WEBVTT - #360 - Calboy 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.160 Yo, it's cat Away checking in, checking me out on 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.920 the bootleg kV podcast. 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:06.880 It's lit, it's a movie. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:12.799 Let's get it, yo, boutleg cab podcast. Man, we got 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.000 a special guest in here. Cowboys in the building. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.120 What's up, man, what's happening? What's happening. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:18.720 I'm chilling, brother. It's good to see you. It's been 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.919 a minute since. I been like five years since I 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.119 saw you. What have you been up to? 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.560 Working hard, working hard? Thank you? Smart, trying to maneuver, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.000 get over obstacles. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.400 Yeah, I mean I saw you did lad like a 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.680 year ago, and I saw I mean because listen, you 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.320 have had one of the bigger records in the last 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.800 five years. Envy me was a moment? Was it triple platinum? 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.680 It's five times now, five times platinum? 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.320 My goodness, that's fire. That's gotta be a dope plaque. Like, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.640 did you get the five times platinum plac yet? 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:50.280 No? 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:51.640 You gotta you gotta buy that one. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.400 Yeah, yeah, I'm on it. I'm gonna get I'll stopped 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:55.000 at three. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.160 Yeah like that. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.120 Every time you get a new certification, I need to 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.960 get a new plaque. It's like Jesus right, But yeah, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.000 I mean, I know you kind of went through it 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.000 with with with the label at the time because you 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.360 were with RCA M. Now you're fully independent, So congrats 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.920 to that. I always congratulate artists when they're independent because 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.080 I think it's the way to go. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.160 Finally free type. Shit. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.160 What was the uphill battle for you with you know, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.200 because from a fans perspective, a lot of people like, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.840 we're having a cowboy, you know what I'm saying. So 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.200 what's been going on and what was kind of some 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.280 of the uh, you know, things you had to go 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.000 through with getting out of that deal and and trying 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.319 to move on and get this music out that you're 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:34.720 sitting on. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.000 Well, I would say one of the bigger problems was like. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.000 The back end business, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.279 getting like different personalities to see out of eye things 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.240 like that to actually get the ball rolling. That was 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.520 very difficult in my situation, you know what I'm saying, in. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.600 Terms of just like agreeing on what to put out, 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.360 agreeing on when to put it out. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:03.000 Yeah, So from a fan's perspective, it looks like cal 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.360 ain't working or he ain't he don't care about us type, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.600 And then I kind of disappeared to them. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.440 I mean that's what I was, like, what happened to cowboy? 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.119 My boy hit me? And I was like, oh, because 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.240 I remember you did Divide interview that went viral for 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:17.720 other reasons. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.280 It's just a lot of the bs behind closed doors 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.079 just slowed down, a consistency and the flow. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.160 Yeah, because people don't understand, like when you're on a 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.000 major label, it is very much a mutual relationship. So 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.160 in their eyes, per your contract, if you turn a 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:36.919 body of work in and we released it, I owe 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.840 you money. Here's an advance for that album. Right, So 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.120 in their eyes, their perspective is, well, we got to 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.799 feel good about whatever this is. We got to agree 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.560 on if we feel strong about all these records, and 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.520 then that's when you know, or you know, you got 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.000 to catch a moment and force their hand almost right, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.120 you know what I'm saying. So there is always that 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.800 gridlock on the major label side. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.239 Yeah, So that's what it was. Yeah, for sure, And 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.440 and I figured it out. I got up out of there. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:05.480 Now we work. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.640 Was it easy to get your obviously it wasn't easy 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.160 to get your release, But tell me about that process 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.320 of getting released off of. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.519 It took a couple of years. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:21.080 Yeah, took a little money, took a strong support system. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:22.800 Did you have to buy yourself out? 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.600 Not necessarily, No, okay, but I had to just let 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:29.400 a lot of things go. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.880 Yeah, if you get what. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.480 I mean in terms of, like some of your music 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:39.040 you recorded on their dime. Yeah, so it's like you 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.080 record music on their dime, you might not ever hear 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.320 that music. But do they still have the right Jesus sorry, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.440 do they still have the right to release that music? 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.800 Or is it just like, hey, this is us, you 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.120 know what I'm saying, Like, you go do your thing. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.480 Yeah, it's really it's really like that, I'm just doing 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.840 my own thing. They ain't really worried about the other music, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.800 but I'm sure they would cause a hass if I 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:01.560 try to like. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.680 Drop stuff on you. Yeah, no, that makes sense. I've 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.960 had friends of mine who's like been on major labels 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.440 and then they'll get with like a really big producer, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.160 like let's just use an example, Timbaland or somebody right right, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.120 and then they get off of the label, but they 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.480 still got all these unreleased songs with like these giant producers, 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:24.760 and they're like, ah, do I risk just throwing this 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.560 shit out there to see what happens, you know. I 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.240 mean it can work both ways. It could work out, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.040 or it could be like, yeah, you get a cease 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:33.760 and assist. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.640 Right now working on like all fresh music. You know 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.359 the energy that I'm in right now, how I feel 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:40.800 right now. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.680 So no, the new songs Dope. I watched the video 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.320 It's dope, Dope record Snap. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.719 For sure, that was one of the ones where I 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.640 was just feeling myself, you know what I'm saying. But 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.040 that's the start of it, unchanged, just explaining like what 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.279 I really went through for real. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.800 Yeah, well for people who don't know because I saw it. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.479 I mean, you lost a lot of your personal friends. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.040 I think you lost twelve friends in a year now 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.560 eight and two eight year eight friends in two years. Yeah, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.240 so that's gotta be like. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.720 Three of them was family members, a older cousin, a 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.559 younger cousin, and a cousin around my age. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.680 It's crazy because we hear that same story coming from 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.400 so many people from your city, right and it's like, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.200 you know, ge Herbalt has a song called PTSD and 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.880 he talks a lot about like the mental strength you 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.880 have to have to be from where he's from, where 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.240 you're from, you know what I'm saying. And to deal 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.039 with so much loss and so much hurt, Like do 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.360 you ever feel like you had an opportunity to really mourn. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.359 Yeah, behind closed doors when you were by yourself, you 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:41.920 know what I'm saying. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:47.240 But you grow I mean numb to it. You know 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:47.720 what I'm saying. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.800 You get used to it. I wouldn't say numb to 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.080 it because you still care, but. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.920 No, but it's it's used to it. Yeah, you can get. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.520 I mean, it's something you can get used to if 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.440 you get There's women out here who are getting cheated 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.800 on by the same guy for a decade who I know, 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.200 And I'm like, well, you're just used to it at 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.120 this point, like you don't even care anymore, Like you like, 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.799 shit happens to you and unfortunately, no matter how traumatic 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.800 it is, like you're kind of conditioned to deal with it. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:11.559 You know what I'm saying. 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.280 I always say it could be worse. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.120 That's what I mean. Everything could always be worse. So 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.279 do you ever feel like you have ever like consider 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.680 maybe hitting therapy, talking out some of your ship like that. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.760 I tried that before. Oh you did. Yeah, like talking 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.600 to somebody all the time. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.920 It work a little bit, It's cool, Yeah, but I'd 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.200 rather just do music for real, like that is your therapy. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:41.279 Yeah, that's what it is. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.839 I love that this album you're about to release is 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.880 your first album as an independent artist, right, which is 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:53.240 a big deal. Yeah, this is a new space for 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.480 you to be who you are with already with a 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.920 five times platinum record, and now you're able to kind 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:01.760 of move freely. You're able to kind of call the 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.560 shot to do what you want to do. How does 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.960 it feel like it? Is it something there's got to 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.120 be like a cool just energy to that. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:10.960 Yeah? 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.560 Yeah, yeah, I feel free. I don't know why I 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.840 keep saying that, but that's what it feels like. Feel 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.120 like a waiter is off my shoulder. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:18.920 You know. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.200 I get to see certain things, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.920 I get to move how I want to. I mean, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.000 it's just a better positive energy all the way around, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:26.600 you know what I'm saying. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.400 That's how I feel. You know what I'm excited for. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:30.880 I was gonna say, what would you say your was 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.040 your biggest For people who think you just disappeared, what 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.480 would you attribute that to the reason of that is it? 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.000 Is it the label thing or is it just like 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:40.960 what was? What was? What's the reason why we haven't 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.560 gotten a lot of music from you in the last 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:43.320 few years. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.040 It's a label thing. Yeah, it was a label thing, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.360 bro for sure. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.840 Is it hard to still stay motivated if you feel 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.080 like you're kind of like, no. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.440 I'm still living. You know, my two feet still move, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.480 you know what I'm saying. So I mean I'm grateful 0:07:59.480 --> 0:07:59.720 for that. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:00.240 Yep. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.640 And I can work and I can grind, I can 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.840 do what I want to do steal, So I love it. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.800 I ain't tripping. I always stay motivated. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.160 Uh your writing process? Are you the type of artist? 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.840 Because when I hear your ship, I feel like you 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.560 lay the melody first and then you go in and 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.960 feeling the lyrics. Is that what you do? No? Pen 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:20.040 straight like. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:21.480 Stroud this out? 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:22.200 I love it. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.200 My homies be laughing at me because they'd be like, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.320 what are you doing in there? He's just mumbling and 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.360 I'd be like, I'm just humming. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.840 And you know, trying to catch the vibe. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.120 Yeah, And they come back five minutes later it's a 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.120 whole song. They're like, oh man, that's crazy. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.240 Is that quick five minutes, you're you're a beast. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:37.520 Yeah, yeah, I'll be going crazy. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:38.720 I mean you just told me I had like two 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.199 hundred unreleased songs. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.120 So yeah, I got a lot of release music. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.560 I'm assuming that there's gonna be a whole lot of 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:50.240 pressure coming from you. H Do you look five years 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.600 is a long time from having a record that kind 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.200 of puts you on the forefront of hip hop for 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.679 a while, right, right? Do you feel like you have 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.760 to get any of those like because fans have a 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:06.600 short attention span extended I mean nowadays, man, I feel 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:12.280 like fans are extremely finicky. They're very fair weather fans, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.000 Like they'll be fucking with you one day until the 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.079 next shit comes out. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.520 And right, and then that might be better or whatever 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.439 it is right for you. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.360 You kind of feel like you're a new artist all 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.640 over again, Like you got to kind of remind people 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.160 who you are and what you're in, what you're doing, 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:25.760 and like, you. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:30.440 Know, I feel like that, Yeah, but every day I 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.360 get reminded why it's not that still. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:33.280 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.320 When I walk into a room, everybody know what it 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:40.240 is already, so sight somewhere in between you know what 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.160 I'm saying. 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It was just 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.400 like some comments getting left. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just you know, he was 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:26.960 mad in my comments. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.760 I mean, I mean, at the end of the day, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.319 the media, you're giving. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.679 Your you were giving your opinion on how you felt 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.439 about certain ship. Yeah, you know, it is what it is. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.880 People can feel it. I mean, I just had STG 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.640 walk out of an interview because I asked him about label. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.439 So I saw that, bro. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.080 Yeah you haven't walked out yet. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:46.800 No, No, you cool. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:47.640 You. I appreciate it. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.880 You asked me weird. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.080 Uh man, talk to me about just Chicago, bro, because 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.480 obviously you know there's been so much I mean, shit, man, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.720 Derek has a headline and arena tour right now. I 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.080 was just there, oh in Chicago. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.880 Yeah, that's where I just came from. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.920 Now I opened up. The first day was were you 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.560 there when the shooting had happened? 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.640 And that was the day after the day You weren't. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:13.880 At that show? 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.480 No, I wasn't there. Okay, the crew was there though, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.720 some of the guys was there. Well, I went there, but. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.080 The first day was cool. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.840 I don't think it was no shooting though. I think 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:23.520 that's cap though. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.840 I don't know. I just know that there was this video. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.160 I know, I know some folks was fighting and somebody 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.000 might have got cut or stabbed or something. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.240 I don't think it was no shooting. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.079 I just saw the video everyone running and then everyone 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.480 just grabbing merch. Yeah. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.360 Yeah, yeah, see it was a lot of that going 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.720 on because the show ended early. Yeah, so I think 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.959 the fans was upset for real or something was was 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:43.959 Kodak on that show? 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.800 I don't know who was there? Who was there that day? 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.600 I feel like kok on that you toured with Kodak? Right, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.560 What was that like. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:54.800 With Kodak? Was fun? 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.360 He seems like a fun Hay? 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.400 Yeah, he was cool. He was real cool. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.719 Yeah. He seems like a a guy who I'd like 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.000 to have a beer with. That's it though, That's it. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.440 None else. I don't know what else he was doing. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.040 Meant just take the beer man. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.360 I was around Kodak when we was doing shows, you 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.440 know what I'm saying. He hopped on my tour bus 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.480 a few times. On the record, I had the little 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.840 portable studio with me set up. Yeah, so I recorded 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.000 a song fro him. 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.160 What draft? Did draft? Like? The scarlet? A little scarlet like. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.400 I had to Apollo? 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:27.600 Yeah? 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hit the Apollo arrow. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:32.200 Yeah. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.280 We just vabbed the whole time. It was like forty 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:34.960 something shows. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.000 As I say, like from when you kind of popped 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.280 initially that now, how do you feel about like kind 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:41.520 of the state of Chicago hip hop? 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.520 It's pretty cool. A lot of females is turning up 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:52.880 in our city right now. But it's cool right now. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.040 I had a young lady from Chicago here. Who was it? 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.840 We just had somebody here from Chicago. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.760 That's a girl who Melo? Now? 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:08.480 Who the fuck was just Fendy? Yeah, she's great. Yeah, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:14.120 she's a she's she's super cool. That's who's Mellow Mellow Racks. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:15.120 Is she from? 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.400 Uh No, not Mellow Racks, Mellow Bucks? 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:18.840 Okay, okay, because there's Mellow Racks. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.280 So I think Melo Racks from like Miami. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because she's on Y M C n B. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:29.120 I think her. Are you doing any writing or have 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.200 you done any been doing any writing for any. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.600 Other artists as recently? 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.880 No? Is that ever like a bag you try to 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:36.320 get into? 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't tapped in, you know, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.640 once or twice maybe, you know, I don't. Gave a 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.080 few artists a few records. I gave Y g a 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.200 record for one of his past albums. Uh. I gave 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.680 a few other people some records. I can't really, you know, 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:53.200 say nothing. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.240 I can't say the White g One you could say, yeah. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.640 Yeah, because it was just you know, it was cool. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.000 He hit me one time like, yo, you a song 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.240 with one of my producers. I want it straight like that, like, yo, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:05.640 I want it. I don't want to change nothing on 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.080 it or nothing. I just want to throw my verse 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:07.520 on it. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:08.280 Keep it moving. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.920 And it's on the album Boom That's fire, and I'm like, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:12.600 I'm with it. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.600 That's dope. Is it hard for you to find like 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.000 people who are willing to work with you now that 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.520 you're independent on the production side, that are just willing 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.400 to kind of like not work with you. But like, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:24.720 like we were talking a little bit off the air, 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.560 like the biggest part about being independent is the headache 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.480 of like clear and shit. Yeah, yeah, you know what 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.880 I'm saying. So it's like it's almost like they might 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.160 still look at you like you got that RCA budget 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:34.720 behind Yeah. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.920 See, that's what I was saying, Like I don't think 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.400 I'm somewhere in between, because people still look at me 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:39.800 like that. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.320 You know what I'm saying, They like, yeah, we need 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:42.200 fifteen thousand. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.880 You know, this ain't RCA on my own. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.400 It's out of the pocket, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.600 They like, you know that's what it is. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.680 That's crazy. I feel like they're because I always hear 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.800 artists have certain rates, like even if you buy a 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.960 feature from somebody like the Homies would be like, hey, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.520 I'm in I'm in Phoenix home town. Like I tell people, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.680 if they're independent, this is the price, but if they're major, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.879 this is the price. There's like the indie and the 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.760 major price. I feel like for beats, that should be 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.199