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I haven't seen Rob yet because I'm sure 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: we want to know he went, where everything, where he is, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: what he has. Absolutely, yeah, we saw that. Uh uh yeah, 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: we saw all of the all the updates on that. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: So we'll continue to do a War's Walda version for 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: Rob Parker. A lot to get into today. So as always, 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: we appreciate your listening. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: That is the number to use as you feel free 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: to call throughout the show. Also, you can check out 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: Martin Weiss on socials and kdub live for myself and 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: Odd couple fs are on the way. I from Salam 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: gonna join us here at the bottom of the hour, 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: about another twenty five twenty eight minutes or so. Talk 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: to him about some of the NFL stories out there 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: or whatever. 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: He can always talk about everything. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: And then coming up next hour we'll have Adam Kaplan 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: in about an hour and a half, looking forward to 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: his thoughts on some NFL storylines as well. Some people 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: getting paid out there, Martin, some people mad they're not 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: getting paid, so of course conversations to be had as well. 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: So let's welcome in the Odd couple crew as always, 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: couldn't do the show without them. We got Rob g 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: producer extraordinaire. He's in the building feeling good. He's got 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: his up dosage of the week, Govi Manduro, Olympics, Olympics, 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: whatever he's on right now, and you know he's feeling 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: himself because he's got on James Dean shirts rolling up 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: cigarettes on the side of those things. 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: It came like this, well, you know, I just you 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: were bragging about your app prowles today. Maybe you should 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: be getting an app that is more salad friendly. 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 6: If they've giving out salad for free. 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: Sure, I'm just saying I'm not even trying to put 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 5: anybody out there but you. So I'm not gonna put 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: the business you were eating. 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 6: I had all McDonald's picey chicken sandwich. 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Martin, you have mentioned. You know, 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're still there, but you were 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: trying to lose something. You were eating right, doing the 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: right thing. Sure, he has the luxury of doing whatever 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: he wants now because he's just jabbing himself once a 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: week so he can do whatever. So unlike me, I'm 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: like you, we got to try to figure this thing out. 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: He's just jabbing, so he has that luxury there. So 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: and there's the problem. 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: Was he's not like Barry Bonds where he had a 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame career before. No, that's a lot of roderie. 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: I do think you don't. I've said it to you 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: personally and over there. I don't think you really need 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: did the jab Like? I think you're fine, dude. 63 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 6: But if we qualify for are we not gonna get it? 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 7: Yeah? 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 6: It's like painful price. 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: For something that Yeah, because you are selling sob stories, 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, and then I gotta do this, and then 68 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: I gotta do that, and how I just had a baby, and. 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 6: Unlike y'all, I do run from the grind. 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: That is exactly you know what. Acceptance is the first step, 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: that's what you know what? And he is definitely admit 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: And I appreciate the honesty. Alex on the boards over 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: there Monday with sons out, buns out, he's back now, 74 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: feeling good. I don't know you look at you? Yeah, 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: well wow, Yeah, putting in work. That's all we got 76 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: to say about that. Putting in work. And Steve the 77 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Seger is on the up deck desk, gonna get us 78 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: set on what's trendy before we jump right in. Man, 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: you I'm just saying, you looked mighty tan and bronze. 80 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: You been out where you've been? 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: I did. I was in Puerto Rico something, I was 82 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: Dominican Republic. I had a guess I was near it. 83 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: Oh close. We had a good time. Yeah that's yeah, 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: you should did. All right, let's move are. 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: The best part about it was nobody has to apologize 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: to anybody. 87 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: No one got arrested. 88 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: Everybody came back ten fingers and toes and no one 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: made any super incredible life changing decisions where you came 90 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: back like. 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: Why would do that? 92 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: That was very like thirty three plus good type of 93 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: good people be backing crazy to it. If twenty three plus, 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: it's like that's more than expected. That's if how many 95 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: of y'all came went ten did not? Did ten of 96 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: y'all come back? 97 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: Or nine? 98 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: That's how it is with twenty three plus. All right, 99 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: a lot to get to. Let's jump this thing off. 100 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: I want to started off with Martin. Yesterday. We had 101 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: a conversation about the top ten quarterbacks. You know, they 102 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: had that list that they put out one hundred best 103 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: players in the NFL, and then then they go position 104 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: by position and they had the top ten at each position, 105 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: and of course they start with the We had the 106 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: quarterback conversation, So Mahomes is number one, which was to 107 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: let me say, ask you, at least to me, that 108 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: was to be expected. 109 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 4: Maybe to you it wasn't. 110 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 5: No, it's I mean, I know that he lost the 111 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 5: Super Bowl last year, but the King stays the King 112 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 5: for a little while longer than that, so. 113 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: We were on the same page. 114 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: That was my point, was he earned that rare Fight 115 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: era where when Tiger became less of Tiger, he was 116 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: still Tiger Wood, so you still took him over the field. 117 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: When Brady finally started getting older, maybe y Arn wasn't good, 118 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: you still said, no, I'm taking Tom Brady and Lebron 119 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: for the most part, up until maybe three four years ago, 120 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: you still say, nah, I still take. 121 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: Lebron Serena Williams. Same thing. 122 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: They earned that rare fight air where you say, now 123 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: until they're beating, I'm rolling with that guy. And Patrick Mahomes. 124 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: Isn't that the other guy who kind of was interesting 125 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: on that list because their top four or five you 126 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: kind of for at least you knew it was Burrow. 127 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: I'm not in any order right now, but Burrow was Allen, 128 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: and it was Lamar Jackson. And then the fifth was 129 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: interesting Jayden Daniels, because you're like, oh, okay, rookie year 130 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: was spectacular, but rookie, some of these other guys got 131 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: some longevity in the game. And at nine was where 132 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: it got interesting because it was that's where you found 133 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: the reigning Super Bowl champion quarterback Jalen Hurts at number nine. 134 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: And then of course you have Nick Sirianni come out 135 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna paraphrase f him basically say, Hey, 136 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: it's a joke that he's here at that that lowest, 137 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: the joke kind of how he's perceived in his league. 138 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: He's done enough, is a joke that people kind of 139 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: criticize what we ask of him for this team. They 140 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: use that against him. So when you have that polling, 141 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: you have that Nick Airianni is sticking up for his guy. 142 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: Where do you come out on Jalen Hurts as we 143 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: sit here, Uh, you know, a couple of months away 144 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: from this upcoming season. 145 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's the nuanced conversation. And that's why 146 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: I think Nick Gianni has no chance of being able 147 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: to do it. And I get you paraphrase what he 148 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: did say, because you can't say what he actually said 149 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: over the radio, you know, but you know the idea 150 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: that Nick Gianni would swear about that shock, that's Nick's 151 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 5: that's Nick being now that you've won, good. 152 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: Luck, you know, that's gonna do. That's all we'll see 153 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: going forward. 154 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: But the thing is like, if I'm doing an expansion 155 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: drag and I has a number one overall pick, I'm 156 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: picking a lot of players before I get to Jalen Hurts. 157 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 5: I'm picking a lot of quarterbacks before I get to 158 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts. However, that does not mean when Nick Sirianni 159 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 5: is saying in this moment is un true. What they 160 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: ask him to do, he executes at an incredibly high level. 161 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: I you know, and the Toush push, that's a real thing. 162 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: I can't stand it personally. I don't think it's football. 163 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: But I clearly am on the losing end of this battle. 164 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: And you know why, because the team that keeps running 165 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: it wins the super Bowl. And you know what, we'll 166 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: just have him doing it. You know, I just wait 167 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: for the worst pacingario and I'll just point to te level. 168 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: I told you so. 169 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: But until then, I have to entertain this conversation because 170 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: it is a web. 171 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 4: It ain't going nowhere. 172 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: It's not going anywhere despite all the votes to the 173 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: contrary or for a positive. So but if you just 174 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: evaluate just at the quote unquote playing of the quarterback position, 175 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: and it's not a knock to Jalen Hurts his ability 176 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 5: or you know, it's just there are guys that are 177 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: just flatly better than him at the things that I 178 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 5: think you ask a quarterback to do on a consistent basis. Now, 179 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 5: I think he makes up for some of those things 180 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: in like leadership and being steady. 181 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: I think the fact that Nick Sirianni. 182 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 5: Has so much success as a coach that kind of 183 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 5: goes off the hinges at times because Jalen Hurts is 184 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 5: this quarterback, right. I think that you went when you 185 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: got your wide receiver reading self help books and your 186 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: coach doing the doing fly eagles slides to the fans, 187 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 5: Somebody's got to be the adult in the room. And 188 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: I think Jalen Hurts does that and does the great 189 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: job for that organization. 190 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: So ninth best to me. 191 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: If I'm Nick Sirianni, I'm saying, look, you know what, 192 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: he was first best at the end of the year, 193 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 5: and that's where we're gonna go with that. Right, I 194 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: wouldn't be going in the dressed and all of this 195 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: because it's like who at some point you protest too 196 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 5: much because you know what we're saying is true. Go 197 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: back to them when he throws over there, Look at 198 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: Jalen hurts numbers. When he throws over thirty times, they 199 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: two and two. They don't win. You know what, I'm 200 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 5: saying they go back to last year when they scale 201 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: him back and they run the ball more, they win 202 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: more consistently, and that, you know, is it on knock 203 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: to Jalen Hurts. Whatever, If you want to call it 204 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: that or not, that's just what it is. But the 205 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 5: fact of the matter is two summers ago we were 206 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: talking about nobody wants to pay a running back that 207 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: next summer. Say Kwan Barkley went insane through the Eagles 208 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 5: offense at ward of a Super Bowl. 209 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: And so if you're telling me that what is it? 210 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: You have the best everything, I mean, that's how you 211 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: would feel. 212 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure if you ask some best offensive line, best 213 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: defensive line, best running back, and in his mind best quarterback, 214 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: clearly he's gonna feel that way. But I get that 215 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: a couple So you mentioned a couple of things. Let 216 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: me break it down like this. I said this yesterday, 217 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. If we're gonna be equal, then he does 218 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: deserve a bit more praise or less disrespect. Here's what 219 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: I mean. If you ask who's played the best quarterbacking, 220 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: who's been quarterbacking the best, who's been owning the position, 221 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: it has not been Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes has been 222 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: the best of a couple of things. Patrick Mahomes has 223 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: been the best at third down. He's had the best 224 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: QBR with that, and he also had the best when 225 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: it came percentage. Think it's fifty three percent completion percentage 226 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: on our first downs. On third down, he makes those passes. 227 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: So ultimately, what he's saying is when we need it done, 228 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: he gets it done. When we need a win, he 229 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: gets a win. And to the tune of despite what 230 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: Rob Parker will say fifteen and two, to the tune 231 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: of getting back to the super Bowl win, everyone want 232 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: to say, Man, something's off. They're not winning at a 233 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: hot clip or blowing people out. He doesn't look great. 234 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: He just gets to the super Bowl. So if we're 235 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: putting all of that on him as far as winning, 236 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: and that's why I believe he's still number one. You 237 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: believe it even though Lamar Jackson's played incredibly better football, 238 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 3: Josh Allen's played better football, Joe Burrows played better football 239 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: over the last couple of seasons. You just have that 240 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: faith in him. Then to me, we also have to 241 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: put it on Jalen Hurts as well. I've been critical 242 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: of him. He's not the guy necessarily you think you'd 243 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: want an a duel or a shootout. However, if what 244 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: we ultimately great quarterbacks by his wins, the brother gets 245 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: wins to the two of six and three in the playoffs. 246 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: You saw what he'd done in the super Bowls. Multiple 247 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: super Bowls he won, one lost, one outplayed Mahomes, and 248 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: the one he lost just outperformed him again in the 249 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: one that he won. And he's played very well twenty touchdowns, 250 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: three interceptions in the playoff runs for him. He continues 251 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: to be dynamic at running the football. The best short 252 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: yard is runner in football. Three seasons of ten touchdowns 253 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: and more is shut. 254 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: I can't stand that you can say that and Nippy 255 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 5: a fact because of this touch push foolishness. 256 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: But here's a student I feel. I feel terrible for 257 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: every running quarterback before you. 258 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. He's the one doing it. Everybody's got 259 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: a chance. Thirty one other teams. Only one other team 260 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: is semi proficient at it, in the Bills, and that 261 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: ended up costing them in the postseason trying to do 262 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: it a couple of times. 263 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: So he does that. 264 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned another thing leadership. When he puts on them, 265 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: Dad Khakis, you know what time it is. He's about business. 266 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: Even when they have disgrunt, you know, just runner receivers 267 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: or they' getting into it. Him and AJ Brown, they 268 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: find a worry way to work through it. He always 269 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: says the right thing. And that's a part of that position, 270 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: as you know, coming up there, despite what just happened 271 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: in the locker room, when I come out there answering questions, 272 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 3: boom ba boom, diffusing things, putting out fires. So we 273 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: do have to put more respect on his name now 274 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: when it comes down to rankings. Look, people are also 275 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: gonna look at talent. I believe if you just watched them, 276 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: you fail from ours. You knew football and you watch it, 277 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: you would say, oh that guy Jaydon Dan was more talented, 278 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: Joe Borrows more talented, Patrick Holmes, Lamar Jackson. And I 279 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: think that's where the issue comes with him. But if 280 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: it comes, if we're gonna say ultimately, Terry Bradshaw is 281 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: highly respected and he heralded because he has four Super 282 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: Bowl rings because all he did to do it was 283 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: win so much. He wasn't the best arm talent, He 284 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: wasn't the guy when you think of just passing, but 285 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: he won. He was perfect for that team, for the 286 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: Steelers of the seventies. So that's and that is what 287 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: Jayalen hurts. He's perfect for this team that wants to 288 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: beat you up, run the ball, stop the run, and 289 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: find ways to win games. 290 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: He's perfect for this team. 291 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: My last point, Martin, you look at a guy like 292 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Well, there's been iterations of him. He was 293 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: dinking dunk dincon dunk managed the game. Then he became 294 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: I can air this thing out when you need you 295 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: for years, and to me, Jalen hurts right now, maybe 296 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: he can start airing it out when he needs to, 297 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: But right now, this is what I am. This is 298 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: what I need to be, to the tune of way 299 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: more wins than the guys in the posty than y'all 300 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: keep putting ahead of me, except for Patrick Mahomes. 301 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 5: But so also, but part of the reason why there's 302 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: way more wins in the postseason is because he doesn't 303 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 5: have to play Patrick Mahomes, nor Lamar Jackson nor Josh Allen. 304 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: Part of the reason why Patrick Mahomes is still number 305 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: one on this list is because even though they had 306 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 5: better regular seasons, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, you 307 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: name it. Every time they stepped into the kingdom, the 308 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: king came out on top and the King's king. 309 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 4: Now here's the thing. 310 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 5: I'm willing to walk to this, to walk to this, 311 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 5: Let's see if we can meet in the middle. Here 312 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 5: I have Mahomes still is the number one guy, but 313 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 5: I am opening up to the top four or five 314 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 5: to now it is now a the race is not 315 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: She is not such a prohibitive favorite that it is 316 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 5: like we are talking about him and everybody else. Like 317 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: when Lebron was at the top of his game, we 318 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 5: were talking about Lebron and the rest of the league. 319 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: When Jordan was at the top visit game, we were 320 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: talking about Jordan and the rest of the league. And 321 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: we saw guys get MVP of trophies. We saw guys 322 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 5: get you know, multiple MVP trophies, and while still acknowledging 323 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 5: the fact that Jordan or Lebron was the best player, 324 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: you know, year in year out. 325 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: That's what this is to me, That's what this is. 326 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: What you don't think so you know what I'm saying. 327 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: No, you're right, but I'm saying that's crazy that Mike 328 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: was sitting there, Mike and and we were like, you 329 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: know what, boy, that David Robinson, that Carl Malone that 330 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: and Mike's. 331 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: In the like and you know what, and if Mahomes 332 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 5: runs off two of the next three Super Bowls and 333 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: it's you know, that's comparable with might sit back and look, 334 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: you know what, that was really dumb that conversation we 335 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: had on man July fifteenth. 336 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: You're really looking for something to talk about. Huh. 337 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: The thing I'll go to about the NFC guys that 338 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 5: are ahead of him, because all that's true for the AFC. 339 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: If you wanted to just have blanket the best four 340 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,239 Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the AFC, make that statement, then I would. 341 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: Be like, all right, cool, I get you. But I'll 342 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: tell you what the. 343 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 5: Issue with the NFC quarterbacks because to me, the top 344 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: four unassailably are in the AFC. The issue with the 345 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: NFC quarterbacks and why they're ahead of Jalen Hurts. 346 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: We'll do that next. 347 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: We'll break that down. Also, don't forget we got it 348 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: from coming up a little bit. It is the odd 349 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: couple Martin for Rob kelvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday, 350 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 351 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 352 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 353 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 354 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 355 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 356 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 8: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 357 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 8: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk, featuring the 358 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 8: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 359 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 8: in analytics or the I tast We've got all the 360 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 8: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, So do yourself 361 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 8: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 362 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 8: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 363 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to follow you the j Ali Aleix. Well, 364 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: uh ah see. Now I'm sitting next to Martin. Martin 365 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: over here playing guitars. Now he know everything. They got 366 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: a guitar riff in it. I mean to be fair, 367 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: I've known this for twenty years. No, don't let my 368 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: joke ride okay out here. 369 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: What I'm about to tell you, though, is these guys 370 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: just they they now go across the country playing TikTok concerts. 371 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: So like it's new to a lot of people that 372 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: first of all, that is the most the wildest thing 373 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: about TikTok and songs that were ten years fifteen, and 374 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: I could get like a seventies because that's all entirely 375 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: different time ago. 376 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: But they'll just randomly put Miguel's sure Thing. They was 377 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: like what that long go? 378 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: What is that? 379 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 7: Now? 380 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: All the kids like, yo, you heard this sure thing 381 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: like that? I was like knee deep and music radio 382 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: playing that. It's the odd couple. Kelvin Washington Martin Wis, 383 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: who was in for Rob. Rob's getting ready to enjoy 384 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: the MLB All Star Game happening here in just a 385 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: little bit. By the way, aky knees, stiff back joints 386 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: not cooperating. Some days, your body's just like nope on 387 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: those days. Luckily they're as the league with just one 388 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: pier of the league provides up to twelve hours of 389 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: paying release, so you can keep moving. 390 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: Use as directed. 391 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: Coming up here in about five minutes or so, ephrom Salam, 392 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: former NFL offensive lineman, Fox Sports radio weekend host, is 393 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: going to join us. 394 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: We'll talk some football. 395 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: Actually, we can even ask him a little bit of 396 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: what we're talking about here with him in just a bit. 397 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: And but Martin get back to you had a point 398 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: you were making about the NFC quarterbacks in comparison to 399 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: the number ninth rank quarterback in Jaln Hurts. 400 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 5: So I'm looking at this last on this list is 401 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: just the first NFC quarterback on the list. Right as 402 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 5: I'm going down at double checking it's the first NFC 403 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 5: quarterback on the list is Jaden Daniels at five. 404 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: Then you go. 405 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 5: Stafford at six, Justin Herbert at seven, Jared Goff at eight, 406 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: and Jalen Hurts at nine, ten Baker Mayfield to round 407 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: it out. Now, the biggest quibble I would have here 408 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 5: is with Justin Herbert being above. But when you look 409 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 5: at those guys, the Stafford Herbert, and especially Stafford and Herbert, 410 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 5: I should say, and Daniels to a lower extent, but 411 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: Stafford Herbert for sure, those are the guys that when 412 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 5: when scouts and players, i mean other coaches talk about them, 413 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 5: they gush about their processing, their arm strength, they can 414 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 5: they're making every throw there, you know what I'm saying. 415 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: It's about the way that they're playing, right. 416 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels another one as a guy who's not quite 417 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 5: with the making every throw in the same way, but 418 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: dynamic weapon the way Cliff Kingsbury had him operating dual threat? 419 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: Is he the best dual threat since Michaelvitt. 420 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: Type, right, So you see that and then you watch 421 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 5: what Jalen Hurts is doing and like the touch push 422 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 5: is not sexy like although with in terms of football sexy, 423 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 5: those three got it, you know what I'm saying. 424 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: So that's the thing it gets to me. 425 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: And when Jared Goff, I would have if you want 426 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 5: it to have Jalen Hurts above Jared Goff, I wouldn't 427 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: agree with you, but I'm not gonna have the biggest 428 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 5: argument with you. So I think when you go through 429 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 5: the first the AFC joints, you know, when you go 430 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 5: through the AFC parts of it, I see these are 431 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: the best quarterbacks in the game. And you're now to 432 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 5: me juggling who's the top one out of Lamar, Josh 433 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 5: and Patrick yep. And then I think Joe is right 434 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 5: there if you really want to hold him for the 435 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 5: how bad the defense and all that play last year. 436 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 5: But I think Joe Burrow was a top shoven quarterback 437 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 5: just off of if I wanted to drip. 438 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: I was starting at too far down there. 439 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm just saying, if I'm just being as 440 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 5: lowest I could possibly go lost, I would go with 441 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts. It's probably right around ten. So I think 442 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: this is about right. I think it would any more 443 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: than anything. It goes down to a game. What Sirianni 444 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 5: was saying is how he's talked about the respect of 445 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 5: his name. But the challenge is, again, you have a 446 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: quarterback renaissance right now where you have they're in the area. 447 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: It was kind of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, the rest 448 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 5: of y'all, And there was a good rest of y'all. 449 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: You've got to be Philip Rivers, whether it been obviously 450 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers kind of peeks in there at some point. 451 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: But then you have Ben Roethlisberger saw him, the really 452 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 5: nice Drew Brees. You have some really good guys. 453 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: But this young crop again, as you mentioned, when you 454 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: just look at the arm talent, you're like, but Justin 455 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: Herbert is gonna have to start showing me something. He's 456 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: had a bit more regular season success than the person 457 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 3: on the name, but the way people gush about him, 458 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Trevor Lawrence. Oh, you just don't understand 459 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: this arm is so big. He was made to be 460 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: a quarterback. Look out big six five. Oh and I 461 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: hear him and when he makes some throws, do we 462 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: all go, okay, what are your right handed? 463 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 7: Damn? 464 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: Marino kind of has that appeal to it. But that's 465 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: what you start to kind of go, all right now, 466 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna start to need some of these wins 467 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: to add up, because what will happen Martin is will 468 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: be year eight, nine ten of him with a playoff 469 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: win or two, and you'll be like, all right now, 470 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: like Okay, I get it, but Jalen Hurts is doing 471 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: what you asked the quarterback position to do. 472 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: To the point, I like, I think that Kyler Murray 473 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 5: is a more talented quarterback than Jalen Hurts would be. 474 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 5: He's standing on the table yelling the madness that is 475 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 5: this list if Kyler Murray was ready to bove g right. 476 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: And so that's where it was like, that's why getting 477 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: to Herbert MN, I'm not quite there yet. 478 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: Would you look at golf at this point, got some 479 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: playoff games on the wall. Jaydan Daniels with the playoff 480 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 5: man Golf have been in the Super Bowl. But yeah, 481 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: and you know who else. 482 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: I think it's using this its fuel And if you know, 483 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: you and I are doing this next year, we'll start 484 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: to have a conversation again like does he need to 485 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: be seven, eight, nine, ten. I think Brock perty because 486 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 3: again based off of at the end of the day, 487 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: what's the expectation for a quarterback. I've been to a 488 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: couple of Super NFC Championship, I've done this, I've done that. 489 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: I was an MVP candidate. 490 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: And again, I think he can look at some of 491 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: these other guys and be like, all right, you know, 492 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: just a couple of them like what has he done 493 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: that I haven't What has Justin Herbert done that I 494 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 3: haven't done? I'm way past him dwarfing him when it 495 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: comes to playoff success. So I think there's a couple 496 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: of guys who are maybe on the outside brought Perty 497 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 3: be one like all right, okay and get his Denzel 498 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: vibe of you know, in training day, you know about 499 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 3: the Pelican Bay on y'all. So that to me and 500 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: that and that's the best part about these list is 501 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: you get conversation started. And then also if you're a 502 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: Brock party use at a fuel. We can ask the 503 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: same thing to eat from Salam. On the other side 504 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: of what's trending right. 505 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 2: Now, he is Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 506 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 507 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app 508 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: search FSR to listen live. 509 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: All right, Steve, thank you so much. 510 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, she uh, she got some work to do in 511 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: a three point shot. 512 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 4: It ain't three pointing like it used to. Right now. 513 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: It's the hot couple covin Washington, Martin Weiss on a 514 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: trash talking Tuesday about an hour fifteen minutes or so 515 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: away from that right now joining us cute that man 516 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: song e from Salam, former NFL Offensive Live and Fox 517 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: Sports Radio Weekend host e from Salam on X What 518 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: Up Eat? 519 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 7: What's happening? Brothers? I y'all doing good? 520 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: Man? 521 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: You have a conversation about the top ten quarterbacks, and 522 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: more specifically this time around, we were talking about Jalen Hurtz. 523 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: He was ranking Nick Sirianni says, you know some blankety 524 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: blank I can't say on the air, but I'll paraphrase. Essentially, 525 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: he just thinks it's disrespectful how people regard Jalen Hurts 526 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: and how he's being penalized for doing what he's asked 527 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 3: to do with his team and ultimately it amounts to win. 528 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: I'll speak for myself real quick, and Martin can kind 529 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: of give his and then just get your thoughts. My 530 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: point is, Jalen Hurts while it isn't always necessarily esthetically pleased, 531 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: and while you know, if it was a dual shootout 532 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: with a passing quarterback, you maybe don't pick him, you know, 533 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: one of the top guys. But if the ultimate judgment 534 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: of a quarterback is winning, and that's how we're doing 535 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, who has not been the greatest over the 536 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: last couple of years, but we still have him number 537 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: one because of that, Jalen Hurt should have something to 538 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: say in that regard as well, and I do believe that. 539 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 540 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 5: My point was basically, when you look at the other 541 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 5: quarterbacks ahead of him, with the exception of Herbert, I 542 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 5: think you've seen enough postseason success and there's little projection 543 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: in there the Jayden Daniels. But the thing that I 544 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 5: think that Jalen Hurts brings to the Eagles that is 545 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 5: not quantified is the leadership, the durability, like the I 546 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 5: can't imagine the touch. Push is fun, but it's a 547 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 5: real weapon, and then it's undeniable at this point, to 548 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: the point the competition committee is weighing in on it. 549 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 5: So I think that if you have him as ninth 550 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: that's fine. He's very also, very very important to what 551 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 5: the team does and they would not be winning in 552 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 5: the same way without him. 553 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have a problem with where he's located 554 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 7: at all. The one criticism we had about the Eagles, 555 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 7: and they had it about themselves or they weren't throwing 556 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 7: the ball down the village. This is the same team 557 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 7: that had a All Pro receiver reading the literature on 558 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 7: the on the bench because he was I mean underutilized. 559 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 7: So I mean that in itself tells you everything you 560 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 7: need to know about the actual guy who's passing him 561 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 7: the ball, because that's what we measure quarterbacks on. You know, 562 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 7: their ability to throw the ball down the field, their 563 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 7: ability to take over a game when you're down you know, 564 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 7: six him eight twelve points in the fourth quarter and 565 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 7: you can't run the ball anymore? Can you get them 566 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 7: back in the game. And I think all the quarterbacks 567 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 7: above him on that list have shown the propensity to 568 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 7: do that, but they won the Super Bowl. They had 569 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 7: sat Kwon Barkley. Say, Kawan Barkley had an historic year, 570 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: one of the greatest years any player at the running 571 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 7: back position has had since Eric Dickerson. So when we're 572 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 7: talking about where he's ranked and not ranked, he's not 573 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 7: a pure passer, so we shouldn't hold him to that standard. 574 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 7: He's a good quarterback. He's a winning quarterback, a Super 575 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 7: Bowl winning quarterback. But is he going to throw for 576 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 7: five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns and the season? Probably not. 577 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: He Let me ask you about somebody else that we 578 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: just talked about, and I said, I see the talent. 579 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: I think he is a really good quarterback, but again, 580 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: ultimately might have to start seeing more success in him 581 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: making better decisions in the postseason. 582 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: That's justin Herbert. We all know that raw Town is there. 583 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: He's really good. 584 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: But at a certain point, all right now, I'm gonna 585 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: need to start seeing you accumulate some more wins. Where 586 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 3: do you where do you put him? Because he was 587 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: what was he six on this list? 588 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 7: Uh? 589 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: And and again, when do we start requiring more from 590 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: him after the regular season? 591 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 7: Well, I think now, I think his first four years 592 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 7: in the league, he was hamstrung by an n F 593 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 7: coach who had no business being a head coach, and 594 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 7: the Chargers time and time again kept trying to revisit 595 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 7: that well, and we all knew, I mean, it became 596 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 7: a thing. It became an adjective, can you charger this? 597 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 7: This win away? 598 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 8: Right? 599 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 7: So like it became comical. But yet he's still throwing. 600 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 7: You know, you got to remember, he's thrown for more 601 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 7: yards than anybody at this point in their career ever, 602 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 7: so that in itself lets you know that he's a gunslinger. 603 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 7: He has an armed and if he would have had 604 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 7: the level of confidence at the head coaching position as 605 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 7: some of the other great quarterbacks early in their career, 606 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 7: we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But now he's 607 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: you know, he's got hardball. They went to the playoffs 608 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 7: last year. Now he's going to be measured. Hey, there 609 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 7: is no excuse, there is no reason. Now what are 610 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 7: you going to bring to the table and can you 611 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 7: take that next step? Can you win playoff games? Can 612 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 7: you get to the conference championship and possibly to the 613 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 7: Super Bowl? 614 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 5: Ephrom Martin Wiser e Fan salam here on Fox Sports Radio, 615 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 5: joining us on the odd couple. 616 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes just. 617 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: Got well, he's not a new right guard, I should say, 618 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 5: let me rephrase this. Tray Smith just got a brand 619 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 5: new contract seventy million dollars guaranteed ninety four over four 620 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: million and over four years. And it's now the highest 621 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 5: page center guard combo in the NFL with cheap with 622 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 5: Creed Humphrey Juwan Taylor to right tackle makes twenty million 623 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 5: dollars a year. He's got gets a ton of penalties, 624 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 5: and they've kind of a you know, the drafted the 625 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 5: offensive tackle with their first round pick, but we saw 626 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl protection was rough for them. 627 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 4: This trad Smith gave up two playoff sacks. 628 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 5: Kansas City has invested on seems to me a lot 629 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 5: of the same guys that were there already. 630 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: What's your thought? 631 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 7: I mean, Trady Smith is one of the top guards 632 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 7: in the league. The one thing you can't do is 633 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 7: measure an offensive lineman's worst on a game A play 634 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 7: are a few. You have to look at the totality 635 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 7: of his work, and Trey Smith is one. I knew 636 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 7: he was going to reset the guard market when he 637 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: was up. That's why they franchised him because it was 638 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 7: gonna take a little bit more time, a little bit 639 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 7: more nuanced to get his deal done. But he remember, 640 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 7: this kid is the seventh of the sixth round draft pick, 641 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 7: right who's fought his way and called his way to 642 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 7: being a key member of you know, three super bowls 643 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 7: with with the with the Chiefs, two wins, and so 644 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 7: he deserves every cent. They understand that Patrick Mahome goes 645 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 7: as the offensive line goes. He was under siege in 646 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 7: that Super Bowl against a vaunted defensive front from the 647 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles. So they're going to do the only two 648 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 7: times Patrick Mahomes has lost the Super Bowls, the line 649 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 7: hasn't been up to par. That's the only times. And 650 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 7: so I don't care what receiver tight end. The only 651 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 7: way to get Patrick Mahomes off the field is to 652 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 7: make him feel uncomfortable and not have an offensive line. 653 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 7: They've invested in that, and you know, I'm happy for 654 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 7: Tray's like a little brother than me. Spend a lot 655 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 7: of time talking and talking to him during the season 656 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: as well as other young guys. But you gotta pay 657 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: those guys up front. The world and the war is 658 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 7: one up front with offensive defensive linemen. 659 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: And we saw that. 660 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the Eagles are the case study for that 661 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. 662 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: I got one more for the mote. Yeah, I got 663 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: one more. 664 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: From me, because just because you played in the NFL 665 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: all those years doesn't mean you don't know other stuff. 666 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 4: You are a hooper at heart too. Let't talk NBA 667 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: with you, Ah yeah, I. 668 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 7: Would prefer NBA football, easy man. 669 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: Let's do NBA. So let me throw this at you. 670 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 3: You're also a Laker fan Lebron right now currently. We 671 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: saw him at a summer league. He wapped up rob Lincoln. 672 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: So I don't know what that means because we know 673 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: this seems that have some reports are some disconnect between 674 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: and the Lakers. You got Scoop be Brandon Jackson, he 675 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: was on with us. Robinson, he was on with us yesterday. 676 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: He said, you know, he got the four lists of 677 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: teams that have made some calls to the Lakers about 678 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: Lebron if he were to move. You got the Calves, 679 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: the MAVs, the Warriors, and the Clippers. Those are the 680 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: four he reported. What do you make of where Lebron 681 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 3: is right now with the Lakers, and if he were 682 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: to dip, where's the best fit bars. 683 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, as long as Lebron's gonna 684 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 7: be a Laker, he brings value to the team. If 685 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 7: he decides that he wants to go, I believe he 686 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 7: has no trade claws, so he has to pick and 687 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 7: this and decide where he wants to go. I think 688 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: only two players in the league, him and Bradley Beal 689 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 7: have no trade clauses, So it's essentially where does Lebron 690 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 7: want to go. If that's the case, then it would 691 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 7: probably the Dallas Mavericks getting back with Kyrie and a 692 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 7: d I think two players that that you know, Lebron 693 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 7: enjoyed playing with that one championship was with. But I 694 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 7: don't see how they can pull that off. They're not 695 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 7: gonna give up Cooper Flag or anything other. You know, 696 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: they couldn't give us anything back work of Lebron James 697 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 7: to help really put them over over the hump in 698 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 7: terms of being a playoff and a championship team. So 699 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 7: as of right now, those other going back to Cleveland 700 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 7: now unless Broni's part of the package. I really don't 701 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 7: think Lebron James wants to leave playing with his son. 702 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 7: I think he got a kick out of it last year. 703 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 7: I think he understands how much his son is learning 704 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 7: from him being on the team with him. And as 705 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 7: long as that's possible, I think it's going to go. 706 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 7: Anywhere he's traded to. Bronnie has to be part of 707 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 7: that package. And now we start talking about too many 708 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 7: moving pieces. So we'll see though anything possible. 709 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 3: Anything is possible, and they talk about moving pieces at 710 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: some point. I think he does want to play with 711 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: Bryce too, after he gets his one year in college. 712 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: So that's a whole nother story a time. 713 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 7: Bryce might need more than one year, but Bronnie did. 714 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 7: Who knows, Man, I don't know if no bront will 715 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 7: have the cache again to pull off a Bronnie James 716 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 7: move again, though I don't know. 717 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: There's always the fifty fifth pick. 718 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: We'll see the Fox Sports all right, from the Fox 719 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: Sports studios. 720 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: Thank you. He appreciate it. 721 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: Man, as always, absolutely all right. On the way, no 722 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: doubt appreciate you, brother. 723 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 4: On the way. 724 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: We have our tie rack play other day, plus w 725 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: NBA players showed how they feel about particular somebody and 726 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: Martin and I, well, we actually don't disagree. 727 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: We'll tell you what we're talking about. See a couple 728 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: of Fox Sports Radio. 729 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 730 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 731 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeart Radio app. Search f 732 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: s R to listen live. 733 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. 734 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: It is the couple kelvin Washington, my man Martin Weiss 735 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: in the building. And for Rob down there in Atlanta. Okay, 736 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: that's a different look. What's the name again on the 737 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: singer right now? The country singer again? Turn your Michael. 738 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: What's his name again? 739 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: Uh? Not spoozy? What's the name of. 740 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: Brown? 741 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 6: Y'all are uncultured? 742 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: Man? I got it before you said it, so all 743 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: the one. 744 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 6: He was talking to Alex excuses Cane. 745 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: Brown's got a unique look going on right now. 746 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: First of all, tucking the jersey into the jeans has 747 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: become the new thing. 748 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: And I don't know that Reggie Miller meant to make. 749 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: It a thing during the Pacers uh and the during 750 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: the finals when Reggie Miller was sitting there in front 751 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: seat and he kept having his pacer jersey tucked into 752 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: a jeans. 753 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, this is an interesting little Bruben in the 754 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 4: gym though, he yet, the. 755 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: Gym that's your thing, if you're gonna wear it cut off. 756 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I can't deny that one. You know, it's 757 00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: the bicep there. 758 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: But did you tuck in to Jerry bro That's just 759 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: too Hey, Rob g Alex, I'm just saying, remember this moment. 760 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: Take it in. Look at him soaking in remember it. 761 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 4: Remember it. Martin Weiss has a Halloween costume into making. 762 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 6: I can see it. 763 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: I don't have a biceps for that one. But that's 764 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 4: a problem you got till October. 765 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 6: I thought you don't run from the grind. Marty made 766 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 6: a big point about that to open the show. 767 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: Can also sign up for grinds that I'm not be 768 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: able to get to. 769 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: Nobody said you had to have the guns. 770 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: We just had. 771 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: You had to resemble them so we would go, oh, 772 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: I see what you did there. Because people always want 773 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 3: to come up with the most unique you know, Superman 774 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: and Iron Man and all that's done. Now people want 775 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: to find the most obscure Halloween costumes. Now, Kane Brown 776 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: from the All Star Game, actually All Star Game, I 777 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: already know it's going to be a Halloween costume. I'm 778 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: big in the Halloween. So do you spoil it now 779 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: until now? Of course not, But I just want you 780 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: to know that on July fifteenth you already know. Yeah, 781 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 3: like there's a massive leader in the clubhouse. That would 782 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: have to be an incredible shake up to change. 783 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 4: What were you last year? The Grinch? Okay? How how 784 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: in depth? 785 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: Show me a picture at some point you to show 786 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 3: me now, but like you know what I mean, there's 787 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: like old store on something I got at the No, 788 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: the the was only there for a few months, or 789 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 3: like makeup, Well I had the mask. 790 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: I did that makeup. But I've been known to I'll 791 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: go all out, you go all out robbed you all 792 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 4: in on that too. Nah, No, I'm not. I didn't. 793 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: I just didn't grow up that way. Not that I 794 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: wouldn't be if I. I just moms wasn't having that 795 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 3: after a certain time. 796 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 6: And my Halloween budget kind of reserved for a five 797 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 6: year old right now? 798 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got it a lot. 799 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, so like just like three costs and you know 800 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 6: alpha change is so na. 801 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 4: Let you that would you go a store or something? 802 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: Would you do? I didn't dress up? Actually? Well oh 803 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 4: all right? That are used to come on? You know 804 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 4: how that. 805 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the biginess of putting clothes on if you know 806 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: a point. 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But it 825 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: wasn't overwhelming, you know, it wasn't eighty ninety percent and 826 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: for me fifty three percent. 827 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at that. 828 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you're asking somebody to project five years is 829 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: crazy in a sport where anything can happen. Also in 830 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 3: a sport where, by the way, they already have people 831 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: who are better than her, and also people who could 832 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 3: project Page Beckers might meet better than her. Asia Wilson 833 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: we already know is better than her. You have, of 834 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 3: course on the way Juju, once she gets back and 835 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: the healthy and then comes into the WNBA could easily 836 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: be the face. 837 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: Of the league. 838 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: Or you're just in a situation mark when you have 839 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 3: multiple like there's not a clear cut similar to the 840 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: next couple of years, Steph Curry and Lebron are done. 841 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: I don't know who the face of the NBA is. 842 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 4: I'd say, is it NB? 843 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 7: Is it? 844 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 4: Luca is it? 845 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,959 Speaker 5: And is a j point the face of the NBA 846 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 5: and the most popular player in the NBA not the 847 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 5: same thing, because if you said the most popular player 848 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 5: in the NBA under thirty two division, the answer is 849 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 5: LaMelo Ball by Instagram followers and social media handles and 850 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 5: all of that. Like the answer is LaMelo Ball. But 851 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 5: all that that, I will say, But I get your metrics, 852 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 5: I get the. 853 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But it's like, that's like popularity. 854 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 5: Just because you're the most popular player in the league 855 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 5: does not necessarily mean you are the face even the 856 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Anthony Ever's got a much 857 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 5: better shot because he'd be in the playoffs, he'd be 858 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 5: in the West Harvers Finals. Kayln Clark got to get 859 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: to one of those on their side of things, and 860 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 5: maybe I could happen and start making some threes. What 861 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 5: the heck, that's what you cannot be good at. What 862 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 5: I know you for right now, what I know you 863 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 5: for is shooting threes. 864 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: And she's on the struggle bus obviously coming off injury, 865 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 3: shooting twenty six percent since the injury, twenty nine on 866 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 3: the season. I believe that's gonna go up at some point, 867 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 3: and she's a much better player than what she been showing. 868 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I mean. That's not a crazy fifty. 869 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: That's still above at that's most that's the majority. It's 870 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: above fifty percent of the people. More people turned in 871 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: when Kayln Clark started playing. Fact, they're gonna watch everybody 872 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: else though. Eventually, know what I'm saying like or even 873 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 3: the teams they play against, they'll see the other players. Yeah, 874 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: and again, I have to keep I keep highlighting. When 875 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: Rob's here too, I highlight juju, like, don't sleep on 876 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 3: what juju brings as well. MLB All Star Game, we 877 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: gotta talk about it. Fox Sports Radio