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Speaker 2: On Monday, September twenty seventh, two thousand and four, eighteen

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Speaker 2: year old Britney Phillips, a student at Tulsa Community College,

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Speaker 3: They had just taken.

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Speaker 2: A chemistry to test, and Brittany was looking forward to

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Speaker 4: I have to drag my memory now for such a

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Speaker 4: Are you upset? Are you having a problem?

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Speaker 2: the wrong trail all this time? I'm Catherine Townsend. Over

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Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Britney's mother, doctor Marjorie Zingman,

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Speaker 2: grew up in Tulsa, and after graduating from high school,

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Speaker 2: With Tulsa World, saying, quote, through information we received from

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