1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Cam Smith played the golf. What are you gonna do? 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean he did everything flawlessly today and the way 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: he turned it around from yesterday is really impressive, because 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: he had every right to be very discouraged after yesterday 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: and he came out brave as hell today. Put another 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: logo on the fire. Nobody hears get the time. Hello, 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: this is Alan ship knock back for another fire drill podcast. 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: We're in the lobby of the Russ as hotel a Jason, 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: the Eighteenth Hole St Andrew's. Probably there's a first edition 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: of to the links land in that bookies, did you 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: get into your Mike? We Got Mike Terriko. What? I'm 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: just traveling back home. It's just the fire pit. Yes, 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: we're doing where's the fire and metaphorical has read all 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: the books on this back show, every single one. I 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: can do dramatic reading. So this, this town, feels like awake. 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: They was all hoping for Rory. It feels like awake. 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: It's strange. Cam Play, Tom Watson said when he didn't 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: win the term bury that year at funeral. That's exactly right. 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Disco Hey and Cam Smith ain't no fooling around on 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: the Greens man are we going talking heads where you 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: can put there you go when you can play ten 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: through fourteen and fifteen strokes on the on the inward 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: nine on Sunday here on seven. Oh my gosh, I 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: asked him afterwards. On our ABC, interviewer said our NBC everyew. 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: That's good, but I didn't do it on the air. Um, 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: read your hat, dummy. I said, uh, what was of 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: all the all the pots, what was the most important? 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: He said the one on seventeen. He said that was 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: first player, second one, because that first one, first one. 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Where do you think the chances is of US putting 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: into the bunker from where he was? You good, me, 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: guaranteed the experts. Well, the fire drill podcast just got 33 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: more lively. Um, many of the movies and shakers of 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: the Gulf world are at this hotel and they appear 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: to be all checking out right now. So we'll see 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: we can say hi some other surprise guests, like let's 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that. Just have somebody carry 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: the bags. He's one of us. Yes, that was fun. Well, 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: so Tariko. Um, he kind of set the scene here. 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Made a good I'd say both shots in Seventeen for 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: Cam Smith let's start with Kim Smith, champion gone for 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: the year. I mean, what an incredible performance that. There's 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: three players who had to make a put on seventeen 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: to win. And Open at St Andrew's in recent vintage 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: George speed, chasing the Grand Slam, had an eight or 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: ten footer missed it, lost the slam. Rory mcilroy, trying 47 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: to get a victory that the whole world wanted him 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: to have and foretold that he would he would take, 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: missed a similar length putt on seventeen. Camp Smith jarred it. 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean the guy played absolutely flawless round of Golf. 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: It was spectacular, it was air tight and something I 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: said was completely wrong last night, and many things I 53 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: say are completely wrong. But for and I talked to 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: US caddy about this after the round, for to go 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: south when you got the thirty six sold lead, you're 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: in the last group on Saturday, you played bad, that 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: guy usually will not come back and that guy totally 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: came back today and that was absolutely spectacular round of golf. Uh, 59 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: he did exactly what he needed to do it and 60 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: really it brings to mind what what Justin Thomas did. Um, 61 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: what what it follows the whole theme of the year 62 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: guys stepping up when it when it really matters. Um 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: to some little degree there's the pressure off because everyone's 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: expecting Riy Macal round, but that was an air tight 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: round of golf, just like Fitzpatrick Getting Eighteen Greens and 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: winning Um at the country club, the US Open at 67 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: the country club. Yeah, I mean it's really been this. 68 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, ry macawy called it. The major's season is 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: over now and we we minted some stars. I mean 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler has gone to a different planet. Cam Smith 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: to win the players and the open at the old 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's a plus plus Um. Justin Thomas. You 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: hadn't one of major in five years. He needed that. You. 74 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: You use the words save a like to describe Cam 75 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Smith yesterday, which there's no higher praise. Some of those 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: some of those plays over this these four days were 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: just absolutely gorgeous and so instinctive. What what do you 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: like most about the way he plays the game? He's 79 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: nothing like Sevy, for Christmas seven was the great charismatic 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: figure my golfing life, but he is sevey like in 81 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: terms of his ability to size up really complicated greenside 82 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: shots use any number of different clubs, including putter, to 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: play really difficult shots, read break like nobody's business and 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: just put with tremendous comes to that Hook put, that 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: Downhill Hook put that he made on was at the 86 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Friday round or the Saturday round? UH, yeah, five feet 87 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: a break the putty hit up the hill on eighteen. UH, 88 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the chip put that he made on seventeen. How long 89 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: did I wasn't close enough to see. How long was 90 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: the put that he made on seventeen. Shoot, I mean 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: to make a ten footer on seventeen. Not many guys 92 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: have done it. You just outlined all the guys who 93 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: didn't do it. UH, lots of guys have lots and 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: lots and lots of athletic talent and of course short 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: game takes athletic talent, but it takes artistry and sometimes 96 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: you don't see it in a really big guy. You 97 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: often see it in that body type. Uh. You know, 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: VJ didn't have it, or he didn't have it. Davis 99 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: didn't have it. Phil did have it, uh for a while, 100 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: and then he uh Nicholas had it in spades. But 101 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: generally speaking, those long fingers and that narrow that chest 102 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: and just sort of looks like he knows exactly what 103 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: wants to do. It is a total pleasure to watch, 104 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: no matter what you think him Smith's Mullett. I love it. 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: And no matter what you think of his you know, 106 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: sort of straightforward manner, he is a golfing God when 107 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: it comes to short game. Yeah, that's that's well said. 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: John Daly gave him a little shout out on twitter, 109 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: like another another win for the mullets around the old course. 110 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean speaking for the entire golf world. I hope 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: that's true. Um. So, yeah, Camp Smith. Now let's just 112 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge what's been a subplot in this Um our Matt Genella. 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: On one of the practice rounds, a handful of guys 114 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: were playing a practice round together, including Phil Nicholson. Uh, 115 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: they were posing. The PILICON BRIDGE CAM was coming down 116 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the first way. He ran over to take a group 117 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: photo with him and there'd already had been speculation that 118 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: he was going to jump to live. Um. That kind 119 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: of put it. You know, a lot of people saw 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: that happen and that that sent it an overdrive. So, Um, 121 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: in the moment we are in golf there's these these 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: these geopolitical undertones to everything. So what would it mean 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: if if the reigning open champ were to jump? From 124 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: what you know about Cam do you see it happen? 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on that. That that that's a 126 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: so you're just an expert defender, just pairying Um. I 127 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: mean for sure there's an offer on the table to 128 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Camp Smith and it probably just got another zero, because 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: it would be monumental if they could snatch him up. 130 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: And it's also, you know, we know this. This this 131 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: background noise about or they can get world ranking points. 132 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Are these guys are gonna be able to play in 133 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the majors? Well, he just bunches taken to the next 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: five majors, I mean all the majors in the next 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: five years. That's a big deal. Yeah, and this forever. 136 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: So for Camp Smith. Now he is reputed to be 137 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: like a really down home dude, and Adam Scott told 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: me a great word. I think Augusta called him um 139 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: a boger, yeah, which is kind of like an affectionate 140 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: Australian term for a redneck. He meant it. He was 141 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: hailing him like he's just a simple guy who just 142 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: wants to fish. You know, Smith said a couple last 143 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: year that he just wants to play for a few 144 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: more years and get money in the bank and retire. 145 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: So he may. Maybe the living is the answer to 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: his prayers. He gets the huge payday and he can't 147 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: just walk away from the game. He doesn't have that 148 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: enduring passion or Um, maybe because he's kind of a 149 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: down home dude and the money doesn't matter. He's in 150 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: his routine here. I don't know. What do we think 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: about this? I just do not see this guy going 152 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: to live and I do not read too much and 153 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: a guy jumping over to Swolkenburg to if you get 154 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: called over, you know, let's say there were half a 155 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: dozen writers that were, uh, you know, on Swolkenburg Bridge 156 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: and they called you over, would would you immediately come too? 157 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, you know, they worked for the competition 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. You just joined him. He's 159 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: just a good old boy, as you just said, in 160 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: his own way. So I don't read too much of 161 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: that from I don't know him at all. I happen 162 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: to cover his players win into here. I find his unpretentiousness, uh, 163 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: in an area, in an era of extreme pretentiousness of 164 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: golf on both sides of the held. To quote somebody, 165 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: uh even use aisle, but anyway, on both sides there 166 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: are five people on both sides. I don't even know 167 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: what's going on in Golf, except that there is a 168 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: personality type that's gonna go, and that personality type is 169 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: not one who's really driven by the desire to win 170 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: major championships at this stage. Like, if that's the foremost 171 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: thing in your life, I don't think you're making that move. 172 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: And now that he no matter where the conversation was 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: up until today, now that he's won his first major 174 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: and the grandest of majors and the grandest of settings, 175 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: I think that would be a factor. He is, you know, 176 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: he seems like he's not a big spender. He just 177 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: made a big check because and he actually just made 178 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a big check for the rest of his life. He 179 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: doesn't even realize that. Probably or or he might. I 180 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: just don't see him going anywhere. Yeah, and I mean 181 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: he's made a great run at Augusta. Like he's a 182 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: clearly guy who could slash should win a green jacket. 183 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: So you know if he's gonna if if he's like, 184 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, Larino H OA type, who or Dat Coo 185 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: and they said, I've only played to at a certain age, 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that I'm done. Like, if he's got that in his 187 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: mind and he wants to make as much hay as possible, 188 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: then the PG touris where you're gonna stay sharpest and 189 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: probably give yourself the best chance to win those tournaments 190 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: that people are gonna remember you forever. And he's going 191 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: home to play in Australia later in the year and 192 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: he's going to realize the magnitude of what he just 193 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: did and it's going to be intoxicating, like wow, this 194 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: is bigger than I thought, like he you know, I 195 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: think part of Cam's genius is he keeps it simple. 196 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: He just hits shots, tries to shoot the lowest score 197 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: he can't and Adam up at the end and see 198 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: what happens. But you win here, it's it's a it's 199 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna feel what that means to the larger golfing work, 200 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: even if it means more to them than to him. 201 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: And you know that's a really, really interesting point. Now 202 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: part of Greg Norman as a global ambassador for golf. 203 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: What is that? You Opens? Well, he was Greg Norman 204 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: and throughout the United States just a great white shark. 205 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: He played with a lot of Christmas. He played very aggressively. 206 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: He was an exciting figure. Two American golfers, but as 207 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: an Australian as soon as Drilian, who played in Asia 208 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: a lot, those two open championships. So that he won is, you're, 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: a huge thing. So to your point, when he goes 210 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: home he's going to find out what this thing is 211 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: all about. I think he will because, uh, those Australians 212 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: venerates this open more than any of the other and 213 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: then the other majors and he's gonna find out that 214 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: Asia it beats it up to all right, let's talk 215 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: about the non champion Golfer over the year. Shout Out 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: Cameron Young. I mean he played amazing at Southern Hills, 217 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: which is a big time golf course. I mean that 218 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: walk off Eagle today, like the guy shot sixty five 219 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: in the second to last group. He played his ass off. 220 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was did yeah, I mean he's so close, 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: it's a joke. Oh yeah, no, he he swings. There's 222 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: no holding onto that club, he just lets it go. 223 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's fun to watch. How does your backfield 224 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: after watching this guy makes some swings? Um Tight. Yeah, 225 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like you heard himself. I don't 226 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: see guys swinging that hard for that long and not 227 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: getting hurt. But it was very, very impressive to watch today. Yeah, 228 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fun to see where he goes 229 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: from here. Um. I was, of course, referring to the 230 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: tragic hero of the day, Roy mcelroy. Um. Everybody wanted 231 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: him to get this. It just almost it was in 232 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: the stars. You know, he seems like he's a foot 233 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: taller than he was a few months ago, the way 234 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: he's taken on this ambassadorship of the game and this 235 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: long drought. There's him Das if we can only get 236 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: rope him in anyway. Um, Himi, we're podcasting. You want 237 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: to get over here? Come here. No, get over here. Yeah, 238 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: drop your back sports stand right here. Yep, this, this, this, 239 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean these are two greatest living golf writers and Canute, 240 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: my wife says, no one looks better in a suit 241 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: and him. Look at the man. He looks like he's 242 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: in his early fifties. I get more compliments from bambergers. 243 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: How about the note taking that we observed this week? 244 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: After thirty years of watching home at work, I didn't 245 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: realize the depth of the note taking. And also there's 246 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: no book. In other words, they're all loose sheets. How 247 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: do you keep it straight? It's only the last thirty seconds. 248 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: That's as long as my memory list. I'm writing all 249 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the time, like the Guy Memento he wrote on yeah, right, 250 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: keep it all together. You keep all those like they're 251 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: all files. It's wonderful, alright, I burn them, Um, all right, 252 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna let you go. Just give us 253 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: one thought on the day with the tragic hero rory. 254 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think rory is going to be very resilient. 255 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: I really feel like he's still, don't, undergoing the education 256 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: of a Golfer. I mean he's thirty three, I know, 257 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: and it seems like he's already had a great prime, 258 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: but I still think the best is yet to come. 259 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: This is what happens when you're really good. Sometimes you 260 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: just get you're heartbroken by being in contention. Things happen. 261 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean happened to Nicholas, happened to Palmer, happened you know, Watson. 262 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: It's happened. We've seen it ourselves. I mean Stewart's saying, 263 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Tom Watson, you know Billy Casper Donold Palmer, Tom Watson 264 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: and Jack Nicholas. It just part of the game and yeah, 265 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem fair and it looked like it was his, 266 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the storybook was his, but Cam Smith played the golf 267 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I mean he did everything 268 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: flawlessly today and the way he turned it around from 269 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: yesterday is really impressive because he had every right to 270 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: be very discouraged after yesterday and he came out brave 271 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: as hell today. And then it just felt like he 272 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: was playing offensive. Growers Playing Defense. I think when you're leading, 273 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I think he felt he was in control. He didn't 274 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: want to make a mistake and that's when he's done 275 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot. So he's gotten a little more conservative, which 276 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: I think has been better overall, but in that situation 277 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: it seemed like he was just missing that that extra 278 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of willpower to put it away. But when the 279 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: PUTTS aren't going in and put you on the defensive, 280 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of good putts that 281 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't go in and then the one on three. I 282 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: thought that started a bad trend for the day because 283 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: he could have taken a lead there and he played 284 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: the whole perfectly and he walked away and who knows? 285 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: It just puts out in your mind and that's enough 286 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: when you're not putting well, doesn't he walk away from 287 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: the Shertman feeling very good about how he played, even 288 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: this F throwned? I think so. I drove it great 289 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and the irons weren't perfect, but they were always yeah, 290 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: but he played. I mean, look at he hit eighteen greens. 291 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I know that the biggest Greens in the world, but 292 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: still there was no mistake. I mean he's Roy has 293 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: been renowned for making bad mistakes at the wrong time. 294 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, the soft bogey, the one that he made 295 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: some soft pars today, but they weren't, you know, anything 296 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: that he should be ashamed of. Uh, I felt like 297 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: he has grown as a player. It just wasn't quite enough. 298 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: This is really more out of the dristion of of 299 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Jack being getting. I mean Jack's Got Nineteen winner ups. 300 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Of course wasn't where. He wasn't technically the run up today, 301 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: but it's still sort of the same things that Jack's 302 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna play. Jack's game. If Lee Tramino or Hubert Green 303 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: or somebody goes crazy, well, what can I do about it? 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm playing my game. And I think rory can really 305 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: leave this town with his head high. I think. I 306 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: think it was an outstanding four days of golf and 307 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: he's represented golf extremely well. Would you agree? I would 308 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: agree with that. You know, he isn't Jack. Jack had 309 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: a history of winning that gave him a definite, you know, 310 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: sense of almost in permeability when he did have bad breaks, 311 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, because he said, well, the law of averages 312 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: in my favor. Rory hasn't gotten to that point where 313 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: the love of average are quite in his favor, but 314 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: I think he is growing as a Golfer and I 315 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: love that he seems more energized than he's been in 316 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: a long time. I think this, you know. I think 317 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: even his relationship with tiger is encouraging, you know. I 318 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: mean that's helped Dustin Thomas. I just think he sees 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: even just being around him a little bit like plane 320 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: at bally bunny and I think it just gives him 321 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: a different perspective. When I first met Rory, he knew 322 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: more about tiger as far as his record than almost anyone. Yeah, 323 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean I had the exact same experience. It's still 324 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: it's still good to be emulating him, even in Tiger's twilight. Now, 325 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean in your experience, when guys get so involved 326 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: on the political side of Golf, you know, going back 327 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: to Bob Goldby and Jack in the sixties, and now, 328 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: it seems to say, with word, serving on, serving on 329 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: committees and becoming a spokesman for the game. What is 330 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: that helpful hurtful to your game? What I was thinking 331 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: about this with rory because he's so other directed. I 332 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: think he's almost more motivated to do it for others 333 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: than it is from self. And right now I think 334 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: he kind of represents a cause because of live golf 335 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: being so, so much a threat, and I think that 336 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: helped him at the Canadian Open. And you know there's 337 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: rumors about Camp Smith going to live so he may 338 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: have felt the burden of that. But at the same 339 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: time I also thought as extra motivation that doesn't put 340 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: as much pressure on him as wanting to do it 341 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: for himself. For some reason he seems like he can 342 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: lose himself in a bigger cause. Might be making too 343 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: much out of it, but that he definitely seemed to 344 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: be that way when he went to Canada. You know, well, 345 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: let's get back in here one second, but just a pout. 346 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: I'm just enjoying listening to me one of the you know, 347 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: I think all three of us a poultroy very closely 348 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: really his entire career is noting about what thirteen or 349 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: so years now. Uh, the crying episode at the Ryder 350 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: Cup really surprised me. I didn't really know what could 351 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: be the emotional thing in his life that would trigger that. 352 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: Really having but so having that fresh in my mind, 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: seeing him really performed at the highest level for four days, 354 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: carrying really the weight of the PGA tour and Jay 355 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Monahan's expectations and tigers expected sations and being totally emotionally 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: in control, I take that as a very big positive 357 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: for where where he is and his emotional life. And 358 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: you know, as we all know, and I think we 359 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: would all agree, your emotional life and your golfing life 360 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: they're very much connected. I think his emotional life is strong. 361 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Now he's still got to improve technically, you know, just 362 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: be a little better putter and make that an obsession. 363 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: Get better. It's not a lot and the chipping today 364 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: was just good. I give it a B minus. He 365 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: needed to hit some chips clip stiff, you know, like 366 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: like Camp Smith did get the easy body and that 367 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: would have broken the ice. So it's small margins, but 368 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's still growing as a player. He used 369 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: to think if I drive it great, I'll beat anybody, 370 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: and that no longer is the case. The game has evolved. 371 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: These guys are more complete players now and you just 372 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: can't overpower everybody. You have to have the rest of 373 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: the game and he's learned that kind of late because 374 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: to some extent he was spoiled by winning two of 375 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: them by eight shots. You know, I think that motivation 376 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: to get better was lessened because of that. You know, 377 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: when you're playing, of course you know really well. Like 378 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: it goes to national and it's like, okay, well, I 379 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: know when to get the third teen. I'm gonna hit 380 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: that into what have you. Know, chance or your goals 381 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: should make it too. But, Bertie Um, you're you're sort 382 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: of playing chess like Nicholas talked about this all the time. 383 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: But do you think right? Do you think today with 384 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: you know especially, seventeen is always seventeen is always the 385 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: possible to making a five. There you're probably gonna make 386 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: it four. Do you think he's sort of always calculting 387 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: in his mind, even if I'm only tied going to 388 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: the seventies. Second Tea, I can make a three in 389 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: eight cheen and you can but take in a campus Smith. 390 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good way to go. How 391 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: about the changes in the in the game and how 392 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: this golf course has stood up? I was amazed. I was, 393 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, a skeptic, healthy skeptic, about St Andrew's probably 394 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: being outmoded this year sort of being exposed. And it 395 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: wasn't even windy and it held up beautifully. Now I 396 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: know they used a lot of uh or sorry, whole 397 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: positions that were that they never used. They were extreme, 398 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: but I just think the nature of the golf course 399 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: keeps it from being easy to control. You know, there's 400 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: just so much variation and so much capriciousness where, you know, 401 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: the Greens have so much undulation. It's just if you 402 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: don't hit it close, which is hard to do, it's 403 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: hard to make putts. So the birdies have to come 404 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: on these drivable holes and on the and the par fives, 405 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: and even that is problematic because when the ball rolls 406 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: up there you're still gonna have some kind of crazy 407 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: put or some kind of crazy chip and so I 408 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: just thought it was charming. Yeah, senators, gets a past 409 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: a little bit because a lot of the approaches are 410 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: like less than sixty yards, but as a stage and 411 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: as a place where interesting golf is played, maybe not 412 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: power golf, but interesting golf, it's almost unsurpassed. I thought 413 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: it held up. I mean, I want to come back, 414 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't feel like this is the in 415 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: St Andrews. In a way it's a new beginning. I 416 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: think now we should let you go, hime, because you 417 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: look like your man in in a hurry. But thank 418 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: you for stopping by. A privilege and it's great to 419 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: be with you guys always. It was funcy and you 420 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: guys at dinner the other night and good luck and 421 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: congratulations and everything you guys have already done. So that's awesome. Okay, alright, SA, trouble. 422 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: All Right, see if you guy. We've talked about the 423 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: three people that matter today, rory, mcelroy, Cam Smith, Cam 424 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: young and also him media and Mike Rico. That was 425 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: fun as well. Um, and this is the serendipity of 426 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: being in St Andrew's, like we're just literally sitting in 427 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: a hotel lobby and all the people keep wondering by. 428 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: We we almost sang hide poulaising here, but he begged off. 429 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: Justin Leonard Errolman, John Wood, the former caddy now TV guy, 430 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: we talked about all week. It's been it's been a 431 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: great week for both of us. We're lucky to be 432 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: doing this. It's funny be doing it together. What are 433 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: your final thoughts? Just put a bow on this whole thing, Michael, 434 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: this this wouldn't be because I know you have a 435 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: very good counter argument to him me, because you made 436 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: it to me earlier in the week about well, what 437 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: about second shots into seventeen? In other words, there is 438 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: something missing here because of the ball. Uh, because, whatever 439 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: you want to say, but I was a little surposed 440 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: to hear behind me say what he said in a 441 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: manner of speaking. Camp Smith almost had to be the 442 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: winner because he's the one who's got the most queenside 443 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: game of anybody in the field. Best Short putter, best 444 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: lag putter, best tripper. But we didn't have really nasty 445 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: bunker shots like you expected. You know, Rory did hold out, 446 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: hold on a bunker shut. It's hard for me to say, 447 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: but it didn't really play. Even if you go back 448 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: to even if you go back to just two thousand 449 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: and fifteen, two thousand and ten, certainly one daily wanted 450 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: no different weather changes. Thing, the roof wasn't up. But 451 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: I think, I think you'd have to say the old 452 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: course was assaulted this week, not just the winning score, 453 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: twenty under, but the clubs that people were hitting into 454 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: into part four's. Yeah, I agree that, and also the 455 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: amount of rough that they've grown up out there. I mean, 456 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: this place is supposed to be a race track. It's 457 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: the BALLSTON run forever and they've they've got all this 458 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: knee high rough in places that never used to be. Um, 459 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: I agree what you're saying, Michael it it was a 460 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: fun show, but there was never really an element of 461 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: day danger. You know, they were just like because these 462 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: guys that they're driving it so close to the green, 463 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: either they're gonna hit a great shot or a good 464 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: shot and be six FT, they're gonna be twenty five Ft. 465 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: but and you know the Greens aren't that fast, so 466 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: there's very few three puts and even putting down the 467 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: hill there. They just it was a little sad for 468 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: me to see it. You're watching all I walked all 469 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: the teen holes with Rory and you know, he he 470 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: really didn't. He didn't make a single put all day. 471 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: He didn't do anything special. He didn't hit any like 472 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: amazing shot and he shot to wonder and it was 473 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: like the absolutely the worst he could have shot. Like 474 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: he just kind of he just kind of plotted his 475 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: way around and if you, if you, if you played 476 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: this round of golf on a, you know, a tougher test, 477 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: you probably would have gotten blown out a lot sooner. 478 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Like I think he might have been exposed. But there 479 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: for these players, they can just navigate their way around 480 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: so easily. I mean there's there's four or five drive 481 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: all part four's, there's the part five, the roadholer hitting 482 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: wedges into I mean there's just not the sense of 483 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: danger and so it just felt like I hear what 484 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: Himi is saying, uh, sorry about those beeps. I try 485 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: to turn off. I couldn't figure it out. I hear 486 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: what IIMIE is saying, and it is charmed city and 487 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: some of the shots around the Greens are so incredibly 488 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: fun to watch, but it's kind of like that's all 489 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: it is, driver and shots around the green. There wasn't 490 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: much else in between, I mean following it, following this 491 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: less round as we did, being on the course the 492 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: entire day. It didn't have that intense level of anxiety 493 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: that we associate with with with open championships. Are Really 494 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: any major any major title? Michael, your point is very 495 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: well taken. I mean the RNI did everything they could's 496 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: just although they haven't because they have a fiduciary duty 497 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: to regulate the sport as the governing body for the 498 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: entire world minus the US, and they've been asleep at 499 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: the wheel for twenty or thirty years, going back to 500 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: the big Bertha and everything else. and Um, we've just 501 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: we've just reached a point where we've got eight years 502 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: to figure out if they come back to the old course. 503 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: Someone has to get figured out, because is it's sort 504 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: of untenable. Like the game, the players are gonna be 505 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: bigger and faster and stronger. They're gonna be more and 506 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: more optimized. You know, they're already doing things that that 507 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: Jack and and Arnie and Tom Watson never imagine in 508 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: the gym with technology, with their diets, with, you know, 509 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: their sleep APPs and their meditation, all this stuff. Like 510 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: the athletes are just getting better and they're playing the 511 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: game at a higher level as in every sports. No, 512 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: it's not, not, it's not golf's fault, I mean, and 513 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: things just evolve and unfortunately these ancient playing fields can 514 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: only evolve so much and I think we saw it 515 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: this week that we're gonna have someone's gonna have to change. 516 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I've got nothing to add to that. Very smart man. Um. Well, 517 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: it was one hell of a week here Um, in 518 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: St Andrews. We deeply appreciate all of you coming along 519 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: for this journey. We have to give a shout out 520 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: to the RUSTICK's hotel. We are in there lobby right 521 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: now and I'm thinking about stealing that that old Tom 522 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: Morris painting. I don't know if I'll fit in my 523 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: golf bag, but it's been a it was a great 524 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: home for us this week. Um, we'll mentor other sponsors 525 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: who help us keep the lights on at the fire 526 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: pit collective. We've got par points, our favorite APP we've 527 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: got dormy workshop, beautiful stuff, seed golf real, the Cool 528 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: Little Golf Ball company out of Ireland. Um, I think 529 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: that's it. Oh, well, links. So of course. Yeah, links. 530 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: So are are you know that give us clothes to where. Um, 531 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: they literally it's like the shirt off my back. But yeah, 532 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: it's we set it all week long. It's a privilege 533 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: to be here. It was. It was way too much fun. 534 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: and Oh there's brandles, so we try and Ropen brandle. 535 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: Let's not know. We're done. Honestly, we have Michael Bamberer, 536 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: have high medias. We don't need brandle. Sorry, Brandon, you're out. Um, 537 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. It was a pleasure to serve. 538 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: And no more fire drills for a little while. I mean, 539 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have breaking news and we have things 540 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna chew on. Probably live golf, BUT FEDEX ONE MEMPHIS. Um, 541 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: the term swamp ass was invented in Memphis. I think 542 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: we're probably not gonna be covering that tournament, but Um, we'll. 543 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: We'll come back on as as we need to. What 544 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: can you tell us about Ryan French this week? Well, 545 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: he's having a heck of a week and I'd be 546 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: shout out to the fire pit collective. We've got guys 547 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: the Reno talk how open and the old course and 548 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: we blasted out obscene amount of content. If there's anyone 549 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: on the earth who's listened to every podcast from here 550 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: and there and read every story. Show yourself and we'll 551 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: send you a hat, because it has been a flood 552 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: of content. It's it's really it's awesome to be part 553 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: of all this so um for the third or fourth 554 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: time I can try and end this podcast. Michael, let 555 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: my people go and again thanks for listening and we'll 556 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: be back at you soon. This is Allen Schip nut 557 00:27:45,440 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: for Michael Bamberger from St Andrew's were out put another 558 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: log on the fire. Nobody hears get the time