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Speaker 3: Makes us look as good as we possibly can. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so fall time. Yeah right, his job's order and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely we're not going to do a fantasy football focus

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Speaker 2: here today. Okay, we're not going to do any draft

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Speaker 2: stuff here today. We're gonna look at the practice reports

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Speaker 2: for both the Steelers and the Ravens. For the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: h Dante Jackson with the back issue a full participant.

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormick with the hand, the broken fraction hand a

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Speaker 2: limited participant. And he said today that you know, if

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Speaker 2: he's able to play he's not going to do so

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a tough guy, but that shows it

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Speaker 3: a thousand percent. So you've been around the team and

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Speaker 3: Tomlin an awful lot obviously. Has he earned the semi

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Speaker 3: practice this week and still start? I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: rookies usually don't get that treatment, but we're deep into

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's earned that, Like, and you

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Speaker 2: Isaac Samalo was rested today. Michael pre limited today because

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Speaker 2: hovering is a good word for that. Included include Roman Wilson,

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Speaker 3: Many names on the list for them though, no lot

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Speaker 2: At this point the season. Everybody's dealing with something. Someone

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Speaker 3: But I don't think Henry mind it one bit.

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Speaker 2: Like it's become a situation now in Baltimore, like when

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Speaker 2: he makes one, it's a big deal. It's a big deal, yeah,

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Speaker 2: where a forty nine yard field? Right right, Harball, feel

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Speaker 3: I mean they were ridiculously hard kicks and one of

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Speaker 3: Okay, with a lot of those misses come in the

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Speaker 2: But as I as I said, fifteen of the fifteen

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Speaker 3: It's a lot, and he's expensive, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about like off seasons. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it's just interesting. I mean, you're talking about a

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Speaker 3: I know, really rough twenty two kickers have more field goals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a declining player. Yeah, happens everybody. He's a

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be an off season dilemma, and it's

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Speaker 2: Like, it's fourth and four, right, you know, Worth, we'reth

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Speaker 3: Or are we just gonna trust Lamar or trut thought

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Speaker 3: you know three years ago tuckers out there every time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, even if it's a a forty five

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Speaker 3: It shocked me that he's missed so many from forty

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Speaker 2: Wow, not going through the uprights? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, but special teams is another avenue.

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Speaker 2: It really is a lot. You know, can you win

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Speaker 3: They're also the second most penalized team league those three categories.

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Speaker 3: It's two weeks to being less penalized and being way

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Speaker 4: The the the referee. I don't even know science this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're number one now they're now number one, one

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two. Yeah, the Jets and Titans

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Speaker 3: No, I mean they're horrendous football teams.

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Speaker 2: And it's to your point, it's a high number of

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Speaker 3: It's the Steelers have thirty less accepted penalties than the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I mean significant.

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Speaker 3: Only nine teams have fewer than the Steelers one hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty three overall defensive penalties is third most in

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, but I'm always interested against Steelers who takes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and who knows if this crew calls it or not,

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Speaker 3: Game, right, which I know people like as viewers, but

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Speaker 2: You know. Right. Here's the other thing, though, thirty of

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a high number. They had well two

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Speaker 3: That's you know, that surprises me at this stage of Lamar,

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Speaker 3: I always think about who's the coordinator, who's the quarterback

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's they're much stronger than were almost two

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. It's

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Speaker 2: Power Ranking Day. We'll take a look at those when

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Speaker 1: And this is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And we have our final power rankings.

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Speaker 2: Have the regular season here Eric at Holmes Power Rankings

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Speaker 2: on NFL dot com. He did all thirty two. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he did all thirty two. Okay, yeah, there's a new

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Speaker 3: I don't think there should be the Titans, even though

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Speaker 3: they aren't the first. Not the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Who would you have at thirty two right now?

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Speaker 3: Patriots are pretty terrible, That's not who it is. I

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns or who he has at thirty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a team that was picked by many, right.

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Speaker 2: I means to finish point well ahead of the Steelers

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Speaker 3: So I was gonna pull it up because their Aaron

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Speaker 3: It wasn't great, but it was a good offense for Winston.

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Speaker 3: If you take those games out, it's history.

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Speaker 2: Orkley bad I can't argue, right, right, And somehow Jerry

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Speaker 3: And a lot of those five games or whatever. Two

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Speaker 2: At number thirty one up a spot. The Titans.

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Speaker 3: I still think they beat the Giants and Saints Patriots

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirty down a spot is the Giants. Okay,

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Speaker 2: pretty bad, pretty bad. They get the third overall pick

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Speaker 3: They don't have a quarterback right now.

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Speaker 2: No, at twenty nine, up two spots. The first team

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Speaker 3: They don't make good players. I don't know what they

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Speaker 2: in the know in that situation that Mayo then last

436
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: season paid no attention to Bill Belichick or any of

437
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: the anything else that was going on with the coaching

438
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: staff because he knew they were all gone and he

439
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: was coming to and rubbed a lot of people wrong

440
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: in that building. And you know, at that point, Craft

441
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to go back on his words. And when

442
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: Rabel became available, but he had made the promise to

443
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: draw Mayo, who had been a Patriot, yeah, lifelong, So

444
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: he stuck with that. You gave him a year. Rabel's

445
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: still out there, man, I'm not We gotta we gotta

446
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: get the culture back to what it was.

447
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the record was the same Bills last year

448
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 3: and Mayo's first year. Yeah, talent was similar, except you

449
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: had a promising quarterback and I did get the impression.

450
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: Just the little things have snuck out since he's been

451
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: let go is day to day hasn't been real impressive.

452
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: Then.

453
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it's hard to find. It's hard

454
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: to follow Belichick obviously.

455
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: At twenty eight down a spot is another team that

456
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: fired their head coach, the Las Vegas Raiders.

457
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in bad shape too. I wouldn't be super

458
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: psyched about that job either. What do they do a quarterback?

459
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: That's a good question, because you have Jacobe Myers, you

460
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: have Brock Bauers. You don't have a running back. No,

461
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean you need a lot, but you can get

462
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: running backs. Yeah, what doesn't work easier than you can

463
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 2: get quarterbacks? Defense stepped up, but I think it's far

464
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: from complete. Yeah, I think they're at least a year

465
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: away from being anything. And oh, by the way, all

466
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: the other three teams in your division all made the playoffs.

467
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they all have pretty big time head coaches too. Yeah,

468
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: that's wonder what Brady's influence is in that building.

469
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: Now, well, can they talk Brady out of retirement to

470
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 2: play quarterback? Why would he say yes? Why would the

471
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: first player? You know, well, I'm not the first player

472
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: slash owner. Yeah, and le meew it up. Yeah at

473
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: twenty seven, up a spot. Yet another team that fired

474
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: its head coach, the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think it's a

475
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 2: pretty good job. I might disagree with you on now.

476
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: I don't know open jobs. I don't know the Trevor Lawrence. See,

477
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: I get the impression loom was off the rows there

478
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: with me for him.

479
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: I'm still hanging on and it's harder to be a defendant.

480
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, But I do think the league

481
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: values Lawrence a lot more than the fantasy community or

482
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: the casual observer.

483
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: I think he's a good quarterback. Yeah, I don't know

484
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: if he can be great.

485
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. I mean he has not shown greatness.

486
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: I think he's in that second maybe even third tier

487
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: guys below you can top guys. It makes a lot

488
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: of mistakes, makes a lot of just silly mistakes. Yeah,

489
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: like dropping the ball when you're running with it. Oh yeah,

490
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: things like that just you go, what what could he

491
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: possibly have been thinking? There?

492
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: I think, what's his face? The Lions offense coordinator is

493
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: going to get that job Ben Johnson? Ben Johnson, And

494
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's because he wants to

495
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: work with Lawrence. That doesn't mean he's gonna save him.

496
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: I get wanting to work with him because there is

497
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: talent there. Oh yeah, I just don't know that he's

498
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: not the generational guy that a lot of people thought

499
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 2: that was unfair.

500
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's unfair to k Lob, but it's unfair to

501
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 3: all these guys. Yeah, it's almost impossible to hit that mark.

502
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: At twenty six holding steady as the Jets.

503
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: Okay, there's stuff there though. No quarterback though, No, what

504
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: do they do at quarterback?

505
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: Not bring back Aaron Rodgers? I bet they do something

506
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: short term like Carr surprise me. Yeah, I doubt they've

507
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: got an old roster. I don't think they'll build for

508
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: the future. Does DeVante Adams want to go back there?

509
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: Probably not. No, you can come here twenty five down

510
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: two spots in New Orleans Saints.

511
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: They have played hard. There's been some bad moments. Throughout

512
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 3: the year though too. Yeah, I may have them a

513
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: couple spots lower. Yeah, it's just not a good roster. No,

514
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: then they're in a bad spot overall too.

515
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: It's not a good job at twenty four up a

516
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: spot the Carolina Panthers.

517
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: Okay, now we can actually have some positive conversations.

518
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: David Tepper came out and says, I think we have

519
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: our quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what they should do

520
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: with him at this moment.

521
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: You know, maybe get him one more weapon and then

522
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 3: build defense like crazy, more than one. Yeah. I mean

523
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: they drafted a couple receivers lately, you know. I mean

524
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: they can run the ball.

525
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: There's there's stuff there to start with. Yeah, you need

526
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: to upgrade the defense a little bit a lot. Yeah,

527
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: but the division is winnable. Yeah.

528
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're in decent shape, much better than

529
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: I thought that'd be.

530
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: Twenty three up a spot, Chicago.

531
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: That's fair. I mean they've really fallen apart. Yeah, the

532
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: coaching change didn't help them at all. They lost ten

533
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: in a row. People keep talking about that to being

534
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: the best job. I don't know if I think i'd

535
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: rather the Jags, Joe. I don't think it is.

536
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that it is either. It's a

537
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: brutal division. Yeah, And that's you know, when you when

538
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: you if you're Ben Johnson, for example, you said to

539
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: throw his name.

540
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 3: Out there, sure are your pick? Are you leaving the

541
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: Lions to go play against them? To go play against

542
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: the Lions and the Vikings and the Packers?

543
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Right right? You've game planned against these these teams.

544
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: Why I think he's end up in Jacksonville. I'd much

545
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: rather go play against Richardson and you know, whatever going

546
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: on in Tennessee.

547
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: And right at twenty two down two spots, the San

548
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers. I can remember saying when they

549
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: were around fourteen early in the season, that's as low

550
00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: as they go.

551
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: I know, folks, we can be wrong, you know, we

552
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 3: could be wrong. I mean they ended up pretty miserable. Yeah.

553
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: And I've been, you know, regurgitating what you've been saying

554
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: about Shanahan too. I mean half of season's have been

555
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: ten lost seasons. I mean, and it goes bad, it

556
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: goes bad. Hard to believe.

557
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't coach them up to make

558
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: them necessarily no better in those.

559
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: Situas the pull us up because they did. I mentioned

560
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: the DVOA stuff that he put out as a final

561
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: and they have a list of the four or five

562
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: or six biggest droppers from last year, and you know,

563
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: biggest gainers from last year, and the Niners went from

564
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: second to fourteenth. But they said fourteenth is still pretty

565
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: good for four six and elevene.

566
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: Right, you know, shouldn't have been six and eleven.

567
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be six and eleven, you know, I mean you're

568
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: playing better than that, yeah, but you're not. Yeah, other

569
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: droppers were Cleveland went from eighth to thirty second.

570
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: That's hard to do. That's hard to do.

571
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Jackson went from ten to twenty six, Dallas

572
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: goes four to twenty four, Miami six to twenty one.

573
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: Those are all the droppers.

574
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: You know, we haven't gotten a couple of those yet.

575
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're gott to make a decision on

576
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: rock Perty.

577
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're gonna pay him. Yeah, I

578
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: think that's given. Right we talked about earlier in the

579
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: segment here, But Deebo Samuel won't be back, and yeah,

580
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: just Trent Williams play football again.

581
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: And you know, now you have some big holes to fill.

582
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: Right, at least you have a semi early pick though.

583
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: At twenty one the Dallas Cowboys, you.

584
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: Think he's safe. I kind of feel if there's any

585
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 3: more shoes to drop, it's that one. But if it

586
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: seemed like it would have happened already.

587
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean his contract expires January fourteenth, does it? Yeah,

588
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: so you know he's kind of a lame duck sitting

589
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: out there. Are they gonna say, hey, yeah, we'll give

590
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: you two more years or something like that? Possibly?

591
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean head coach has never signed a one

592
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 3: year deal. It'll be a two year deal. But basically

593
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: Jerry saying we'll give you one year and I'll eat

594
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: the last year.

595
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't I mean they stayed competitive, right, give me at

596
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: all year? Yeah, I think i'd run it back. At

597
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: twenty up two spots, the Indianapolis Colts.

598
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Fired the defense coordinator. I think is a really good move.

599
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: That's about where they belong. I don't know if they

600
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: have a quarterback for they got problem, they better bring

601
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: in a competition. I love your fields idea.

602
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: At nineteen down two spots the Atlanta Falcons.

603
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: That's nineteen Yeah, they probably have them a little higher

604
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: than that. Yeah, they have a quarterback I think, I mean,

605
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: they're at least going to roll with them and see

606
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: how he goes. But it's promising so far. Yeah, I

607
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: mean I liked what I saw Pennis. Yeah, and it

608
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: would definitely be another defensive offseason for me. Yeah, but

609
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: drafting pass rushers will be good and wouldn't have been

610
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: trying to do that for a dozen years now. But

611
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: they also have this massive Cousins cap hit too that

612
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: makes things hard.

613
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, at eighteen holding steady the Miami Dolphins, Tyreek doesn't

614
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: sure it sound like Tyreek out? Yeah, he once out.

615
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Did you see how he changed his Twitter emoji or

616
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: whatever he put his face on Antonio Brown's body when

617
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: he was like leaving the stadium.

618
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: He wants out, But I wouldn't. That wouldn't be the guy.

619
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: That I, oh, let's go run and associate myself.

620
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: There's that.

621
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'm not sure that's the smartest career movie.

622
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody's ever you.

623
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: Know, said he don't know that he's gonna take you know,

624
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs' jobs NASA anytimes. Yeah right, Yeah, but there's

625
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: talent there and he's not that bad a cap hit

626
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: for the new team.

627
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: No, he's not.

628
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's just a matter of he's thirty one

629
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: one not he's like one season of his career not

630
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: go awesome.

631
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, as i I'm out. Yeah, uh seventeen up two spots.

632
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals.

633
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: Trending the right direction. I like what they're doing. I

634
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: just keep building defense. But I wonder if Kyler can

635
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: ever get me there.

636
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: Kind of he might, kind of bed.

637
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the Lawrence conversation.

638
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Good players not great players, right right? I mean, can

639
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: I win the division? Maybe? But can then I.

640
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: Get knocked out against in Philly?

641
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: You know two years from now or whatever sixteen is. Seattle,

642
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: they made a change, didn't they. They changed the office coordinated.

643
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: Oh see. They were the only ten team, ten win

644
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: team to not make the playoffs. This is a record

645
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: for ten win teams with fifteen this year.

646
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're the only one didn't get in.

647
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: They're the only one that didn't get in.

648
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I guess someone had to fifteen.

649
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

650
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: So we don't see a ton of this, but I

651
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: think the general public doesn't realize how much more difficult

652
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: it is to coordinate an offense. In the NFL versus college.

653
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like the simplest things, like just because of

654
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: the hash marks, you don't even align in the same spot.

655
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: Your third receiver. I mean you go trips to a side.

656
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: The width is different, everything's different. I mean, all the

657
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: geometry of it's different. Let alone the competition. Right, that's

658
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: a tough move. And you don't have three NFL receivers.

659
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: The first round tackle, a second round tackle in a

660
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: first round quarterback.

661
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Oh, another one, let's go buy one and yeah.

662
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: As the yeah, donor ask.

663
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Speaker 2: The Boosters to go get you one. Fifteen is the Bengals.

664
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Speaker 3: I guess that's fine. Should they be the first non

665
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: playoff team? I guess I guess. Yeah.

666
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: You can make an argument for them or Seattle? Yeah, yeah.

667
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: Fourteen the Houston Texans.

668
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: Hasn't been good. Yeah, that has not been good.

669
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah against you know, we talked about the Steelers situation.

670
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: The Texans haven't been good against some of the similar competition,

671
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: but they've also not been great against like they anyway,

672
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: they won on Sunday.

673
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: But they they they said everybody right, the Titans weren't No, yeah,

674
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: they played, they played some The Titans weren't interested in

675
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 3: winning that game. No, no, no, Mills played a lot

676
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: of that game.

677
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played basically the whole second half.

678
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was not really an NFL football game.

679
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: No, that was a basically preseason game.

680
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: But they're a great plexigras last principal team. You take

681
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: a massive step forward, you're almost always going to rebound

682
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 3: back a little bit.

683
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

684
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

685
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: Thirteen the Pittsburgh Steelers down three spots.

686
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: I figured it would be twelve, thirteen, fourteen.

687
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. We'll see.

688
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta sort of winning games.

689
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Twelve the Los Angeles Rams.

690
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: Fine, can they make noise in the playoffs? Maybe win one?

691
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: Play the Vikings.

692
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: I know I won't pick them to win, but I

693
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: can now see that happening.

694
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: Eleven up two spots of the Broncos. I think they're

695
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: gonna play the Bills tough.

696
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: I mean, here's my problem with that can match up

697
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: eleven or twelve point spreads, it's.

698
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: Actually I think eight and a half.

699
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: Oh I thought it was double digits.

700
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: My problem with that matchup from a Denver perspective is

701
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: that the one thing that they don't do offensively well

702
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: is the thing that teams have been able to do

703
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: against the Bills, and that's run the footprint the football consistently. Yeah.

704
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: Physical, they don't play they don't have that guy.

705
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeahah, And so I don't know that they're going

706
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: to necessarily generate enough of a rushing attack to keep

707
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: Bonnicks from getting you know, beaten up by that.

708
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: That defin Daniels worry me as rookie quarterbacks in round

709
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: one period. I mean, they're not gonna be an easy

710
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: environment either.

711
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: I think their defense will be fine, they'll you know,

712
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: be okay in that. But you know, again, they could

713
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: turn the ball over a couple of times and then

714
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: that's over. It's over. Yeah.

715
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: I do like their defensive situation. I had mentioned the

716
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: biggest fallers in Dvoa.

717
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: They were one of the.

718
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: Biggest risers that you can imagine. They go twenty four

719
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: to six, Minnesota goes twenty three to seven, and then

720
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: Washington goes thirty first to tenth. Arizona went twenty ninth

721
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 3: to twelfth. So I don't think it's a shockers. Yeah,

722
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 3: you know, all those guys trending the right direction.

723
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: At ten up as spot is, Tampa Bay defense is

724
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: a problem. Defense is an issue. Yeah.

725
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Baker's playing really well. Their O line is really good.

726
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: I think their skill guys are good enough. I think

727
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: they'll beat Washington.

728
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: I do too.

729
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: I would have them ahead of Washington. The power right, Yeah.

730
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: Nine is the Chargers. I think we're getting a little

731
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: ahead of ourselves with them. I think I don't know,

732
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: that's a toss up game between them and Houston. I'm

733
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: sorry it is. Oh, I think so too because their defense.

734
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: Houston's defense will give the Chargers issues because they don't

735
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: run the ball.

736
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: I have no clud numbers, but I want to.

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00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: Take the under. It's it's Chargers by three.

738
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I just yeah, it can't be a high

739
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: over under and then it's gonna be a slog.

740
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: I just think that that Houston's defense will give the

741
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: Chargers issues because all they want to do is run

742
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: the football.

743
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I like Houston's yeah. Uh able neighborhoods

744
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: kind of yeah, cloudy though. The Chargers are kind of high.

745
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: But I don't know that I put them below the

746
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: teams were mentioned.

747
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: You know, eight down A spot is Green Bay.

748
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: I would have green Bay ahead of everyone we've mentioned,

749
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: but they're not a great spot right.

750
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: Now now, losing Christian Watson hurts not beating the good teams.

751
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: Jordan Love being hurt. Yeah, he's not just an issue. Right,

752
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: I've referenced the.

753
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: Lack of true star power. I think they're in for

754
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: a long.

755
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: Day and your your six losses were all the teams

756
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: are they're about to play. Yeah, right, Washington is at

757
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: seven up a stretch weight. That's I can't get on

758
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: board with that. Okay, they're twelve and five, I get it,

759
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: but they're not a good foot. They're not a great football. Yeah,

760
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: they're their coverage they've been fine.

761
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well coached. That's a phenomenal rookie quarterback. They got

762
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: a lot more a lot more production out of O line,

763
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: receivers not named McLaurin and defense. Then those players really warrant.

764
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: I can see them taking a step back next year. Yeah,

765
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: you know that they could be a perfect PLEXI last

766
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: night with team too six down two spots is Minnesota.

767
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: These are the contender contenders to me, these six. I'm

768
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: still going to keep Minnesota there, but they would be

769
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: six for me. There's a rough showing five upper spot

770
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: is Baltimore. Sure, four upper spot is Philadelphia. Okay, they

771
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: might be one for me. But they don't have the quarterback.

772
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: I need to know what's going on with Jalen Hurts. Yeah,

773
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: because here's the problem with Jalen Hurts being in concussion

774
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: protocol part of practice.

775
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, you're not practicing, and even if you do practice,

776
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be limited because you got to go

777
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: out and do some football like activities, running around a

778
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: little bit in.

779
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: Order to get the stamping approval. In order to get

780
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: to the approval. So if you're not practicing this week

781
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: for a playoff game, you haven't played in two weeks, quarterback,

782
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: you're the starting quarterback. Like how I understand they just

783
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: want to come out and run the football still, I

784
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: mean you're gonna throw it at some point. I mean, yeah, yeah,

785
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: you're not rolling over the Giants this week, right, you know? Right?

786
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: And you know the one big thing that they like.

787
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: That to derail your season.

788
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, the one big thing I like to do

789
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: with them is this short yardede stuff. You're going to

790
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: open that he's coming off a concussion. You're gonna you

791
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: don't want some you know, three hundred pounds defensive lineman's

792
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: you're holding them.

793
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if he eliminates the toush push and his

794
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: running and some of that too.

795
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: Say we've done this all year? Or do you bring

796
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: in your backup quarterback them in or something right? Or

797
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: do you have take the snap?

798
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: You know it's Harry. I mean that's not the guy obviously.

799
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think we're breaking any news here.

800
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: You don't want your starting quarterback to have a concussion

801
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: and playoff week No, not good, right, It's hard to

802
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: get back for it though. Three down a spot is

803
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: the Bills, Okay. Their defense worries me, just from a

804
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: finesse standpoint though, Yeah, like I would not want to

805
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: play the Ravens I from them. Two up a spot

806
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: is Detroit, okay, and then I have them ahead of

807
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: Kansas City. Kansas City is one.

808
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Respect.

809
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, they're playing well and they're

810
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: seem to be peaking at the right time, big shock.

811
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: But the lines of the vikings an eye open.

812
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: In a game that both teams are playing, playing hard.

813
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, the Chiefs didn't care one bit about this

814
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: past week. Yeah, I don't mind a lot of problems

815
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: with that, oh on know.

816
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's where we sit heading into wild Card weekend.

817
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a break, Matt, and now will

818
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: be back with more on the drive right after this.

819
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

820
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

821
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: Black and Gold cas Steelers Nation Radio.

822
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale Lolli and he is

823
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt looking here at the Pro

824
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: Football Focus Awards twenty twenty four, the NFL's Yeah, best

825
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: players in twenty categories.

826
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Speaker 3: I was gonna check it out to night, but I

827
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Speaker 3: guess I won't happen.

828
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: Let's buzz show it here. So best runner in the league,

829
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: coordiney Pro Football Focus is Derrick Henry.

830
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw there. I did click on their All

831
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: Pro team and they gave him the nod over Barkley,

832
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: a lot of it after they in over a thousand

833
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: yards after first contact for the third time the hand

834
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Speaker 3: which is Bolkers.

835
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Best run defender regardless of position, TJ Watt, TJ Wat.

836
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: I could see that. Yeah, people just don't even run

837
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: his side anymore.

838
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: He was really good this year run.

839
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: Like you can argue who the best edge guy is

840
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: in the league, but he's the best defender against the

841
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: run of those.

842
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Guys, the Garretts and Boast. Yes, yeah, he absolutely is

843
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: their Offensive Player of the Year, Lamar Jackson.

844
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: That's cheating given it to an MVP candidate. I mean,

845
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: Barkley is gonna win the award. But I do find

846
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: it funny the Chase wins a triple crown and doesn't

847
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: even get a sniff for Offensive Player of the Year

848
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: because it's gonna go to Barkley.

849
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, their best passer among quarterbacks, I bet it's

850
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: Jackson or Burrow. It's Joe Burrow Brow. Yeah, so that

851
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: those are They releasing some of these every day. The

852
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: interesting thing about this one, why I wanted to talk

853
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: about it, is they released four awards today and all

854
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: four players are AFC North players, And.

855
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: Say, we're talking about a lot of familiar guys.

856
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: I've seen.

857
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: All these dudes are about to or you know, one

858
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: of them's fifteen minutes away on the south side, right,

859
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: you know.

860
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good division.

861
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you you know again, people talk about the divisions, Well,

862
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: the NFC North was so much better this year, is it. Yeah?

863
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Brown's hurt, the Browns hurt. But if you

864
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: look at like look at the teams that the Steelers,

865
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: the Ravens, the Bengals played this year as opposed to

866
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: we talked in the previous segment about well, Green Bay

867
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: lost every good team as they played, right, they still

868
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: went eleven and six because they didn't play a lot

869
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: of good teams.

870
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: You know, like the Ravens for example, have some bad losses, Pators, Browns,

871
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: of course, I mean, and most teams do. But of

872
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: all the playoff teams, they're average strength of victory is

873
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: by far number one because they've played tough teams.

874
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, right, they played the first place schedule

875
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: and they're going to do so again next year.

876
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah they get any easier, no walking Park, Yeah, which.

877
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: Means you get Allen and my homes again, and right,

878
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you got to play all those teams.

879
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: But the I mean the AFC North you got Derrick Henry,

880
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: you got t J. Watch, you got Miles Garrett, you

881
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: got Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. Star power. There's star power

882
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: across the board with all four of those teams.

883
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: Really, it might be a fun thing to do in

884
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: the doll you know, the dog days of you know,

885
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: July or whatever. But what division has the most future

886
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: Hall of famers. It's to be hard to beat the North,

887
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: really is I mean, yeah, every team's got a couple already.

888
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: I mean I'm thinking Chase and Garrett and guys like

889
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: that that aren't done yet.

890
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: They're probably going and Chase isn't there yet.

891
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he's on that pace though. Yeah, with the

892
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: triple crack, can blow his knee out to me. I know,

893
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: I know, I'm saying, I hope you, but he's not

894
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: there yet. Derrick Henry is a Hall of Fame. TJ

895
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: Wat's going to be a Hall farm probably a multiple

896
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: m VP. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean you might win

897
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: three yeah, Burrows on that pace.

898
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: Here's what they're going to release the rest of the week.

899
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: Wednesday will be their Breakout Player of the Year Arnold

900
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: breakout players.

901
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Trying to think of like a running that I always

902
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: think about fantasy, a receiver running, somebody who can came

903
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: from nowhere.

904
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's a good one. The linebacker for the Broncos,

905
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: the outside backer Bo Benito.

906
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good one. There's definitely some of those

907
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: type of guys, some defensive players, Zach Bond, Yeah, you

908
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: guys like right right, yea makes sense.

909
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those guys were kind of.

910
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: They weren't household names, they weren't super high picks. Whoa, Okay,

911
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 3: he's one of the better guys's position.

912
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year.

913
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: It'll be Jade Daniel, it will yeah, but Bowers and

914
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Neighbors aren't too shabby either, and Knicks, you know, Defensive

915
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: player of the Year. I think it's gonna be certain.

916
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: Hendrickson actually moved up to the Vegas boards after he

917
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: can't win it.

918
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Though his argument would be the same thing.

919
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 3: It's kind of Garrett, except his defense is way worse.

920
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he led the league. If you're gonna give

921
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: it to the guy simply because he led the league

922
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: in sacks, then why the hell didn't TJ want win

923
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: it last year? Yeah?

924
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: I think it'll be Stan Okay, really good defense, did

925
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: well against big time receivers.

926
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: On Thursday, A're gonna reveal best pass rusher. Okay.

927
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: The guy that's been lately is Parsons.

928
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: Comeback player of the Year.

929
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: I hate that award, but is that that'll be Darnald?

930
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: That should be Darnald, let's put it.

931
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Was Burrow hurt last year? Yeah?

932
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard his name there, you see Burrow winning it,

933
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 3: but it should be Donald Defensive Rookie of the Year.

934
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be Verse, but Mitchell's pretty

935
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: strong too. I think Mitchell's case has gotten stronger the

936
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks where versus is not versus.

937
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: His own teammate might have had a better overall season

938
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: the defense. Yeah, Fisk, it's not.

939
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: A great year.

940
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I bet Mitchell wins it. Friday will be their MVP.

941
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 3: Okay, it'll be Allen.

942
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: I think it should be Allen. The Dwight Stevenson Award,

943
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: which is for the best overall player. I'm not sure

944
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: why Dwhite Stevenson gets the really good player, but I

945
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: thought that was going to be for best center.

946
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: Who's the best player in the league.

947
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: That will be Lamar.

948
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: To me, it's almost a short cut the thinking. But

949
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: I think that that those top four quarterbacks Burrow, Lamar,

950
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: Mahomes and Allen are the best football players on the planet.

951
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: And I don't think most of years you could say that,

952
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: like better than Lane Johnson and Penny Stowell and Justin

953
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: Jefferson and DJ Watt and Miles Garrett and Certaan.

954
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: I think they're remarkably good. Those four. The Rookie of

955
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: the Year.

956
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Looks like, why is that different? That is I mean

957
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: Dan regardloss a position. It's gonna be an offensive guy,

958
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: I mean, will it? I mean rookie of the year.

959
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Those defensive guys they have.

960
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: They have an offensive and a rookie defensive So who's

961
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: the Maybe they're just looking that opens it up.

962
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: Could it be an offensive lineman? Yeah, could it be whatever?

963
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Maybe Bowers gets that.

964
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Maybe Bowers gets that.

965
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I can understand that. I mean what he

966
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: did was pretty remarkable. To best pass blocker, Lane Johnson,

967
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: best run blocker, Penny School on Monday, they were real

968
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: best receiver. I bet Chase wins it this year probably Yeah, yeah,

969
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean Jefferson or having a class right now.

970
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: Best offensive lineman.

971
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: I think it's Lane Johnson, but I would understand Humphrey.

972
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: How about Tristan Wurf's worfs is in the conversation and

973
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: souls in the conversation? Yeah, best coverage defender. Is there

974
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: a line because I know they've given that to like

975
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: Keik Lee in the past. Yeah, you know, you always

976
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: think about safeties and corners, but I bet it's certain he's.

977
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: Not going to win Defensive Player of the Year, and

978
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: that one probably probably not.

979
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: I guess the way they let's split him up is

980
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: it like a Fred Warner. I don't think he had

981
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: a year. That's a tough one. No one comes to mind.

982
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh and then uh revealed on Tuesday, January fourteenth,

983
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: their best overall offensive line and their best special teamer.

984
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: Best special teamer should be Chris Plains, so I should

985
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: be boss.

986
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any returner that's lidded.

987
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 2: But all season long, they even they haven't even had

988
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: bos Well was their top rated kicker.

989
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: I would say they're all Pro team was Aubrey, which

990
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, Aubrey's awesome, but that's not even close.

991
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: He didn't have a better year than Boswell. No, he did, not,

992
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: No one, no kicker I can remember did.

993
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

994
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, is Philly the best o line lines are in

995
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: the conversation. Conversation has gone in that neighborhood. I think

996
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 3: he'll go to the Eagles, probably, yeah, probably so anyways, matters,

997
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Speaker 3: that's it for today's show. We'll see we'll check back

998
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Speaker 3: on those later in the week and see where they're

999
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: at with some of those. See if we guess right

1000
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: on some of these things. I think Cam was there,

1001
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, All Pro defensive tackle though he was one

1002
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: of the two. Yeah he should be yep.

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Speaker 2: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 2: on site running the Justin Miller hotline and making sure

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Speaker 2: Vittmeyer making sure our video gets out there on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.