1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian. There are two hundred and twelve 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: thousand a s C Certified technicians in the country, The 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. How many are a s C certified Master 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: technicians seventy two thousand. That's less than the amount of 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: people to play Major League Baseball. Welcome to the radio 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: home of ron and Anian The Car Doctor. Since this 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If you're mechanics giving you 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six and 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: now he running Hello and welcome. I want to talk 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: to you today. Well let me get let me get 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the other stuff out of the way first. This is 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Ronny in the Car Doctor. Thanks for stopping by the garage. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: The phone number eight five five five zero nine nine 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: zero zero. Other car Doctors toll free call in get 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: your car question answered phone number eight five five five zero. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: There's more information about this radio show at car Doctor 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: show dot com. Naturally, all the links that we always 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: talk about are there for tune in and iTunes and 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: I Heart and all that other good stuff. If you 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: need me during the week, it's Ron at Car Doctor 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: Show dot com. I want to talk to you a 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: little bit real quick about common sense and we're gonna 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: beat the phrase up again. We're probably gonna overdo it 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: because common sense isn't so common. I like to look 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: at cars as they progress. I'm not sure if it's 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: a positive progression. They just change and and think about 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: where they came from and where they're going. Ford Motor 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Company back in the late nineties and the early thousands 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 1: two thousands, for their four wheel drive vehicles had these 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: mechanical and a choice of mechanical locking hubs and vacuum 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: style assist hubs that we're difficult in some cases and 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: very expensive to repair, and others that left just leaving 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: a lot you were like. Then somewhere around the mid 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: two thousands, two thousand three, two thousand four, they switched 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: to vacuum control hubs. So if you're driving a four 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: wheel drive vehicle or you want to know how that 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: and this is because everybody you know here we are 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: in America, everybody's got to join a gym, everybody's gotta 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: run on a treadmill, everybody's got our job right, a bicycle, 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: get some exercise, but they're too lazy to get out 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: of a vehicle, walk up to a front hub and 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: go click and move the four wheel drive hub from 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: freewheel into lock. Great, spend your money at the gym, folks, 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: and keep drinking that Starbucks. So it becomes a point 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: that now with the flick of a switch on a dash. 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Because we're too lazy to get our keysters out of 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the truck and go out there and change the hubs, 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: we create a vacuum locking hub that bolts to the 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: front differential. So now you can sit there and changes 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: and a vacuum line goes down to a hub and 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: it applies vacuum to a diaphragm and it turns a 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: solid and it turns off the vacuum supply in the 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: hub releases and locks it in four wheel drive, and 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: that locks the front differential and makes it work. We 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: took something that was as complicated as a number two 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: pencil that had to have a point in an eraser 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: in order for it to work, and we made it 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: as complex as a Boeing seven forty seven jet that 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: has a hundred thousand lines of fault code in it. 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: It's a hundred million lines of code in it for 64 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the computers. Two thousand six four at F one come 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: into the shop this week at our in a motive 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: customer complaint of a clicking noise. He said to me, 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like there's a baseball card in the bicycle spoke. Okay, 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I took it for a ride. Sure enough, click click 69 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: click click click click click click click click baseball card 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and the bicycle spoke kind of noise put the truck 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: up in the air. The first thing we noticed was 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the left front wheel spun freely. The right front wheel 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: not so much, pulled the wheels down. The right front 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: brake was gone. Well, it was still there, but there 75 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of brake pad left. Call it what 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: it will. It was a NAT's eyelash from being metal 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: on metal. It needed front breaks. The rotor was heat 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: cracked and blew. But once we finally got the caliper 79 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: off and it could spend the wheel, you'd here click 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: click click click click click click click click. Huh gee, 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: how's that happened? It seems like there's a there's an 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: issue here. Took it all apart, found that the vacuum 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: hub for the front wasn't properly holding vacuum because in 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: there ingenious idea. This is the second thing that makes 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: it so complicated. There's vacuum all the time to the 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: front hub. So if the vacuum gets displaced automatically the 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: truck goes into four wheel driver, it locks the front differential, 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: not as is early a transfer case. I know why 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: they did that. They think like GM did back in 90 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: the eighties. General Motors used to have it. And this 91 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: is because somewhere back in the late seventies there was 92 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: a lawsuit where a General Motors customer froze to death 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: and the estates sued General Motors, if I remember correctly, 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: because they froze to death because the vacuum line fell off. 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: They couldn't get heat, and they were stuck in a 96 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: snow bank in the middle of Iowa or something, or 97 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: wherever the heck it was. And so from that moment on, 98 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: General Motors changed their heat or control systems so that 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: vacuum always would Loss of vacuum would then apply heat 100 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: and make it so that you couldn't freeze. You might 101 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: sweat the death. In July because of the vacuum line 102 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: fell off. Now was the complaint the other direction, But regardless, 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: what Ford's thinking here, I think is if the vacuum 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: line falls off, the four wheel drive hub with a 105 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: lock and four wheel drive and you'll always have four 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: wheel drive so you can get home in the snow 107 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: bank in Iowa. Because they just don't want to have 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: an issue, this poor customer with this OH six f 109 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: one fifty has to go for a four wheel drive, 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: back set of vacuum hubs. The right front wheel bearings 111 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: bed because it's cooked blue because the vacuum hub failed 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: and left the bearing partially locked on. The clicking noise 113 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: was like two mechanical gears in an ornament and a 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: manual transmission. The slider the synchro wasn't working. They kept 115 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: trying to line up to teeth him click click click 116 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: click click click click. Found a bulletin. You know it 117 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: all comes back to bulletins. Right, found a bulletin that 118 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: talked about water intrusion in the vacuum lines. Not venting 119 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: properly causes corrosion and blockage to prevent proper release and 120 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: cause the vehicle to fail. So they took it from 121 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: something simple. Get out of the truck, get up off 122 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: your butt, locked the hub to vacuum, to push button, 123 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: vacuum to instantaneous four wheel drive. Because again, we want 124 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: to drink our Starbucks, go to the gym to get exercise, 125 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: not get out of the vehicle to do it. But 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: we also made it to the point that now what 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: used to be a set of hubs that were probably 128 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: two d now becomes a repair. You've got to wonder 129 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: where technology is really taking us. And as for me, 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: I think of my father all the time, and he's 131 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: gone a long time. My father passed many many years ago, 132 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and I still remember that day in the car when 133 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: he looked down at me. We were talking about something 134 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: and I was ten years old, and he said, simple 135 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: is always better. You want a refrigerator to be white, 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: keep it cold. When you open the door, the light 137 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: comes on, and that's all you really need that fixed 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: airplanes for a living. I kind of think he knew 139 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: what he was talking about. Eight five five five six 140 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: zero nine zero. I run on any in the car. Doctor, yep, 141 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I think I'm about to get you. I'm gonna hear 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: from the Grievance Committee again, this isn't about crumb cake today, 143 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: is it fell No, no, no. We we just wanted 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: to let you know that you'll be proud of us 145 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: because Tony and Icy we don't belong to Jim's, so 146 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: we get all of our exercise. You hear at the 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Car Doc you show, you know, jumping to conclusions, flying 148 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: off the handle, dodging responsibility and pushing our Look, yeah, 149 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: I could, I could understand that they actually they do 150 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: a heck of a job. These are my guys. But uh, 151 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: it's it's funny to you know, you don't see what 152 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I see. I'm doing the show, and in the back 153 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: of Tom's mind, Tom has laughing because he knows that 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna be using some of these in the next 155 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: week's open. So I'm not really doing a radio show. 156 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm just giving him information and things to react to. 157 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: If you're looking for more information about this radio show, 158 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Show dot com, tune in dot com, I 159 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Heart iTunes dot com, and you know, listen. If you're 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: podcasting and you can't get to this radio show. Uh, 161 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: during the normal show hours Saturday afternoons to to four 162 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: pm Eastern time, give us a call eight five zero 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Leave a message fast, Harry. We'll call 164 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: you back and get you in que. A couple of 165 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: weeks ago, we were talking about engine cleaners and some 166 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: of the products out there on the market, and I said, 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna do some research. And you know what, 168 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: I've forgotten this one right out of sight, out of mind, 169 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: but probably the number one cleaner four are getting rid 170 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: of sludge and varnishing an engine. It's an oldie, but 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: of goody and it's been around forever. As a matter 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: of fact, it's the product that created the term tune 173 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: up in a bottle. It really was the original Rizzlan. 174 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Folks over at Barsley bars leak Rizzlan, um uh really is? 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: You know, that's really where you want to go. You 176 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: can take a look at Rizzlan. Get out to rizzlan 177 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: dot com and take a look at some of their 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: engine treatment stuff. They're concentrated stuff. But Rizzlan was the 179 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: original tune up in a bottle and really great stuff 180 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: for quieting noisy lifters and valves. We were talking about 181 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: that and preventing sludge in those type of things. Rizzlan 182 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: does keep engines clean. I'm not an any end the 183 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back to answer your questions right 184 00:09:38,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: after this. Ye, welcome back. We're on any of the 185 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: Car Doctor here eight five zero nine nine zero zero 186 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: Your car Doctor, your questions, your answers, all the time 187 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: here at Ron and any in the Car Doctor. Keep 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: in mind Car Doctor Show dot com for more show information, 189 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: also podcasts, and also links to tune in my heart 190 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: iTunes dot com and if you need me during the week, 191 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Ron at Card Doctor Show dot com, comes right to 192 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: my desk in the shop. Don't be surprised if I 193 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: tend to pick up the phone, and I do, I 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: may pick up the phone and call you and just 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: get more information. Because really really are trying to do 196 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: is answer car questions. That's what I'm here for. Let's 197 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: get over and answer some questions ourselves. Let's kick open 198 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: the garage doors this hour. Talk to Tom Clifton, New 199 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Jersey and some problems with the camp signal. Tom. Welcome 200 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, sir? Hi, 201 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: ron Y, Hey, what this E three fifty Ford. It's 202 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: a twenty ton body and it looks like it's got 203 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: a seven engine in it. Okay, what what makes you 204 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: think it's a No? Seven engine? That's what the mechanic 205 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: told me. And one of the one of the valve 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: covers actually has a date on it of oh seven. Alright, 207 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: what's and what's what's the exact problem? You've got tom 208 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: check engine light on setting fault code. Um, that's the thing. 209 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: The check engine light has been disabled, so you don't 210 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: notice there is a problem, but it has. It has 211 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: a P three hundred and P three forty right, three 212 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: forty is a CAM sensor fault three hundred is it's 213 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: it's it's seeing random misfire which can be triggered by 214 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the camp sensor fault. So exactly what you really have 215 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: here is a pig and a poke. Um for a 216 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: non technical description. Um, First, first conversations. First, did you 217 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: just buy this vehicle about a month ago? So yeah, okay, 218 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: because my first concern is it won't pass inspection on 219 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: the assum and that this is reparable, that it's not 220 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: so badly hacked together, that it's a Frankenstein vehicle, that 221 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: it can be repaired, that without a check engine light working, 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: it won't pass New Jersey state inspection. What's the g 223 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: VW on it? What's it registered as ten thousand? It's 224 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: a box truck. So now, yeah, it's got it's really 225 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: should have a check engine light that's working. And my 226 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: concern is if they've disabled it the place that sold 227 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: it to you, obviously they're in violation of emissions and 228 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: federal laws. And that's a problem. So that's a that's 229 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: a decision of conscious Tom, that's you know, how do 230 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: you want to go back and address it with these guys? 231 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: And um, uh, the problem is the dealers in Memphis, Tennessee. 232 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh boy, it just gets better, right, So let's let's 233 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: let's see if we can fix this. And um, you know, 234 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: we'll go on the assumption that maybe the bull just 235 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: fell out into somebody's pocket and we have to do 236 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: is put a ball back in it. All right, let's 237 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: let's talk about Yeah, I know, listen, I get these 238 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: two and you know this is um, it's tough. The 239 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: cam signal, Um are are you? Are you the mechanic 240 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: working on this, tim or you the vehicle owner? Bomb 241 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: the owner? And and yeah, the mechanic looked at him, 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: He's like, just drive it the way it is. Then 243 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: you've got to find the new mechanic. That's not the answer. Um, 244 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: The issue here is the cam and the cranks signals 245 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: on this truck give the onboard computer information telling it 246 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: what to do and how to do it all right, 247 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: if it doesn't see a cam signal, this could be 248 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: something as simple as a broken wire. This could also 249 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: be something as complicated as a problem with the cam 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: gear inside the engine. So you know, part of this 251 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: has to be weighed out as far as the expense 252 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: as how deep do you go, how many miles are 253 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: on the truck, what did you pay for it, how 254 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: long do you plan to drive it? And you know, 255 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: all of this comes into play. You know, my biggest 256 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: issue is without the check engine light as this starts 257 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: to set faults as it ages. Um, how will you know? Well, 258 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: I got the I got the skinner hooked up to 259 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: it right, the phone right, and you're gonna have to 260 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: you know. Um, here's the bottom line. Could you afford 261 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: to get rid of the truck and replace it with 262 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: something else? Most likely if I have to. But let 263 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Uh, should this work well? As 264 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: long as all the sensors that are there are equal 265 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: to you know, from to a two thousand seven, Yeah, 266 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: it should work because you do have the issue of 267 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: component mismatch. Clear cut here. Absolutely, this was a case 268 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: where somebody took a body and put a two thousand 269 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: seven salvage yard engine in it. So, you know, now 270 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: we've got the question. You know, we'll a PCM see 271 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: it is is it seeing proper information? Probably the first 272 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: thing someone should really do is go find the CAM 273 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: sensor and take a look at the green violet wire 274 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: that runs between the the sensor and the PCM and 275 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: look to see do we have a signal? Do we 276 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: have a pattern out of that? Is it a good 277 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: clean signal? If the signal is there and it's good 278 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: and clean, does it make it all the way back 279 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: to the PCM. If it's flat, then do we have 280 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: a problem in the wiring harness? You know, listen, as 281 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: as as dogged as this could appear, this could be 282 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: something simple and basic. It's still a it's still a 283 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: tour or a three wire sensor depending upon the vehicle. 284 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: It's it's we know how to fix those. Uh. You know, 285 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: this comes down to someone's got to take a look 286 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: at does it have power, does it have signal? Is 287 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: it clean signal? If the signal is noisy, for example, 288 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: if they look at it on a scope and they 289 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: see a lot of noise on the line. Maybe we've 290 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: got a bad alternator. Alternator diodes caused CAMP sensor problems 291 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of vehicles, Honda's Awards, Chevrolet as we 292 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: see it all the time. So you know, the question 293 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: you've got to be cautious of here is how much 294 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: money are you willing to invest and lose? Notice I 295 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: said it that way to find out that the actual 296 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: repair is going to exceed the value of the truck, 297 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: Because if it turns out that it has good CAMP signal, 298 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: that the PCM is compatible with the engine and its components, 299 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: that the fault is inside the engine, taking the engine 300 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: apart might be more than the truck is worth. And 301 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: then and then you still have no and then you 302 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: still have no check engine light. Yeah. The first thing 303 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: I did was replaced the camshaft censor, and I asked 304 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: for a twenty time camshaft censer. And it's exactly the same. 305 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: If it's just a signal from the cam that's different, 306 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: or there is something with the wiring, or well, I would, yeah, 307 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: I would. If the censor is the same and it's 308 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: a two wire censor, Tom, Yeah, Yeah, it's a two 309 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: wire sensor sensor is the same. No, I would say, 310 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: let's go look at signal, and you need to scope 311 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: to do that. Like I said, somebody's gonna have to 312 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: tap into the green violet and take a look at 313 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: that and look for a good, clean signal out of it, 314 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: and if it's there, then trace that wire back to 315 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the PCM. That should be circuit twenty seven up to 316 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: the PCM. There's a connector there. I think it's one 317 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: that leads to the PCM. You can get out of 318 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: schematic and look at it and you will see. But 319 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: if you've got signal into the PCM, then the censor 320 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: is good, the circuits good. We've got to start thinking, 321 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: do we have a PCM fault but not that common? 322 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: And don't jump the gun, don't just change it. It's 323 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: time to start doing a little scoping and some testing. 324 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: But that's where I would go with this. But like 325 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: I said, my bigger concern is where's the check engine light? 326 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: And and and that's an issue and and that's really 327 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: the big problem because you can find yourself spending a 328 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: lot of money on this truck and fix the camp 329 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: censor fault and then find out that for another reason, 330 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: or another issue. The check engine light's not working. Um 331 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: so just one step at a time. But I would 332 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: start by scoping the cam sensor line. Uh yeah, and 333 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: thanks Tom, I appreciate the call. Let me know if 334 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: I can do anything else to help the problem. And 335 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: I want to just touch on this real quick before 336 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: we take the pause. When you're out buying a used car, 337 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: and it's the simple little things. You've got to take 338 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: a breath and just not jump and we all do it. Listen, 339 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: I've made my mistakes buying used vehicles before. It's it's 340 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: it's not impossible. Stop and look. Do all the dashboard 341 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: lights work? You know, that's what those dashboard lights are 342 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: there for. When you turn the key on without running 343 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the engine. That's called bulb check. Bulb bulb check to 344 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: the bulbs all light up, and it's not there to 345 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: tell if the bulbs are there instead of the bulbs light. 346 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: And if the bulbs light great. If there's no check 347 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: engine light, there's a problem. What are they hiding Because 348 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: the driver a vehicle today without a check engine light, 349 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: you're asking for trouble and expensive repairs somewhere in the 350 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: light of that vehicle. Zero we're back right after this, 351 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: don't away? Welcome back? Aren't you needing the car doctor here? 352 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: Let's quit going on some phone calls to talk to 353 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Conrad Lcross, Wisconsin ninety for buick park ev and some problems. Conrad, 354 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? And 355 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: when I slowed down to make a left corner, right, yeah, 356 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: I'll just go dead after I started to corner. It 357 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: doesn't do it. I'll come to quick stop at a 358 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: stop sign and your carding. Nothing like that. When you're 359 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: just slowing down and say your car is all block 360 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: away and you start and all of a sudden you 361 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: just go dead, all right? When it goes dead, do 362 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you lose to the dashlights come on? Or is it 363 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: just completely dead electrically? Nothing? It goes really then I 364 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: stick in the park and then it starts. Right do 365 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: you do you have dashlights as you're cruising along there 366 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: with the engine off? You know? I I'm not exactly sure, 367 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: but I think I did. Okay, So basically it happens 368 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: when I happened. You're surprised they don't, right, Yeah. Sure, 369 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: it's a it's a moment of panic. Can you repeat it? 370 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is it repeatable? Can you reproduce it? No, 371 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: it just happens on its own. So it's it's it's 372 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: a it's at random whenever it wants, right, and that's 373 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: happened about three times and last two months. All right, 374 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: so this will be out. I just take it to 375 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: the store when I am in talent, so I don't 376 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: worry about the first thing. I want you to have 377 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: somebody check or the motor mounts. I want to make 378 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: sure that. I want to make sure the mounts on 379 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: this car are solid and nothing's broken. All right. What 380 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: I have seen on that generation GM product is mounts 381 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: get soft, they crack, they fall apart. They allow the 382 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: engine and the trans to move around, and on hard 383 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: turns it will tug on the wiring artists and cause 384 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: the car to do exactly what you're describing, depending upon 385 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: how bad they are. All right, we're back. I went 386 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: on the right hand. The money about broken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 387 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: We'll go into an intended acceleration. And we now, now 388 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: we've created see what technology has given us, we've taken 389 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: it backwards. Now we make the car stall so you 390 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: get run over by an eighteen wheeler. So but let's 391 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: let's let's take a look at mounts. The second thing 392 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: that comes to mind is when it goes into this, 393 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: are there any fault codes in this vehicle? Now this 394 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: is four so it's not that smart. It's kind of 395 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: a This car is as smart as the thirteenth grade. 396 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: It's not the brightest bulb in the shed, but there 397 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: still may be some fault codes there. I'd like to 398 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: see something, all right, And number one, number two, I'd 399 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: like a mechanic to find the crank sensor down on 400 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: the front of the motor, on the on the front 401 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: balancer for the crank and position himself really easy, take 402 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: a long three eights extension and with the engine running 403 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: in the bay, just take that long three it's extension. 404 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: He's got to be careful not to get caught up 405 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: in the belt. Drop the extension on the crank sensor itself, 406 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: use it to tap it the weight of the of 407 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: the extension. He doesn't have to bang on it. It's plastic. 408 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: He'll break it. Just annoy it if you gently tap it, 409 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: all right? Does the car shut off? Those were common 410 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: faults for that particular car, all right, and particularly on turns, 411 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: it would get stressed, it would go into a and 412 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: if you combine a bed or a weak crank sensor 413 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: with motor mounts that are oily and chewed up. This 414 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: is an older vehicle. I'm sure it's got some miles 415 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: on it. All of a sudden things starts moving around 416 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: and it's not isolated and bump, clunk, thump, the car 417 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: shuts off. All right. Last last last thought on my 418 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: mind to try and replicate this is, can we go 419 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: and look find the PCM, which I believe is in 420 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: the right front right front kick panel and put it 421 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: down on the carpet on the floor when the car 422 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: is all warmed up and flat palm smack it. And 423 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: if you flat palm smack it, does the car shut off? 424 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: In terms of you know, just stall. All those things 425 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: were common, All those things are possible. First step I 426 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: would do, though, Conrad, is take a look at the 427 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: motor mounts. Make sure the mounts, motor mounts and transmounts 428 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: are all in good shape, because those lead to more 429 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: common faults like you're describing than most people care to remember. 430 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Good luck, Ty, and I'm here if you need it, 431 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: just to give us a call. Let's get over and 432 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: talk to Tom. Two thousand two, Silverado Traverse City and 433 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: some problems with brake lines. Tom, you're at the car doctor. 434 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: How can I help you? Hey, thanks for taking my call. 435 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: You're welcome to what's going on? Yeah? I have a 436 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: two thousand two Chevy Silverado rightular chap, the four point 437 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: eight four wheel drive, and my all the brake lines 438 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: and rusted out, so I had had him replaced at 439 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: a shop. Now I don't have any anti locker ABS breaks, 440 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: and uh, I just was wondering, what is there anything 441 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: I can do? Trump Well, okay, the first question I've 442 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: got to ask is how would you know? I already 443 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: know the answer to this, but I want you to 444 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: tell me. How do you know you don't have any 445 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: ABS breaks? Well, the dash lights light on, the dashes on. 446 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: I can feel it when I hit the brakes. They 447 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: just they just lock up. No, they don't lock at all, 448 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: They just feel like, you know, yes, all right? So 449 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: my first thought is perhaps we are not bled properly, 450 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: and in some cases there is a designated bleed procedure 451 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: that has to be done to these vehicles using a 452 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: dealer level equivalent scan tool. In other words, just the 453 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: old you know bleed and pump at the wheel doesn't 454 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: do it, especially if the system has been bled out. 455 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: So you know, a tech to scan tool would be 456 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: wonderful here if they have access to something like a 457 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: launch A launch scan tool I believe has the procedure 458 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: in it, but I would just want to go through 459 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: and make sure that they've followed proper bleed procedure. I mean, 460 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you the first thought on my 461 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: mind because I've seen shops do this, are all the 462 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: lines where they're supposed to go. It's hard to do, 463 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: but you know, I gotta i gotta tell you, Tom, 464 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: I've seen guys beat themselves up to do things wrong 465 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: for forty three years. It's amazing how much effort they 466 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: go through. So you know, I would look at the 467 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I would look at the way the lines are routed. 468 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: Did they use one of the Delco brake line replacement 469 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: kits or do they fabricate their own lines? He is 470 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: the dealer from the dealer that don't go. So he 471 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: got it from the dealer because he said everything was 472 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: pretty done. But yeah, it's a nice kit. Uh, it's 473 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: a little tedious to install, but as long as all 474 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: the lines are in the right place, My first stop 475 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: would be Can it be bled using a procedure? My 476 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: second question would be what fault code gets spit out 477 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: when you go in for it because the dash lights 478 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: are on. If it's anything related to the module as 479 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: far as the module itself, because those modules do fail 480 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: and I they are. You know, at this age, it's 481 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: fourteen years old, it's got over a hundred thousand miles 482 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: on it. It's as fragile as a newborn or an 483 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: elderly person. Um, it's it's not in the prime of 484 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: its life. You've got to like a little TLC there. Um. 485 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: It may need an A B S controller, it may 486 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: be stuck one position or the other. I've seen cases 487 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: where the system gets bled, and it's if it's got 488 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: a high amount of silter or varnish or contaminant in 489 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: it or particulate. It'll push one of the spools in 490 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: the A B S controller open or the other direction 491 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: it gets grit in it. Now that valve is open 492 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: and it's causing a problem and you never get a 493 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: decent pedal out of the car. Another reason to try 494 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: the bleed procedure. There's also a way that you can 495 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: using a scan tool. If memory serves me, correct too, 496 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: operate the A B S controller. For lack of a 497 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: better way to put it, sort of get it to 498 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: clear the flaps. Think of a toilet. You ever have 499 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: a toilet that runs all the time? Tom, Okay, what 500 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: do you do? You have to move the flap and 501 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: you gotta clean the ring and get the calcium off 502 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: and then get it the seal again. You gotta clean 503 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: your flap, all right. For lack of a better way 504 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: to put it, so a couple of things to go 505 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: look at. I would go down that road and then 506 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: give me a call back and let me know how 507 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: that does it for you, and we can talk further 508 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: from there. Zero the card offers coming back right after this, 509 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: get back coming by all right, welcome back. We don't 510 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: needing of the car doctor here. Zero nine zero zero 511 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: As always as the Car Doctor seven phone number. Give 512 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: us a call, leave a message if we're not on 513 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: the year, and we'll get back to you and talk 514 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: to you about it. Let's get over to the phones 515 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: and talk to Lee and Western Vermont, Western Vermont. I'm sorry, 516 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: I wants to talk about RUSS prevention. Lee. Welcome to 517 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. How can I help? That's right? Well, 518 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: how am I gonna help you? I guess that's what 519 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: it is. Either way, I'm open to get here on 520 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: Sunday mornings. And I heard somebody was complaining from New 521 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: York that car was rusting out, and I said, here 522 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: in New York, are here in Vermont. We use oil undercoating. 523 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: So there there's a bunch of them around and it 524 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: works and it works well. I mean one example that 525 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: I can use is we had a seventy six Mac 526 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: fire engine, Uh no rust on it at all, and 527 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: just sold it it, you know, a couple of months ago. 528 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: And so what's that four years old? Yeah, something like that. Sure, yeah, well, 529 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: and you know, listen, I remember in the old days 530 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: where you could spray oil on cars and it was 531 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: not frowned upon. I don't know how legal it is anymore. Uh, 532 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of spraying oil on cars, I'd 533 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: be a little concerned about the electronics underneath now and 534 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: getting oil into some of those components. There are other 535 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: alternatives though, Like I was saying last week, fluid film 536 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: works really well. We like that. But you know, point well, taken, 537 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I remember back thirty five years ago, and then we'll 538 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: move on where we were requested by customers to pour 539 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: oil down the frames and let the cars run like 540 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: that they keep them from rotting out. So um, yeah, 541 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: oiled oil does work, but we seem to think it's bad. 542 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Although the one the place that I'm going to use 543 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: us as an additive as well or a couple additives 544 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: that was designed and they do meet environmental regulations in 545 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: this wonderful world today. I think one time you go 546 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: back a few years, they use use motor oil on 547 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: them and now it's all clean stuff. And they drill 548 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: the panels, they do the rockers, they do inside outside, 549 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you have a brand Namely, and you can 550 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: find the link we can. I ask you to email 551 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: it to me and we'll look into it and we'll 552 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: talk about it up here on there. Well we'll uh 553 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, let's give credit where credit is do. If 554 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: it's a better mouse trap, we want to know about it. 555 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I say here in Vermont where you got the crap 556 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: they put down in a wintertime as well as they 557 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: uh calcium in the summertime. To keep the dust down. 558 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: You've got to, you know, twelve months out of the year. 559 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: You gotta do something. Yeah, send me an email Ly 560 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: send it to Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com 561 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: and um, if you just send me a link of 562 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: the product, if I could, if I could bother you 563 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: look it up on the I don't know if it's 564 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: a product, but but it's an outfit that does it. Uh, 565 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: and they it's a proprietary product that they're using. I 566 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: don't know what the other ones are using in the neighborhood. 567 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean I got three places that will do it 568 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: within twenty miles of a drive from here. So uh, 569 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: they're all over the place, and I'm understanding more and more. 570 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, local shops are starting to use the stuff 571 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: now because there's I guess there's a new kind of 572 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: oil out or something maybe what you talked about last 573 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: week that meets it. So everybody can get away with it. Well, 574 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: do this if you can. If any one of those 575 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: shops has a website, anything, you can send me a 576 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: link on so I can read about the process. Maybe 577 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: we'll have Harry call them up and interview one of 578 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: them and they can tell us a little bit about 579 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Not that we want to put proprietary 580 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: information on the air, but like I said before, if 581 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: these guys have built a better mouse trap. We want 582 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: to know about it, and we want to make everybody else. 583 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: We want to educate the world. Um, that's part of 584 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: what the car Doctors about. We would be glad to 585 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: talk to someone, so by all means, if you have it, 586 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: send me some more information. Ron at Car Doctor show 587 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: dot com appreciate the call. Lea, let's go over and 588 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: talk to Maureen Base Carlong Island, two thousand three. How 589 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: are you? I'm probably on the outside, so um, please 590 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: excuse the background. Actually, okay, the reason I'm calling is 591 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: can you hear me? Okay, okay, I had it's a 592 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: two thousand three grand dam. I did call about that, 593 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: sure with the bumper problem? What's the problem today? More in? 594 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, well, the problem had been initially when I 595 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: got it, the regulator on the window was weak and 596 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: it broke and they put glue on it twice, and 597 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: then it broke after the second time. My question is, 598 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: it's very frustrating because I want to be able to 599 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: open the window. However, however, is there a way? Its 600 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: worst comes to words that it could be sealed shut? 601 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: Because I had it done by a mechanic about nine 602 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: years ago on my old Chevy. He sealed it shut 603 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: where it wouldn't open. Well, the problem there is in 604 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: the event of an emergency, um, you know, and it's 605 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: it's the driver's side window and you have to get 606 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: out of the car and the event of an accident 607 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: you could be stuck in it. You know. It's to me, 608 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: that's that's that's not really the way I would go. 609 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: It's only a two thousand three, it's not that old. 610 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: I think what the is the case of is the 611 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: mechanic that's working on it, frankly doesn't know what he's 612 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: doing in the fact that it's been glued twice. And 613 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: I had I had heard Harry whispered in my ear 614 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: before that. He told you that it's your problem because 615 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: you drive the car outside and it gets wet in 616 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: the rain. Uh. You know what I gotta tell you. 617 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Somebody that says that that's an idiot, all right, let's 618 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: call it what it is. What I would tell you 619 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: to do is look into replacement parts. I'm sure there's 620 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: a replacement window regulator out there if that's what it needs. 621 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: And if not, if it's it could be something as 622 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: simple as he's using the wrong type of glue to glue. 623 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: If it's a glass to metal track type of repair. 624 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: There's a product out there from three M called three 625 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: M Channel bonding. You could look on the three M 626 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: website and that has to be applied specifically, and if 627 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: it's done correctly, that does not fail. That will bond 628 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: the glass to the metal. If it's a old if 629 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: it's a newer style bolt together window regulator, then there's 630 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: no reason why not to change it. It's not an 631 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: expensive repair, especially when you consider how many times you've 632 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: had to go through and replace this, uh, you know, 633 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: in the last whatever. It is a couple of months. 634 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: So that's the way I would take it, Maureen. If 635 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: you need more information, you've got another problem. By all means, 636 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: give us a call. I'm on Anny in the car doctor. 637 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. She's real, find my phone, 638 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: she's real, find my Hey, welcome back. Why don't they 639 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: need the car doctor real quick? Let's sneak one more 640 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: in Ron and Lake have a su with a two 641 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: thousand and six Toyota Corolla. Yes, sir, how can I help? 642 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: What's going on? Yes, good afternoon, Rochester. You're taking my call. 643 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: You're welcome. I've got the two thousand six Toyo to 644 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: Corola and the vehicle uh, we parked just a new UM. 645 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: We've got about sixty thousand miles on it and it's 646 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: been running great up until last weekend. We were in 647 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: California and out of the blue, uh, it's lost power 648 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: and we couldn't get it to go over about fifteen 649 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: twenty miles per hour and we got a check engine 650 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: light on it. My managed to get it out of 651 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: traffic and looked under the hood, did when I could 652 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: to check things out, restarted. It seemed to run okay, 653 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: and it happened one more time, and we did get 654 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: a check engine light and I did finally started again 655 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: after it's atter a little bit and it ran fine. 656 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: We drove it all the way back to Arizona and 657 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: U Pine. Getting home, I checked for codes and I 658 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: had a P zero six zero six and a P 659 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: zero six zero seven. And from what I can read 660 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: here research, it looks like it possibly could be a 661 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: bad uh uh e c m uh module. But I 662 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: cleared the codes. They've never come back and the things 663 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: run five. Let me let me ask you this ron 664 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: when when you were driving and the clock's gonna take 665 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: me in a minute, were you towing, were you using it, 666 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: were towing a trailer or anything. Um, there's a okay, 667 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: there's anything weird with the break lights, any different break lights, 668 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: and they aftermarket break light assemblies installed the roll standard stuff. 669 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: I do have L e ED tail lights and signals. 670 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: They've been in probably for a couple of years, all right. 671 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Those L e D style turn signals can be causing 672 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: the problem, very common and it will store as a 673 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: six or six and a six O seven. There's a 674 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: bolting out from Toyota that specifically says remove the L 675 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: e ED style aftermarket tail lamps installed and installed the 676 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: originals back in to prevent the problem from reoccurring. There's 677 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: also conversation about battery terminals an alternator output as a 678 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: possible source of the problem. But you gotta get rid 679 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: of the l e D s first. I'm Ronady in 680 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you. 681 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: She was to super bo