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Speaker 2: Swam to the ground by Buddha Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, one hand to catch it a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, I'll that fail. Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvic

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Speaker 1: and nine year NFL veteran Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 3: So the combine is done. Prodays will happen here soon.

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Speaker 3: Free agency right around the corner, literally one week from today. Yes,

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Speaker 3: there is no such thing as an off season in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Let's not forget, gentlemen. Today the final day

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Speaker 3: teams can use the franchise tag should they choose to

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals not expected to, but it is happening around

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Speaker 3: the league. Gentlemen, how are we feeling? Rob be good?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is fired up. This is the off season,

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Speaker 3: so you're supposed to be relaxed, ease into the regular season.

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Speaker 3: But if you're the front office, Paul, there is no

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Speaker 3: eason into anything anymore.

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Speaker 2: There's no stinking off season. I mean, it's game season

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Speaker 2: and non game season. That's what it is these days.

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Speaker 2: In effective Monday, you start to get all the negotiating

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Speaker 2: season going, and so you're gonna figure out, all right,

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Speaker 2: which big name free agents are gonna be out there,

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Speaker 2: who's gonna get paid, who's coming the Cardinals way, Perhaps

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Speaker 2: we're both the owner and the GMSA recently and the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals flagship radio station that they were going to be active. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? Does that mean big money to

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Speaker 2: a big name player they have around fifty million or so?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean incremental targeted spends to fill particular roles?

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Speaker 2: We'll see I like tiern maniausin Ford at the combine

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Speaker 2: saying you know what, hey, not only are we answering

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Speaker 2: the phone, we're gonna be making some calls as well.

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Speaker 2: So what does this all mean? Very intriguing.

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Speaker 3: A lot of pieces need to be put around the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals to be successful in twenty twenty four. And

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Speaker 3: you supplement those pieces when it comes to free agency,

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Speaker 3: But which you really do? You build through the draft

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Speaker 3: and what we saw over the past what was it

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Speaker 3: four days, five days rob in Indianapolis the scouting combine,

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Speaker 3: A number of prospects look good and we're seeing more

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Speaker 3: athleticism at different positions the line of scrimmage, offensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: vertical jump. This is a different breed of athlete than

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Speaker 3: perhaps you went up against back in your day.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, these guys get continuously get bigger, stronger, faster.

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Speaker 4: I look at the combine as a you know, probably

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Speaker 4: the biggest job interview of your life for a lot

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Speaker 4: of these guys. Maybe not so much for the top

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Speaker 4: that range. But for everybody else, this is an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to really separate yourselves, to do something special out on

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Speaker 4: the interviews, and and have those those general managers for

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Speaker 4: the thirty two NFL teams, maybe say hey, you know what,

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Speaker 4: let's let's look a little closer at that film. Let's

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Speaker 4: let's go back to a sophomore year and look at

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Speaker 4: that film and and just maybe pay a little bit

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Speaker 4: more attention to that particular player. This is an opportunity

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Speaker 3: Maybe answer some more questions that perhaps teams or personnel

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Speaker 3: because they say just go back to the tape, but

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Speaker 3: medical interviews get to know the person because we can

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Speaker 3: all see what the player can do when we watch games.

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Speaker 2: Or if you didn't play at a Power five school,

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Speaker 2: Tell me that's not gonna help his draft stock. It's

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Speaker 3: To your point about Mitchell, there are many people believe

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Speaker 3: Pro Day's in top thirty visits that come around. But again,

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Speaker 3: it is about these young pieces that you hope to

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Speaker 5: If they love ball and if they're team guys first.

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Speaker 5: It's awesome meeting with them, getting a star them, to

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Speaker 3: And that's difficult. Rob Do you love ball? And are

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Speaker 3: you a team first guy? You can say all of

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Speaker 3: then do you have the passion to play? Which is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine the interviews are. They're the one thing

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Speaker 4: You know, everyone's going to say, yeah, I love football.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's going to say that. But but you look him

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Speaker 4: this interview that he's going to be I also think that,

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Speaker 4: you know, the combine as a whole is really an

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Speaker 4: And you know, whether it's through the physical or the

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe that we can nick this guy down

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams didn't participate, but he was there I believe

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Speaker 3: it was on Friday watching his teammates, and then on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: According to many people in attendance, he was one of

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Speaker 3: and then made his way out of town. But those

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Speaker 3: are the little things, those little details, Paul, that sometimes, okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe that's something we did not quite know about the player.

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Speaker 2: And it can be a long day, right, So to

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Speaker 2: Rob's point, it's the end of the day and they're

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Speaker 2: asking you different things, and you're being poked and prodded,

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Speaker 2: and you're going through your umpteenth different interviews. So what

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Speaker 2: I said, well, how do you know?

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Speaker 2: He was asked the comment, how do you know if

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Speaker 2: a guy really loves ball? He said, well, what I

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Speaker 2: call winning behavior. They're daily habits. Remember Michael Carter showed

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Speaker 2: a travel day going from the Jets to the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: middle last season, he said, that's like the first day

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Speaker 2: I haven't practiced football in like five years. So you

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Speaker 2: can tell just by the routine. And then there's the

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Speaker 2: medical side of it. Michael Pennix who had four straight

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Speaker 2: so for him to show up and go through the

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Speaker 2: whole battery of medical tests. That's critical is draftstock and

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Speaker 2: his status. And then he really performed well throwing, you know,

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Speaker 2: And don't think, don't think the guys don't watch quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson Anthony Richardson right, these are two guys QB

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Speaker 2: we thought and speculator he might go number sixteen to

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Speaker 3: These players hope to hear their names called at the

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Speaker 3: end of April, come draft time. But before that one

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Speaker 3: week from today, in fact, Monday. You touched on it earlier, Paul,

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Speaker 3: the tampering, the legal tampering period begins and then free

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Speaker 3: agency March thirteenth, that begins the difference though in building

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Speaker 3: the team between free agency and the draft. Here is

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Speaker 6: At various points throughout the season. There's ways to add

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Speaker 6: to our roster. There's ways to add and really two

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Speaker 6: of the big ones are coming out in the next

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Speaker 6: couple of months here, starting with free agency, and so

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Speaker 6: you know, I think what we do is we assess

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Speaker 6: only short term but also long term. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I think the one thing about free agency is I

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Speaker 6: don't think it's cure all. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 6: a team that's the great place to be roster building

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Speaker 6: and uh, forming the nucleus of a team. I think

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Speaker 6: that has to happen through the draft. And so free

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Speaker 6: agency is a great tool. It's a supplemental tool and

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Speaker 6: one that we're going to investigate every single aspect that

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Speaker 6: we can to build our team. And then really once

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Speaker 6: we get to the draft, then that's where the core

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Speaker 6: of our team is going to be built.

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Speaker 3: Not a cure all. Yeah, free agency, you'll overspend because

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Speaker 3: there's a bidding warrant. Typically that jacks up everyone's price

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Speaker 3: tag and then benefits the player, yes, but maybe not

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Speaker 3: so much the team. That's why Demani's point. Roberts figuring

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Speaker 3: out those players that you can hand select in the draft,

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Speaker 3: provided they're available. When your name is up on that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oftentimes a player becomes a free agent. It's not

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Speaker 2: But that's not to say that Cardinals don't have needs.

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Speaker 3: And there are big names available to be hitting that

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Speaker 5: The offensive line, and I always think in my mind

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Speaker 2: We've talked so much about who the Cardinals are going

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Speaker 3: As many as eight offensive linemen potentially can be drafted

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Speaker 2: Carolina put the franchise tag on Brian Burns. I was

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Speaker 6: That's one of the challenges of the draft is trying

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Speaker 3: The consensus coming out of Indianapolis, whomever you run into

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Speaker 3: by seat Geek, your ticket to great seats. Do quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Let that hang in the air, Craig speaking into existence,

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Speaker 2: Let's go, I mean, get y up over here, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just like the Denver GM. George

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Speaker 3: The problem is that fourth QB is a Michigan Wolverine,

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about that. A lot of teams and

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Speaker 7: and get it, run the intermediate route, present that big body,

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Speaker 7: good frame, go and get the football. Really like that,

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Speaker 7: but all the others have that as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if it's not wide receiver, perhaps the Cardinals are

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Speaker 3: looking at in offensive tackle. Maybe a Altz at number four.

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Speaker 3: Went with offensive tackle a year ago in Paris Johnson Junior.

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Speaker 3: That worked out pretty well. Davis again in Indianapolis. The

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Speaker 3: Cardinals in a unique position, but not so unique because

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Speaker 3: there have been teams in the past. Flashback to the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one NFL Draft, the Bengals and Lions in

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Speaker 3: a similar position.

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Speaker 7: So let's go back and go through some recent history

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. Let's go to Detroit. They took Piney

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Speaker 7: Seoul and played him at right tackle because they had

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Speaker 7: Taylor Decker at left tackle. That was a debate that

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Speaker 7: worked for Detroit. Let's go to Cincinnati. Should it be

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Speaker 7: Seul or should it be Jamar Chase. They chose Chase

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Speaker 7: that worked out. I think it's a matter of what

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Speaker 7: montiasen Ford is your GM. Jonathan Gaza, head coach and arrested.

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Speaker 7: The scouting department determines when they put that board up,

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Speaker 7: where the value is and how they rate those players.

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, the fifth overall pick, first wide receiver off

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Speaker 3: the board, went seventh overall, with Devonte Smith on the board,

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Speaker 3: selected tenth overall by the Eagles. In twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: For the full interview that myself and Danny Surrek had

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Speaker 3: with Charles Davis, got to Cardinals cover two on Asycardinals

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Speaker 3: dot com, Forward Slash podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: But it is a interesting conversation, rob when you're trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out what is the best fit for this offense,

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Speaker 3: specifically when you have your quarterback already in place, is

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Speaker 3: it that playmaker or is it making sure you have

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Speaker 3: someone to keep your quarterback upright?

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Speaker 4: Well, you heard Jonathan Gannon say his preferences is really

467
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Speaker 4: to build through the offensive line first and then offensive

468
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Speaker 4: tackle presumably, so that's always an option. And I don't

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Speaker 4: think any cardinal player. I don't think Kyler Murray would

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Speaker 4: be upset with that. But you know, when you're sitting

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Speaker 4: there at four, I think we can we can complicate this,

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Speaker 4: and we can Manti os Fort, you know, he can

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Speaker 4: do whatever he does, but to to boil it down

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Speaker 4: and keep it as simple and as you know, stress

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Speaker 4: free as possible. You got Marvin Harrison Junior sitting there

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Speaker 4: at four, you take that pick, and then you got

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Speaker 4: your Houston Texans pick later in the first round, you

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Speaker 4: get a great cornerback like Nate Wiggins or kool Aid mckissory.

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Speaker 4: That's a home run draft, just in the first round,

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Speaker 4: just right there, that's a home run draft in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: And there is the you know, guys like us, especially yours, truly,

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Speaker 2: you know it can overthink this whole thing. When if

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Speaker 2: you're sitting there at four and you got a first

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Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer potentially, yeah, a generational talent like

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. Yeah, just take the overthinking out of

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Speaker 2: it and you submit that card and then you wait

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Speaker 2: till twenty seven and it's so deep. But then again

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Speaker 2: there's just that allure, that temptation. The draft is so

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Speaker 2: loaded in so many position groups that you direly need

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Speaker 2: that you would love to have more picks. So if

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Speaker 2: you went from four to six, four to eight, still

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Speaker 2: got one of those top three receivers, another pick that

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Speaker 2: turned into a starting corner starting d Lineman. It's tempting,

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt, and so that's why I think it's

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Speaker 2: really intriguing, And especially after we saw maniasa Fort.

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Speaker 3: Work the board and worked the war room.

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Speaker 2: A year ago, and for him to say later that

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Speaker 2: he didn't really envision the way it played out. You

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Speaker 2: never would have known it based on the video we saw,

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Speaker 2: the all access video from the war room. He's sort

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Speaker 2: of like he saw every single thing coming and as

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Speaker 2: Michael Bidwoll said, team Owner, he had multiple plates spinning

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Speaker 2: at once. So I think everyone's really intrigued to see

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Speaker 2: what he does this year.

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Speaker 3: Is it a tough decision, Maybe it's not. Maybe we

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Speaker 3: are overthinking things here with that number four overall pick.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to Indianapolis. Mantay Austin Ford asked about

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior and then kind of swung it over

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Speaker 3: to the entire wide receiver class.

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Speaker 6: Marv's been a great player. He's been a productive player

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Speaker 6: here these last couple of years. You know, it's a

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Speaker 6: strong receiver draft, it is, and so there's a good

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Speaker 6: players at the top of the draft. There's good depth

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Speaker 6: throughout the mid rounds, you know, and so you can

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Speaker 6: certainly put Marvin in that mix. And so I really

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Speaker 6: don't want to get into like an individual scouting report

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Speaker 6: right now. All I can tell you is that, hey, like,

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Speaker 6: we've done a lot of work on Marvin, just as

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Speaker 6: we have the rest of the draft, and you know,

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Speaker 6: excited to continue to work him through the process here

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Speaker 6: in the next couple of months.

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Speaker 2: All right, So to come full circle, let's go back

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Speaker 2: to the Lions, right what I call the Honolulu blue print.

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Speaker 2: How many times did they take a receiver atop the

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Speaker 2: draft and where did the Lions go in team history

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Speaker 2: over the last two decades. Matt Millen made that mistake

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Speaker 2: three times as the Lions GM, even when they got

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Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson and he was All of Famer. What did

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Speaker 2: that do for their postseason fortunes? This time around, Brad

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Speaker 2: Holmes shows up from the Rams. He's a GM. He

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Speaker 2: invests in the line of scrimmage, Penny Sewell, Aiden Hutchinson

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Speaker 2: number two. Overall, you get those dudes in the trenches

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Speaker 2: and then you hit on Aman Ross Saint Brown in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round and all pro receiver. That would be

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Speaker 2: a formula I could see the Cardinals following.

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Speaker 3: And does the fact that DJ Humphrees tore his ACL

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Speaker 3: late in the season complicate matters? And he will get

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Speaker 3: to Humphrey's and the latest on the Cardinals starting left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Humphrey speaks, so we'll listen as we continue here on

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Speaker 3: Of the Cardinals at number three. They've got a decision

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Speaker 3: to make as well, or maybe it's no decision. Just

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Speaker 7: Were the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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Speaker 6: The Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson, Junior, Ohio State High

556
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Speaker 6: high football character, highly intelligent, well spoken, mature, dependable, and

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Speaker 6: you can tell that he's made of the right things,

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Speaker 6: the things that we want not only our offensive lineman

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Speaker 6: to be made of, but but our entire team.

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Speaker 3: Safe to say, the Cardinals hit a home run with

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Speaker 3: the selection of Paris Johnson Jr. Sixth overall. You're her

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Speaker 3: general manager Monti Austin Ford speak highly of the young

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Speaker 3: player out of Ohio State, and then we got to

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Speaker 3: see him play this past season. In fact, started all

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Speaker 3: seventeen games, played every single offensive snap, plus a number

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Speaker 3: of special team snaps as well. Could never get Paris

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Speaker 3: Johnson Junior off the field. As we walk back to

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Speaker 3: the second half of the Cardinals Red Seat Report here

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Speaker 3: presented by your Ticket to Great Seats, And that was

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Speaker 3: the wheeling and dealing in the draft room Paul from

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Speaker 3: the third pick to the twelfth, moving up to the sixth,

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Speaker 3: and then we hear after the fact that even at

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Speaker 3: number three, if the Cardinals had stayed, Paris Johnson Junior

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Speaker 3: in all likelihood would have been the selection. They thought

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Speaker 3: that highly of the person and the player.

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Speaker 2: It was great to hear him at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year, right because he played every single game, every

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Speaker 2: single snap. Hey, Paris, you know it's a media guys.

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Speaker 2: Geez dide, you hit the rookie wall. He's a rookie wall.

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Speaker 2: There's no stinking rookie wall. I never hit the rookie wall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can tell he's a Manti Assin forts

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Speaker 2: sort of player. Just the mindset, you know his And

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Speaker 2: we've talked about this, his little skirmish with TJ Watt

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Speaker 2: on the road at Pittsburgh, and then we found out

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Speaker 2: at the end of season he was trying to take

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Speaker 2: TJ Watt, the former NFL defensive player of the out

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Speaker 2: of bounds. He wanted that on his resume and TJ

588
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Speaker 2: Watt was having none of it. So he went down

589
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Speaker 2: and then fist started flying. Okay, So that's the sort

590
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Speaker 2: of mindset and that's the kind of guy they're looking for,

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Speaker 2: not just the fact, you know, he's sixty six six ' seven,

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Speaker 2: he has all the feed and the intangibles everything else.

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Speaker 2: They want the mentality in the trenches, and they feel

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Speaker 2: like they have a pretty good track record ability to

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Speaker 2: discern if that's the sort of guy that they're taking

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Speaker 2: in the draft.

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Speaker 3: And Rob talking about Paris, he got tested quite a

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Speaker 3: bit on that right side. Yeah, maybe he gets moved

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Speaker 3: to the left side eventually. Maybe he just stays right

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Speaker 3: where he is because he was so successful.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've made this argument people I think put

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Speaker 4: too much stock in the importance of the left tackle

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Speaker 4: versus the right tackle. I think the right tackles equally

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Speaker 4: as important, especially for a right handed quarterback, because you're

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Speaker 4: actually seeing that You're not just feeling it from the backside,

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Speaker 4: but you're actually seeing that pressure. And if you have

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Speaker 4: a right tackle that can just shut it down like

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Speaker 4: Paris Johnson did all the season long. And you're right,

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Speaker 4: he was tested. That to me provides and affords the

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Speaker 4: quarterback and off a lot of confidence knowing that I

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Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that and and even though

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Speaker 4: I could see it and with my peripheral vision as

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Speaker 4: a quarterback right hand and quarterback Paris Johnson just locks

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Speaker 4: it down. That's a that goes a long way for

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Not only were we impressed with what Paris Johnson was

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Speaker 3: able to accomplish. How about former Cardinals offensive lineman Justin Pugh. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's got a podcast net Worth podcast. He discussed recently

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Speaker 3: meeting Paris for the first time.

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Speaker 5: I was at breakfast with and my wife the other

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Speaker 5: day and I saw Paris and I look up to him.

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Speaker 3: I'm like his little brother.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, mister Giants, all right, mister Johnson,

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Speaker 5: if you need help with anything, just let me know,

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Speaker 5: let me know I'm here.

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Speaker 3: I mean that starts making me think, like, man, I

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Speaker 3: gotta get my ass out of the league. I always

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Speaker 3: love to hear from Justin Pugh. By the way, that

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Speaker 3: other voice you heard, DJ Humphreys, who was the guest

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Speaker 3: of Justin Pugh. Before we get on Humphreys and his

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Speaker 3: latest with respect to that injury, here's Humphreys talking about

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Speaker 3: the young offensive tackle.

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Speaker 8: I've never met a Ricky like this, dude, like especially

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Speaker 8: in a Rickie office alignment, whether it's how he is

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Speaker 8: on the field and actually being ready to play on

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Speaker 8: the field, like the guy that he is with the

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Speaker 8: helmet all and how he is off the field. He's like, like,

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Speaker 8: I don't they made this dude in the lab? Also

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Speaker 8: like this is he's one of those guys. It's like,

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Speaker 8: how do you? How are you good at everything?

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Speaker 3: Again? DJ Humphries on the net Worth Podcast with Justin

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Speaker 3: p all Right, let's talk about the man, DJ Humphries,

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Speaker 3: because it was late in the season, Paul, you tear

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Speaker 3: your ACL. It's bad enough as it is the injury itself,

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Speaker 3: but then the timing of it and now the uncertainty

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Speaker 3: going into the offseason, going into next season. How far

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Speaker 3: into the season, How much time does Humphreys missed? What

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Speaker 3: do the Cardinals do in the meantime? There are several

649
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: different options the Cardinals have, and I don't know if

650
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: there's an easy answer one way or the other.

651
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: You need a starting tackle. He's not going to be

652
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: back for the start of the season. Will he be

653
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: back at all? We don't know yet. And so these

654
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: are all questions that maniacivor Jonathan Gannon have to address here.

655
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: So if you were to go a Joe Alt in

656
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: the draft, one of these other tackles, eight tackles, you know,

657
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: position to go in round one, and then you have

658
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: to figure out, okay, what does that mean for the

659
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: future of Paris Johnson Junior, who, by the way, at

660
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: the end of last season, we asked him, okay, if

661
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: you would have been asked to go to left tackle

662
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: and Calvin Beacham was just inserted there to finish out

663
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: the season, he goes such a late injury, dj umpres.

664
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Speaker 2: Paris Johnson Junior said, one practice, give me one practice

665
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: to get back in the swing of left tackle. Because

666
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: he played every single game his final year Ohio State

667
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: a left tackle, but before that he had started on

668
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: the right side. So you like the flexibility of a

669
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson. So if you go for the best tackle

670
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: on the board, let's just say in round one, and

671
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: whether he's right or left, you have the option of

672
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: moving Paris accordingly. Now look at Tampa last year. Tristan

673
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: Wurse was drafted twelfth overall at Once upon a Time

674
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: a few years ago, and he played every single game

675
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: at right tackle until this past season they moved him

676
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: to left. A lot of people thought he wasn't as effective,

677
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't as beneficial to Tampa and then wondering if

678
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: he's going back to right tackle. So to Rob's earlier point,

679
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: but once again, you have to figure that out if

680
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: you're the Cardinals, whether that's gonna be a plug and

681
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: play guy, a veteran, be a free agency or are

682
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: you looking to the future and you're gonna draft a

683
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna be a starting tackle for the next decade.

684
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you draft a left tackle. Immediately you place him

685
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: a left tackle. Paris does have history on that side.

686
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: But to your point, Robbie played so well on the

687
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: right size, did you just keep him in trench to

688
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: maybe move him later in his career if at all.

689
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: And then of course you do have the Humphries waiting

690
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: in the wing. Potentially you got Kelvin Beacham who's under

691
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: contract for next season. So again, how this Cardinals team

692
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: figures out the tackle position overall, whether that's to Paul's point,

693
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: free agency or the draft or some combination of both.

694
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 4: I look at the free agent available tackles and there's

695
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: a couple Tyron Smith, Mackai Becton, Trent Brown. All those

696
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 4: guys are starters. All those guys are very capable, but

697
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: they have the injury bug. And you know with Mikyle

698
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: Beckton there's a little bit of a motivational issue question mark.

699
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: So it's not you know, these guys are going to

700
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: command high dollar free agent contracts and and you know

701
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: with with an injury tag associated with that, that's that's

702
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: gonna that's risky business in my opinion. Whereas if you

703
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 4: go through the draft to get one of those top guys,

704
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, that's presumably gonna have to be a trade

705
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 4: down situation, maybe a trade backup situation and and get

706
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: like all the last year or what you did last

707
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: year to get one of these guys. But I can

708
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: see a JC Latham, I really like him out of

709
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: Alabama and he that that that's a dude. That's a guy.

710
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: You know, everybody talks about Joe Alt from Notre Dame,

711
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: But JC Latham, that's a that's a dude.

712
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: And he met with the Cardinals. He told the media

713
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: he met with the Cardinals. That was one of his meetings.

714
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: So there are so many tackles that could be potential

715
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: future Cardinals. Know fuagat Oregon State, a lot of people

716
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: came out. He worked out so well at the Combine.

717
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people went back to his film and said,

718
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: could he be the first tackle taken off? And now

719
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: he was a right tackle his whole career at Oregon State.

720
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: So once again, if you draft him, Paris might go

721
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: to the left. If you take Joe Alt for your

722
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: starter at Notre Dame and left tackle, he stays the left,

723
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: Paris stays the right. There's a lot of things yet

724
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: to be determined, and it's just probably going to be

725
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: based on how the board comes to you. That is,

726
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: if the Cardinals go tackle at all in the first round.

727
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: This conversation about the offensive line tackle specifically, I do

728
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: think was going to be happening regardless of the injury

729
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: to DJ Humphries. It just might be a little bit

730
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: a louder conversation because Humphreys is on the shelf right now.

731
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: What's the latest with him? At least according to the

732
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: Gentlem manager. Here's Monty Austin Fort last week at the

733
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: scouting combine.

734
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Speaker 6: It was too bad and unfortunate for hump just you

735
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 6: know the timing of the injury and you know when

736
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 6: it happened, and you know it's it's a difficult situation.

737
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: So all I can say is that Hump's been in

738
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 6: the facility every day. He's grinding through rehab and he's

739
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 6: I know he's gonna put himself in the best position

740
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 6: to get himself ready to play. It's a tough situation. Again,

741
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 6: it goes back to the unfortunate nature of injuries and football,

742
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 6: and you know, I know Hump's going to do everything

743
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 6: that he can do to get himself back out on

744
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 6: the field.

745
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: Humphrey started fifteen games last season. The year before, he

746
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: missed nine games because of the back injury. But before

747
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: that there was a three year stretch Humphrey started forty

748
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 3: eight of forty nine games. He is the longest reigning

749
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: or I should say the longest tenured at Arizona Cardinals

750
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: player period. You hate for him to suffer this injury

751
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: so late in the season. And dare I say Rob

752
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: late in his career because you're getting to that age

753
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: you're twenty eight, pushing twenty nine thirty and figuring out, Okay,

754
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: how many more years do I have left to do

755
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: this at a high level with the team that do

756
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: they want me or not?

757
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, As you know, the older you get, especially at

758
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 4: that offensive line position, the harder it gets to be.

759
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: As effective as you once were, and Paul you mentioned

760
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: earlier Calvin Beacham. You know, he's historically been a backup guy,

761
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: but when he does get an opportunity, he flashes. You know,

762
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 4: he does a very good job. He's a solid player,

763
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: and I think, you know that could be a kind

764
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 4: of a swing guy where if you have to move

765
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: Paris over to left tackle, Calvin put him in at

766
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: right tackle. It's not a long term solution, but if

767
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 4: maybe you draft an offensive tackle, maybe he's a project,

768
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: maybe you get him in a later round of mid round.

769
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: You know, Calvin can at least keep it warm and

770
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: can keep that spot and be effective and do what

771
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: you have to do offensive line wise to keep this

772
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: offense humming.

773
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: It's a great point.

774
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go receiver with your first first

775
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: round pick, and then you go a different position at

776
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: twenty seven overall, whether it's corner, whether it's d line, Okay,

777
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: maybe you don't get the tackle. I know, I'm sort

778
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 2: of part of the group think, oh Cardinals are getting

779
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: in a tackle in round one. It's not automatic. There

780
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: are plenty of other needs, plenty of other players. Maybe

781
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: they get a guy in round two, three or four.

782
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: They think it's more of a project in Kelvin Beacham,

783
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: who has supreme confidence by the way he stands at

784
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: his locker, and guys like me, we Pepper Hum and

785
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: Craig and we say, oh, geez, left tackle this week,

786
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: and he just smiles. I played five straight years a

787
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: left tackle for the Steelers. I mean, you know, you

788
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: forget his resume, you forget the guys he's gone against,

789
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: but what you're missing with DJ Humphreys. And you guys

790
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: can tell me if I'm wrong. I mean, you can

791
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: count on one hand how many times the Cardinals in

792
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 2: his career have given him help on that left tackle spot.

793
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a luxury. Whether it's Cliff Kingsbury,

794
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: whether it was Bruce Arians, doesn't matter, whether it's now

795
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannas say, you know what, d J. Jempries has

796
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: the left side secure. We don't necessarily have to give

797
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: him any help chipping with a running back or a

798
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: tight end.

799
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: That's how proficient d J.

800
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Humpres has been over the years as a left tackle.

801
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: It's valuable to where you don't have to worry about

802
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: that side. Hopefully the Cardinals get to that point with

803
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior. Maybe they already have based off his

804
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: first season and facing the numbnumber of edge rushers that

805
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: he did face this past season and held his own.

806
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: So fascinating to see what the Cardinals do at the

807
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: tackle position. Is it in free agency? Is it in

808
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: the draft? And where does Paris Johnson Junior ultimately land?

809
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: I like hearing big Justin pughe got up and had

810
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: to look up at Paris Johnson Junior. You know what,

811
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: every once in a while, that's good for a guy

812
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: like Justin.

813
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: Per You know.

814
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: That's like you and me, Paul, Oh boy, here we go, Okay.

815
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 6: Here we go.

816
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: It's like when Kalis Campbell met Tyson Chandler, a son

817
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: seven foot one center. I said, kalais at six ' eight.

818
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: How often has that ever happened to you? He's like,

819
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: not very often?

820
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not very often that Khalais is looking up

821
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: at another person. This is the Arizona Cardinals, right, do network?

822
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 5: I do think that we have a good plan in

823
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 5: place to improve our players and get better culture. Guys

824
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: is people and how you behave That's it. It's not

825
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 5: some fancy word. It's like, hey, like who do you

826
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 5: have and how do we behave on a daily basis right.

827
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: So it's my job to hold them to that set,

828
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 5: say hey, this is what we want and then let's

829
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: make sure we do it. And when it's right, we

830
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 5: point that out, and when it's not right, we point

831
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: that out. And then ultimately the locker room took that

832
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 5: over this year.

833
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: Hey, coach Jonathan Gannon a week ago in Indianapolis, As

834
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Speaker 3: we continue here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report presented

835
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Speaker 3: by a seat Geek Your Ticket to Great Seats, Craig Reia,

836
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: Lupaul Calvc and Rob Rob Fredericks. Excuse me, Rob? The

837
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: first year for JG. Yes, the establishing the culture, what

838
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: is winning behavior, what is accepted and what is not?

839
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 3: And then to hear JG say Rob that the locker

840
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: room took that over late in the season speaks volumes

841
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 3: because yeah, you only win four games, but the locker

842
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: room bought in from day one and continue to buy

843
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: in to where they were holding one another accountable even

844
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: late in the season.

845
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: I love that JG. You know, he establishes the culture,

846
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: but it's the locker room that enforces it. And it

847
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 4: doesn't always happen that way. It's not always the case.

848
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: You look at successful teams throughout the league and it's

849
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: the locker room that is really running the show. And

850
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: the teams that struggle are the ones where you know

851
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: they're relying on the head coach to be the enforcer

852
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: and the head coach to be the always be the

853
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: bad guy, and then that creates animosity from the players

854
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: towards a head coach and it just becomes this negative environment.

855
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: But it's good to see that in year one, it

856
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: looks like JG and the Arizona Cardinals players really have

857
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: gotten this down as far as the culture and.

858
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: My working theory. And I'm still holding to this.

859
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: No one's told me this, but I still think that

860
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: at pivotal points in the season they sent a message.

861
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: With the release of Amy Jay Sanders, with the release

862
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: of a Marco Wilson, trading away Isaiah Simmons, there was

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Speaker 2: just enough player turnover that there was a reminder to

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Speaker 2: but this is your profession and we expect the most

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Speaker 2: in there okay, and they have everything. The one way

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Speaker 2: to motivate is job security and remind everyone jobs are

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Speaker 2: on the line.

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Speaker 3: Fitting well on the field as well as in that

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Speaker 3: locker room, that right fit that's difficult to find oftentimes,

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Speaker 3: whether you're talking about the draft of free agency. Here's

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Speaker 3: at the Combine.

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Speaker 6: Anytime that we add a player to our building, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be we're going to talk about the fit

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Speaker 6: not only on the field, but off the field as well.

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Speaker 6: And so that's why this week is such a big

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Speaker 6: step in that process, is that we can meet with players,

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Speaker 6: we can compare the information that we have coming in

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Speaker 6: here to our take once we get a chance to

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Speaker 6: sit down across from them. Ultimately, we owe it to

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Speaker 6: the locker room to bring in people that have the

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Speaker 3: We all I'll see the talent on Sunday's rob what

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Speaker 3: we don't see. Tomani's point is those meetings with the players,

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Speaker 3: and then figuring out, Okay, yeah, you're talented, but are

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Speaker 3: you going to buy in? Are you going to put

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Speaker 3: team ahead of yourself? The team ahead of the individual.

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Speaker 3: That's difficult to do for a general manager.

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Speaker 4: It's like rebuilding a house, you know, remodeling a house.

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Speaker 4: You have the opportunity to go out and to the

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Speaker 4: they crooked? You got you gotta find some straight ones?

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Speaker 4: And you know that's that's what the whole process that

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Speaker 4: Austin Ford and jg are doing, and it looks like

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Speaker 2: The effort in the physicality was there all season, from

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Speaker 2: the first quarter of the first game when Kaisier White

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Speaker 2: took it to the Eagles on the road, and the

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Speaker 2: the season. Everyone who encountered the Cardinals last season saw

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Speaker 2: a physical team and I think that's kudos to gain

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Speaker 2: in Maniassin.

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Speaker 3: What new pieces will be brought in free agency begins

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Speaker 3: in one week's time. Special thanks to Jim Almahundro, Cody Fincher,

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Speaker 3: Matt lazaruz Or, Paul calvc Ron Frederickson. I'm Craig reallou

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a touchdown foot a Baker with the sack

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Speaker 3: strip the ball. HER's gonna score touchdown?

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