1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: en Buck Sexton Show. Arman Clay on a much deserved 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: vacation and college tour with his oldest boy, so he'll 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: be back with us on Monday. He's taken the week 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: to do the family stuff and enjoy himself. We hoped him. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Laura and the kids are having a great time. We 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of news to dive into today, and 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: things are heating up. I think you could say that 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: the initial honeymoon period with the media, not that they 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: wanted to give us one, but they were so shocked 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: that they couldn't even figure out a way to oppose 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Trump effectively in public, that is starting to fade as 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: they scream recession, recession, and authoritarianism. So we shall discuss 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: where all this is coming from. We got Congress right 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: now wrangling over the Continuing Resolution. There's government shutdown talk, 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: oh boy, up on Capitol Hill. We will discuss this. 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Trump announcing new tariffs on Canada. So he's going to 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: impose fifty percent tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum. We'll 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: discuss this. This is a retaliatory tariff. There's a lot 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: of back and forth over the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: an anti American pro Hamas pro Palestinian activist on a 22 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: student visa. I think that's a discussion we should get 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: into in a little bit. You've also got the aftermath 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: of Dylan mulvany on The View. It turns out the 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: ladies of the View are as disconnected from reality and 26 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: cognitively limited as we had always assumed here on the show, 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: or we had always discussed, And we shall get into 28 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: all of that and more. Also, take a bunch of 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: your calls eight hundred two two two eight eight, thank you. 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, my friends, it is important 31 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: to note that this was all what we should have 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: expected when you try to change the system, when you 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: take it upon yourself to challenge the way things are 34 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: done in the biggest, most expensive government in the history 35 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: of the world, which I think is fair to say, 36 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: no one else is spending the trillions that we have spent, 37 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: or we have gotten used to spending. No one else 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: has ever gotten thirty six trillion US dollars or the equivalent. 39 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we could go back to ancient 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: Rome or something, but nobody else has run this up 41 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: the way that we have in the modern era. We've 42 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: got some real problems to fix. Right. The initial flurry 43 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: of executive orders from Trump was fantastic. It was it 44 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: was time for us all to high five, do backflips. 45 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: And like I said, if you remember you were listening 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: to us at the time, I said, enjoy this. Go 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: out this weekend, crack a beer or a chardonnay, or 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is you like to you know, in my case, 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: some stevious sweetened water. Go go enjoy yourself and enjoy 50 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: the victory that Trump had over all the forces trying 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: to stop him. Enjoy the victory the Republicans had. Because 52 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: things are gonna get messy, and we're entering the messy phase. Now. 53 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: It's not going to be what they're telling you it is, 54 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: which is that somehow this is all going to fall 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: apart and the economy is so bad and it's all 56 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Trump's fault. That is to be expected from an anti 57 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Trump media that has lied to you about absolutely everything. 58 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I've seen that, even with the the Heritage Foundation, I 59 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: think it's the accountability project they have. They've looked at 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: the signatures, the auto pen signatures of Biden on a 61 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: bunch of his well, a bunch of things that he 62 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: officially signed, and some of them don't match up. And 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: this under a normal president, Under a cognitively functioning president, 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: you might say, well, you know, people use autopens. Did 65 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Biden even know all the things he was signing? And 66 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: if he didn't know all the things he was signing, 67 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: it's not really law, is it if some advisor just 68 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: effectively forged his signature. Right? It's one thing for a 69 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: president to have an autopen signature. Go, yes, my hand 70 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: is tired. Auto that has happened before. We know this. Oh, 71 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm not discounting that reality. But if a president isn't 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: even aware of what is being signed in his name, 73 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: is is that a thing that we don't pay attention to? 74 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Does that not have consequences? I think it clearly should. 75 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: But I bring it up because we have entered a 76 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: new era now where we have a president who is 77 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: very much engaged and advisors who are on a mission. 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: This is not the business as usual presidency. This is 79 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: not even the Trump as we got to know him presidency, 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: as in Trump one point oh. This is clearly Trump 81 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: two point oh. This is something elevated and beyond the 82 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: first go round. There was a lot of on the 83 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: job learning. There were personnel decisions and mistakes. Let's just 84 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: be honest about this. Trump is honest about it. He 85 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: fired a bunch of people. He has had people turn 86 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: against him who owe their careers to him, now in 87 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: the media, but then in government. So there was a 88 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: learning curve, and there was there was, i think from 89 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: the Trump team also the surprise of having to deal 90 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: with not just the media going all out against him, 91 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: but we remember the Russia collusion hoax and the media, Democrat, 92 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: intelligence community complex, the apparatus all going at Trump with 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: everything that they had, and it slowed things down. This 94 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: time around, they have thrown everything at him, and they 95 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: have been shown incapable of stopping him from getting to 96 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: his second term. A magnificent thing, an incredible comeback. That's 97 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: what I told you. Enjoy it. Don't just look at 98 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: the fight ahead. You know, when you win the big 99 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: game before you go to the state championship, you still 100 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: go out and celebrate. The election victory was huge. Now 101 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: we get to fixing the country. And fixing the country 102 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: isn't going to be something that just happens overnight or 103 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: even in the first quarter or two of Trump's urn. 104 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Remember he hasn't even been an office two months, and 105 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: they're saying, oh, look at the price of eggs, look 106 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: at the stock marker, look at noise. This is noise. 107 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: And there's also an important perception management that has to 108 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: go on here where if you're going to contract government 109 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and if we have become for GDP purposes reliant on 110 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: government's expansion, as in too much spending the government just creates, 111 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: creates the perception of additional value. It's just numbers on 112 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: a screen, or it's paying bureaucrats who do nothing. I 113 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: mentioned you yesterday twenty five percent of new jobs under 114 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Biden government jobs. The government is putting out twenty five 115 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: percent of the new jobs that are being created over 116 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the course of an entire twenty twenty three I think, 117 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four is close to it, if not 118 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: the same, that's not making any of us better off. 119 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: That is just expanding the scope and price tag of 120 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: the government itself. To deal with that though, it's a 121 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: little bit like going on a diet something I know about, 122 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: because you're going to be hungry, and if we have 123 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: to be hungry here when it comes to government spending 124 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. This is the thing it's all about. 125 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: It's all about proportion, it's all about balance. Trump is 126 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: trying to restore balance, Elon Doze, They're trying to restore 127 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: sanity in the way that the government spends, in the 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: way that the government takes your money in your name 129 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and puts it to use, in many cases, very bad use, 130 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: in some cases, just effectively lighting money on fire. To 131 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: stop that process from happening, there's going to be fierce opposition, 132 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: which we have already seen, right, especially when you start 133 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: to touch these NGOs. I think it was Elon who said, 134 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: and it's so right. How is it a non government 135 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: organization if the government is entirely responsible for funding it, 136 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: that's just a cutout. That's what we would call it 137 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: intelligence circles, right, that's a carve out, it's a proxy. 138 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: So something was very wrong with that whole situation, and 139 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: now many of us are far more aware of it 140 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: than we ever we ever had been in the past. 141 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: So that's an important win. And now we're looking at 142 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of stopping the spending juggernaut from just rampaging 143 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: forward toward forty trillion dollars of debt. It's not going 144 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: to be easy, and it is not going to be 145 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: without a little bit of rumbling along the way. There's 146 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: there's going to be some moments where things are going 147 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: to look a little bit tougher than they might have 148 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: been if we just continued spending. But we can't continue 149 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: the spending. And this is why Trump has come out 150 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: and said that he wants to put the country on 151 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: a firmer economic footing. He wants to do what he 152 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: can so that This isn't just about what the stock 153 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,479 Speaker 1: market looks like now, it's how far is your paycheck 154 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: going in a year, in two years, in five years. 155 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: This is about turning around a massive part of the 156 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: economic engine here so that it is and really redoing 157 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: parts of it so that it can function more efficiently 158 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: for everyone. Because we've seen what the inflation has done 159 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: to your ability to pay your rent. We've seen if 160 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: you are asset light in this economy, meaning if you 161 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: don't own a lot of stuff that is productive, stocks, 162 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: real estate, things like that, if you don't know, then 163 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: that all gets infla along with the inflation. And so 164 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: what it does is it squeezes those who are working 165 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: for paychecks for a living, which is the vast majority 166 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: of the American people. Those who are doing work and 167 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: trying to get ahead and just trying to pay their 168 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: bills and do it the right way, they have a 169 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: tougher time, and it is effectively attacks on them to 170 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: continue to spend at the levels we have currently seen. 171 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: This has to be addressed, This has to be changed. 172 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: And this is also why you will see Democrats are 173 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: You'll notice there's no spending that they really want to cut. 174 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: They like the control that this gives them. There's a 175 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of social engineering that is possible when you're 176 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: spending so much money that nobody even knows what you're 177 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: spending it on or who's getting it. It is such 178 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: a shield. It is such a shroud for corruption because 179 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: if you don't if no one really knows where the 180 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: money's going. The numbers are so big and there's so 181 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: many things, how can you ever get a handle on this. 182 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: This is where Trump and Elon and Doge come in 183 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: and the fight over the government shutdown. I have a 184 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: tough time getting all that energized about this. One way 185 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: or the other. We've been through this before. It's a 186 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: lot of brinksmanship and blame game stuff, and eventually the 187 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: government will be funded if they allow it to be 188 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: defunded temporarily or the funding to run short. I believe 189 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Trump then is in a position to just decide what 190 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: is considered essential and what keeps running. So there's that. 191 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: But here is Speaker Johnson who is trying to wrangle 192 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: all of this, and he's saying that it's Democrats who 193 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: are taking this to the point where there could be 194 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: a shutdown. Play one. 195 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: They're planning to vote down the simple Bill. They are 196 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: going to try to shut the government down. Every House 197 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: Democrat will participate on this. It looks like that would 198 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: be a shame if it's true. I hope some of 199 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do 200 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: the right thing. But it looks like they're going to 201 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: try to shut down the government. It's a striking new 202 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: posture for Democrats who have always said they spend apoplectic 203 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: about the prospect of government shutdowns. Democrats have been insisting 204 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: they're fighting for federal workers. You're about to see again 205 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: on vivid display very clear the contrast. You will see 206 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: one team that is working to fund the government and 207 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: make sure we do the responsible thing. And you're going 208 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: to see another posing as r because they've now exposed 209 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: the truth. They're not for federal workers, they're not for anyone. 210 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: All the people they've said in the past that are 211 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: going to be harmed would be by their votes. 212 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: This is one of the challenges of opposing Democrats is 213 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: that they stand for whatever they need to stand for 214 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: in the moment. They change their mind on everything. They 215 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: change their principles as if they have any They change 216 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: what they believe in. It doesn't It's about power, and 217 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the government and how it spends money, 218 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: there might be no more clear abuse of power that 219 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: Democrats can engage in then what we see, which is 220 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: spending us all into oblivion. Tackling this is a critical issue. 221 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: I've said it from the very beginning. Are borders and 222 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: the government cutting it down to side, cutting the spending down, 223 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: cutting the bureaucray down the two most important missions of 224 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. We've seen excellent work at the border 225 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: so far. Thank you Tom Homan and team, and credit 226 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: to DHS Secretary Nome. Credit to the people that are 227 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: doing what is necessary to secure our border. So that 228 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: it's ninety five percent down for illegal crossings. Interior enforcement 229 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: is the harder problem. I will always be honest with you. 230 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: That is even more challenging, and that will require more 231 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: political will and more infrastructure. It's millions, it's tens of 232 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: millions of people that you're talking about who are at 233 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: least possible deportees. And then you have tackling the government beast. 234 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: You see, the Democrats had created a system where they 235 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: win no matter what, even when they lose elections, they 236 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: win because the spending is automatic, because the bureaucracy is huge, 237 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: because there's no accountability in DC, and it's just one 238 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: free for all with your money, you go to work, 239 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: you spend your life and your time trying to be 240 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: productive and provide for your family. And the shenanigans in 241 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: DC means that you're a hamster on a treadmill that 242 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: keeps going faster and faster and faster, and how are 243 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: you supposed to keep up? That's not good. And Trump 244 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: recognizes that his team sees what's going on and they 245 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: are taking steps to make this better. It's not going 246 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: to be perfect, it's not going to be quick, and 247 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to be that easy. There's going to 248 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: be a little bit of disruption. The markets may be 249 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: in some tumult here for a few months. Of course, 250 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: of course, when you're correcting a problem, there tends to 251 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: be right in. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. 252 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: When you stop overspending, it's going to feel like things 253 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: are a little lean sometimes, but for a vast majority 254 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: of people. I truly believe it's vast degory of Americans. 255 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: This is clearly the way it has to be done, 256 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: and it has to be done now. By the midterms, 257 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: we're back to business as usual. By the midterms 're 258 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: just arguing over how to move the deck chairs on 259 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: our fiscal titanic. It's not good. 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Or go online to LifeLock dot com and 278 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: use promo code Buck for forty percent off, saving America 279 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: one thought at a time. 280 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Buck sext to find them on the 281 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 282 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's talk tariffs for 283 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: a moment. For a moment. All right, strap in, it's 284 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna get wild. We're gonna talk a little tariff econ 285 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: one oh one history. Maybe we'll dive into the Smoot 286 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Hawley tariffs back in what the thirties, this is This 287 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: is a moment where I think it's important to look 288 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: at the basics because things are getting a little bit 289 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: feisty on the tariff front. And let me just give 290 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: you the news on this, and then we'll do a 291 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a deep dive into the analysis. Donald 292 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Trump from Truth Social I'm quoting now based on Ontario, 293 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Canada placing a twenty five percent tariff on electricity coming 294 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: into the United States. I've instructed my Secretary of Commerce 295 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: to add an additional twenty five percent tariff to fifty 296 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: percent tariff on all steel and aluminum coming into the 297 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: United States from Canada, one of the highest tariffing nations 298 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. Okay, So he says, this will 299 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: go into effect tomorrow morning, March twelve. He says Canada 300 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: must drop their anti American farmer tariff of two hundred 301 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: and fifty percent on various US dairy products. I'll declare 302 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: a national emergency in electricity within the threatened area. This 303 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: will allow the US to do what needs to be 304 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada. Okay, couple 305 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: thanks here. First of all, as we've already established, because 306 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: this is so important I understand the economic consensus, such 307 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: as it exists among among economists is that tariffs are 308 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: almost like it's like a sales tax or it's just 309 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: it's a tax that consumers pay and it lessens aggregate demand, 310 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: and so they just say that's bad. They just view 311 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: tariffs bad. They want total free trade. That's the least theoretically. 312 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: The problem with this, and this is why I gave 313 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: economists a little rough stuff yesterday. The problem with this 314 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: is that there are a lot of tariffs and a 315 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: lot of protectionist policies in place all over the world already, 316 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: including with our neighbors Mexico and Canada. So we're not 317 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: starting from a place of everything is level. Why are 318 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: you making it not level with your tariff. This is 319 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: where we get to reciprocal tariff, right in the word reciprocal. 320 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: They're doing this to us, and so we do something 321 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: in response. If if my neighbor Clay hates leaf blowers, 322 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: and by the way, he has spot on leaf blowers 323 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: drive me insane too. If my neighbor is using a 324 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: leaf blower super loudly and they won't stop at you know, 325 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: seven o'clock at night, eight o'clock at night, because as 326 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: we know, this is leaf blower should be a nine 327 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: to five thing. You shouldn't wake anybody up, You shouldn't 328 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: keep anybody from going to sleep anyway. Some of you 329 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: are going to take issue with that, but you're wrong. 330 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: If I then start playing loud music, if I start 331 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: blasting Beethoven over the fence so that they get the hint, 332 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm not the noise polluter. I'm engaged in a reciprocal 333 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: act of noisemaking so that they will stop. Although maybe 334 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: they'll just love the Beethoven. This is a total digrette, 335 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: you know what. I'll come to this later. I actually 336 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: experience something in Nashville when it comes to classical music 337 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: I thought was fascinating. But I'll tell you about that 338 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: in a moment. I don't want to I don't I 339 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: don't want to weave too much. I don't want to 340 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: weave too much Trump weaves. I weave without clay. Here 341 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: my weave can sometimes spin off into So I'm going 342 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: to get back on the tariffs, reciprocal tariffs, meaning they 343 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: are doing this to us. Why would a country, why 344 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: would Canada have a two hundred and fifty percent tariff 345 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: on our dairy going across the border unless there were 346 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: some benefit to them. Of course, there is some benefit 347 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: to your domestic producers and domestic industry. And so that's 348 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: why other countries do this to us, right, I mean, 349 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: we're just we're just looking at this logically. Put aside, 350 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, whether somebody is Paul Krugman is an economist 351 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: who got a Nobel prize, the guys a moron. So 352 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like we have to just sit 353 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: there and say, oh, whatever you say. Economists. Now you 354 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: look at individual tariffs on individual on an individual basis, 355 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and you realize they are a tool. It is a tool, 356 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: just like for example, sanctions saying now that's a more 357 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: that's more aggressive. But you know, sanctions are a tool, 358 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: sometimes good, sometimes bad, sometimes good sometimes bat it depends. 359 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: It is case dependent. And this is what gets lost 360 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: in so much of the discussion about this because people 361 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: just say they have this this automatic wave of the hand, 362 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: will all the economists say, And I'm like, you know, 363 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: what do all the economists really know? You know, you 364 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: got to ask that question what they what have they 365 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: gotten right about the economy recently? Not a whole lot. Now, 366 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: there are obviously exceptions to this. We have some great economists, 367 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: and we've had Art Laugher on the show and Steve 368 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: Borr on the show, and they're brilliant guys out there. 369 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, the it's like the same thing with 370 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: the foreign policy consensus. If you listen to the DC 371 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: based foreign policy consensus, there's not a war we shouldn't fight, 372 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: there's not an invasion we shouldn't do. You know, America 373 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: is the global police and they've been very wrong and 374 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: we've paid a heavy price for this. With the so 375 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: called economic consensus, we have been on the receiving end 376 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: of tariffs and what you could say our trade war 377 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: acts for a long time, and we don't do anything 378 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: in response. This is where Trump was right on the 379 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: issue of China in his first term, and the DC 380 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: consensus was so remember I say DC consensus because a 381 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans. It's not just Democrats opposed Trump period. Democrats. 382 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: You know, Trump says, hey, it's a nice day, and 383 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: they're like, it's a terrible day. Seventy five degrees and 384 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: breezy is terrible. They don't care. But there are Republicans 385 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: that go along with this as well. There are Republicans 386 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: that decide, Oh, I disagree with Trump on this issue, 387 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: and they were proven wrong in the first term on 388 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: China in my opinion, and I think in everyone's opinion, 389 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: because even Biden kept a lot of the Trump China 390 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: policies in place on trade. We want to get them 391 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: to stop doing what they're doing. So we are then 392 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: creating the threat of tariffs, creates and even a more 393 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: even playing ground for our producers and our consumers. Why 394 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: should we have less access to their market than they 395 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: have to ours. Ah And this is again where it's 396 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: a tool. Now we have the premiere of Ontario, Doug 397 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Ford here talking tough about terrif fights with Trump play 398 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: this one. 399 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: Let me be clear. I will not hesitate to increase 400 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: this charge if necessary if the United States escalates, I 401 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: will not hesitate to shut the electricity off completely. Believe 402 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 4: me when I say I do not want to do this. 403 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: I feel terrible for the American people because it's not 404 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: the American people who started this trade war. It's one 405 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: person who's responsible. That's President Trump. I'd rather be working together. 406 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: I want to sell the US more energy, g G, 407 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: more electricity, more critical minerals. I want to make Canada 408 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 4: in the United States the richest, most successful, safest. 409 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it anyway, The point is he's throwing down 410 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: with Trump. 411 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 5: Now. 412 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: They're saying they're going to make our electricity cost more, 413 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: specifically to Minnesota, Michigan, and New York which get electrics 414 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: across across the border from from Canada. So they're gonna 415 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: drive up energy prices on us. Trump is saying, don't worry, 416 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna handle this. Here's the way to handle it. 417 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: We want also things that aren't necessarily purely economic as well, 418 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: which is where more so with Mexico, but also with Canada. 419 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: We want border cooperation. So see people say again tariffs 420 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: are a tool. Okay, will something be Will something be 421 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: more expensive as a result of tariff, particularly over a 422 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: relatively short period of time, Yes, But are there more 423 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: important things than the cost of goods in that one 424 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: sector for that period of time. This is a decision 425 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: to be made, right, What is more important that we 426 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: keep I don't know the cost of textiles brought in 427 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: from Mexico. I think those are even brought in mostly 428 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: from Southeast Asia now, But whatever were the cost of avocados, 429 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: That's what we always Oh my gosh, if we do 430 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: anything with Mexico and trade, you're your avocado toast is 431 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: going to be And that's always a cheap shot. They 432 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: take at US Millennial and gen Z with the avocado 433 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: toast is delicious, but they say, your avocado is going 434 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: to be so expensive? All right, If a fifty percent 435 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: increase in the cost of avocados is something that we're 436 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: willing to bear in order to get a fifty percent 437 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: reduction in I don't know sentinel seizures at the border. 438 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: Is that worth it? Again, it is a tool. It's 439 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: something that Trump is using. Did Trump blow up the economy? 440 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: And this is the other part of this I get 441 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: too as well. Did Trump blow up the economy in 442 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: the first administration when he was doing these different maneuvers 443 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: on trade, when he negotiated the US Canada Mexico agreement. 444 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: What is the record of Trump on the economy? Phenomenally strong? Right? 445 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: Who knows more than Trump, who has been in a 446 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: position of leadership, who's been a president in recent memory? 447 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: No one, No one is better on the economy than Trump. 448 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: I would say, as president in my lifetime, better than Bush, 449 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: better than Obama, better, obviously better than Biden. I mean, 450 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: you can go back to Reagan, but there are some 451 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: things that would I would quibble with when it comes 452 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: to some of well, really on immigration with Reagan, that's 453 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: where we have a departure, more so than on the economy. Nonetheless, 454 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: I think that Trump has earned the leeway to pursue 455 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: these paths without people freaking out, at least on our side. 456 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: The Democrats are going to freak out no matter what, 457 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: but on our side of things, it's going to be 458 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit of time, and 459 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: there's going to be a little bit of disruption, because 460 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: to be a disruptor to the system requires some disruption. 461 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: This is very straightforward. You're not going to fix this 462 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: stuff without there being a little bit of whoa okay, 463 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: And there's going to be kicking and screaming from bureaucrats 464 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: and the deep state and the Democrats and the anti 465 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Trump media that's looking for anything to say that is 466 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: noive for Trump. So when we talk about tariffs, I 467 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: just think it's important to put it in the context 468 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: of one, it's a negotiating tool. Some of these tariffs 469 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: won't even go into effect. Two, the reciprocal tariffs they 470 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: are in response to, in a lot of cases, tariffs 471 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: that already exist with other countries. So we're saying, hey, 472 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: knock that off, and we'll knock this off. What's wrong 473 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: with that? I don't understand. Why why should we say 474 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: that other countries could punish our access to their markets 475 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: and punish our producers, but we can't do the same. 476 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: And then three, sometimes there are things that are more 477 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: important than an increase in the cost in a certain 478 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: industry at a certain time. This is really where I 479 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: get into the agreement on Mexico with Mexico on border issues, 480 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: that's a critical US national security and sovereignty interest. It's 481 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: not just about the price of avocados. So with that 482 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: in mind, I understand we don't want things to get crazy. 483 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: We don't want prices to skyrocket. The trumpet is sensitive 484 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: to it. But just remember the same people who are 485 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: criticizing this with the most fervor in the media and 486 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: in a commentariat, we're the ones who were telling you 487 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden with sharp as attack. Why would you 488 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: believe them now? Why do they have credibility now on 489 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: this issue? So we give it some time, We let 490 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: this play out, We let Trump do what he does. Okay, 491 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: he's got Elon Musk. You got people running around Democrats, 492 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is dumb. Anybody who tells you Elon Musk 493 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: is dumb shouldn't be listened to on anything. And I 494 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: don't know how they can even tie their own shoes. 495 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be listened to on a single issue period, 496 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: full stop. All right, We've got very smart people. I 497 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: do not have concerns, especially on the economic and budget 498 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: cutting side of this administration. You have an all star 499 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: team that has been assembled. Look at the people who 500 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: are criticizing it. They when I said, look it's okay 501 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: to say I disagree with this tariff for that tariff, 502 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean the ones we're saying, we're session 503 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be terrible. They're trying to induce fear in 504 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: people to turn them against what Trump is trying to do. 505 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: This is the moment where we have to sort of 506 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: steal our spines and say, all right, let's go. We 507 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: wanted this ride, we said, we said Trump, I'm tall 508 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: enough for the roller coaster. Let's get on the roller coaster. 509 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, it's gonna be great. But there 510 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be sometimes where it's a little whoa. We're 511 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: going pretty fast. I'm just saying now, look, a lot 512 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: of people have go bags in the event of an emergency. 513 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: What about having a stay bag to protect your home 514 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: if the threat is at your doorstep. Our sponsor, Saber, 515 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: manufactures a whole array of self and home defense tools 516 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: that you want to have in your home arsenal. 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That's eight four 545 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: four eight two four safe. Patriots Radio hosts a couple of. 546 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: Regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on 547 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 548 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: A couple of things for the Ombudsman here, which I 549 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: guess I have to play the Armbudsman for myself. Uh 550 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: for today uh, my wife pointed out as she was 551 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: listening on the way back in from being out, and 552 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: about that, I said, the three year I meant the 553 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: five year anniversary of the COVID lockdowns went into effect now, 554 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: and I want so much time on it because there's 555 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about now. And that was five 556 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: years ago. But it was insane, and I am very 557 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: proud that I opposed the lockdowns by the first week 558 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: of I mean openly opposed the whole thing. As soon 559 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: as two weeks to slow over was it ten days 560 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: or two weeks? It is two weeks to slow the spread. 561 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm even forgetting now ten days to slow the spread, 562 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: whatever it was. As soon as that was over, I 563 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let's go back to life. We gave 564 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: we gave the we gave the hospital capacity, we gave 565 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: them time to get ready and catch up, and then 566 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: they said no. And then we realized it was a 567 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: bait and switch. And then we realized that we were 568 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: getting a little trial run of authoritarianism, and it was 569 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: the health bureaucracy. It's like it had taken over the government, 570 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: and certainly at the state level, we saw just madness. 571 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: And I'm very very thankful to Donald Trump for allowing 572 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: the State of Florida. Remember he did not come down 573 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: hard and everyone wanted to oh the federal government. He 574 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: allowed the State of Florida to be a laboratory of 575 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: freedom during COVID and Governor DeSantis for being the best noun. 576 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: Nobody was perfect. Everybody had a little period of a 577 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: few weeks or so or a couple of months where 578 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: they were allowing restrictions in their states. But some people 579 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: figured out what was going on pretty quickly. In others, 580 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: like the Democrats, just kept getting crazier and crazier for years, 581 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: crazier and crazier so that I just wanted to know it. Yes, 582 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: it's five years, not three years, and it is amazing. 583 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Now I really think of my life in my mind, 584 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure I'm not the only one. There are 585 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: two events, historical events that are my my sort of 586 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: before and after for periods. Right, It's like when did 587 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: the when did the medieval period turn into the Renaissance 588 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: turn into you know those time markers and it's nine 589 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: to eleven and COVID lockdowns. Those are just two things 590 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: in my mind that there's there was, there was the 591 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: before and after world that I lived in and the 592 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: before and after world that I lived in with COVID. 593 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: So those are two two things. The other bombs budsman 594 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: note that I would point out is, yes, I know 595 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: that I need a haircut. For those of you who 596 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: are watching on the video stream, no, I do not 597 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: use a weed whacker, and I think that's very mean. 598 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: So yes, I'm getting a haircut, probably probably even tomorrow. 599 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: I'll go see a couple of my I got a 600 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: couple of Cuban American friends here who do a great job, 601 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: nice and quick. They don't they don't want to like 602 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: get chatty with me. They just do a great job 603 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: cutting their hair. And they bring me the Cuban coffee 604 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: in a little just a little tiny bit of it. 605 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: That stuff is good, almost crocket level good. I'm telling 606 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: you all right. So yes, it is not in fact 607 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: a you know, I do not have a wooly mammoth 608 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: on my head. All these things that people say I'm true, 609 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: I'm true, fake news. No wooly mammoth on Buck's head. 610 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: So elon, musk, elon musk. Here is, first of all, 611 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to note, because I brought it up yesterday, 612 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: that eck was down for a bit, and that's troubling 613 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: because X is now the first line social media platform 614 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: for free speech. I know about truth and Rumbull, I'm 615 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: on those platforms too, but X has broader reach. That's 616 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: why I was acquired forty forty four billion dollars or 617 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And Elon said something that I just 618 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: have to know that this is very interesting and I'm 619 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: not a technical Well, yeah, clearly, I'm not a technological expert, 620 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: so I can't speak to how verified or verifiable this is. 621 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: But this has cut five. He said that the massive 622 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: attacks attack on X which shut it down various times 623 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: throughout the day, came from and he want to guess 624 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: play five. 625 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 6: There was a cyber attack on X today which shut. 626 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: It down and may have been foreign sourced. 627 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: It's a big story. You want to give us a 628 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: moment on that. 629 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 6: Well, we're not sure exactly what happened, but there was 630 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 6: a massive cyber attack to try to bring down the 631 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 6: X system with IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area. 632 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: IP addresses in Ukraine. Now, maybe they were spoofed, mirrored. 633 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: I know there's ways to fit, but I think Elon's 634 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: a pretty sophisticated player when it comes to the Internet 635 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: and technology. So if anyone's going to be able to 636 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: get his team to figure out what really happened here, 637 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: I think he's very high on the list. I don't 638 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: know who would be much better at this. So if 639 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: he maybe he'll come out and say, oh, they mirrored 640 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: it and it was actually from somewhere else. I don't know. 641 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: He said it's not He even said it's not definitive 642 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: or all that clear, but it is interesting that that 643 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: might have happened. I'm just going to know that that 644 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: is a situation that we should pay some attention to. 645 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: Somebody in Ukraine would be taking it upon themselves. It 646 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: was sophisticated too. This is not something that I think 647 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: would be easy for some individual to just pull off. 648 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: What's what's wrong with people being able to share information 649 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: freely about the Ukraine and what's going on over there? 650 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: Why would anyone want to stop that? I think that 651 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: is very interesting. You had Senator Mark Kelly who wanted 652 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: to be I think Vice President Mark Kelly, but probably 653 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: made a smart decision not tying himself to the Kamala ticket. 654 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: To be fair, this is cut nine. He elon Musk 655 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: called him said that it's Mark Kelly went to Ukraine 656 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: on his own to do one of these Ukraine tours. 657 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: Elon didn't like it. I think he said that that's 658 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: a betrayal, or he's he's betrayed his country. He's a 659 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: trader for doing this. And here's what Mark Kelly said 660 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: about Elon in response, play nine thou. 661 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 7: Me obmuously he's not a serious twelve year old, so 662 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 7: I don't think. And I served as our country in 663 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 7: the maybe twenty five years. When I was twenty two 664 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 7: years old, I swore an oath to defend the Constitution. 665 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: I've lived that oath. 666 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 7: My entire life. I'm I'm not sure if Elon has 667 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 7: sworn an oath to anything. 668 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: I was a guest. 669 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 7: It's probably just billionaires like himself. 670 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: Wow, really we're gonna we're gonna do that? Huh. If 671 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: you start off saying you don't take Elon Musk seriously, 672 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be taken seriously. What what could be a 673 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: dumber thing to say than the richest guy in the 674 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: world who's creating more. I thought Elon was amazing. I 675 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: read Elon's biography biography before he was red pilled on 676 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: the Trump trainer. The guy's just done incredible stuff, incredible 677 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: stuff that's changing the future and and providing a lot 678 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: of value to humanity in the process. He's he's not 679 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: He's not a serious person. If el Musk is not 680 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: a serious person, who is who is? You know, you 681 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: have to have to wonder about this assessment of him. 682 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: The work that Doze is doing is certainly serious and important. 683 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: And here he is Elon speaking about that. This is 684 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: cut seven. He just wants everybody to know how essential 685 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: Doze is. So essential to him. Here's a guy. Let 686 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: me just take a step back before we play that cut. 687 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: Elon is as part of his mission, specifically with SpaceX, 688 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: he wants us to get to Mars because he wants 689 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: humanity to be interplanetary in case something terrible happens here, 690 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: asteroid hit, nuclear war, whatever. Right. I think he actually 691 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: is a little worried about climate change. I hope he's 692 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: moderated that because I'm not saying Elon's right about everything, 693 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 1: but he wants us to be interplanetary, so he thinks 694 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: the survival of the human species over the long run 695 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: requires us to be a multiplanetary I'm sorry I said 696 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: inter multiplanetary planetary species. Now he is willing for free 697 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: to take time away from that mission to help Donald 698 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Trump to try to fix the government in this country. 699 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: I think that goes to how important he thinks it is. 700 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: I also think anybody who tells you that Elon's only 701 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: in this for his billionaire friends is a moron. That's 702 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: just that's absurd. He's the richest guy in the money. 703 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: He's got more money than any other human being alive 704 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: in the world. There's seven billion people in the world. 705 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: He's the richest one, and you think that this is 706 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: all a game because he wants more money. I mean, 707 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 1: once you're worth a billion dollars, like, how much money 708 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: does how much value? Does money even have additional money? 709 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: It's a very steep decline. You know, your first one 710 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in the bank, I've been there building 711 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 1: it up. Makes a big difference that first one hundred grand, 712 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: first ten grand. If you don't have it, man, you 713 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: get that I got. I got a you know, a 714 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: couple of months or six months or whatever it is 715 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: of security in the bank. If I were to lose 716 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: my job, that really helps. Right when you're worth three 717 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars. Being worth three hundred and fifty billion 718 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: dollars doesn't get you out of bed in the morning. Okay, 719 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: nobody cares. So these attacks about that are absurd. And anyway, 720 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: here's what he says about Doge And how important is 721 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: this this cut seven plays? What motivates you to do this? 722 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: Well? 723 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: Supposed the opera good. It's tough setting. 724 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough sletting, but I think we're doing the 725 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 6: right thing here. There have been many orders that are 726 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 6: pointed out that there's trans amount of waste import in 727 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 6: the government. In fact, there was a report issued by 728 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 6: the gapao A, the govern Accountability Office last year so 729 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 6: during the Biden administration, which estimated the federal comment frauds the. 730 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 1: Half a trillion dollars. 731 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 6: So, just because that's not a Trump administration, think it's 732 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 6: a Biden administration thing. So what we're trying to do 733 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 6: is get that number down to a much smaller figure. 734 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: Half a trillion dollars of fraud a Biden administration figure 735 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: based on government audits and estimates of five hundred billion dollars. 736 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: Why would any person not want him to end that? Well, 737 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: now you get into the ugly truth about the Democrat Party, 738 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: which is that a lot of stuff that does not 739 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: have support on its own is funded by the government. 740 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: A lot of ideologically toxic left wing stuff relies on 741 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: government funding, a lot of uniparty activity, and we're in 742 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: charge even when we lose elections, relies on the massive 743 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: federal bureaucracy, relies on the bureaucracy's ability to give a 744 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: lot of money to people that nobody even knows about. 745 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: We need this transparency and everyone should want it, and 746 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: that Democrat don't, and that they hate Elon. You got 747 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: lunatic Democrats who are lighting Tesla's on fire now as 748 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: some kind of anti Elon protest. You're not going to 749 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: bank bankrupt Elon by throwing a maltof cocktail in a 750 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: cyber truck in Oregon or whatever. You're just being an idiot, right, 751 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: which is not a surprise. But why do they hate 752 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: him so much? Because he's a threat to the ideological 753 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: system of the left. Because the ideological system of the left, 754 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: the apparatus as I have called it for a long time, 755 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: needs the fraud and needs to avoid and evade accountability 756 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: of the American people. That's why they get so upset 757 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: about this. That's why there's such rage about Elon specifically. 758 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: There is no good faith reason to be angry about 759 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: what Elon is trying to accomplish, and all Democrats do 760 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: is complain about it. All they do is try to 761 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: stand in his way. It tells you everything you need 762 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: to know. Tomorrow, join me online for a special videotaped interview. 763 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: It starts at eleven am Eastern, just an hour before 764 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: the show. It's a conversation with my dad. You won't 765 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: want to miss. I grew up in New York, Citi, 766 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: as you know, in a stockbroker family. My dad was 767 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: a stockbroker and made his name by making incredible calls 768 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: in advance about where the market's going. Most notably, he 769 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: became famous back in eighty seven when he called the 770 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: crash in advance on TV. He nailed it. He also 771 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: called the crash in two thousand and nine for his 772 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: private clients. It's an incredible track record. The predictions are 773 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: too numerous to get into all here, but the big one, 774 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: the latest one, comes tomorrow, March twelfth. Register online to 775 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: check this out. It's an hour before this radio show starts. 776 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: To sign up for the event. It's free. Go to 777 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: this website. Disruption twenty twenty five dot com. That's Disruption 778 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five dot com paid for Paradigm Press. 779 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 5: Making America great Again isn't just one man, It's many. 780 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 5: The team forty seven podcasts Sundays at noon Eastern in 781 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 5: the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the 782 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 783 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I was 784 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: mentioning before this story about Mahmood Khalil. This is getting 785 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of attention right now. New York Times and 786 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: others all in up in arms about this. So let's 787 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 1: let's look at what this story is. You will remember, 788 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: and we talked about it here on the show. There 789 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: were some just outrageous anti Semitic protests, and protest doesn't 790 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 1: really cover because some of it was threats, trespassing, destruction 791 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: of property. There were crimes that were committed. Now I'm 792 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: not saying these are all serious felonies or you know, 793 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: there's something, but there were there were crimes that were 794 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: committed on campus. And Trump has said that they can 795 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: either clean up their act or they're going to lose 796 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: I think they're set to lose hundreds of millions of 797 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: dollars at Columbia in federal grants. Why are private institutions 798 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: like Columbia getting hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money? 799 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: Very good question, something to be looked at. We're going 800 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: to look at that. But this case is interesting to me. 801 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of back and forth. The Speaker of 802 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: the House just you know, it's already gone up to 803 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: that level. Speaker of Ause Johnson took time from the 804 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: ongoing wrangling of Members of Congress or the continuing resolution 805 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: to address this, and he said that this is cut eighteen. 806 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: Here's Speaker Mike Johnson play it. 807 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: If you're on a student visa, I'm gonna say this clearly. 808 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: If you were on a student visa and you're in 809 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 2: America and you're an aspiring young tearrist who wants to 810 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: prey upon your Jewish classmates, you're going home. We're going 811 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 2: to arrest your tale, and we're going to send you 812 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: home where you belong. And that this is just getting started. 813 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: So look, I. 814 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: Appreciate free speech. I used to defend it in courts, 815 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: but this is far beyond the Pael of that when 816 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 2: you were threatening your classmates and spewing anti Semitism and 817 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: all this hatred. It's enough, and I think the American 818 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: people understand that they're supporting it, and I'm glad we 819 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 2: have a president who's strong enough to lay down the law. 820 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 1: So I've got a lot of thoughts about this, and 821 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: I do want to hear from some of your old 822 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 1: but we're going to be coming to close the show 823 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: here pretty soon, so maybe get your talkbacks, reading your 824 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: emails ready because they won't have that much time for calls. 825 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: Here's what I see on this. This guy was part 826 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: of these Columbia protests. Machmoud Khalil. We'll just call hi 827 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: Khalil from here here on out in Arabic class. My 828 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: Arabic name was Khaled, for those who want to know 829 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 1: back in the day. It's been a while I could 830 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: still write it, I guess if I had to. So yeah, anyway, 831 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: So this guy Khalil, he was arrested at his home 832 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: by ICE agents and is facing deportation. He's a big 833 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 1: pro Palestinian guy. Now, this is where it all gets 834 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of. This is where a lot of the fighting happens, 835 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: right because they say, well, you're allowed to be pro Palestinian. Okay, yeah, 836 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: you're allowed to be pro Palestinian. Sure, I'm talking about 837 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: First Amendment stuff, But are you proposed, Tony, you're pro Hamas. 838 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: AMA's a terrorist entity. If you are selling T shirts 839 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: to raise money for Hamas, it's a designated terrorist. And 840 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he did this. I'm just working through 841 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: some of the the you know, the intricacies here of 842 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: this of this case. If you're selling T shirts or mugs. 843 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,919 Speaker 1: You know, if you're selling a mug, iHeart Hamas. First 844 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: of all, you're a lunatic second of all, and you're 845 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: trying to send that money to Hamas. That's material support 846 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: to a terrorist organization. I think you can get ten 847 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: years ten years federal for that. So that's clearly a 848 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: violation of the law. And that's for anybody. You're here 849 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: at as an American Green carn hold that does matter 850 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: any you can't do that. You're you're in US jurisdiction 851 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: of any kind and you're doing some material support for 852 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: terrorist organization. Now, can you speak in favor of a 853 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: terrorist organization under the First Amendment? Clearly you can. So 854 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: you can say you know, you can't say that I 855 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: agreed with, you know, the plans of Abu Bakkerel Baghdadi 856 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,479 Speaker 1: to create a caliphate or something. You know, you can 857 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: say that, but you can't take any steps to advance 858 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: or assist or help because then again we get back 859 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: to material support. You can't be a US spokesman for 860 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: that group. Then you're definitely going to Gitmo or something. 861 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: So there are places where this cross is over very quickly. 862 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: Here is what we know about this guy, Khalil. He 863 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: was at Columbia. He was a prominent face of these 864 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: again they called them protests. It was really and there 865 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: were Jewish students who were you know, hounded and harassed 866 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: on campus. I hate all of that, like I you 867 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: know how I feel about Israel's fight against Amas. Could 868 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: not be more in favor of Israel doing what it 869 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 1: needs to defend itself. You know how I feel about 870 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: anti Semitism, and it has no place anywhere here. Here's 871 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: the only place where I have a little bit of 872 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: a question about this. On the one hand, I feel 873 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: very strongly that if you're if you're a guest here, 874 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: you've got to be on meaning if you're not, you know, 875 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: if you're somebody who's visited, and this even includes people 876 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: who have a green card, you're not yet a citizen. 877 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: If you break the law, you gotta go. You got 878 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: to go, right that I am, And that has not 879 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: been the cases we've seen with a lot of there's 880 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: so so much of a lack of enforcement on this. 881 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: But if you break the law, you got to go. 882 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be like a rape or 883 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: a murder. It's just if you break the law and 884 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: you are charged with a crime, you gotta go. The 885 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: issue that I see here is this guy I don't 886 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: believe has been charged with any crime. I don't believe 887 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: he's been charged with any crime. His behavior, from what 888 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: I can gather from everything, is abhorrent. I disagree with 889 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: him on everything. I think he's a scumbag. He's a 890 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: guest in this country. Yes, So he has that elevated, 891 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: that elevated expectation of you know, you don't get to 892 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: just do whatever, like you don't get And now in 893 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: the actual laws that pertain to this with when it 894 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: comes to immigration, there are you know, there are things 895 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: that specifically cite a desire to overthrow the United States 896 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: by force so if you're even so, there are ideological 897 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: places where you you know first of it. If you 898 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: come to this country and you're let's say you're from 899 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: communist China and you are visiting on a student visa 900 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: and you start saying out in public, I think that 901 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: there should be a violent revolution overthrow the United States government. 902 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm out, we can kick your butt out of here. 903 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: That is in the law. There's no doubt about that right. 904 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: That is that is statute. I actually was reading the 905 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 1: statue before I came on this morning to make sure 906 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: a lot of immigration statutes are ignored as we know, 907 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: and that should not be the case because they are 908 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: existing law, just like all the other laws. With this guy, 909 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: where I think it gets interesting is has he if 910 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be sent home as a as somebody who's 911 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 1: here on a student visa as a Green card holder? 912 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: I've heard both. By the way, guys, can we check 913 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: on that is he a green card holder? Or is 914 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: he here on a student visa? Or is it is it 915 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: one then the other? Is it both? Got to check 916 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: his status. You should be on your best behavior here. 917 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: You do not have the full rights of a citizen here. 918 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: Obviously you can't vote. There's a whole bunch of things. 919 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: If you're a guest here, you you should just be 920 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: thankful and total obedience to the law. If he broke 921 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: the law, and that's why we're sending him home, well 922 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: there should there should at least be a charge filed, 923 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: right that somebody should charge him with. 924 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 6: Uh. 925 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: And there's a bunch that I think would apply here. 926 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: Harassment and you know, intimidation. Menacing, I believe is a 927 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: statute in the Penal Code in New York City if 928 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: memory serves. When I was in the NYPD briefly the NYPD, 929 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 1: and and I was kind of like a hired nerd 930 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: for the NYPD, I wasn't doing the like real cop stuff, 931 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: but I think menacing would be in there, you know, 932 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: assault and battery, destruction of property, any of that. But 933 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,919 Speaker 1: to say that he's done it and therefore we're kicking 934 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 1: him out without him being charged with any of that 935 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: that I know he's a scumback. I don't like this 936 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: guy or what he stands for either, but we have 937 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: there there is due like there is due process. We 938 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: still do need due process. So has he gotten that 939 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: due process yet? That that is a question that I 940 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: have about this. A judge has already blocked now I'm 941 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 1: sure a left wing judge his removal from the US 942 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: pending an action on habeas as in, why is this 943 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: guy in custody? This is going to get interesting because 944 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: if he's in custody for not you know, for saying 945 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: bad things, Okay, well that's not really a crime. If 946 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: he's in custody for breaking laws, let's bring that charge 947 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: and then let's go and let's find him guilty, and 948 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: then let's send his ass home. Very straightforward again, I'm 949 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: all for you have to behave and you have to 950 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: obey the law in this country, especially if you're a 951 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: visitor or else you go home. No, no offens or butts. 952 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: But if we're saying that he was trying to call 953 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: for the violent, I think he wanted to call for 954 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm raising questions here, I haven't 955 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: been able to look at everything this guy's ever said. 956 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: And there's I think he said he wants to the 957 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: downfall of Western civilization, right, And that's where we get to. 958 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: Can you look at the downfall of Western civilization as 959 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: the equivalent in statute of a violent overthrow of the 960 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 1: United States government. You know, it's it's getting pretty close. 961 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: This is this is where the judgment starts to come 962 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: in again. Anybody who wants the violent overthrow of or 963 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: the overthrow rather Western civilization, I'm opposed to with every 964 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: fiber of my being. It would be a disaster, not 965 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: just for those of us who live in Western civilization, 966 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: but for the rest of the world because we kind 967 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 1: of prop up civilization for everybody else too. Just saying so, 968 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,720 Speaker 1: I want to see what exactly it was that uh, 969 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: and this is gonna come out in the Habeas Habeas 970 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: corpus petition, right, this is what they're fighting over. Okay, well, 971 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: why is this guy in custody? And I keep hearing 972 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: all of these different things, and now I'm just gonna 973 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this, is this applicable in this 974 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: case specifically applying to issues of anti Semitism and anti 975 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: Jewish speech on campus? Is it going to be applied 976 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: to other speech on campus that is particularly problematic? And 977 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: who is going to determine what that problematic speech may be? 978 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: I bring it up because let's just fast forward. Forget 979 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: about where we are now. Our team, the good guys 980 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: are in charge and I know it's like we trust them, 981 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: right for the most part. You go to a if 982 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: I say AOC administration, you'll all just start laughing, so 983 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: you won't even follow the analogy. But you go to 984 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: a Gavin Newsom, you're probably still laughing. A Gavin Newsom administration. 985 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: And somebody on campus wants to say or is saying 986 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: things that are highly highly offensive to Democrats. Are they 987 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: going to be able to and they're visiting, right, they're 988 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: not an American citizen, they do not citizenship, right, our 989 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: Democrats can be able to say, you're calling for the 990 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: extermination of trans people, you're calling for violence against trans people. 991 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna tell me, oh, no, come on, 992 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 1: these people think that a man can become a woman. 993 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: You don't think they're going to make this argument. At 994 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,479 Speaker 1: some point if we start to open this up again, 995 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: there has to be I just want to know what 996 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: the clear process is here. Mamood Khalil stands for everything, 997 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: stands against everything that I stand for on the issues 998 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: that concerns him or on the reasons, and his anti 999 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: Semitism is vile and the guy shouldn't be in this country. 1000 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: But I just want and this is where the Habeast 1001 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: peedition comes in. We need clarity on what is the 1002 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: reason that he's being removed. Because if the executive branch 1003 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: can point to someone and say, well, you're a visitor 1004 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: here and I just don't like what you're saying, even 1005 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,959 Speaker 1: if in this case it's fully warranted, we totally agree 1006 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: with it, there's a precedent that they can just tell people, oh, no, 1007 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to come here and say that you're 1008 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: not allowed to I'm here as a as a refugee 1009 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: from say, as a white refugee from South Africa, which 1010 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: is another thing that Trump has been talking about and 1011 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: talk about the state racism in South Africa against white 1012 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: South Africa. No, no, no, not allowed. That that's creating, 1013 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, racial disharmony in this country and it's so 1014 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: you have to go home again in the Gavin Newsom administration. 1015 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. I want clarity in this. 1016 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not opposed to it, but I want 1017 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: some of these answers because we need to be clear 1018 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: about what the standard is. And the standard can't just 1019 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: be a one off standard on this issue. As as 1020 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: awful as the anti semitism stuff on campus was because 1021 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: if it is just speech we really don't like on campus. 1022 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: Remember I wrote my college thesis on speech codes on campus, right, 1023 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: So this is going back for me a long time. 1024 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this issue over twenty years ago 1025 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: and researching it and looking at all the different speech 1026 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: codes of a whole range of different schools. If it's 1027 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: just going to be you say things that are really 1028 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: heinous and bad, and then they claim that somehow that's 1029 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: inciting violence, and then that's a violation of your student visa, 1030 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: the other side is going to be empower at some point, 1031 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: and I can assure you they will abuse this, which 1032 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: is why the process matters. So I have a little 1033 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: bit of a different take on this, I think than 1034 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: some other people on the right right now, inso much 1035 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: as I want more I want I want more issues, 1036 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: more answers rather and more clarity on this one. But yes, 1037 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: if you break the law and your visitor gone, If 1038 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: you violate statute, you're a visitor gone. That is absolutely 1039 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: But you got to do one of those to show 1040 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: me the violation the statute, show me where the law 1041 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: is broken, and show me where the charge has been leveled. 1042 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: It can't just be someone determines it because they say so, right, 1043 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 1: I would think, unless I guess maybe an immigration judge 1044 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: can just unilaterally decide based on This is where you 1045 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: have to get very specific in the immigration statute. That 1046 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: may be the case. Executive branch may have full authority 1047 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: tell this guy that, you know, you go packing. And 1048 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to that at all. I'm for that. 1049 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I just want to know what is he being sent 1050 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: packing for, because saying stupid, heinous things I need. I 1051 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: need more specificity than that. If it's overthrowing Western civilization 1052 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: is tantamount to overthrow the United States government, well let's 1053 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: have this will come out in the Habeas petition, by 1054 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the way, so we will return to this issue. 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