1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. Find Mohave Josh, 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: And there's Mohave Chuck, and Mohave Jerry's out there somewhere, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: and so is Mohave Dave. And this is short stuff 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: about something I had never heard of before, Chuck the 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Mohave Desert megaphone, Yes, mohab, how are you, Mohave. I'm good, 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm Mohave Mohave you sure? So dumb? Have you ever 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: been to the Mojave Desert? I guess you have to 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: have been if you've ever driven from Los Angeles to 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Las Vegas? Right, yeah, boy, that's a that's not the 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: most fun ride in the world. I gotta say, barren, 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, it's pretty barrens everywhere, Yeah, exact tumbleweeds 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: and dead mafia bodies and and me and my old 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: friend John Pendell driving to Vegas to get him a 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Crispy Creme Las Vegas T shirt and then driving that 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: does it just does not seem right to call him John. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I know him as Johnny, and I always wi Johnny 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Pendell sounds like a bad kid at school. He was, 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: you know, he was a decent kid. He's probably laughing 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: because he gets in touch with me every time we 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: mentioned him, so he'll laugh at that, so I know 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: he is. That's why I can out him as a 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: bad kiddo. So, um, did you guys ever go see 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: the Mojave megaphone or had you heard of it before? 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I had not heard of it until I found this 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: article on how stuff works. Actually nice work, well, nice 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: workhouse stuff works for really turning us onto something. No, 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I hadn't already said. Okay, I've never heard of this before, 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: and it's mohave okay. Um. So in the Mojave Desert, 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: it is a matter of fact, in the Mojave Desert 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: National Preserve, there is what looks a lot like a 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: giant um weathered steal megaphone bolted pretty much permanently to 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a couple of boulders on the top of like a 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: hill um and it weighs a lot and no one 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: can make heads or tails of not only how it 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: got there, but what it is and how long it's 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: been there. It's a bona fide mystery. Yeah, this is 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: nuts to me that nobody has come out and knows 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: the origin of this thing. I know, like surely by 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: now somebody would have been like, oh, I know the 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: guy who put it there, and here's here's what it is, 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, this is Banks. He's 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: real identity kind of person, you know what I mean. Yeah, 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: so the Majabi Desert is uh or this thing is 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: located actually in the Mojave Desert National Preserve and sort 45 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: of a it says, a remote corner, but they're all 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: fairly remote, and it's just you know, it could be art, uh, 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: it could be a horn of some sort, like maybe 48 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: a siren, and you know, we'll get to some of 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: these in a little more detail, but it's it's just 50 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: crazy to me that no one knows how this got there, 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: especially because it has, you know, sort of shape like 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: a megaphone. But it's the kind of thing where it 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: seems like one would be able to say, oh, well, no, 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: that used to be a thing, because there were other 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: things that are shaped just like this, right exactly, there's 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: nothing like that. And like you're saying, nobody's come forward 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: to be like this is what it is, or everyone 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: has to preference what they're saying with with I think 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: or I I see it as you know, like it's 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: all just interpretation, which is great um and if you 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: just describe it a little further, it looks like two 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: slightly different sized rocket boosters um placed top to the 63 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: top or mouth to mouth. I like to think that 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the fire comes out of the butt, you know, So 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: this is mouth to mouth bolted together like that. There's 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: a couple of like triangular fins. I think there's a 67 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: pair of them, at least towards the end on each 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: side as they flare out. Then inside there's cross hairs 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: basically made of rebar. It looked like to me, and 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing has no markings. There's no numbers, there's 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: no letters, there's no nothing on it, not even what 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: seems like it was maybe used for before. And then 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: if you look at like the rebar in the welding job, 74 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it was part of any kind 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: of mass production. Like it almost gives you the idea 76 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: is like a one off kind of thing, you know, yeah, 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: which means it could be art. It's big. It's about 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: eight ft long, and if you see where it is, 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: you know it took some effort. Uh maybe two people, 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: but probably at least three or four people to get 81 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: this thing up there, get it bolted onto the side 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: of this cliff. Uh, And it has led to a 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: lot of speculation over the years as to you know, 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: there's some pretty decent ideas I think as to what 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: this thing could be. And maybe we should take a break, 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Yes we should come back, Yes, mojave, and we'll be 87 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: right back to really mahabi this mohave, Okay, mohave chuck alright. 88 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: So some people think it might be a siren of 89 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: some kind from the nineteen forties or fifties, Like, you know, 90 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: they tested nuclear bombs not too far from here. It's 91 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: near some army and air force activity. Maybe it was 92 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: an early warning signal. Other people say, I don't know 93 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: about that, Like this thing is really out in the 94 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. You would have something like that closer 95 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: to where people area. So that idea is okay, but 96 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: has also largely been shot down by a bunch of 97 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: other people. So that to me, it still makes sense 98 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: because while it's not it never was very heavily populated place. 99 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a a ghost town called crusero Um nearby. 100 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's between the existing towns of Baker and Ludlow, 101 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and they're not exactly like Beijing and Shanghai or anything 102 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: like that, you know, but there's a rail line and 103 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: all the banded rail line that runs right through there, 104 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: and apparently they used to run chemical agents to um 105 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: the military bases out that way. So while you wouldn't 106 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: have had a lot of people to warn, you would 107 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: have had a potential situation to warn about, even if 108 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: it was just a few people of like a major 109 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: chemical spill or a gas leak or something like that. 110 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: So to me, the idea that it was some sort 111 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: of warning system it does make sense. But at the 112 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: same time, it doesn't make sense that they would use 113 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: some handmade one rather than one that was, you know, available, 114 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: because there were huge air raid sirens that were around 115 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: in World War Two that look kind of similar, but 116 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: we're obviously a raid sirens and they look like they 117 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: would work a lot better than whatever this thing was. Yeah, 118 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I saw on YouTube there was this woman who did 119 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: a siren tests, like, got a crank siren and put 120 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: it in the small end, then had her friends down 121 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: on the ground and see if they could hear it, 122 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: and they could, but it wasn't It didn't amplify things 123 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: that much. UM And interestingly, in the YouTube comments, and 124 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: so believe me, I'm not saying that this this is 125 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: like the worst research possible to say. A YouTube commenter 126 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: said this, But there was a YouTube comment that said, hey, listen, 127 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: I think it might be something from an old salt mine, 128 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: like hot brine might have been pumped at high pressure 129 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: through this thing, because it's just made of such thick 130 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: iron and steel. Like it doesn't he said, you could 131 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: make something a megaphone out of something a lot lighter, 132 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: and that sort of made sense a little bit. That's 133 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: the only reason I mentioned it. Um other people said that. 134 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: They said something like a rocket booster maybe, or maybe 135 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: what's called a venturi, a pipeline venturi, which is an 136 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: enclosure that's is our glass shape that controls the flow 137 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: of fluids through a pipe, which is legitimate too. I 138 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: mean they're like, and wouldn'ty have some record of a 139 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: pipeline through there? That's the thing, Like, there's no apparent 140 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: either some no one's looked in the right place yet, 141 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: or it's it just wasn't documented, which which means it 142 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,239 Speaker 1: was either secret or it is a more recent art installation. 143 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: But if you look at it, I think one of 144 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: the people who run tours out there, um said that, Um, 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: they think that it's been there for thirty or more years. 146 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: This thing looks like it's been around for a lot 147 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: longer than you know. Um, so it looks very old. 148 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: And it's possible it's use was just so mundane that 149 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: it didn't need any kind of documentation or you know. Yeah, 150 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: it is possible as secret and I kind of I 151 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: don't want to know, But at the same time, I 152 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: think I would find it pretty fascinating to know it's 153 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: used to. Like, I think that that also makes mysterious 154 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: objects really interesting, you know, knowing their history. Yeah. Another 155 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: thing that feels plausible to me is that it, uh, 156 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: it was not something that sent out a sound, but 157 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: something that maybe was used to detect something like if 158 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: they were doing nuclear testing at the Nevada testing site, 159 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: that maybe it was something that like measured or detected 160 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: long range shock waves or something like that. Uh, And 161 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: then it could make sense that the government, you know, 162 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: it was it might have been sort of a one 163 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: off and not have manufacturing numbers, and the government wouldn't 164 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: readily come out and say anything like that, yeah, you 165 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: know existed. Plus also, Edwards Air Force Base is kind 166 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: of nearby, which is where um, Chuck Yeager broke the 167 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: sound barrier. Yeah, sure, and he very famous. He said, Uh, folks, 168 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: mohab over and that was it. Uh should we tell 169 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: people how to get there? I think so sure. I 170 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: mean it's all over the place. We even have the 171 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: exact coordinates. Yeah, the exact coordinates. Are you at your 172 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: pencil everyone in Mahabi. Just down on your Mojave thirty 173 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: five point zero zero five six degrees north a hundred 174 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: and sixteen point one degrees west. And that's the use 175 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: your Dakota pins, the little or fan any secret message 176 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: if you want to go there. Um, you cannot just 177 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: walk there or drive there in your Toyota's her Cell 178 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: no shade on the r Cell. Great car, but you 179 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: need a four wheel drive because you're gonna have to 180 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: drive through the Mojave River, You're gonna be on dirt roads, 181 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna be driving through sand, through canyons, and uh, 182 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: you know it's not the easiest thing to get you No, 183 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: not at all. But if you want to get there, 184 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: you can. People have before and you can take a 185 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: photo with it, or do a bring a cranks iron 186 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and do a test of your own, or you can 187 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: look for gold. There's a legend that it actually points 188 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: to a gold horde underground, but yeah, I'm not sure 189 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I buy that one. No. I think they mentioned the 190 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: crosshairs for that reason. But I don't know. It's just 191 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: really interesting. It doesn't it doesn't look like any megaphones 192 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that were used at any period in anyone's history. So uh, 193 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think sometimes people just then they 194 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: find something like a monolith in Utah recently. Yeah, that 195 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: definitely was an art installation, you know. Yeah, that's just 196 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: this isn't necessarily so well, if you do, go, let 197 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: us know, we want to hear about it, get in 198 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: touch with us. And in the meantime, everybody short stuff 199 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: is mohabby Stuff you should know is a production of 200 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. For more podcasts my heart Radio, visit the 201 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. Apple podcasts are where ever you listening 202 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. H