Speaker 1: You understand I can put anything I want that on you.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So you as a consumer, you're
Speaker 1: gonna watch, not consumer as I'm saying, as somebody watching
Speaker 1: my platform. If I put eighty five South and number
Speaker 1: six and and they even it ain't even came out yet,
Speaker 1: you just said I said the hard numbers, the demographics
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Okay, when someone there's value to every viewer,
Speaker 1: there's an ad company that wants to sell something to
Speaker 1: every person that clicks on the eighty five South podcasting
Speaker 1: looking at it in a small I'm looking at it?
Speaker 1: How Netflix looking at it? They're selling that data? Bro
Speaker 1: does Netflix try to Does Netflix own that content of y'all?
Speaker 1: What content that y'all did for them? Did they pay
Speaker 1: y'all for it? I might as well enjoy yourself. You
Speaker 1: know your can get broke into tonight.
Speaker 2: So will it be on the eighty five Apple? I
Speaker 2: guess it's my question.
Speaker 1: At some point give should pay a forty million because
Speaker 1: it's saying, listen, we want to own this. We don't
Speaker 1: want to play the game where you you know, own it,
Speaker 1: and we want to give you forty and we want it.
Speaker 1: Is that okay?
Speaker 2: Do you believe that that's what the best was being
Speaker 2: reported and giving?
Speaker 1: Hard who would report that? Think about how it work Netflix?
Speaker 1: Why would they want to do that? Because they don't
Speaker 1: want you to be unreasonable and think it's a forty
Speaker 1: million dollar number on a comic without it being ownership
Speaker 1: on their side. They don't just pull numbers out and
Speaker 1: I got deals everywhere. No, but the way that you
Speaker 1: say it, you're gonna mislead people and make them think
Speaker 1: that they just tell me what I said. That a
Speaker 1: misleads that they gave that man that money. Nah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: they know what I'm talking about giving. They don't give
Speaker 1: nobody you think that. Yeah, I'm talking about why they
Speaker 1: came and offered him forty million dollars. Anybody that's below
Speaker 1: that standard don't watch this show. You gotta understand that
Speaker 1: that ain't We don't even know if that's the number,
Speaker 1: whatever the number is. We know they interested in owning
Speaker 1: the content on that platform because I hear comics time
Speaker 1: and time again speak to that. Big comics speak to yo.
Speaker 1: The reason why the front end is so much is
Speaker 1: because they're interested in owning it and not showing the numbers,
Speaker 1: not even giving you real data as to what it done.
Speaker 1: Then the business side to understand demographics and things. The numbers,
Speaker 1: that's what dude, you're not listening. I'm never saying the number.
Speaker 1: That's why on YouTube and things, you can't have fake
Speaker 1: feels and certain things because they'll they added in this
Speaker 1: because they're selling ads against it. So what happens is
Speaker 1: Netflix is taking that hard data that they're telling you
Speaker 1: as useless. And it's unfortunate that you were just hiring
Speaker 1: the business and thinking this data's useless when this data
Speaker 1: is so important. You look, you not even hearing hearing
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Go ahead, they give what you watching on there,
Speaker 1: or they want you to have this account? Who the company?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you think what you watch? They don't write,
Speaker 1: I do it. You can have a Netflix account and
Speaker 1: never watch nothing. You don't watch Netflix every day. I
Speaker 1: think there's extreme value in what is actually being watched
Speaker 1: on Netflix to feel like we win. When I see
Speaker 1: black people we're slaves are symbols. No we're not. We
Speaker 1: gotta stop thinking like that. No, this is the proof, bro.
Speaker 1: We spend all our money in the consumer market. Who
Speaker 1: believes why google it? Why because we're slaves? Off symbols.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is we're slaves to the consumer
Speaker 1: market and symbolisms. I don't believe it. Tell me how,
Speaker 1: give me, give me something, something indicator that says whatnot?
Speaker 1: Because there is no WI. They spend millions of dollars
Speaker 1: on weave every every year Black women do. That's their business.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's their buiding. But I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: they don't need weave. They buy this is fake hair,
Speaker 1: horse hairs some of course, But I'm free. Will You
Speaker 1: ain't listening to me. You're saying you can't be a
Speaker 1: hypocrite on the platform. I ain't a hypocrite. Yes you are,
Speaker 1: but you're just said we slaves and you want bought
Speaker 1: all them change. I was a hypocrite. I say, y'all,
Speaker 1: you said we that mean I'm not a hypocrite. Well
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying everybody that. But what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we that mean I'm not a hypocritic. If I say y'all,
Speaker 1: that mean I'm separating from y'all, Well why are you
Speaker 1: yelling at them? Who's yelling? But what when you're saying
Speaker 1: we are slaves? People can hear anything like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about that not But what I'm saying is there
Speaker 1: is no way to universally speak for all black people
Speaker 1: said that. What I'm saying is like they spend a
Speaker 1: billion dollars on weed. I think you do. You got
Speaker 1: a phone or good? Yeah, you need to spend some
Speaker 1: time on it. If black women stop spending money on weed,
Speaker 1: what would happen? Well? Nothing, if they have no direction
Speaker 1: with what to do, and if and if us as
Speaker 1: black men don't accept them with their natural help. Okay,
Speaker 1: so if black men this is an overall problem. Again,
Speaker 1: we are slaves. This rooky Now niggas want tone me
Speaker 1: to death exactly, my man, Lord, both loans, old loan,
Speaker 1: new loom. Okay, okay, it's up there and stuck that
Speaker 1: nigga when it's up there, Man, it's stuck there. Shut up.
Speaker 1: But y'all don't give that. Y'all give take care of
Speaker 1: the budding. And then these dudes, they all is ty coon.
Speaker 1: So you know me, if I'm not careful, this could
Speaker 1: slip away, you know, So I gotta be. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm paying attention because I got all these deals. Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta think I don't even got a co host
Speaker 1: I got the same deal as anybody else got with
Speaker 1: the same ad companies. I got it all. I got
Speaker 1: audio deals, video deals, Patreon deal, I got a prize picks.
Speaker 1: I got the same things across the board, right, So
Speaker 1: I gotta maintain that all that without even a co host.
Speaker 1: So my intensity is through the rule. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: why we're finna talk about just the whole them together,
Speaker 1: all of that then hit him solo. It's like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta for me. I'm out on the island with this,
Speaker 1: like trying to figure it out. Which is working. I'm
Speaker 1: doing well, bro, and every every aspect of this. But
Speaker 1: I'm cognizant that, like now we're talking about your boy.
Speaker 1: What's up? G Look Jeremiah Phillip eighteen months ago, popping, popping, popping.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep having good conversations like this one, like
Speaker 1: when I sit with fifty cent, Like when I see
Speaker 1: with all these I got to have these got to
Speaker 1: be I mean, you've been talking to fifty now.
Speaker 2: I got him on the calendar.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I got him on the calendar. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I ain't holler at fifty Yeah. Yeah. I had brief
Speaker 1: inactions with him. He came to a couple of shows.
Speaker 1: I know he he gave most definitely got to you
Speaker 1: gotta come in here and talk with us. I hope
Speaker 1: we get the right version of I got a lot
Speaker 1: of them now when they get fit there on the show,
Speaker 1: they be wanting to hear the business man. I need
Speaker 1: to hear that from from the street because his street
Speaker 1: knowledge just as good as the business side. Like they
Speaker 1: want to talk. They used to you know them little
Speaker 1: clips he used to drop on world stuff like see
Speaker 1: you know what's wrong with you? You need to always
Speaker 1: be waiting on do something's wrong with you? Cronasce man,
Speaker 1: you got two legs and two like that type of ship.
Speaker 1: Like they might not choose the best words, but I
Speaker 1: find the motivation and inspiration and all types of like
Speaker 1: just move from the culture bro with that moment at
Speaker 1: the end of one of them, I think it's the
Speaker 1: hay Mam video, Jim Jones just come out in the
Speaker 1: full linked first reaching the coat pocket, pull out big
Speaker 1: water money like as a young turned me up really
Speaker 1: with my with my psychology or how I wanted this
Speaker 1: to go, Like oh you could be and still get
Speaker 1: that paper bird man man like all that. I like
Speaker 1: none that I'm grown and I look back all that
Speaker 1: stunned that he did in them rhymes. That was a
Speaker 1: specific version, like that's tailor for me, Like you don't
Speaker 1: have to do it like a rapper do it, but
Speaker 1: the mother that's trying to inspire you to get some more.
Speaker 1: You really got to be able to take the message
Speaker 1: from there. You still love to see ship like that.
Speaker 1: I love when Sexy Red be out and then she
Speaker 1: pulled her stacks out. You get what I'm like, Most
Speaker 1: people think she's just being ignorant, but you think, like
Speaker 1: when you know what that what she's doing, she knows
Speaker 1: how she's really talking to people who don't have that platform.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to say that she's ignorant. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you know.
Speaker 2: That's the perception, right right, Yeah, but no, we relate
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: That turned us up, like I got to see it
Speaker 1: something man out the talk and all that motherfuckers be
Speaker 1: wanting to see. Okay, I did this and I got that.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you just got it. And with fifty man,
Speaker 1: I think he's valuable asset to the culture for real,
Speaker 1: for real, Like yeah, yeah, he's valued. Yeah that nigga man,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he go to talking and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: his impact was crazy when he came out, and it's
Speaker 1: just the whole allure of him being shot that many
Speaker 1: times people just wanted to hear what he had, like
Speaker 1: he was gonna drop a message from the side, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a hell he had a then he played
Speaker 1: into a bulletproof vest. He didn't let us down.
Speaker 2: Yet he showed like he ain't went out bad one.
Speaker 1: He ain't let us down here even the public ship.
Speaker 1: You know, that be considered like business flops of failures,
Speaker 1: but it's like that's just part of the game, and
Speaker 1: he's still up. He ain't win our bad you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, Nah, he and to had win
Speaker 1: against giants. Yeah, because he challenged Jade and them still
Speaker 1: of this day did it. I ain't the man he
Speaker 1: fought for that spot because he saw he was like,
Speaker 1: y'all just gonna let two niggas get money. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get I'm gonna get a bit without them niggas, Right,
Speaker 1: that's the important part. I'm gonna do it without them niggas,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do it in a different way than them.
Speaker 1: There Like, just think about that, because coming through rap
Speaker 1: saying fuck jay Z is like pissing where you live at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't come and be challenging jay Z. And did
Speaker 1: it and in New York and against murder, ain't at
Speaker 1: the time like he come through that. He fought for
Speaker 1: what he got. He did that poor fall for what
Speaker 1: he and he he stood on it. And like he said,
Speaker 1: he ain't let a nigga down. Want he ain't let
Speaker 1: us down. Ain't nobody took nothing from ain't nobody He
Speaker 1: went one. Ain't that crazy? He might be the only
Speaker 1: rap nigga that doesn't kick that high level gangster ship. Like, Nah,
Speaker 1: you can't say that because then there's too many that
Speaker 1: you'll be an overlook that done went that far that
Speaker 1: they ain't went out bad man, give me some mold ship.
Speaker 1: Oh Holding kicked that high level gangster talk though he
Speaker 1: did that. I've been shot, nigga. I'm ready to die. Nigga.
Speaker 1: Look if it's beefcocking and dump it. The drummer really
Speaker 1: mean nothing to me? I rapped by and throw your
Speaker 1: brains out. How much murder Murder got, how much ship
Speaker 1: Holding rapped about? Right? And think about just how much
Speaker 1: ship you done learned about his life over the years.
Speaker 1: That you know is the fact that you you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like he don't shot away from it.
Speaker 1: But think of how much he ain't never spoke of him, right,
Speaker 1: But that makes it different because Fifty coming out saying,
Speaker 1: I shoot up your mama house, nigga and make your
Speaker 1: gass look for me, like he ain't talking about hustling
Speaker 1: at this time. He was straight grimming on some I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that level of gangster ship. Bro, when a
Speaker 1: nigga coming saying, if it's beef what he says, but
Speaker 1: it's not your character that he created. He used to
Speaker 1: he he played that yeah ship. But then though usually
Speaker 1: we catch the rap nigga, they kicked that kind of ship,
Speaker 1: they done call them and kicked them in the ass
Speaker 1: somewhere down in his career. Well, you didn't got somebody
Speaker 1: in a beat on him, like even sugar, after so long,
Speaker 1: you're getting knocked out after so long, like you gotta
Speaker 1: keep it, like, I don't think you can only look
Speaker 1: at ship like that type of ship one way though,
Speaker 1: Like Nigga the baddest motherfucker's didn't got knocked out.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I don't mean that.
Speaker 2: When I'm staying knocked out, I mean d thrown.
Speaker 1: And when we say fifty never went out bad, we're
Speaker 1: not even talking about took a loss. We spoke to
Speaker 1: him having bankruptcies and things like that. That's business, right,
Speaker 1: but them can be considered losses to people who don't
Speaker 1: have the vision that we have to understand where he's at.
Speaker 1: When I'm from the outside looking right, people want to
Speaker 1: understand how you protect your business assets exactly like that.
Speaker 1: It ain't like that's a failure. That's just how you
Speaker 1: protect them money and ship you already got. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is he hasn't been dethrown at least That's
Speaker 1: what I mean when I say he never went out bad,
Speaker 1: that's what he went But I'm saying most niggas they
Speaker 1: at some point, like Sugar, when I say he was
Speaker 1: knocked out, it ain't because he lost a fight. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the atmosphere around Shug changed to where he was
Speaker 1: now de thrown from that scary. He's still Shug Knight.
Speaker 2: He's still Sugar Knight, but not that scariest. They knocking
Speaker 2: they stay hitting on him.
Speaker 1: Color I know it. But if niggas, they wouldn't that
Speaker 1: hit Sugar in the nineties broyed Sugar had stole. Yeah
Speaker 1: he had. I'm talking about catching down there at the
Speaker 1: club and try to knock him out, shoot him, have
Speaker 1: him up here the thing where he running niggas over
Speaker 1: trying to get away, like, bro, Like, what do you
Speaker 1: think happened in Las Vegas? They was trying to kill
Speaker 1: him too. No, he come up there to try to
Speaker 1: bargain to get in on the wold saying I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the Knight park Hill. They were gonna kill him too.
Speaker 1: They were shot at the car. They wouldn't aiming at
Speaker 1: one person too, but then got hit up a lot
Speaker 1: of times. That's a direct Violett. That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right. But for a minute, No,
Speaker 1: that's just that's just playing the game. Like, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: gonna just let you bully them and not do nothing back.
Speaker 1: But if you in the game ain't been dethrowned, he's
Speaker 1: been bullied. He ain't just walked around and slap motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: They didn't have fight it untok their money from him.
Speaker 1: That's worse. If I were young.
Speaker 2: I have probably tried to kill that nigga.
Speaker 1: But you don't you make you feel me that just
Speaker 1: took me. It's from me versus slapping me. That's only
Speaker 1: watching that ship from the fan point of view. I
Speaker 1: didn't think about it. From the business I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not defending either, sad right, what I'm saying. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is if you're in the business side him, he
Speaker 1: didn't take ship. I can't say that he took nothing.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is eighty five South. You know
Speaker 1: how much of an arch in it I am near?
Speaker 1: You what these people? If I signed you the eighty
Speaker 1: five celth Yeah, and shit didn't work out, and I
Speaker 1: still continue to make millions of dollars like they did
Speaker 1: at g Unit. You can leave here and say they
Speaker 1: fucked my money up. They took my money because they
Speaker 1: still got it. Nigga, We had the money before we
Speaker 1: got to see So if you come over here and
Speaker 1: your shit don't work out, that don't mean that I
Speaker 1: took nothing from you. That just mean you wasn't able
Speaker 1: to use the infrastructure that I created to create this money.
Speaker 1: This is revisional on his business side. Nah, this revision
Speaker 1: is history. You know too much about hip hop, dude,
Speaker 1: I know you're a hip hop listen, young buck and
Speaker 1: fifty cent situation in particular, fifty was putting it out
Speaker 1: to ruin him his career. He would kept on that's
Speaker 1: what fifty do. He used his platform to say he
Speaker 1: embarrasses you. He like he puts stuff out to diminish
Speaker 1: your value in the marketplace, and that to me is
Speaker 1: worse than us fighting. I can take a fight from it.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I don't know, but to make me go
Speaker 1: from selling two hundred thousand my first week to twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred my first week, you done crash my company.
Speaker 1: Nobody should be able to do that. Well, everything in
Speaker 1: this business is on perception, especially with a rapper. Not
Speaker 1: for y'all and not for me. We hard numbers and
Speaker 1: listens and things like that. With rappers, they live on perception.
Speaker 1: So once we view you as not the guy that
Speaker 1: we thought you were, it affixed.
Speaker 2: It affixed the business, all right.
Speaker 1: So this is the argument that I've been hearing from
Speaker 1: the fifty cents that if you came out and you
Speaker 1: went platinum, and you sold all these records, right, and
Speaker 1: you tied up on the business side. When you when
Speaker 1: you successful, you want all the credit for your success.
Speaker 1: You got to take the same credit when you're not successful,
Speaker 1: or when you stumble, or when you fail or when
Speaker 1: you flop. It can't be Oh, I did this shit
Speaker 1: by myself. When you come out in your first G
Speaker 1: unit debut, you sell a million, right, and then when
Speaker 1: you come out and say fuck them, and then you
Speaker 1: sell twenty five hundred copies. But that's the area that's
Speaker 1: nobody's fault. But but the arrogance of men and the crowd. See,
Speaker 1: sometimes the crowd will make you thank you bigger than
Speaker 1: you are. You could deal with the crowd saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: you don't need them, nigga. Man, why you be with
Speaker 1: them nigga? Yo? Bro, you how nigga eighty five sided
Speaker 1: nigga to get the man? You don't got to be
Speaker 1: on tour with them, nigga, call it go by yourself. Bro.
Speaker 1: You you don't need them, nigga. But you an old
Speaker 1: g veteran. It don't affect you. But we talking about
Speaker 1: a young nigga come out of because see here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Even when I see it with fitted, we're not talking
Speaker 1: about young bump, right, No, this is just a hyper Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's but it's just a situation for me and
Speaker 1: you because I think it's so much information just in
Speaker 1: that altercation between the two. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: from a being the perspective, It's like, Yo, I believe
Speaker 1: him had crashed his company. I believe him to had
Speaker 1: literally a fted how the marketplace views this guy along
Speaker 1: with what he's done. But I think fifty was hammering
Speaker 1: it down. No, but you got to keep in mind
Speaker 1: this I think fifties argument from the way I hear
Speaker 1: it from interviews, in the way that he was like
Speaker 1: disputed the claims or whatever. I'm not defending nobody. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you what I hear on both sides. I'm
Speaker 1: hearing that he says, Hey, if I gave you an opportunity,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, I'm taking you where I'm going
Speaker 1: get You're meeting the Vitamin Water people, you meeting the
Speaker 1: Reebok people, you know, the Louis Viton people out and
Speaker 1: took you to the Nike people. You mean to tell
Speaker 1: me you ain't had no hustle about yourself where you
Speaker 1: couldn't create no more lanes. Exactly, I got these clothes
Speaker 1: you ain't put you ain't. You ain't trying to jump
Speaker 1: in and throw nothing on or wear none in the video.
Speaker 1: I got this liquor. You wanna drink this other liquor
Speaker 1: for free? You ain't trying to. You're not making yourself
Speaker 1: an asset. I got all these avenues where you can
Speaker 1: get paid, and all you want to do is wrap
Speaker 1: you not on social media. You ain't out here trying
Speaker 1: to help sell no tickets. You just leaning on me
Speaker 1: to pay you. That would be the argument, right, And
Speaker 1: I agree with fit the that and you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because the truth for the matter is is this.
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing he wanted them. He wanted
Speaker 1: all the artists that didn't find success over there on
Speaker 1: his platform to create more revenues for themselves. You got
Speaker 1: the light. You're with the hottest nigga in the game.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be able to parlay that into other
Speaker 1: opportunities for yourself. You should be able to like if
Speaker 1: I'm putting you on this platform, right, you talented. I
Speaker 1: believe in your talent. I fuck with your raps. If
Speaker 1: you got a hit and you want me on it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on it. But until you bring me something,
Speaker 1: I can't just get on bullshit because I'm your homeboy.
Speaker 1: Bring me some shit that could be a hit. Now, now,
Speaker 1: let's make some money, because you know, hit records make
Speaker 1: money when motherfuckers make something that that's going, when it's vie,
Speaker 1: when it's a hit, when you're trending, that's what people want.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be able to use the resources to
Speaker 1: make that. So if you don't take advantage of the resources.
Speaker 1: And I'm out here getting up every day, I'm in
Speaker 1: the office, I'm in the studio, I'm working on music,
Speaker 1: I'm calling I'm calling people for you setting up shit,
Speaker 1: and you ain't showing up. And I'm spending the money
Speaker 1: you on my dime. But every time I go and
Speaker 1: some shit go for me, you're supposed to get something.
Speaker 1: Because I got something. We're still working right, work right.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. And also here's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: when I examine the rapper that've usually come from a
Speaker 1: low income environment, I usually see them go and get
Speaker 1: with someone like a fifty cent or getting this industry,
Speaker 1: and then they double back and their first objective is
Speaker 1: to shine on the hood. This is the thing. This
Speaker 1: is the thing as an artist. That's the price you
Speaker 1: pay for having to go through another artist. If an
Speaker 1: artist came up and they grinded, they shop up and
Speaker 1: they got their own record label situation, it's not their
Speaker 1: responsibility to go and put you on. This is a business. Yes,
Speaker 1: they looking for people who we can market, who we
Speaker 1: can make money off of right now or in the
Speaker 1: next few years. You got telling you just a little
Speaker 1: rough around the edges. You just need to be in
Speaker 1: a real studio, You need to be around some business.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to take you out the hood. But
Speaker 1: as soon as you put that money in their pocket,
Speaker 1: they go right back to the hood. Ain't no no
Speaker 1: return on investment. Because what happens is, at least what
Speaker 1: I think is that they try to show the hood
Speaker 1: that I'm no longer like y'all go back and say
Speaker 1: we made it, we made it. Might be we made it,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like if it's we made it,
Speaker 1: why you keep pulling up in the bend thet don't
Speaker 1: nobody else got nothing? Or you keep pulling up in
Speaker 1: the roads the same way that you don't have no
Speaker 1: responsibility to make sure so else everybody is grown. So
Speaker 1: we ain't done nothing. But it's not necessarily we. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Somebody from right here who had the
Speaker 1: same opportunities as you. I got up every day with you,
Speaker 1: I went to school with you. Every day you said
Speaker 1: beside me, I spend the night on your grandma. How
Speaker 1: we ate the same food, We spent the same summers
Speaker 1: in this regular motherfucker. You had the same opportunity that
Speaker 1: I had. Yes, so if I got if, I'm if
Speaker 1: success to me looked like a Bentley. Why should I
Speaker 1: buy suburban so you can have some? But that's why
Speaker 1: it don't look like we when they come back. So
Speaker 1: when they come back, it looked like I made it,
Speaker 1: not we made it. So when they show up with
Speaker 1: the I made it talk, what happens is, nigga, they
Speaker 1: become a target. Now I try to keep myself as
Speaker 1: a target. When you left, of course, it ain't about
Speaker 1: what you came back with. Yeah it is. No, it's
Speaker 1: nothing you could. You can't be a target. Frame to
Speaker 1: be a target though. Soon as you left the hood,
Speaker 1: your reach though, No, you're not the people still right there.
Speaker 1: You gonna come home eventually, That's true. When you left,
Speaker 1: whether you left on good terms in your hood of tha?
Speaker 1: Are you better than us because you left? I think
Speaker 1: you the ship because you move to such and such?
Speaker 1: Are you want to you want to ruck with us?
Speaker 1: No more. That's true. Whether you got it or not,
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Your people still there, do you
Speaker 1: know what I many of them guys go to the league,
Speaker 1: or go get that wrap money, or go get that
Speaker 1: business real estate money, and go back and say, Mama,
Speaker 1: we made it. I'm finna move you out of here.
Speaker 1: She looking right in the face, saying, no the fuck
Speaker 1: you ain't, because I ain't going nowhere. I don't know
Speaker 1: nothing else. It ain't. I ain't never wanted this the
Speaker 1: house I wanted. I raised my kids here. This is
Speaker 1: it for me. I ain't going nowhere. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: people who don't, never want to, whose parents don't want
Speaker 1: to move out that house. Yeah, that's true, granted is
Speaker 1: in all so sometimes even if your money right, you
Speaker 1: can't move your people because they don't want to move.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Granted, don't want to move. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: want that big I don't want to do all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna do it for
Speaker 1: you granted, I'm gonna get you. I don't want to that.
Speaker 1: I don't want all that. You definitely got that vibe
Speaker 1: out them. It's a lot of people like that who don't.
Speaker 1: Who even if they hit that lick, they not leaving
Speaker 1: the hood, leaving whatever they plan. That's crazy, But it
Speaker 1: makes sense too because I know them people. I know
Speaker 1: them people, man, but see they as a rapper. It's
Speaker 1: a little different, bro, because even the O g rappers
Speaker 1: like boosts to say, yo, get that money, get from
Speaker 1: down now. Because even if your intentions is pure, the
Speaker 1: circumstances is rare. Man. You don't put yourself amongst kings, man,
Speaker 1: and you just don't drink beer around wine sippers. Man.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about it. You don't even have to
Speaker 1: be a rapper. Look at it on the smaller scale.
Speaker 1: You could just be a nigga work for the city,
Speaker 1: whoever saturdays when he ain't at work, or you know,
Speaker 1: you like to fix a car, you like to go
Speaker 1: to the car show, take your dog out, let the
Speaker 1: kids run around, throw a little something on the grill,
Speaker 1: put your chain on, put your put your you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, put your ship on, put your outfit
Speaker 1: on be yourself just because youre a nigga with a
Speaker 1: clean air call on the east side, Do you not
Speaker 1: understand it's some more niggas on the east Side that
Speaker 1: hate you for that, of course. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is you're gonna have it. You're gonna head on face.
Speaker 1: The leaving, Paul, you don't have enemies no matter what
Speaker 1: it is you're doing in life or where it is
Speaker 1: you stay. But the coming back, Paul bro the leaving
Speaker 1: and going to get something that they feel like they
Speaker 1: can't attained and they're coming back. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: a little rough, you know, motherfucker. Some motherfuckers is just
Speaker 1: natural born hater facts that see it. That's literally what
Speaker 1: they put here to do. They it's just it's internal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that hate come from deep down inside. No matter
Speaker 1: what what they got going on, they ain't never gonna
Speaker 1: like what the next person doing. Ship same way. Mother
Speaker 1: fucking killed CoA cheese man, cool it hot just because
Speaker 1: he was about to go to school and he was
Speaker 1: that nigga bro brouh. That's how it be fucked up
Speaker 1: out here. But you need it, that's the balance. That's
Speaker 1: a fact, man. That's that's that's the opposite side of
Speaker 1: this ship. You're gonna get a whole lot of love,
Speaker 1: but even if you get a little bit of hate,
Speaker 1: it's gonna still be heavy. It's gonna be heavy, man,
Speaker 1: that that hate. But you need that that fuel to
Speaker 1: keep going. And knowing that you ain't perfect get will
Speaker 1: you ever be? Though? Nah? So are you striving for
Speaker 1: it knowing you won't be it? Nah? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you have to try to strive to be perfect,
Speaker 1: so even when you fall short, you at least try
Speaker 1: it hard enough to be a good person. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yea, Like, you'll never be perfect, but
Speaker 1: you can be good, right, You can definitely be a
Speaker 1: good person or a great person, excellent. She'll never be
Speaker 1: perfect because God made us imperfect. You can never The
Speaker 1: most you could be is a ninety nine. You'll never
Speaker 1: be one hundred. Right. Yeah, welcome this up there podcast.
Speaker 1: I go by Big Loan, your active and attractive hosts. Man,
Speaker 1: we already been rolling, but I do want to introduce
Speaker 1: the podcast today. I got a tycoon in the comedian space,
Speaker 1: a ty coon in the podcast content space. An actor.
Speaker 1: The guy is all over the place and killing shit.
Speaker 1: I got Colos Miller, what's going on. I appreciate going
Speaker 1: onciate you. I appreciate you having me. It's always always dope,
Speaker 1: the chop it up which and go back and have
Speaker 1: verbal combat and shit. Yeah, I love it, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you one of the only guys that I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: br got those ideas like me, like where it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you done thought about a number of things, most definitely,
Speaker 1: And I find that in people that do comedy a lot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I find that people that
Speaker 1: in comedy, at least the people I bump into and
Speaker 1: then I've studied, they have a lot of thoughts and
Speaker 1: opinions on things. Yeah, because comedy will changed your brain chemistry,
Speaker 1: the way that you think about things, and then you
Speaker 1: just once you learn how to like start filtering life
Speaker 1: real life through like your creative process, you look at
Speaker 1: everything different. I don't even know if that makes sense
Speaker 1: to people who don't do that, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like creative people the way you
Speaker 1: see things, like artists look at life different, like people
Speaker 1: who can paint, people who can draw, or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, people who do stuff with their hands
Speaker 1: who can build shit, They just have a different little
Speaker 1: level that they could take shit, like people who could
Speaker 1: do math in their head. They could just take it
Speaker 1: to another level of that regular people don't. And once
Speaker 1: you start looking for the humor, even in the worst situations,
Speaker 1: it's just changed your whole perspective on shit. I have
Speaker 1: so many and like you spend your time just having,
Speaker 1: like you said, your own thoughts and being in your
Speaker 1: own world, so just having your own opinion when something
Speaker 1: pop up. Yeah, I always like to wait and just
Speaker 1: see what happened first, because I love to go back
Speaker 1: to the you know how, like when it be some
Speaker 1: shit and they be like, man, it's hysterio or like
Speaker 1: somebody trending or some shit or whatever the situation is.
Speaker 1: I always like to be like, oh, look, old, look,
Speaker 1: don't say nothing yet. Wait wait, wait, because it's always
Speaker 1: gonna be that's when the most ridiculous stuff come out.
Speaker 1: And because remember when COVID came out there it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, black people can't get this shit, Like what Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that part, bro. I do that on purpose, right,
Speaker 1: So with like pop culture, I have a side of
Speaker 1: the podcast I do with no guess it's just me
Speaker 1: in the camera. Yeah, you need shit like that. And
Speaker 1: so when I do that, I talk about topics, but
Speaker 1: I always wait because I don't even want to be
Speaker 1: involved in the clickbait shit. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: and then I want to have an opinion that's like
Speaker 1: formatting on it. I don't want to be swayed by
Speaker 1: what everybody's saying right now, because when you listen to
Speaker 1: these opinions come out, they usually along the same lines.
Speaker 1: When stuff like that happens, it's like everybody's kind of
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. It's just he dropped his partcast
Speaker 1: on Monday, he dropped Tuesday. They all saying the same
Speaker 1: fucking thing. But you know what's crazy is, though, like
Speaker 1: as you get deeper into the industry or the entertainment world,
Speaker 1: it ain't until one of those stories pop out that
Speaker 1: you really know what really happened to make you look
Speaker 1: at all that shit totally different, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like when some shit come out and it's something
Speaker 1: that's close to somebody that you know, or people that's involved,
Speaker 1: or things that you heard about prior to it coming out,
Speaker 1: you're like, why it's coming out? Now it's old. This happened.
Speaker 1: Damn this shit old right, Damn that ain't what happened. Right,
Speaker 1: then you be like, oh, they gotta they gotta put
Speaker 1: some sauce on it, in it. Yeah, it's ridiculous and
Speaker 1: it's fucked up that that's the way that we have
Speaker 1: to be entertained. And I think it's like that ship.
Speaker 1: That type of shit is okay and it's acceptable, but
Speaker 1: it can't be our source of real news exactly. Our
Speaker 1: entertainment can't be our news. But they've got it mistaken
Speaker 1: because they don't understand. See, we went from we think
Speaker 1: that just get informed. We don't understand what misinformed on
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff because they think it's better than
Speaker 1: having no information or disinformed. Right. We're told that you
Speaker 1: dumb if you don't know nothing, so just tell me something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I said, that can't be our entertainment, can't
Speaker 1: be our news, right because it's just like having vegetables
Speaker 1: on the plate. We might not always like it, but
Speaker 1: we need to hear real ships facts. We don't need
Speaker 1: to just hear the sauce, right, We need to hit
Speaker 1: the real shit so we can really make honest opinions
Speaker 1: about how we move forward as a culture, as a people,
Speaker 1: as a race. How can we prevent some shit from
Speaker 1: happening if we just keep getting the hyped up, sensationalized version,
Speaker 1: like give us the whole facts of this shit? And
Speaker 1: you know what, That's why when I had these conversations
Speaker 1: on the part, I like to just have conversations. I
Speaker 1: don't like and I don't talk to people who certain
Speaker 1: people that are asked me, yo, what what's the questions
Speaker 1: or something like that, I don't even talk to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really like. I think that's one thing that's
Speaker 1: getting overlooked. We don't do a lot of interviews, right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we just want to have real life, organic conversations.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you can when it's somebody you're a fan
Speaker 1: of and you got interview type questions or you know,
Speaker 1: shit that you always wanted to ask him. You're asking,
Speaker 1: but it ain't like you gotta so tell me how
Speaker 1: we're we're you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Unanswered question? Yeah, things that hasn't been answered yet.
Speaker 1: But to bring somebody in and like, so, how did
Speaker 1: you yo, that's not what we are? How did you
Speaker 1: start the Yeah, come on, bro's so much what we're doing.
Speaker 1: We're too unique for that with sometimes you need to
Speaker 1: do that. So because you you're on different platforms and
Speaker 1: they have different audiences and you can be you do
Speaker 1: have to be introduced to ship. But but but but
Speaker 1: we do introduce it, but it's not the layered introduction
Speaker 1: the way they do it. So how does it do it?
Speaker 1: So how did you do this? So how did you
Speaker 1: It's like it's a it's an overarching introduction of what
Speaker 1: we're talking about and then we dig into whatever we're
Speaker 1: talking about it on it. But you answered a lot
Speaker 1: of these questions that that people ask over and over
Speaker 1: about some of these things. I mean, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think podcasting is at least on this side,
Speaker 1: I try to bring something what we just have a
Speaker 1: natural conversation. And but you had a lot of good
Speaker 1: gifts on there. You was getting you was going back
Speaker 1: and forth with doctor Umar and shit got it got
Speaker 1: some intense moments. That was a government. That's hard man.
Speaker 1: Keep doing your thing, bro, Yeah, now we building. I
Speaker 1: love to see different outlets. I love to see different
Speaker 1: interviews and you know, just get different perspectives. When I'm
Speaker 1: at the crib and I'm just chilling, I click on
Speaker 1: everybody shit just to see I know you you consume
Speaker 1: a lot, man, Yeah, you know all the rap niggas
Speaker 1: that come in up you be knowing shit. Bro. I'm
Speaker 1: still a fan of the other culture of you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I get to look at the ship
Speaker 1: as a grown ass man now, right and religious, you know, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I see what they're doing, right, see what they're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: does some things. Yeah, I think that doctor Umar wan Man.
Speaker 2: For me, it kind of changed.
Speaker 1: How I look at things now because I said, oh,
Speaker 1: what you mean with the content world, right, there's niches,
Speaker 1: there's things that only certain people can do well, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think if I can polish my live show,
Speaker 1: because that was a live show, that was a sold
Speaker 1: out live show, yeah, with me and him, and I
Speaker 1: think if I can polish that and do that, right,
Speaker 1: I think that it's something there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just think I and I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: people adopt that, you know, adopt certain elements of even
Speaker 1: that conversation and reference that conversation when they speak with
Speaker 1: Umar that booked him after that, Like a lot of
Speaker 1: people referenced that, like yo, Man, I saw you on
Speaker 1: and man, y'all were talking about Dion and they got
Speaker 1: to do an interview with him. I wouldn't even say shit,
Speaker 1: I just let him talk here you go. I would.
Speaker 1: I just I would. He could literally just come on
Speaker 1: my platform and just talk. I ain't got shit to
Speaker 1: ask him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, and I changed how people dealing with him.
Speaker 1: Now people are now doing a versus thing with him,
Speaker 1: and I don't really like that because I didn't do
Speaker 1: a If you listen to that conversation, we really had
Speaker 1: some like I tried to get him to explain a
Speaker 1: little more. He was right making his points, but I
Speaker 1: want to dig into that. Why is that? Why you
Speaker 1: think that? Why do you think somebody would do that?
Speaker 1: And for me, I just think it added to that.
Speaker 1: Well that that's kind of that. I can see how
Speaker 1: that could be. Uh, that could be frustrating. I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you keep asking a nigga, why ask me? Why?
Speaker 1: N Now he respect He respects me too much for
Speaker 1: that though. Listen, you gotta think that's his fifth time
Speaker 1: coming on my show. He the only person that came
Speaker 1: that much, and he hit me balls. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: big part. That's hey man, that's dope. But but you know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that there's just respect that so
Speaker 1: he knew that. Yo. I was trying to get him
Speaker 1: to explain to his audience some of those things, like
Speaker 1: we got the next one that come out next week,
Speaker 1: and so we're going we get intense about some things
Speaker 1: that now has come out that I was right about
Speaker 1: because I told him that you did you see the
Speaker 1: girl that and it'll probably be out by the time
Speaker 1: it's come out, but did you see the girl that
Speaker 1: had the big knot on the face and said a
Speaker 1: dude asked for my number and they didn't give it
Speaker 1: to me and these black men let me get the
Speaker 1: brick lady. Yeah, you know he went crazed on black
Speaker 1: men about that. You kle with stupid mother, But think
Speaker 1: about it, that's one off situation. She did ass wrong
Speaker 1: for that. But this nigga's out there that'd be actually
Speaker 1: that probably needed to hear that. And that's what he
Speaker 1: was saying. That's it, That's what he was. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you don't get Yeah, I said, damn,
Speaker 1: you give grace to the black woman in this conversation.
Speaker 1: You give grace to I said, what do you say
Speaker 1: to the black men that say you're too hard. You
Speaker 1: don't give any grace to them, even in situations where
Speaker 1: you're wrong about this girl saying black men didn't defend
Speaker 1: her when this is an allergic reaction, and he was
Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm not going to retract it because
Speaker 1: they need to hear that. And they's still a valiant point,
Speaker 1: but it's like one is directed at that at one
Speaker 1: particular incident that's that's false. Then it just loses valid right,
Speaker 1: and I think, do great. It's gonna do great on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Because we go back and forth. He get heated, he
Speaker 1: telling me because I'm saying, yo, why black men gotta
Speaker 1: be blame for everything? You know, because that's our role
Speaker 1: to be blame for everything. That's a role that was
Speaker 1: given to us that we would never ask for. That's
Speaker 1: just part of it. As one of the drawbacks of
Speaker 1: being a black man. It comes with it. We always
Speaker 1: gonna be at fault because think about it, what have
Speaker 1: niggas ever done to anybody but each other? Thank you? Niggas.
Speaker 1: Don't do nothing be for that's that's that's abuse. The violence.
Speaker 1: It's transferred. It's just a transferred violence. That's it. Even
Speaker 1: that ain't a niggas fault. When when you deal with Netflix?
Speaker 1: What was that about? Did y'all have to audition? How
Speaker 1: do you get a deal with Netflix? How does that happen?
Speaker 1: What do you mean a deal? How do you get
Speaker 1: a content licensing deal? Who do you mean with Netflix? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they licensed y'all content or did they buy
Speaker 1: that purchase that piece of content? I guess I'm asking
Speaker 1: what happened with your Netflix situation? Man? Just doing those
Speaker 1: live shows? Just like if you think about what we
Speaker 1: do when we go out and we record these live
Speaker 1: shows and we put them out on the platform, Bro,
Speaker 1: we really producing and dropping a special every week. Why
Speaker 1: not link with the biggest platform that does that. It's
Speaker 1: just a natural progression, you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: saw what we were doing. They send their team out, They
Speaker 1: send some people out, some people get on some phone
Speaker 1: calls back and forth. It's a few lunches, it's a
Speaker 1: few emails. It's a process. It ain't just like they
Speaker 1: show up with the paperwork you get, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It takes years to close the deal like that almost
Speaker 1: definitely ain't violent. We got d C and the building. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Yeah, that's that's It takes years to make some
Speaker 1: ship like that, at least a year or two just
Speaker 1: to make sure that the business is right and everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be satisfied with the terms and conditions right, things
Speaker 1: of that nature. So big shout out to the whole
Speaker 1: department over there in Netflix, man, especially anybody that got
Speaker 1: something to do with the black people content on that
Speaker 1: app that department, whatever department there, for sure, because y'all
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit, for sure, for sure to try
Speaker 1: to even hold that up and hold that down over there,
Speaker 1: because they can whitewash that if they want. For the
Speaker 1: most part, just hearing that the people that own Fox
Speaker 1: own To broke my heart. We're gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: in a little bit. They didn't even all the way,
Speaker 1: but a little bit, ain't you get it? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can get in. It's kind of like finding out chick
Speaker 1: that you you've been knocking off used to talk to
Speaker 1: one of your partners. I ain't no, you know, you
Speaker 1: got their background checks on people, right, but you know,
Speaker 1: but even that even that anyway, any anytime, even if
Speaker 1: they even if it's that they still letting niggas go
Speaker 1: over there and do their thing. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say that doing anything, yeah, but not letting. I think
Speaker 1: they're using that as like they use us to get
Speaker 1: the wheels on it, to get the car rolling, and
Speaker 1: then in a minute, this this is how we can
Speaker 1: count that. We gotta use that to get to the
Speaker 1: next step. We can't just let that be it. Then,
Speaker 1: if that's the attitude behind it, we need to be
Speaker 1: working on an exit strategy right now. Then if that's
Speaker 1: the emotion behind it, we either love it or we
Speaker 1: hate it, because if we step it as we love it,
Speaker 1: it's gonna blow. But if we ain't fucking with it,
Speaker 1: it needs to be said out us. They know how
Speaker 1: to trick us. We can't allow. We can't allow. Guess
Speaker 1: how they trick us though, and centivize us with a
Speaker 1: little paper boy. That's how Trump got us. That's how
Speaker 1: they all get us. Trump didn't get us what he
Speaker 1: didn't get us. What you think he got us? What
Speaker 1: he got the niggas that wanted to be got. No,
Speaker 1: he got THEA ain't talking about I'm talking about. He
Speaker 1: ain't getting black people as a whole. For the most part,
Speaker 1: they're not paying close attention. He didn't get me with
Speaker 1: the passage. What if they are though, What if that's
Speaker 1: the real what if they are paying the information? Don't
Speaker 1: say that we're not collective. We don't work together about nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Fuck around and try to
Speaker 1: pass some ship that sneak fucking around, then actually work
Speaker 1: for the benefit of people he don't even fuck with.
Speaker 1: Of course you get know what I'm saying. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but but we just went to look at what he
Speaker 1: does as who he is. He he he a crook too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, now what I'm saying, he got That's why
Speaker 1: I say he got us. I ain't said he did
Speaker 1: nothing that was upstanding. This is the thing about love
Speaker 1: a villain, and we love to feel like winning. I
Speaker 1: don't want it to sound like I fucked with him.
Speaker 1: It's some people we love to feel like we winning.
Speaker 1: I feel like he just even if we're not winning,
Speaker 1: though he do so much bad ship that they are
Speaker 1: driving old Mercedes, a Nigga driver, old Mercedes for the
Speaker 1: fact that it's a Mercedes. We love to just feel
Speaker 1: like it's a win. It don't even matter, bro. So
Speaker 1: what are you saying that black people set no no
Speaker 1: I Secedes? Yeah, of course, But I'm talking it's just
Speaker 1: the one he wanted. No, no, no, I ain't talking
Speaker 1: about him. I'm talking about the guy that drives it
Speaker 1: when his money could have got him a new, reliable vehicle.
Speaker 1: He could have you call to make it ain't my call,
Speaker 1: but it's a responsible call to make. No, it's nothing.
Speaker 1: If he's driving that car, that's his business. But he's
Speaker 1: forcing it. He's acting like he's driving the like I
Speaker 1: know niggas that will put the keys out on they on,
Speaker 1: they hang the keys out over they third. A minute.
Speaker 1: You overlooking something very understand you looking at it like
Speaker 1: an old car. The nigga who owned the car that
Speaker 1: might be his motherfucking one, that might be the one
Speaker 1: that he wants. Yeah, and I'm not just millions of
Speaker 1: dollars in. You don't see me in this mother You
Speaker 1: bring ninety one cutless, Yeah, nigga, I fucked with ninety
Speaker 1: one cutlass. This one. I'm talking about specific guy. I
Speaker 1: ain't talking about the guy who. So we gotta have
Speaker 1: context of our conversation. Let's bag up a little bit,
Speaker 1: because we unpacked a lot of things we talked about
Speaker 1: to b in by five seconds right there, we talked
Speaker 1: about to be doctor Ouhmar and a few other things.
Speaker 1: Shut out the doctor, shut out to doctor Umar. Ever,
Speaker 1: put some respect on what I'm saying. All I'm saying
Speaker 1: is all I'm saying is we like to feel like
Speaker 1: we win when I see black people we're slaves as symbols.
Speaker 1: No we're not. We gotta stop thinking like that. No,
Speaker 1: this is the proof, bro. We spend all our money
Speaker 1: in the consumer market. Who believes why google it? Why
Speaker 1: because we're slaves of symbols. We're going to get Nike,
Speaker 1: we go get Mercedes, we go get all these were slaves.
Speaker 1: Then what then? We put our money back in the community.
Speaker 1: We buy houses, we buy hospitals. Do that builds the
Speaker 1: community up. The money still has to be spent, but
Speaker 1: it builds our own community. It circulates to our community.
Speaker 1: We take all the money we make and go spend
Speaker 1: it on things we don't own, that aren't like just
Speaker 1: bullshit is owned by other people. So what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is we're slaves to the consumer market and symbolisms. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that. Tell me how give me give me
Speaker 1: something something indicator that says whatnot because there is no
Speaker 1: wei they spend billions of dollars on weave every every year.
Speaker 1: Black women do. That's their business. Of course, that's their budding.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you that they don't need weave. They
Speaker 1: buy this is fake hair, horse hairs, some boys what
Speaker 1: they want, of course, but I'm free. Will You ain't
Speaker 1: listening to me. You're saying, okay, So I'm saying we're
Speaker 1: slaves to the consumer market with why we spending our
Speaker 1: money in a way, because we live in a capitalistic society.
Speaker 1: If you don't spend it, it's worthless. Why do we
Speaker 1: spend it in the way that we do because niggas
Speaker 1: the same way you do. Look at you, a nigga,
Speaker 1: gonna watch this man got chain. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Why ain't no better? Why you ain't if that's in
Speaker 1: the black community. Now I've in you can't be a
Speaker 1: hypocrite on the platform. I ain't a hypocrite. Yes you are,
Speaker 1: but you're just saying we slaves and you want bought
Speaker 1: all them change. I was a hypocrite, I say, y'all,
Speaker 1: you said we that mean I'm not a hypocrite. Well
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying everybody that. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: we That mean I'm not a hrep creative. I say, y'all,
Speaker 1: that means I'm separating from y'all. I'm saying we I
Speaker 1: got a Mercedes. I'm a slave to this same ship.
Speaker 1: I wear the ship. Those are choices that you made.
Speaker 1: You could have easily not made them. Of course you're
Speaker 1: gonna fuck some of this money off, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. Well, why are you yelling at them? Who's yelling?
Speaker 1: But what when you're saying we are slaves? People gonna
Speaker 1: hear anything, like, what the fuck is you talking about that?
Speaker 1: We're not claiming that. Anybody hears that and say and
Speaker 1: says that that wastemen? What wastemen? No, we don't use
Speaker 1: those terms in America.
Speaker 2: We're in America right now.
Speaker 1: Just wastemen. Yeah, I'm listening to Drake. I don't say that.
Speaker 1: I look like he's a waistman, nigga work for the
Speaker 1: garbage company. No, he's a waste man. That's my word.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is there is no way to
Speaker 1: universally speak for all blacks. Said that. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is like, you can't they spend a billion dollars on
Speaker 1: weied I think you do. You got a phone or Google? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need to spend some time on it, because if
Speaker 1: by the numbers you district, we can't keep using the
Speaker 1: same arguments for the last thirty years. Who is I
Speaker 1: ain't never saying this. Struck made a whole movie called
Speaker 1: good Head and said that now it's a billion trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: I never whatever black women spend on their hair. Do
Speaker 1: you understand that white people outnumber Black people in America?
Speaker 1: Like six or six to thirteen or one or some
Speaker 1: shit we wave? Fuck, we are just the fuck they
Speaker 1: do not that black. Yes, they do. If it's if
Speaker 1: they outnumber us by that man, that means that it's
Speaker 1: stuck in. White women buy more ten times more white
Speaker 1: women in America bying weave than Black women. Yes, I
Speaker 1: believe it's saying period. By numbers of people, Yes, by
Speaker 1: volume alone, we are still in last place.
Speaker 2: What we're talking about, we're talking about you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's play let's play the Devil's Advocate. Long. What
Speaker 1: would happen if black women stop spending money on we
Speaker 1: What would happen? Well? Nothing, if they have no direction
Speaker 1: with what to do, and if and if us as
Speaker 1: black men don't accept them with their natural heir. Okay,
Speaker 1: so if black men the overall problem again, we are slaves,
Speaker 1: this is okay, this is free will Yeah, but a
Speaker 1: lot of dudes want to see they women with the
Speaker 1: They don't want to what the her natural heir? They'll
Speaker 1: tell it, Go get a hair done. We can't ignore this.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Are you playing some game? Were
Speaker 1: you ignoring these things? No? I just think that these
Speaker 1: arguments are dated. None of that ship would change anything
Speaker 1: about the structure of America, not without any direction. Well
Speaker 1: that even with the direction, people still gonna do what
Speaker 1: the fuck they want to do, and bad what they
Speaker 1: want to buy. It's already hard enough to be a
Speaker 1: nigga in America. Ain't nobody find to not fucking try
Speaker 1: to make the most of it. It's certain shit. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to bay make most of it. Increase your
Speaker 1: quality of life of it. They have done such a
Speaker 1: number on black people that we buy this ship to
Speaker 1: try to hide and mass the insticators that they gave.
Speaker 1: Told me, I can't speak for black people, and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you can't, but you can't. You just what
Speaker 1: you've just done. You just told me Nigga just said,
Speaker 1: we ain't doing this because we've been through hell and
Speaker 1: just told me I can't speak for black ain't that ament,
Speaker 1: ain't that there is a reason for everything. Don't listen,
Speaker 1: you get lost. There's a reason for everything. Don't listen,
Speaker 1: you get lost. You literally argue me for seven to
Speaker 1: ten minutes that I can't speak for black people, and
Speaker 1: proceeded to say when you make a when you make
Speaker 1: an outrageous statement like what we slaves, have some facts
Speaker 1: from it, like we slaves, We slaves to symbols, don't
Speaker 1: we not slaves to nothing? Man? Were not slaves to ship?
Speaker 1: That's weird, how it is weird? Baby? Man? You must
Speaker 1: don't know the intensity of slavery actually is. I ain't
Speaker 1: slave to a motherfucking thing. We spend our money, likes
Speaker 1: I say this, Let's rephrase that we spend our money
Speaker 1: like we're slaves to symbolism. Well, that's because we live
Speaker 1: in a capitalistic society. If we live somewhere where money
Speaker 1: it didn't, well, love was the currency, we would be
Speaker 1: out here loving the fuck out each other.
Speaker 2: Who says isn't the currency? Not in this country?
Speaker 1: Who says that the people who founded this country on
Speaker 1: capitalism says that once you know as a nigga who's
Speaker 1: been in the streets, but there'sn't even who in media,
Speaker 1: ain't you don't mix love and money? I don't, But
Speaker 1: there's people living in this country that is love based.
Speaker 1: You know, you're speaking for the whole country. You told
Speaker 1: me I can't speak, No, I'm speaking. I'm speaking from
Speaker 1: my little one for black people, my little one sixty
Speaker 1: six million, the same way that I'm sitting here saying shit,
Speaker 1: there is nothing we could say that a university applied
Speaker 1: to all black people. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: So especially for the for the whole cost country you see,
Speaker 1: and so for you to say in the country, this
Speaker 1: country ain't got no love. It's like, bro, it's some
Speaker 1: people in this country right now don't care about no Mercedes.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck about a name brand. They
Speaker 1: don't care about a lifestyle or nothing given in the woods.
Speaker 1: You know why, because they can't afford that shit. You
Speaker 1: have to act like you don't want people going on
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan podcasts all the time. There's millionaires that live
Speaker 1: in the wards. Just cubb thinking how many people who
Speaker 1: go on there who just comedians who are doing gig
Speaker 1: to gig though they're going on there hoping to be millionaires. Facts.
Speaker 1: But we live in the type of society where you
Speaker 1: need money to live fu get the full experience of
Speaker 1: this shit. Now, if we lived in somewhere where we
Speaker 1: had to go out and find our own food and
Speaker 1: be entertained by the people who we live around, and
Speaker 1: live in the community and be around people, and like
Speaker 1: I said, love was the currency and we didn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about how much money we had in the
Speaker 1: bank and shit like that, and we were outside for real,
Speaker 1: then we it would be another something else. But we
Speaker 1: live in America. Do you think does Netflix try to
Speaker 1: Does Netflix own their content or y'all own what content
Speaker 1: that y'all did for them? Did they pay all for
Speaker 1: it or did they? Now it's a it's different, it's
Speaker 1: a different situation. We produced it and worked with a
Speaker 1: production company, and once they put it on the platform,
Speaker 1: they gonna have it on there for however long they're
Speaker 1: gonna have it on there, and then it is what
Speaker 1: it is. So will it be on the eighty five Apple?
Speaker 1: I guess it's my question. At some point, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's interesting though,
Speaker 1: maybe it's something to look into it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess that's a piece of content if they know. But
Speaker 1: it's like it's not to duck the question, like we
Speaker 1: own some of it, but of course they're not gonna
Speaker 1: let us own all of it and it ain't one
Speaker 1: of them type of I think they they're interested in
Speaker 1: owning the content that's on their platform a different game.
Speaker 1: But see, we played a different game too, because it's
Speaker 1: like you have to use that leverage to get in
Speaker 1: the game. They're always gonna get you on this. That's
Speaker 1: why they come and give Shapelle forty million, because it's saying, listen,
Speaker 1: we want to own this. We don't want to play
Speaker 1: the game where you you know, own it, and we
Speaker 1: want to give you forty and we want it. Is
Speaker 1: that okay? Do you believe that that's what their best
Speaker 1: was being reported? And even giving hard who would report that?
Speaker 1: Think about how this ship works Netflix? Why would they
Speaker 1: do that? Why would they go and tell somebody the
Speaker 1: details of a contract that they got with because I
Speaker 1: guess they want to they want to level the market
Speaker 1: for what would like you? Why would they want to
Speaker 1: do that because they don't want you to be unreasonable
Speaker 1: and think it's a forty million dollar number on a
Speaker 1: comic without it being ownership on their side. Why would
Speaker 1: you what would make you think they would give just
Speaker 1: give Dave Chapelle all this money? I believe Dave Chappell
Speaker 1: would be worth forty million dollars. What do you mean
Speaker 1: worth for three specials? What do you mean worth? You said?
Speaker 2: What would make me think they would give him the money?
Speaker 2: It speaks to his work.
Speaker 1: They don't give nobody ship. That's what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get you to understand. Nothing in this business is given.
Speaker 1: They didn't give Dave Chappelle this money. They know how
Speaker 1: much money that he is gonna generate. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: they know how much the same They can say, Hey Loen,
Speaker 1: we love your podcast. We would love to sign you
Speaker 1: the Netflix and give you a special. We know that
Speaker 1: you generate money. We know that we can go say
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars worth of ads against you coming
Speaker 1: to our platform. That's why you get these numbers. They
Speaker 1: don't just pull numbers.
Speaker 2: And I got deals everywhere.
Speaker 1: No, but the way that you say it, you're gonna
Speaker 1: mislead people and make them think that they just tell
Speaker 1: me what I said that they gave that man that money. Nah,
Speaker 1: come on, man, they know what I'm talking about. They
Speaker 1: don't give nobody shit. You think that. Yeah, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about why they came and offered him forty million. Dous
Speaker 1: Anybody that's below that style that don't watch this show.
Speaker 1: People watching this show know when I say Netflix gave
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle afforded me, they ain't. Just ain't nobody nice
Speaker 1: in this world. We ain't talking like that. We're talking
Speaker 1: about business. But you gotta understand that that ain't We
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's the number, whatever the number is.
Speaker 1: We know they're interested in owning the content on that
Speaker 1: platform because I hear comics time and time again speak
Speaker 1: to that big comics speak to yo. The reason why
Speaker 1: the front end is so much is because they're interested
Speaker 1: in owning it and not showing the numbers, not even
Speaker 1: giving you real data as to what it done. They'll
Speaker 1: tell you something, but that's the thing about it. I'll
Speaker 1: be trying to get you to think, get out of
Speaker 1: this mindset. They don't have to give you ship if
Speaker 1: you're in betting with somebody. They don't got to show
Speaker 1: you the number. They gonna show you. It's number six
Speaker 1: on the little thing of the like I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You know you're in the business, Sam'd get you to
Speaker 1: understand demographics and things. The numbers, that's what you're not listening.
Speaker 1: I'm never saying, fuck the numbers. Fuck the numbers, because
Speaker 1: watch this. If I'm Netflix, I'm never saying it's my platform.
Speaker 1: Do you understand I could put any fucking thing I
Speaker 1: wanted you. That's what I'm saying. So you, as a consumer,
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch, not your consumer, as I'm saying, as
Speaker 1: somebody watching my platform. If I put eighty five South
Speaker 1: in number six and and they ain't even it ain't
Speaker 1: even came out yet, it's the first day, they gonna
Speaker 1: think that this ship got some big numbers behind.
Speaker 2: It, I ain't got nothing to do with what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You just said. I said, the hard numbers, the demographics
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Okay, when someone there's value to every viewer,
Speaker 1: there's an ad company that wants to sell something to
Speaker 1: every person that clicks on the eighty five South podcast.
Speaker 1: Looking at it in a small I'm looking at it,
Speaker 1: how Netflix looking at it. They're selling that data. Broa minute,
Speaker 1: Netflix the whole cos everybody's selling data right in a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you to even understand what Netflix is.
Speaker 1: It's the Netflix. This is where you watch all the
Speaker 1: movies at right. Yeah, you think that it's just they
Speaker 1: got one Netflix deal. Do you understand they got ads
Speaker 1: against every movie on this mother whole point I'm making.
Speaker 1: This is a trillion dollar compt of course, so I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that, but taking mind with it being a
Speaker 1: trillion dollar company, every number counts. That's why on YouTube
Speaker 1: and things, you can't have fake views and certain things
Speaker 1: because they added in this because they're selling ads against it.
Speaker 1: So what happens is Netflix is taking that hard data
Speaker 1: that they're telling you it is useless. And it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that you were this hiring the business and thinking this
Speaker 1: data is useless when this data is so important. You look,
Speaker 1: you not even hearing with I'm listening, go ahead, you're
Speaker 1: not hearing with them? And how many? How many motherfuckers
Speaker 1: have a Netflix account? First of all, plenty everybody? Do
Speaker 1: you think they give a fuck what you're watching on there?
Speaker 1: Or they want you to have this account? Who the company.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you think they give a truck what you watch.
Speaker 1: They don't fucking write I do. You can have a
Speaker 1: Netflix account and never watch nothing. You don't watch Netflix
Speaker 1: every day. I think there's extreme value in what is
Speaker 1: actually being watched on Netflix. One hundred percent think that
Speaker 1: the value of Netflix lives in the people that are
Speaker 1: actually watching. I do think you're subscription in the mind,
Speaker 1: because if they gave a fuck if you watched it
Speaker 1: or not, the shit will be free. No, it's not free.
Speaker 1: This shit is twenty dollars a month. Twenty five dollars
Speaker 1: a month, Yeah, and then debt every month from a
Speaker 1: bend in perspective. So what I'm telling you is it's
Speaker 1: a game being played. They have a subscription model where
Speaker 1: people are paying the twenty dollars a month. But if
Speaker 1: you're telling me that you think that the actual viewership
Speaker 1: of a company like Netflix is none and void, that's absurd. Bro.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is they sell ads against the viewership
Speaker 1: of that company, against the click through rate. They don't
Speaker 1: sell ads just on based on who's signed up. They
Speaker 1: sell ads verse the click through rate. All right, lord,
Speaker 1: it's way more complicated than that. I'm Okay, tell me
Speaker 1: because I'm in it, tell me I know you in
Speaker 1: it too. We don't have We will be here all
Speaker 1: day for me to have to try to break down
Speaker 1: how these people make all this money off of this ship.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck if you watch this ship
Speaker 1: or not. Honestly, the numbers matter to motherfuckers who give
Speaker 1: a fuck about numbers. The people who trying to buy
Speaker 1: some space. You know, that's what And that's only one
Speaker 1: difference between subscription revenue and ad revenue, right bro, Even
Speaker 1: even without all that, they still straight. Yeah, but as
Speaker 1: a business, you have to sit down like you have
Speaker 1: people in your offices sitting down trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to amplify your app, how to amplify your content,
Speaker 1: how to amplify your comedy on all different levels. And
Speaker 1: you're telling me that these these sections of the business
Speaker 1: don't matter. I'm telling you the viewership is where they sell.
Speaker 1: The ads gets the same way that you guys do
Speaker 1: with your YouTube eighty five South and with your your
Speaker 1: audio with black effects, you sell ads against that audio
Speaker 1: in that video. No, man, do you not understand how
Speaker 1: the fucking world is working right now? Yeah? Netflix is
Speaker 1: just like Google for fucking movies. They got every movie
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking world, every movie you could think of.
Speaker 1: I would argue, damn without with the exceptions of certain movies.
Speaker 1: But if you get a brand new Netflix account at
Speaker 1: your new house and you watch one fucking movie, do
Speaker 1: you not know that they have enough information about you
Speaker 1: to put all the shit that you might possibly in
Speaker 1: your lifetime while you have this faction watch. Have you
Speaker 1: come over my house and I've been watching Rambo and
Speaker 1: all this other shit, It's gonna be some shit on
Speaker 1: my Netflix that you don't even know how to get
Speaker 1: to on your Netflix? Do you not understand that we
Speaker 1: are literally in the fucking matrix. Nah, I get Netflix number.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck if you watch it or not.
Speaker 1: If you don't have it, you're not gonna wear to
Speaker 1: watch Ship at this point. That's it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And for you to say, oh no, this is it's
Speaker 1: not just like, hey, it's not Walmart when you just
Speaker 1: walk in and they got Ship. The these motherfuckers get
Speaker 1: money off on in the site subscriptions. The motherfuckers who
Speaker 1: they know who watched the Ship on TV, who watched
Speaker 1: the Ship on their phone? Who got it on their
Speaker 1: computer on their iPad. But this ship is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest fucking companies in the world. So what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is we we don't even understand the scope of
Speaker 1: this ship, like this is it, Like this motherfucker is huge.
Speaker 1: It's that. Yeah, it is the new way that we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to watch movies from here on that. I
Speaker 1: know that. So they don't give it. They put that,
Speaker 1: they put that, they snuck that the tra tearion with
Speaker 1: the ads, and so they that's that's the thing. That's
Speaker 1: another generation of revenue. So they have a tier where
Speaker 1: you can have no ads. They have a tier where
Speaker 1: you can go you know where, just to see. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show you how good they are being business. You
Speaker 1: actually believe that they losing money? Of course not of
Speaker 1: course nine you said today in the Red every Quest.
Speaker 1: Yeah that, but I'm telling you because they're playing this
Speaker 1: subscription game. Well, when the money come in, they put
Speaker 1: it back out on content because they want to own
Speaker 1: everything that's on their platform. So they spend the most.
Speaker 1: Why you think they stole comedy from HBO? First, it
Speaker 1: was everything that is absurd, That is, you don't think
Speaker 1: that they bullied the market and took comedy from HBO
Speaker 1: by offering comics ubsurves amount of money. No comedy center
Speaker 1: and HBO they took it from them. No, okay, what's
Speaker 1: your argument, agains because I'm a comedian. Okay, so tell me.
Speaker 1: Do you know that HBO could come and give me
Speaker 1: a deal right now and it's still be the ship.
Speaker 1: I can have an HBO special steal HBO ain't within
Speaker 1: No right now, I can argue I believe that now.
Speaker 1: But for a moment, Netflix stole the market from them. Bro,
Speaker 1: they was they was. They took every comic and gave
Speaker 1: them high amounts of money to do specials on Netflix. Bro,
Speaker 1: they turned it down there into a comedian platform. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm arguing with my uncle at the house
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving