WEBVTT - Phillies Legend Cole Hamels on FT 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.920 Hey, Philly's legend Cole Hamils is here joining us live 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.400 on Fouled Territory right now. Cole, It's great to see 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.319 you and happy All Star festivities in Philly. Is it 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:14.200 cool to be back here and hanging out? 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:14.600 Oh? 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:15.160 Absolutely? 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.160 I think you know, anytime you're able to come into 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.400 the city for you know, sort of a playoff atmosphere, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:22.240 you know, the All Star break is special. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.840 Yeah. The city just kind of absorbs it and takes them. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:27.760 And it's been awesome been here for the last couple 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.000 of days seeing everything that's kind of transpired. And I've 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.840 been to a few All Star games, this has been 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.600 something very very special. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:37.960 The fans have turned off the energy, so it's been great. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:39.519 Have you running around crazy? 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.560 Oh god? Yes, this is just break. It's like my break. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.320 But I think the best part is at least I 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.159 know the city so I can kind of you know, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:48.879 coordinate and get everything taken care of. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.559 So yeah, it's been good though. They've done a goods. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.520 Like I saw Jason Worth yesterday. I think he might 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.319 have just gotten here. Yeah, and he was undering in the. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.720 Tunnel and he was running around. I was like, hey, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.040 what's up. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.880 He's like I gotta go. I got me and I 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.279 was like, you know, you're because one's supposed to come. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.240 Now I'm here, So now they're doubling me up. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:03.760 Oh god. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.920 Well and you know Chase, I mean, he just played 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.039 in the golf tournament in Tahoe and then Lands and 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.600 they have him going. So they they've done a really 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.800 really good job with how we can interact with the fans. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.240 And you know, Phillies they're all about that. I mean 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.759 just the passion they have so that we're we're happy, good. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.440 Time and you guys are you guys are the beast knees, 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.640 the oh wait champs will always have a place in 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:28.320 Philly fans. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:29.759 Hearts. Now, who do you want? 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.560 Who do you like seeing when you guys all come 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.080 back together, when you come when this group gets together 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.839 the list, you're like, oh, I get. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:38.680 To see that. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.319 So this is funny because he just landed yesterday and 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:46.400 came straight to it. Ryan Matson, Ryan Mats and mad 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.600 Dog Hey Land. I think he was in the Bahamas 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.880 and he came. We saw him in the suite yesterday 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.200 and Work goes up to him, Chase goes up to him. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.400 I'm there, like he just he was such a good 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.680 teammate and kind of you know, I think you have 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:01.920 to be when you're in the bullpen. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.800 But we love him and he's been good. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.360 You don't have to be I saw him. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.040 I saw him in eleven when he was kind of 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.440 transitioning and like Lys was kind of transitioning to the 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.960 eighth inning. And then it was gonna be like mad 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.360 Dog in the next year. Obviously the contract stuff didn't 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.040 work out. Pap came in. He was the exact same 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.640 dude in Kansas City when we were together in fifteen 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.640 and won the World Series. Like, he is that guy, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.919 So I like that. Who said that, yeah. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.600 You root, you root for the Phillies, right, yeah, absolutely, 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.520 no root for him. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.560 Because that's one of the thing because okay, because people 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.840 have to I played for more team teams obviously, but 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.919 people like pretty Rooper. I always say the White Sox 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:42.679 say why I said, Well, I won there. I was 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:43.639 there the longest, Right. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.320 What I meant by that is what was it twenty 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.000 three when they went to the World Series. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.080 We two, So that's my question, Right, it is the 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.959 last team to win, So like the eighty team forever 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.200 was the team in Philly, right, nineteen eighty team. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.519 Then you guys won in two thousand and eight. Same 0:02:58.560 --> 0:02:59.880 in Chicago two thousand and five. 0:02:59.919 --> 0:03:02.440 We one they've never seen the Phillies and the White 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.680 White Tars haven't really kind closed since then. But the 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.200 Phillies have been to the world too. Is they've done 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.240 deep in the playoffs before. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:08.560 Do you root for them to win? 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.440 I do, And I think the fact that a lot 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.600 of us want want them to win is because it's 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.200 such a special group to be a part of. We 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.400 want more to join, you know, we want we want 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.359 these guys because it is like we look at now 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.000 the eighty guys. They were so good to us and 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:27.640 they're still incredible mentors. They love having us around, and 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.720 now we want that kind of next group of guys 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.720 to kind of come in so that we can kind 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.160 of be that help liaison of what it's all. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:35.840 About to win. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.760 And so yeah, we want them to win, and we'd 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.280 love for them to win back to back. I mean, 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:41.720 that would be kind of awesome if we can get 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.720 multiple championships, because it's hard, it's very difficult to do 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.640 and they do have a talented team, so it's just 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.080 a matter of time to try to get it done. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.600 Are you surprised they haven't won yet? Because they've had 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:53.680 this group together. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:53.720 For a ban. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.080 They are stars, they've performed well, playoffs, the whole deal. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.960 They haven't gotten I know. And and that's what just 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.200 shows you. It's it's so difficult to win. And I 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.960 really do think that they've had the opportunities, just haven't 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.880 been able to do it. Just like even the team 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.600 that I played for, you know, in eight, nine, ten, eleven. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.520 I mean we had star studied lineups and you know, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.360 on paper, everything looks great, but it's when it comes 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.960 down to it, you have to deliver in the right 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.240 big moments. And and so that's that's kind of what 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.000 Philly is right now. They have to deliver in the 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:25.800 big moments. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.279 I mean, that's eleven team. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.320 We should have won the World Series that Do you 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.359 ever look at that team with For people who don't know, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.760 is Roy Holliday, Ole Hammils, roy O's Walt, Joe Blanton, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:40.440 Vance Whirley. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.599 You did, but you did. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.840 Because everybody knows that Cliff was easily the worst of 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:51.440 the whole team. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:53.000 If he listens to. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.200 This stillmaker or something. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.480 But do you look at that? 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.440 Do you look at that team when you watch other 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:03.039 teams that are doing super well now and go where 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.800 they're at, like I feel where like they were really close, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.560 but I understand. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.040 No, it's yeah, I mean that team you could look 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.280 at us and we knew we're gonna win every single day, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.839 or you know, you you could put your money on it. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.800 I mean, it was kind of one of those situations 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.080 and it's just unfortunate didn't happen. And you know, the 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.640 Cardinals were hot. Chris Carbenter is pretty damn good too, 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.159 so you know, it's just kind of you have to 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.440 look how they matched up and now, Yeah, you look 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.120 at teams now and it's matchups. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.880 And delivering in the big moments. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.960 I mean, sometimes you have those stars that don't know 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.559 their stars yet and they deliver in the big moment, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.320 they make a name for themselves and you start talking 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:41.760 about them. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.719 Many people have this problem. I want to eat healthy. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.919 I have the willpower, I don't have the time and 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.520 the organization. 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And yeah, I one hundred percent agree with that. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.159 It's something where you don't want to be that fifth option. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.520 And you know, I understand what he's been able to 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:17.200 do and accomplish, especially after that surgery. He's delivering like 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.920 a superstar and he wasn't treated like a superstar. And 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.800 I feel like that's kind of what the All Star 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.360 Game is all about, is you have the superstars and 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.640 you have those guys that deliver, and he's that guy. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.120 You can't be fifth down the line. And so I 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.520 think it's something where it sparks a conversation. Now for 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:42.720 those accolades carry a ton of weight, especially when you're retired, 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.600 especially in contracts. I mean, it sounds better when you're 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.560 a five time All Star than a three time All Star. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.440 I mean that is huge, and that is Zach. I mean, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.760 the guy is a cy young candidate. You know, he's 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.960 he's going to be a big guy at the end, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:00.640 and he's not get the credit. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.360 And also once every twenty thirty, forty fifty years sometimes 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.080 for teams to have All Star games and you had 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.800 a layup low two Zra player's gonna be a Hall 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.200 of Fame all like it's it's everything happening all at once. Also, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.360 I know you saw like Phillies were after a terrible start, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.720 other things happened but Zach Wheeler comes back, they take 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.200 off the moment that he could have had here. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.400 Yes, Christopher Sanchez gets his moment absolutely, but as he 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.800 was a smart I mean, he's the spark plug bear. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.880 He sets the tone and to then kind of have 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.280 the situation happen the way it did. Yeah, I think 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.040 it's a big conversation that I think needs to happen 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.120 in the CBA and with the commission about really what 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.440 the All Star Game is about, but also what that 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.320 does to people's careers and how it really describes and 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.600 shows the credit you have to give credit? 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:52.640 Where's credits? Due? 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.160 By way, I argued that all an All Star Game 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.720 shouldn't start if they're just going to give All Star 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:02.160 appearances and you know there's eighty five alls. No, there's 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.000 less this year. I think last year's eighty five alls. Well, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.840 as you know you're up for the Hall of Fame. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.520 Oh he was a four time All Star. If you 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.120 were a seven time All Star, right, people were like, whoa, 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.720 he was even better than I thought because of the 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.000 All Star Well, if you're gonna cheapen it and then 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.000 not have a guy like Zach Wheeler, then you shouldn't 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.120 use that fort salary, and you shouldn't use that for 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:21.520 the Hall of Fame. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:22.319 It will never change. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.280 I get it, but that's what that's like my big argument. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:27.440 I don't want to get into that one. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.080 But I also wist. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.000 No, this is actually kind of interesting because the game 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.880 of baseball, if you're playing for one team, that team 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.560 in that division kind of knows who you are. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.480 The rest of the league doesn't. All star games are 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.880 kind of what put you on the map. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.880 So this keeps the conversation going about how good you 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.160 really are that other fan bases don't see all the 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:50.680 time because they don't face you. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.960 There's a lot of really good players. This is where 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.360 you get the acknowledgment, and so why prevent that? 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:57.560 I agree? I agree? 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.640 All right, your last start of the Philly was a 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.240 no hit, which is unbelievably awesome. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.120 It's so cool. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.520 Can you imagine if Charlie Manuel would have come to 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.760 you and said, you're in the eighth inning, You're like, cool, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.280 You're in ninety two pitches. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.440 That's it for the day. You're done. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:13.880 Go take us to go have a beer. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:14.240 Wrigley. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.400 Right, No, it wasn't Charlie. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.360 It was Pete mccannon and Pete. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.000 Yeah we had Pete mccannon. Yeah, okay, so no we 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:21.400 have Pete. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:21.480 No. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:22.960 Charlie had been like, you can go out there for 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:28.400 the tenth you keep going yeah, home run. Yeah, no 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.640 he was there, but yeah, the game has changed a 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.280 little bit. Yeah. I think it's a lot where pitchers 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.400 need to really. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.800 Learn how to have beneficial conversations with the pitching coach, 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:47.480 with the manager, with the analytics about this these numbers 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.319 that are coming up in the sixth seventh inning, Like, no, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.160 I'm pacting myself like they have to be up front 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.040 a little bit more gone. No, I've got this strategy 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.120 right now, let me do it. I still have more 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.480 in the tank, but I don't need to expose it yet. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.599 They have to have more conversation because I think that 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.839 was something I learned is if Charlie came out, I'm like, no, Charlie, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.040 I've still got something. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:09.920 Let me go batter by that. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.960 Let's work towards something you can trust me, not you 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:14.800 know the whole I've got. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.040 I'm going to finish what I started and then you're hanging. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:18.920 You have to learn how to communicate. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.840 And this is a guy now like We are definitely 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.120 in the era of don't pitch a lot. There's a 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.520 lot of thirty two's and thirty threes all the way 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:28.160 down this list. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.600 You made your starts, yep. Did you make your starts because. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.640 You went first inning hunch hunch, hunch, brick, best breaking 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.640 ball of the game, punch out or did you make 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.520 all those starts because you were able to do what 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:39.960 you said? 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:40.760 Yes? 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.320 No, I'm pacing myself. My whole goal was give me 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.840 close to one hundred and ten pitches and we're gonna 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:49.280 work down. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.320 But I'm going nine innings. And that was the bullpen. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.040 Knew it, and it was if I wasn't throwing first 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.920 switch strikes, I don't need to throw ninety five mile 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.000 an hour first pitch strike. I could throw ninety one 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:02.880 down and a way, or I'm going up and in. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.280 I'm still trying to figure it out. I can throw 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.560 o curveballs, you know, something where I could pace and 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.880 wasn't as stressful because I'm trying to build towards the 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.440 whole game, not just blow it out in the first 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.600 Guys feel strategic pressure from coaching staffs and really front 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.000 offices to go all out right away. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.160 And just give me your vest five or six or whatever. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.600 Some guys have been able to overcome that and go 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.800 deeper into outings. But I know you mentioned it's a conversation. 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.120 How do you foundationally change all of that or revert 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.120 it back when they're saying, no, our percentage chance of 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.800 winning is better because we might get one more punch 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.880 out in the first inning instead of a home run. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.959 You know, it starts to play a percentages game. That's 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.080 what they're putting in their computer. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.600 I think that the importance is spring training. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.080 I think spring training is where you set the tone, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.920 where you're talking about where you're working things. I mean, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.600 Eric knows I didn't throw ninety miles an hour in 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:54.760 my first spring training game. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.560 I was like eighty five eighty six. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.679 I was just a slow build up, and I wanted 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.840 to peek in the middle of the season and I 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.760 wanted to finish Sean. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:03.840 I mean it was I want to. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:08.440 Post my thirty four starts, plus I tried to prepare 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.520 for at least four to five starts in the postseason. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.760 My whole training regiment in the off season and in 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.679 spring training alone was to play until November first, and 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.199 that was what I did, and I learned a lot 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.840 from Roy Holiday because that was his mentality too. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.000 The whole team was that well, I mean I got 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.640 when I got to PILLI en eleven, the whole team 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.840 was didn't matter if you were a rookie or a 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.440 fifteen year vet, and was like, we're not We're Everything 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.280 else was about the windows. We were playing into November first, yep, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:38.720 and I mean I saw it in the pitching stead. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.640 I saw it in everything. That's also weird about twelve, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.360 and that's what brings me to my twenty twelve, Oh 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.199 Hamma story. We were in La. Do you remember going 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.000 You probably don't have. Our conversation with LA looked like 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.199 they were one of the teams that was going to 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:52.640 trade for you. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:53.880 Yes, yeah they were. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:54.920 And you and I were. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.520 Sitting in the Doug app and you looked around and 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.960 you were like something from southern California, and you were like, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.680 I just don't know if I could play at a 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.719 place with this type of energy. Obviously twelve we were 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.280 kind of we're out of it and are we out 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.079 of it? All that stuff. So it's a trade deadline 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.160 coming up. Then you signed your extensions. Yep, how much? 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.480 How long did that decision weigh on, dude? And how 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.480 hard was that decision once the team offered you the extension. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.640 If not, you're getting traded in your career would have 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.920 been completely different. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:26.400 Oh my gosh. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.560 Yeah, that was those two weeks kind of going into 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.680 the All Star break and then going into the trade 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.560 deadline July. It was shaky because Philly was all. I know, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.280 I've had an incredible career here. I wasn't ready to 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.440 give that up because the intensity of the fans. I mean, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.680 the NLS, that is a fun division. I mean, the 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.920 cities they are going to, the you know, the type 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:49.640 of competition. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.400 I do love California. I enjoy It's a great place 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:53.800 to play. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.920 But I was still hooked on this division, this team, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.080 this city, and I still had hope. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.720 I mean I still had hope of what we were doing. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.440 I still the pitching staff was still holiday Lee myself. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.640 We still had Chase, Ryan, Jimmy. I mean we still 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.480 hat you know, Pince, we had the upper start was 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.200 still there. 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