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Speaker 1: the Serious Chairish today when you first came by and

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Speaker 1: met met Michael Beach, you really played that character correctly.

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Speaker 1: About you had your little Tesla parked out front. You

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Speaker 1: was worried about it. Talk about doctor walk through that

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Speaker 1: little moment because I felt I was telling a brother,

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Speaker 1: I've done that. I've done that when I went in

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Speaker 1: the cringe show. So I know, right, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so you know that's what he has an idea

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Speaker 1: you know, like they're about to you know what you're behind. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: all his his friends and no, no, all the all

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Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, because you kept looking back at your

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Speaker 1: car and then Michael Beach Jackson, I got this, I

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Speaker 1: got this, don't worry about this. I got absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know he's believes in the seeotypes. You

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Speaker 1: know he does it. He didn't leave any room for

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Speaker 1: them to show their character at all. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it. And that's the great the

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Speaker 1: She she peels back little pieces right there because because

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Speaker 1: been successful. You know. He feels that he can intellectually

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Speaker 1: I have in no opinion. I but why why do

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Speaker 1: I have to? Why can't I use this? What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with this? So you see people having different values being

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Speaker 1: guys were improv Was there any improv going along with

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Speaker 1: you guys just stuck straight to the script, to the script.

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Speaker 1: There was there was a little improved here and there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some street language thrown in. They go, I know they

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Speaker 1: in and seed this show. I don't want to tell

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Speaker 1: everybody the actual show because it was There are certain

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Speaker 1: moment that I had when I watched the series, when

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Speaker 1: And uh, the guy Michael Beach if you're not familiar

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Speaker 1: as a writer and producer. I got an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: work with her and she showed her colors as your mom,

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Speaker 1: Evan and Marie Johnson, and it was an honor to

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Speaker 1: work with her. She's an amazing and again of course

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Speaker 1: going up watching her like a living color, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's just she's a beast, a beast, brother, I would

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Speaker 1: tell you something, man, this is I hope I'm not

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Speaker 1: gushing too much. Team Uh, you know, you know when

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Speaker 1: and I've seen I've been fortunate to see a lot

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Speaker 1: of work in movies and television and the stage, and

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Speaker 1: when you see a show like this, it's played out

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Speaker 1: and the chemistry between the two of you, and then

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Speaker 1: the actors that I added to the cast, like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know miss Tyson, which is miss Cecily Tyson. I

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Speaker 1: look everybody that uh ever brought in to play and too,

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Speaker 1: they were just dedicated. They all had stakes, and they

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Speaker 1: I called Pop. Now we all, you know, we built

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Speaker 1: relationships on the set and we came to you know,

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Speaker 1: to to really highlight you know, love and all the

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Speaker 1: things that you said that were to bring this story

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Speaker 1: to life. And you know, so we understand you're gushing.

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Speaker 1: We love that you're gushing. You know. We think Ava

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Speaker 1: for this opportunity as well as owned um for having

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Speaker 1: us and and really just breaking it down that love

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Speaker 1: open to the possibilities and to stay the course and

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Speaker 1: to follow your journey, follow your dreams, follow your desires,

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Speaker 1: and you know, uh, and but also do the work

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not enough to just say it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's That's what I'm saying is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I hear so many people in this show. When I

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Speaker 1: watched this show. This is where I really really like

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Speaker 1: the show. I'm talking to Zosia Rockamore and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to Alana Miller and Um. They're the stars of Chairs Today.

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Speaker 1: Please watch it every Tuesday on own as ten pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern and West Coast and not PM Central. Guys, enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on my show. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Hi. And this is If you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more episodes of Money Making Conversations, you

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Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald um, your host. But let me tell you

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Speaker 1: a couple of more things about the show before we leave.

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Speaker 1: About Chairish Today. And this was always going to and

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate um the two cast members coming on

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Speaker 1: the show. Lauren lot plays her girlfriend and her ride

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Speaker 1: of die girlfriend on the show. When I say that

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Speaker 1: on the Xocia Rocket Moors characters Gentley James and Laura,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Lott plays her friend in the show. She's from

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Speaker 1: again at the early part of my interview, I talked

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Speaker 1: a show about trust, and we know how important trust is.

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Speaker 1: We always talked about trust. We always talked about either

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Speaker 1: trust a friend, trust you your loved one, trust the

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Speaker 1: situation didn't trust you, believe, trust your gifts. This series

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Speaker 1: talks about that is sure about follow your passion. I

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Speaker 1: always talk about that on this show. I always talk

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Speaker 1: about leave with your gifts. I always talk about it's

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Speaker 1: it's time to start reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: start writing your own. That's what these characters are about.

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Speaker 1: They're just playing out in different roles, but they're coming

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Speaker 1: together as a couple. And as a couple, you will

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Speaker 1: have problems. You will you have to accept responsibility what

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Speaker 1: it takes to make a couple coexist. Don't live your

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Speaker 1: that in my personal life. A lot of people doing

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Speaker 1: that every day right now, and they need to stop it.

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Speaker 1: That's what one of the major takeaways I took from

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Speaker 1: chairs today. People always question your decision, ride or die.

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Speaker 1: With your decision here that turn ride or down a lot,

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Speaker 1: ride or die on you for a change, and stop

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Speaker 1: riding to that with somebody helping you ride to die.

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Speaker 1: Believe in your dreams. Don't judge, don't be judged based

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Speaker 1: on your perceptions or people option of you. That's what

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Speaker 1: are no light complexion characters that the legs in. Here

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Speaker 1: black people in the hood. I thought that for real.

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Speaker 1: And it's all right to be different. It's already to

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