1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: dot Com, part of the Giants podcast Network. Welcome to 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: the Giant Huttle Podcast. I'm John Schmilk. It's brought to 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: you by psc and G Energy Efficiency For game time 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: and anytime, visit p SEG dot com slash Giants for discounts, 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: rebates and home energy assessments. All right, big Friday show 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: coming your way today. On the podcast, Bob Pop has 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: always he'll clean up and he'll talk to Giant's head 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: coach Brian Table, Lance Meadow and Paulatino get a breakdown 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: from former NFL wide receiver quadre Ishmael, who now covers 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens down there in Baltimore. But we're gonna 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: lead off with my interview with Giants defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: But first, just a quick reminder go back to the 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: previous episode on this podcast feed. I talked to a 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: friend of the program, Charles Davis. He's on the call 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: for CBS on the Game on Sunday at one o'clock. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Gives us some great insight on the Giants. Sae Kwan 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones with Martin Dale et CETERA. Good conversation with 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Charles makes you check that out. All right, let's get 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: to the program. I lead off with my conversation with 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: John's defensive tackle dextra Lawrence Dex. How are you man? 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Mighty fine? How you doing? I'm mighty fine as well. Thanks. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Talk about the sack last week, you know a lot 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: of people and on our broadcast and we've talked about 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was the turning point of the game. 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: Did you get that sense as the Packers are driving 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: down and you really needed to stop there in the 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: second half, I know you definitely needed to stop there 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: was moving the ball pretty well. Uh. And you know 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: when I sacked him, I realized that he knocked him 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: out of field goal range. So that was pretty good. Um. 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: You know, definitely brought a huge momentum swing to the team. 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 1: And you know that's my job just to keep working 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: and to keep you know, just making play. That's what 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the star players have to do. Take us to the play. 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 1: How did you do it? Honestly, it's it's probably Um 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: T J Tony Um that helped me. Jefferson, he uh 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: mugged up. They called they thought he was men so 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: they squeezed down Kelp running forward and run right through. Um. 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: So he kind of helped me with that sex, So 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I give him some praise, you know. It's funny. And 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: so that's you're talking about how the scheme can help 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: you execute what you're trying to do. Right, And it 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: seems like over the course of the year the defense 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: has improved over the course of games. Right. Can you 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about how you guys work with 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Wink and the defensive staff to make those adjustments you 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: have to during the game to what these other teams 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: are doing they try to attack you. That's allows you 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: to have the second half success. We all listened to 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: each other and for the most part, you know, the 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: coaches listening to the players, and you know what we're seeing, 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: how we're feeling things out, and so you know, we 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: all we all adjust. We all have to understand how 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to attack us, and you know, adjust to that. 56 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: So I think it's like a collective communication, a positive 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: communication that everybody has like a hand in it and 58 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: listens to each other. And I imagine that's something that 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: happens throughout the game, just on the sideline when the 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: offense is on the field. All right, talk a little 61 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: bit about you know, you talk about wink and the 62 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: adjustments of putting you in a good position. One thing 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: he's been clear about when I interviewed him rather in 64 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the year is that we're moving Dexter around too. People 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: might not notice it, but he's not just right over 66 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: the center and the zero technique all the time. We're 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: moving him around. How has his ability to move around 68 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: and the way he's moving around you think helped you 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: be a little bit more productive this year. Um, I'll 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: say it just caused a misbalance between the old line, 71 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, to think that, like you said, be over 72 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: the center all game, and you know we move around 73 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, we showed different people come in 74 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: different ways, but we're still doing the same thing. Um, 75 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: so that's kind of that kind of helped us as 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: a whole. And uh, you know it's it's just not 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: me as landerd Um as Jelly is is hottie, you 78 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: know coming there. So it's like a whole collective group 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: of people moving around showing different things show on different fronts, 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: and you know it gets confused into old line. Can 81 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: you sense that when you watch the old line of 82 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: the opponents try to block you guys that there is 83 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: some confusion where they're not exactly sure who's coming from 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: were on any given play. Oh yeah, I mean yeah, 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: because it's I mean, he pressures a lot and we 86 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of simulated so it's kind of kind 87 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: of guessing in the sense like what's going on. A 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: lot of people have said they think you're having a 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: breakout year, right, especially in terms of your of your 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: pass rush. I always like that as players. That's because 91 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: I asked Andrew Thomas this last week if he's having 92 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: a breakout here. He goes, I thought last year was 93 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: my breakout year. So I'm curious when you watch yourself 94 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: and you've kind of taken in what you've done the 95 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: first five games, do you think you're having a breakout here? Um? 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I can't say that. Uh, you know, I feel like 97 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I've always been kind of productive, Um, you know, in 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: rushing the pass or stopping the run. You know. Now 99 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: it's just you know, I'm getting I have a few more, 100 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: I have a few early sacks, you know what I mean. Uh, 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: it's still it's still early in the season and I'm 102 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: still you know, trying to craft my like craft, my technique, 103 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I want to say it's 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: a breakout year. You know, you know, things just you know, 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: sex are just coming to me now. You know, I'm 106 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of just finishing rushes. Um, you know, there was 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: a big the mine, you know, just winning at the 108 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: top and not slowing down and celebrating my feet. So 109 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say it's a breakout. It's 110 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: just more you know, things, things are just going my way. 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize what a thin line there 112 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: is between a pressure and a sack, right, and sometimes 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: the things you don't even have control over, right, Yeah, 114 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: I know exactly. Everything has to work together. So I 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: give a lot of props to the guys back there, 116 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, holding up there guys and um, you know, 117 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: giving me time to get to get the sack. Teams 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: like that. Uh So I just say it's a collective group. 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: It's a collect team to get a sack. It's a lot. 120 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Every time we talk in the offseason, you talk about 121 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: how I want to go on to work on my 122 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: pass rush moves, right, And you come back and you're 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: a little bit better than next year, And I agree, 124 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I think you have been productive as a guy that 125 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: pushes the pocket, gets pressure on on on the quarterback. 126 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Every year. What are some of the things that you 127 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: really think you have improved on that you have gotten 128 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: better at over the last few off seasons that you've 129 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: worked on that have allowed you to start becoming a 130 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: little bit more productive as your career has gone on. Ye, 131 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: just using my hands more, um, mastering my my position 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: type of thing. Um, understand that what I'm getting with 133 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: this look. Understanding how to manipulate shoulders and understanding how 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: to get the offensive liment off balance. Things like that 135 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: that kind of helps, you know, coming with power and 136 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: length and you know, things like that, you know, just 137 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: that you consciously have to do and because until it 138 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: becomes second nature. Now you're a bigger guy. Dex. Obviously 139 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you're playing like the Snaps the last few games. Do 140 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you like that? Have you started feeling at the end 141 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: of the game you're laughing? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, 142 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: you've been between eight and the Snaps last I believe 143 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: three games. If I'm not mistaken, Um, I don't feel 144 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: because we're winning. Uh So, you know, it's just you know, 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I wanted to come back and shape, 146 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, just you know, for things like this. You know, 147 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: I want to be on the field as much as 148 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I can, and um, so that was kind of a 149 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: big thing. You know, I accept every road I get. 150 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't complain. I just go go and work. Now, 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: you talked about the winning. You know you've been through 152 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: some rough starts two seasons. Here, what's the difference went 153 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: through five games, You're four and one instead of one 154 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: and four. What how is it different coming in every day, 155 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: going through the meetings and just preparing for the game 156 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: each week. I think it just brings more confidence, um, 157 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: in the in the in the office. Um, everybody just 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, locked in more. Everybody you know, wanted to 159 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: see how to improve, you know, because we you know 160 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: obviously other teams make play, so how to slow down 161 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: you're making too many plays type things, and you know, 162 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: how to start faster. Uh So I think it's just 163 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: we challenge ourselves each week to to get better in 164 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: little area so we could have to try to have 165 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: a complete game. You know. In one way this has 166 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: worked is that you guys have had a bunch of 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: injuries right on both sides, and you know last week 168 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: you saw Nick McCleod, we saw justin lean guys that 169 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: weren't even on the roster when you made the first 170 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: fifty three, they got brought up. They come off the 171 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: practice squad. Marcus Johnson led your team in wide receiver 172 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: snaps last week. He came off the practice squad. Right, 173 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: How does this coaching staff and and the players who 174 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: have to get coached up obvious A keep everyone ready 175 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: so if they need to step in, if somebody goes 176 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: down like Leo for example, someone else can step in 177 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: and they can perform and execute the task that's asked 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: of them. It was a collective effort and like like 179 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: like we all said and before um, you know, we 180 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: want to play for each other. It's like a family here, 181 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: and that's the biggest thing we're trying to build. You know, 182 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: guy's being unselfish, Guys understanding what we have to do 183 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 1: to help each other win. You know, that's the little 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: things that's being keyed in on. And you know, it's 185 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: just propaps to the coaching staff having everybody ready to go, 186 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: the players having each other's players like their room ready 187 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: to go, and it's kind of just a collective whole, 188 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: uh as in an organization. Well, it's been fun to 189 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: watch dex let's talk about the Ravens this week, Lamar Jackson. Uh, 190 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: different type of dude, right, So what do you guys 191 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: have to do well and differently on defense to contain 192 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: a guy that can beat you with his arm and 193 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: his legs. Right, Like you said, he's very dydamnic. He 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: can do a threat to the fullest running pat So honestly, 195 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: it's just you know, kind of like every week almost 196 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: stopping the run. Uh. We gotta get it, you know, 197 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: we gotta collapse the pocket on him. We gotta stay 198 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: discipline in our in our run gaps um, disciplined in 199 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: our in our Russian lane type thing. So all of 200 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: us is a collective hole. Um. You know, the line 201 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: up front, we take it as a challenge, um to 202 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: keep him boughted up as much as we can. We 203 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: know it's not gonna be as pretty as we wanted 204 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: to be, but the goal is to keep them bottled up, 205 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, UM, put guys at his feet, make them 206 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: run backwards instead of soute ways and forward type of thing. 207 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just it's gonna be a good 208 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: task for us, and I think we're gonna be ready. Yeah, 209 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: that's him in the passing game. But he's also a 210 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: part of the design run game. Right, They're gonna do 211 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: some read options and the move that's worked for them 212 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: a lot is fake to sweep and then he goes 213 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: right up the gut and then he's upfield and he 214 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: goes So what do you as the guy in the 215 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: middle have to worry about when you're reading that running 216 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: back at him in terms of who even though he's 217 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball, I say, it's just been supplined 218 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: to the blocks you get. Um, Like I said, like, 219 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: we all gotta be in our in our in our 220 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: run gap. Um understanding that you know that's they want 221 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: everybody go flying to run the ball right up the middle. 222 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: So as a collective, we've just been disciplined on playing 223 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: the block that we get and then fighting the ball later. 224 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: Watching the table looks like j. K. Dobbins is like 225 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: getting ready to have that breakout game coming back when 226 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: you watch him and they're other running backs. Canyan Drake 227 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: on Date, what do you say, uh, dynamic guys Like 228 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: you said, they all they all run hard. Um. You 229 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: know it's like it's like every week just you know, 230 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Leven got us to the ball. You know, trying to 231 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: get the ball up off him, you know, make him 232 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: stop his feet at the line of scrimmage. And it 233 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: started to let let everybody come and get him. Um. 234 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: You know the guys that can break for a good 235 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: size running um. But at the same time, you just 236 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: gotta be disciplined our gaps because he can pull the 237 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: ball anytime he wants. How big will it be if 238 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: he got Leo back this week? A huge? Um? He 239 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: he holds it down. Um in the middle along with me. Um, 240 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: you know that's my brother. I know he's been hurting 241 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: a little bit, so I'm sure he's gonna be excited 242 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to come back when he does. And um, it's gonna 243 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: be a good thing. You know, get a lot of guys, 244 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, started to get the defense complete two fun 245 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: things before you say goodbye. What's been the feedback on 246 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: the sack dance? Mostly positive? Oh, definitely positive. Uh. You 247 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: know you don't see you too many big guys moving 248 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: like that, so it's been positive. Yeah. And the good 249 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: thing to your teammates gave you some space, right because 250 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times you start to dance and getting 251 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: the shot, you can't really do what you want to do. 252 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: But they gave you some space there, right, Yeah, I 253 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: don't think they won't be dancing on him. It's a great, 254 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: great point number two. Um, I'm not trying to people 255 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: outside the organization know that you're a big dog guy, right, 256 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: you have a lot of dogs at home. Tell the 257 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: folks about all your beautiful dogs. Oh man, So we 258 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: got Maya, core Reese, Atlas and Caesar, um, five of them. 259 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, they run they run us up to uh 260 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: but then good does and we're slept in the room 261 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: last night with us. So it was cool bulldogs, right, 262 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: American bullies. Yeah, excel so yeah, it's it's going well. 263 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Uh no, my babies, good stuff, dext best luck this 264 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: week against Baltimore. Thank the Giants official connected TV streaming app, 265 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: Giants TV brings original video content and game highlights on 266 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: demand and direct the big Blue fans. Giants TV is 267 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: free on Apple TV, Roku, and Amazon Fire TV, plus 268 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the Giants mobile app. That was Giants defensive lineman Dexter 269 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence fun chat with him. Now, let's turn our attention 270 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens and the opponent this week. Quadry Ishmael, 271 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: former Ravens wide receiver Vikings wide receiver, among other things. 272 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Brother to Rocket are very Young, Paula, Tino and let's 273 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Meadow broke down everything Baltimore Ravens with him. After a 274 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: trip across the pond, the Giants returned home to host 275 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: the first place Baltimore Ravens out of the a f 276 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: C North. To get more into the Giants opponent, this week, 277 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: we are joined by a man who played ten seasons 278 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL as a wide receiver Baltimore with the 279 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl following the two thousand campaign. He now serves 280 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: as a Ravens pre and postgame analyst for w jay 281 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Z CBS in Baltimore. None other than the Missile Cadre 282 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: is my own dadre got Lance Meadow and pulled the 283 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: Tino here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate the time 284 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: Hope poll as well. How's everything on your end, Lance, Paul? 285 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: Things are well. Football season is knee deep underway. All 286 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: the the subplots and stories and and and the games themselves. 287 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: It's making for a fun year, it is, indeed, And 288 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: speaking of the subplots, that is a beautiful transition to 289 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: where I want to start this conversation off Cadre because 290 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: the biggest subplot of all is gonna come to the 291 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: forefront this week Wink Martindale going against his former team. 292 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: And then clearly there's a lot of people in Baltimore 293 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: that are very familiar with what Wink loves to do 294 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. So everybody's trying 295 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: to make sense of strategy wise. Who has the advantage? 296 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Is it Wink? Is it everybody on the raven side? 297 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: How do you see the game of chess that will 298 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: ensue this weekend between the Ravens and the Giants From 299 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: that standpoint, yeah, I'll throw another little chess piece in 300 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: there and and talk about the night that is the 301 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator Mike McDonald, who was a disciple of 302 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale, who went to UM Jim Harbaugh and he 303 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: was his defensive coordinator up in Michigan before John Harball 304 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: scooped him back up when uh they parted ways with Wink. 305 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: And now McDonald has pretty much a lot of the 306 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: same calls and the defense is is it's it's very identical. Now. 307 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: What makes it different is the fact that you've got 308 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: two different personalities and Wink obviously and how he likes 309 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: to call it a game plan compared to what Mike 310 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: McDonald likes and prefers as far as his game planning. 311 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I think it'll be interesting, you know, 312 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, because you know you're gonna you're 313 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna know winks kind of tendencies and personality, but he 314 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: can throw a wrinkle in there. I think for the 315 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: defense it's, you know, trying to maintain their poise because 316 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I think for day Ball, I don't think he really cares. 317 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he's gonna do with his offense, 318 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna try to stop him. Andrea, 319 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: it seems to me that no matter how much you 320 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: plan for Lamar, the problem is the off schedule plays 321 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: where he can go seventy five yards in the blink 322 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: of an eye and run for a touchdown out of 323 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: a broken play. So you could game plan all you 324 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: want and and play disciplined and follow everything that you've 325 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: been told, and he still can wind up burning you 326 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: for a touchdown, like I say, in a moment's notice. 327 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: So when when you look at at what he's done 328 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: over the last few years since he's been in the league, 329 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: what defenses have had the most success against him, And 330 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: what is it that they did? You know? I think, um, 331 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, going back, uh, from the start of his 332 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: career up until present day. You know, when you see 333 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Lamar up closing personally for the first time, it kind 334 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: of shocks you because you you're right, you're not used 335 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: to a quarterback being that explosive, that unique um. But 336 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: then at the same time, you know he can, he 337 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: can sling it and he does such a phenomenal job 338 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: of extending the play. I think his his growth and 339 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: his game has gotten to the point where you know, 340 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: he's not looking just to primarily run. He's looking to 341 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: extend plays, to get the ball down and push the 342 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: ball down the field to his guys. But you did say, 343 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: you know what, what was it that defenses did? You know? 344 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: We've we've seen defenses do a lot. And one of 345 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: the ways I say, um, the Miami Dolphins last year, 346 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: they decided, Okay, we're gonna line everybody up on a 347 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: line will will momentarily confuse your your line as far 348 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: as you know, five man, six man pressure, We're gonna 349 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: man up guys across the line and just rain pressure. 350 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: But also that man and man speeds the clock up 351 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: of the receivers. Let's see how you guys can handle 352 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the poise. They didn't, and Miami got the best of them. 353 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I think at the same time, you look at games, 354 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: say the Tennessee Titans, where they would bring in an 355 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: extra defender and play that big nickel if you will, 356 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: and kind of almost spy Lamar um. So you would 357 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: have assignment football, but you're also having that spy on 358 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Lamar and and and again it would lend itself to 359 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, the off schedule. Throws is one thing, but 360 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: what has made this offense so well is that first down. 361 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm a sudden it's second and two. Well, I 362 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: think those teams that were able to get them in 363 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: second and thirteen, they wind up having a better chance 364 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: of success because now it's third and eight, because they 365 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: even did a better job of of you know, stopping 366 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: that run that has been so dominant. And then when 367 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: you try to throw the ball, it you know causes 368 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: uh some some advantages to the defense, if you will. 369 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's what has helped teams um. But 370 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I will say, yes, Lamar is a great job of Okay, 371 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: you are gonna do that well in the game of chess, 372 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: you also have to have your counter moves. I think 373 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: we've seen them employ those those counter moves um a 374 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: lot this year. Like I said in reference to the 375 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Miami game, where last year the zero coverage, zero blitz 376 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: schemes worked, this year they did not. As far as 377 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: offensively for Lamar Kadre. You brought up the rushing attack, 378 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: and Lamar leads all quarterbacks in rushing yards as well 379 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: as average yardage per carry. Not that that's a surprise, 380 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: but when you think about these Baltimore teams in years past, 381 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: it's not only Lamar that you have to worry about. 382 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: It's a plethora of running backs that hasn't necessarily been 383 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: the case this year. Gus Edwards still sideline. J K. 384 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: Dobbins just came back and c literally they've had some 385 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: movable parts that left tackle with Ronnie Stanley now working 386 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: his way back from a torn a c L. So 387 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: how would you best assess the dynamics outside of Lamar 388 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: when it's come to the Baltimore rushing attack thus far, Yeah, 389 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: it's been a work in progress. Um work in progress, 390 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: because like you said, those injuries I think that's what 391 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: really just set back this team last year. Um, Greg 392 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: Roman loves running into football. Everyone knows it. Um here 393 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. He's kind of a lightning rod. People who 394 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: love him or hate him. There's no real in between. 395 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: He could have a great game and people are going 396 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: to be complaining, Um, oh it's all Lamar and no 397 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: one else and it could you know whatever. So that 398 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: being said, I think the running backs and they've done 399 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: a great job of running back by committee because of 400 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: the injuries. I think it it went from being such 401 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: a dominant known factor to an unknown factor now this year. 402 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: It is slow treading, but I think it's trending upward 403 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to j. K. Dobbins, who is back 404 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: and really has shown himself and you could see why 405 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: he's so special because guys who you know, in their prime, 406 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: they were looking really good. But you know when they 407 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: came here to baal to Ware to kind of fill 408 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: in the cracks because of the injuries, they just weren't 409 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: the same backs. Now for what we've seen with j 410 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: K uh there's just a different sense on the film 411 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: makes guys miss. He has that sudden burst up the field, 412 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: could break tackles. Um that that's what he brings to 413 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: the table Justice Hill. He was in there, he performed 414 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: well UM against the New England Patriots. He did UM 415 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: a pretty strong job, uh even against the Buffalo Bills. 416 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: But at last he had a hamstring injury. He was out. 417 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: So you know incomes Kenyan Drake again, who was inactive 418 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: for UM once once JK got back in there. But 419 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: all that being said, I think the fact that Ronnie 420 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Stanley is back, I think uh it brings life again. 421 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: The likes that it reminds me of when there were 422 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen when I turned the offense bullyball, when 423 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: they were just rushing up and down a football field 424 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: on teams and and just man handling teams, really bullying 425 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: them by running the ball. UM. I think we saw 426 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: some some of that against uh their division opponent in 427 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati Bengals. How much of an issue is 428 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: it for their passing game. I know that Bateman's got 429 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: the foot injury, and it's kind of sketchy as we 430 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: speak as to whether or not who play against the Giants. 431 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: Duvern has got great speed, but not as accomplished as 432 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: a receiver as he is as a return guy. And 433 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: then you've got more game Andrews, who just does so 434 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: many amazing things out of the tight end spot. But 435 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: nonetheless that does seem to limit their passing game. If 436 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: Bateman cannot play, how much of an impediment do you 437 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: think that is? Well, again, I guess I gotta refer 438 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: back to the Bengals game because he you know, he 439 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: didn't play, and Devin Duverney more than stepped up and 440 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: answered the call. Uh, they used him quite a bit 441 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. He he was, you know, 442 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: the East Coast version of of Deebo Samuel's UM and 443 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: and and and again. I look at, you know, some 444 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: of the catches that he's made, some of the contested 445 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: catches that he's made that you know, some people here 446 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: in Baltimore comparing him to Um, the one free agent 447 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: great in an Kuom Bolden, who was an integral part 448 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: of the two thousand twelve Super Bowl championship team. UM. 449 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: But he he is, as advertised, real fierce competitor. Um 450 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: can run routes and and really do a fine job 451 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: or run after catch, but also just giving him the 452 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: ball on a jet sweep or what the heck? They 453 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: line up in the backfield and they just gave him. 454 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: They just pitched the ball to him and let him 455 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: go on a on a traditional tell back sweep with 456 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: ironically enough, Mike Davis, who is the running back who 457 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: was the actual quote unquote full act on that particular play. 458 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: So I just think that, you know, they find creative 459 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: ways of getting their guys the ball. Short Bateman is 460 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: going to be missed, no question about it. I know 461 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: Robinson has done an admirable job of filling in and 462 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: and and being uh, you know, somewhat of a veteran presidence, 463 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: but uh, everything runs through Mark Andrews. And I think 464 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: for Mark Andrews what he's done one on one, double team, whatever, 465 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: when it counts, he shows up for Lamar Jackson and 466 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: the discussion we're talking with. Cadrey is my old former 467 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver, helped win a Super Bowl with the Ravens. 468 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: You can see him on w jay Z CBS in 469 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: Baltimore pre and postgame analysts for the Ravens. It's interesting, Cadre. 470 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: You look at the numbers. The Giants have been a 471 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: second half team. They've scored seventy of their hundred three 472 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: total points in the second half. The Ravens have been 473 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: the complete opposite. They've given up a boatload of points 474 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: in the second half, seventy four to the exact fourth 475 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: mosting you look at their two losses to Buffalo as 476 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: well as to the Dolphins. They jumped out to these 477 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: early leads and then all of a sudden, in a bang, 478 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: they saw it dissipate, and all of a sudden the 479 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: opponent rallied. I'm curious, is that more of a reflection 480 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: of the offense in your mind, taking its foot off 481 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: the gas, or just defensive breakdowns piling up. You know, 482 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of both, but it would 483 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: be more slanted towards the defense. The fact that the offense, 484 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, jumped out to such a huge lead and 485 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: and and had the momentum. Uh. Sure, they gotta finish games, 486 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: but I think defensively, anyone will tell you here in Baltimore, 487 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: you've built your team's uh you know, mindset or character 488 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: or brand on on defense and and play like a raven. 489 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's smashed mouth defense. We're you're you're 490 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: gonna know that you played against the Ravens. You're gonna know, 491 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: you know that pursuit to the ball is vicious. Um. 492 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: That being said, yeah, Josh Allen had his way to 493 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: a tongue of Valoa, had his way both of them 494 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: in the second half. And I think, you know, a 495 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: lot of it, you know, is with the secondary the 496 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: the lack of communication um at times really cost them. 497 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: I think what some Giants fans might not really want 498 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: to hear, but the return of JPP to the Ravens 499 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: this time as opposed to being in Tampa. But he's 500 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: really you know, sparked some some much needed life into 501 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: the defense. And and as the cliche goes, you know, 502 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: there's nothing like a good past defense like pressure on 503 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback and it starts up front. So the fact 504 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: that he was able to get after Joe Burrow, both 505 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: him and a Dafe oh way, I think that really 506 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: helped out nullify the big play uh, and they finished 507 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: the game. They put the game away becaus Peters had 508 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: a phenomenal um finishing game as well. So all of it, 509 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, you you you gotta look at the total picture, 510 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: and the total picture is, yeah, they they have to 511 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: own the fact that they gave up large leads and 512 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: couldn't finish. Thankfully, they're on the right side of it 513 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bengals. But now you gotta go back 514 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: on the road, and as you said, you've got to 515 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: face a team that's really good in the second half. 516 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: You let me ask you about two veterans who have 517 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: had really terrific careers, But I don't know how much 518 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: juice is left in the Orange Justin Houston, who's nursing 519 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: that groin, and Calais Campbell. And then I guess, as 520 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: a as a flip side to that question, what about 521 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: a young guy like Patrick Queen, who, if he continues 522 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: to ascend, could truly become an impact player, not just 523 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: a good player who has led the league, not the league, 524 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: but the team apples for two years, but could really 525 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: dominate a game if he's got it going right. So 526 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: I think when you see how John has brought in 527 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: free agents, him and Erica Costa, the general manager for 528 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: the Ravens, um it is the Justin Houston's of the 529 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: world that they love to bring in and get, you know, 530 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: guys who are inexperienced through his draft to to pare 531 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: them up and and and give them some understanding on 532 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: how to be a pro um. And Justin Houston is 533 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: that guy I think he's really been instrumental in helping 534 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: out a da fae o way. But uh, Patrick Queen, 535 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: I think is really blossoming into his own. You know, 536 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: he is is really hard on himself in a in 537 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: a good way in that you know, he recognizes the 538 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: legacy of you know, Ray Lewis and and what it 539 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: means to be a linebacker here in Baltimore, and um, 540 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: the way in which you got to play, the toughness, 541 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: the hard knows, you know, speed to the to the 542 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: football maker, presence felt, and when it's time to make 543 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: a big play, make a big play. Uh. He had 544 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity to make a big play, a game ceiling play, 545 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: if you will, or at least momentum changing play against 546 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Josh Allen threw right to him. He dropped it. 547 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Comes back that week of practice, works incredibly hard and 548 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: sure enough, you know, uh, chance favors are prepared and 549 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: sure enough he uh he gets an interception because he 550 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: was working on his craft and realizing that he missed 551 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity to help his team win. So, UM, I 552 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: don't know. I think for justin Houston, he is nursing 553 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: that growing the bigger picture is let's get him to 554 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: where you need them, which is you know, December and January. 555 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I think for Calais Campbell, he's feeling really good and 556 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of having that founder youth, and I think John 557 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Harbor and company they do a great job of giving 558 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, veterans that that tin plus year guy, you know, 559 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot of rest to recover so they can go 560 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: out there and perform on Sundays. Cadrea's interesting when you 561 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: look at the dynamics of this Ravens defense. They're giving 562 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: up the most passing yards per game, so everyone's throwing 563 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: against them. But on the flip side, they're extremely opportun 564 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: junistic because they have the most takeaways at eleven and 565 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: the most interceptions at eight. So how much has the 566 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: ability to take the football away in your estimation, done 567 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: some damage control to some of the struggles they've had 568 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: in limiting the past. Yeah. So, and it's weird too 569 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: because I know Martlin Humphrey, their star cornerback. You know, 570 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: he hadn't mentioned it. It's like, you know, it's weird. 571 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: We got these guys that you know are are are legit. 572 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, their their stamped, they're verified that you know 573 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: these dudes, we could play and it's not showing up 574 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: in in the stats, and we're just giving up big plays. 575 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, the communication, it goes back 576 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: to the communication. Uh, Marcus Williams is going to be 577 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: sorely missed. He's been put on I r UM, so 578 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss the next four weeks with a dissocated risk. 579 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: But that dude has been you know, a ball hawk 580 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: reminiscent of ever Reid um and and and and that's 581 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: something that you know, you you were really counting on. 582 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: But now you're gonna have uh, you know Stone, You're 583 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna have uh, Chuck Clark, and you're gonna have Kyle 584 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: Hamilton's the team's first round draft choice in there. And 585 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: I think for all of them, it's like, hey, man, 586 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: make sure everybody knows you know what each other is 587 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: doing and and and be responsible for one another and 588 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: and help one another. I think that's gonna be, you know, 589 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: the elphant in the room. You know, when when they've 590 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: they've been on point, man, they look great. That's one 591 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: of the decisive things that I saw with the New 592 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: England game. They were on point as far as their 593 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: technique and everything and creating turnovers. But when they were 594 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: off all of a sudden, you know, was DeVante Park 595 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: I believe is with the Patriots, and they made that 596 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: dude look like he was, you know, the former first 597 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: round stud and he just he got like second second life. 598 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: I was like, my goodness, you know, uh, Nelson Aguilar. 599 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: It looked like you know, he could he could indeed legit, 600 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: uh you know, catch babies from a burning building. So 601 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: I just I just I was like, wow, that that 602 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: makes sense, the up and down this But when they 603 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: lock in, you know what they did against an extremely 604 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: talented group of receivers and tight ends against the Cincinnati Bengals, 605 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: they held up and I think, um, you know they 606 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: need to to sustain that and carry that into this 607 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: game against the Giants. One of the things that that 608 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: Lands always likes to preach around our programs to our listeners, 609 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: quarter is about finishing off drives. You know, you can't 610 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: settle for those threes, You've got to get sevens. And 611 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens this year they're in the bottom six of 612 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: the league in terms of red zone defense. Now you 613 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: can talk all all about the secondary and and their issues, 614 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: but you know, when the field gets short there. It's 615 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily about the secondary. What do you think the 616 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: biggest problem is for them in terms of stopping people 617 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: out of keeping them out of the end zone. Yeah, 618 00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: is the lack of disrupting, um, what the offense is doing. 619 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I think you know, coordinators are recognizing you know, you 620 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: you you the counteraction to what the Ravens do is 621 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: giving him a misdirection. The counteraction is causing this team 622 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: to not be aggressive, and that pause causes confusion, whether 623 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: it be motioning, whether it be you know, tackles pulling, 624 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: and yet you're you're going to the tackle side and 625 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: you're blocking down on a wham block or whatever it 626 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: might be. UM, and and and and then it's just 627 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: poor you know, poor assignment. You know you're you're there. 628 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: You gotta make the play, you gotta finish. You know, 629 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: you could point to a slew of things that has 630 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: caused them issues in the red zone. When you look 631 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: at the dynamics of the Baltimore Ravens cadre we always 632 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: clearly look at special teams is a huge strength with 633 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: what Justin Tucker brings to the table. And there's no 634 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: point of asking you, we know he's automatic and nothing 635 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: has changed this season based on the game winner against 636 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals. But what has changed, which sometimes can be overlooked, 637 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: is he's got a new holder because Jordan's stouts a 638 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: rookie punter. What have you seen out of how those 639 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: two are working together and why perhaps it has been 640 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: a relatively smoot transition when sometimes that can throw a 641 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: new wrinkling to things. Honestly, Lance, that question has so 642 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: much depth to it. Um. You know, people would would 643 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: would just like what what? It doesn't matter. We're talking 644 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: about the potter and the holder. Well we're talking about 645 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: the greatest kicker of all time too, and we're talking 646 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: about a kicker who realizes upon his snapper, his holder 647 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: and obviously him finishing it. Um. They will call themselves 648 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: a wolf pack. And it was Morgan, Sam Cook and 649 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: obviously Justin Tucker. Free agency happens, injuries happens, salary cap happens. 650 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, Uh Sam was the last of the two 651 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: to go, and now they got a new snapper, they 652 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: got a new holder and Jordan's Stout, But Justin Tucker 653 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: is still doing his thing. However, I will say Sam 654 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: uh Cook is on the staff. So because he's on 655 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: the staff. He I think it's really given. Uh Jordan's 656 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: some really cool insight on what Justin likes, how to 657 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: hold the ball, what's the routine and so you know, 658 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: they don't want to call it a new anything nickname yet, 659 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: but I guess if you just real quickly want to 660 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: say wolf Pack two point oh, it's there. Um. Obviously, 661 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: you know Jordan has his responsibilities with with punnying the 662 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: ball too, But I am saying that is one of 663 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: the most uh just just clutch performances I've seen out 664 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: of out of the rookie class. And you can probably 665 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: look across the NFL of what what Jordan's stout has done. Hugh, 666 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you to help me out here, because 667 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Geon Ward is having a really terrific start with the Giants. 668 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: They call him alive why or you know that he's 669 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: been a great locker room guy. He's been very, very 670 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: good at the point of attack and holding the edge 671 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: against the run game. He's versatile, seems to be a 672 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: very football smart and a student individual. He's been on 673 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: five teams in seven years, including the Baltimore Ravens. The 674 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: Giants are thrilled to have what am I missing here 675 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: that these other teams allowed this guy to bounce around 676 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and get away. So I think part of it is 677 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: that he identifies really well with what Wink wants him 678 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: to do. And sometimes you need support, um and in 679 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: a way of encouragement of saying, look, I believe in you. 680 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: This system is built for you. You're seeing that on 681 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: the office side of Ball with Daniel Jones. Obviously Dave 682 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: Ball has come in there and and you know, once 683 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: left for it, and people are looking at him as 684 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: a coach killer. Now they're looking at him and like, 685 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, the revision of Phil Simms. We're like, okay, 686 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: we're not going to go that far. But that being said, though, 687 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: he is off to a high start because of just that, 688 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: that that chemistry, and I think, you know, johnni War, 689 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: he just has that chemistry. Within weeks offensive system or 690 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: i'm sorry, defensive system, and he's thriving, and you know, 691 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: and that's good for him. I'm i'm I'm I'm happy 692 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: for him. I think, you know, Raven fans like, dang it, 693 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: you could have done more, but you know, you have 694 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: to do what's best for you. And and obviously you 695 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: know he's uh in good hands and winks defense Kadri 696 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: before we let you go. In terms of pass rushers 697 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: that we're talking about and injury report as we're talking 698 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: to you right now, still very much up in the air. 699 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: But two guys that started practicing the other day for 700 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: the Ravens, interestingly David A. Jabo as well as tie 701 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: As Bowser. Doesn't look like Ojabo is gonna play, But 702 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: John Harbord didn't necessarily close the door on Bowser, who 703 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: had been on pop and he led the team in 704 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: sacks last season. In the event they can get him back, 705 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: especially with the way you were talking about JPP has 706 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: been playing. What do you think that does? So the 707 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: guy's up front, ma'am, I'm telling you right now that 708 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: would be so awesome. Um, he's worked his butt off 709 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: to get back in play with the Achilles and really 710 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: credit you know Tie us for for his uh his 711 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: just his mental fortitude. Now the rotation amplifies and that's 712 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: something that you know, I think, uh, you talk about 713 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: finishing in the fourth quarter. You know you you've got 714 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: guys who who can give each other a break, who lands. 715 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that that's where the secret sauce is at. 716 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: You know in that fourth quarter. Uh, as far as 717 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: finishing off games and and I think Tias can can 718 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: be that that added depth of talent. Uh. Is it 719 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: one thing to app depth? I mean everybody can, you know, 720 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: pick up a free agent, but is whether or not 721 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: that guy can can be an impact player. We clearly 722 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: see it with app being an impact player. Uh. You 723 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: bringing entire us back from from injury. Uh. I just 724 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: think it just adds to what the Ravens are trying 725 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: to do. Could certainly add another layer to this Giants 726 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: Ravens matchup coming your way on Sunday. Is Godrey is 727 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: my l former NFL wide receiver, helped the Ravens with 728 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, found the two thousand campaign and he 729 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: could see him on w jay Z CBS in Baltimore 730 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: where he serves as a Ravens analyst on their pre 731 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: and post game shows. Cadre always a blast, catch it 732 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: up with you. Greatly appreciate the time of the inside 733 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: and we look forward to Sunday's matchup. Thanks for coming on. 734 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Just a 735 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: reminder everybody. The Giant Suttle Podcast is part of the 736 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: Giants Podcast now workings on the Giants mobile app, podcast 737 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: platforms everywhere at the Giants dot Com slash podcast. But 738 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: the Jihnts Tuttle is not our only podcast. We all 739 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: saw a Big Blue Kickoff Live. It's live on Giants 740 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: dot Com in the app every weekday from twelve thirty 741 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: to one thirty. Then it's archived on the Big Blue 742 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live podcast feed and the app of course. And 743 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: we're also doing a Draft Season every three or four 744 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: weeks or so. Uh. That's our NFL Draft podcast. It 745 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: focuses on college football in general, not on the Giants. 746 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: So if you want to kind of get ahead a 747 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: little bit about what type of players and what strong 748 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: position is going to be in the draft this year, 749 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: go check out the Draft Season podcast myself, Tony Pauline, 750 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: Eric Crocker. You can find it on his own podcast 751 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: feed just search for Draft Season. All right, everybody, let's 752 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: get now to our final interview. Every week, the head 753 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: coach of the n y G Brian Dable sits down 754 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: with the voice of the Giants, Papa Were joined is 755 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 1: always by the head coach of the New York Football Giants, 756 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: coach Bryant Table. Coach Um has the team responded to 757 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: the long travel back from London and kind of the 758 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: work that you've gotten in this week. Yeah, we've had 759 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: a good week. I think the guys came back. We 760 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: gave him a couple of days to kind of rejuvenate 761 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, they got on the film of 762 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: Baltimore and then we started practice on Wednesday. They have 763 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: a good mindset and we're you know, we're getting ready 764 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: to roll. All right, let's talk a little bit about 765 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: this Ravens team. Uh, they can score. They're averaging twenty 766 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: seven points per game. Hey, look, they've only had twenty 767 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: six snaps this season when they were actually trailing in 768 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: a game. Um, so they put points on the board. 769 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: And I guess it all kind of starts with the quarterback, 770 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, Well, first of all, it's a great organization. 771 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: It's a winning organization that has been established, you know, 772 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: quite a few years back with coach Hardball and even 773 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 1: before that. Um And they play with a certain style 774 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: and it's been impressive to have the run that they've 775 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: had in terms of you know, winning seasons and playoffs. 776 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: And obviously Lamar Jackson on the offensive side of the 777 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: ball really makes everything go. He's a he's a dynamic 778 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: player with his arm, he's a dynamic player with his legs, 779 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: and he's a winner. So we're gonna have our work 780 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: cutout for us. Uh you know with Lamar, but with 781 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: all the other guys too. On offense, Yeah, and uh 782 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: you know they're they're tight end. Uh Andrews has been spectacular. 783 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: He leads all NFL tight ends and receiving yards and 784 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: if you go back to last season and including the 785 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: first five games of this year, he's got the most 786 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: receiving yards of any tight end and the sport. What 787 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: makes him so effective within their scheme, Well, one, he's 788 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: just a good player. He's got very good instincts, good 789 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: feel in the passing game. Um, he understands how to 790 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: run routes, he understands leverage, he has good hands, he 791 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: plays physical when he has a ball in his hand. Um, 792 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: he's he's a go to guy for him in critical situations. 793 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: And we're gonna have to be on top of our 794 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: game with him. And then you know the multiples that 795 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: they use at the running back they got you know, 796 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: uh J K. Dobbins who was on i R all 797 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: of last season. So he's kind of working his way 798 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: back in. But they have a nice complement of rotation 799 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: guys in the backfield, don't they. They really do. And 800 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: I think their front does a great job. I think 801 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: coach Roman does a does an unbelievable job of scheming. 802 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a why variety of runs are creative. UM, 803 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: they're very sound, and it's it's difficult to practice throughout 804 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: the week because of the amount of things that they 805 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: give you, whether it's motions, the personnel groups, UM, they 806 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: bring guys back to create extra gaps, UH, the motion 807 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: a bunch, So it's a it's a challenging scheme. And 808 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: then you know, with those runners and their front guys, UM, 809 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: and the addition of the quarterback that that you've got 810 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: to account for, it's a very challenging scheme. Coach you 811 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: go to the other side of the ball, it's it's 812 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: been a little bit unraven like when you look at 813 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: some of the numbers and the statistics. UH. Baltimore has 814 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: always been known to have a tremendous defense, and we're 815 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: only five weeks into the season, but one thing they 816 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: are very proficient at is taking the football the way 817 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: there plus five and they've got eight interceptions, which is 818 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: number one in the National Football League. Yeah, this is 819 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: this is a Ravens defense. I mean some of that 820 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: game against Miami at the end of the game there, 821 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: they gave up some big ones. You know, numbers are 822 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: you can look at numbers anyway you want to look 823 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: at them. They got very good football players. Like you said, 824 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: they haven't really trailed very much this season in terms 825 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: of plays. So uh, an opportunistic defense with a lot 826 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: of good football players. You know, whether it's Humphries, whether 827 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: it's Peters, those guys are instinctive corners that that really 828 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 1: have great awareness and you know, jump plays, make plays 829 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: on the ball, and you know they lead the league 830 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: and turnovers. Patrick Queen had a big interception last week 831 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: and the win against Cincinnati. You know, he's a playmaker 832 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: in that front seven. And then they got some they 833 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: got some veteran hands there. I mean, you know Klais 834 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: Campbell and his fifteenth year has been a guy that 835 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, his wreck games over the years. And they 836 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: added Jason Pierre Paul to us in like a sub package. 837 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: And you know, they really got a lot of talented 838 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: guys and guys with a lot of experience. Yeah, very 839 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: very talented. They're they're big, Um again, instinctive, they know 840 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: how to play the game to be a tremendous challenge 841 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: for our offense. Coach Um, obviously so far this season, 842 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is a fourth home game already in 843 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: this early part of the season, you've won two of them. Um, 844 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: just kind of trying to build upon that momentum of 845 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: what has been established so far in MetLife Stadium. Yeah, 846 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to create 847 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: a home field advantage for ourselves and go out there 848 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: and play well. And the fan base has been fantastic. 849 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: It has been loud, it's been hard on the opponent offenses, 850 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: and you know, that's that's what we aim to do, 851 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 1: is is to go out there and try to play 852 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: well to to encourage you know, their support, Um, how 853 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: loud they are. It's just very thankful for the people 854 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: that come out to the game and cheer us on. 855 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: The coach. Final thing, Um, I want to ask you 856 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: about this because I know that the league. You know, 857 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: we've had a couple of roughing passer penalties that were 858 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: called and I know Perry Fuel, who's the head of officiating, 859 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: uh sent out you know video to everybody. Is that 860 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: something that you spend a lot of time on or 861 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, reminding your players of Hey, here's what the 862 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: rules are and here's what the guidelines are. You know, 863 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: make sure you keep your foe becus. Yeah, I think that. 864 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: You know, as a coaching staff, you watch any of 865 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: the videos that the NFL sends out. They send them 866 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: out for a reason to help us instruct our players. 867 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: And you know that's what we try to do in 868 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: terms of all the rules. We we don't make the rules. 869 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: We have to coach and play by them, and we 870 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: do our best to teach them and our players I 871 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: think understand them and um, you know that's that's how 872 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: we approach it. Coach, best of luck, looking forward to 873 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: the ball game. Thanks, but I appreciate you. We thank 874 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: Brian Dable for joining us as always. Thank you to Bob, 875 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: Thanks to the Missile Quadry, Ishmael, Lance Meadow, Paul Detino 876 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: and Giants defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence. Thanks for being with 877 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: us on the Giants Little Podcast. We'll see you next week. 878 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: Everybody