WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Monday Hour Four

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Ketty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty Strong. A new week headed into Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 3>This could be a big week for your life today.

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<v Speaker 3>Today you're under the tutelage of our general manager.

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<v Speaker 4>The Republican Party, both Houses of Congress and the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're going to grow the DEAFA sets and leave

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<v Speaker 4>bloated entitlements alone. What's the point anymore? Wow, I'm forming

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<v Speaker 4>a new political party. I've given up. Wow, coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of angry hot on a Monday exactly well offended, righteously angry.

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<v Speaker 4>Not like I lost my temper because I'm drunk angry.

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<v Speaker 4>No righteous indignation. It's a stupidity, that hypocrisy, the lack

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<v Speaker 4>of principle. I got three names a new party, So

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<v Speaker 4>not I lost my temper because I'm drunk angry, Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's the only other golf shot. Now I'm helicoptering my

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<v Speaker 4>club angry. No, this is righteous, biblical anger. How about

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<v Speaker 4>how about the door dash was so slow? By the

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<v Speaker 4>time the yogurt got to me, it was all melted

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<v Speaker 4>angry which I had. Yet that's legit to me. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean that pays for yogurt, you know, I expects it

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<v Speaker 4>to be nice and chili. All right, So I got

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<v Speaker 4>three possible names for a new political party.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you'll join me on this question.

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<v Speaker 4>Angrytarians referencing my being pissed off enough is Enoughocrats?

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<v Speaker 2>Or finally, f y'all, that's pretty good too.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd wear that T shirt and whatever the flag looks like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm flying it in the back of my truck.

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<v Speaker 2>F yolikins.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought the general manager would be Joe Biden's prostate.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, an old man has cancer. It's no humor there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just terrible. Doesn't have to be humorous. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>a big news story I adopted for Humer. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 4>you something though, interesting wrinkle on this that just happened,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want to get to it before you hear

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere else. Do tell that came up on Morning Joe

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<v Speaker 4>with Joe Scarborough and he didn't state it outright, but

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<v Speaker 4>he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly hinting at it strongly.

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<v Speaker 4>So it turns out according to the doctor they had, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a whole bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I can say about this as a guy who had cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>The reporting on everything that happens in the mainstream news

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<v Speaker 4>is so horrible, but as usual that there there are

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<v Speaker 4>a number of things I keep hearing over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>They keep saying an aggressive cancer as if that absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>means something, and it doesn't at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Having had concert and talk to doctors before, uh, back

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Day, many many many years ago, in general, aggressive was

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<v Speaker 4>bad and not aggressive was good, but not anymore. My

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<v Speaker 4>cancer was worse because it was not aggressive, because I

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<v Speaker 4>found fascinating at the time. Yeah, because it wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 4>the bait, as my doctor said, you're trying to poison

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<v Speaker 4>the cancer with the chemotherapy, and it wouldn't take the bait,

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<v Speaker 4>like trying to catch a rat with you know, brat poison.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't take the bait because it was so slow

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<v Speaker 4>moving and aggressive cancer. He told me, well, grasp on

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<v Speaker 4>to the we're gonna get you, and grasp on to

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<v Speaker 4>the poison and die faster. So often that is better,

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<v Speaker 4>so that that using that word every single time in

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<v Speaker 4>every story is meaningless.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go, let's start there. I'm exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>But the interesting thing is that I learned from from

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<v Speaker 4>Scarborough's show today, and again this is what they kept

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<v Speaker 4>hitting at.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had it for probably.

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<v Speaker 4>A decade at least through his presidency, absolutely minimum several years,

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<v Speaker 4>but probably a decade.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's impossible they either.

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<v Speaker 4>Well almost certainly, they just didn't test for it, or

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<v Speaker 4>or or just didn't do anything and or just kept

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<v Speaker 4>it quiet, because, as we've said many times, the president

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<v Speaker 4>decides what to reveal from that presidential exam, what not

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<v Speaker 4>to reveal it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the ultimate.

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<v Speaker 4>This tells us nothing possible that they did that, although

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<v Speaker 4>you had had to kept it, keep it quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year for many, many, many years.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because the president, you know, gets a yearly

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<v Speaker 4>physical and everything like that, And did he get tested

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<v Speaker 4>for it every year and keep it quiet throughout his

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<v Speaker 4>entire presidency, probably years before his presidency so that he

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<v Speaker 4>could maybe run again or whatever, or or this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I think Scarborough was him. It's just his overall

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<v Speaker 4>medical health, including his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>They just didn't test for things.

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<v Speaker 4>They just didn't ask any questions about anything because it

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<v Speaker 4>was all gonna be bad news and they didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to have to discuss anything, so better just to not know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is by far the most likely theory,

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<v Speaker 4>and I hate to steal the thunder of our own featurette,

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<v Speaker 4>but we got this note from Jacob that I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to include in mailbag. Later on in the hour,

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<v Speaker 4>he says, Hey, guys, do you remember that speech where

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<v Speaker 4>President Biden randomly said I just found I have out

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<v Speaker 4>I have cancer or something like that. Then he moved

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<v Speaker 4>on and nobody commented on it in the White House

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<v Speaker 4>right town?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right, although he accidentally let it slip. Although

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way he just found out he had cancer

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<v Speaker 4>because he's had it for a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>But Christmas they just gave him a PSA test for

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<v Speaker 4>the first time ever. Possibly although we're going to play

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<v Speaker 4>some of the her tapes later. He didn't know when

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<v Speaker 4>he was president or vice president or when his sun

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<v Speaker 4>died by years, So him saying I just found out

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<v Speaker 4>I got cancer, Who knows what that means. That could

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<v Speaker 4>have been him remembering from ten years ago. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about his brain. The fact that you know him

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<v Speaker 4>having prostate cancer and hiding it or whatever. I find

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of a non.

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<v Speaker 2>Story actually, But the fact that it fits in with.

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<v Speaker 4>Just the overall ignoring everything about his body and brain.

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<v Speaker 4>I think got pretty interesting, oh on how widespread the

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge was. And I've read a great piece we'll share

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<v Speaker 4>it with you later about why this all matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not just looking in the rear view mirror

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<v Speaker 4>and kicking Democrats for the fun of it. This is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the great cover ups in American history.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Alper keeps making it about the media, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think is a good thing. It's the biggest failure of

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<v Speaker 4>the media ever. Period. I don't know what second place

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<v Speaker 4>would be biggest failure of the media period. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it's mostly interesting from me hiding his

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<v Speaker 4>brain thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And over the weekend, Maureen Dowd in the New York Times, who's.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy they always quoted in the Washington Post, senior man,

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<v Speaker 4>We had him on the show when we were out

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<v Speaker 4>there in U Chicago. Dad Balls, like some of the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest heavyweight hitters wrote some major pieces over this weekend

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<v Speaker 4>about how awful it is that this was hidden for

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<v Speaker 4>all this time, kind of like they're discovering it, which

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<v Speaker 4>is weird but shocking. I mean, it really comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the top of everybody's consciousness as a what the hell

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<v Speaker 4>sort of story right, Well, more on that later. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just it's absolutely amazing. But wow, so I wonder, see

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<v Speaker 4>he got crazy Jill involved. You got to go to

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<v Speaker 4>crazy Jill and the artist Hunter who's also crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They might have just been saying, no, Dad, honey, no tests.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just do no tests, no tests about anything, and

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<v Speaker 4>then then we don't have to lie, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>can just go out there and say everything fine. It

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<v Speaker 4>is gratifying and somewhat shocking to look back and see

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<v Speaker 4>how right we were about all of this, not that

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<v Speaker 4>we had any unique knowledge. Look at the polls at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. And I say this not to pat ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>on the back, but virtually everything we said about Jill

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<v Speaker 4>is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Evil doer in this. You can tell doctor Jill not

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<v Speaker 2>a real doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh she's a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 2>She's say for real crazy person. Yes, she is absolutely unhinged.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody in the cabinet who knew and was silence

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<v Speaker 4>or denied it vociferously. Chuck Schumer, who's a congenital liar.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why anybody ever listens to him on

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<v Speaker 4>any topic. He couldn't tell the truth unless he accidentally

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<v Speaker 4>did it. You know, mayor Pete. You know, all of

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<v Speaker 4>these people who continue to be significant to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>persons in American politics.

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<v Speaker 2>We cannot just let them get away with it. They

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<v Speaker 2>should never be in office again. They should never be

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<v Speaker 2>entrusted with power again. God, who's the guy I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember his name, Democrat.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the chair of the Armed Services Committee, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a big committee. Never talked to Joe Biden once, right,

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<v Speaker 4>which is just incredible. Well because he in previous administrations

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<v Speaker 4>that regularly talked to the president as the head of

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<v Speaker 4>the important Defense Committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course you would. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, there's a lot on that and Joe Biden's prostect.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I hope they get him a treatment and

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<v Speaker 2>he's fine and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's come on, he's on D S D anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>true that.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, more Jack Morgoe.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts and our hotlinks, the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You say a lot that's in some of your song lyrics.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to tell us what it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is to.

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<v Speaker 6>U Mia, it means either live your culture or you

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<v Speaker 6>kill your culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no in between. So I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>up every day and I'm going to live my culture today?

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<v Speaker 4>What was that nonsense? He was muttering in the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>That was French, Jack, it's a language. That was Jordan Thibodeau,

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<v Speaker 4>who was featured on sixty Minutes as part of a

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting segment about essentially Cajun and similar music in

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<v Speaker 4>that culture. I thought that was a really interesting statement,

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<v Speaker 4>you either live your culture or kill your culture, especially

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<v Speaker 4>because I was corresponding with a friend of mine about

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<v Speaker 4>my upcoming trip to London with my bride and he

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<v Speaker 4>sent along some commentary about.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been brushing up in your English to get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for it?

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<v Speaker 4>Hilarious, And it was a commentary on how Britain and Europe,

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<v Speaker 4>having permitted rampant immigration that nobody voted for but the

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<v Speaker 4>elite wanted, had caused enormous dislocating cultural problems. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>something we've talked about several times. But and pointing out

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<v Speaker 4>that like the mayors of most of the big cities

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<v Speaker 4>in Britain are all Muslims, inexplicably because they're still a

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<v Speaker 4>fairly small minority, but there are hundreds of Sharia councils,

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<v Speaker 4>in Sharia courts and the rest of it in Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>And I found that really intriguing.

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<v Speaker 4>Which way to Buckingham Palace right over there?

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<v Speaker 2>Which way over there? Over there? Why are you talking

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<v Speaker 2>like that?

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<v Speaker 4>So I was for whatever reason that came within twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four hours of hearing mister Thibadeau talking about you live

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<v Speaker 4>your culture or you kill your culture. I always remember

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<v Speaker 4>when I read the giant biography of Pope John Paul

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<v Speaker 4>the Second, he was constantly saying languages culture, talking about

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<v Speaker 4>that it is they travel together, they just do.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the language dies out, that culture has died out.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why, that's why Russia goes in and forces people

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<v Speaker 4>to speak Russian various languages in various areas because use China.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you dare speak one of your ethnic languages in China,

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<v Speaker 4>you will be hauled into re education. That's why it's

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<v Speaker 4>so hilarious that we're so willing in the United States

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<v Speaker 4>to like turn over giant swaths of the country to

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<v Speaker 4>another language. We just put up signs in that language,

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<v Speaker 4>start putting things in that language and say that's fine,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't care, we don't need to hang on to

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<v Speaker 4>our language. Well exactly, you called it funny, and I

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<v Speaker 4>get you're being kind of ironic, but I was just

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<v Speaker 4>going to say it is one of the more horrifying

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<v Speaker 4>and obscene things I've observed in my life that we

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<v Speaker 4>of the West Europe, in the United States and Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>primarily the English speaking world and Europe have been convinced

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<v Speaker 4>that we have the one culture that not only is

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<v Speaker 4>not beautiful and worth preserving or awesome or successful or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's evil and we deserve to have it stamped out.

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<v Speaker 4>And anybody who doesn't participate in that stamping out enthusiastically

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<v Speaker 4>is an awful person and should be shamed or forced

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<v Speaker 4>out of their job or what have you. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you just look at England, never mind the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>look at England. They've practically brought us democracy. It's existed

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<v Speaker 4>in different forms in different places, but my god, the

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<v Speaker 4>Magna Carta and the emergence of the Parliament as a

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<v Speaker 4>counter to the king and working with the monarch and

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<v Speaker 4>just over hundreds of years hammering out the details of

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<v Speaker 4>how does a people self govern hm and then that

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<v Speaker 4>giving birth to the United States. I mean, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about a culture worth being proud of and preserving.

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<v Speaker 2>About British culture, and it's off shoots.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have more you want to say on that

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<v Speaker 4>topic before I get to my next This all came

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<v Speaker 4>together like in the last three minutes in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So why would those who were browbeating us to flush

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<v Speaker 4>our own culture down the toilet, hate our own history,

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<v Speaker 4>hate our own people?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they do that?

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of you are probably a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit ahead of me at this point. But I came

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<v Speaker 4>across this this morning. It's a piece in the National

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<v Speaker 4>Review and let's see. Oh, it's by the notorious MBD

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Brendan Doherty, who came across some audio of Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 4>of all people, doing an interview at one of those

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<v Speaker 4>never ending Look how smart and cool and rich we

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<v Speaker 4>are speech athons.

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<v Speaker 2>God who goes to those things? Well, it's a certain

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<v Speaker 2>class of people, but I've never heard of most of

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<v Speaker 2>these things.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the ninety two and Why, part of the

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<v Speaker 4>Newmark Civic Life series. Oh yeah, the ninety two Street

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<v Speaker 4>Why is a huge deal in New York. If you're important,

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<v Speaker 4>they have those all the time with Yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 4>those on YouTube videos regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been so. Hillary was jabbering about.

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<v Speaker 4>She launched into the screen and the audio, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>better to shorten it because, you know, ramble a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>She launched into this mocking the idea of the Trump

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<v Speaker 4>administration or anybody else trying to get Americans to have

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<v Speaker 4>more babies, and she's right in that it's ultimately going

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<v Speaker 4>to fail.

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<v Speaker 2>But she launches into a screed in which she says.

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<v Speaker 4>The quiet part out loud that the progressive, the affluent

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<v Speaker 4>progressive lifestyle, however you want to describe it, lifestyle liberalism,

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<v Speaker 4>certain forms of feminism. It's the privilege of affluent Americans

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<v Speaker 4>and is supported by mass immigration, legal and illegal. Progressivism

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<v Speaker 4>is not economically or socially sustainable, except if we import

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<v Speaker 4>brown people and foreign people. She said, it's crazy trying

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<v Speaker 4>to make America great again by returning to lifestyles and

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<v Speaker 4>the economic arrangements of not just the fifth I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>let's keep going back as far as we can. The

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear family returned to being a Christian nation, a return

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<v Speaker 4>to producing a lot of children.

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<v Speaker 2>These are quotes, even though she says they alleged.

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<v Speaker 4>Particularly offended her throwing out the nuclear family as something

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<v Speaker 4>to give up on easily. Wow. Then she takes a

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<v Speaker 4>shot of Republicans say that they have no interest in

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<v Speaker 4>paid family leave or funding quality childcare, their cutting head start.

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<v Speaker 4>But she said, it's sort of odd because the people

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<v Speaker 4>who produce the most children in our country are immigrants,

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<v Speaker 4>and they want to deport them.

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<v Speaker 2>None of this adds up. This is all a quote.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, one of the reasons why our economy did

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<v Speaker 4>so much better than comparable advanced economies across the world

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<v Speaker 4>is because we had lots of immigrants, legally and undocumented,

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<v Speaker 4>who had a larger than normal by American standards family. So,

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<v Speaker 4>quoting Doherty, taken together, Clinton says that immigrants make the

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<v Speaker 4>American lifestyle of today add up in part because of

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<v Speaker 4>their higher birth rates. And she's right, although he later

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<v Speaker 4>points out within two generations, certainly three, immigrant birth rates

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<v Speaker 4>plunge down to Native American birth rate. Also to point

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<v Speaker 4>out the reality, any neighborhood you ever lived in, Hillary

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<v Speaker 4>become primarily a different language speaking in the restaurant you

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<v Speaker 4>used to go to, become a food and language that

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know in your school. The teachers she couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>learn in schools because there are so many languages. When

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<v Speaker 4>you go to the emergency room, a lot, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Spanish speaking or whatever. That really slows things down

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<v Speaker 4>that it doesn't happen to you. It's funny, it happens

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>See Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah or Jack your show

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts and our hot links the arm Strong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 6>They literally are trying to take healthcare away from millions

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<v Speaker 6>of Americans at this very moment in the dead of night.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Oh my god. It's a party of monsters.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they're having a republic wells, they're monsters. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why they're having the one am vote tonight on the

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<v Speaker 4>big beautiful bill to try to slide through in the

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<v Speaker 4>darken night, the cutting back on Medicaid, and so the

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans who are actual vampires can come out to vote too,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, the sun is down. So Craig Gottwalls

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<v Speaker 4>originally Craig the Obamacare lawyer, because when Obamacare was in

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<v Speaker 4>the works and passed, Craig would talk to us about it,

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<v Speaker 4>longtime friend of the show, and everything he said was true,

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<v Speaker 4>and virtually everything he predicted happened, in contrast to most

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<v Speaker 4>of the coverage of it, which was garbage. Well, Craig

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<v Speaker 4>is now Craig the healthcare guru, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk a little bit about Medicaid, among other things. Craig Gottwals,

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<v Speaker 4>how are you, Craig, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, gentlemen? Terrific? Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you make of Hakeem Jeffrey's quote there

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<v Speaker 4>and what is the reality of medicaid?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it underscores just how we can give anything to

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<v Speaker 5>the government. This is this is why we can't have

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<v Speaker 5>nice things. Right. So, in nineteen sixty five, the federal

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<v Speaker 5>government passed Medicaran Medicaid, and specifically with respect to Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 5>the whole idea was, man, we need a safety net

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<v Speaker 5>for like single moms with disabled children who are falling

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<v Speaker 5>through the cracks. We need we need this, this mechanism

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<v Speaker 5>to just capture the most disadvantaged among us, to help

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<v Speaker 5>them out and to give them to give them a lift. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>So we did. And back when this was passed in

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen sixty five, it was designed to cover two percent

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<v Speaker 5>of Americans two percent. Today it covers one in three

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<v Speaker 5>Americans and forty one percent of all babies burst in our.

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<v Speaker 2>Country, whoa forty one percent of babies born.

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<v Speaker 4>So originally forty one line, the disabled, the utterly unable

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<v Speaker 4>to help themselves, and now it is approaching half of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that because we we have so many more single

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<v Speaker 4>moms with blowing babies?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what does that happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, you get you know better than I Jack.

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<v Speaker 5>This is entitlement creep government creep at its finest.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you.

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<v Speaker 5>When this really took off and became insane was with

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<v Speaker 5>Obamacare in the early you know, twenty teens. When Obamacare

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<v Speaker 5>came into play, Obamacare was bribing the states because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the way this thing works, it's an agreement between the

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<v Speaker 5>state and the federal government and they're shared financing, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So the federal government couldn't just say to the states,

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<v Speaker 5>you shall expand medicaid. But what the federal government did

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<v Speaker 5>is said, hey, look if you expand medicaid to basically

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<v Speaker 5>able bodied, working age people now because we'd already you know,

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<v Speaker 5>had medicaid for all the other categories you just mentioned, Joe,

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<v Speaker 5>the government said, look, if you do that, will we

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<v Speaker 5>the federal government, will pay one hundred percent of it

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<v Speaker 5>for some time, and then we'll pay ninety percent of it.

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<v Speaker 5>So all but tens dates went ahead. And said, heck, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll take that deal. And so now with that, with

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<v Speaker 5>that Medicaid expansion expansion that occurred with Obamacare, it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>ninety percent paid for by federal tax payers, and it

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<v Speaker 5>covers anywhere from eight million to fourteen million able bodied

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<v Speaker 5>working adults or I should say able bodied adults, some

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<v Speaker 5>of which are working, some of which aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>And in a bizarre twist, correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>the federal government compensates the states at a much higher

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<v Speaker 4>percentage for able bodied dudes smoking pot on their parents

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<v Speaker 4>based on couch than they do for actual like disabled

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<v Speaker 4>people in blind babies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, that's exactly right. So that was the that

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<v Speaker 5>was the Obamacare bribe because because Medicaid already covered all

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<v Speaker 5>those people we were trying to protect, you know, when

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<v Speaker 5>we started this thing in the sixties. So it covered

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<v Speaker 5>all those people that had disabilities, single moms, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 5>the blind, that disabled, but it didn't cover just underemployed

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<v Speaker 5>or unemployed abled bodied adults. And so in order to

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<v Speaker 5>get the states to agree to do that, the federal

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<v Speaker 5>government had to say, look, we know that we're only

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<v Speaker 5>paying you an average of fifty to sixty five cents

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<v Speaker 5>on the dollar for your existing Medicaid, and we know

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<v Speaker 5>that's not enough to get you the states to agree

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<v Speaker 5>to go ahead and cover the adults. So we'll pay

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<v Speaker 5>ninety to one hundred percent, starting at one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 5>dropping down to ninety percent. So, yes, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>If you are a twenty eight year old dude smoking

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<v Speaker 5>pot in your mom and dad's basement right now, medicaid's

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<v Speaker 5>paying ninety percent. The federal government's paying ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 5>your Medicaid where it's only paying an average of sixty

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<v Speaker 5>cents on the dollar in a state like California for

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<v Speaker 5>a disabled mother with the child.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm thinking somebody I know specifically who is like

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<v Speaker 4>a regular person with the job and is doing it

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<v Speaker 4>the normal way, and there are incredible medical bills they

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<v Speaker 4>got right now because they've had some health problems. That's

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<v Speaker 4>very galling that they have these high medical bills with

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<v Speaker 4>insurance and everything, as opposed to if you got on

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of government plan, it'd all be covered. And Craig,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to leave it up to your judgment how

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<v Speaker 4>much you want to get into this, But there are

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<v Speaker 4>all sorts of other perverse incentives that this law has

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<v Speaker 4>caused states, you know, taxing hospitals to raise the amount spent,

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<v Speaker 4>but then they get it back from the federal government,

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<v Speaker 4>then they give it back to the hospitals.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's byzantine.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's let me just give you a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>nuggets on the cost of it, just just because what's

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<v Speaker 5>happened is employers pay two to three times the cost

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<v Speaker 5>of a hospital visit, as Medicare and Medicaid do. So

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<v Speaker 5>when you are on Medicare and Medicaid, you go to

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<v Speaker 5>the hospital, you pay X. If you're on an employer

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<v Speaker 5>sponsored plan, you pay two's the three times X.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, the state bills I was just talking about, thus

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<v Speaker 2>the bills.

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<v Speaker 5>But even with that reality, gentlemen, if you're on Medicare,

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<v Speaker 5>that cost per taxpayer is about eleven thousand per year,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're on Medicaid, it's ninety four hundred per year,

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<v Speaker 5>and for employer sponsored people it's eighty seven hundred per year.

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<v Speaker 5>So even with that, granted, employer sponsored covers generally younger,

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<v Speaker 5>generally healthier, we get that, but even with this tremendous

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 5>cost shift to the hospitals, it just underscores how inefficient

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 5>these government programs are. When they passed Medicare. Now this

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<v Speaker 5>is Medicare, not Medicaid. But they did all the financials

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<v Speaker 5>together when they passed it in nineteen sixty seven, actually

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<v Speaker 5>two years in, when they did an analysis on it,

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<v Speaker 5>they said, hey, we think this is going to cost

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<v Speaker 5>twelve billion by nineteen ninety, when in fact it cost

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred billion. They were off a factor of eight.

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<v Speaker 2>With medicare the bullet train of medicine.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the bullet train of medicine. And now that

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<v Speaker 5>there are some people making noises that, gee, we ought

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<v Speaker 5>to trim back the edges a little bit and get

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 5>these able bodied adults off of it, you of course

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<v Speaker 5>get the grand standing of politicians, even those on the right,

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<v Speaker 5>screaming that it's murder in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>So Medicare is the one we all get when we

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<v Speaker 2>ty cynical it will.

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<v Speaker 4>Medicare is the one we all get when we turn

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<v Speaker 4>sixty five, But Medicaid is the one at the downtrodden

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<v Speaker 4>earth or folks allegedly. Yeah, yeah, hey, Craig, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to do the numbers you did for Medicaid too. So

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen eighty seven, Congress projected that Medicaid would make

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 4>special relief payments to hospitals of less than a billion

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 4>dollars by nineteen ninety two under a billion dollars. The

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 4>actual cost was seventeen billion, So they're seventeen times as high.

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if that doesn't tell you what you need

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 4>to know about government entitlement programs and what they do inevitably, well,

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 4>you're too stupid to understand it, don't I pity you.

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<v Speaker 5>And that one was in a five year span. Joe,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 5>that was their eighty seven projection for ninety two. Oh

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<v Speaker 5>my god, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that wasn't well. And one of the problems.

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 4>One of the problems is, you know, all government programs grow,

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and you know the high cost of good intentions and

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 4>all that sort of stuff. But in this case, you've

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 4>got the added part that there's a bunch of people

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 4>that want the government to run all of healthcare. So

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 4>they loved they're push the expansion. It's not just like

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 4>normal bureaucratic creep. They're pushing it. The more people cover,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 4>the more you can make the argument of well or

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 4>already government healthcare anyway, Let's just flip the switch and

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 4>go full on single payer.

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<v Speaker 5>You're absolutely right, and the single payer I'm just here

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 5>to tell you the single payer path is a good

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 5>thirty to fifty percent more expensive. Now those costs are

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 5>hidden because of the way the money slashes around. But

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 5>you've only got one payer of health care in America

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 5>that actually cares what it costs, and that's employers.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 5>The insurance companies don't care because the way Obamacare is written,

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 5>they need more claims to make more money. The government

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 5>doesn't care because the more healthcare costs, the more budget

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 5>they get to address the issue. The only policyholder, the

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 5>only tax the only moneyed interest in this that actually cares,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 5>is an employer, and it's dramatically shrinking. Those of us

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 5>that get healthcare at work is shrinking every year.

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how we ever get this fixed, Because

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 4>you've probably been listening to know. I got whooping cough.

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 4>So I've been to the doctor, like yeah, four or

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 4>five times, eight different medications, all these different bills.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 2>Most of them tiny. I don't have the slightest idea

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>what anything cost or I'll get a bill.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 4>I know, I'll get a bill in a month for

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and eighty bucks or five hundred eighty bucks,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and then I'll just pay it. And

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 4>nobody has any idea. And the randomness of those of

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 4>us who have employee, you know, insurance, we don't know

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 4>if we're getting ripped off or good price or whatever.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's complicated, really discouraging, Go ahead, Craig.

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's it's not health jack by the you

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 5>know a lot of people think that, hey, I have

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 5>Purple Cross as my insurance, and so whether I go

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 5>to Stanford or El Camino or good Sam for this

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 5>particular shoulder surgery should be about the same price because

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 5>I have a Purple Cross PPO contract. Right, It's not

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 5>you can pay ten thousand for that shoulder surgery or

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 5>fifty thousand for that shoulder surgery with the same exact

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 5>insurance card. It's utterly insane what's happening in the commercial

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 5>market because government has crept into this unholy alliance with

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 5>the commercial payers, and so you have this, you have

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 5>a situation where it's crony capitalism at its absolute worst.

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 5>You know we're talking about and we can tease for

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 5>a future visit, but there are ways to get around this,

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 5>but relying on the government or this large commercial sector

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 5>is going to kill us. And when I say the

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 5>commercial sector, I mean the fully insured carriers. Employer sponsored plans,

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 5>self funded employer sponsored plans are the way to go.

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 5>It's the only way to beat this and beat it back.

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're talking to Craig Gottwal's Craig, the healthcare guru. Craig.

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 4>I feel like at this point in the interview we

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 4>ought to give people the local suicide hotline number.

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, because it's so discouraging.

0:28:52.760 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 4>So we've you know, described this incredible, mountainous, wasteful, enormously

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 4>expensive government program out of control. And if you, as

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 4>say a Republican a Chip Roy, for instance, say hey,

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 4>can we have thirty five year old guy smoking pawn

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 4>on his parents' couch, please pay a thirty five dollars

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 4>copay when he goes to the doctor, you have Hakeem

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey screaming you're literally taking healthcare away from millions of Americans. Yeah,

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 4>that's that's one problem, though, the other problem is you

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 4>that's a Democrat. He got Josh Howey, a Republican writing

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 4>an opera, and Molly has lost his soul I hope

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 4>he gets hit by a car ab horror violence. Josh

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 4>Holley writes, I think in the New York Times last week.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 4>You know Republicans, hey do not cut any of this.

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a bad political move. So where does that leave you?

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>It you.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 5>At this point, gentlemen, I put my head down. I

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 5>don't even listen to the big the big picture anymore,

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 5>and I just try and help one employer at a time.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 5>And I get individuals that contact me and they asked

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 5>me what do I do?

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And I say, buy is a little little sick.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 5>The highest deductible, go ahead.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't get sick is your recommendation.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 5>Don't get sick, but find a doctor, find a doctor

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 5>who's left the system, and engage in something called direct

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 5>primary care, where you give them anywhere from seventy five

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 5>to two hundred dollars a month, you treat, you work

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 5>with them, and then god forbid, you have something giant happen.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 5>You have the highest deductible you can stomach to go.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Deal with that issue.

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 5>But you've got to cut insurance and government payments out

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 5>as much as you can and work directly with doctors.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 5>And the good news is that system is growing gentlemen,

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 5>I call the doctors every week that are leaving the

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 5>system and going direct pay with individuals and not the

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 5>three hundred and fifty dollars concierge model, but like doing

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 5>this for one hundred dollars a month.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Literally.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, I love the idea of starting at that point

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 4>in our next conversation with you, Craig, and talking about that,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 4>because one of the things I was going to bring

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 4>up if we have time, and we don't unfortunately, but

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 4>some of the unholy vertical integration of the giant healthcare

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 4>companies where they own the doctor, they own the hospital,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 4>they own the pharmacy, they own the pharmacy benefit manager,

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 4>which is an unholy, murky cesspool of God knows where

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 4>the money goes. And so yeah, the idea of checking

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 4>out of that system, I love it. Let's let's let's

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 4>talk off the air. Will schedule you to come back

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 4>because I think it'd be great for the good folks.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Sounds great, gentlemen, have a wonderful day. Yeah, thanks, Craig.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate the time, Craig. You have to come on all

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the time and bear bad news.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's like, yeah, I just you know, as

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 4>a realist, you've unlike the Biden family, the one thing

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>you must do is understand reality or or your you'relice.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 4>I've been saying too Craig, and he usually agrees for years.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 4>I think the realist view is we're going to end

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 4>up single payer healthcare. Uh, it's just when, When does it?

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I suppose so.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 4>But in every single health single payer healthcare system, people

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>who can afford it go outside, right right, got to

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 4>learn those ropes. Yeah, hang it, don't folks, it'll be okay.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Don't get sick. Just don't get sick or break anything.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 4>That's the answer.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Stay here.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It's Jack, Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong and Getty Show,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 4>So they've been a couple of great government works, things

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 4>that got out of control and cost gazillions of dollars

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 4>and never got finished.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>In my lifetime.

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 4>I remember Boston's a big dig hearing about that my

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 4>whole life. Decades and decades and decades of wasting tons

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 4>of money, Alaska's famous Bridge to Nowhere. But they're all

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 4>paling in comparison to California's high speed rail project, which

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 4>goes back to two thousand and eight. And if it's

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 4>not already at the end of the day, will be

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 4>the biggest government sinkhole of bureaucracy and waste as an

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 4>example of how democracy keys can fail in our nation's history.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And it's probably already been Richmond too. I must part

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>of the reason it's getting a bunch of a national attention.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Now. New York Times did a story last Sunday, the

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 4>Associated presses on it, and the Dispatch did a story yesterday.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Is the CHSR, that's the California High Speed Rail Authority.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 4>They put out new numbers just recently, and their own

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 4>new numbers have now increased the total cost to one

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty five billion dollars. When taxpayers agreed to this,

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 4>it was thirty three billion. It's now one hundred and

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 4>thirty five billion. It's more than one hundred billion dollars

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 4>more than originally proposed it was. We were supposed to

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 4>be writing it five years ago. It's supposed to be

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 4>done in twenty twenty. I have not written in a

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:46.719
<v Speaker 4>view they're now saying it comes anywhere near the original promise.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 4>It will be north of two hundred billion dollars, mark

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>my words. And they said in their most recent statement,

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 4>it may take two more decades to complete most of

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 4>the San Francisco Los Angeles segment, two more decades to

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 4>complete most, So they're not even saying in two decades

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 4>they can complete.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:07.479
<v Speaker 2>It, right.

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if you know about travel, but

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 4>you really need the whole thing. Like if I'm going

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 4>to New York this summer, I need to get all

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 4>the way there. Most of the way doesn't do any good.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 4>It's either get you to Indianapolis. It's really an all

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 4>or nothing proposition whenever you travel somewhere, Am I going

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 4>there or not? But I thought this was really interesting

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 4>and I can't believe this hasn't gotten more attention.

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 2>This is from the chsra's own plan.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 4>It is now going to connect to towns on the

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 4>outskirts of both major metros. It's not gonna take you

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 4>from San Francisco to Los Angeles. It's gonna take you

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 4>from Gilroy, which if you live in the area, you

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 4>know very close to San Francisco, and.

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the outskirts of the outskirts of the Outo.

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 4>It's seventy miles southeast of San Francisco to Chail. It

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 4>will take you just under two hours to drive from

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 4>Gilroy to San Francisco as we speak, to Palmdale, which

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 4>is thirty seven miles northeast of the edge of Los Angeles,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 4>and in Los Angeles traffic, it would take you several

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 4>hours to make that drive. So instead of the city centers,

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 4>it's going to take you from Gilroy to Palmdale. That

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 4>will save construction time and money, but it will need

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 4>mean the writers will need another hour or more to

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 4>get into the cities. That is an incredibly generous statement.

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 4>I would say a minimum of three to four hours

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 4>on a good day, all told an hour and a

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 4>quarter from Palmdale to LA right now, all told. Economist

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Scott Summer estimates that this new setup would require at

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 4>least a seven hour series of trains or cars for

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 4>someone to get from downtown San Francisco to downtown Los Angeles.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Instead of the original promised three hour one train trip

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>and seven hours on the best, everything broke your way,

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 4>it would take seven hours.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>It is the greatest failure of democracy I've ever witnessed.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty