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Speaker 1: Hello, it's Richard McLean Smith here, not the impostor you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to on the podcasts, the real one. Join

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Speaker 1: me for Unexplained TV at YouTube dot com forward Slash

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Speaker 1: Unexplained pod. In the early hours of Christmas Day nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty five, dawn breaks over the small town of Fayetteville,

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, in the United States. All across the county,

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Speaker 1: children arousing from sleep dreaming of reindeers and presents under

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Speaker 1: they're startled to find thick smoke hanging over the town.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't the festive haze of burning logs and roasting chestnuts.

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Speaker 1: Acrid and deadly. On Beckwith Road, in a quiet rural

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Speaker 1: district on the outskirts of town, people stepped out of

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Speaker 1: upwards from number twenty sixty two. The house belonged to

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Speaker 1: George and Jenny Sodder. The couple had ten children, nine

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Speaker 1: of whom were home when the fire broke out. Like

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Speaker 1: with nothing but joy and excitement for the day to come. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they emerged into a nightmare. When fire services made it

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Speaker 1: desperation as the volunteer crew did their best to stem

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Speaker 1: missing children, but none appeared. Hours later, with the blaze

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Speaker 1: having long since burned itself out, fire Chief F. J.

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Speaker 1: bodies of the missing children. Black smoke hung thick in

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Speaker 1: the air, still billowing from the rubble as he stepped

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Speaker 1: more confused he became. The children's bodies weren't there. After

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Speaker 1: members looked close to catatonic. Morris took a moment to

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Speaker 1: told them that he'd searched the house from top to bottom,

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Speaker 1: but for some inexplicable reason, he'd found no trace of

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Speaker 1: It was almost too much to wrap their heads around.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the awful news they'd been bracing themselves for,

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Speaker 1: perhaps even worse. Their five children, it seemed, hadn't burned

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Speaker 1: to death in their beds, they'd completely vanished. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Unexplained and I'm Richard McLean Smith. Giorgio Sodou was

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Speaker 1: born on the Italian island of Sardinia, but in nineteen

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Speaker 1: intention of immigrating. It isn't known why exactly, but shortly

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Speaker 1: after their arrival at New York's Ellis Island, a tearful

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Speaker 1: Georgio was given the crushing news by his brother that

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Speaker 1: he would be continuing his journey on his own. Georgio's

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Speaker 1: brother gave Georgio one final hug, then got straight back

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Speaker 1: on their ship and sailed back to Italy. Georgio's only

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Speaker 1: option was to assimilate as quickly as possible. By his

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Speaker 1: mid twenties, the industrious Georgio Sodu had changed his name

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Speaker 1: within a year they were married. Together they moved to Fayetteville,

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Speaker 1: nineteen forties, the Soders seemed to have firmly established their

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Speaker 1: George had left Italy behind. He was deeply invested in

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Speaker 1: tradition that the younger children be allowed to open one

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Speaker 1: But there was still no movement from inside, and within

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