Speaker 1: So I have a little experience with this because when
Speaker 1: we first met, you had a dog in the bed,
Speaker 1: but that was Busy. Busy is a chihuahua, and he
Speaker 1: only got in the bed. He only got in the
Speaker 1: bed first thing in the morning. He didn't sleep in
Speaker 1: the bed with me. It doesn't matter. He was in
Speaker 1: the bed and he wouldn't even let the dog in
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Guys, like he had the dog had to
Speaker 1: sleep in the kitchen. Now, what's up, everybody. I'm Gammy
Speaker 1: and I'm her husband Rodney, and this is positively damn
Speaker 1: look at this now. Okay, So guys, I have a
Speaker 1: new sometimes cohost my popular demand. I don't know if
Speaker 1: my feelings should be heard or what, but I wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: They actually wanted Rodney. That's right, you know how it is.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that, babe? For you just
Speaker 1: I mean another thing we get to do together. So
Speaker 1: that always makes me feel good. You know. I'm happy
Speaker 1: that I have this opportunity to work with you and
Speaker 1: that the people thought enough of me to ask for
Speaker 1: me to come back so here I am. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give this a shot and see how it goes. Now,
Speaker 1: just to let you know, guys, he's not gonna be
Speaker 1: here all the time, but we're glad to have him
Speaker 1: when he is. This first segment, we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about keeping the spark alive in a marriage, and we
Speaker 1: know a little bit about that. You have to do
Speaker 1: a disclaimer. We're not professionals, and we don't and we've
Speaker 1: only been buried for five years. It sounds like we've
Speaker 1: been we've got the couple, but we've got the two
Speaker 1: point five twice, so we're good. Yeah, we're good. So
Speaker 1: New York University delivered to those of reality saying, the
Speaker 1: honey phase wears off after thirty months, which is like
Speaker 1: two and a half years, and initially high level of
Speaker 1: marital satisfaction steadily decreased after that period of time for
Speaker 1: most couples, according to this study. So what are you
Speaker 1: feeling about that? I can see how that can happen.
Speaker 1: I think typically people get into marriage for for a
Speaker 1: lot of the wrong reasons. And if you like anything,
Speaker 1: if you go into something for the wrong reason, at
Speaker 1: some point, it's gonna be like oops, exactly, it's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, the newness is gonna wear off, and then
Speaker 1: you're left with who you came into this thing with
Speaker 1: and if you haven't done any what we call work,
Speaker 1: then it's going to be obvious. Well, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, Rodney, because for me, like you were my
Speaker 1: fourth husband, um, and I remember people asking me why
Speaker 1: I even wanted to get married again because we obviously
Speaker 1: are past the age of you know, procreation, so we
Speaker 1: weren't getting married because we wouldn't have kids and build
Speaker 1: a family. That part of our lives was over, and
Speaker 1: people didn't even really understand, well, what is the need
Speaker 1: to get married why? And for me, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I like being married. I enjoy being married. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the partnership and the camaraderie, the companionship that's afforded with marriage.
Speaker 1: And for you, you had never been married before, So
Speaker 1: what was the reason for you most of the reasons
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned, I like that too, and the
Speaker 1: opportunity to build on that beyond just a relationship, but
Speaker 1: a partnership in a marriage was was you know, enticing
Speaker 1: to me? It was interesting to me, and I think
Speaker 1: all of those reasons, but you're still the same person.
Speaker 1: So after a certain amount of time, the newness wears
Speaker 1: off and then all the problems that you had in
Speaker 1: the relationship are the problems you have in the marriage
Speaker 1: unless unless you do some soul searching and some what
Speaker 1: about what's the world? I'm like, well, just do some
Speaker 1: self self evaluation and you know, kind of take responsibility
Speaker 1: for wanting to make things better. But and a lot
Speaker 1: of people do that beforehand, to a lot of people
Speaker 1: will have marriage counseling and and do some work before marriage.
Speaker 1: Because this, this is the thing for me. I think
Speaker 1: people don't realize there's such a like this fairy tale
Speaker 1: idea about what marriage is all about, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's people get all excited about, particularly women, particularly women
Speaker 1: very excited and thrilled about the wedding. And I have
Speaker 1: to tell you, I love weddings. I love weddings, so
Speaker 1: we get real caught up in that. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, even you know, I mean, even
Speaker 1: this being your fourth marriage, you were still pretty excited
Speaker 1: about the wedding. And I was like, just tell me
Speaker 1: where it is and I'll show up. But you were,
Speaker 1: you know, you were, you were very excited about it.
Speaker 1: I love a good wedding. I love and the fact
Speaker 1: that it rained to rental rain on our wedding day.
Speaker 1: I was devastating. I cried all morning. But anyway, but anyway,
Speaker 1: back to your original I forgot what I'm saying now. Well,
Speaker 1: you were saying, people get caught up in the whole
Speaker 1: mystique of but it really is not about the wedding.
Speaker 1: It's about the marriage. So you really have to, you know,
Speaker 1: be sure that that's what you want, and be well,
Speaker 1: I guess you can't, can't, will really be sure, but
Speaker 1: be careful, be thoughtful, be conscious of the decision that
Speaker 1: you're making, because it is supposed to be a lifelong commitment,
Speaker 1: and that's a long time. It's an awfully long time
Speaker 1: for people that are talking about getting married at one
Speaker 1: and like you got your whole life ahead of you early,
Speaker 1: I think it's way too early. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: but how to keep the spark alive? I think for
Speaker 1: for us to like, you know, when you get to
Speaker 1: be our age, it's a big difference. It's a big difference.
Speaker 1: Like we're not swinging from the chandeliers having sex, guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're swinging from table lamps now
Speaker 1: floor lamps. But it's there's it's so much more than
Speaker 1: just sex and That's what people have to recognize, you know,
Speaker 1: because after a while the sex may get a little
Speaker 1: old and you get old. If you stay together, and
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be just your pretty little face and
Speaker 1: you're a pretty little figure and his handsome physique. You
Speaker 1: have to have more than that in a relationship if
Speaker 1: it's really gonna last. How about you have to really
Speaker 1: like the person that you're marrying. It's not just about, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love him so much. Do you like his ass? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's what helps our relationship or
Speaker 1: our marriage works so well, is that we actually like
Speaker 1: each other a lot, like and we enjoy being together.
Speaker 1: You're my best friend, and I used to be yours
Speaker 1: before you added all these other skating people into seven
Speaker 1: people in your life, but used my best friend. You're
Speaker 1: still my best friend, but it would be better if
Speaker 1: you would come stepping with me. But that's what helps
Speaker 1: our relationship work, is that we enjoy doing everything together.
Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't always that way for me.
Speaker 1: When I was younger. I wanted to be with my boys,
Speaker 1: you know, like I would be with you know in
Speaker 1: a relationship, and I go to the movie and go
Speaker 1: to dinner, but I really enjoyed having a lot of
Speaker 1: spending a lot of time with the guys, and as
Speaker 1: I got older, that kind of, you know, it kind
Speaker 1: of changed and and now I don't really need that
Speaker 1: as much. I just needed somebody to share my life
Speaker 1: with and have them share theirs with me. So I
Speaker 1: think that's why our relationship and our marriage works so well,
Speaker 1: because you came into it kind of the same way.
Speaker 1: I think one of the ways to stay connected is
Speaker 1: to have like hobbies that and things that you enjoy together.
Speaker 1: Right now, the major thing that we love, I didn't
Speaker 1: think anybody would love it more than me. I'm a
Speaker 1: movie fan. I always want to go to the movies.
Speaker 1: Rodney enjoys that more than I do. I didn't think
Speaker 1: that that would ever happen. Like, if we're not going
Speaker 1: to the movies every single week, that's a problem. But
Speaker 1: other than that, I feel like it's we don't really
Speaker 1: have like a hobby that we do together, like something
Speaker 1: that we're passionate about, Like I'm very passionate about stepping
Speaker 1: now roller skating, I'm kind of obsessed with that. And
Speaker 1: we did say that we were going to think about
Speaker 1: starting to try to learn golfing, But how important do
Speaker 1: you actually think that is. I agree with you, I
Speaker 1: think it's important. I think we bonded on a lot
Speaker 1: of other areas, so I kinda didn't didn't fall in
Speaker 1: love with stepping. I roller skated when I was younger,
Speaker 1: So that I mean, I'll go, but I'm not as
Speaker 1: pumped up about it or as passionate about it as
Speaker 1: you are. You want to go every twice a week,
Speaker 1: like I can't rollerskape twice a week like I'll go,
Speaker 1: you know, every other Thursday or something. But so you
Speaker 1: just have a lot more energy than me to very
Speaker 1: energetic for my be quite honest, and I hate to
Speaker 1: say this, but you have a lot more energy than me,
Speaker 1: and you always want to be going and doing something,
Speaker 1: and I'm content just kind of chilling in, you know,
Speaker 1: doing standing kind of our routine. And that can be
Speaker 1: a good or a bad thing. Some routines are good,
Speaker 1: and some routines after a while become a routine, and
Speaker 1: it can be detrimental to the to the relationship of
Speaker 1: the marriage. Do you think that there's been any big
Speaker 1: change in you since since you've got married or since
Speaker 1: you've got married. I know, for me, I've had to
Speaker 1: do some changing over time in this marriage, and not
Speaker 1: that I didn't do it in my other marriages, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna focus on this. You know, are married. So
Speaker 1: I definitely felt the need to go back into therapy
Speaker 1: and and try to do some personal work on myself
Speaker 1: because there was definitely an issue with how we communicated. Yes,
Speaker 1: and let me just say guys that Mr Nars had
Speaker 1: to get me all the way together, all the way together.
Speaker 1: You want to talk a little bit about that, or
Speaker 1: is what I've said enough, well you might want to
Speaker 1: expound on that a little bit. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just felt like at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: was not really responding to you in a respectful manner,
Speaker 1: particularly well only when I was angry, right and upset,
Speaker 1: and I can be snappish, and you know cause and
Speaker 1: I don't think I wasn't crazy enough to call you
Speaker 1: out your name, but I was like cussing and just yelling.
Speaker 1: And when I get angry, I get loud. You know, No,
Speaker 1: it's a reason I'm upset. I'm upset. But you know,
Speaker 1: your thing was you have to learn how to be
Speaker 1: able to have a discussion Number one without being so
Speaker 1: emotional about everything and getting angry about everything even if
Speaker 1: you don't disagree. You have to learn how to communicate
Speaker 1: about everything being such a huge, you know, argument, right,
Speaker 1: And you know, I saw for you that that was
Speaker 1: a defense mechanism, that was baggage that you had brought
Speaker 1: into the relationship from previous situations. So it's just a
Speaker 1: matter of identifying it. And I didn't respond in that
Speaker 1: way because I'm not a person who argues. But I'm
Speaker 1: also not a person who's going to allow people to
Speaker 1: treat me in a less than respectful way either, And
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the middle ground that we found, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand that this is how you communicate, but that's
Speaker 1: not acceptable to me, and we have to find a
Speaker 1: better way than this. Yeah, I mean, I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a working progress. It used to happen every single time,
Speaker 1: and then I would walk off, and then later on
Speaker 1: a few hours later, you you would come back and say,
Speaker 1: I mean you always thought about it, and you would
Speaker 1: come back and be like, you know, and we could
Speaker 1: have that conversation that we couldn't have earlier because you
Speaker 1: would take the emotion out of it later on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean, it just works better if you can
Speaker 1: take the emotion out of things. But you always felt
Speaker 1: like anything I said was an attack. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's that's not how I meant it, that's
Speaker 1: not what this is. So let's start from that point.
Speaker 1: And I feel like even though I was doing that,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was pretty good with I never
Speaker 1: had a problem apologizing, you know, because I typically it
Speaker 1: doesn't take me long to like, like you tripping, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It doesn't take me long to
Speaker 1: realize that that's not necessary, you know, or when I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: to admit that I'm wrong. What about you? Which changes
Speaker 1: do you feel like you've you made or you've had
Speaker 1: to make. I think I'm a lot less selfish. Like
Speaker 1: I lived by myself for a very long time, so
Speaker 1: very long, very long time, so I you know, and
Speaker 1: and doing that, I had become pretty selfish. I did
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do when I wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: And that was one of the reasons I lived by
Speaker 1: myself because I enjoyed that freedom to do that. And
Speaker 1: I kind of lived that bachelor life for a long time. So,
Speaker 1: you know, even without realizing it, I had some selfishness
Speaker 1: that I had incorporated in my life and the decisions
Speaker 1: that you would make correct and putting myself first, and
Speaker 1: those decisions sometimes hurt other people. I think the growth
Speaker 1: that I've had in this marriage has forced me, not
Speaker 1: allowed me, but forced me to not be as selfish
Speaker 1: and make decisions based off because everything is us, so
Speaker 1: it's not just me, So I have to every decision
Speaker 1: I'm making, every thought I have is based on us,
Speaker 1: so I'm always coming from that place and my decision making.
Speaker 1: So it changed me in that way. So I'm not
Speaker 1: as selfish because I'm always thinking of everything I do
Speaker 1: is based on us. Okay, So that's that's one of
Speaker 1: the things. And I think, you know, I've become a
Speaker 1: better person, a better father, a better businessman, like everything
Speaker 1: I've you know, because of that unselfishness. I've incorporated that
Speaker 1: into all other areas of my life, and I've I've
Speaker 1: become not only a better husband, but I've become a
Speaker 1: better person as a result of that. Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think the work that I've done on myself too
Speaker 1: is all in trying to make me a better person,
Speaker 1: you know, And we definitely one of the questions that
Speaker 1: we have was do we resolve our disagreements before we
Speaker 1: go to bed, and I would say, yes, we do
Speaker 1: not go to bed angry like we've never done, and
Speaker 1: we don't walk around not speaking to one another like
Speaker 1: we just we just don't don't like that. We're not
Speaker 1: even gonna go a whole day like we It might
Speaker 1: be a couple of hours, but yeah, we don't because
Speaker 1: everybody needs space, you know, everybody needs space to step
Speaker 1: back and kind of figure out what's happening, what's going
Speaker 1: on here. But to just stay angry that does not
Speaker 1: feel good. And you know, I'm not We're not trying
Speaker 1: to paint that picture like we have this perfect marriage,
Speaker 1: but we don't like one of the things that and
Speaker 1: you know, just thinking about it when you were saying that,
Speaker 1: is that the other day we were having an issue
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what it was, but we were
Speaker 1: upset with one another. And then like, and I think
Speaker 1: I was upset with you and and it's something that
Speaker 1: maybe I thought I felt like you did. And then
Speaker 1: maybe like an hour later, I came back and apologize
Speaker 1: to you because I just didn't. And I'm like, why
Speaker 1: am I apologizing? You know she did it, but I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to linger in that energy. But it
Speaker 1: was something that I've done in response to something that
Speaker 1: you did, and I came back and apologized to you.
Speaker 1: He's getting the very like confused face right there, because
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's talking about, not not
Speaker 1: a clue. But I could whatever, I apologize, apologize for
Speaker 1: something that I did. Okay, I know, for something for
Speaker 1: responding in a way to something that you did. But
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff we do, is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we we won't remain mad. We'll typically come back like, look,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, it's been an hour or two.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about whatever that was that we were upset
Speaker 1: about earlier. But I tell you what, I tell you
Speaker 1: one thing that you did the other day. I was
Speaker 1: upset with somebody else. I was upset with another situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I took it out on you. And you picked
Speaker 1: up on that immediately. You recognize that it was displaced anger,
Speaker 1: you know, And that is number one being very in
Speaker 1: tune to your partner and knowing your partner. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't even recognize it because you
Speaker 1: had asked me what was wrong, and I was like nothing, nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know something happened. I snapped
Speaker 1: at you, and that's the situation. I'm talking back. But
Speaker 1: I also came back and was talking about how I
Speaker 1: snapped back, and you know, I didn't linger in it
Speaker 1: with of both he said, that's the beat, so I ain't,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's that kind of thing. It's those
Speaker 1: kind of things that I think, particularly at our age,
Speaker 1: like if we we do, we can't be arguing and
Speaker 1: carrying all. We are not in high school. We got
Speaker 1: no time. There are certain obligations that come with the ring,
Speaker 1: and you know, as a man or a woman, you
Speaker 1: need to, you know, make sure that you're ready to
Speaker 1: take on that responsibility of the obligations because it's not
Speaker 1: just you know, funning games all the time. It's it's
Speaker 1: work involved in And if you're not ready to do that,
Speaker 1: then just stay in the relationship and rite it out
Speaker 1: like that, um, Because if you're a cheetah before you
Speaker 1: get married, you're gonna be a cheetah in the marriage.
Speaker 1: If you're a liar, you're gonna be lying in all
Speaker 1: of that in the marriage. So necessarily, Bay, I so
Speaker 1: disagree with that. I think that if you're willing to
Speaker 1: make the changes you will. But that's my point. You
Speaker 1: need to recognize that this is a responsibility and obligation,
Speaker 1: and you can't you won't be successful bringing those personality
Speaker 1: traits into that. I agree, I agree, but I don't
Speaker 1: agree with if you were a cheater beforehand, because I
Speaker 1: agree to I'm just saying if you were, if you
Speaker 1: don't change those behaviors, then yeah, then you'll you'll bring
Speaker 1: all of that into the marriage and it won't be successful,
Speaker 1: right right, right right. Just being able to sit down
Speaker 1: with with an unbiased person just gives you an opportunity
Speaker 1: to kind of hear yourselves think about, you know, your
Speaker 1: ideas and your own steps of what marriage is really about,
Speaker 1: and to just kind of make sure that you're both
Speaker 1: on the same page, because a lot of times you're
Speaker 1: not talking about you know, you're so caught up and
Speaker 1: being in love, have you really thought about what living
Speaker 1: together and that kind of commitment really means. And you'd
Speaker 1: be surprised how different people think of what marriage is
Speaker 1: and what each of their expectations might be. If I'm
Speaker 1: making sense, like just a different idea of of what
Speaker 1: the responsibilities are and what that commitment means like, how
Speaker 1: many people are actually sitting down and having the conversation
Speaker 1: about monogamy you were just talking about, you know, cheating
Speaker 1: because it's an expectation. There's a marriage. The standard idea
Speaker 1: of marriage is that we're getting married and you and
Speaker 1: I are in a relationship that doesn't include anybody else
Speaker 1: sexually specifically, But you have to have that discussion. You
Speaker 1: have to have that discussion. You can't assume that everybody
Speaker 1: is in agreement with that for just that reason. And
Speaker 1: if it's not something that you both want, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you can't get married. It means that you need
Speaker 1: to agree and figure out what that what those boundaries
Speaker 1: are gonna be in your marriage, because guess who's in
Speaker 1: your marriage. The two of you, not everybody else, but
Speaker 1: the two of you have to agree on what marriage
Speaker 1: means to you and be okay with that right any aspect,
Speaker 1: any aspect of the marriage. When it comes to finances,
Speaker 1: people assume that the husband is going to be the breadwinner.
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily going to be the case. And so
Speaker 1: I just think like in this day and age, it's
Speaker 1: so important for you guys to be able to sit
Speaker 1: down and talk about what your marriage means to you
Speaker 1: based on your own standards, not what everybody else thinks
Speaker 1: a marriage should be. Right, there's no cookie cutter. That
Speaker 1: cookie cutter ship doesn't work anymore. It's done. It doesn't
Speaker 1: work for everybody. Yeah, I think it's a reasonable expectation
Speaker 1: that people not I can expect that they're not going
Speaker 1: to be in a polyamorous relationship marriage and that because
Speaker 1: that's because that's been the way it's been four thousands
Speaker 1: of years. Well, without as without a discussion, I'm assumed
Speaker 1: that that's what I'm getting. Unless the person comes to
Speaker 1: me and says, well, you know what assumed me? This
Speaker 1: is what I want to have, it makes an ass
Speaker 1: that you and me and you'll end up in divorce
Speaker 1: s courts. Have the conversation, have the conversation. And it's
Speaker 1: so difficult for people to talk about sex, babe, even couples.
Speaker 1: It is difficult, it is challenging, it's uncomfortable. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you shouldn't have the conversation. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You gotta be We talked about that, We
Speaker 1: talked about that before we got married. Is this what
Speaker 1: we really want? Do we want to be in a monogamous,
Speaker 1: committed relationship. We talked about that and we decided, yes
Speaker 1: we did. We didn't want to do that, but we
Speaker 1: had the conversation, and I just don't think people are
Speaker 1: doing it, and it's important. It's important. One of the
Speaker 1: biggest reasons people get divorced money and infidelity. One in
Speaker 1: every two marriages ends in divorce. So I know already
Speaker 1: against you to begin with that. That means if there's
Speaker 1: two people in the room, that two couples in the room,
Speaker 1: one of them ain't gonna make it. Maker making that
Speaker 1: almost sounds like when I was in recovery. When I
Speaker 1: left recovery, they were like when I love the treatment,
Speaker 1: stead of like some of you just ain't gonna make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were right at that time. I didn't make it.
Speaker 1: But anyway, moving along this ah another subject, Yes it is.
Speaker 1: We have some questions from some of our listeners. Who
Speaker 1: is your favorite TV married couple. My favorite TV married
Speaker 1: couple is Carrie and Doug hefron In from King of Queen.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Okay, all right, they are hilarious and
Speaker 1: they are just regular people living regular lives, working regular
Speaker 1: jobs and trying to figure it out as they go. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm it's real. So for me, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: a comedy, so of course it's funny, but it's also
Speaker 1: like real situations that there and yeah, okay, well I
Speaker 1: don't really have one, but I guess if I if
Speaker 1: I had to pick, I would probably pick I don't know,
Speaker 1: Phil and and Vive from Fresh Prince maybe or or
Speaker 1: Rainbow and Dre from Blackish. Would you ever go on
Speaker 1: reality TV? And if so, which one? So the only thing?
Speaker 1: I probably Well, I would go on Husbands of Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that, oh yeah, I forgot
Speaker 1: about husbands. Would probably yeah, that's coming back. Actually I
Speaker 1: would do that, and I'm open to creating one if
Speaker 1: anybody has any ideas the Adrian and Rod Show, or
Speaker 1: as you like to call yourself, rock Rock Okay, so
Speaker 1: for me, you can't give yourself a nickname, right, well,
Speaker 1: you do all the time, So for me, it would
Speaker 1: be And at first I was like reality, I don't reality,
Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is it would be
Speaker 1: several Atlanta House World. Yes, because I'm I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: Candy Burst Candy first, I think she is so fantastic
Speaker 1: and so I just think she's a really smart businesswoman.
Speaker 1: That's my obsession with with Candy Burst. What about if
Speaker 1: we went on Black Love. Oh yeah, we like that
Speaker 1: show Black Love. We're here. The other show I would
Speaker 1: do would be I love RuPaul RuPaul's Drag Ways. I
Speaker 1: probably don't know about the enough about the drag game
Speaker 1: to be a judge, but that's what I would be
Speaker 1: saying with Legendary. I love that show. But the show
Speaker 1: that I think that you think that I really need
Speaker 1: to be on is tidying up with Marie Condo because
Speaker 1: I can be a little bit messy. Particularly Marie Condo
Speaker 1: is a an expert in organizing, organizing things. You know.
Speaker 1: I would love for her to come and organize my
Speaker 1: closet and teach me how to keep my desk area
Speaker 1: straight because my desk area is just always a mess,
Speaker 1: like I hold on to two stuff, pieces of paper
Speaker 1: and all of that. So I think that I would
Speaker 1: really benefit from And then I cannot what am I
Speaker 1: thinking about. My top show would be saying yes to
Speaker 1: the dress? What am I doing say yes to the dress?
Speaker 1: I love all things wedding. I need to be a
Speaker 1: consultant for a day Randy, where are you? We don't
Speaker 1: have enough drama in our life to have a reality show.
Speaker 1: Now we probably don't. That's enough, you probably don't. But
Speaker 1: we do have some challenges that we have to deal with,
Speaker 1: like you know, us living on two separate you know,
Speaker 1: cos we're constantly flying back and forth. That's how we
Speaker 1: live our lives. That's been quite a challenge. But that's
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