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Speaker 4: All Right, so.

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Speaker 3: It appears that the football in Pennsylvania is not happy

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Speaker 3: with their head coaches. That's like a Pennsylvania thing, like

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Speaker 3: a PA thing. Nick Sirianni's getting it every week, even

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Speaker 3: though he just won a Super Bowl. We obviously talked

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Speaker 3: about the penn State situation. And then there's Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 4: Going at Tomlin. Yeah, a lot of people coming for Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: He was on the Football and Podcast with Ben Roethlisberger and.

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Speaker 4: He had this to say.

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Speaker 3: He also had an idea that might solve another issue

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Speaker 5: And I know it's it's being talked about around here

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Speaker 5: a lot. Maybe it's time. Maybe it's a clean house time.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it is Maybe it's time. And I like coach Tomlin.

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Speaker 5: I have a lot of respect coach Tomlin. But maybe

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Speaker 5: it's best for him too. Maybe maybe a fresh start

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Speaker 5: for him is what's best, whether that's in the pros,

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Speaker 5: whether maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know

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Speaker 5: what he would do in Penn State. He'd probably go

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Speaker 5: win national championships.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't hate that. I wouldn't hate that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he would I see what you're waiting for. That's what

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Speaker 4: you're waiting for. I would not get it. Now, that

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Speaker 4: would be that would excite the fan base. Whoa, yeah, whoa.

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Speaker 4: That would be deep. That'd be awesome. Now that's a

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Speaker 4: plot twist I had not thought about. Gotta be honest

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Speaker 4: with you there. Yeah, But I will say this, looking

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Speaker 4: at the way Pickens is playing in Dallas, he is

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Speaker 4: their best player. He is Dallas's best player. Dak is

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Speaker 4: their best player, Dak is their highest paid player. Pickens

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Speaker 4: is their best player. Then it starts like then you

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Speaker 4: start to run down the history of receivers in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want to make this conversation about receivers

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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. I want to make this about culture in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: And I've heard a lot of things, like doing the

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Speaker 4: when Rob Woodson and Cornell Lake and those type of

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Speaker 4: mass point at Mike Tomlin's career as the Pittsburgh Steeler

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Speaker 4: coach because he has done it his way. He's been

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Speaker 4: He's had a great run. I'm not saying it's over.

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Speaker 4: He ain't gonna make it. Aaron Rodgers is not going

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Speaker 1: Can I throw this theory out there as we listened

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Speaker 1: It's one of those coaches where played against him, didn't

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Speaker 1: and that is our like toughness, gritty, good like smash

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Speaker 1: But is't as this as this league has changed into

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Speaker 4: It just it's not really how the game is anymore.

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Speaker 1: And I know since Ben, really you can just attribute

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Speaker 1: But I do think as far as winning super Bowls,

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Speaker 4: Long along with it.

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Speaker 1: I just I just think it's interesting when you look

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve when they won with Flacco. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: the limitations to how they can impact the game and

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Speaker 1: impact the quarterback position.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I mean also the team from that division that's been

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Speaker 1: No, if anything like they're in about more you know,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately like what now in the NFL wins the kans

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Speaker 4: Especially not this season in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't think the way it ends with Tomlin,

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Speaker 3: I don't think is a firing. I think there's some

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Speaker 3: we're gonna let you leave. Yeah, well, but I would

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Speaker 3: say that ended. I don't know, Man, that seemingly landed

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Speaker 4: I don't think it ends ugly just because you lose

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Speaker 4: your job based upon you know, reasons given, which would

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Speaker 4: most likely be they want to go in a different

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Speaker 4: to being a super Bowl contender. I mean he's been

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Speaker 4: there eighteen years. Let's be clear, right, I mean the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl team, a lot of those guys were inherited.

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Speaker 4: He came in and inherited that team. So as he

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Speaker 4: moved forward, he has maintained the line. But here's to me,

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Speaker 4: I think where the rubber meets the road. And it's

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Speaker 4: funny because I feel like Ben is able to lean

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Speaker 4: not been able to figure out how to develop a

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Speaker 4: by the way, that inherited team that Mike Tomlin got

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Speaker 4: You don't have that right now in Pittsburgh. Who do

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Speaker 4: you have on that offense that would be that type

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Speaker 4: have that anymore in Pittsburgh. Well, how good is the

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Speaker 4: roster because like it's questionable. I mean this idea that

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna get Yeah, they need they need to

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Speaker 4: change at coach. Okay, what about a change on the

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Speaker 4: roster because they probably should have drafted the air apparent

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Speaker 4: to Roethlisberger while Roethlisberger was still there and they didn't.

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Speaker 4: The Kenny Pickett stuff was a disaster. Rogers looks completely beat.

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Speaker 3: Up and banged up, and we knew coming into the

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Speaker 3: just there was an opportunity for them to take control

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Speaker 3: year four and one, I think they're two and five

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Speaker 4: Maybe the roster's just not very good. Yeah, but it

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Speaker 4: falls at the feet of the head coach and the

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Speaker 4: turn the corner. I'm just being honest. They haven't been

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Speaker 1: helped him win a Big Ten championship and make it

435
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Speaker 1: to the College Football Playoff back during the fourteen playoff.

436
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Speaker 1: I think Pat Fitzgerald has the ability to do so

437
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Michigan State also making a huge investment into their athletics program,

438
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Speaker 1: in particular focus on Nil So big time get for Sparty.

439
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Speaker 1: I've another couple of Highers.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I've never heard one person say anything

441
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Speaker 3: but good things about Pat Fitzgerald.

442
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Speaker 4: Everybody loves to love them. He's the best, He's the

443
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Speaker 4: best man.

444
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can, we can recap these after let's just

445
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Speaker 1: kind of get through the list. Next up is Alex

446
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Speaker 1: Goulish to Auburn, the former head coach at USF. He's

447
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: taking over kind.

448
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Speaker 4: Of flew under the rnar of this past week. Uh

449
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Speaker 4: shut up us but.

450
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Speaker 1: Goalist now takes over at a place that I think

451
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Speaker 1: if he brings his ingenuity everything else he brought USF,

452
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Speaker 1: should also be a winner. And then probably the last

453
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Speaker 1: one that really didn't get any any publicity whatsoever, that's

454
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Speaker 1: just Stanford these days, Tavita Pritchard. He was on the

455
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Speaker 1: Washington Commander's staff. He will now take over as head

456
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Speaker 1: coach at Stanford. A former teammate of Andrew Luck their

457
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Speaker 1: general manager.

458
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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: Maybe worth discussing just what happens if things don't work

460
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: out with this higher because that's there's now a coach,

461
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Speaker 1: and you know the prior coach, Troy Taylor Andrew luck

462
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: had had to fire and move on from. Now he's

463
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Speaker 1: hiring one of his teammates, and Tavida Pritchard one of

464
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Speaker 1: his buddies. I do think Tavida would do a great job,

465
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Speaker 1: but worth kind of discussing. And then the last thing,

466
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: some interesting news on the recruiting front. Former Penn State

467
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Speaker 1: commit O lineman Benjamin Azyuka he flips to Virginia Tech.

468
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Speaker 1: So we're already seeing a little bit of that James

469
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Speaker 1: Franklin effect. Guys who are committed to go play for

470
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Speaker 1: him now playing for the team that James Franklin's coaching.

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Speaker 1: But that is your college football round up.

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Speaker 4: All right? Wasn't Also? Is it?

473
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Speaker 3: Troy Hunn, the quarterback, was committed to Penn State. Now

474
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Speaker 3: he's going to Virginia Tech as well too.

475
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Speaker 4: There's a few there's a receiver that did it too.

476
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Speaker 4: There's a few guys that have flipped to go to

477
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Speaker 4: where going. I'm interested to see when the portal opens

478
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Speaker 4: how many guys from Penn State end up out of

479
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Speaker 4: Virginia Tech. That'd be interesting. You have a ballpark number,

480
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Speaker 4: ay bro, I've heard some numbers of the transfer portal.

481
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Speaker 4: I hope they're they're inaccurate. A staggering number of guys bailing.

482
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a staggering number of potential the parties. Yeah, well,

483
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Speaker 4: this would.

484
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Speaker 1: Be the first time Penn State may not have a

485
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Speaker 1: single early commit I believe since the early window opened.

486
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Speaker 4: I think I saw that somewhere.

487
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Speaker 1: The obviously early signing period is today, and most teams

488
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Speaker 1: now will be signing. And really you're kind of blue

489
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Speaker 1: chip guys you're looking for because you want to get

490
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Speaker 1: them in early. They enroll in January, they start you know,

491
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Speaker 1: spring ball and all that, and then even though they're freshmen,

492
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Speaker 1: they're really more like almost I don't want to say

493
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Speaker 1: red shirt freshmen, but they're just much more prepared for

494
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Speaker 1: that freshman sea. And because they've gone through school, they've

495
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Speaker 1: gone through the spring, they've gone through the summer and

496
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Speaker 1: the entire program, as opposed to you know what used

497
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Speaker 1: to be back in the day when we would get there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you enrolled early, did you me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't a thing back when. I I mean people,

500
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Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. Like, even when I played it,

501
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Speaker 4: it wasn't. It wasn't a big thing. You know, you'd

502
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Speaker 4: go talk to your high school counselor.

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Speaker 1: And I remember telling my high school counselor back then

504
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Speaker 1: my Sunday, Hey, I'm thinking about doing this, and they're like, oh,

505
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: that's okay, Well we've got to do this, this, and this,

506
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: because you know, that's not really like that, you know, popular,

507
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Speaker 1: which I was like.

508
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Speaker 4: I had this high school sweetheart. I was enjoying high

509
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Speaker 4: school life. I wasn't in a rush too. I lost

510
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: my hair when I went to college. I was stressed.

511
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: I wasn't in a rush to get there. Yeah, but

512
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Speaker 4: my Sunday, my son and my daughter went early last year,

513
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Speaker 4: so they were early enrolies. I think Penn State has

514
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Speaker 4: to brace for not having a recruiting class this year.

515
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Speaker 4: I mean, and and they have to really look at

516
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Speaker 4: whoever they're bringing in has to be able to They're

517
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Speaker 4: going to have to be able to build this roster

518
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Speaker 4: purely through the portal. And and I you know, when's

519
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: the when's the next portal? When when's the second one?

520
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Speaker 4: There's two? Now right, there's still two. No, it's just

521
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Speaker 4: it's just one. It's in January. What happens when the

522
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Speaker 4: new coach comes in. Like, I'm curious as to so

523
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Speaker 4: without the coaches or you won't have a team, he

524
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Speaker 4: might not have a team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so the transfer portal window now has moved

526
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Speaker 1: to January second and ends in January sixteenth. Okay, so

527
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Speaker 1: that's when, like the portal window opens for everyone, but

528
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Speaker 1: for Penn State, they haven't hired a new head coach.

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Speaker 1: So once they hire a new head coach, there will

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Speaker 1: be I believe, a fifteen day period where the players

531
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Speaker 1: can get anointed or acquainted with that new head coach

532
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Speaker 1: and the coach can decide, you know, what he's looking

533
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Speaker 1: at the roster, and then there's a five day period

534
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Speaker 1: following that where the player can make that decision to leave.

535
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Speaker 4: So what about the coaches though? What what? What are

536
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Speaker 4: they do? They have any any ability to bring players

537
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Speaker 4: in because they during the January second to January sixteenth window.

538
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Speaker 4: But that's it. That's it. So if they were to

539
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Speaker 4: decide to leave once everything settles in with the hit coach,

540
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Speaker 4: and they were to decide to leave, and that's after

541
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Speaker 4: the portal the portal time is closed, what do you have.

542
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Speaker 4: There's got to be a way to you know what

543
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Speaker 4: I mean, Like, if you don't have a team, are

544
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Speaker 4: you got to be able to populate your team?

545
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Speaker 3: Are you almost better off hiring a guy who's already

546
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Speaker 3: a coach somewhere else so that he can bring in players.

547
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Speaker 4: Or you might have to hire a guy that can

548
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Speaker 4: keep them there.

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Speaker 1: So it's a really interesting question that Jonas is asking

550
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Speaker 1: because if you look at a lot of the hires,

551
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Speaker 1: whether it's Ryan Silverfield who goes from Memphis to Arkansas

552
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: or Bob Chesney he was at JMU who's now going

553
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: to be at UCLA, there's the expectation that a lot

554
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Speaker 1: of those players that he thinks can play at that

555
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: level they'll come with him. Right, There'll be those guys

556
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Speaker 1: who helped build that foundation of the environment of what

557
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: they're bringing, oftentimes a quarterback. So you know, I wouldn't

558
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Speaker 1: be shocked if James Franklin didn't try to bring not

559
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Speaker 1: only recruits, but also some Penn State players that may

560
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Speaker 1: be looking for an opportunity or want to go there.

561
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Speaker 1: So I would think there'll be an initial uptick. And

562
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Speaker 1: by the way, I think James Franklin's gonna do well

563
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Speaker 1: because he'll be able to recruit. But also, let's just

564
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Speaker 1: call it what it is. The ACC is a much

565
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Speaker 1: easier conference to plan in the Big Ten, Like they

566
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: will be better because outside of Miami, who's got a

567
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Speaker 1: ton of money, like you, who are you really looking at?

568
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Speaker 1: They are saying, ah, we don't we don't feel like

569
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Speaker 1: we could beat them. Like UVA and Duke are playing

570
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: off for the a SEC championship, Duke has what five losses? Like,

571
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Speaker 1: let's let's be honest about what this is. Virginia Tech

572
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Speaker 1: can become an immediate contender in the ACC, whereas Penn

573
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Speaker 1: State with the addition of Oregon and combined that with

574
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Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan, the way pet State struggled against them,

575
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: it was always gonna be a uphill battle. Like I

576
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: feel like this almost creates a scenario where James Franklin

577
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Speaker 1: can immediately be playing for a Colaswall playoff spot, potentially

578
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Speaker 1: even next year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's wild times.

580
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Speaker 3: Man got a month, got a month to figure this out,

581
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Speaker 3: far got to get this done.

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Speaker 1: Jonas, did you want to weigh anymore on Pat Fitzgerald

583
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Speaker 1: or is that all just so?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

585
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Speaker 3: He used to come on the show that was previous

586
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Speaker 3: to this with Andy Furman and Mike North years ago,

587
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: like probably ten plus years ago. And Pat Fitzgerald was

588
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: buddies with Mike North obviously for his time in Chicago.

589
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: And he would come on and he was the coolest dude,

590
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: always accommodating with his time, always great conversations, and there

591
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: was a lot of people in and around Chicago who

592
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: wanted him to be the coach of the Bears.

593
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: Like everybody loved Pat Fitzgerald.

594
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Speaker 3: So the fact that he was waiting for this whole

595
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Speaker 3: thing to get sorted out, you know, the legal stuff

596
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: behind the you know, his lawsuit against Northwestern and all

597
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: that stuff, and then got gobbled up this quickly afterwards,

598
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: I think is telling to the respect people have for

599
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Speaker 3: the guy. And that's that seems like a really good

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Speaker 3: hire for Michigan State. And I know Petrus as you

601
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Speaker 3: know said listen, I would have hired Pat Fitzgerald at

602
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Speaker 3: USC years ago.

603
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Speaker 4: And so the fact.

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Speaker 1: That if it's what they're missing, right, yeah, Like you

605
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: want physicality, you want tough, gritty nature to build up

606
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: your program, Like that's that's what you need. And I

607
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: have no idea why they wouldn't have looked at him sooner.

608
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Speaker 3: How difficult is it, How difficult is that Northwestern job

609
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Speaker 3: with the academics and everything that go along with it.

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Speaker 1: It's why David Brown should have gotten more looks from

611
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Speaker 1: a lot of people. I mean, if you looked at

612
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Speaker 1: their team this year, they are just a tough, sound, discipline,

613
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Speaker 1: rugged defensive team. They try to pound away run into

614
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Speaker 1: football and they basically have one kid that they brought up,

615
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Speaker 1: you know, with him at wide receiver, and obviously a

616
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Speaker 1: transfer quarterback in and Stone who's capable of throwing.

617
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Speaker 4: But like that's it.

618
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Speaker 1: They got one guy to throw to and that's that's

619
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Speaker 1: the entirety of their passing game. And they were able

620
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Speaker 1: to compete in the Big Ten and and take Michigan

621
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Speaker 1: to the brinks. You know, when you're watching them, it's

622
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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty phenomenal the job that Lebron has done

623
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Speaker 1: despite the circumstances he's been given.

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Speaker 4: N we just got to get this done, bar gotta

625
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Speaker 4: get this done. Oh yeah, like, let's get it done.

626
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Speaker 1: I want to I want to go back to the

627
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Speaker 1: Tavda Pritchard higher at Stanford though, because this is getting

628
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Speaker 1: to the point where you know, Stanford's a foreign a

629
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Speaker 1: football team and I'm not sure like you put that

630
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Speaker 1: on Andrew Luck. But look, Frank Wright did come in

631
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Speaker 1: as the interim coach to help out, you know, Andrew

632
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Speaker 1: through this time as he was trying to find kind

633
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Speaker 1: of the next guy. Well he's got the next guy,

634
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Speaker 1: but the next guy happens to be like his guy,

635
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Speaker 1: you know, a former teammate and everything else where. I

636
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Speaker 1: think if you look at the university, if this doesn't

637
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Speaker 1: work out and they go through another out of losing seasons,

638
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: at some point, if you're Stanford, do you kind of

639
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Speaker 1: look at Andrew Luck and say, O, all right, maybe

640
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: we need to have someone else who is a little

641
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Speaker 1: bit less biased towards the past and look at what

642
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Speaker 1: we need to do in order to be successful.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when has Stafford ever really been successful outside.

644
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Speaker 1: When Andrew Luck was there, and even there's been there's

645
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Speaker 1: been ballots.

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Speaker 4: Well it looked they were, and how good were they

647
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Speaker 4: it was there?

648
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Speaker 3: David Shaw did him pretty How high have they ever climbed?

649
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Speaker 4: I think they finished number two at one year, that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: If they finished number two ever in the history and

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Speaker 4: creation of college football, the.

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Speaker 1: Highest they finished was third, I believe in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 4: And that was again back with and I think so.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean they had a moment year. I

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Speaker 4: just don't feel they.

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Speaker 1: Were I mean, if you're talking about ap during that

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Speaker 1: area like they've been, they finished third fourth, you know,

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Speaker 1: four to third, like you know, like throughout those years

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Speaker 1: of Christian McCaffrey, Toby Gerhart Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they had a really big run of success.

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Speaker 1: What what to me, what happened to them was they

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Speaker 1: got to the point this is this sounds terrible and

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say and when I called a game.

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Speaker 4: There, who told me this? But I do believe this

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Speaker 4: to be true.

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Speaker 1: They got a bunch of players who started going there

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Speaker 1: who didn't want to really play football, like they went.

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Speaker 4: There purely for the demo. Ree. Well, I think that

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Speaker 4: that that they're always going to face that and that

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Speaker 4: was wunny.

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Speaker 1: But it was to the point where like guys would

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Speaker 1: be like tricking them.

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Speaker 4: It would be like a three star, four star kid.

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Speaker 1: He'd be like, yeah, no, coach them all in them

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Speaker 1: and they get there and they basically turn into a

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Speaker 1: turn and they would just want to go to a class.

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Speaker 4: And look, I'm not just wild, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 4: make fun to say that about an athlete, like, oh

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Speaker 4: my gosh, what do you mean your education is more important.

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Speaker 7: If you just want to go to I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: that is they did it. They did it purely to

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Speaker 7: get into school because they knew they couldn't get into

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Speaker 7: school otherwise, and so they used the veil of being

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Speaker 7: a football player, a scholarship football player, which hurts the team.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not I'm not condemning them for the fact

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Speaker 7: they loved academics or one to get into Stanford.

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Speaker 1: It's the way they went about doing it was fooling

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Speaker 1: a coaching staff who thought they were all in. And then,

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Speaker 1: by the way, once those guys got there, one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why you know it didn't work out was

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Speaker 1: because what did they do They called this is the

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Speaker 1: phrase they just use intellectual brutality. That's what they used

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Speaker 1: to to like use as their phrase of like how

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Speaker 1: they were gonna win games. They would physically beat you

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Speaker 1: down to death with extra offensive linemen and tight ends

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Speaker 1: and just run the ball down your throat and they'd

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Speaker 1: be running gap schemes that you know everyone's running the

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Speaker 1: spread up tempo offenses you play Stanford, you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: the football like six seven times a game because they

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Speaker 1: just eat up the clock and they're just trying to

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Speaker 1: pound do like a nine on seven drill every single day.

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Speaker 1: And that got very less. It was less attractive to

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Speaker 1: a lot of the players that were trying to go there.

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Speaker 1: They're like, wait a second, I'm here to study at Stanford,

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Speaker 1: but I'm bashing my head against another guy in front

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Speaker 1: of me every single day in practice and every single Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to do this anymore.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I forgot how good Christian McCaffrey was

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Speaker 2: There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,

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Speaker 2: bad and ugly.

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Speaker 3: All right, Ian Roddy, Who's got what this week? What

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Speaker 3: are the assignments?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Sheriff Jonas, Let's start with you. What's

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Speaker 4: the good this week?

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Speaker 3: I would say the good this week is actually two

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Speaker 3: days away. And the good on this show is our

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Speaker 3: fine court system here and the appeals process that will

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Speaker 3: be headed and heard by our fearless leader that assesses

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Speaker 4: The one and only Brady Quinn.

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Speaker 3: I know that I have an appeal hearing this Friday,

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Speaker 3: and I know it's going to be fair, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be balanced, and I know I'm gonna get my

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Speaker 3: voice heard. And I really do respect the process, and

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Speaker 3: I respect the judge and the commissioner behind this whole thing.

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Speaker 4: I think he does a tremendous job. That's my good

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Speaker 4: for the.

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Speaker 3: Week, all right, Sheriff LeVar Arrington, you're gonna tell us

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Speaker 3: the bad this week.

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Speaker 4: Well, that'll be ten dollars. His take was bad, his good,

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Speaker 4: his good of the week was bad. That should be

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Speaker 4: ten dollars. I was gonna talk Penn State coaching search.

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Speaker 4: But you know what what Jonahs just did just now,

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Speaker 4: that's bad. That's bad. That should be a ten dollars five.

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Speaker 4: I'll turn it over to the commission, I'll turn it

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Speaker 4: over to the judge, but it should be ten dollars

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Speaker 4: for him just now because that was very court system.

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Speaker 4: Good God, I'm done, Okay, Sheriff Brady, what's the ugly

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Speaker 4: this week? The ugly is well.

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin left Old Miss, but he left some broken

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Speaker 1: hearts behind. A lot of Old Miss ladies are airing

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Speaker 1: out Laide Kippin's d MS.

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Speaker 4: And text message conversations. Yeah, it's getting a little bit ugly. Boy.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't look any more like a dirtbag, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. I mean, it even goes to the point

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Speaker 1: where in some of these messages he even knows the

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Speaker 1: girl's boyfriend's name. I mean, college kids, So it's sliding

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Speaker 1: in dms. It's all kinds of things. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: all sorts of messaging going on, you know one in particular.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The girl says, ha ha, wow, you can't tell Tyler

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Speaker 1: he'd hate me. Lane Kiffer response, Hell no, I don't talk.

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Speaker 1: So is that a yes?

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Speaker 4: Come over tonight?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but it has to be top secret. This

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Speaker 1: is wild but also kind of ugly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, oh wow, hop on the Lane train. But

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Speaker 4: she said, yeah, she was coming through, so she will

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Speaker 4: you marry me? Wow? A whole lot of Iden