torres. And it's because I

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Speaker 5: feel like her footwork is so good. She's not easy

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Speaker 9: Striking on the move. I like that a lot.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like Kenzi darn correct me if I' wrong.

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Speaker 5: I feel like she's gotten every single person she's fought down,

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Speaker 5: And I feel like, if this fight hits the ground,

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Speaker 9: Bad news for Torres.

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Speaker 9: I feel that way, So, uh, I guess I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting, Kenny Mackenzie Dern figures to have learned

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Speaker 6: Torres has won three in a row, and that came

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Speaker 6: The question is it enough can flow this Saturday night

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I like the fact that teacher Torres has

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Speaker 4: her stocky stature makes it difficult to change levels on her.

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Speaker 4: She's athletic and strong. It's tough to take her down.

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Speaker 4: What we're I'm most concerned is sometimes in defending the takedown,

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Speaker 7: On your back.

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Speaker 4: That's concerning to me, And just like a lot of

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Speaker 3: I haven't quite seen that yet.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen improvement in her striking, but I think

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Speaker 4: So for that, I'm going with Tisha. It's hard to

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Speaker 6: I love that this fight was put together, and I

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Speaker 7: Obviously, all Right had welterweight featured out here.

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Speaker 6: Eleventh rights Kamzat Chimai of his minus five twenty five,

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Speaker 6: the slightest bit. Certainly Gilbert or well certainly Gilbert Burns

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Speaker 6: don't give him a chance. And if you want to

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Speaker 6: say the betting line is disrespectful, I'm not gonna sit

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Speaker 6: here and get into a long winded debate with you.

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Speaker 6: But I believe he deserves this distinction and this type

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Speaker 6: of respect that he's getting. I just think he's the

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Speaker 6: bigger man. But I think it'll be competitive for however

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Speaker 6: long it lasts. James, Ultimately, they don't care where I stand.

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Speaker 6: They want to know which way you're going?

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Speaker 5: Uh to me? Okay, so let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 5: Let's lead off to this. Where would you put the

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Speaker 5: line that on Shemaiah versus.

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Speaker 6: Use Man, Well, I think, uh, I think it would

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Speaker 6: be probably close to a pick him right, Kamar will

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Speaker 6: be about two to one.

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Speaker 7: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Like Vicente Luke is favored to beat Balah Muhammad, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: what is Chimayav against Vicente?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 6: And it isn't a means of disrespect, right, But there's

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Speaker 6: one segment of people that are like, hey, man, you know,

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Speaker 6: this is the most disrespectable betting line that they've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: To me, you know, I see a weight class discrepancy here,

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Speaker 6: and ultimately Gilbert's not going to know the strength until

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Speaker 6: But I'm excited to see what Gilbert can do with

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Speaker 5: The closing line on Burns versus Usman was around minus

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Speaker 5: But in the last let's call it three years, no

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Speaker 9: Is ridiculous to me. I'm not saying.

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Speaker 9: I can get him at four to one, I have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, certainly in our scoring system, it makes a

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Speaker 6: You know, he is so comfortable anywhere the fight goes.

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Speaker 9: Ultimately, and probably the best grappler in the UFC, like

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Speaker 4: He's done this in two different weight classes, one eighty

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Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't mean he's gonna go out there

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Speaker 4: And I think those odds against Uzman might be very close.

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Speaker 4: If he gets on top of you, min and he

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Speaker 4: knows how to scramble all that stuff. Fascinating fight. We

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Speaker 6: And then maybe how good Lee jing Leong is or

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Speaker 6: Gerald Mershark, Right, James, I don't know how much time

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Speaker 6: you have, right, but like the jing Leung has had

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Speaker 5: You know that, But stylistically, hold on, Stylistically, that's a

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Speaker 5: nightmare matchup for him. Sure, Stylistically, I mean we're talking

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Speaker 6: So Gilbert Burns mops the floor with the leech, is

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Speaker 6: what you're telling me. And that's and you know and

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Speaker 6: betting line on the leech and Gilbert Burns, I don't

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Speaker 9: Even been hit. Like the fight that keeps coming too.

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Speaker 5: My mind is is Terrence McKinney and Drew Dover And

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Speaker 9: But like whenever you get to a certain level, And

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I.

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Speaker 9: Don't know enough information without that information, Like Kenny just

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Speaker 9: he's been texted. I haven't even think this dude been

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Speaker 7: Like right right then?

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Speaker 9: Is he that good? Maybe he is that good?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: And because I don't know, I'm not placing that damn

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I love it. I think that's fair. I

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Speaker 6: Co Main event Puerian minus four to fifty al Jamaine

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Speaker 6: Sterling plus three forty. The price, of course, was a

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Speaker 6: Since Aljoe hasn't fought, he's had next surgery, Yan of course,

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Speaker 6: call it that. The interim championship last October in Abu

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Speaker 6: you're paying a price on puer Urian obviously, James, what

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Speaker 5: Listen, I don't I hate the price. I mean it's

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Speaker 5: it's very disrespectful of al Jamaine Sterling. You know, obviously

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Speaker 5: and it looked incredible in that fight. Al Jamyne has

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Speaker 5: I think if he gets Yon down he could Dude,

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Speaker 5: I'm grappled with Albane and he's a monster on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Dude's a problem on the ground for anyone. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 9: It's gonna be the big issue.

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Speaker 5: But because al Jamayne has the equivalent of a knockout

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Speaker 9: Because he has that, I.

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Speaker 5: Can't I can't play the you know I can't. I

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Speaker 5: can't play the big money, the big chalk here. Now,

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Speaker 5: if you have a gun in my head and you

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Speaker 5: say James, pick a fire, I'm probably gonna go with Yon,

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Speaker 5: just because I feel like as the fight goes longer,

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Speaker 5: as it keeps going. Al Jamayne in the last fight

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Speaker 5: He faded, and I'm assuming they're gonna make these adjustments, right,

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Speaker 5: But after watching on in the Sanhagan fight, he just

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Speaker 5: I think it's I don't necessarily think it's a cardio thing.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a timing thing, right because al Jamaine

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Speaker 9: It's a timing thing. And I think that they've had

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Speaker 5: I think John's gonna start a little faster, and he's

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Speaker 9: A gun to my head. I have to go, I

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Speaker 5: This is one of those ones where I would play

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Speaker 5: I would play yng, but I would go al Jamaine.

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Speaker 6: By Okay, all right, so you met him out, Joe,

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Speaker 6: but ultimately got to your head, you'd like pyot yoah.

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: No? But if you're plus right six hundred seven hundred

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Kenny, it's an interesting fight, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean a lot of valuable experience gained, for sure

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think some great thoughts there from James,

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Speaker 4: given that and last time I looked it was he

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Speaker 4: was a plus.

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Speaker 7: Three forty underdog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I like that here, I really do. And you know,

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Speaker 4: Ray's been singing his praises. It seems like he's doing

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Speaker 4: everything right. I love the way peoter Yon fights. He's

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite fighters in the UFC right now.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, I kind of like Aljo here.

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Speaker 4: I think people are kind of sleeping them on, sleeping

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Speaker 4: on him a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you're asking me if I see more value

449
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Speaker 6: on Gilbert Burns plus three eighty five or Aljamain Sterling

450
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Speaker 6: plus three forty. I'm not going to tell you because

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Speaker 6: I'm calling the fight. But it's interesting, James, you know

452
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Speaker 6: what I have written down on.

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Speaker 9: My fighter I was actually gonna ask you that.

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, yeah, No, I probably disclosed more

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Speaker 6: than tea right now, but yeah. I mean it's easy

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Speaker 6: for me to hop on a microphone next week and

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Speaker 6: say I told you so, but I'll tell you exactly

458
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Speaker 6: what I how I feel about that next week. I

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Speaker 6: have written down on my Peodion fighter card, like playing

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Speaker 6: with his food, like in the Fabor fight, maybe he

461
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Speaker 6: could have gotten him out of there earlier. And sometimes

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Speaker 6: that's like a negative connotation when it really shouldn't be.

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Speaker 6: And it's maybe that I'm not watching it with a

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Speaker 6: sophisticated enough eye and he's not at all playing with

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Speaker 6: his food.

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Speaker 7: He's getting his reads, you know.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I think he's very patient.

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Speaker 5: I think he's very patient how he attacks, and uh,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you're wrong. I think there, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think there's some times where he could turn it

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Speaker 5: up a little bit.

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Speaker 9: He plays it safe. He's very for for as aggressive

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Speaker 9: of a fighter as he is. He does. He does

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Speaker 9: play it safe sometimes. I don't mind that, man, Like,

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Speaker 9: the dude is incredible. I like his game a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows.

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Speaker 9: I think he knows when to turn it up and

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Speaker 9: when not to, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And like it's hard to turn it up on some

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Speaker 5: of these guys because you at the high level, they'll

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Speaker 5: make you pay for it. Mean, I think he's a

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Speaker 5: very very intelligent fighter with maybe some of the best

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Speaker 5: fight I Q in in that division.

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Speaker 9: At least, you know, he's incredible. He reads well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and and uh he's hit a ten on the

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Speaker 4: Tough Prick scale the Nasty Prick scale as well.

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Speaker 7: He's got it all he gets, he gets a ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: he's got it all.

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Speaker 6: A couple of sons, beautiful wife, there's a lot of people,

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Speaker 6: I trust. You think he's going to go down as

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Speaker 6: the greatest fan way of all time. Martinly needs a win.

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Speaker 6: Saturday Night All Right, main event for the UFC's undisputed

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Speaker 6: featherweight title widespread here Alexander Volkanovsky minus seven to twenty,

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Speaker 6: Chan Sung Jung plus five hundred. Volcos won twenty in

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Speaker 6: a row. Chan Sung Jung won a main event against

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Speaker 6: Danny Gay. That was his last fight last June. Pretty remarkably,

497
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Speaker 6: he fought Jose Auto for the title back in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 6: Then the military service, so the Korean Zombies four and

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Speaker 6: two in this sort of second UFC stint. Since he

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Speaker 6: returned in twenty seventeen, he has earned another championship opportunity.

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Speaker 6: James Krause, what do you think he's able to do

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Speaker 6: with it.

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Speaker 5: I'm a huge KZ fan. I like him a lot,

504
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Speaker 5: and I have mixed feelings about this fight. I really

505
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Speaker 5: watched Volkanovski. I really started to I'll be honest with you, guys,

506
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Speaker 5: I was late to the party because I just didn't

507
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Speaker 5: see it right. I didn't see like he's just so

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Speaker 5: fundamentally he's a guy that I feel like when you

509
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Speaker 5: watch him.

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Speaker 9: It's like, man, he does everything right.

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Speaker 5: But I have a feeling he's a feel guy, Like

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Speaker 5: when you get in there, it's just like, oh shit,

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Speaker 5: this is different, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 9: Like this this is what they were talking about, right.

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Speaker 5: And when I started to break him down and I

516
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Speaker 5: started to watch him, what I realized is I think

517
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Speaker 5: he may be the best fighter in the entire UFC

518
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Speaker 5: at covering distance. He's incredibly safe, incredibly smart, and how

519
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Speaker 5: he covers distance and how he closes the gap, he

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Speaker 5: does that probably better than anybody else in the entire UFC.

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Speaker 5: Add that with, he is definitely top ten most durable

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Speaker 5: fighter in the UFC. And I'm talking about from a

523
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Speaker 5: chin perspective, from a submission defense perspective, durability over five

524
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Speaker 5: rounds perspective, and Cardio plays.

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Speaker 9: Into that as well. Right, his overall durability to be

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Speaker 9: in a fight for twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Minutes is absolutely incredible. Top ten for sure, top five

528
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Speaker 5: maybe he's up there, but he covers distance so so well.

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Speaker 5: I think he's the best at it. And what I

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Speaker 5: see this fight is I see and this is I

531
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Speaker 5: was telling you, I have some mixed feelings about this.

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Speaker 5: I see the caz Ortega fight, and I've seen Ortega

533
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Speaker 5: kind of touching kz up and in that fight, you know, uh,

534
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Speaker 5: and then you go to Volkanovski and Ortega and then

535
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Speaker 5: you see the difference there, right, So there's like there

536
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Speaker 5: was obvious levels of difference between those. The problem that

537
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Speaker 5: I had that with that is we've talked about this before,

538
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Speaker 5: is kz and Ortega was on fight Island, and I

539
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Speaker 5: personally don't take those fights in a consideration when I'm

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Speaker 5: studying film for my for my fighters, I've seen too

541
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Speaker 5: many guys come in saturated, under recovered and they look

542
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Speaker 5: like shit.

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Speaker 9: I just I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I won't say I don't take it any into consideration.

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Speaker 5: I don't take it near as much like I get it,

546
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Speaker 5: like a half a point or whatever, just because I've

547
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Speaker 5: seen so many guys come like, oh man, what was

548
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 5: wrong with him that time? You know that nineties bought? Yeah,

549
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Speaker 5: no ships because he fought three thirty eight off of

550
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Speaker 5: a sixteen hour plane ride, a nine hour time change.

551
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Speaker 9: And hadn't slepped in two days, you know what I mean? Like,

552
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Speaker 9: of course he looked like.

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Speaker 5: So uh gun to my head Volkanovski. I think he's incredible.

554
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Speaker 5: I think he's amazing. I think Max is the only

555
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Speaker 5: guy in that division that can that can beat him.

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Speaker 9: I don't. I love Kezy, I just don't see it happening.

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow Main Event, UFC two seventy three, How do

558
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Speaker 7: you see it?

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Speaker 4: James talked about the same word that I had circled

560
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Speaker 4: on my page. It was durability. The durability of Volkanovsky

561
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Speaker 4: is something to behold, and it really is a superpower

562
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Speaker 4: when you can survive tremendous offense and find a way

563
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Speaker 4: to not only get out of those positions, but come

564
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Speaker 4: back and win rounds or win fights. I think it's

565
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Speaker 4: a really special attribute that a lot of champions have.

566
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Speaker 4: Volkanovski is one of them. And yeah, I think he

567
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Speaker 4: does all the little things extremely well, and the basics,

568
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Speaker 4: the fundamentals that every coach, every good coach tells you

569
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Speaker 4: you should have. Volkanovsky has that. So there's nothing that's

570
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Speaker 4: like that wows you necessarily besides his durability and toughness.

571
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Speaker 4: But it's that mastery of the basics and fundamental which

572
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Speaker 4: makes him really difficult to defeat. And I don't see

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Speaker 4: it happening here against Korean Zombie. There's some improvements that

574
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Speaker 4: I've seen in Korean Zombie defensively anyways, and he certainly

575
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Speaker 4: had a huge gap there to make up. But I

576
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Speaker 4: don't think it's enough for me to say he's going

577
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Speaker 4: to go out there and beat Volkanovski. He hits hard,

578
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Speaker 4: all that stuff. I don't see Volkanovsky making major mistakes

579
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Speaker 4: in this one. I think his consistency, his durability, and

580
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Speaker 4: his ability to outpoint you and out smart you is

581
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Speaker 4: going to be the different tier. I think it's pretty

582
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Speaker 4: clear for Volkanovsky.

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Speaker 6: All right, minus seven twenty is a massive price for

584
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Speaker 6: a UFC Men's Championship fight, But I'll leave it at that.

585
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Speaker 6: All right, James, we wish you all the best tonight.

586
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Speaker 6: What else he got going on other than sleep in

587
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Speaker 6: less than eight hours a night.

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Speaker 9: Tim's right over here, He's trying to lay down right now.

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Speaker 9: You must have seen my story this morning.

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Speaker 5: It's basically just a roll off on like we're both

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Speaker 5: just signed trying to like who's going to sleep shitty

592
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Speaker 5: or Tim or I just started this betting discord. I

593
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Speaker 5: just started, I think like a week ago. We do

594
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Speaker 5: like betting and crypto real estate. I think we have

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Speaker 5: over foreigner foreigner some members in a week and uh

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Speaker 5: I'm just giving out, giving out my betting picks and

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Speaker 5: the other play other Crypto. I have a Crypto player

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Speaker 5: that I gave out that's up like ninety three or

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Speaker 5: something in a week.

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Speaker 9: And uh, yeah, we've been we've been crushing it.

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Speaker 5: So we killed it on Cage Wears and I give

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Speaker 5: away a couple of free picks.

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Speaker 9: There's a there's a paid version, and there's a free version.

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Speaker 8: Two.

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Speaker 9: So we've been crushing it.

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Speaker 5: Man. Just go to my if you follow me on Instagram,

607
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Speaker 5: go to my story and I have a I have

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Speaker 5: a link in there, links in my bio two.

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Speaker 6: All right, at the James Krause, if you want to

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Speaker 6: get on, and I'm kind of intrigued, if I'm being honest,

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Speaker 6: maybe when I.

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Speaker 7: Get off the air.

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Speaker 6: Hey, best of luck with Cole Smith tonight, John Fucking

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Speaker 6: Shanis and Boston. Hopefully he holds SERVI as well, and

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Speaker 6: uh look forward to seeing you on the road in

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Speaker 6: the not too distant future.

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Speaker 7: Brother, appreciate your time as always.

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Speaker 9: Thanks you, James, appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 6: All right, James Krause with us for the main Event challenge.

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Speaker 6: All right now, joining us from the MMA Takes Podcast

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Speaker 6: at MMA Takes pod Cast, Big Gun, Brian Peach, break

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Speaker 6: the fucking shirts, let's go. I mean, you got a nickname,

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Speaker 6: It didn't take very long. Did Cody give you that nickname?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: I think it was. It was either Cody or or

626
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Speaker 3: Tim Berger?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Is that is that it is? Cody? Okay?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, I saw.

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Speaker 3: It on on on Twitters, and my last name is

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Speaker 3: kind of polarizing. I can't get a fucking nickname. Everyone

632
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Speaker 3: just goes Petrie. So when I saw a big gun,

633
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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, that's got a stick. Let's go.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, your segment on this show should be the

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Speaker 6: Petrie Dish, right, you get a little dish?

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Speaker 7: I fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's it.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 6: I mean on weeks where you can't make make picks,

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Speaker 6: you know, when James Grouse fucking pushes you to the

642
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Speaker 6: side on ceremonious, you know, I'll bring on the fucking

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Speaker 6: Patriot Dish. You know, so walk into the first installment

644
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Speaker 6: of the pe Dish and you know I'm leading what

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Speaker 6: kamzat Chimaya? So, uh, I don't really have much more

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Speaker 6: to add, you know. We talked about it with James Krause.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a five to one favorite against the

648
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Speaker 6: number two guy in the division. I guess I just

649
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Speaker 6: want your thoughts on the price and if you are

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Speaker 6: gonna have any action on the fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna have action in every fight whenever there's

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Speaker 3: a UFC, not like we're dark this weekend I'm putting

653
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Speaker 3: everything on the fight. I listen the line, is it disrespectful?

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Speaker 9: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not? Because what if Tomaya goes out there and

656
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: fucking sleeps him in two seconds? And then who's talking?

657
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Now?

658
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: The value boys out there they love giving Burns because listen,

659
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: I think Gilburns is great. I think seventy might be

660
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: a little too much for him. He's kind of bricked up.

661
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna slow down a little bit. I

662
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: know everyone likes to bring up the Dan Hooker knock

663
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: out a fifty five, but one sixty five is a

664
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: good way class. Shamayah is fucking huge. He's gonna end

665
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: his career at eighty five for sure. I have a

666
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: little mole, a little buddy of mine who's been in

667
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: Vegas for quite some time that trains out of a

668
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: big Vegas gym, trains with Chamaia. When he comes in

669
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: and tells me, Chamaya a fucking the real deal, like

670
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: a beast. And this guy's not very complimentary of fighters

671
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: coming in like this, Like he's like, no, Tamaya is

672
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: everything you wanted to be. And as a kap May fan,

673
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: one of my strong suits I think is the spot

674
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: talent and I got hand up I with Jamayah bad

675
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: like I I capped him when he came in. I'm like, yeah,

676
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: I don't really see it, right, Okay beat John Phillips, Oh, okay,

677
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: beat Reese McKee?

678
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: Cool?

679
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: What's the hype of this guy? And now I see

680
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: it now, I'm like clinging onto the bandwagon, like, hey,

681
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: let me fucking hop on. Guys, there's some rooms still. Uh,

682
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: the kids unbelievable. And I like his mindset, right, I

683
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: like his mindset. I love the There's a lot of

684
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: talk about Camelo boxing Uzman and Usman. You're my guy.

685
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: I love you. You're a pound for pound best, but

686
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: ye ain't fucking with Camelo. Let's kind of I know

687
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: it's a big check. But and they interviewed Cosmon about that.

688
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: I was like, no, why would I do that. He

689
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: fucking beat me. But if he comes over to my world,

690
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: I submit him in ten seconds. And I love the

691
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: ego check there where like you know, it's it's telling

692
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: me something. And uh, Gibi Burns says all the mocks

693
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: in the world, And I know, John, you said this before,

694
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: and you've gotten some hate on the comments and I

695
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: want them to come after me. No one wants to

696
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: fight Chamaya. No one's calling this guy out next to

697
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: Uzman and Kolby. He he's got the most juice in

698
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: the vision. Yeah, he's ranked eleventh, but if you steal

699
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: this hype, you're that guy. And you don't hear many

700
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: people besides Neil Magny lining up to fight this guy.

701
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: I actually think he's a very cerebral, smart fighter. I

702
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: think he's gonna knock out Gil with Burns, I think

703
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna see a lot like we saw in the

704
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: GM thre fight where Jared Marshard great on the grounds,

705
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: amazing submissions. He went out there and stood up with him.

706
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: And Tamaiah's got a great uppercut. He's got a really

707
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: sick upper cut outside the UFC against one of Kabib guys,

708
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: another high level fighter will probably make his way to

709
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: the DFC one day, and Burns, like the DIP has

710
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: had a little bit, a little bit of a shorter fighter.

711
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: I think Tamayo by KOs is what I'm gonna fucking hammer.

712
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: I get the line, I get it. You know he's

713
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'll smash everyone Brada, and I think he's

714
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: gonna fucking do it and uh yeah, pros gil Burns.

715
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: Though I get it people are overlooking him a little bit,

716
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: but I mean, I'm I'm I got the Google eyes

717
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: for tamaiov.

718
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 7: Brian, What's what's your play?

719
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: Do you have a strong play on Mackenzie durn versus

720
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: t Shirt Toro?

721
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I had an interesting one. Yeah fight. I'm curious

722
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 7: if you're gonna play this fight.

723
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play this fight. I've always played Mackenzie Dern.

724
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: She is.

725
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: One of my favorite fighters for numerous reasons. But she's amazing,

726
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: Like literally, ever since she came back from how many kid?

727
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: Her bodies look great, her cardios look great, she's aggressive,

728
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: her stand ups looking great, her wrestling is coming along.

729
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: But just imagine if she could take everyone down how

730
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: good she is because she's light years above those females

731
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: on the ground, like she is fucking dangerous off her back,

732
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: on top everywhere but Tornado. Tisa Torres, oh gee of

733
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: the game. She looked great against Angela Hill and Torres's

734
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: biggest thing was she went on a four fight skin

735
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: in UFC. Now she's on three fights winning streak. Her

736
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: biggest thing, in my opinion, was she just didn't go

737
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: her corners like you have the cardio, just go. She

738
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't throw. And now in the angel Hill fight, she

739
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: went after Angel Hill and Angel Hill's a badass and

740
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: they went out. I was like one of my fights

741
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: of the night. I like t Sha here by decision.

742
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a great fight for Teacher.

743
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: I think her footworks and she's faster it works, would

744
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: be a little bit better. I think Mackenzie Dern's gonna

745
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: play bully ball a little bit. She's gonna wanna throw

746
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: her strikes and kind of clinch up try and take

747
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: her down. I think that's gonna be unsuccessful. I like

748
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: Teacha Torres by decision here. I think she's just gonna

749
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: outpoint her. Don't see it finished. If you're gonna play

750
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: a finish, you want to hedge out. Mackenzie Durny can

751
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: snatch anything at any point. So you've got McKenzie durned

752
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: by submission. But Teasa Torres, I believe has never been submitted.

753
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: So I like tours By decision there.

754
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think largely we're all aligned. Like for me,

755
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 7: just Tores in this current form, like I wouldn't be

756
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 7: fading her, so I would not be betting against Tisha

757
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 7: right now until maybe she regressed a little bit. I

758
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 7: think she's on a very good trajectory right now. All Right,

759
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 7: before we let you go, I just want to get

760
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 7: some thoughts on the title fights. We'll start with the

761
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 7: main event. I don't know anybody out there laying minus

762
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 7: seven twenty and you gotta be careful too with parlay

763
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 7: fodder as well, huge price for a men's title fight.

764
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 7: How do you handicap the chances for chance some jump?

765
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: You know, thirty five?

766
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 7: Big gun?

767
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but thirty five is kind of the age the

768
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: ship or get off the pot type age right now?

769
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: In this division, Zombie's had a lot of opportunities. I

770
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: think there was a stat that he hasn't been in

771
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 3: a five round fight since like twenty eleven. He's fought

772
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: to everyone. He's taking long breaks, and know one wasn't

773
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: really his his, you know, doing he had to take

774
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: the military break. But I just I like Volkanowski here man.

775
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: I the first time I was on this show back

776
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: in September, I picked Orteg over Volkanowski. I picked Max

777
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: Holloway over Wolkanoski. Every time, I constantly disrespect Alice Volkanowski

778
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: and he blew me the fuck away and take a

779
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: fight that deep guillotine. I thought it was curtains, right,

780
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: and then he gets out of that and then immediately,

781
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: almost like two minutes later, into a triangle, which is

782
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: his fucking move gets out of that. The heart this

783
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: guy has, I mean, you're gonna have to kill him

784
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: in there. You're gonna have to kill him. And I

785
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: just don't think Zombie is gonna be able to do that.

786
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: And I think Zombie going to fight ready in Arizona

787
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: was an amazing move. Great coaches, great training partners. But

788
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: he's a little stiff right. His footwork's not that great.

789
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: He likes the counter and catch you with his big power.

790
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: That's that's what he has. He does have overall game

791
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: where you're not gonna implement that against Volkanoski. And I

792
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: think Volkanowski's footwork, his angles, his movement, his cardio. I

793
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: think his power's a little underrated too. I mean, he's

794
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: been fighting some dudes with some pretty fucking solid chance.

795
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: I do think he can crack a little bit to

796
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: improve that number. Because I'm not touching this straight, I'm

797
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: not touching this arl Uh. I think Volkanowski. If your

798
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: mind is seven to twenty and your pound for pounds

799
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: top five in the world, you gotta look for a finish.

800
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: So I think Volkanowski maybe late fight Tko fourth to

801
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: fifth round to put a stamp on it. Hey, I'm

802
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: main event, which I think Gon and Sternly should be

803
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: the min event. But I'm the main event. I'm the

804
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: big dog in the yard. I'm minus seven twenty. It

805
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: might blow up to eight hundred when we get the

806
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: actual fight.

807
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 9: Leak.

808
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: You gotta fit, you gotta put a stamp on that.

809
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: And I think that's his focus here. I think he

810
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: wants to finish well.

811
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say for recreational betters who are

812
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 6: just looking to have a little bit of fun, right

813
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 6: like put a little scratch on a knockout or submission prop.

814
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 7: But sitting on a decision ticket sounds awful.

815
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, And I'll sit.

816
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 7: All night waiting for multiplied decision.

817
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, you gotta have some action. Yeah, I'm

818
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: gonna play. I'm not gonna touch a parlay. Wise, a

819
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: lot of people, the value boys are coming out screaming,

820
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: you know, zombies got the value. He's been around for

821
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. It's a crazy number.

822
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: But I just respect bolkan Oski. I'm done disrespecting them.

823
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 9: I like him. I like him.

824
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 6: By t k O here late, all right, before we

825
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: let you fly, since I believe I'm having some technical

826
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 6: issues Boca ratone. Obviously Ray Longo is a part of

827
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 6: this program. Didn't stop Ken Flow from picking Pieodrian though,

828
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 6: Jon Sterling BP forgot Pan is a pretty big favorite here.

829
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 6: Some would say deservedly so other people like that disrespectful adjective.

830
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 6: What do you think about al jose chances? And ultimately,

831
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 6: will you have a wager?

832
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 7: Sir?

833
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna have a wager? And uh man, I

834
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: hey what I could go four hours in this fight.

835
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: I don't ingest a lot of Like if I've seen

836
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: a fight once, I don't have many abilities. My one abilities.

837
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: If I watched a fight once, I got it pretty

838
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: locked in this fucking head of mine. I've rewatched this

839
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: like four or five times this week, and there's so

840
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: many layers to this fight. That's why I think it

841
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: should be the main event. They fucking hate each other.

842
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: The legal need with the title change, I mean, it's crazy.

843
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: First things First, though, as an MMA fan, how dare

844
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: the fans out there boo and hate Sterling forgetting need

845
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: in the fucking head illegally, Like, what are we doing here? Guys?

846
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Be better?

847
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 2: Right?

848
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: I can take the screaming obnoxious shit, but booing al Joe,

849
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: who's a fucking star. He's one A one B depending

850
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: how you look at at one thirty five, and we're

851
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: we're also not liking him. He's got Nina fucking head, Like,

852
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: what are we doing here?

853
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: The guy?

854
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: The guy's the fucking the man.

855
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: You know.

856
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: He's good look and he speaks well, exciting fighter. He's

857
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: a finisher as well, and I don't get that. So

858
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: MMA fans, shame on you, the best fans in the world,

859
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 3: How fucking dare you listen? These guys are, like I said,

860
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: one A one B. I like Petri jan He and

861
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: I let big props to Ray Longo as well, because

862
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: a lot of coaches, I've seen it myself where a

863
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: guy has kind of awkward striking and the little offbeat

864
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: and it's not maybe the most technical world. They kind

865
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: of get changed a little bit. The coach, as ego goes, no, no, no,

866
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: My fighters fight like this. Put your hands up like this,

867
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: do this, do this. We don't throw kicks that way.

868
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: Ray.

869
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: Let al Jo be Aljo the funk Master is the

870
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: funk Master for a reason. And his off beast striking,

871
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: I think, really put a pause in Yon in that

872
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: first round. Yon likes to read, he slows into the fight,

873
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: and Yan's the exact obvious. He does everything perfect, chin down,

874
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: hands up, marches ford. But I think if Aljo didn't

875
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: get clipped in that first round, one judge did have

876
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 3: a win in two rounds. I had al Jo losing

877
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: that first round only basically got clipped, got put down,

878
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: won the second round, and then uncharacteristically start to fade

879
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: in the third round. And I think he just rushed

880
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: a little bit. He threw like eighty punches within round

881
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: one and a round two or whatever. Just cut that

882
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: down by twenty percent. Love the volume. I love creating scrambles.

883
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: That's where he's the best. He scrambles, he gets your back.

884
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: It's fucking curtains, you know what I mean. And Aljoe

885
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: can do that to anybody. And so man, this is

886
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: just such a tough fight. Again, I could just keep

887
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: going on. And I'm gonna try to condense what I

888
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: got here, But listen the podcast loves al Joe. I

889
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: love al Joe. I've been on Aljo Fann since he

890
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: was on fucking Team Bomb Squad back in the day.

891
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: John Jones recruited him before he went to Sara Langa Like,

892
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: Team Bomb Squad used to have a terrible video blog

893
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: and I used to watch it late night at night

894
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: because I was a fucking addicted to everything. Yeah, and

895
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: so making a move of Sara Loanngga is important. I've

896
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: been Algrea forever. I love Ray.

897
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 7: I raise a great coach the right.

898
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: My mom's from Allong Island. My mom's a female version

899
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: of Ray Longer. That's why I custom. But you know,

900
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 3: Cody's obviously got coase. Listen. I like al Joe and

901
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not being a homer. I sat down.

902
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, Brian, pick the fight

903
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: you think is gonna win, put your head down, don't

904
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: care about you know. Cody's gonna delete your number. Ray's

905
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: gonna send guys a knock on your door. Get the winner, right.

906
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 3: And I sat down, And when you're giving me Aljo

907
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: at this number, it screams me to put a couple

908
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: of units on it, because it only takes one scramble,

909
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: one position for al Jo to get your back of me.

910
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 3: People are forgetting that Alja. What Aljo did to Corey Senhagen,

911
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: who is an elite guy, he can do that to anybody.

912
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: And I know everyone loves Petrion because he's such a

913
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: fucking beast, but man, I mean, at that number, you're

914
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: disrespecting al Joe. It's kind of the reverse of Tramaia.

915
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: Tramaia's getting all this hype and everyone fucking loves him,

916
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: and now the public opinion Aljo is a little lower,

917
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: so you're getting a great number in him. I'm playing

918
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 3: great numbers out here. I'm trying to fucking win, play

919
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 3: great numbers. And I like al Jo. I think al Joe.

920
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna fight again. Obviously. I think this

921
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: will be a trilogy fight. But uh, I can't wait

922
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 3: for this fucking fight.

923
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm fucking You're.

924
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can tell I love it. Uh, We're not

925
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 6: gonna make you shave your head if al Joe loses.

926
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: I think I appreciate that. I appreciate I will again.

927
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: I got clippers ready.

928
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: Boys, Well you're and we'll just save that wager because

929
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 6: obviously the uh alexia Olynic fight is not happening, but

930
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 6: eventually there's gonna come a fight and you're out there

931
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 6: all right. Well, you can hear more from Brian on

932
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 6: this fight cat top to bottom later in the week.

933
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 6: Uh MMA takes podcast. At MMA Takes Podcast, it shows

934
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 6: how much of a non ego guy you are that

935
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 6: your handle is not Brian Patriots, just the MMA Takes

936
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 6: podcast guys, just an MMA fan trying to provide.

937
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to do. I'm not a I

938
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: don't charge for picks and then if you come at

939
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: me in a losing week, I'm not going to block you.

940
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: Like soft serve ice cream guys out there.

941
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 6: Imagine if I said you weren't an ego guy and

942
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 6: then like you charged for picks or something.

943
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 3: I can't do it as stop. It makes me sick.

944
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 7: Yeah. Hey, well you're on a hot streak.

945
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we look forward to uh to talking to

946
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 6: you in advance of the next fight are coming up

947
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 6: April sixteenth.

948
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 7: I believe it's a sente Luke and.

949
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 6: Uh this channels allow Muhammad, So uh, hey, have a

950
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: great day at a better evening and Uh, it's good

951
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 6: to see your shining face as always.

952
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: Brother.

953
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: Thanks boys, I'll see you later, big gun.

954
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 6: See that's three with us on the Annak and Florian Podcast.

955
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: Let's get to the Ray Longo Minute.

956
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

957
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking trucks.

958
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: That's what I want.

959
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: The Ray Longo Minute the John Nik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

960
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 6: Ray Longo now joins us as he does every week

961
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 6: here on the Annak and Florian Podcast. So, uh, just

962
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 6: wrapped up with a more high profile program as I

963
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 6: understand it.

964
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: Yet.

965
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Yes, embedded was here today. Wow, Wow, this is big

966
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: once again.

967
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 11: It's real once again. Al Joe looked really good today.

968
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 11: I'm very excited.

969
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: You know.

970
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 11: Look, we got the weight cut in the rehigh to go,

971
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 11: but if the fight was today, I got the better guy.

972
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 6: He looks like an absolute monster. Kent Flow watched the

973
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 6: fight back.

974
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 7: I will.

975
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 6: I have yet to do so, but I think he

976
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 6: had some thoughts in terms of, you know, the first

977
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 6: fight and some things that maybe al Jo could have

978
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 6: seen that you guys might have seen on film.

979
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 7: Kent Fler, but Ray.

980
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about actually the weightcut first,

981
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: because you mentioned that. I think a lot of people

982
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: forget or may have forgotten that he didn't have a

983
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: great weightcut the first time around. I know he was

984
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: trying some new things. How have things changed and how

985
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 4: is that going so far?

986
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 11: Okay, Look, we talked about it, look before the fight,

987
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 11: like the day before the fight. That's why even the

988
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 11: weightcut thing was new to me when he said it.

989
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 11: But look, I think al Jo's an honest guy, and

990
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 11: I had this conversation with him like months ago. He's like,

991
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 11: you got to tell me the truth if it was

992
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 11: really a weight cut, like a bad weightcut, and that's

993
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 11: going to make a big difference. He said it was

994
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 11: horrible and he didn't have the energy. He just wasn't himself.

995
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 11: And you gotta remember now he's had the operation also,

996
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 11: so we always had that injury in the back of

997
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 11: his mind.

998
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Look, mentally, he's in a good spot.

999
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 11: But Kenny, you know, you know that bewitching week of

1000
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 11: cutting weight and not only sometimes you cut weight and

1001
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 11: that's great and then the rehi go south. Right, so

1002
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 11: everything goes good, Like again based on what I'm looking at,

1003
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 11: the better guy.

1004
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: Right, you know, as I went back and watched the fight.

1005
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: I thought the first two rounds were for al Jo,

1006
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: but what I saw was it seemed like it wasn't

1007
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 4: sustainable that the pacing. It seemed like he was maybe

1008
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: a little bit excited, overly excited, or.

1009
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe too nervous.

1010
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: But when I saw the fight, I was like, al

1011
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: Jo was doing great, and then he stopped being as

1012
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: verse as varied with his attack. He wasn't mixing it

1013
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: up as much, and I think that's when he started

1014
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: to allow pyotr Jan back into the fight. What was

1015
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: your sense of that fight going in there and what

1016
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: kind of I guess adjustments are you guys hoping to

1017
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: make in this rematch.

1018
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, look, Kenny, I think you'll agree with me because

1019
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 11: a lot of people have watched the fight and say,

1020
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 11: you know what, for a guy that didn't feel good,

1021
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 11: he was doing really good.

1022
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: He really was. Now, the aesthetics of some of that

1023
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: fight were awful.

1024
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 11: You know, he's flopping around, he got taken down like

1025
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 11: school yard tripped, and you know somebody's throwing punches half

1026
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 11: assed and lobbing his kicks out there.

1027
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: It's not going to happen this time you know, we've

1028
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: talked about it. I think we made the right corrections.

1029
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 11: And you know, me and Al told him, I think

1030
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 11: last week we're just happy that he did his whole

1031
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 11: camp here, we're all vibing together. I think it'll make

1032
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 11: a difference. But Al just said, look, he goes Honestly,

1033
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 11: I could have had the camp anywhere. I was not

1034
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 11: going to perform that night. So he's he's sticking to that.

1035
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 11: He's healthy, his head's in the right spot, he's super

1036
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 11: fucking talented. His ground game looks off the charts, and

1037
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 11: I'm super excited for this fight. For a plus three

1038
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 11: sixty's that's one hundred percent long.

1039
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a huge price.

1040
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1041
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 6: Have you guys had a single conversation excuse me about

1042
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 6: this fight being in a bigger octagon than the first

1043
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 6: one was in?

1044
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 7: Like, was it that first fight in the Apex?

1045
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: First fight was in the Apex? Yeah? Crazy.

1046
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 11: And I told this to al Jo too, And I'm

1047
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 11: not making a big deal out of it, but you know,

1048
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 11: like even during the sparring, when Matt Sarah is here

1049
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 11: and he's coaching him on the ground, it's a huge different. Unfortunately,

1050
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 11: Matt's not going to make the fight. But he has

1051
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 11: been here for the camp. But for me and everybody around,

1052
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 11: it's it's a big deal. It really is. So you know,

1053
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 11: we're we're I might say that last fight was probably

1054
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 11: the worst corner job I've ever had in my life.

1055
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 11: And again I was with three guys I've never in

1056
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 11: the corner before.

1057
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: That's not me.

1058
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 7: I'm not that fight. I know we talked a lot of.

1059
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 11: I'm not that guy, man, and it's I'm not blaming anybody,

1060
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 11: it's but for me, I just it just wasn't good.

1061
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 11: I'll be way at this time. You know, it's me,

1062
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 11: Alm Marob, Dennis Bazooka, everybody's together. We'll roll on the

1063
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 11: same page. I think it's gonna make a difference. But look,

1064
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 11: he's got to go out and prove it, you know.

1065
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 11: But you know, even as of today when he left me,

1066
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 11: I couldn't be happy.

1067
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: I can't.

1068
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 11: I couldn't be in a better spot. And it is

1069
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 11: what it is, man, That's that's it. I'm excited for

1070
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 11: the fight and he's gonna fucking fight him. There's no

1071
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 11: question about it.

1072
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 7: I think it.

1073
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's overlooked, but it really does make a difference.

1074
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: Both when you're in the corner and when you're the fighter.

1075
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: When you have a group that hasn't been together before

1076
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: in their corning for the first time, no one knows

1077
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 4: kind of when to go first, who has what role.

1078
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 4: I think it's super important, whether it comes from the

1079
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: fighter or otherwise, of knowing who has the role, what

1080
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 4: everybody's role is, all that stuff. It can be really

1081
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 4: confusing of when you're supposed to say something, who's supposed

1082
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: to say what?

1083
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 7: Uh of?

1084
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: You know, maybe chaos being in the corner, confusion that

1085
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: that's the real thing, and both of those dynamics.

1086
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 7: It's it's it's tricky, man.

1087
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1088
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 11: So he I believe he loves everybody in that corner,

1089
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 11: which is a big deal. You know, him and Morob

1090
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 11: obviously their bonds is crazy. Him and al have been

1091
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 11: friends for years, Bazooker, he loves me. It's it's it's

1092
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 11: gonna be a different thing. I think he's gonna put

1093
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 11: his mind in the right spot. And again he's got

1094
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 11: to make the correction on the eating. And you know,

1095
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 11: because I said to him, Algie, you had fucking forty fights, Like,

1096
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 11: why all of a sudden do you and he he

1097
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 11: had an explanation for But look, I think he's he's

1098
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 11: a quirky guy, but he's honest.

1099
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that guy's ever lied to me. And

1100
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1101
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 11: So I'm basing a lot of what I'm saying on

1102
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 11: what my conversations with him were. I one hundred percent

1103
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 11: believe him. Uh, he wins this fight. I'll even switch

1104
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 11: some of the things I do as a coach because

1105
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 11: I'm still learning obviously, and you know, just to even

1106
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 11: get in the groove with him, you know so, But

1107
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 11: anytime he's been in front of me of this camp,

1108
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 11: I think he's been absolutely perfect.

1109
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 6: Well, if your conviction doesn't move the betting line, that

1110
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 6: I don't know what would. And candidly, as a coach

1111
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 6: or broadcaster or anybody, if you're not getting better, I

1112
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 6: would think you're getting worse.

1113
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 7: You're probably not staying the same. You're either getting better

1114
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 7: or getting worse.

1115
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 6: So I did go to school for journalism, Like am

1116
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 6: I allowed to ask why Matt Sarah's not going to

1117
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 6: be in the corner or no.

1118
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 11: You know, he committed to something with the police force

1119
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 11: that was kind of a big deal, and I think, uh,

1120
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 11: you know, based on not being there the last time.

1121
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 11: Maybe everything you have to talk, you have to actually

1122
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 11: ask him though you know one hundred percent not talking

1123
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 11: for him, John, because you want him attacking me for

1124
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 11: the third.

1125
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 7: Yes, you know, I'm glad. I'm busy. I don't know

1126
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 7: what to do.

1127
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 6: Maybe Cody can get in touch with him. But uh, anyway,

1128
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 6: Naz's fight did not last very long. Congratulations on a

1129
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 6: big win. Seems like you might really have something here.

1130
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, big big win.

1131
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 11: Uhnaz is a killer man is boxing is He does

1132
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 11: everything really well. So you're going to see that kid

1133
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 11: in the in the really near future. Uh, probably this summer,

1134
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 11: I'm anticipating. But he's he's on fire right now, which

1135
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 11: is good.

1136
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 7: That's great.

1137
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 11: All right ahead, Can I just say one thing, and

1138
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 11: for all the minute men out there, listen, when Al

1139
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 11: Joe comes out, I want the USA chance. I want

1140
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 11: people screaming, you know what I mean, because not for

1141
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 11: anything but me and Rubinstein have a bet McK maine

1142
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 11: that's holding on money and whoever gets the loudest of fluids.

1143
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 11: You know, I'm just worried about Rubenstein because I looked

1144
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 11: up the word treason. I'm afraid he might get a rent. No,

1145
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 11: I'm not even joking, he might get arrested for trees

1146
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 11: and he might not even.

1147
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 7: Make the fight. So right, Danny rubs Jewish.

1148
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 6: I think he's still getting a Russian flag tattooed after

1149
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 6: the fight.

1150
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 11: If I'm not, then then we'll definitely put him behind

1151
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 11: bars for sure. And I don't still there.

1152
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 6: But if you are an American fight fan and you're

1153
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 6: gonna be in the building in Jacksonville, take that as

1154
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 6: your rallying cry and get behind the stars and fucking

1155
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 6: stripes out here.

1156
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on.

1157
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 7: But if you're hit the building, yeah a bit you Yeah,

1158
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 7: you kid man. I mean.

1159
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 6: All right, So I have a few things UFC two

1160
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 6: seventy three related that I would like to get to

1161
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 6: with you. That's why I kind of wanted to congratulate

1162
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 6: nas and make sure we did that nice. Thank you,

1163
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 6: kam Zak Chimayav need I say more. He's minus five

1164
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 6: twenty five as the betting favorite against Gilbert Burns, who

1165
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 6: is number two in the world. Burns is plus three

1166
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 6: eighty five eighteenth UFC appearance. If I'm not mistaken for

1167
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns, he has been there, he has done that.

1168
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 6: He has fought for the UFC title. A segment of

1169
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 6: the population believed this is a disrespectful betting line. I

1170
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 6: kind of think that's a lazy take. I think that

1171
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 6: the betting line is kind of holding here, if not

1172
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 6: moving more towards Chimayev. So that certainly doesn't dovetail with

1173
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 6: whatever opinion is out there. You know, I'm very close

1174
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 6: to the Burns camp. I'm so excited to see what

1175
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 6: he can do with this opportunity. I want to get

1176
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 6: your thoughts on Kamzat Chimiyav and ultimately how competitive this

1177
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 6: fight is going to be relative to the betting.

1178
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: Cover look'd be.

1179
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 11: I I like Gilda Burns, He's one hundred, just a

1180
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 11: nice guy. But this this guy looks like he's just

1181
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 11: too big, too strong. Anything I see of him training,

1182
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 11: I really don't know much. You know, we watch what

1183
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 11: he does in the fights. He's been so dominant, But

1184
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 11: I mean, the guy's for real. His hands look real

1185
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 11: like again, his wrestling is off the charts. He's a

1186
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 11: handful man for anybody right now, I really do. I

1187
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 11: really believe that, and I you know, again, I think

1188
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 11: he's a guy that spaws hard.

1189
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: He's not going to be thrown by anything.

1190
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 11: You know, I don't is a major, major problem this kid,

1191
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 11: major problem.

1192
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 6: Dustin Pourier was gonna fight Kabi Normongo Matov, and again

1193
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 6: we've talked on this podcast about different approaches when you're

1194
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 6: gonna fight Kabib. Do you spend the entire training camp

1195
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 6: in bad positions or do you just make it a

1196
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 6: really boring fight and not even let them get close

1197
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 6: to your leg? But Dustin was saying in the lead

1198
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 6: up to the fight, you know, I really don't know

1199
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 6: what this guy's going to feel like until I grapple

1200
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 6: with him, and it turns out he feels like a

1201
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 6: fucking bear. And I think in a lot of respects

1202
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 6: for Gilbert, you know, you know, you let a little

1203
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 6: doubt creepy, you know, get back to your feet after

1204
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 6: Kamzat takes you down, and then all of a sudden,

1205
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 6: the crowd goes bananas. You know, the pressure of the

1206
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: world is on the shoulders of Kamzat Chimayav And even

1207
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 6: though Gilbert obviously feels some you know, there's a lot

1208
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 6: on the shoulders of Chimaia and he's put a lot

1209
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 6: of it there himself.

1210
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 4: You know, so yeah, listen, I think this is kind

1211
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: of a good time to be fighting uh Hamzat Chimaya

1212
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: because we still don't know a whole lot. We haven't

1213
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 4: seen him challenged, and again, he is such a big favorite.

1214
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: And for Gilbert Burns, who has been fighting at the

1215
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 4: highest level, especially as of late, it's a perfect scenario

1216
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: for him. It doesn't mean he's gonna go out there

1217
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 4: and be successful straight away, but you know, if you're

1218
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: gonna fight a guy with a bunch of hype, you

1219
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: know at this stage this this is the time to

1220
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: do it. So I think it's a it's a pretty

1221
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: good place to be for Gilbert Burns and uh, I

1222
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be an interesting fight.

1223
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: Who do you think wins that fight?

1224
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 4: So I I picked I picked Hamzat. I think she

1225
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: might have gets it done. I picked al Jo and yeah,

1226
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: but you know, I think we're gonna learn a lot

1227
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: about Hamzad either way.

1228
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 6: Ray I will just say I just was at the

1229
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 6: Institute of Human Performance yesterday and talked to Rio Santana,

1230
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 6: who I work with, and Gilbert obviously works with j C.

1231
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 7: Santana and Rio y.

1232
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I don't feel like it's coach

1233
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 6: speaker hyperbole when they tell me, you know that he's

1234
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty eight pounds and ripped out of

1235
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 6: his mind and he now is able to like eat,

1236
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 6: and he's going in a fight week in a really

1237
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 6: good place, you know, like Hayes in the barn for him,

1238
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 6: I mean, he couldn't have put himself in a better

1239
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 6: position to try to win this fight.

1240
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 7: You know.

1241
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 6: I just think maybe we could be talking about weight

1242
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 6: classes for a reason on Monday morning. You know, I

1243
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, with Hamzat it's like, you know,

1244
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 6: there are people like me who get criticized for giving

1245
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 6: him too much credit, right, and then if he beats Gilbert,

1246
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 6: people are gonna say Burns is a lightweight. He lost

1247
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 6: to Dan Hooker, you know. So, I mean, you're not

1248
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 6: gonna please everybody, but I think he's the real deal.

1249
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 6: I have never seen a prospect like HAMZACHIMAIV. And I've

1250
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 6: been sitting in that chair for eleven years, So take

1251
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 6: it or leave it.

1252
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's uh.

1253
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 11: I think I just look, I think the guy's a handful.

1254
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 11: And again, any training footage I've seen out of him,

1255
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 11: I'm not seeing anything that could be exploited at this point.

1256
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 11: But you know, like again, the beauty of MMA is

1257
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 11: you know your zig when you should have zagged, and

1258
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 11: the fight's over and anything can happen.

1259
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know, he just seems even mindset is

1260
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: just on point.

1261
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 3: You know, he's not that confidence.

1262
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 11: Yeah he doesn't like yeah, yeah, And I don't think

1263
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 11: it's I don't think it's fake confidence.

1264
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean no, I you know I'm buying.

1265
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 11: I think the guy's for real. I think he loves

1266
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 11: to train, he loves to fight. Uh, and I think

1267
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 11: that's a dangerous guy. I don't care when you get him.

1268
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 11: But should that line be that big? I mean, I'd

1269
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 11: be a little insulted, I guess if I was Gilbert Burns.

1270
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: But he's he's he's got a major problem in front

1271
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: of him.

1272
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 6: I know I'm a fucking amateur Ken flow, but I

1273
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 6: can't wait for the Leech Lee Jing Lyng?

1274
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 7: When's his next fight? Has he fought since the Chimaya fight? Cody?

1275
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 6: Right, Because you know, let's see how you know the

1276
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 6: rest of the Leech's career looks. If that's such an

1277
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 6: easy fucking fight, goddamn.

1278
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: Well, what do you what's your point? On that.

1279
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 6: No, it's just that, you know, what do people think

1280
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 6: of Lee jing Lyon right, that he's some fucking slouch

1281
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 6: with double digit UFC wins?

1282
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 7: You know, I mean and even.

1283
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: If he you know, even if he was a slouch,

1284
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: he he got crushed.

1285
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 11: Immediately, you know what I mean. So he's not that

1286
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 11: much of a slouch. You know, I didn't see that.

1287
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 11: Did you think that was gonna happen that quick?

1288
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 6: Well, I know, not necessarily, No, I mean no, I

1289
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 6: just uh, I've been on the coms out hype train

1290
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 6: for a long time.

1291
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1292
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 11: It just looks like he's doing the right thing to me.

1293
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 11: And again I'm not totally following him, but whatever I

1294
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 11: see go well, you know, yeah, oh, and he's big.

1295
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 11: You know, it's not like he's undersized, you know, he's

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 11: he's he's a major fucking problem.

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00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 6: And with respect to say Patty Pimblet, who looks like

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00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 6: he's right twenty LB's right, like wants to he wants

1299
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 6: to doing this, you know, twenty four seven, three six,

1300
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: you've like fucking beast in twenty five eight COB's act

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00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 6: you maia, you know it.

1302
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: Look look here here's two things.

1303
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 11: Right, So even if you compare him to Patty, right,

1304
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 11: I mean that looks like hype. The Chamayah thing doesn't

1305
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 11: look like that much hype to me. Like if you

1306
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 11: even compare it to that, you could see the hype

1307
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 11: and Patty. But he's got a long way to go.

1308
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 11: This guy's getting hype. I think he's right where he

1309
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 11: wants to be.

1310
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: The only X.

1311
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 11: Factor is you know, we had the COVID and that's

1312
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 11: definitely not a joke. I've seen guys with that Longhol syndrome,

1313
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 11: and I've seen him if that maybe is a problem,

1314
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 11: Like come here, hold on one second, got a special

1315
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 11: guest for you, special only here.

1316
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 7: Tell me now even better, my man, if you're just finest.

1317
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 6: We got to the corner over there, literally in the

1318
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 6: flesh one of the greatest band of weights in the world.

1319
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 7: Great to see.

1320
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that.

1321
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 8: Robbed, Thank you for having you guys.

1322
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 7: It is great, toe very good.

1323
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 12: I feel very good and happy because we just finished

1324
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 12: a very good training camp.

1325
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 8: I'll join.

1326
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:33,479
Speaker 12: He feels amazing. Takedown like, timing, striking, everything's on point. Yeah,

1327
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 12: he looks awesome.

1328
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 6: Push this guy, how are you doing with your shoulder

1329
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 6: and clavigal and all that.

1330
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 8: I'm good, I'm able to training and I feel good.

1331
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 8: I'm good.

1332
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: He just puts tape on. That's good there.

1333
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll be in the corner in Jacksonville this weekend.

1334
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: I take it.

1335
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, uh, I'll be all just connect to.

1336
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 6: And are you going to get one of these other

1337
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 6: bandam weights to fight you? I feel like some of

1338
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 6: these guys might be avoiding you, That's what I'm hearing.

1339
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, like he.

1340
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: Wants he's ready to go in June or July's ready?

1341
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 8: Yeah exactly?

1342
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 12: Whoever, I'm just smooth than ready, and who would be

1343
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 12: I don't care, Like, of course, like I think I

1344
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 12: deservered somebody from the top five because I'm wrong six

1345
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 12: and because if I have seven restrike, I think they

1346
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 12: have to give me somebody who is in.

1347
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 8: Front of me.

1348
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 12: So but but but either way, I'm fine. I just

1349
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 12: want to like, first, I want to enjoy. I'll just

1350
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 12: victory and after I'm ready.

1351
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 6: Well, just so you know, I don't know if you

1352
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 6: listen to the Anak and Florian podcast, but you get

1353
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 6: a lot of love on these airwaves, and uh, you know,

1354
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 6: we're excited to see you make your to the championship

1355
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 6: whenever that happens. I know your teammate has the belt.

1356
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 6: But and uh, a lot of love here, my man,

1357
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 6: and we appreciate you hopping on for a few minutes.

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01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 8: Brother, thank you so much.

1359
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 12: And uh, it's a really big, big honor for me

1360
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 12: to hear. Yeah, I've been yeah, sometimes i've been listening.

1361
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 8: I'm not watching every episode, but yes.

1362
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 7: That's quite all right.

1363
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 6: And I hope I didn't bother you the other night

1364
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 6: walking out of the arena when I was uh no, no,

1365
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 6: a lot of women around you.

1366
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: So unbelievable. No guy code with him. Oh my god.

1367
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: He went right back today.

1368
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 8: Always happy to see you.

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 7: Well, see you, and uh we'll see in Jacksonville. All right, Thank.

1370
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 12: You, guys, thank you, thank you.

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01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 7: Sur prise appearance on the Anaic em Florian podcast. That

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01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 7: is great.

1373
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 6: I mean, if I couldn't have al Joe right then

1374
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 6: and there, Rob was would be my second choice.

1375
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 7: I got a little bit nervous. I thought it was sterling.

1376
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 11: And again I gotta tell you, I mean that's the

1377
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 11: beauty of him. He wouldn't have fought because al Jo

1378
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 11: was fighting. He's he's just a great teammate, team play

1379
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 11: it to the max, and I don't know, you know,

1380
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 11: I think the world of a guy so on.

1381
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 6: All levels, Rob will except a fight with a broken shoulder,

1382
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 6: fight with it and not even blank. He's got to

1383
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: pass those medicals, all right. Last thing before we let

1384
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 6: you fly, Alexander Volkanowski. If you think he's gonna win

1385
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 6: the featherweight championship this weekend, a straight wager of seven

1386
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 6: hundred dollars pays you one hundred dollars.

1387
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 7: I mean, this is a huge betting line.

1388
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 6: And I don't know if as a coach, when you

1389
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 6: have a plus five hundred underdog. I think you know,

1390
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 6: Ken Flow was on the call when Matt Sarah fought

1391
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 6: George St.

1392
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 7: Pierre.

1393
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if you change your risk

1394
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 6: mitigation processes when you're a plus five hundred underdog, as

1395
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 6: the Korean zombie is. But I don't know how competitive

1396
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 6: you think the main event is before we let you go.

1397
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 11: I mean, I think Volkanowski's winning, but uh, I think

1398
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 11: it'll be competitive, all right, you know, but I think

1399
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 11: Volkanowski gets the job. I'm probably thinking decision in this too, right, Well,

1400
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 11: what are the lines on it? Volkanowski win him by decision.

1401
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 6: I don't have the propositions this early in the week,

1402
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 6: but obviously you're getting a far juice of your price

1403
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 6: if you if you can pick the round or the method,

1404
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 6: you know, So yeah, maybe that's the way to go.

1405
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1406
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1407
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 6: We broadcast like finishes, so hopefully your guy can fucking

1408
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 6: produce one.

1409
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 7: In the co headliner, I love you.

1410
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: I love you guys too.

1411
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 11: When I say I'm just I want to w I

1412
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 11: don't give a fuck how we get there?

1413
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 7: Amen, brother, Well, I hope you get it. Man. You

1414
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 7: really are a legend.

1415
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 6: You know, the way you approach your craft, and you know,

1416
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 6: having champions in three different eras, and you know, we're

1417
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 6: just thankful that you continue to take our call. And

1418
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 6: uh you know, tell Matt's Aarah. We're gonna keep trying

1419
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 6: to crease you as much as possible that.

1420
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not touching I. We'll talk about that

1421
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: one I see.

1422
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, will, oh we will, you will.

1423
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: We will know what you're dealing with.

1424
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 6: That's why I yeh five. Oh wait, he's got my number.

1425
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 6: He called me any time, you know, right here, right here.

1426
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, it's gonna be a good night. Look,

1427
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

1428
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 11: Even the embedded guy goes the culture of this gym,

1429
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 11: just the excitement today and the camaraderie, and obviously they

1430
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 11: got the witness others sparring with some of the up

1431
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 11: and coming guys.

1432
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: But man, still going.

1433
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 11: Man, you know, just when I want to get out,

1434
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 11: they dragged me back in the old saying. But you know,

1435
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 11: I love it. I think it's keeping me young. And

1436
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 11: I'm just gonna ride the train until the fucking wheels

1437
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 11: come off. And one of them is already off, so

1438
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 11: you'll see me limping around, but I'll.

1439
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: Give a fuck. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Today I

1440
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: feel good.

1441
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 7: All right. Well, the men Matter are happy to funding.

1442
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. They got a rally. I want that.

1443
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: I want I gotta win that bet.

1444
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 7: That's the first thing. Hey, get a win. Let's have

1445
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 7: a championship Monday next week.

1446
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, buddy. Thanks guys.

1447
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 6: Here on the Anna and Florian Podcast. If you did

1448
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 6: happen to get a Ray Longo Fight Team or Sarah

1449
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 6: Loongo piece of merchandise on our website, it's a limited

1450
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 6: edition because they're gone. They're all off the website, so

1451
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 6: that's a conversation for another day. All right, before we

1452
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 6: get on out of here, we call on our esteem producer,

1453
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 6: whose name is Cody Merrow. That's a three shot for

1454
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 6: you on television. Hi, Cody, how's it going fine?

1455
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 7: As well as it could?

1456
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: Think?

1457
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 11: Then?

1458
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 7: Oh well, I know.

1459
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 6: Maybe someday for this Loyal doesn't even know the details

1460
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: right now as of this taping. He will find them

1461
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 6: out on the other side. But Cody, what do you

1462
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 6: have for us before we get the fuck out of here?

1463
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 10: Huh well, so at some point I'm gonna come up

1464
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 10: with a stinger for this. But right now, the Marrow

1465
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 10: seconds a couple of quick points for you guys, Gasolum

1466
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 10: out versus Du plus C. Yeah, second time this fight

1467
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 10: was canceled the two seventy three Hope cage. You can

1468
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 10: get healthy, maybe fight in Arizona something he was talking

1469
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 10: about for his next bout.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting, Kenny, because I believe Anthony Fluffy Hernandez was

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 6: gonna fight Drake Is du plus C and then they

1472
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 6: got a replacement for him, and now Dracis is off

1473
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 6: the card completely.

1474
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 7: So yeah, that that is eventual. Boy, Yeah, rough, rough

1475
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 7: what else you got?

1476
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 10: So number two bandam way all time leaders takedown defense,

1477
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 10: takedown accuracy YON takedown defense eighty nine points six percent,

1478
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 10: fourth all time. His accuracy is sixty one point five percent,

1479
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 10: third all time. Al Jamayn is tenth all time with

1480
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 10: twenty one takedowns. The man in his corner is number

1481
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 10: one with fifty plus fifteen differential between the second guy

1482
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 10: submission wins in all weight classes. Al Jaman has four,

1483
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 10: the man next to me has seven for seventh all

1484
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 10: time in the UFC for submission wins. So I just

1485
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 10: thought Kenny needed a shout out there with the shirt

1486
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 10: Hey lot so really quick ones on CHAMAIEV ten and

1487
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 10: oh seven first round finish, has never seen a third round.

1488
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 10: One hundred eighteen strikes in his debut. That's plus one

1489
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 10: twenty two differential for the whole fight uh ten days

1490
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 10: later sixty eight and zero. But does a striking shutout

1491
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 10: you know, see strikeouts.

1492
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 7: In m M A shutouts in MMA.

1493
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 10: Quickest fighter in the UFC to three and oh by

1494
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 10: thirty nine days, one nine and two strikes in one year,

1495
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 10: four fifty K bonuses in his first four fights, which

1496
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 10: has never been done.

1497
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 7: Really also never been done.

1498
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 10: Nobody's ever been slapped at the oscars that happened last weekend.

1499
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 10: Everyone saw that the detail will be up on ESPN

1500
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 10: sooner rather than.

1501
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 7: Who got slapped? Who was it? Who got slapped?

1502
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 6: Code Chris Chris Rock. Shout out to Chris Rock, by

1503
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 6: the way, Yeah, I'll believe it at.

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01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 10: That listener he was in Boston is actually where he

1505
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 10: first talked about.

1506
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 7: The fights a lot again.

1507
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I will just say for girl dads out there,

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 10: I'm not a dad myself, but King Richard, the Oscar

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Speaker 10: Pro winning performance by Will Smith was absolutely fantastic. So

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Speaker 10: highly recommend everyone watched that. Really good messages there, just

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Speaker 10: a great dad, you know, pushing his kids to bigger

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Speaker 10: and better things.

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Speaker 6: I'd have to end my Will Smith boycott then to

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Speaker 6: watch the camer No, I really want to see it.

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Speaker 6: There's really no boycott. All right, We got to get

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Speaker 6: on out of here, spirited show today. Thank you to

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Speaker 6: our guest James Krausray Longo, Big Gun, Brian Petrie. If

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Speaker 6: you want merchandise, sees Kenny Florian t shirts flying off

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Speaker 6: the shelves and at florin podcast dot com. Those are

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Speaker 6: still there for purchase. One more sleep merch can be

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Speaker 6: had at millions dot co and a rear naked choke

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Speaker 6: workshop coming to a UFC gym near you. But in

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Speaker 6: the meantime, Kenny Florianmartial Arts dot com Kenny Florianmartial Arts

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Speaker 6: dot com for all of your Brazilian jiu jitsu needs.

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Speaker 6: And honestly, you know, I have a lot of fun

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Speaker 6: with my lack of training, but I do believe that

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Speaker 6: fundamentally this is the best thing on the internet right

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Speaker 6: now if you really want to approach jiu jitsu the

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Speaker 6: right way.

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Speaker 7: In twenty twenty two, we.

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Speaker 6: Will be back next weekend, probably late Sunday night on

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Speaker 6: YouTube with our next episode. We will recap UFC two

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Speaker 6: seventy three and we'll see what Gilbert Burns has for Comzachimia.

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Speaker 6: We'll see if we have a new champion undisputed. Why

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Speaker 6: is that either bandam weight or featherweight. Thanks to our

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Speaker 6: producer Cody Merrow for Ken Flow, I'm John Annack saying

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Speaker 6: so long for now until next week, do not text

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Speaker 6: and drive.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to the fucking leech Lee Jing Leon. We'll

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Speaker 7: talk Lee Yo later.