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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Water Relaf podcast on the Fish

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Speaker 1: on First Podcast Network. I'm your host no Burger today,

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Speaker 1: I have the pleasure of being joined by someone who

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Speaker 1: doesn't get much time in the spotlight, but is an

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Speaker 1: integral part of the coaching staff for for the Mining Moorleans.

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Speaker 1: He pitched five seasons and the airitors on the Diamondbacks

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Speaker 1: organization before transitioning to a career coaching, which began with

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Speaker 1: the job as the pitching coach of the Missoula Osprey

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and four and eventually led to him

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Speaker 1: getting a job as the bullpen coordinator of the Mining

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Speaker 1: Marlins in twenty twenty, pitching coach for the Dominican Republican

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Speaker 1: this year's World Baseball Classic, and we'll also manage a

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Speaker 1: team in the Dominican Winter League this winter. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: this year, first time, this, first time, this year. His

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Speaker 1: friends call him Beef. Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Welcome mister Wellington Sepaida. How are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm happy that the team is turn

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Speaker 2: arded around in the last week or so and happy

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Speaker 2: that we're making that push for the playoffs. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with your playing career. I haven't found much

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Speaker 1: information about how you first came over to the United

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Speaker 1: States and got involved with the Backs organization. What was

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Speaker 1: that whole process like when you first came over back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: Really I was. I came to the US when I

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Speaker 2: was eleven years old in nineteen eighty five. So I

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Speaker 2: went to school here. I went my last year in

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Speaker 2: elementary school and then I went to Union High School

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Speaker 2: high school. So after I was done playing a high

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Speaker 2: school ball, I went to college in New York City

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Speaker 2: Division one Iona College and from there stopped playing baseball

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Speaker 2: for a year and then decided to go to Dominican

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Speaker 2: and try to you know, sign as a professional. And

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Speaker 2: that's what I did. I went to the Minnican sign

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Speaker 2: and played you know, Dominican summary for one year, and

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Speaker 2: then in nineteen ninety seven, like you said, I came

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Speaker 2: to the US and played through the four minor league levels,

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Speaker 2: which was great, great experience. And that's how you know,

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Speaker 2: my Facebook can restarted.

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Speaker 1: So you bounced around in the DVACS organization for four

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Speaker 1: or five seasons, and at what point did you decide

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Speaker 1: or realized that you were better off in a coaching position.

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Speaker 1: What went into that decision and when did you make

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Speaker 2: Really? U you know every year played a lot of

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Speaker 2: They asked me like, someday when you're done playing, I

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Speaker 2: think you could become a great coach. Just your makeup

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Speaker 2: and you know, bilingual and all that will be very

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Speaker 2: very beneficial for you, I think as a coach later

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Speaker 2: on when you retire. So you know, when I was

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Speaker 2: season in Double A two thousand. In two thousand and

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Speaker 2: I will send down back to Lowe to be around

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Speaker 2: a lot of the young Dominican prospects or Latino prospects

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Speaker 2: because we had also we had a big second guy

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Speaker 2: the pitching in the big Leagus and a lot a

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Speaker 2: he was kind of for me to guide him through

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Speaker 2: end of the year, close to the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: I decided that I think it was time to do that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I talked to the pitching coordinator when

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Speaker 2: they thought he was the right decision for me to make.

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Speaker 2: And that's how my coaching career started.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever look back and have any regrets on

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Speaker 2: No, No, I know it's it's it's tough to make

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Speaker 2: it to the big leagues. People think he's easy. And

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Speaker 2: I kind of had issue with my arm. You know,

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Speaker 2: I was a little older than the other guys that

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned your nickname is Beef, which makes sense

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Speaker 1: because your first name is Wellington, Beef Wellington. But I

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Speaker 1: want to know when did that start, Like, who was

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Speaker 2: The first time was in nineteen ninety seven, the first

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Speaker 2: spring training for the Arizona Diamondbacks. When you have a

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Speaker 2: to me. So Brian Butterfield a third base coach for

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Speaker 2: to me say, can we call you Beef? Wellington is

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Speaker 2: too long? It's three syllables, And I said, perfect, I

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Speaker 1: And last thing before we getting some Marlin specific stuff,

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Speaker 1: WBC and how much are you looking forward for the

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's uh. He was in you know, unbelievable experience.

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Speaker 2: Especially when I got that call from uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: really looking forward for me to be that guy to

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Speaker 2: something that I would never forget. I wasn't keeping in

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Speaker 2: outcome was not the way we wanted. We lost in

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Speaker 2: play better than us. Very simple. You know, he's early

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Speaker 2: That will give players another two weeks of preparation and

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Speaker 2: too early for them. So that's one thing. And about

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Speaker 2: the other question that you asked me about the Dominican

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Speaker 2: to manage a team coach. Well then probably around fourteen

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I always go back to my country

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Speaker 2: and do that winner. And for the team that I'm

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Speaker 2: he's a team that I coach for the longest, so

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited for that. I appreciate it for the

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Speaker 2: I've been around that team for five years in a

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Speaker 2: They love me and I'm looking forward for the challenge.

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Speaker 1: All right, So now you've got in the background and

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Speaker 1: more Marlin specific stuff and more towards your role. Start

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Speaker 1: with it day to day. You're the bookplant coordinator or coach.

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Speaker 2: Which would you prefer? I prefer book pet coach. There's

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Speaker 2: brought Flippo. He does a great job. He keeps everything

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Speaker 2: And but again I think I'm more consider myself over

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Speaker 1: So for those who aren't in the now, what what

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Speaker 2: Again, it's I I'm the assistant the pitching coach. So

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Speaker 1: So before we get telling the timeline events when new

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the first thing I do when I

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Speaker 2: you know, go in the computer, make sure I watch videos,

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Speaker 2: make sure I watch their best pitches, tendencies that they do,

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Speaker 2: after that they just make sure they're come when they're

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Speaker 2: They got to face a hitter and they got to

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Speaker 1: So when that bullpen phone rates, who's on the other end,

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Speaker 1: what's the conversation like, and what are the events that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, usually ninety time will beat mel mel Stottlemeyer will

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Speaker 2: And then for that then it's my job to let

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Speaker 2: what you done so far this year has been unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite song? I know it's tough questions, A

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Speaker 2: I'm a big pachata. I listened to a lot of

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Speaker 2: Oh, maybe a lot of people don't know this. I

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