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Speaker 1: that's playing for something. They're not tanking like losers.

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Speaker 2: You know, look up how much they've lost from the

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Speaker 2: core of their championship team. For them to still say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're the second seedon a year later, it's like, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Adam just always doing stuff by half, like, oh, let's

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Speaker 3: It's like then the definition of man, they're not asks.

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Speaker 4: That's five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Let's be real. It's a pain in the ass if

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Speaker 3: you're over like fifty five.

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Speaker 5: Well I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, because it was a long time ago. Like hype,

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Speaker 4: Yeah it was, and it's not because it wasn't big markets.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't gonna be his hype.

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Speaker 1: The Spurs won so much, it's like you can't just say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they could never do it.

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Speaker 2: Seattle did it to Denver, Yeah, Golden State in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, bro.

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Speaker 4: Two older ones and y'all we had Mcdyce who was

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Speaker 4: Zebo was going crazy. This nigga was hitting everything and

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Speaker 5: He was just sucking.

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Speaker 4: To me that Matt he was throwing everybody on him.

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Speaker 4: Mono was coming off the dislocation and you know, he

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Speaker 4: was still trying to get his room back. He's like

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Speaker 3: But we just did you play at all?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I played. I played when it was over garbage like

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Speaker 4: eight seconds through me the game. I had a three,

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Speaker 3: Was my real really started playing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So then was the second round? Was it Memphis versus

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they played first Clippers? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Memphis versus. Don't even tell me. I

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Speaker 4: See, yes, yes, and Zebo still was killing but they

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Speaker 2: It was okay because I was watched that series. That

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Speaker 2: lost that game, like for sure, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: every year we got somebody PAIDO got paid.

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Speaker 4: After that, Marcasol was still like up and coming as

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Speaker 4: And then Mike Connley, he was. He was started at

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Speaker 4: four point playoff the screen. He was to shoot the three.

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Speaker 4: He started that with us in the playoffs, like he

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Speaker 1: First round, Dallas beat Portland, Memphis be seeing it. Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: Then okay, see played Memphis and then I remember that

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Speaker 1: The semis Okay se beat Memphis in seven games.

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Speaker 1: Damn the Lakers got swept by Dalladallas and then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dallas be okay, see that's when Dallas one of

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Speaker 3: Five games, we.

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Speaker 2: Were talking who had the heaviest ring, and it's like Dirk, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't remember those teams back well, back back then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the other one I said was maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dirk definitely had a heavy He had a.

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Speaker 5: Run that might that's probably the all time greatest run.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, but no pop so Serge had a cashtry.

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Speaker 4: We were the first two games at the crib. He

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Speaker 4: crazy they went. They were the next two games and pop.

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Speaker 5: Look that's what happened to change in the line.

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Speaker 4: We didn't say anything, he just did it.

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Speaker 5: I think that happened to us because we.

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Speaker 3: That was twenty twelve. He came back late. He came

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Speaker 3: This before you started shooting three.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what we started.

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Speaker 1: Back like game five or six versus us against y'all,

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Speaker 5: He was the difference.

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Speaker 4: You didn't game plan for it, Like he made a

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Speaker 4: what the hit this ship?

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Speaker 3: He wasn't shooting.

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Speaker 1: After that he became somebody that shot threes more. But

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Speaker 1: Bosh was like what the threes like?

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Speaker 3: It was nothing.

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Speaker 4: Nah yeah that okay series instant one, and then.

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Speaker 3: I remember James was killing in that series.

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Speaker 4: He came to the bench, he was sucking us up. Yo,

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Speaker 5: He won the game.

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Speaker 4: He won every game, bro off the bench, won every

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Speaker 5: He won game four, he won game.

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Speaker 1: In the league that year, and James player was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: And then James, you know, he plays bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I don't think he's the only person.

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Speaker 4: But it wasn't just him that played bad.

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Speaker 3: Rust was fine.

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Speaker 4: Rust had a coming out party because US actually played well.

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Speaker 4: But it took away one game. But did it took

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Speaker 4: then they also had motherfuckers like Septhlosha who was hitting

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck? The same shit happened when we

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Speaker 4: played It was a roverson like he played well against

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Speaker 4: became next to Fellosian, Like Yo, get three different iterations

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Speaker 4: of the same nigga, and every time we play him,

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Speaker 4: they want to come out and have a fucking party

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Speaker 4: and ship, like what the fuck is this funny?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Because we beat the Jazz in the first one.

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Speaker 5: They beat the Jazz in the first How many wins

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Speaker 5: did the Jazz? Half? Man?

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Speaker 3: It was the fucking there was the three seed, but.

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Speaker 5: Let me see how many they probably wont like at

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Speaker 2: Sixty's the three seed? Dog, how are you a three seed? No,

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Speaker 2: you can't tell me that ain't.

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Speaker 3: Is a five game series. So they won three and.

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Speaker 5: Then a second round they played Phoenix and seven. How

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Speaker 1: One?

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Speaker 3: Phoenix won fifty nine games.

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Speaker 5: Fifty that's a heavy, that's heavy. Yeah, finished first and

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Speaker 3: That's back when we used to give division winners.

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Speaker 1: The fucking highest seeds and so and then they beat

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Speaker 1: and now they be no, then they be san Antonio

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Speaker 1: how much they probably wont sixty something games to sixty

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Speaker 5: That's heavy, that's heady.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two wins nine when he won one hundred and

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Speaker 4: That's that's a lot of wins and and all of

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Speaker 4: Was they just stacking up wins against the East?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: They you know, Mike was Orlando and Mike when he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they What I'm saying, how do you have fourteen

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Speaker 5: Your mic was like sixty two, fifty nine and sixty two?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you have three teams with sixty like

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Speaker 1: They were given because Houston was a sixty the third

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Speaker 4: The third seed six top, they had to beat the

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Speaker 5: They beat the shit out of the East.

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Speaker 3: They had to beat Your third seed is sixty win.

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Speaker 1: Season, it's the Knicks, It's Orlando. That's basically the only

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Speaker 4: Good too, with Reggie and markins if they had sixty wins.

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Speaker 5: That's not happening today. No, the third seed will not

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Speaker 3: Just don't win sixty games like that anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's only gonna be probably because they don't stay healthy enough.

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Speaker 2: The number one seeds are the only ones winning sixty games. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: The Spurs might win sixty this year. We might have

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have.

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Speaker 3: Spurs and okay, okay, see third seed was sixty and.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on. That don't even make sense.

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Speaker 1: So what No, because how when you win your division,

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Speaker 5: Record, like in football. Yeah, which is dumb.

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Speaker 1: So they got obviously playing all the same teams, bro, Yeah, disipid.

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Speaker 1: and it's it's getting to be that time of year

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Speaker 1: towards season, almost time, but we wanted to get an

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Speaker 3: You know, some of the candidates for the different awards.

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Speaker 3: So first up, we got Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are very passionate about this one,

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Speaker 1: both of you guys for different reasons. We won't get

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Speaker 3: True, they had to beg them.

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Speaker 1: They literally said, we're gonna pay you more than any

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Speaker 3: And he's like, all right, fuck it, I'll do it.

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Speaker 4: okay see. But the Celtics, we thought we're going to

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 8: Honestly, what about you, Paul, Not that I'm biased or anything,

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Speaker 2: When you look at the coaches that's in this this race,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know before the season, where did we

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Speaker 2: I just think they I think, hands down it should

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Speaker 5: Done, what you think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look Detroit, Like, what I like about them

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Speaker 1: we know we're gonna play the hell out of defense

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Speaker 3: We played with a crazy amount of pace like Indy

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Speaker 1: So Detroit establishing an identity that just sticks and it

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of respect for that, and miss Johnson.

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Speaker 1: What I love about what he's doing is like they

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Speaker 3: But also they know they seem to play kind of

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Speaker 1: They're not some willing stuffy yeah, but they don't seem constraint.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really cool to see what miss Johnson has done.

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's got to be Joe maz like, Like,

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Speaker 3: I like, to me, it's Joe massoula man like the

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Speaker 7: You said, but again, when you look at it, excuse me,

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Speaker 7: we're just playing the park, So how can you say

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know if you remember this, Paul,

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Speaker 3: I think it was. I think it was Miami. I

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Speaker 1: Maszulan was just like, oh, it's such a huge mistake

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Speaker 3: Oh and this guy doesn't know what he's doing, and

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Speaker 1: And man, I might have been one of those people

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Speaker 3: The doubt is wrong. He's one of the best coaches

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Speaker 5: NBA for sure.

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Speaker 2: You know what I will say about Mitch Johnson and

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Speaker 5: They're worried about their tracks.

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Speaker 2: They're worried about, Hey, I gotta I gotta get the

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Speaker 2: expense do you want to win? Is it like sacrifice?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the only reason why I picked Joe of

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Speaker 4: I mean Charles Lee for me, that deserves more flowers

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Speaker 1: I think Charles Lee deserves a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of love because what Charlotte is doing offensively is very sophistic.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, they're serious.

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Speaker 2: You know what changed for them for the Hornets, I'm

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Speaker 4: They established I think a pecking order like it's no

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Speaker 1: Hornets are league best fourteen and three since January the

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Speaker 3: Like this is unheard of in decades of watching the

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Speaker 1: They've never gone further than the second round in the

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Speaker 3: So this is perpetual losing that has been happening.

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Speaker 2: I think it was all good for Chrispy Cree Donuts

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Speaker 4: You see this change in the next couple of years

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Speaker 3: No, not this year, not ship but I think I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they think they can make it happen.

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Speaker 1: I think within two years they should be looking at

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Speaker 1: looking at themselves. You know, we're top four team in

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and you know Brandon Miller what he's doing

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Speaker 3: You know, I know Paul George is like.

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Speaker 1: I think we've finally seen some of those Paul George

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Speaker 3: And he's staying on the court too, which is which

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's unanimous up here that we

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Speaker 3: And we move on to Rookie of the Year. We're

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Speaker 5: Where did go to college again? They played together?

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Speaker 4: They had three like top draft picks. The kid big Kid,

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Speaker 2: The guy from US African. Yeah, they they sweated the

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Speaker 5: He was on that team, I.

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Speaker 1: They should have won it all, but you know, single

448
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,479
Speaker 1: elimination being what it is anyway, Conn is having an

449
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: outstanding Yeah.

450
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 4: I'm wondering how many games has Cooper sat out? Like,

451
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 4: what's the games played?

452
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: It's funny, Mavericks, It's so hilarious. This is this is

453
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: just hilarious to me.

454
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: So because Cooper Flag has already established himself as the

455
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: best player on the Dallas Mavericks.

456
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: They're saying, fuck player development.

457
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: We'd rather just lose as much as possible by sitting

458
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: this guy out when it could win.

459
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: You know.

460
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 5: So he's not gonna be up for the award.

461
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 3: I mean, right, he'll probably play five more games.

462
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 4: He'll played sixty five games this twenty Oh no no, no.

463
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, he needs to play eleven out of the

464
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: next twenty No no, no, no, he must play sixteen.

465
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 5: Sorry, so he won't win if he does it.

466
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's a dull, he's a rap.

467
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 4: I mean, I think CON's played more games ready, eleven

468
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 4: more games, and I don't see him sitting out. No,

469
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 4: they're playing for the plan.

470
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: I think Con they're trying to establish themselves as a

471
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 3: serious team.

472
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 4: I think is very deserving of it. He's more available,

473
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 4: and his numbers just look, they look, they're about the same.

474
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: Efficiency is not too too far off.

475
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 5: But does that count for Rookie the Year all? So

476
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: for the awards? Does that in terms of what playing

477
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 5: for the sixty five games?

478
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I believe so. I should.

479
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: I think it's for all awards.

480
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: I believe so.

481
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: And again it's just Adam just always doing stuff by half, like, oh,

482
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: let's encourage players by stripping them of awards. It's like,

483
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know this, This seems silly to me, but

484
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: I think just on the merits, Cooper flag has probably been.

485
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: Better overall, especially when you can yeah, just all.

486
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 4: Around, because he's the head of the snake, like when

487
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 4: it comes to he's making plays point guard, he's like the.

488
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Main person driving offense when he's on the court. Obviously

489
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: we know he's an insane defender. Not that Con is

490
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: a bad one.

491
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: Con competes. He's not like a scrub, which like.

492
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Con is what third option for some nights, and still

493
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: put up the same statistical numbers as a guy on

494
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: his team who is the number one option. Yeah yeah,

495
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look I'm on Dallas. I was twenty Yeah,

496
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: like that what he's doing, like straight up the.

497
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: Thing about kN that's been so Cooper again, just his

498
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: case again.

499
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: All around, he's he's kind of been become the focal points,

500
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: especially his second half.

501
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: He started off a little bit slow and off he.

502
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: Did, but the second half of the season he's kind

503
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: of become more of a force on that end.

504
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: I think to me with con is like his overall

505
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: feeling IQ.

506
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: He's just super smart.

507
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: He just gets off the ball really quickly the.

508
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 4: Right way, does all little ship.

509
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 3: Hockey assists all over at all.

510
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: He's getting his buckets and he's doing it very efficiently,

511
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: and it's just letting the game come to him. Like

512
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: Cooper had to go out and get the like Broke

513
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Speaker 4: get the record for.

514
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: Threes in February, we got two months of the season

515
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: left to play. Paul and this guy, you know, I

516
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: was watching my guy, Jared Duva does a does a

517
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: log and he was showing the different ways this guy

518
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: is getting his threes off.

519
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: He's getting them off the dribble.

520
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: He's become a really good movement shooter, which obviously just

521
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: super charges the offense because defenses don't want to deal

522
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: with that ship a guy running around a bunch of

523
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: screens and all. And of course his spot up game

524
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: is incredible. He puts the ball on the floor like

525
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: I think people thought that he was gonna be just

526
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: some little spot up guy, but he's shown like, no.

527
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I can't handle the rock, no problem game.

528
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: So to me, I'm leaning Con. He's playing on a

529
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: team that's playing for something. They're not tanking like losers.

530
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 4: It's pretty much a lot, especially with the games played.

531
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: Games shout out to him for improving everybody else wrong.

532
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, do we still do co Rookie of the Years?

533
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 3: Do you remember what Jay Kidd and Grant Hill got?

534
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: The cass the only one I know?

535
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: They don't do it no more because it would have

536
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: been and they did that Rookie of the Years.

537
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 5: No, he didn't. He won outright, He won out right.

538
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 4: They would have did. CO would have been mellowing on.

539
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: Doing that. Who wanted that?

540
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: Yet?

541
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: Did Brown win it? But mellow.

542
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure because he was of that race.

543
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: But Con is actually gonna win it.

544
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope, so, man, I hope. So I'm I'm

545
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: a fan of what he's doing. The shoutouts to Cooper

546
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: Flag as well. Just the whole rookie class I felt

547
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: like has surprised people in.

548
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: Terms of how many guys have already notable rookies.

549
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: Coward Coward has been superable, Comb has been a Revelations Queen,

550
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: Queen and Fear Fear Is the Solid have had their moments.

551
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: It's been a nice class, super nice class.

552
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: Now let's get into our favorite part of every single show.

553
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Speaker 3: Underdog Fantasy.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, we got a big game coming up,

556
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Speaker 1: Thunder at the New York knicker.

557
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Speaker 4: Bockers next could do something special.

558
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Speaker 1: MSG beating a beating OKC and San Antonio in one

559
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Speaker 1: week would be an incredible state in terms of the

560
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Speaker 1: Nickson their roller coaster season.

561
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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get right into it.

562
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Cason Wallace higher or lower than twenty four and a

563
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: half points, rebounds, assists combined.

564
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: I need to know who else is playing? Is jub playing?

565
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: That's a good question, because when they were out, he

566
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: was let me boy, he was getting to it. Casella

567
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Speaker 4: sga out.

568
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

569
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: I got him for a higher higher Yeah, because and

570
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 4: I think Knick's gotta get this one.

571
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: Like, so this guy refuses getting to give.

572
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: The ball up getting to the chicken. Boy, he was

573
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 4: getting to it.

574
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: He's he's, he's, he's been good.

575
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 5: What do you think, Paul?

576
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: I like Case and Wallace, but I just think the

577
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: Knicks at home are gonna be a little stingy on

578
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: defense and understand, Hey, we need to shut this guy down.

579
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: He's the scout report is out now he had a

580
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: scouting reporter is out.

581
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: When those guys are gonna take the lower.

582
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: Uh, he's gonna say, you understand, when you're the guy

583
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: and you go into Madison Square Garden.

584
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: As the guy, you know, and you've been having some

585
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: big games to get the.

586
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: Spotlights, that's one of the ultimate spotlights, you know.

587
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: But I mean some nerves for sure, But I still

588
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: think he's gonna like that's e eight and like his

589
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: average eight across the so like if he gets twelve fourteen, he's.

590
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 5: Not getting eighteen eight rebounds, he's gotta.

591
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: Get get sixteen.

592
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: We get sixteen rebounds and he gets he's gonna getsist.

593
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: They're trapping. He's gonna get assists, like they're gonna score

594
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: even the bad team score one.

595
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Hundred, He'll get ninety four assists for rebounds. Question, is

596
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: he gonna get over sixteen points?

597
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 4: He's gonna get like six rebounds. I think gonna get

598
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: six rebounds and at least six assists.

599
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: Got you, I'm over you. So I think he will

600
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: get like twenty points.

601
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna shoot it every time, even shoot a

602
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: good amount of time.

603
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 5: Bro, He's getting to it.

604
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that because what makes Okay so special

605
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: as a team is their role.

606
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: Guys are so connected and locked into their roles.

607
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: But like when the roles is over, because the superstars,

608
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: he's like all this time.

609
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: Mitchell playing.

610
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: That's a great question.

611
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: Chet Home grew more or less than nineteen and excuse me,

612
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: chet Home grin higher or lower.

613
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: Nineteen and a half.

614
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go lower points. I'm gonna go lower.

615
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just doesn't seem that buckets don't be seen

616
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: to beat.

617
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: It against it. Find he's under man against the next.

618
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: You said Isaiah's playing or no, it's him by himself

619
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: and it is Mitch, Robinson and Katz.

620
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of work.

621
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: I got I got him as higher. I think he's

622
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: gonna shoulder the responsibility. This guy is an All Star.

623
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: I mean, don't take that away, girl. And I think

624
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: he's very under.

625
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: He was averaging less than this though. He's averaging what

626
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: sixteen points a game? Sixteen points a game, I think.

627
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: Seventeen eighteen, I think abound. He averaged around nineteen this year.

628
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: Twenty.

629
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to.

630
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: I believe he has to.

631
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Speaker 3: Lose stunt in.

632
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Speaker 2: They want to putt in situations where he's helping a lot,

633
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: and he's gonna be open.

634
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 9: You know.

635
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Speaker 1: I got him for Yeah, I'm going lower than that

636
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: last but not least check Holme grun higher or lower

637
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: than nine point five rebounds.

638
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: I think he's got like he's gonna be the only

639
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: personal rebound. So I'm gonna go higher.

640
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: I could see and I could see a lot of

641
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: shots getting up in this game, a lot of possessions.

642
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: I got him twenty ten. There you go.

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661
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Speaker 3: All Right, we got to.

677
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: Stand on business really quickly, and Charles Barkley had some

678
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: comments about the business of the NBA. He said that

679
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: the NBA has done a disservice to fans by providing

680
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: too many streaming platforms ABC, NBC, Pecock, ESPN, Amazon Prime

681
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: plus the local affiliates.

682
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: Do you agree with Chuck Paull.

683
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: This is a tough one. You gotta understand.

684
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: The NBA is a is a big business, one of

685
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: the biggest business businesses when you talk about and sports.

686
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: I mean it's like.

687
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: They've grown the game, you know, worldwide, and they've been

688
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: able to say, hey, the money has the pie has

689
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: grown so much that people want the NBA.

690
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: So why keep it? You know why? You know, why

691
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: do we have to gatekeeper.

692
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Networks We've been sharing the NBA with for all these

693
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: years in ESPN and TN T because and and ABC.

694
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: So now they opened the door to where you know,

695
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: these networks say hey we got the check, we got

696
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: that chat we'll talk about growing this business. What is

697
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: the business about growing? Getting bigger checks? Right, That's how

698
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: businesses grow.

699
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: So I'm not mad at it.

700
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's a little frustrated if you

701
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: got certain Like I go to a restaurant to watch

702
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: the game and they don't got pea copy.

703
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 5: I'm like a little kind of like, but I could

704
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: watch it on my phone. I mean, you know, I don't.

705
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's it's it's if.

706
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. I feel like viewership is going pretty well, right,

707
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: I think.

708
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the viewership numbers that help that they're playing

709
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: more games on linear television. So NBC, ES and ABC

710
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: being games at broadcasts on regular TV helps with viewership numbers.

711
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: So I think that's been a boon to the NBA.

712
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: For sure, from my understanding. When I saw I saw

713
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: some different studies that came out, and I know it's

714
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: a pain and ass to have to go different places,

715
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: but the people are watching.

716
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 3: Let's be real, it's a pain in the ass if

717
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: you're over like fifty five. Everybody else has kind of been.

718
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: They know how to work the stream era.

719
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: And what I would say to Chuck is like, this

720
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: is not a problem that the NBA created, Like the

721
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: freaking networks they broke up the cable package.

722
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: They did this.

723
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: They invented these streaming services and told people, Yo, instead

724
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: of getting your one time Warner, Comcast, you know, Spectrum, whatever, TV, Yeah,

725
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: you gotta get all of these different streams. The NBA

726
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: didn't invent the streaming era. They're just responding to what

727
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: the business has become. So I get what Chuck is saying, Like,

728
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: I wish it was easy for fans to be like, look,

729
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: the NBA is on at this time of channel three

730
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: and channel four.

731
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 3: This is where you find the NBA.

732
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: But like, the NBA didn't invent this new ecosystem that

733
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: we all trust. Me as a fan, this stuff kills me.

734
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: Broh.

735
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: The NBA is one thing because I got Lead Pass,

736
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: So it's like whatever, I just click on my League

737
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Pass and keep it pushing.

738
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: I don't even go the box. Yeah there you go,

739
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: two hundred dollars.

740
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: We might have to bleep out what Paul is doing

741
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: watch the games that the rallies might be on what

742
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: Paul is doing to watch the games, But no, it

743
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: like so, for instance, I've never been somebody to look

744
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: for the illegal streams.

745
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Online because it's like man pop ups and then the

746
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: stream cutoff and all of that. So I always like,

747
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: because I got into Europeans soccer, right, so I paid

748
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: for soccer and especially the English Premier League from out

749
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: in England. So NBC Peacock has a deal with them, right. However,

750
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: they got existing cable deals so that they're broadcasting games

751
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: on USA sometimes and Telemoondo and all this shit. So

752
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: you also have to have NBSA Sports, which is a

753
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: different add but you need a cable subscription to sign

754
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: into NBCs.

755
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 6: I'm just like, yo, this is fucking great.

756
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: So the streaming error is just like, it's just so insane.

757
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: What they the hoops they put on sports fans to

758
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: try to watch stuff. But again it's not the NBA

759
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: that's making it so it's the networks that have kind

760
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: of pushed us in this direction. I don't even know

761
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: what the NBA would do, like in terms of getting

762
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: money for the players and the owners. They have to

763
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: go to the networks that are giving money out, like

764
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: Paul just said, So I don't know. I don't I

765
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: feel like this is Chuck's beating up on the NBA

766
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: when they got more stuff that they're fucking up on it.

767
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 3: I don't think the streaming era is one of those things.

768
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 10: Yeah.

769
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: I mean, Chuck, Chuck always has some decent points, but

770
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: I think this one was just like, this one.

771
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: Is a little bit wrong. He yeah, let it go.

772
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: It's like all right, Paul, Yeah, boy. Jason Tatum my

773
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: former employer, Bill Simmons. I don't want to say this

774
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 3: is a report.

775
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Bill's not a reporter, he doesn't do that, but he's

776
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: obviously super plugged into what's happening with the Celtics, and

777
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: he says Tatum may return on Friday Night against the

778
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks, which is just crazy, a miracle in terms

779
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: of what I think. He tours Achilles in May, so

780
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: it's been barely nine months. Dijon Tay Murray just returned

781
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: from an Achilles and it took him over a calendar

782
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: year to recover. K Deep is out for eighteen months.

783
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 5: Wow, So what do you.

784
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: Think about this man, Jason Tatum coming back to the

785
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics.

786
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, we talked about this

787
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: that you know, he got ahead of what he needed

788
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: to do to come back.

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: You know, he got a surgery right away.

790
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: So the question for me is like when the other

791
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: guys took a calendar year eight months, how long before

792
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: they had their surgery. You know, usually in a in

793
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: a situation like this where it's an acl or achilles,

794
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: guys away for the swelling to go down, which will

795
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: take a couple months, and then have the surgery. And

796
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: so you know, if he feels comfortable being out there,

797
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: and we have to wrap our mind around this, it

798
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: sounds great. Ooh, Jason Tatum's coming back. We can't expect

799
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: him to be the same player right away that he

800
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: was before he got hurt. You know, that would be

801
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: like you don't expect Jason table come back and start

802
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: getting thirty.

803
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: Has to work his way to that.

804
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: And I know it sounds great, and you always want

805
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: the best word player when he goes through a situation

806
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: like this and he comes back, just to be as

807
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: careful as he can. But I'm sure the doctors, I mean,

808
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: he's consulted so many different people in this. They've watched

809
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: this progress, They've seen the trainer, the strength and conditioning guy,

810
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: the doctors. I mean, there's so many people that come

811
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: into this process. We have to understand it's not Jason

812
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Tatum saying, oh no, I'm coming back. There's so many

813
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: people that's involved in this process. For him to come back,

814
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: that just was like, you know, gave it. I had

815
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: to give it the okay. So if they're okay with it,

816
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: then I'm okay with it. You just hope, you know,

817
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: nothing doesn't happen again of that nature, and you know

818
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: he could just come back strong.

819
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm with PI. I think they've done the due diligence

820
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: of the ramifications or you know, the pros and cons,

821
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: and they felt he's in a safe space to where

822
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: you know, it's strong enough to where they won't have

823
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: a reinjury. Do I think it's fast? Yeah, I mean

824
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: it just shows that the work he's put in in

825
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: the rehab, you know what I'm saying, So shout out

826
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 4: to him. I mean we've seen the videos say he

827
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: coming back, he ain't coming back to being a role player.

828
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: So I'm hopefully he can get back to that level

829
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: sooner than later. But that's because I think the start,

830
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to very much, you know, kind of

831
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: play a role. But you know, this is this good

832
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: news for him, good news for Boston and again those

833
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: other you know, Katie, I think he just took the

834
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: second year because I think he came back sooner than

835
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: eighteen months, you know, I'm saying, but they just said

836
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: eighteen months before he played. He just sat out that year.

837
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he got hurt in the finals.

838
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: Against US, he took the next year, next year, complete

839
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: came back the after and then he came back the year.

840
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Did he start that season.

841
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 5: Yeah?

842
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: I think he could. He could have, he could have played.

843
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: But also we got to remember this is pandemic interrupted

844
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: as well. It was, yes, yeah, so that has to

845
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: do with the timeline.

846
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: Yes, because he came he got hurt in twenty nineteen

847
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: and then twenty twenty that's when the pandemic happened. So yeah,

848
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: and that season was.

849
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: So got Yeah, his term would have got pushed pushed down.

850
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 9: Yeah.

851
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: And that next season after that started in December.

852
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: Right, So that's what I'm saying.

853
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: So it's June to June twenty nineteenth, December of twenty twenty,

854
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: so you feel me.

855
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 5: He started the season, yeah, when the season started, right. Yes.

856
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Here's the thing too, when you talk to people who've

857
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: had who have dealt with Achilles injuries and the recovery.

858
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 3: What guys talk about is like, you know, a lot

859
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: of the recovery is just on you and the work.

860
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: That you're willing to pull in put it in terms

861
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: of rehab, which to me is another thing that speaks

862
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: to Jason Tatum and his professionalism, his dedication to his teammates,

863
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: to the craft, to the fans that this guy obviously

864
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: put a crazy amount of work in to come back

865
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: this fast, which I think is something we should commend

866
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: him for as well man, which is super dope.

867
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Speaker 3: I thought this was a great question. Do you see

868
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: do you think there are any.

869
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: Obviously the pros, are any cons to have and Jason

870
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: Tatum come back so soon?

871
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: I don't.

872
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: I don't see any cons from the team the perspective

873
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: maybe well, I mean we.

874
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: Can say, you know, they've had the chemistry with and

875
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: without him. There's no He's coach Missoula. If we're talking

876
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: about he's the coach of the year and plug and play.

877
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: You have no problem plugging it at Jason Tatum.

878
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: Come on, I think plugged Jordan Walshing, Pug Jason Taylor.

879
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: You can plug Paul Pierre. It's number two. C still's any.

880
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: Downside, Danny, No, because he just doesn't seem like the

881
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: personality to come and be like, yo, this is my

882
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: show right now. You know what I'm saying. Like he

883
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 4: knows Jalen Brown's got to go and there the other

884
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: guy's got going. You can tell about his interviews. He's like,

885
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: I don't want to disrupt anything. So he's not coming

886
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: in with an ego. If he had an ego problem, this.

887
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: Could be happen. But like, you're not going to be

888
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: as good as Jalen Brown.

889
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: The team that doesn't. That doesn't change the fact that

890
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 4: there's still it creates issue a locker room that create creates,

891
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: you know, tension between So because of the way he is,

892
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: it should be fine.

893
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: I think it's that those games, man, that's what excuse me,

894
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: because there's nothing he can do. And I remember that

895
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: I trained in the summer, right I played pick up,

896
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: I ran the beach, I ran the dudes, I ran

897
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: the stairs. I did all of these things. But when

898
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: I played that first preseason game, I was still tired

899
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: of ship. Ain't nothing, it's nothing you can do to

900
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: duplicate actually playing in a real NBA game. And we're

901
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: talking about the stretch run. You ain't fighting through those

902
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: screens right now. I don't know where you're going to

903
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: do that at at this level, I don't know where,

904
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know where you're gonna be making

905
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: game real like like like real move again, some real defense,

906
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: like like that's the only thing you can implement. And

907
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: so you worry if like just moving at a pace

908
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: that he hasn't moved that until he gets back out there,

909
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: could that you know, playing to him, maybe hurting another

910
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: element of his body got you? You know? So I think,

911
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, as long as they keep the minutes down

912
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: and you gotta work into where he needs to get to.

913
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 5: I say, like just start off ten.

914
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: Minutes, hie and a half, sixteen minutes cool, ramp him

915
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 4: up as it goes.

916
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

917
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't see any downside to this, because again, he's

918
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: such a great player.

919
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: It's not like the system is completely.

920
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: New to him, and he's been watching these guys have success,

921
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: and I know that he could visualize himself and how

922
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: he can help the team when he gets out there.

923
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: All right, we talked about some Barkley comments. Now it's

924
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: time to get to his inside hole.

925
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: Shack.

926
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: You know our teammate here, Maker shouts to the Big Podcast.

927
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Shack is on Rudy go Bear's ass again, after replaying

928
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: the clip of Dante DiVincenzo bricking a free throw and

929
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: later telling the Wolves bench that he shoots free throws.

930
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: Like Shaq, Shaq let out some fire. Hey, way to.

931
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: Fight back, go bro, at least because we ain't hurt. Really,

932
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: no fight back, I don't think, no no swing.

933
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Back, Go Bear said, Vincenzo shot free throws like shaq.

934
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it sounded like.

935
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: Oh he said so so so Go Bear just caught

936
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: astray because Vincenzo was talking about himself.

937
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: Oh so he didn't.

938
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: I wish I was playing.

939
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: I would flavoring his ass the next game. I promise

940
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: you I would. That's the difference with these softies in

941
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: the game. Now, I'm going to see you, Divinceenzo, put

942
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: some spaghetti in your face.

943
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: It's not a weirdly ethnic reference to he's Italian man.

944
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

945
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: I didn't coping with that. I don't know where that that.

946
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: We gotta get the Italian Anti Defamation League.

947
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 5: Somebody. So I throw some fried chicken. Hold on, that's

948
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 5: kind of.

949
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 6: Black guy right on some goddamn water, got her lags.

950
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 5: Jesus diesel hold on.

951
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: Then he thought twice and said, actually, you know, I

952
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: liked Evendo. I'm going to take it out on soft ass.

953
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: Wow, this is just rerouted right to rounded.

954
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

955
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: You know that's like that's like if if you're joking

956
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: on somebody and somebody that's laughing and then you look

957
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: at them like what.

958
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: About Yeah, I know you ain't.

959
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what that is.

960
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, watching this, I shoot free those like.

961
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 5: I see.

962
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: I like that strolls oo.

963
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: It's a tiny shot from Dante Divino.

964
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 10: I wish I was playing to. That's this difference with

965
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 10: these salties in this game. Now, I'm gonna see you, Vincenzo. Yeah,

966
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 10: I'm spaghetti in your face.

967
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

968
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 5: And on that note, we welcome you to the halftime report.

969
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 5: That's funny.

970
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's hilarious collab. But Chuck, okay laugh, I mean,

971
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 9: oh yeah, I'm trying to laugh. You mean I'm funny,

972
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 9: Chuck can laugh. Hey, I'm not here too, amazing.

973
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 5: Actually, no, I like Divinis. I'm gonna check it.

974
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: Damn.

975
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: He was just sitting there.

976
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: To take this.

977
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Obviously, Ncedo's Vincenzo was miked up for ESPN. He knows

978
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna play that clip for Shack.

979
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: So I respect the troll. I don't think he knew well,

980
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: he didn't know that they was gonna play the cliff

981
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: for Shack. No, I don't. I don't know.

982
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: He did a dramatic pause before he said I shot

983
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: my freakings like I think he was fucking rudy, like YO.

984
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: Shot Like I think he was like taking shots.

985
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he was for fun. There's a lot

986
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 4: of stuff you say they cut out. They cut out

987
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: a lot of it because you'll be cussing.

988
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but when you're dissing Shack in the studio show,

989
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: that's good material.

990
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: I don't think his mind translated to like ESPN shock.

991
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, like I don't know.

992
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: I feel like if you you know, may if he

993
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: said something at the game, it was like bump ass

994
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: stephen A like they play like they played on first take.

995
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: You know.

996
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: Anyway, Shack is always taken to wipe a certain big

997
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: man that he uh doesn't I guess think live up

998
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: to the big man's standard. Last summer, he said quote

999
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: as the president of the Big Man Alliance. If you're

1000
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: making big money, play like a motherfucking big man.

1001
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 3: That's it.

1002
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Play like a fucking big man, Shaq said. And it's

1003
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five summer in throw some balls, knock some

1004
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: people out. Don't be letting little white dudes from Denver

1005
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: dunk on you and talk shit to you.

1006
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 6: And then you gotta grab him by the neck at

1007
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 6: the last second.

1008
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, that's it.

1009
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: If you're getting to be fucking getting big, pay the

1010
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: big money, get play big.

1011
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: Damn damn.

1012
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1013
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 4: That was when Christian Brown dunk Dune, the little white

1014
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: boy from Yeah, yeah he likes he like what I'm saying. Yeah,

1015
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 4: Jamal Mury caught him yesterday a couple of days ago. Yeah,

1016
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: Murray carry that happens with a shot blocker, get caught

1017
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: out there, like it's.

1018
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: Just Groody and Dwight who shot?

1019
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: Never remember the body dunking a shot because anybody ever do.

1020
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: I can't remember what Chris Webber might have got him.

1021
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: That's anybody like nobody.

1022
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: No guard, like like definitely no guards.

1023
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: He's definitely dunked on diesel, like maybe maybe buying them,

1024
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: spind on them and dunk.

1025
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 5: Nobody's ever just like poster Shack, right.

1026
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: I don't think so so Bro maybe his old years.

1027
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: I think the center history would definitely foul you. Or

1028
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: he just didn't get to the spot. If he's there,

1029
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: there you're going on.

1030
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: So I get what he's saying, like anybody dunk.

1031
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: Tumbo, l Brand, oh l Brand got okay, okay, another

1032
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: big guy, Okay, but it ain't body the body though.

1033
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: D C was, Oh that's.

1034
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: Ain't No guards went up on shock dog.

1035
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 3: No not I I'm gonna try to get it.

1036
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 5: Oh that's embody the body though a right.

1037
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: Being like postalized was like to be a center like

1038
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 2: Shack is one of the centers that hasn't been posterized

1039
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: like that.

1040
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, don't take later. Nothing was pissed off because

1041
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: by them getting a little chest bump, young fellow.

1042
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 5: See whatever here, Timm Spall, let's see span dunk help side, what.

1043
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 3: Don't count?

1044
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: That's that couldn't even but it didn't even have bounce

1045
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: like that?

1046
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: No more, that wasn't it. We ain't got no real

1047
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: poster is this college?

1048
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: Nos be a preseason.

1049
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 6: Bird?

1050
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: That's funder Thunderbrok is crazy.

1051
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: That's jokes.

1052
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 10: You know that.

1053
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 4: The thunder birk.

1054
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: He didn't.

1055
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: Jack was like with it.

1056
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 5: I ain't going with Mike.

1057
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 4: That's the only guard come through the lane. Shack ain't

1058
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 4: touch up, like.

1059
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 3: It's not happening. Oh damn. You'll remember when Shackles ended

1060
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: Brad Miller's life.

1061
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: Bro.

1062
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if that would have connected, Bro.

1063
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about conclussible yea possibly hospital.

1064
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 4: That was no one. There was no more more after that,

1065
00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: say Sean.

1066
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: Get him.

1067
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 4: They call dune.

1068
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 5: That was a close reaching.

1069
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: Derrick Coleman is the only one that I feel like.

1070
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: It's like lem he came through the.

1071
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: Lane and hawked it on him, and then thunder Bird

1072
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: gave him. Thunderburg gave him.

1073
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: That was the last one. That's a week more. That's

1074
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 4: a week as hell.

1075
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: It shocks Rudy criticism fair. I mean, I think he

1076
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: takes it a little bit too far.

1077
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: Rudy does his job to the best of his capability.

1078
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: It's like the bully when he takes your lunch money

1079
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: and you just continuously little.

1080
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: You have to fight that.

1081
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean, but what.

1082
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: Just like cooking?

1083
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 5: Like yo, I'm three times Defensive Player of the Year.

1084
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 3: You never won defensive player. You got some am.

1085
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 5: He got something to use it? What it is?

1086
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: You gotta come up with something, all right, So we

1087
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: want to get you guys out of here. On I

1088
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 3: think a very pertinent.

1089
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: Question and man, right now about the Atlanta Hawks, and

1090
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: it's never been asked. I don't think this has been

1091
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: asked of anybody before. Are the Atlanta Hawks the most

1092
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: mid team in the history of sports? Called five hundred

1093
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: bro This comes from automatic NBA on X the Everything Hawks,

1094
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: and not only thirty one and thirty in their last

1095
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: sixty two games, but also forty five and forty five,

1096
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: last ninety sixty seven and sixty seven, last one thirty.

1097
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: What's seventy.

1098
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 5: This is not real?

1099
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: Seventy four one, seventy four and last three, forty eight,

1100
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: two hundred and two hundred and ten and two hundred

1101
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: and ten, last four, twenty seven, eighty five, seven eighty five,

1102
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: last nineteen forty and nineteen forty.

1103
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: How many years is that?

1104
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: That's like six It's a lot of years, man, It's like, no.

1105
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: Five years, it's like five season years to get the

1106
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: FO So in the last seven.

1107
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: Years, basically twenty eight hundred six years.

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Speaker 4: So it's basically twenty.

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Speaker 1: Years because it's in the thousands. Yeah, so for twenty

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Speaker 1: years years, that's like, that's almost like twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: last twenty five plus, they're five hundred in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty five years.

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Speaker 5: That's twenty four and a half something like that.

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Speaker 3: The definition of man. They're not asked five hundred.

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Speaker 4: That's five hundred.

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Speaker 5: They're on a tread bill.

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Speaker 3: They're not in though they've never.

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Speaker 4: Been running in places in place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shouts to the Hawks, most mid team in the

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