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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff threeing out podcast Thursday Night Football. We got

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Speaker 1: the show for Friday and today. I said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I was looking at a lot of the mailbag questions

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Speaker 1: those dms, get your questions answered on the show throughout Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the Belichick thing is getting even worse,

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Speaker 1: so if something officially happens, I will definitely react to that.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, I've talked about that

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Speaker 1: he quits or he's fired, which all signs kind of

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Speaker 1: point to that happening now, which is insane. If you

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Speaker 1: make it too week six, he wouldn't make it to

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Speaker 1: I definitely would not have. So if he doesn't coach

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Speaker 1: And this is why people like me have jobs, because

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Speaker 1: the time you're listening to this, Belichick might not be

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Speaker 1: the coach in North Carolina. You guys know the drill.

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Speaker 1: to three and out. Let's dive right into Allen here.

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Speaker 1: Let me see if I clicked it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Gannon being fined one hundred thousand dollars. Growing up playing football,

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Speaker 1: He's been coaching long enough to realize what that that

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Speaker 1: that is a coaching point that gets hammered to players,

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Speaker 1: it would take for college football to start a conference

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Speaker 1: the when the NFL network showed the red Zone, well

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Speaker 1: Where did the Raiders go from here? It's obviously time

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Speaker 1: toward the end of last year was strong enough to

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Speaker 1: justify that selection, but they've completely reshuffled it, moving guys

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Speaker 1: any position, really high. It's not about the first month

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Speaker 1: Think about some of the guys that were drafted high,

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Speaker 1: like Bejon Robinson or McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley. When you

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Speaker 1: bumpy early on. The NFL is hard. But they drafted

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Speaker 1: Saquon because they thought when they picked six, he was

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Speaker 1: the best player on the board. I think it was

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Speaker 1: really that simple. And you know, if there had been

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Speaker 1: a tackle there were taking, I think they would have

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Speaker 1: taken him. If there had been a defensive lineman there

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Speaker 1: were taking, I think they would have taken him. But

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Speaker 1: they viewed relative to his class, he's the best player.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they just went into it thinking like

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Speaker 1: we're running back away. Even though I kind of disagree

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Speaker 1: with the pick, I do understand if he's the best

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Speaker 1: player on your board, if you go with that philosophy,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be better off more often than not.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more of an indication of, like how

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Speaker 1: shitty this team is like they've been bad for a

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Speaker 1: real long time. And I totally understand, Like if your spytech,

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Speaker 1: if you're Pete Carroll, giving Max Crosby an extension right

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Speaker 1: paying him a bunch of money, you want him on

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Speaker 1: your team. Great leader, high level guy, tone setter, team captain.

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Speaker 1: But I think we oft to agree he's kind of

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Speaker 1: wasting away on this team, like his value for all

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Speaker 1: Like can you imagine his value to like the Bills,

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Think about his value to the Packers. I

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Speaker 1: guess trade for Mica, But like those type teams Seattle,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, it's really really high. And it

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Speaker 1: gets complicated because in the NFL with signing bonuses, it's

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Speaker 1: I have to look at his contract, but having just

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Speaker 1: paid him, I think they would be reluctant. But his

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Speaker 1: value on the team, like could he get him like

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Speaker 1: a one in two twos? Wouldn't that be better for

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Speaker 1: them long long term than just keeping him around. But

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Speaker 1: this is when you have an older coach who brings

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Speaker 1: like a legend, who's still unlike Bill, really into it

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Speaker 1: trying hard. I just don't think there are teams that could.

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Speaker 1: And they invested edately in Colton Miller and Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: and that type move you make when you're trying to

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Speaker 1: win right now, and I think they realize, well, we're

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Speaker 1: not as close. The division is really hard, and they

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Speaker 1: probably headed for like five wins. I think that Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll or the Chip Kelly thing was weird to me.

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Speaker 1: Is Matt Lafleur holding Jordan Love back? Love Love Love

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Speaker 1: obviously has all the skill in the world to be

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Speaker 1: an elite player, and it's obvious that he has benefited

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Speaker 1: from Lafleur's play calling. I also think that Lafleur turned

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Speaker 1: him into a good quarterback, but seems to make Love

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Speaker 1: hold back on his play calling because of his ability

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Speaker 1: and arm talent would transform him into an actual elite quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think Lafleur is simply relying on his play calling

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Speaker 1: ability and is telling Love to play within the system,

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Speaker 1: which hinders his true potential. What do you think? I

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Speaker 1: think that Lafleur sh when he got Aaron Rodgers, and

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Speaker 1: will if you listen to me, and run the Shanahan offense,

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Speaker 1: and we will morph your shotgun. He's very obviously Aaron's

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Speaker 1: comfortable in the shotgun, but play under center some of

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Speaker 1: those run game. Let us be a little run first.

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Speaker 1: It'll help everything out. And they kind of rogers capitulated

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Speaker 1: and they kind of met in the middle and it

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Speaker 1: really worked. I think at his core, it's like he

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Speaker 1: wants to run more of the Kyle offense, more of

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Speaker 1: a run heavy play action, and a huge part of

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Speaker 1: that offense is not like McVeigh more of a rebel.

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Speaker 1: I've said forever. McVeigh is like the in shape, younger

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Speaker 1: version of Andy Reid. In a perfect game for McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: he would throw it fifty times, like Andy Reid would

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Speaker 1: throw every play if he couldn't and win that way, right,

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Speaker 1: So would Sean McVay, So would Kevin O'Connell. Like they

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Speaker 1: like to pass. I nothing against it, Like that's just

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Speaker 1: their style. Where Kyle and his dad would like in

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Speaker 1: a perfect game for them, their quarterback would have like

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Speaker 1: twelve pass attempts and they would win like twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven, and they would rush for like seven yards

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Speaker 1: of carry on forty attempts. You know, that's what. So

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Speaker 1: every coach philosophically wants, you know, Mike Zimmer wants to

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Speaker 1: blitz Vic Fangio doesn't. So everyone's a little different. And

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Speaker 1: I do believe that laflor believes in his scheme, in

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Speaker 1: his play calling. So I think they're in fairness, like

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Speaker 1: what is love done Beside a couple of games late

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Speaker 1: in that first year starting for him to go like

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Speaker 1: you just do whatever you want with Rogers, like you

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Speaker 1: had to buy in when he says like, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna run some plays at a shotgun, not saying that

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Speaker 1: offense that he would run every single play shotgun four wide.

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Speaker 1: So I think it can be. It's just difficult. I

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Speaker 1: look at lafleor a's a plus, but I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: like Jordan does have the physical attributes to scramble around,

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Speaker 1: big arm make some plays. But I think he'd also say,

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Speaker 1: do I trust your decision making when you do that?

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Speaker 1: I think there'd be some he'd have a valid point.

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Speaker 1: I'm a former Cleveland Brown fan. When the Watson deal

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Speaker 1: went down and we shipped away Baker, I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it anymore. Since then, I have begun to follow

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Speaker 1: the Bucks very closely and truly feel a sense of

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Speaker 1: connection to their team, and I love watching Baker Mayfield thrive.

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Speaker 1: My question is this, what precedent is there for picking

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Speaker 1: up and changing allegiance in sports. It's not something I

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Speaker 1: ever would have considered with my other teams, but this

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Speaker 1: situation felt different. I don't blame you at all. I've

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Speaker 1: said before that a couple of years ago, we were

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Speaker 1: getting questions from Patriot fans and I said, no, you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to jump ship. You've had twenty years, nine

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances, one six of them went to like

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Speaker 1: fifteen AFC champion and ship games got to watch Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady for two decades, So yeah, it's shitty and Belichick

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Speaker 1: lost his fastball and Matt patric Is calling your offensive plays.

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Speaker 1: You got to deal with it for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: And look now it's like you got Rabel and Drake

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Speaker 1: Bay like, oh, it's fun again. But if you're a

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Speaker 1: there are certain teams that like, I just can't take

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Speaker 1: it anymore, And I would say different than the Raiders

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Speaker 1: for you guys is the Baker thing, which looking back,

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Speaker 1: it's like, why did we have to do this? And

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Speaker 1: I don't blame anyone, like I'm not rooting for Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and I'm not a moral high horse guy, like

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Speaker 1: I don't care, like I don't root or don't root

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Speaker 1: for people in sports. I mean I do in politics

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Speaker 1: or whatever because I disagree with them and then I

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Speaker 1: just naturally hate him. But when it comes to sports, like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I've rooted for some guys that you know

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Speaker 1: Watson thing and then how bad he was and how

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Speaker 1: rough it is to watch the team, Like I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm out. And I've been saying this for a while.

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Speaker 1: Like Stefanski Andrew Berry, I get they're highly educated and

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Speaker 1: their degrees are way more impressive than mine and probably

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Speaker 1: fucking clue what they're doing? I mean really, like it's

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Speaker 1: maybe it's the owner, and it's not on those two

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Speaker 1: about the guy. I met him once a long time

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Speaker 1: ago when I was working in the league. I didn't

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Speaker 1: you know Andrew Berry at the time. Wasn't Andrew Berry.

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Speaker 1: It was just like a road pro scout. We sat

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Speaker 1: Seemed like an impressive guy from Harvard. Obviously it has

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Speaker 1: gone on to, you know, run a team. But if

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Speaker 1: you know, the Shador mess Stefanski, it's just like it's

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Speaker 1: just a it's just a zoo. It really is. Then

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Speaker 1: I saw today that Deshaun Watson is going to be

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Speaker 1: clear sometime in the next month or two, Like he

639
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: is going to be cleared with games remaining on the schedule.

640
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, if they ever were to put

641
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: him out there, and granted I don't think those guys would,

642
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: but they did, Like I wouldn't blame any fan for

643
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: just quitting, be like, I can't do this anymore. Now,

644
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. I'm not sure what's gonna happen,

645
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: but it's just it's not fun. I mean, part of

646
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: this is like listen, part of watching sports. If you

647
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: have a team, you have your good times and you

648
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: got your bad times and the overall when it's all

649
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: said and done. Obviously, if you're a Laker fan or

650
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: a Patriot fan and you have a certain age like

651
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: you've had, you've had a lot of good times, but

652
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: you're also just gonna have some really bad times and

653
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: it all kind of comes in perspective, and sometimes going

654
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: through the ugly makes when you finally just turn the corner,

655
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: even if you just make a wild card like that

656
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: was sweet. Right when you're the Browns, It's like it

657
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: can't always be this bad. And then we had a

658
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: guy and I get the GMS kind of polarizing, who

659
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: was like, I think this guy like the next Brett Farv.

660
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: That was John Dorsey's thing. John Dorsey was around the

661
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: Packers in the nineties. It's how he knew Andy Reid's

662
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: why Andy hired him to be the GM of the Chiefs.

663
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: And it was like, I see Farv in this kid,

664
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: and you look in twenty twenty five like I'm not

665
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: saying like Brett Farre's a better player in Baker Mayfield,

666
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: but was he kind of right? Like, I mean, Baker

667
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: Mayfield has something kind of I don't know that it

668
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: factor kind of a special player. And now it's like

669
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: we had this guy. We had this guy. It's why

670
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I defended like Minnesota. It's like someone DM me yesterday.

671
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know they let Sam Darnald and

672
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones go. I'm like, well, they picked up

673
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones off waivers. That's not the same. They had

674
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: Sam Darnald and he threw thirty five touchdowns for him

675
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: and they chose not to resign him like that, That

676
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: is a legitimate conversation. I don't hold Daniel Jones again,

677
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: just like I don't hold Baker Mayfield with the Rams.

678
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: Obviously they got Stafford, but you know, I think these

679
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: situations just kind of get weird, and they get weird fast,

680
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: and if you're a Browns fan, it's just really it's

681
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: a rough, embarrassing stretch, it really is. And like, all

682
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: this time, you have one of the great pass rushers

683
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: of all time, Your defense now for several years has

684
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: been really good. It's like, what's going on and our

685
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: coach is an offensive coach. My question with the Browns

686
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: and I don't follow them, you know, besides, like Mary

687
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Kate on Twitter, like I'm not on the Browns message

688
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: boards and stuff, and listen to local radio. Did Stefanski

689
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: turn on Baker? Was Baker? You know? Tough to handle

690
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: for Stefanski, Like, I need the real story there, like

691
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: what happened with that? It wasn't just like Odell's dad

692
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: posting the YouTube like see my son's open. It had

693
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: to be more complicated than that. Like what I want

694
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: is like a wicker Sham or Mary Kay one of

695
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: those people that covers the team or is just locked

696
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: into the league. I want to know what happened with

697
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: that relationship, Like why did they was the owner? I

698
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: don't know of Vikings fan here. The Donald conversation is

699
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: a valid one. I love winning games, and the argument

700
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: that we would be better off with Donald going forward

701
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: is true to an extent. But John did everyone forget

702
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: how he looked in the last two most important high

703
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: profile games played last season full pumpkin mode, first the

704
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Lions for the one seed and versus the Rams in

705
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: the playoff game. Even though O'Connell didn't run the ball.

706
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about this choke job he pulled off

707
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. We need to know

708
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: if our high first round pick can be the guy. Listen,

709
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I don't blame them for doing

710
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: what they did, but we're allowed to have the conversation

711
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: because you had to find out if JJ was going

712
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: to be the guy. But part of the conversation isn't like, well,

713
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Sam Donald can't win the big game? Can JJ even

714
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: get you there? Can JJ even play? Can JJ even

715
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: function as a starting quarterback? So it's like Sam's question

716
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: is hey, week eighteen two fourteen, win teams for the

717
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: number one seed, granted on the road? Can you win it?

718
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: And the answer is no, and he played really shitty.

719
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Would you have been there with JJ McCarthy. Well, last

720
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: year he couldn't because fucked up his knee, and this

721
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: year he's hurt again. So it's like I understand part

722
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: of the conversation, though, I would say if JJ has

723
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: been the backup and been healthy all season long and

724
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: just ben Sam's back up and been there, be like, Okay,

725
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: We've seen this with other guys. Not that crazy. The

726
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs literally did the same thing. They did not know.

727
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: But this guy had been hurt all season long and

728
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: needed a second knee surgery, and now he's hurt again.

729
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: So I I there's just a lot of variables. I'm

730
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: with you. It's not black and white, and it's not

731
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: as simple as some of these the way people talk

732
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: about it, and the conversation typically goes, it's not that simple.

733
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: But it's also did we overcome ok this a little bit.

734
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: A fairly strong NFL fan know a decent amount about football,

735
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: but I don't pretend to have a coach coordinator x's

736
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: and no's knowledge. With that being said, why the hell

737
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: on punt returns does the player not catch the ball

738
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: yet decide to stand literally one foot from it as

739
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: it's bouncing and rolling around while they're coverage, while they're

740
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: five coverage players standing right next to them. If you're

741
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: not gonna catch it, run away from the ball, if

742
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: it takes a funny bounce or rolls a certain way

743
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and hit your foot, it's a fumble that you are

744
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: not gonna get to me. That's common sense. Well, I

745
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: think a lot of the fake fair catch is well,

746
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: I guess in your example like if I'm fake fair

747
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: catching it and then I run away and so they

748
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: get around me and the ball is like four yards

749
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: behind me and bounc into the end zone. But I'm

750
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: with you. I think sometimes I'll defend these guys on

751
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: the simple fact that standing there as a punt returner

752
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: while several guys that run four fours are be lining

753
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: it at you. I do think sometimes you brain fart,

754
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, Like the if it touches you,

755
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be at a huge disadvantage. They are running

756
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: at the ball and you're usually at a stand still, right,

757
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 1: So I think some of these guys they also don't

758
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: know the decision till last second. They're kind of seeing

759
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: should I fair catch it? Should I not? Should I

760
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: let it bounce in the end zone? Think how often,

761
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we see this every week. Guys are catching

762
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: the ball at like the five yard line, Like what

763
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: are you doing? How do you not just have like

764
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: an immediate within the ten? Let it bounce anything outside

765
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: of the ten or twelve? And I think a lot

766
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: of these coaches say we do these guys just they

767
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: don't listen or they forget, and there's a lot going

768
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: on think of the guys typically being the punt returner too.

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00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: It's a backup. It's not a guy playing, so it's

770
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: like his only play and he's really amped up and

771
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: then maybe he just short circuits. I don't know, but

772
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: that play, I'm with you. It just happens a lot.

773
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I think it happens enough to know that clearly it's

774
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: really difficult. I've never caught a punt in the NFL

775
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: or in college. Hell. I remember when I was at

776
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Fresdent State even a little in the NFL, when you

777
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: would just be out there screwing around with the special

778
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: teams guys. Catching a punt's really really hard, it is.

779
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: These guys make it look way easier than it is.

780
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: So I think you're so focused on the ball that

781
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: sometimes you forget the strategy that you've been coached to do.

782
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: Whereas like a running back, it's like, hey, these are

783
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: the points that we're emphasizing on this run. Well, once

784
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: the ball is in my hand, I'm just kind of

785
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: going forward and just kind of muscle memory. With punts,

786
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: I just think it's a little more complicated than that.

787
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: For the Bucks this year, the final few minutes of

788
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: games have been pretty wild, and I'm sure Bucks fans

789
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: and I'm sure for Bucks fans, it's great to know

790
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: they have a team that can perform in such great stress. However,

791
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: if they continue winning the games like they have, does

792
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: there eventually come a point where we need to start

793
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: asking questions like why is it they need to keep

794
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: putting together last second drives to win a game when

795
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: even against not great teams, or why haven't they been

796
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: able to really handle any of these teams they've played. Listen,

797
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: you have years the Chiefs made the Super Bowl last

798
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: year where they were in all these type games and

799
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: sometimes remember the Kirk Cousins was Kevin O'Connell's first year

800
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: when they won twelve or thirteen games, they were like

801
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: ten to one in these type games. Every game kind

802
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: of looked like that, and they lost in the first

803
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: round against the Giants. So, you know, I think it's

804
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: pretty big. There are a lot of indicators, you know,

805
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: determine how good you are, right, like scoring defense yards

806
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: per play. I do think one that's pretty basic is

807
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: like your point differential. And if we look at point differentials,

808
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: like the Eagles is sixteen, the Colts is seventy four, Right,

809
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers is zero, the Broncos is thirty three, the

810
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Lions is sixty two. If I go to the Bucks,

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00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: there's a three. You know, the Niners is eight. Niners

812
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: are pulling games out of their ass. So it's like,

813
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: are the Niners really good? Eh, They're just winning some

814
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: close games. Now there's also football, like a close game

815
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: can turn into a loss with about bad bounce with

816
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: a guy stepping out of bounds. So yeah, when you

817
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: blow people out, like you know, the Chiefs and their

818
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: heyday or the Ravens a couple of years ago, it's

819
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: looks better, but it doesn't guarantee you anything in the

820
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: playoffs either way. Do you think that Kyler and the

821
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals would benefit from a divorce? Seems like the relationship

822
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: has run its course. I actually did I delete it.

823
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: I had a screenshot of a Kyler stat from the

824
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: other day that was like, I think his divisional record

825
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: in the NFC West is the lowest of any guy

826
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: in the history of a quarterback that got a second contract.

827
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: His winning percentage is like under thirty percent. And I

828
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: think the thing that makes Kyler so maddening it's kind

829
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: of like a version of Tua that you just keep

830
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: asking yourself, well, how do we upgrade? How do we upgrade?

831
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: And I think it gets back to like, you know,

832
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: you were making the playoffs a couple of years with Tua,

833
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: and it was clear when he was out the drop

834
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: off that would happen. I just think his style, whether

835
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: we like it or not, like it's very basic, right

836
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: under center in the pocket, get him quick throws, you know,

837
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: like a way lesser version of Jared Goff. Kyler's style

838
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: is hard to play with, right It's kind of a

839
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: run around backyard football thing. And when it's on it

840
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: looks awesome, but when it's off, it can look really

841
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: really shitty. And my overall take is like I'm kind

842
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: of out on guys that are really short, you know,

843
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: anyone that doesn't sniff six feet. Like I think it's

844
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: really really hard to play in the NFL. And Kyler

845
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: will go down as one of like the great athletes

846
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: of all time when he's drafted what ninth by the

847
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: A's and Billy Bean number one pick in the NFL,

848
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Like that's just that's unheard of stuff. Now, would he

849
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: been a big league baseball player, I don't know, but

850
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: he's definitely just an all time great athlete. But is

851
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: he a good quarterback? Like relative to the NFL, is

852
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: he a good quarterback? I think if we just talk

853
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: to ten defensive coordinators, like every dude in the NFC West,

854
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of guys that have played him

855
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, I think answers would

856
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: be all over the map. And I will actually wonder

857
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: if defensive coordinators would have more respect for him than

858
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, because defensive coordinator like, I don't know what's

859
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen to play to play, So maybe that's maybe

860
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: if I talk to offensive coordinators what they and I

861
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: would imagine to be pretty negative. Defensive coordinators actually might

862
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: like him more because he's in pain. But when you

863
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: say divorced, like, what does that mean? Who do they

864
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: replace him with? This is the two a thing like

865
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: who's coming out of college that you feel good about?

866
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: And then what do you do with him? What's his

867
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: trade value? Who would trade a second round pick for him?

868
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: Would that be his value? Third round pick? I don't

869
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: think you're getting as much as you think. Okay, it's

870
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: like we can trade him for two third round picks.

871
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, what do we do. Who plays quarterback

872
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: for us? Question for the Pod? Why is it Mark

873
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: Davis gets so much hate. I understand they haven't had

874
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: a lot of success since he took over, But Jen,

875
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I think he does stuff right. From what I can tell,

876
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: He's not a medaling owner. He hires guys unlets them

877
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: do the job he wants. Sta piloty. He gave Gruden

878
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: ten years and the NFL didn't go after him. Who

879
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: knows where they'd be. His biggest mistake was hiring McDaniels,

880
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: who let car go, and now we're in quarterback hell.

881
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: I'd argue not even interviewing Jim Harbaugh and just hiring

882
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: Pierce was bad too, But I don't think he would

883
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: have taken it anyway. What's your take. I just think

884
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: anytime that you shepherd a team that just consistently sucks

885
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: and you're the owner, like you're the only consistent thing.

886
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, John Gruden, Jack del Rio, Derek carr Gino

887
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: Smith Khalil Mack. You know it's just different, Max Crosby.

888
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: It's just since Mark Davis has on the team, they

889
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: have been really, really bad and very dysfunctional. I do

890
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: agree he tries and I also agree he aggressively tries

891
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: financially gave Gruden at the time was unprecedented one hundred

892
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: million dollars ten year contract. Like that was he had

893
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: to do what he had to do to get him

894
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: to sign up. You know, John Gruden's like, I really

895
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: wanted to be the Raiders coach? Did you really want

896
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: to be the Raider coach? Or did he give you

897
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars? Because if you really wanted, you

898
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: would have gladly done it five years, fifty million, right,

899
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: But you kind of used the bucks you played him,

900
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: which was his business one on one leverage, but like

901
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: you really want to do it because he gave you

902
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars. But you know, then he actively

903
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: went after Tom Brady and tried to get him involved.

904
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: So I'm in agreement that, you know, Mark has not

905
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: been cheap like some of these other owners, even though

906
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: up until Vegas lacked the funds that a lot of

907
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: guys had. But I do think he is just the

908
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: only thing that's consistently around since you know, twenty eleven, twelve,

909
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: and the outcomes tend to be the same. So it's

910
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: is it like, is he directly at fault, of course,

911
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: not right. Josh McDaniels chose to trade for DeVante Adams

912
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: and bench Dave Derek Carr and you know, did he

913
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: hire Antonio Pierce. I'll defend him on that. It's like

914
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: Max Crosby and DeVante Adams basically said, like, you gotta

915
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: do it or we want out, Like I probably would

916
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: have done it too. I don't think that one was

917
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: as crazy. Obviously Gruden he didn't control any of that.

918
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: The league didn't. Gruden's gonna sue them for a lot

919
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: of money and looks like he's gonna win. And to

920
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: me going after Brady, like, I give you credit on

921
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: that one, like he had to give up part of,

922
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, his percentage to let Brady buy in to

923
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: try to make the Raiders better. But I don't know.

924
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, when you just lose all the time, who's

925
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: supposed to blame? Like Pete Carroll's a winner. Pete Carroll's

926
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: a winner, and it's like, looks like he's going to

927
00:50:54,680 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: win like four games this year. I was listening to

928
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: Herd on Tuesday and it was completely flabbergasted by Collins

929
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: take on the Chiefs Jags game disclaimer. I'm not a

930
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: fan of either team, but in my opinion, he basically

931
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: gave the Chiefs credit for losing and discredited the Jags

932
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: on what I thought was a tough statement victory. He

933
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: gave Mahomes the excuse that he just didn't see Devin

934
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: Lloyd on the pick six and saying that the level

935
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: of good play from the Jags just isn't sustainable and

936
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are coming. I've been listening to Collins

937
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: for a long time now, and I have to say

938
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: this was one of the more wild ones I've heard

939
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: from I didn't hear that one. I'll say this, I

940
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: don't think the Jags are gonna sustain this. If Trevor

941
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Lawrence is gonna be this hit or miss, if he

942
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: plays like he played, I think they lose most of

943
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: those games. So and part of the I don't want

944
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: to say luck, but I mean that play at the

945
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: end of the game was kind of freaky lucky. I'm

946
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: bullish on the Chiefs as well, well, though, like they're

947
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: a nine to ten win team this year. Probably listen,

948
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: every once in a while you get a ten and

949
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: seven year, But I don't think the Jags are smoking

950
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: mirrors in the sense that their defense is really good,

951
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: and I agree Patrick Mahomes got greedy on the pass

952
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: like it was a bad pass. You can't throw a

953
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 1: red zone You can't throw a pick where the guy's

954
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: standing in the end zone. That's embarrassing for any player,

955
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: let alone an all time great player. He'd be the

956
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: first to tell you that it cannot happen. You cannot

957
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: turn the ball over right there. You can't throw a

958
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: pick six. I mean a pick six are his devastating,

959
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: especially a red zone pick six, which is a ten

960
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: plus point swing. I do believe the Chiefs look pretty good,

961
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: though defensively some question marks, but offensively they're gonna play

962
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: like this. They're gonna win a lot of games. The

963
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: Jags are clearly better, there's no disputing that. But I

964
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: just don't trust Trevor Lawrence, so I don't know all

965
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: what he said, but I would agree that Jags is sustainable.

966
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, when their quarterback he misses a lot of plays. Man,

967
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: he really does part of this business. Though, you gotta

968
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: throw some curveballs. You can't just come on and be

969
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: like Jags are winning the super Bowl. This seems like

970
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: another year where the Bills team is simply not good enough.

971
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: Alan is undeniable, and unlike Lamar, he actually plays really

972
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: well in the postseason. But year after year I feel

973
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: like he has the inferior roster and it cost them

974
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: every time against the Chiefs. Do you think the Bills

975
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: roster has been an issue or am I wrong? They've

976
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: been injured too. I mean last year the roster they

977
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: were rulling in the playoffs was pretty banged up. You know,

978
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: I think offensively they're probably they're stronger as like the

979
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: sum of their parts than they are as an individual basis.

980
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: You know, like no one would compare Khalil Shakir to

981
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase or DeVante Adams or Pooka Nakua

982
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: or some of these guys. But he's really good for them,

983
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: and Cook's really good. Dawkins's stud tight ends are good,

984
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: and then they kind of mismatch it with the the

985
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: rest of the wide receivers. But to me, it always

986
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: comes down like is their defense good enough in pass rush?

987
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: They got some players up front when it Oliver comes back,

988
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: their defensive line is good, but their back seven can

989
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: just be hit or missed in some of these games.

990
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: So a lot of his health I think they should

991
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: be heavily involved in like a defensive playmaker. If they

992
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: can add, whether it's another defensive lineman, whether it's a

993
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: linebacker or dB, they should be all over defense. What

994
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: does a team like Wisconsin do? They hired Fickle that

995
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: seemed like a home run, and he got the Cincinnati

996
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: team to the Final four, and now he can't even

997
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: win four games. Is it just not enough money or

998
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: is it coaching? I'd be lying if I watched a

999
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: lot of Wisconsin at this point. I mean, they really stink.

1000
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: We were talking about this. We have a little show

1001
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: meeting on Wednesday mornings just to kind of go over

1002
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: some logistics of different stuff for the podcast, and we

1003
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: were talking about Michigan State because they play UCLA this week,

1004
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: and like, there are only so many players to go around.

1005
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: So as your conference booms, right, Ohio State's always going

1006
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: to be good. But then we ebb and flow with

1007
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: some of the other programs. There have been years like

1008
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: when Cousins was there, that Michigan State had an incredible

1009
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: run for like four or five years. Was they went

1010
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. I think one year they were

1011
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: really really good. You know, Iowa's had years they've been

1012
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. Well, now you add Oregon, you

1013
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: had Washington and USC that you're all kind of recruiting

1014
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: the same players and the world is so flatten out.

1015
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: Well the top guys, the SEC, the ACC, the Big twelve,

1016
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: that not all these teams can be good. So like

1017
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: when Nebraska was unreal in the nineties, Like Oregon wasn't

1018
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: that great? You know, USC wasn't that good. Utah was

1019
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: irrelevant for them, right, they were like a Mountain West school,

1020
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: a Whax school. So I just think things Ebb and Flow.

1021
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: I can't speak to financially where they're at, but clearly

1022
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: they want to be good at football. It's a lot

1023
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: like Nebraska. I just wonder if in twenty twenty five

1024
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: it's not possible to be like what you once were.

1025
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: So can they be better? For sure? I thought Luke

1026
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: Fickle was pretty good as well as Cincinnati. Sometimes, though

1027
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: you have built in advantages pre nil at schools like Cincinnati.

1028
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: I would say that maybe I'm just reacting to the

1029
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: Twitter picture, but like, why not hire Mike McCarthy. He

1030
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: was at the game earlier this year with the ad

1031
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: like can you do better than that? See if he

1032
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: can infuse some life. He's clearly a really good offensive coach.

1033
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: I think if you or a quarterback, why would you

1034
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: not want to go play for Mike McCarthy Unlike Belichick?

1035
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, I see him on McAfee. He seems like

1036
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: a happy guy, seems like a positive guy, seems like

1037
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of good perspective. He's made a

1038
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: ton of money, so it's not like he gotta pay

1039
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: him ten million dollars a year. You play him like

1040
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: five or six, probably seven? Who knows? Feels like he

1041
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: knows a bunch of people could hire some coaches. To me,

1042
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Like who else you

1043
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: can hire? Because, like you said, Fickle made a bunch sense.

1044
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Midwest guy played at Ohio State, didn't resurrect Cincinnati was

1045
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: good before he got there, but kick dass Cincinnati a

1046
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: lot of times. That's the path, right, Like how did

1047
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: you find how did Washington find Chris Peterson dominated at

1048
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: Boise State? How did Florida find Urban Meyer dominated at Utah?

1049
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: You know? Usually I mean that's how you hit home runs?

1050
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Where did LSU find Nick Saban? Well he's at Michigan State.

1051
00:57:51,760 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't work. How would you feel about college

1052
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: football adding a transfer fee to compensate the smaller schools,

1053
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: any school to help them recover faster with new talent. Well,

1054
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: if I'm the big schools and I run the sport,

1055
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: why would I ever sign up to pay smaller schools

1056
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: to get their talent? Why do I care about them?

1057
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: And the answer is I don't, And that sounds terrible.

1058
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm a friend of State guy. But if

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm Oregon, why do I care? Frison State's mad that

1060
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: I took their player? Why do I care? If they

1061
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: are losing out on revenue because their team sucks, that's

1062
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: their problem. So I think the problem is the revenue

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: generating teams that run the sport, the power for teams.

1064
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: And really it's like twenty teams in college football, right,

1065
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: you just go west to east. You know, Oregon, USC,

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Texas now Texas, A and m Bama, Georgia, LSU, Michigan,

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: Florida State, Miami in Theory, Clemson. You know, it's a

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: group of like twelve thirteen schools. They don't give a

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: shit about the smaller schools. So if I'm Texas and

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00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: I can get action genty from Boise State. Why do

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00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: I need to compensate them? We're not in the same Like,

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00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: this is the problem with college football. We're not like

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00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: all under one umbrella. So if I'm in the Big

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00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: Ten or the SEC, why do I care about the

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00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: Mountain West. If I'm Oregon and I take Washington State's

1076
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: best player, like, that's Washington State and the PAC twelve

1077
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: Mountain West problem, not mine. So I think that's what

1078
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: makes that situation difficult. Wondering your thoughts on Sanchez and

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: potential impacts of c t E. I got a hard

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00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: time with that one. I don't know enough about, Like,

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01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: you know how many times he was hit? How many

1082
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: concussions the guy had? I looked once I saw this question.

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01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, he was sacked a fair amount of times

1084
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: in his career. The thing that just doesn't that up

1085
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: with Sanchez. It's like, why I'm interested to see the

1086
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: toxic toxicology report. It's like, even if you get blacked

1087
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: out drunk, and I'm not proud to say it, I've

1088
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: had a few of mine times of way too many. Actually,

1089
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: if you're not a violent, crazy person, like you're not

1090
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna find yourself in that situation. What I can't get over.

1091
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: Is if you're downtown having some seatails, hanging out with

1092
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: the Fox crew, and you get a cab ren uber

1093
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: ride back to the hotel, the Weston Hotel or the

1094
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: Marriott wherever' standing I've stayed in them all, you get

1095
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: dropped out in front of the lobby. So usually the

1096
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: loading dock is on the side, so for him to

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: make it over for the loading dock from the lobby,

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: unless he was leaving a hotel, it just it's why

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01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: I think he's got to be on drugs or it's

1100
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna come out like he's had crazy situations before that

1101
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: we just haven't heard about. I have a hard time

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: believing this is just a one off situation it was

1103
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: just because alcohol CTE. Like, then why wouldn't I'm sure

1104
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: he's had other instances where he's out drinking, and why

1105
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't he have had instances before. It's hard for me

1106
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: to get a guy that's never had an issue is

1107
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: an entire life at least that we know about, Like

1108
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: he's never been arrested or whatever, and all of a

1109
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: sudden he gets into a knife fight with a guy

1110
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: and just attacks a seven year old. It's one of

1111
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: the more bizarre stories of all time. And it's almost

1112
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: for his sake, it'd be better if it's like, yeah,

1113
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: CT lost his mind, didn't feel that way. It's why

1114
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: I think the best case scenario for him is, like,

1115
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, someone drugged him and he wasn't even in

1116
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: the right state. If it was like he was just

1117
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: drunk and he attacked this old guy, like I feel

1118
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: a little sympathy for anything that happens to Like if

1119
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: this old guy and his lawyers come after every single

1120
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: penny that Mark's ever made and makes Mark's children beg

1121
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: for that guy to give him money, you know, it's

1122
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: just like that. It's just a it's one of the

1123
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: crazier stories. Did I ever remember? No, I'm like on

1124
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: the field type story that involves the NFL because he's

1125
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: obviously in Indianapolis to call this game. But it almost

1126
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: feels too crazy, like there's something missing, but so far

1127
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: there hasn't been. It's just that he just attacked this

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01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: guy because he thought he shouldn't park there, and he

1129
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: asked the hotel managers, like, what the fuck are you

1130
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: talking about? Was this guy? Did he? Did he get roofied?

1131
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: I thought I've never been roofied. But I thought, doesn't

1132
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: that make you go to sleep? Did he do some

1133
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: bad drugs? Not a drug guy? So but even if

1134
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: you're doing like cocaine, are you just attacking a random

1135
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: driver in the dock? I don't know. It's just it's

1136
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: a bizarre, crazy story, and I hate just ah could

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: be ct I don't know. I have a hard time

1138
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: with that one. So all of a sudden, his brain

1139
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: stopped working and he's attacked this guy. But he's but

1140
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: he's never done this before in his entire life. No signs.

1141
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: Who knows. Maybe there have been signs, so maybe, who knows.

1142
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong. I don't even think I'm right or wrong.

1143
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't even have an opinion. I have no clue.

1144
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: I think the whole situation is just beyond sad. I

1145
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: mean that visual of the dude, which which looks like

1146
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: he got if were they battling with the knife was

1147
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: like a box cutter cut his mouth went in, you know,

1148
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: the knife went through his cheek. He goes Sue for

1149
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: a lot of cash. I mean, Fox is gonna have

1150
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: to pay a lot of money for this too, that

1151
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: they're they're involved, because Mark's Aaron has dime. Uh last question.

1152
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get a hundred of these dms. Impossible

1153
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: to remember them all, but I hope you played MATERR

1154
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Heisman forty five to one and Baker MVP forty to

1155
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: one back in the summer. I remember shooting you a

1156
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: mailbag question and your thoughts to me, Matier, I have

1157
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing him win the Heisman if he

1158
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: misses like a month. I could be wrong. I don't

1159
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: remember many Heisman Trophy winners missing a lot of time,

1160
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: so I know there were some rumors that he's going

1161
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: to try to play this week. But if you can't

1162
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: play this week, let's say he's out another game after this,

1163
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: which is very possibly had surgery on his hand. Now,

1164
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: if he comes back this week and technically only misses

1165
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: one game, lights him up and they keep winning one.

1166
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: Baker to me, I only saw it twenty five to

1167
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: one preseason, so maybe it was forty to one way

1168
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: back in the spring. I'd never do a future bet

1169
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: bat early, so I even I wouldn't have touched it,

1170
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: but I would say that if you did pick those,

1171
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: I'd feel better about Baker than John Mattire. But who

1172
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: are your other Heisman Trophy. Who's even in the X

1173
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: right now? More Slay Ty Simpson not not like it's

1174
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: not exactly Cam Newton and Johnny Manziel right now. Appreciate

1175
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: all the dms. Keep sliding in at John Middlecock firing

1176
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: those dams, and I will talk soon. Peace the volume

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Speaker 1: m