1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Yo, it's cat Away checking in, checking me out on 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: the bootleg kV podcast. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: It's lit, it's a movie. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 3: Let's get it, yo, boutleg cab podcast. Man, we got 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: a special guest in here. Cowboys in the building. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: What's up, man, what's happening? What's happening. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm chilling, brother. It's good to see you. It's been 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 3: a minute since. I been like five years since I 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 3: saw you. What have you been up to? 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Working hard, working hard? Thank you? Smart, trying to maneuver, 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: get over obstacles. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I saw you did lad like a 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: year ago, and I saw I mean because listen, you 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: have had one of the bigger records in the last 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: five years. Envy me was a moment? Was it triple platinum? 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: It's five times now, five times platinum? 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: My goodness, that's fire. That's gotta be a dope plaque. Like, 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: did you get the five times platinum plac yet? 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: No? 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta buy that one. 21 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm on it. I'm gonna get I'll stopped 22 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: at three. 23 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah like that. 24 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Every time you get a new certification, I need to 25 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: get a new plaque. It's like Jesus right, But yeah, 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you kind of went through it 27 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: with with with the label at the time because you 28 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: were with RCA M. Now you're fully independent, So congrats 29 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: to that. I always congratulate artists when they're independent because 30 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: I think it's the way to go. 31 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Finally free type. Shit. 32 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: What was the uphill battle for you with you know, 33 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: because from a fans perspective, a lot of people like, 34 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: we're having a cowboy, you know what I'm saying. So 35 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: what's been going on and what was kind of some 36 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: of the uh, you know, things you had to go 37 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: through with getting out of that deal and and trying 38 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: to move on and get this music out that you're 39 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: sitting on. 40 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, I would say one of the bigger problems was like. 41 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: The back end business, you know what I'm saying, Like 42 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 1: getting like different personalities to see out of eye things 43 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: like that to actually get the ball rolling. That was 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: very difficult in my situation, you know what I'm saying, in. 45 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Terms of just like agreeing on what to put out, 46 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: agreeing on when to put it out. 47 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So from a fan's perspective, it looks like cal 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: ain't working or he ain't he don't care about us type, 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: And then I kind of disappeared to them. 50 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: I mean that's what I was, like, what happened to cowboy? 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 3: My boy hit me? And I was like, oh, because 52 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: I remember you did Divide interview that went viral for 53 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: other reasons. 54 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of the bs behind closed doors 55 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: just slowed down, a consistency and the flow. 56 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, because people don't understand, like when you're on a 57 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: major label, it is very much a mutual relationship. So 58 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: in their eyes, per your contract, if you turn a 59 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: body of work in and we released it, I owe 60 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: you money. Here's an advance for that album. Right, So 61 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: in their eyes, their perspective is, well, we got to 62 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: feel good about whatever this is. We got to agree 63 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: on if we feel strong about all these records, and 64 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: then that's when you know, or you know, you got 65 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: to catch a moment and force their hand almost right, 66 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So there is always that 67 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: gridlock on the major label side. 68 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what it was. Yeah, for sure, And 69 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: and I figured it out. I got up out of there. 70 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Now we work. 71 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: Was it easy to get your obviously it wasn't easy 72 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: to get your release, But tell me about that process 73 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: of getting released off of. 74 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: It took a couple of years. 75 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, took a little money, took a strong support system. 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: Did you have to buy yourself out? 77 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Not necessarily, No, okay, but I had to just let 78 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: a lot of things go. 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get what. 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean in terms of, like some of your music 81 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: you recorded on their dime. Yeah, so it's like you 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: record music on their dime, you might not ever hear 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: that music. But do they still have the right Jesus sorry, 84 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: do they still have the right to release that music? 85 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: Or is it just like, hey, this is us, you 86 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, you go do your thing. 87 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really it's really like that, I'm just doing 88 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: my own thing. They ain't really worried about the other music, 89 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: but I'm sure they would cause a hass if I 90 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: try to like. 91 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: Drop stuff on you. Yeah, no, that makes sense. I've 92 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: had friends of mine who's like been on major labels 93 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: and then they'll get with like a really big producer, 94 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: like let's just use an example, Timbaland or somebody right right, 95 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: and then they get off of the label, but they 96 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: still got all these unreleased songs with like these giant producers, 97 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: and they're like, ah, do I risk just throwing this 98 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: shit out there to see what happens, you know. I 99 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: mean it can work both ways. It could work out, 100 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: or it could be like, yeah, you get a cease 101 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: and assist. 102 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Right now working on like all fresh music. You know 103 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: the energy that I'm in right now, how I feel 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: right now. 105 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: So no, the new songs Dope. I watched the video 106 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: It's dope, Dope record Snap. 107 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: For sure, that was one of the ones where I 108 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: was just feeling myself, you know what I'm saying. But 109 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: that's the start of it, unchanged, just explaining like what 110 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I really went through for real. 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well for people who don't know because I saw it. 112 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: I mean, you lost a lot of your personal friends. 113 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: I think you lost twelve friends in a year now 114 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: eight and two eight year eight friends in two years. Yeah, 115 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: so that's gotta be like. 116 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: Three of them was family members, a older cousin, a 117 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: younger cousin, and a cousin around my age. 118 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: It's crazy because we hear that same story coming from 119 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: so many people from your city, right and it's like, 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, ge Herbalt has a song called PTSD and 121 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: he talks a lot about like the mental strength you 122 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: have to have to be from where he's from, where 123 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: you're from, you know what I'm saying. And to deal 124 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: with so much loss and so much hurt, Like do 125 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: you ever feel like you had an opportunity to really mourn. 126 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, behind closed doors when you were by yourself, you 127 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 128 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: But you grow I mean numb to it. You know 129 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: You get used to it. I wouldn't say numb to 131 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: it because you still care, but. 132 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: No, but it's it's used to it. Yeah, you can get. 133 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's something you can get used to if 134 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: you get There's women out here who are getting cheated 135 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: on by the same guy for a decade who I know, 136 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, you're just used to it at 137 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: this point, like you don't even care anymore, Like you like, 138 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: shit happens to you and unfortunately, no matter how traumatic 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: it is, like you're kind of conditioned to deal with it. 140 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 141 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: I always say it could be worse. 142 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Everything could always be worse. So 143 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: do you ever feel like you have ever like consider 144 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: maybe hitting therapy, talking out some of your ship like that. 145 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: I tried that before. Oh you did. Yeah, like talking 146 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: to somebody all the time. 147 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: It work a little bit, It's cool, Yeah, but I'd 148 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: rather just do music for real, like that is your therapy. 149 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. 150 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: I love that this album you're about to release is 151 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: your first album as an independent artist, right, which is 152 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: a big deal. Yeah, this is a new space for 153 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: you to be who you are with already with a 154 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: five times platinum record, and now you're able to kind 155 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: of move freely. You're able to kind of call the 156 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: shot to do what you want to do. How does 157 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: it feel like it? Is it something there's got to 158 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: be like a cool just energy to that. 159 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 160 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel free. I don't know why I 161 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: keep saying that, but that's what it feels like. Feel 162 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: like a waiter is off my shoulder. 163 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: You know. 164 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: I get to see certain things, you know what I'm saying. 165 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: I get to move how I want to. I mean, 166 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: it's just a better positive energy all the way around, 167 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 168 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. You know what I'm excited for. 169 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what would you say your was 170 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: your biggest For people who think you just disappeared, what 171 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: would you attribute that to the reason of that is it? 172 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: Is it the label thing or is it just like 173 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: what was? What was? What's the reason why we haven't 174 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of music from you in the last 175 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: few years. 176 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: It's a label thing. Yeah, it was a label thing, 177 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: bro for sure. 178 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: Is it hard to still stay motivated if you feel 179 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: like you're kind of like, no. 180 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm still living. You know, my two feet still move, 181 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I mean I'm grateful 182 00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: for that. 183 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: Yep. 184 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: And I can work and I can grind, I can 185 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: do what I want to do steal, So I love it. 186 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: I ain't tripping. I always stay motivated. 187 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: Uh your writing process? Are you the type of artist? 188 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: Because when I hear your ship, I feel like you 189 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: lay the melody first and then you go in and 190 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: feeling the lyrics. Is that what you do? No? Pen 191 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: straight like. 192 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: Stroud this out? 193 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: I love it. 194 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: My homies be laughing at me because they'd be like, 195 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: what are you doing in there? He's just mumbling and 196 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm just humming. 197 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: And you know, trying to catch the vibe. 198 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they come back five minutes later it's a 199 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: whole song. They're like, oh man, that's crazy. 200 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: Is that quick five minutes, you're you're a beast. 201 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll be going crazy. 202 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: I mean you just told me I had like two 203 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 3: hundred unreleased songs. 204 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a lot of release music. 205 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: I'm assuming that there's gonna be a whole lot of 206 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: pressure coming from you. H Do you look five years 207 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: is a long time from having a record that kind 208 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: of puts you on the forefront of hip hop for 209 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: a while, right, right? Do you feel like you have 210 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: to get any of those like because fans have a 211 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: short attention span extended I mean nowadays, man, I feel 212 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: like fans are extremely finicky. They're very fair weather fans, 213 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: Like they'll be fucking with you one day until the 214 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: next shit comes out. 215 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: And right, and then that might be better or whatever 216 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: it is right for you. 217 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: You kind of feel like you're a new artist all 218 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: over again, Like you got to kind of remind people 219 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: who you are and what you're in, what you're doing, 220 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: and like, you. 221 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: Know, I feel like that, Yeah, but every day I 222 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: get reminded why it's not that still. 223 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 224 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: When I walk into a room, everybody know what it 225 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: is already, so sight somewhere in between you know what 226 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 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It was just 280 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: like some comments getting left. 281 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just you know, he was 282 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: mad in my comments. 283 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, at the end of the day, 284 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: the media, you're giving. 285 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: Your you were giving your opinion on how you felt 286 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: about certain ship. Yeah, you know, it is what it is. 287 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: People can feel it. I mean, I just had STG 288 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: walk out of an interview because I asked him about label. 289 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: So I saw that, bro. 290 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah you haven't walked out yet. 291 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: No, No, you cool. 292 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: You. I appreciate it. 293 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: You asked me weird. 294 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: Uh man, talk to me about just Chicago, bro, because 295 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: obviously you know there's been so much I mean, shit, man, 296 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: Derek has a headline and arena tour right now. I 297 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: was just there, oh in Chicago. 298 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I just came from. 299 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: Now I opened up. The first day was were you 300 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: there when the shooting had happened? 301 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: And that was the day after the day You weren't. 302 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: At that show? 303 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: No, I wasn't there. Okay, the crew was there though, 304 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: some of the guys was there. Well, I went there, but. 305 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: The first day was cool. 306 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it was no shooting though. I think 307 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: that's cap though. 308 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just know that there was this video. 309 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: I know, I know some folks was fighting and somebody 310 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: might have got cut or stabbed or something. 311 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it was no shooting. 312 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 3: I just saw the video everyone running and then everyone 313 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: just grabbing merch. Yeah. 314 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see it was a lot of that going 315 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: on because the show ended early. Yeah, so I think 316 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: the fans was upset for real or something was was 317 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: Kodak on that show? 318 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: I don't know who was there? Who was there that day? 319 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: I feel like kok on that you toured with Kodak? Right, 320 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: What was that like. 321 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: With Kodak? Was fun? 322 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: He seems like a fun Hay? 323 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was cool. He was real cool. 324 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. He seems like a a guy who I'd like 325 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: to have a beer with. That's it though, That's it. 326 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: None else. I don't know what else he was doing. 327 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: Meant just take the beer man. 328 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: I was around Kodak when we was doing shows, you 329 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He hopped on my tour bus 330 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: a few times. On the record, I had the little 331 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: portable studio with me set up. Yeah, so I recorded 332 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: a song fro him. 333 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: What draft? Did draft? Like? The scarlet? A little scarlet like. 334 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: I had to Apollo? 335 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 336 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hit the Apollo arrow. 337 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 338 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: We just vabbed the whole time. It was like forty 339 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: something shows. 340 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: As I say, like from when you kind of popped 341 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: initially that now, how do you feel about like kind 342 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: of the state of Chicago hip hop? 343 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. A lot of females is turning up 344 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: in our city right now. But it's cool right now. 345 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: I had a young lady from Chicago here. Who was it? 346 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: We just had somebody here from Chicago. 347 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: That's a girl who Melo? Now? 348 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: Who the fuck was just Fendy? Yeah, she's great. Yeah, 349 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: she's a she's she's super cool. That's who's Mellow Mellow Racks. 350 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: Is she from? 351 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: Uh No, not Mellow Racks, Mellow Bucks? 352 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because there's Mellow Racks. 353 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: So I think Melo Racks from like Miami. 354 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because she's on Y M C n B. 355 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: I think her. Are you doing any writing or have 356 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: you done any been doing any writing for any. 357 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: Other artists as recently? 358 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: No? Is that ever like a bag you try to 359 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: get into? 360 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't tapped in, you know, 361 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: once or twice maybe, you know, I don't. Gave a 362 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: few artists a few records. I gave Y g a 363 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: record for one of his past albums. Uh. I gave 364 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: a few other people some records. I can't really, you know, 365 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: say nothing. 366 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: I can't say the White g One you could say, yeah. 367 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was just you know, it was cool. 368 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: He hit me one time like, yo, you a song 369 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: with one of my producers. I want it straight like that, like, yo, 370 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: I want it. I don't want to change nothing on 371 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: it or nothing. I just want to throw my verse 372 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: on it. 373 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: Keep it moving. 374 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: And it's on the album Boom That's fire, and I'm like, 375 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm with it. 376 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: That's dope. Is it hard for you to find like 377 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: people who are willing to work with you now that 378 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: you're independent on the production side, that are just willing 379 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: to kind of like not work with you. But like, 380 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: like we were talking a little bit off the air, 381 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: like the biggest part about being independent is the headache 382 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: of like clear and shit. Yeah, yeah, you know what 383 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's like it's almost like they might 384 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: still look at you like you got that RCA budget 385 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: behind Yeah. 386 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: See, that's what I was saying, Like I don't think 387 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm somewhere in between, because people still look at me 388 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: like that. 389 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, They like, yeah, we need 390 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand. 391 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: You know, this ain't RCA on my own. 392 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: It's out of the pocket, you know what I'm saying. 393 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: They like, you know that's what it is. 394 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: That's crazy. I feel like they're because I always hear 395 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: artists have certain rates, like even if you buy a 396 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: feature from somebody like the Homies would be like, hey, 397 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm in I'm in Phoenix home town. Like I tell people, 398 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: if they're independent, this is the price, but if they're major, 399 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: this is the price. There's like the indie and the 400 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: major price. I feel like for beats, that should be 401 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 3: the same shit, right it should? Yeah, but or like 402 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: take a cut, take a nice cut, you know, like 403 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: let's collaborated. 404 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: And then producers still won a couple points and all 405 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: that extra. So it's like, I don't know, man. 406 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: You gotta get artificial intelligence to make you some bet. 407 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 408 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: I think AI can make beats. Isn't that happening? 409 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: They can? 410 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: It's not good. I heard one. I think I heard 411 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: of fake Timbaland beat that wasn't terrible. 412 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: You don't think you don't think we're living in a 413 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: matrix bro. 414 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: I've really started to think about it more recently with 415 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: some of the shit that's been happening, because I always 416 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 3: would be like, like, when you do you see like 417 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: the birds frozen in the air. There's like hundreds of 418 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: videos of just birds that just stopped flying and they're 419 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: just steal in the air. 420 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: And they're not flapping the wings and now they're. 421 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: Just they're just in the they're just paused. 422 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: Bro, showing me the footage to hold on, bro, let 423 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: me show you, Bro. I want to see the footage 424 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: of that. 425 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: This ship is crazy. This ship is crazy. Hold on, 426 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: you got the birds? 427 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 2: Is that real? Though? Like? 428 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: God, hold on, look, birds got on the water? Yeah, 429 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: we got more water. We grab a water over there. 430 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: Let me see. Appreciate your brother. 431 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: The ship it looks like a flash. 432 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Bird man, get the fuck out of him. 433 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: There strings doing nothing is the only one who saw it. 434 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: Hell, this ship is the fuck out of here is another. 435 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: One fucking birds floating in the air, man, get the 436 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 4: fuck out of here. 437 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: That shit looks real. 438 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: People saying that it's dimensional glitches. 439 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 440 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. 441 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: I do some research. I don't know. 442 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: Well, then when you see the like did you see 443 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: the government official like saying that they're like aliens are real? 444 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've seen that, So that it made me 445 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: even really be like you're seeing that, Like, what's really 446 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: going on right now? 447 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: You know? 448 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: I'll be on some other ship though. I already already 449 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: be thinking of some other shit going on. 450 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: What do you think is going on? 451 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 452 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: I just feel like she ain't the only ones walking 453 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: around this motherfucker like how we think we is. 454 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: I think that's the facts for sure. 455 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 456 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: I think they're preparing us because. 457 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you Christian, if a lot of people 458 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: walk around say they Christian, I mean they mentioned a 459 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: lot of different creatures inside of that book we read, 460 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: so she I mean, what did they wipe out the 461 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: face of the earth. I don't know. 462 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: You know, so you think it might be some demon 463 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: shit going. 464 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: On, No, some like entities you know, you know they 465 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: speak about giants all type of shit, yeah, for sure, 466 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: type of. 467 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: Non human beings. 468 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and shit that you'd be like, oh, this is like, 469 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: you know, some cool like fairy tale shit, you know, like. 470 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well some of that ship might be for real, 471 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, I stayed the fuck out of 472 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: the way to give my money. 473 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: If you look at some of the old school hieroglyphics 474 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: from like Egypt and ship, some of the ship in 475 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: those hieroglyphics is like, bro, they got to see this shit. 476 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: So I'm like, you know what I'm saying, like there 477 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: had to be some shit going on that like we 478 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: were weren't privy too, because motherfuckers wasn't. 479 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna get that to aliens though. I 480 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: ain't gonna get that to aliens though. 481 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: That right there, Well, what's in the hieroglyphics, like the 482 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: pictures of like like alien looking motherfuckers that were like carved. 483 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: Into like me. 484 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I just feel like that was a different type of being. 485 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: It might be an alien to you because you don't 486 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: understand it, but. 487 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: I guess aliens to us, right, non human? Yeah, I 488 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: mean it's kind of the definition. 489 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, so you're. 490 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: Right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. 491 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: I was going to go into some other other shit. 492 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: You're good, you got it, but they got like, you know, 493 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: fucking all this UFO. Like did you see what happened 494 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: in Las Vegas? There was this family in Las Vegas 495 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: that called the police because they said there was like 496 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: three like ten foot things in their backyard creatures right right, 497 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: and with that, and so the family, uh cia came, 498 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: the police came. The police saw the fucking thing. So 499 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: there's the cops bodycam footage being like, I just saw 500 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: that shit take off from your backyard, Like, am I crazy? 501 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: Am I not the only people who saw this? But 502 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 3: like some jeepus creepysh like some like some like a 503 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 3: like once the police got there, some like whatever craft 504 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: popped out of these people's backyard. So the cops were 505 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: like all talking about it, like we're not crazy, we 506 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: just saw that, right, And then for like the next month, 507 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: the uh there was black trucks that were just lying 508 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: up on their street for like an Then the family 509 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: was documenting it like on TikTok and shit. They're like, look, 510 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: there's more big SUVs outside of our house that have 511 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: been here all week. 512 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: Some done got out of Area fifty one. 513 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: Which is in Vegas. Well it's in Nevada. I used 514 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: to live there, so Area fifty one was wild. You 515 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: could drive up to like a certain point and. 516 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: Then there's some shit over there. 517 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh for sure they have. They told me so. I 518 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: lived in Vegas for a few years. And you know 519 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: who Molly mall is bald producer, used to be on 520 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop. He's made a lot of big beats. Yeah, 521 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: I think so he had a security guard, and the 522 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: security guard was a former like military decorated guy, right 523 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: like top knocked security guy. He was explaining to us 524 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: when he worked, because he said he worked at Area 525 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: fifty one as a contractor, and he said that they 526 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: had like other soldiers behind him who had higher clearance 527 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: than them, and they like, let's say, they brought him 528 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: into a room and they're like, hey, you gotta work 529 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: on this wall. But they were being held like I 530 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: guard the whole time, so they wouldn't walk anywhere else 531 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: in the area, you know what I'm saying. And he 532 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: said that while he was there, he saw like a 533 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: medal or like some sort of matter. No matter what 534 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: you did to it, if you if you blew it up, 535 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: if you shot it, if you bent it, if you 536 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: tore it apart, it always came back together to the same. 537 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: Uh form, some transforming ship. 538 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who poo Beer is, the writer poo Bear. 539 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: He wrote all justin Bieber Shit. Me and poo Bear 540 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: was just like we were just listening to this dude 541 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: one night at Molly Mall's crib, high as fun. 542 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? I can believe it? 543 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: Though, shot my brother poo bear. 544 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Man, I think I think ship like that exists. 545 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: Man, I just think, you know, they just let us do. 546 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: That's why I think they're easing us into some ship, 547 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 3: because they got to kind of ease us in now. 548 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: It's like they just can't just out of nowhere, like yeah, 549 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: we got to stop the interview real quick to tell 550 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: you about our folks at my bookie. Man, Look my bookie. 551 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: NFL season is approaching, and you know what they just 552 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: added that I love is that early cash out. 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It's time to just get 597 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: a world of me, you know, build on my fans. 598 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: And it's important too because this is your first independent album. 599 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I'm a stand out on my 600 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: own for real exactly. I like that. 601 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: That's where my mom comes from. 602 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 3: When is the project coming? You gotta release itay yet. 603 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: Not an exact day, Give me a couple of weeks. 604 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be here. 605 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: It's coming. 606 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: Tune a real song. 607 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: How often do you plan on just dropping now that 608 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 3: you're like, you know, you ain't got the red tape, 609 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: the yellow tape around you from the label. 610 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean I say every two months, it's not bad. Yeah, 611 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: I say every two months, I mean a. 612 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: Song or a project project. 613 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: But I mean I'm gonna ever get them singles and 614 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: I always feed them. 615 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: Every too much dropping the project. I like that. Why 616 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: be independent if you ain't gonna do it the right way? Right? Yo? 617 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: It's crazy when you were at What's the Weirdest? Did 618 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: like because you always hear like when people are on 619 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: major labels, they get certain features that try to get 620 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: pushed onto them. They'll be like, hey, look we want 621 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: to get you in with this person, or hey, this 622 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: song is just it just just put a verse on 623 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: it and it's a hit. Did they try to do 624 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: that with you over there? They didn't. 625 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: Most of my features came from me, so. 626 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: They never were like, hey try this nah nah. 627 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: Most of my well, all of my features came from me. 628 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: Just like reaching out to people. 629 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: People who you fucked with. 630 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Gotti meet derk Alum. It's just like, yo, 631 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: hop on this for me. 632 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a. 633 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: You know who Bob is. So back in the day, 634 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: like Atlantic Records had a hard time popping Bob off, 635 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: which was on their damn not him because he's extremely talented. 636 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: So at the time, Bruno Mars was shopping around all 637 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: these hooks because no one knew who he was. He 638 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: was just a writer. And uh, what was that first 639 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: Bob song? Was it Beautiful Girls? So that song go 640 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: beautiful Girl? What's it called nothing on You? Nothing on You? 641 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 642 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, called nothing on You? So Atlantic was just trying 643 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: to get somebody to take the song. Loupe Fiasco cut 644 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: on it and then didn't like it, so it should 645 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: have been loop a song he passed on it. 646 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: Why did he do that? I don't know. 647 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: Igo Goat, by. 648 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: The way, tweaked one. 649 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: Of the greatest rappers of all time for talking about 650 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: the straight lyricism. Uh, and then Bob ended up with it. 651 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, but yeah, I usually be hot 652 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: when I was young. 653 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: For sure. What about the OG's in Chicago tapping in 654 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: with you? Like got a loopey type of dude or yeah, 655 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: obviously yay's the Goat you know? 656 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: Uh Yay? I mean I tapped in with ya. 657 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: Camp definitely tapped in with a lot of the other. 658 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: Local legends, crucial conflict individuals. 659 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: Like that L E. P Bumpy shot the bump Jay. 660 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah you about fucking uh? Do or Die? 661 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: I ain't chopped it up. 662 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: Would you listen to growing up? Yeah? 663 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still I still listen to do it died 664 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: to this day, I might be cleaning up the house. 665 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: Crucial Conflict slept on motherfucking groups ever facts the first 666 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: Crucial Conflict Awn, which you probably weren't alive for. It's 667 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: called the Final Tick. 668 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: Right when they come out what you I think that. 669 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: Was ninety five or six, yet it might have been 670 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: ninety six. They had a song called Hey show Down. 671 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah I was probably I was like ten. You weren't 672 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: born yet, though, but yeah, do or Die? Pope pimpin man, 673 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: what are we talking about? Have you, you know, Twists 674 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: out there doing gun classes. Yeah, he's like teaching people 675 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: like how to responsibly own weapons in Chicago to protect themselves, 676 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: so to take people and they do classes like how 677 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: to shoot, how to look, how to get your license. 678 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: Twist. Actually, my my og went to school with Twister. 679 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: That was oh wow. The shout out to Twister man. 680 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: She says he used to be in the back of 681 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: the bus rapping fastest. Yeah, fastest. Hell, they used to 682 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: be telling me nobody want to hear that ship all day. 683 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: Twist bro, slow that ship. 684 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: Down, ship the whole career later. 685 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: One of them. All right. 686 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: Well look man, a new project on the way. 687 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Unchained, Unchained. 688 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: Congrats on your independence. Uh we just also dropped the freestyles. 689 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: You go check that out separate YouTube video. Yeah, for sure, 690 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: appreciate you pulling up man, and I look forward to 691 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: to hearing the album I. 692 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Love Brother Fire. 693 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: Hey, what up, man? You just watched another episode of 694 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: the Blue Bay Cap podcast brought to you by Hard Dean. Baby. 695 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: Shout out to the family at Hard Dean. Don't forget 696 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: make sure if you're in Las Vegas, you get into 697 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: that taxi as soon as you land to get into 698 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: that uber, say take me to Hardean. All right, they 699 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: gonna take get you. 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