Speaker 1: Cam Smith played the golf. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I mean he did everything flawlessly today and the way
Speaker 1: he turned it around from yesterday is really impressive, because
Speaker 1: he had every right to be very discouraged after yesterday
Speaker 1: and he came out brave as hell today. Put another
Speaker 1: logo on the fire. Nobody hears get the time. Hello,
Speaker 1: this is Alan ship knock back for another fire drill podcast.
Speaker 1: We're in the lobby of the Russ as hotel a Jason,
Speaker 1: the Eighteenth Hole St Andrew's. Probably there's a first edition
Speaker 1: of to the links land in that bookies, did you
Speaker 1: get into your Mike? We Got Mike Terriko. What? I'm
Speaker 1: just traveling back home. It's just the fire pit. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're doing where's the fire and metaphorical has read all
Speaker 1: the books on this back show, every single one. I
Speaker 1: can do dramatic reading. So this, this town, feels like awake.
Speaker 1: They was all hoping for Rory. It feels like awake.
Speaker 1: It's strange. Cam Play, Tom Watson said when he didn't
Speaker 1: win the term bury that year at funeral. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Disco Hey and Cam Smith ain't no fooling around on
Speaker 1: the Greens man are we going talking heads where you
Speaker 1: can put there you go when you can play ten
Speaker 1: through fourteen and fifteen strokes on the on the inward
Speaker 1: nine on Sunday here on seven. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: asked him afterwards. On our ABC, interviewer said our NBC everyew.
Speaker 1: That's good, but I didn't do it on the air. Um,
Speaker 1: read your hat, dummy. I said, uh, what was of
Speaker 1: all the all the pots, what was the most important?
Speaker 1: He said the one on seventeen. He said that was
Speaker 1: first player, second one, because that first one, first one.
Speaker 1: Where do you think the chances is of US putting
Speaker 1: into the bunker from where he was? You good, me,
Speaker 1: guaranteed the experts. Well, the fire drill podcast just got
Speaker 1: more lively. Um, many of the movies and shakers of
Speaker 1: the Gulf world are at this hotel and they appear
Speaker 1: to be all checking out right now. So we'll see
Speaker 1: we can say hi some other surprise guests, like let's
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that. Just have somebody carry
Speaker 1: the bags. He's one of us. Yes, that was fun. Well,
Speaker 1: so Tariko. Um, he kind of set the scene here.
Speaker 1: Made a good I'd say both shots in Seventeen for
Speaker 1: Cam Smith let's start with Kim Smith, champion gone for
Speaker 1: the year. I mean, what an incredible performance that. There's
Speaker 1: three players who had to make a put on seventeen
Speaker 1: to win. And Open at St Andrew's in recent vintage
Speaker 1: George speed, chasing the Grand Slam, had an eight or
Speaker 1: ten footer missed it, lost the slam. Rory mcilroy, trying
Speaker 1: to get a victory that the whole world wanted him
Speaker 1: to have and foretold that he would he would take,
Speaker 1: missed a similar length putt on seventeen. Camp Smith jarred it.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy played absolutely flawless round of Golf.
Speaker 1: It was spectacular, it was air tight and something I
Speaker 1: said was completely wrong last night, and many things I
Speaker 1: say are completely wrong. But for and I talked to
Speaker 1: US caddy about this after the round, for to go
Speaker 1: south when you got the thirty six sold lead, you're
Speaker 1: in the last group on Saturday, you played bad, that
Speaker 1: guy usually will not come back and that guy totally
Speaker 1: came back today and that was absolutely spectacular round of golf. Uh,
Speaker 1: he did exactly what he needed to do it and
Speaker 1: really it brings to mind what what Justin Thomas did. Um,
Speaker 1: what what it follows the whole theme of the year
Speaker 1: guys stepping up when it when it really matters. Um
Speaker 1: to some little degree there's the pressure off because everyone's
Speaker 1: expecting Riy Macal round, but that was an air tight
Speaker 1: round of golf, just like Fitzpatrick Getting Eighteen Greens and
Speaker 1: winning Um at the country club, the US Open at
Speaker 1: the country club. Yeah, I mean it's really been this.
Speaker 1: You know, ry macawy called it. The major's season is
Speaker 1: over now and we we minted some stars. I mean
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler has gone to a different planet. Cam Smith
Speaker 1: to win the players and the open at the old
Speaker 1: I mean that's a plus plus Um. Justin Thomas. You
Speaker 1: hadn't one of major in five years. He needed that. You.
Speaker 1: You use the words save a like to describe Cam
Speaker 1: Smith yesterday, which there's no higher praise. Some of those
Speaker 1: some of those plays over this these four days were
Speaker 1: just absolutely gorgeous and so instinctive. What what do you
Speaker 1: like most about the way he plays the game? He's
Speaker 1: nothing like Sevy, for Christmas seven was the great charismatic
Speaker 1: figure my golfing life, but he is sevey like in
Speaker 1: terms of his ability to size up really complicated greenside
Speaker 1: shots use any number of different clubs, including putter, to
Speaker 1: play really difficult shots, read break like nobody's business and
Speaker 1: just put with tremendous comes to that Hook put, that
Speaker 1: Downhill Hook put that he made on was at the
Speaker 1: Friday round or the Saturday round? UH, yeah, five feet
Speaker 1: a break the putty hit up the hill on eighteen. UH,
Speaker 1: the chip put that he made on seventeen. How long
Speaker 1: did I wasn't close enough to see. How long was
Speaker 1: the put that he made on seventeen. Shoot, I mean
Speaker 1: to make a ten footer on seventeen. Not many guys
Speaker 1: have done it. You just outlined all the guys who
Speaker 1: didn't do it. UH, lots of guys have lots and
Speaker 1: lots and lots of athletic talent and of course short
Speaker 1: game takes athletic talent, but it takes artistry and sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't see it in a really big guy. You
Speaker 1: often see it in that body type. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: VJ didn't have it, or he didn't have it. Davis
Speaker 1: didn't have it. Phil did have it, uh for a while,
Speaker 1: and then he uh Nicholas had it in spades. But
Speaker 1: generally speaking, those long fingers and that narrow that chest
Speaker 1: and just sort of looks like he knows exactly what
Speaker 1: wants to do. It is a total pleasure to watch,
Speaker 1: no matter what you think him Smith's Mullett. I love it.
Speaker 1: And no matter what you think of his you know,
Speaker 1: sort of straightforward manner, he is a golfing God when
Speaker 1: it comes to short game. Yeah, that's that's well said.
Speaker 1: John Daly gave him a little shout out on twitter,
Speaker 1: like another another win for the mullets around the old course.
Speaker 1: I mean speaking for the entire golf world. I hope
Speaker 1: that's true. Um. So, yeah, Camp Smith. Now let's just
Speaker 1: acknowledge what's been a subplot in this Um our Matt Genella.
Speaker 1: On one of the practice rounds, a handful of guys
Speaker 1: were playing a practice round together, including Phil Nicholson. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were posing. The PILICON BRIDGE CAM was coming down
Speaker 1: the first way. He ran over to take a group
Speaker 1: photo with him and there'd already had been speculation that
Speaker 1: he was going to jump to live. Um. That kind
Speaker 1: of put it. You know, a lot of people saw
Speaker 1: that happen and that that sent it an overdrive. So, Um,
Speaker 1: in the moment we are in golf there's these these
Speaker 1: these geopolitical undertones to everything. So what would it mean
Speaker 1: if if the reigning open champ were to jump? From
Speaker 1: what you know about Cam do you see it happen?
Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on that. That that that's a
Speaker 1: so you're just an expert defender, just pairying Um. I
Speaker 1: mean for sure there's an offer on the table to
Speaker 1: Camp Smith and it probably just got another zero, because
Speaker 1: it would be monumental if they could snatch him up.
Speaker 1: And it's also, you know, we know this. This this
Speaker 1: background noise about or they can get world ranking points.
Speaker 1: Are these guys are gonna be able to play in
Speaker 1: the majors? Well, he just bunches taken to the next
Speaker 1: five majors, I mean all the majors in the next
Speaker 1: five years. That's a big deal. Yeah, and this forever.
Speaker 1: So for Camp Smith. Now he is reputed to be
Speaker 1: like a really down home dude, and Adam Scott told
Speaker 1: me a great word. I think Augusta called him um
Speaker 1: a boger, yeah, which is kind of like an affectionate
Speaker 1: Australian term for a redneck. He meant it. He was
Speaker 1: hailing him like he's just a simple guy who just
Speaker 1: wants to fish. You know, Smith said a couple last
Speaker 1: year that he just wants to play for a few
Speaker 1: more years and get money in the bank and retire.
Speaker 1: So he may. Maybe the living is the answer to
Speaker 1: his prayers. He gets the huge payday and he can't
Speaker 1: just walk away from the game. He doesn't have that
Speaker 1: enduring passion or Um, maybe because he's kind of a
Speaker 1: down home dude and the money doesn't matter. He's in
Speaker 1: his routine here. I don't know. What do we think
Speaker 1: about this? I just do not see this guy going
Speaker 1: to live and I do not read too much and
Speaker 1: a guy jumping over to Swolkenburg to if you get
Speaker 1: called over, you know, let's say there were half a
Speaker 1: dozen writers that were, uh, you know, on Swolkenburg Bridge
Speaker 1: and they called you over, would would you immediately come too?
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, you know, they worked for the competition
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. You just joined him. He's
Speaker 1: just a good old boy, as you just said, in
Speaker 1: his own way. So I don't read too much of
Speaker 1: that from I don't know him at all. I happen
Speaker 1: to cover his players win into here. I find his unpretentiousness, uh,
Speaker 1: in an area, in an era of extreme pretentiousness of
Speaker 1: golf on both sides of the held. To quote somebody,
Speaker 1: uh even use aisle, but anyway, on both sides there
Speaker 1: are five people on both sides. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what's going on in Golf, except that there is a
Speaker 1: personality type that's gonna go, and that personality type is
Speaker 1: not one who's really driven by the desire to win
Speaker 1: major championships at this stage. Like, if that's the foremost
Speaker 1: thing in your life, I don't think you're making that move.
Speaker 1: And now that he no matter where the conversation was
Speaker 1: up until today, now that he's won his first major
Speaker 1: and the grandest of majors and the grandest of settings,
Speaker 1: I think that would be a factor. He is, you know,
Speaker 1: he seems like he's not a big spender. He just
Speaker 1: made a big check because and he actually just made
Speaker 1: a big check for the rest of his life. He
Speaker 1: doesn't even realize that. Probably or or he might. I
Speaker 1: just don't see him going anywhere. Yeah, and I mean
Speaker 1: he's made a great run at Augusta. Like he's a
Speaker 1: clearly guy who could slash should win a green jacket.
Speaker 1: So you know if he's gonna if if he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Larino H OA type, who or Dat Coo
Speaker 1: and they said, I've only played to at a certain age,
Speaker 1: that I'm done. Like, if he's got that in his
Speaker 1: mind and he wants to make as much hay as possible,
Speaker 1: then the PG touris where you're gonna stay sharpest and
Speaker 1: probably give yourself the best chance to win those tournaments
Speaker 1: that people are gonna remember you forever. And he's going
Speaker 1: home to play in Australia later in the year and
Speaker 1: he's going to realize the magnitude of what he just
Speaker 1: did and it's going to be intoxicating, like wow, this
Speaker 1: is bigger than I thought, like he you know, I
Speaker 1: think part of Cam's genius is he keeps it simple.
Speaker 1: He just hits shots, tries to shoot the lowest score
Speaker 1: he can't and Adam up at the end and see
Speaker 1: what happens. But you win here, it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: he's gonna feel what that means to the larger golfing work,
Speaker 1: even if it means more to them than to him.
Speaker 1: And you know that's a really, really interesting point. Now
Speaker 1: part of Greg Norman as a global ambassador for golf.
Speaker 1: What is that? You Opens? Well, he was Greg Norman
Speaker 1: and throughout the United States just a great white shark.
Speaker 1: He played with a lot of Christmas. He played very aggressively.
Speaker 1: He was an exciting figure. Two American golfers, but as
Speaker 1: an Australian as soon as Drilian, who played in Asia
Speaker 1: a lot, those two open championships. So that he won is, you're,
Speaker 1: a huge thing. So to your point, when he goes
Speaker 1: home he's going to find out what this thing is
Speaker 1: all about. I think he will because, uh, those Australians
Speaker 1: venerates this open more than any of the other and
Speaker 1: then the other majors and he's gonna find out that
Speaker 1: Asia it beats it up to all right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the non champion Golfer over the year. Shout Out
Speaker 1: Cameron Young. I mean he played amazing at Southern Hills,
Speaker 1: which is a big time golf course. I mean that
Speaker 1: walk off Eagle today, like the guy shot sixty five
Speaker 1: in the second to last group. He played his ass off.
Speaker 1: I mean it was did yeah, I mean he's so close,
Speaker 1: it's a joke. Oh yeah, no, he he swings. There's
Speaker 1: no holding onto that club, he just lets it go.
Speaker 1: I mean it's fun to watch. How does your backfield
Speaker 1: after watching this guy makes some swings? Um Tight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he looks like you heard himself. I don't
Speaker 1: see guys swinging that hard for that long and not
Speaker 1: getting hurt. But it was very, very impressive to watch today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fun to see where he goes
Speaker 1: from here. Um. I was, of course, referring to the
Speaker 1: tragic hero of the day, Roy mcelroy. Um. Everybody wanted
Speaker 1: him to get this. It just almost it was in
Speaker 1: the stars. You know, he seems like he's a foot
Speaker 1: taller than he was a few months ago, the way
Speaker 1: he's taken on this ambassadorship of the game and this
Speaker 1: long drought. There's him Das if we can only get
Speaker 1: rope him in anyway. Um, Himi, we're podcasting. You want
Speaker 1: to get over here? Come here. No, get over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: drop your back sports stand right here. Yep, this, this, this,
Speaker 1: I mean these are two greatest living golf writers and Canute,
Speaker 1: my wife says, no one looks better in a suit
Speaker 1: and him. Look at the man. He looks like he's
Speaker 1: in his early fifties. I get more compliments from bambergers.
Speaker 1: How about the note taking that we observed this week?
Speaker 1: After thirty years of watching home at work, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize the depth of the note taking. And also there's
Speaker 1: no book. In other words, they're all loose sheets. How
Speaker 1: do you keep it straight? It's only the last thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: That's as long as my memory list. I'm writing all
Speaker 1: the time, like the Guy Memento he wrote on yeah, right,
Speaker 1: keep it all together. You keep all those like they're
Speaker 1: all files. It's wonderful, alright, I burn them, Um, all right,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna let you go. Just give us
Speaker 1: one thought on the day with the tragic hero rory.
Speaker 1: You know, I think rory is going to be very resilient.
Speaker 1: I really feel like he's still, don't, undergoing the education
Speaker 1: of a Golfer. I mean he's thirty three, I know,
Speaker 1: and it seems like he's already had a great prime,
Speaker 1: but I still think the best is yet to come.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you're really good. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: just get you're heartbroken by being in contention. Things happen.
Speaker 1: I mean happened to Nicholas, happened to Palmer, happened you know, Watson.
Speaker 1: It's happened. We've seen it ourselves. I mean Stewart's saying,
Speaker 1: Tom Watson, you know Billy Casper Donold Palmer, Tom Watson
Speaker 1: and Jack Nicholas. It just part of the game and yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem fair and it looked like it was his,
Speaker 1: the storybook was his, but Cam Smith played the golf
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I mean he did everything
Speaker 1: flawlessly today and the way he turned it around from
Speaker 1: yesterday is really impressive because he had every right to
Speaker 1: be very discouraged after yesterday and he came out brave
Speaker 1: as hell today. And then it just felt like he
Speaker 1: was playing offensive. Growers Playing Defense. I think when you're leading,
Speaker 1: I think he felt he was in control. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to make a mistake and that's when he's done
Speaker 1: a lot. So he's gotten a little more conservative, which
Speaker 1: I think has been better overall, but in that situation
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was just missing that that extra
Speaker 1: kind of willpower to put it away. But when the
Speaker 1: PUTTS aren't going in and put you on the defensive,
Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of good putts that
Speaker 1: didn't go in and then the one on three. I
Speaker 1: thought that started a bad trend for the day because
Speaker 1: he could have taken a lead there and he played
Speaker 1: the whole perfectly and he walked away and who knows?
Speaker 1: It just puts out in your mind and that's enough
Speaker 1: when you're not putting well, doesn't he walk away from
Speaker 1: the Shertman feeling very good about how he played, even
Speaker 1: this F throwned? I think so. I drove it great
Speaker 1: and the irons weren't perfect, but they were always yeah,
Speaker 1: but he played. I mean, look at he hit eighteen greens.
Speaker 1: I know that the biggest Greens in the world, but
Speaker 1: still there was no mistake. I mean he's Roy has
Speaker 1: been renowned for making bad mistakes at the wrong time.
Speaker 1: You know, the soft bogey, the one that he made
Speaker 1: some soft pars today, but they weren't, you know, anything
Speaker 1: that he should be ashamed of. Uh, I felt like
Speaker 1: he has grown as a player. It just wasn't quite enough.
Speaker 1: This is really more out of the dristion of of
Speaker 1: Jack being getting. I mean Jack's Got Nineteen winner ups.
Speaker 1: Of course wasn't where. He wasn't technically the run up today,
Speaker 1: but it's still sort of the same things that Jack's
Speaker 1: gonna play. Jack's game. If Lee Tramino or Hubert Green
Speaker 1: or somebody goes crazy, well, what can I do about it?
Speaker 1: I'm playing my game. And I think rory can really
Speaker 1: leave this town with his head high. I think. I
Speaker 1: think it was an outstanding four days of golf and
Speaker 1: he's represented golf extremely well. Would you agree? I would
Speaker 1: agree with that. You know, he isn't Jack. Jack had
Speaker 1: a history of winning that gave him a definite, you know,
Speaker 1: sense of almost in permeability when he did have bad breaks,
Speaker 1: you know, because he said, well, the law of averages
Speaker 1: in my favor. Rory hasn't gotten to that point where
Speaker 1: the love of average are quite in his favor, but
Speaker 1: I think he is growing as a Golfer and I
Speaker 1: love that he seems more energized than he's been in
Speaker 1: a long time. I think this, you know. I think
Speaker 1: even his relationship with tiger is encouraging, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean that's helped Dustin Thomas. I just think he sees
Speaker 1: even just being around him a little bit like plane
Speaker 1: at bally bunny and I think it just gives him
Speaker 1: a different perspective. When I first met Rory, he knew
Speaker 1: more about tiger as far as his record than almost anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had the exact same experience. It's still
Speaker 1: it's still good to be emulating him, even in Tiger's twilight. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean in your experience, when guys get so involved
Speaker 1: on the political side of Golf, you know, going back
Speaker 1: to Bob Goldby and Jack in the sixties, and now,
Speaker 1: it seems to say, with word, serving on, serving on
Speaker 1: committees and becoming a spokesman for the game. What is
Speaker 1: that helpful hurtful to your game? What I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this with rory because he's so other directed. I
Speaker 1: think he's almost more motivated to do it for others
Speaker 1: than it is from self. And right now I think
Speaker 1: he kind of represents a cause because of live golf
Speaker 1: being so, so much a threat, and I think that
Speaker 1: helped him at the Canadian Open. And you know there's
Speaker 1: rumors about Camp Smith going to live so he may
Speaker 1: have felt the burden of that. But at the same
Speaker 1: time I also thought as extra motivation that doesn't put
Speaker 1: as much pressure on him as wanting to do it
Speaker 1: for himself. For some reason he seems like he can
Speaker 1: lose himself in a bigger cause. Might be making too
Speaker 1: much out of it, but that he definitely seemed to
Speaker 1: be that way when he went to Canada. You know, well,
Speaker 1: let's get back in here one second, but just a pout.
Speaker 1: I'm just enjoying listening to me one of the you know,
Speaker 1: I think all three of us a poultroy very closely
Speaker 1: really his entire career is noting about what thirteen or
Speaker 1: so years now. Uh, the crying episode at the Ryder
Speaker 1: Cup really surprised me. I didn't really know what could
Speaker 1: be the emotional thing in his life that would trigger that.
Speaker 1: Really having but so having that fresh in my mind,
Speaker 1: seeing him really performed at the highest level for four days,
Speaker 1: carrying really the weight of the PGA tour and Jay
Speaker 1: Monahan's expectations and tigers expected sations and being totally emotionally
Speaker 1: in control, I take that as a very big positive
Speaker 1: for where where he is and his emotional life. And
Speaker 1: you know, as we all know, and I think we
Speaker 1: would all agree, your emotional life and your golfing life
Speaker 1: they're very much connected. I think his emotional life is strong.
Speaker 1: Now he's still got to improve technically, you know, just
Speaker 1: be a little better putter and make that an obsession.
Speaker 1: Get better. It's not a lot and the chipping today
Speaker 1: was just good. I give it a B minus. He
Speaker 1: needed to hit some chips clip stiff, you know, like
Speaker 1: like Camp Smith did get the easy body and that
Speaker 1: would have broken the ice. So it's small margins, but
Speaker 1: you know, he's still growing as a player. He used
Speaker 1: to think if I drive it great, I'll beat anybody,
Speaker 1: and that no longer is the case. The game has evolved.
Speaker 1: These guys are more complete players now and you just
Speaker 1: can't overpower everybody. You have to have the rest of
Speaker 1: the game and he's learned that kind of late because
Speaker 1: to some extent he was spoiled by winning two of
Speaker 1: them by eight shots. You know, I think that motivation
Speaker 1: to get better was lessened because of that. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're playing, of course you know really well. Like
Speaker 1: it goes to national and it's like, okay, well, I
Speaker 1: know when to get the third teen. I'm gonna hit
Speaker 1: that into what have you. Know, chance or your goals
Speaker 1: should make it too. But, Bertie Um, you're you're sort
Speaker 1: of playing chess like Nicholas talked about this all the time.
Speaker 1: But do you think right? Do you think today with
Speaker 1: you know especially, seventeen is always seventeen is always the
Speaker 1: possible to making a five. There you're probably gonna make
Speaker 1: it four. Do you think he's sort of always calculting
Speaker 1: in his mind, even if I'm only tied going to
Speaker 1: the seventies. Second Tea, I can make a three in
Speaker 1: eight cheen and you can but take in a campus Smith.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good way to go. How
Speaker 1: about the changes in the in the game and how
Speaker 1: this golf course has stood up? I was amazed. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, a skeptic, healthy skeptic, about St Andrew's probably
Speaker 1: being outmoded this year sort of being exposed. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't even windy and it held up beautifully. Now I
Speaker 1: know they used a lot of uh or sorry, whole
Speaker 1: positions that were that they never used. They were extreme,
Speaker 1: but I just think the nature of the golf course
Speaker 1: keeps it from being easy to control. You know, there's
Speaker 1: just so much variation and so much capriciousness where, you know,
Speaker 1: the Greens have so much undulation. It's just if you
Speaker 1: don't hit it close, which is hard to do, it's
Speaker 1: hard to make putts. So the birdies have to come
Speaker 1: on these drivable holes and on the and the par fives,
Speaker 1: and even that is problematic because when the ball rolls
Speaker 1: up there you're still gonna have some kind of crazy
Speaker 1: put or some kind of crazy chip and so I
Speaker 1: just thought it was charming. Yeah, senators, gets a past
Speaker 1: a little bit because a lot of the approaches are
Speaker 1: like less than sixty yards, but as a stage and
Speaker 1: as a place where interesting golf is played, maybe not
Speaker 1: power golf, but interesting golf, it's almost unsurpassed. I thought
Speaker 1: it held up. I mean, I want to come back,
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't feel like this is the in
Speaker 1: St Andrews. In a way it's a new beginning. I
Speaker 1: think now we should let you go, hime, because you
Speaker 1: look like your man in in a hurry. But thank
Speaker 1: you for stopping by. A privilege and it's great to
Speaker 1: be with you guys always. It was funcy and you
Speaker 1: guys at dinner the other night and good luck and
Speaker 1: congratulations and everything you guys have already done. So that's awesome. Okay, alright, SA, trouble.
Speaker 1: All Right, see if you guy. We've talked about the
Speaker 1: three people that matter today, rory, mcelroy, Cam Smith, Cam
Speaker 1: young and also him media and Mike Rico. That was
Speaker 1: fun as well. Um, and this is the serendipity of
Speaker 1: being in St Andrew's, like we're just literally sitting in
Speaker 1: a hotel lobby and all the people keep wondering by.
Speaker 1: We we almost sang hide poulaising here, but he begged off.
Speaker 1: Justin Leonard Errolman, John Wood, the former caddy now TV guy,
Speaker 1: we talked about all week. It's been it's been a
Speaker 1: great week for both of us. We're lucky to be
Speaker 1: doing this. It's funny be doing it together. What are
Speaker 1: your final thoughts? Just put a bow on this whole thing, Michael,
Speaker 1: this this wouldn't be because I know you have a
Speaker 1: very good counter argument to him me, because you made
Speaker 1: it to me earlier in the week about well, what
Speaker 1: about second shots into seventeen? In other words, there is
Speaker 1: something missing here because of the ball. Uh, because, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say, but I was a little surposed
Speaker 1: to hear behind me say what he said in a
Speaker 1: manner of speaking. Camp Smith almost had to be the
Speaker 1: winner because he's the one who's got the most queenside
Speaker 1: game of anybody in the field. Best Short putter, best
Speaker 1: lag putter, best tripper. But we didn't have really nasty
Speaker 1: bunker shots like you expected. You know, Rory did hold out,
Speaker 1: hold on a bunker shut. It's hard for me to say,
Speaker 1: but it didn't really play. Even if you go back
Speaker 1: to even if you go back to just two thousand
Speaker 1: and fifteen, two thousand and ten, certainly one daily wanted
Speaker 1: no different weather changes. Thing, the roof wasn't up. But
Speaker 1: I think, I think you'd have to say the old
Speaker 1: course was assaulted this week, not just the winning score,
Speaker 1: twenty under, but the clubs that people were hitting into
Speaker 1: into part four's. Yeah, I agree that, and also the
Speaker 1: amount of rough that they've grown up out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: this place is supposed to be a race track. It's
Speaker 1: the BALLSTON run forever and they've they've got all this
Speaker 1: knee high rough in places that never used to be. Um,
Speaker 1: I agree what you're saying, Michael it it was a
Speaker 1: fun show, but there was never really an element of
Speaker 1: day danger. You know, they were just like because these
Speaker 1: guys that they're driving it so close to the green,
Speaker 1: either they're gonna hit a great shot or a good
Speaker 1: shot and be six FT, they're gonna be twenty five Ft.
Speaker 1: but and you know the Greens aren't that fast, so
Speaker 1: there's very few three puts and even putting down the
Speaker 1: hill there. They just it was a little sad for
Speaker 1: me to see it. You're watching all I walked all
Speaker 1: the teen holes with Rory and you know, he he
Speaker 1: really didn't. He didn't make a single put all day.
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything special. He didn't hit any like
Speaker 1: amazing shot and he shot to wonder and it was
Speaker 1: like the absolutely the worst he could have shot. Like
Speaker 1: he just kind of he just kind of plotted his
Speaker 1: way around and if you, if you, if you played
Speaker 1: this round of golf on a, you know, a tougher test,
Speaker 1: you probably would have gotten blown out a lot sooner.
Speaker 1: Like I think he might have been exposed. But there
Speaker 1: for these players, they can just navigate their way around
Speaker 1: so easily. I mean there's there's four or five drive
Speaker 1: all part four's, there's the part five, the roadholer hitting
Speaker 1: wedges into I mean there's just not the sense of
Speaker 1: danger and so it just felt like I hear what
Speaker 1: Himi is saying, uh, sorry about those beeps. I try
Speaker 1: to turn off. I couldn't figure it out. I hear
Speaker 1: what IIMIE is saying, and it is charmed city and
Speaker 1: some of the shots around the Greens are so incredibly
Speaker 1: fun to watch, but it's kind of like that's all
Speaker 1: it is, driver and shots around the green. There wasn't
Speaker 1: much else in between, I mean following it, following this
Speaker 1: less round as we did, being on the course the
Speaker 1: entire day. It didn't have that intense level of anxiety
Speaker 1: that we associate with with with open championships. Are Really
Speaker 1: any major any major title? Michael, your point is very
Speaker 1: well taken. I mean the RNI did everything they could's
Speaker 1: just although they haven't because they have a fiduciary duty
Speaker 1: to regulate the sport as the governing body for the
Speaker 1: entire world minus the US, and they've been asleep at
Speaker 1: the wheel for twenty or thirty years, going back to
Speaker 1: the big Bertha and everything else. and Um, we've just
Speaker 1: we've just reached a point where we've got eight years
Speaker 1: to figure out if they come back to the old course.
Speaker 1: Someone has to get figured out, because is it's sort
Speaker 1: of untenable. Like the game, the players are gonna be
Speaker 1: bigger and faster and stronger. They're gonna be more and
Speaker 1: more optimized. You know, they're already doing things that that
Speaker 1: Jack and and Arnie and Tom Watson never imagine in
Speaker 1: the gym with technology, with their diets, with, you know,
Speaker 1: their sleep APPs and their meditation, all this stuff. Like
Speaker 1: the athletes are just getting better and they're playing the
Speaker 1: game at a higher level as in every sports. No,
Speaker 1: it's not, not, it's not golf's fault, I mean, and
Speaker 1: things just evolve and unfortunately these ancient playing fields can
Speaker 1: only evolve so much and I think we saw it
Speaker 1: this week that we're gonna have someone's gonna have to change.
Speaker 1: I've got nothing to add to that. Very smart man. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: it was one hell of a week here Um, in
Speaker 1: St Andrews. We deeply appreciate all of you coming along
Speaker 1: for this journey. We have to give a shout out
Speaker 1: to the RUSTICK's hotel. We are in there lobby right
Speaker 1: now and I'm thinking about stealing that that old Tom
Speaker 1: Morris painting. I don't know if I'll fit in my
Speaker 1: golf bag, but it's been a it was a great
Speaker 1: home for us this week. Um, we'll mentor other sponsors
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Speaker 1: that's it. Oh, well, links. So of course. Yeah, links.
Speaker 1: So are are you know that give us clothes to where. Um,
Speaker 1: they literally it's like the shirt off my back. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's we set it all week long. It's a privilege
Speaker 1: to be here. It was. It was way too much fun.
Speaker 1: and Oh there's brandles, so we try and Ropen brandle.
Speaker 1: Let's not know. We're done. Honestly, we have Michael Bamberer,
Speaker 1: have high medias. We don't need brandle. Sorry, Brandon, you're out. Um,
Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. It was a pleasure to serve.
Speaker 1: And no more fire drills for a little while. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have breaking news and we have things
Speaker 1: we're gonna chew on. Probably live golf, BUT FEDEX ONE MEMPHIS. Um,
Speaker 1: the term swamp ass was invented in Memphis. I think
Speaker 1: we're probably not gonna be covering that tournament, but Um, we'll.
Speaker 1: We'll come back on as as we need to. What
Speaker 1: can you tell us about Ryan French this week? Well,
Speaker 1: he's having a heck of a week and I'd be
Speaker 1: shout out to the fire pit collective. We've got guys
Speaker 1: the Reno talk how open and the old course and
Speaker 1: we blasted out obscene amount of content. If there's anyone
Speaker 1: on the earth who's listened to every podcast from here
Speaker 1: and there and read every story. Show yourself and we'll
Speaker 1: send you a hat, because it has been a flood
Speaker 1: of content. It's it's really it's awesome to be part
Speaker 1: of all this so um for the third or fourth
Speaker 1: time I can try and end this podcast. Michael, let
Speaker 1: my people go and again thanks for listening and we'll
Speaker 1: be back at you soon. This is Allen Schip nut
Speaker 1: for Michael Bamberger from St Andrew's were out put another
Speaker 1: log on the fire. Nobody hears get the time