Speaker 1: Yo, it's cat Away checking in, checking me out on
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Speaker 2: It's lit, it's a movie.
Speaker 3: Let's get it, yo, boutleg cab podcast. Man, we got
Speaker 3: a special guest in here. Cowboys in the building.
Speaker 2: What's up, man, what's happening? What's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm chilling, brother. It's good to see you. It's been
Speaker 3: a minute since. I been like five years since I
Speaker 3: saw you. What have you been up to?
Speaker 2: Working hard, working hard? Thank you? Smart, trying to maneuver,
Speaker 2: get over obstacles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I saw you did lad like a
Speaker 3: year ago, and I saw I mean because listen, you
Speaker 3: have had one of the bigger records in the last
Speaker 3: five years. Envy me was a moment? Was it triple platinum?
Speaker 2: It's five times now, five times platinum?
Speaker 3: My goodness, that's fire. That's gotta be a dope plaque. Like,
Speaker 3: did you get the five times platinum plac yet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta buy that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm on it. I'm gonna get I'll stopped
Speaker 1: at three.
Speaker 2: Yeah like that.
Speaker 3: Every time you get a new certification, I need to
Speaker 3: get a new plaque. It's like Jesus right, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I know you kind of went through it
Speaker 3: with with with the label at the time because you
Speaker 3: were with RCA M. Now you're fully independent, So congrats
Speaker 3: to that. I always congratulate artists when they're independent because
Speaker 3: I think it's the way to go.
Speaker 2: Finally free type. Shit.
Speaker 3: What was the uphill battle for you with you know,
Speaker 3: because from a fans perspective, a lot of people like,
Speaker 3: we're having a cowboy, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: what's been going on and what was kind of some
Speaker 3: of the uh, you know, things you had to go
Speaker 3: through with getting out of that deal and and trying
Speaker 3: to move on and get this music out that you're
Speaker 3: sitting on.
Speaker 2: Well, I would say one of the bigger problems was like.
Speaker 1: The back end business, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: getting like different personalities to see out of eye things
Speaker 1: like that to actually get the ball rolling. That was
Speaker 1: very difficult in my situation, you know what I'm saying, in.
Speaker 3: Terms of just like agreeing on what to put out,
Speaker 3: agreeing on when to put it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So from a fan's perspective, it looks like cal
Speaker 1: ain't working or he ain't he don't care about us type,
Speaker 1: And then I kind of disappeared to them.
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I was, like, what happened to cowboy?
Speaker 3: My boy hit me? And I was like, oh, because
Speaker 3: I remember you did Divide interview that went viral for
Speaker 3: other reasons.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of the bs behind closed doors
Speaker 1: just slowed down, a consistency and the flow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people don't understand, like when you're on a
Speaker 3: major label, it is very much a mutual relationship. So
Speaker 3: in their eyes, per your contract, if you turn a
Speaker 3: body of work in and we released it, I owe
Speaker 3: you money. Here's an advance for that album. Right, So
Speaker 3: in their eyes, their perspective is, well, we got to
Speaker 3: feel good about whatever this is. We got to agree
Speaker 3: on if we feel strong about all these records, and
Speaker 3: then that's when you know, or you know, you got
Speaker 3: to catch a moment and force their hand almost right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So there is always that
Speaker 3: gridlock on the major label side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what it was. Yeah, for sure, And
Speaker 2: and I figured it out. I got up out of there.
Speaker 2: Now we work.
Speaker 3: Was it easy to get your obviously it wasn't easy
Speaker 3: to get your release, But tell me about that process
Speaker 3: of getting released off of.
Speaker 2: It took a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, took a little money, took a strong support system.
Speaker 3: Did you have to buy yourself out?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, No, okay, but I had to just let
Speaker 1: a lot of things go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get what.
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of, like some of your music
Speaker 3: you recorded on their dime. Yeah, so it's like you
Speaker 3: record music on their dime, you might not ever hear
Speaker 3: that music. But do they still have the right Jesus sorry,
Speaker 3: do they still have the right to release that music?
Speaker 3: Or is it just like, hey, this is us, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, you go do your thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really it's really like that, I'm just doing
Speaker 1: my own thing. They ain't really worried about the other music,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure they would cause a hass if I
Speaker 1: try to like.
Speaker 3: Drop stuff on you. Yeah, no, that makes sense. I've
Speaker 3: had friends of mine who's like been on major labels
Speaker 3: and then they'll get with like a really big producer,
Speaker 3: like let's just use an example, Timbaland or somebody right right,
Speaker 3: and then they get off of the label, but they
Speaker 3: still got all these unreleased songs with like these giant producers,
Speaker 3: and they're like, ah, do I risk just throwing this
Speaker 3: shit out there to see what happens, you know. I
Speaker 3: mean it can work both ways. It could work out,
Speaker 3: or it could be like, yeah, you get a cease
Speaker 3: and assist.
Speaker 1: Right now working on like all fresh music. You know
Speaker 1: the energy that I'm in right now, how I feel
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: So no, the new songs Dope. I watched the video
Speaker 3: It's dope, Dope record Snap.
Speaker 1: For sure, that was one of the ones where I
Speaker 1: was just feeling myself, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: that's the start of it, unchanged, just explaining like what
Speaker 1: I really went through for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well for people who don't know because I saw it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you lost a lot of your personal friends.
Speaker 3: I think you lost twelve friends in a year now
Speaker 3: eight and two eight year eight friends in two years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's gotta be like.
Speaker 1: Three of them was family members, a older cousin, a
Speaker 1: younger cousin, and a cousin around my age.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because we hear that same story coming from
Speaker 3: so many people from your city, right and it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, ge Herbalt has a song called PTSD and
Speaker 3: he talks a lot about like the mental strength you
Speaker 3: have to have to be from where he's from, where
Speaker 3: you're from, you know what I'm saying. And to deal
Speaker 3: with so much loss and so much hurt, Like do
Speaker 3: you ever feel like you had an opportunity to really mourn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, behind closed doors when you were by yourself, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But you grow I mean numb to it. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You get used to it. I wouldn't say numb to
Speaker 1: it because you still care, but.
Speaker 3: No, but it's it's used to it. Yeah, you can get.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's something you can get used to if
Speaker 3: you get There's women out here who are getting cheated
Speaker 3: on by the same guy for a decade who I know,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, you're just used to it at
Speaker 3: this point, like you don't even care anymore, Like you like,
Speaker 3: shit happens to you and unfortunately, no matter how traumatic
Speaker 3: it is, like you're kind of conditioned to deal with it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I always say it could be worse.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Everything could always be worse. So
Speaker 3: do you ever feel like you have ever like consider
Speaker 3: maybe hitting therapy, talking out some of your ship like that.
Speaker 2: I tried that before. Oh you did. Yeah, like talking
Speaker 2: to somebody all the time.
Speaker 1: It work a little bit, It's cool, Yeah, but I'd
Speaker 1: rather just do music for real, like that is your therapy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I love that this album you're about to release is
Speaker 3: your first album as an independent artist, right, which is
Speaker 3: a big deal. Yeah, this is a new space for
Speaker 3: you to be who you are with already with a
Speaker 3: five times platinum record, and now you're able to kind
Speaker 3: of move freely. You're able to kind of call the
Speaker 3: shot to do what you want to do. How does
Speaker 3: it feel like it? Is it something there's got to
Speaker 3: be like a cool just energy to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel free. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: keep saying that, but that's what it feels like. Feel
Speaker 1: like a waiter is off my shoulder.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I get to see certain things, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I get to move how I want to. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just a better positive energy all the way around,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. You know what I'm excited for.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what would you say your was
Speaker 3: your biggest For people who think you just disappeared, what
Speaker 3: would you attribute that to the reason of that is it?
Speaker 3: Is it the label thing or is it just like
Speaker 3: what was? What was? What's the reason why we haven't
Speaker 3: gotten a lot of music from you in the last
Speaker 3: few years.
Speaker 2: It's a label thing. Yeah, it was a label thing,
Speaker 2: bro for sure.
Speaker 3: Is it hard to still stay motivated if you feel
Speaker 3: like you're kind of like, no.
Speaker 1: I'm still living. You know, my two feet still move,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I mean I'm grateful
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And I can work and I can grind, I can
Speaker 1: do what I want to do steal, So I love it.
Speaker 2: I ain't tripping. I always stay motivated.
Speaker 3: Uh your writing process? Are you the type of artist?
Speaker 3: Because when I hear your ship, I feel like you
Speaker 3: lay the melody first and then you go in and
Speaker 3: feeling the lyrics. Is that what you do? No? Pen
Speaker 3: straight like.
Speaker 2: Stroud this out?
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: My homies be laughing at me because they'd be like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing in there? He's just mumbling and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm just humming.
Speaker 3: And you know, trying to catch the vibe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they come back five minutes later it's a
Speaker 2: whole song. They're like, oh man, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Is that quick five minutes, you're you're a beast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll be going crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean you just told me I had like two
Speaker 3: hundred unreleased songs.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a lot of release music.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that there's gonna be a whole lot of
Speaker 3: pressure coming from you. H Do you look five years
Speaker 3: is a long time from having a record that kind
Speaker 3: of puts you on the forefront of hip hop for
Speaker 3: a while, right, right? Do you feel like you have
Speaker 3: to get any of those like because fans have a
Speaker 3: short attention span extended I mean nowadays, man, I feel
Speaker 3: like fans are extremely finicky. They're very fair weather fans,
Speaker 3: Like they'll be fucking with you one day until the
Speaker 3: next shit comes out.
Speaker 1: And right, and then that might be better or whatever
Speaker 1: it is right for you.
Speaker 3: You kind of feel like you're a new artist all
Speaker 3: over again, Like you got to kind of remind people
Speaker 3: who you are and what you're in, what you're doing,
Speaker 3: and like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I feel like that, Yeah, but every day I
Speaker 1: get reminded why it's not that still.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I walk into a room, everybody know what it
Speaker 1: is already, so sight somewhere in between you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just a restart for me, but to
Speaker 1: be a fresh artist. Nah, they know what it is already.
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Speaker 3: I was. I told you I saw that flat interview
Speaker 3: last year. Did you and the baby ever work out
Speaker 3: whatever you guys had going on Internet? It was just
Speaker 3: like some comments getting left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just you know, he was
Speaker 2: mad in my comments.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the media, you're giving.
Speaker 3: Your you were giving your opinion on how you felt
Speaker 3: about certain ship. Yeah, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: People can feel it. I mean, I just had STG
Speaker 3: walk out of an interview because I asked him about label.
Speaker 2: So I saw that, bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah you haven't walked out yet.
Speaker 2: No, No, you cool.
Speaker 3: You. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You asked me weird.
Speaker 3: Uh man, talk to me about just Chicago, bro, because
Speaker 3: obviously you know there's been so much I mean, shit, man,
Speaker 3: Derek has a headline and arena tour right now. I
Speaker 3: was just there, oh in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I just came from.
Speaker 3: Now I opened up. The first day was were you
Speaker 3: there when the shooting had happened?
Speaker 2: And that was the day after the day You weren't.
Speaker 3: At that show?
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't there. Okay, the crew was there though,
Speaker 1: some of the guys was there. Well, I went there, but.
Speaker 3: The first day was cool.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was no shooting though. I think
Speaker 2: that's cap though.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just know that there was this video.
Speaker 1: I know, I know some folks was fighting and somebody
Speaker 1: might have got cut or stabbed or something.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was no shooting.
Speaker 3: I just saw the video everyone running and then everyone
Speaker 3: just grabbing merch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see it was a lot of that going
Speaker 1: on because the show ended early. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: the fans was upset for real or something was was
Speaker 1: Kodak on that show?
Speaker 2: I don't know who was there? Who was there that day?
Speaker 3: I feel like kok on that you toured with Kodak? Right,
Speaker 3: What was that like.
Speaker 2: With Kodak? Was fun?
Speaker 3: He seems like a fun Hay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was cool. He was real cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He seems like a a guy who I'd like
Speaker 3: to have a beer with. That's it though, That's it.
Speaker 3: None else. I don't know what else he was doing.
Speaker 3: Meant just take the beer man.
Speaker 1: I was around Kodak when we was doing shows, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He hopped on my tour bus
Speaker 1: a few times. On the record, I had the little
Speaker 1: portable studio with me set up. Yeah, so I recorded
Speaker 1: a song fro him.
Speaker 3: What draft? Did draft? Like? The scarlet? A little scarlet like.
Speaker 2: I had to Apollo?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hit the Apollo arrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We just vabbed the whole time. It was like forty
Speaker 2: something shows.
Speaker 3: As I say, like from when you kind of popped
Speaker 3: initially that now, how do you feel about like kind
Speaker 3: of the state of Chicago hip hop?
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. A lot of females is turning up
Speaker 1: in our city right now. But it's cool right now.
Speaker 3: I had a young lady from Chicago here. Who was it?
Speaker 3: We just had somebody here from Chicago.
Speaker 2: That's a girl who Melo? Now?
Speaker 3: Who the fuck was just Fendy? Yeah, she's great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's a she's she's super cool. That's who's Mellow Mellow Racks.
Speaker 3: Is she from?
Speaker 2: Uh No, not Mellow Racks, Mellow Bucks?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because there's Mellow Racks.
Speaker 2: So I think Melo Racks from like Miami.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because she's on Y M C n B.
Speaker 3: I think her. Are you doing any writing or have
Speaker 3: you done any been doing any writing for any.
Speaker 2: Other artists as recently?
Speaker 3: No? Is that ever like a bag you try to
Speaker 3: get into?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't tapped in, you know,
Speaker 1: once or twice maybe, you know, I don't. Gave a
Speaker 1: few artists a few records. I gave Y g a
Speaker 1: record for one of his past albums. Uh. I gave
Speaker 1: a few other people some records. I can't really, you know,
Speaker 1: say nothing.
Speaker 3: I can't say the White g One you could say, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was just you know, it was cool.
Speaker 1: He hit me one time like, yo, you a song
Speaker 1: with one of my producers. I want it straight like that, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I want it. I don't want to change nothing on
Speaker 1: it or nothing. I just want to throw my verse
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: Keep it moving.
Speaker 2: And it's on the album Boom That's fire, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm with it.
Speaker 3: That's dope. Is it hard for you to find like
Speaker 3: people who are willing to work with you now that
Speaker 3: you're independent on the production side, that are just willing
Speaker 3: to kind of like not work with you. But like,
Speaker 3: like we were talking a little bit off the air,
Speaker 3: like the biggest part about being independent is the headache
Speaker 3: of like clear and shit. Yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's like it's almost like they might
Speaker 3: still look at you like you got that RCA budget
Speaker 3: behind Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, that's what I was saying, Like I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm somewhere in between, because people still look at me
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, They like, yeah, we need
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3: You know, this ain't RCA on my own.
Speaker 1: It's out of the pocket, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They like, you know that's what it is.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I feel like they're because I always hear
Speaker 3: artists have certain rates, like even if you buy a
Speaker 3: feature from somebody like the Homies would be like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm in I'm in Phoenix home town. Like I tell people,
Speaker 3: if they're independent, this is the price, but if they're major,
Speaker 3: this is the price. There's like the indie and the
Speaker 3: major price. I feel like for beats, that should be
Speaker 3: the same shit, right it should? Yeah, but or like
Speaker 3: take a cut, take a nice cut, you know, like
Speaker 3: let's collaborated.
Speaker 1: And then producers still won a couple points and all
Speaker 1: that extra. So it's like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: You gotta get artificial intelligence to make you some bet.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: I think AI can make beats. Isn't that happening?
Speaker 2: They can?
Speaker 3: It's not good. I heard one. I think I heard
Speaker 3: of fake Timbaland beat that wasn't terrible.
Speaker 2: You don't think you don't think we're living in a
Speaker 2: matrix bro.
Speaker 3: I've really started to think about it more recently with
Speaker 3: some of the shit that's been happening, because I always
Speaker 3: would be like, like, when you do you see like
Speaker 3: the birds frozen in the air. There's like hundreds of
Speaker 3: videos of just birds that just stopped flying and they're
Speaker 3: just steal in the air.
Speaker 2: And they're not flapping the wings and now they're.
Speaker 3: Just they're just in the they're just paused.
Speaker 2: Bro, showing me the footage to hold on, bro, let
Speaker 2: me show you, Bro. I want to see the footage
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 3: This ship is crazy. This ship is crazy. Hold on,
Speaker 3: you got the birds?
Speaker 2: Is that real? Though? Like?
Speaker 3: God, hold on, look, birds got on the water? Yeah,
Speaker 3: we got more water. We grab a water over there.
Speaker 2: Let me see. Appreciate your brother.
Speaker 3: The ship it looks like a flash.
Speaker 1: Bird man, get the fuck out of him.
Speaker 3: There strings doing nothing is the only one who saw it.
Speaker 2: Hell, this ship is the fuck out of here is another.
Speaker 4: One fucking birds floating in the air, man, get the
Speaker 4: fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: That shit looks real.
Speaker 3: People saying that it's dimensional glitches.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: I do some research. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, then when you see the like did you see
Speaker 3: the government official like saying that they're like aliens are real?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've seen that, So that it made me
Speaker 1: even really be like you're seeing that, Like, what's really
Speaker 1: going on right now?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I'll be on some other ship though. I already already
Speaker 2: be thinking of some other shit going on.
Speaker 3: What do you think is going on?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like she ain't the only ones walking
Speaker 1: around this motherfucker like how we think we is.
Speaker 3: I think that's the facts for sure.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think they're preparing us because.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you Christian, if a lot of people
Speaker 1: walk around say they Christian, I mean they mentioned a
Speaker 1: lot of different creatures inside of that book we read,
Speaker 1: so she I mean, what did they wipe out the
Speaker 1: face of the earth. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, so you think it might be some demon
Speaker 3: shit going.
Speaker 1: On, No, some like entities you know, you know they
Speaker 1: speak about giants all type of shit, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: type of.
Speaker 2: Non human beings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and shit that you'd be like, oh, this is like,
Speaker 3: you know, some cool like fairy tale shit, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well some of that ship might be for real,
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, I stayed the fuck out of
Speaker 1: the way to give my money.
Speaker 3: If you look at some of the old school hieroglyphics
Speaker 3: from like Egypt and ship, some of the ship in
Speaker 3: those hieroglyphics is like, bro, they got to see this shit.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, you know what I'm saying, like there
Speaker 3: had to be some shit going on that like we
Speaker 3: were weren't privy too, because motherfuckers wasn't.
Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna get that to aliens though. I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get that to aliens though.
Speaker 3: That right there, Well, what's in the hieroglyphics, like the
Speaker 3: pictures of like like alien looking motherfuckers that were like carved.
Speaker 2: Into like me.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that was a different type of being.
Speaker 1: It might be an alien to you because you don't
Speaker 1: understand it, but.
Speaker 3: I guess aliens to us, right, non human? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean it's kind of the definition.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, so you're.
Speaker 1: Right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I was going to go into some other other shit.
Speaker 3: You're good, you got it, but they got like, you know,
Speaker 3: fucking all this UFO. Like did you see what happened
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas? There was this family in Las Vegas
Speaker 3: that called the police because they said there was like
Speaker 3: three like ten foot things in their backyard creatures right right,
Speaker 3: and with that, and so the family, uh cia came,
Speaker 3: the police came. The police saw the fucking thing. So
Speaker 3: there's the cops bodycam footage being like, I just saw
Speaker 3: that shit take off from your backyard, Like, am I crazy?
Speaker 3: Am I not the only people who saw this? But
Speaker 3: like some jeepus creepysh like some like some like a
Speaker 3: like once the police got there, some like whatever craft
Speaker 3: popped out of these people's backyard. So the cops were
Speaker 3: like all talking about it, like we're not crazy, we
Speaker 3: just saw that, right, And then for like the next month,
Speaker 3: the uh there was black trucks that were just lying
Speaker 3: up on their street for like an Then the family
Speaker 3: was documenting it like on TikTok and shit. They're like, look,
Speaker 3: there's more big SUVs outside of our house that have
Speaker 3: been here all week.
Speaker 2: Some done got out of Area fifty one.
Speaker 3: Which is in Vegas. Well it's in Nevada. I used
Speaker 3: to live there, so Area fifty one was wild. You
Speaker 3: could drive up to like a certain point and.
Speaker 2: Then there's some shit over there.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure they have. They told me so. I
Speaker 3: lived in Vegas for a few years. And you know
Speaker 3: who Molly mall is bald producer, used to be on
Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop. He's made a lot of big beats. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think so he had a security guard, and the
Speaker 3: security guard was a former like military decorated guy, right
Speaker 3: like top knocked security guy. He was explaining to us
Speaker 3: when he worked, because he said he worked at Area
Speaker 3: fifty one as a contractor, and he said that they
Speaker 3: had like other soldiers behind him who had higher clearance
Speaker 3: than them, and they like, let's say, they brought him
Speaker 3: into a room and they're like, hey, you gotta work
Speaker 3: on this wall. But they were being held like I
Speaker 3: guard the whole time, so they wouldn't walk anywhere else
Speaker 3: in the area, you know what I'm saying. And he
Speaker 3: said that while he was there, he saw like a
Speaker 3: medal or like some sort of matter. No matter what
Speaker 3: you did to it, if you if you blew it up,
Speaker 3: if you shot it, if you bent it, if you
Speaker 3: tore it apart, it always came back together to the same.
Speaker 2: Uh form, some transforming ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who poo Beer is, the writer poo Bear.
Speaker 3: He wrote all justin Bieber Shit. Me and poo Bear
Speaker 3: was just like we were just listening to this dude
Speaker 3: one night at Molly Mall's crib, high as fun.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? I can believe it?
Speaker 3: Though, shot my brother poo bear.
Speaker 2: Man, I think I think ship like that exists.
Speaker 3: Man, I just think, you know, they just let us do.
Speaker 3: That's why I think they're easing us into some ship,
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Speaker 3: on this new album? Do you have any features or
Speaker 3: is it just you or it's just me?
Speaker 1: I like that it's just me. I think I just
Speaker 1: I mean, I flooded myself with features.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's time to just get
Speaker 2: a world of me, you know, build on my fans.
Speaker 3: And it's important too because this is your first independent album.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I'm a stand out on my
Speaker 3: own for real exactly. I like that.
Speaker 2: That's where my mom comes from.
Speaker 3: When is the project coming? You gotta release itay yet.
Speaker 2: Not an exact day, Give me a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be here.
Speaker 3: It's coming.
Speaker 2: Tune a real song.
Speaker 3: How often do you plan on just dropping now that
Speaker 3: you're like, you know, you ain't got the red tape,
Speaker 3: the yellow tape around you from the label.
Speaker 1: I mean I say every two months, it's not bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say every two months, I mean a.
Speaker 3: Song or a project project.
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm gonna ever get them singles and
Speaker 1: I always feed them.
Speaker 3: Every too much dropping the project. I like that. Why
Speaker 3: be independent if you ain't gonna do it the right way? Right? Yo?
Speaker 3: It's crazy when you were at What's the Weirdest? Did
Speaker 3: like because you always hear like when people are on
Speaker 3: major labels, they get certain features that try to get
Speaker 3: pushed onto them. They'll be like, hey, look we want
Speaker 3: to get you in with this person, or hey, this
Speaker 3: song is just it just just put a verse on
Speaker 3: it and it's a hit. Did they try to do
Speaker 3: that with you over there? They didn't.
Speaker 2: Most of my features came from me, so.
Speaker 3: They never were like, hey try this nah nah.
Speaker 1: Most of my well, all of my features came from me.
Speaker 1: Just like reaching out to people.
Speaker 3: People who you fucked with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Gotti meet derk Alum. It's just like, yo,
Speaker 1: hop on this for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 3: You know who Bob is. So back in the day,
Speaker 3: like Atlantic Records had a hard time popping Bob off,
Speaker 3: which was on their damn not him because he's extremely talented.
Speaker 3: So at the time, Bruno Mars was shopping around all
Speaker 3: these hooks because no one knew who he was. He
Speaker 3: was just a writer. And uh, what was that first
Speaker 3: Bob song? Was it Beautiful Girls? So that song go
Speaker 3: beautiful Girl? What's it called nothing on You? Nothing on You?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, called nothing on You? So Atlantic was just trying
Speaker 3: to get somebody to take the song. Loupe Fiasco cut
Speaker 3: on it and then didn't like it, so it should
Speaker 3: have been loop a song he passed on it.
Speaker 2: Why did he do that? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Igo Goat, by.
Speaker 2: The way, tweaked one.
Speaker 3: Of the greatest rappers of all time for talking about
Speaker 3: the straight lyricism. Uh, and then Bob ended up with it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, but yeah, I usually be hot
Speaker 1: when I was young.
Speaker 3: For sure. What about the OG's in Chicago tapping in
Speaker 3: with you? Like got a loopey type of dude or yeah,
Speaker 3: obviously yay's the Goat you know?
Speaker 2: Uh Yay? I mean I tapped in with ya.
Speaker 1: Camp definitely tapped in with a lot of the other.
Speaker 2: Local legends, crucial conflict individuals.
Speaker 3: Like that L E. P Bumpy shot the bump Jay.
Speaker 3: Yeah you about fucking uh? Do or Die?
Speaker 2: I ain't chopped it up.
Speaker 3: Would you listen to growing up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still I still listen to do it died
Speaker 1: to this day, I might be cleaning up the house.
Speaker 3: Crucial Conflict slept on motherfucking groups ever facts the first
Speaker 3: Crucial Conflict Awn, which you probably weren't alive for. It's
Speaker 3: called the Final Tick.
Speaker 2: Right when they come out what you I think that.
Speaker 3: Was ninety five or six, yet it might have been
Speaker 3: ninety six. They had a song called Hey show Down.
Speaker 3: Yeah I was probably I was like ten. You weren't
Speaker 3: born yet, though, but yeah, do or Die? Pope pimpin man,
Speaker 3: what are we talking about? Have you, you know, Twists
Speaker 3: out there doing gun classes. Yeah, he's like teaching people
Speaker 3: like how to responsibly own weapons in Chicago to protect themselves,
Speaker 3: so to take people and they do classes like how
Speaker 3: to shoot, how to look, how to get your license.
Speaker 2: Twist. Actually, my my og went to school with Twister.
Speaker 3: That was oh wow. The shout out to Twister man.
Speaker 1: She says he used to be in the back of
Speaker 1: the bus rapping fastest. Yeah, fastest. Hell, they used to
Speaker 1: be telling me nobody want to hear that ship all day.
Speaker 1: Twist bro, slow that ship.
Speaker 3: Down, ship the whole career later.
Speaker 2: One of them. All right.
Speaker 3: Well look man, a new project on the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Unchained, Unchained.
Speaker 3: Congrats on your independence. Uh we just also dropped the freestyles.
Speaker 3: You go check that out separate YouTube video. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 3: appreciate you pulling up man, and I look forward to
Speaker 3: to hearing the album I.
Speaker 2: Love Brother Fire.
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