WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: A Setback For McCarthy? 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.800 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:28.480 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.120 All right, everybody is Friday. It's that time. It's time 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.720 to have some fun, laugh a little bit, dive into 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.519 the Cowboys and all the things that are happening. Is 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.880 we get ready for the NFL Draft, which will take 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.599 place April twenty third, twenty four to twenty fifth. I 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.760 am Newe Scrugs, your co host here of the Players Lounge, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:54.160 along with former Dallas Cowboys players Buried Church and Danny McCray. McCray, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.840 how you doing. I'd noticed you have on a specific 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.680 T shirt Morey reason. Yes, yeah, man, I'm I'm doing 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.480 an excellent man. The All Decade team came out today 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.959 and we had two players on that list, and it 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.319 could have been three, but we'd get into that a 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.600 little bit later, because Patrick Peterson was definitely one of 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.039 the best point returns of twenty of a decade. That church, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.000 how we do it today? Man? We do a church. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.640 We're doing good, and then I got an empty household 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.559 right now. So it's real quiet and nice and calm 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.400 in here. So let's go to work, fellas, how do 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.240 you sleep in church with a newborn? I'm clipping terrible. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.800 She's trying every hour and a half, every two hours. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.360 But I'm trying to make it work, man, trying to 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:42.200 make it work. All right, fellas, Let's dive into a 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:46.240 topic that I think we've kind of forgotten about because 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.280 of everything with COVID nineteen shutting things down, but the 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.040 fact that the Cowboys are supposed to be able to 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.920 start that off season program a little bit earlier than 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.320 other teams because of having Mike McCarthy a new coaching staff, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:01.080 and right now the facilities closed the Cowboys facility to 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.240 start all across the NFL. So you guys are former 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.800 players here, how much do you think this is a 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.240 setback for Mike McCarthy and also the players of not 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.560 being able to get this offseason program start. I think 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.800 it's a huge setback, especially for this offense and defensive 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.800 side of the balls. I mean, you're implementing a totally 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.320 new game plan on both sides of the ball. You 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.399 got your quarterback there who's having contract negotiations, who knows 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.240 if he's going to show up or not, and you 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.080 need him to basically lead this offense which is going 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.040 to be a new offense, new terminology, all that stuff 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.680 that these players got to learn. And that's when you 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.600 go into OTAs and learn these type of things, so 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.400 when you get to the training camp, you can hit 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.720 the ground running as well as on the defensive side 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.880 of the ball. I mean, you have leaders and guys 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.880 like Sean Lee and all those other guys who are 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.960 learning new defenses and new terminology and how they're gonna 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.720 run things. I mean, I've heard and saw some things 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.799 that where they're gonna implement a new type of three 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.680 four types game in there as well or some elements 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.440 of the three four scheme in there. So these guys 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.800 are gonna have to learn how to play, maybe new positions, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.359 maybe learn a whole new differ scheme. So I think 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.960 it it it'll hurt him a lot to not have 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.760 this time to start early for this new scheme. Yeah. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.080 I feel the same on both fronts. Uh. Like we 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.080 talked about last week, I think this is this is 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.680 helping the Cowboys out because I really don't think Dak 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.040 would have showed up to these OTAs without that, without 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.760 that contract, so it's kind of saving face for him 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.480 a little bit. But yeah, put input in the new 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.399 offense and having these young receivers and people who don't 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.480 know the offense and trying to learn it virtually, it's difficult. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.200 And we went through this in twenty eleven when we 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.920 got Rob Ryan and we tried to input his thick 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.600 playbook in uh too fast, and it showed up on 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.320 the field we were out there, you know, we're a 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.000 little a little bit more confused than we would have 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.560 been had we had the correct time to input the 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.840 plays and do the do the walk throughs that we 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.800 would have normally had without the lockout. So I think 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.320 we'll see some of that with the Cowboys and honestly 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.720 across the league because a lot of a lot of 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.200 those teams will have new guys coming in who won't 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.040 be able to do those walkthroughs and practice and learn 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.320 those defensive offices the way that they would have with 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.920 if things were normal at this time. All Right, mccrais 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.360 stayed there because you bring up a good point about 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.640 how you went through this in twenty eleven in a 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.320 similar situation. You look in the NFC East, the Cowboys 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.120 with the new coaching staff with Mike McCarthy, Joe Judge, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.280 and the Giants new coaching staff up there with the 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.000 Giants and then Rob River and Washington new coaching staff. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.920 So right now, Philadelphia the only team in the NFC 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.839 East that has continuity with the coaching staff in a 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.240 playbook that people know, so that you have to say 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.159 that gives them an advantage. Yes, I would. I'll go ahead, Danny, 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.279 go ahead, go ahead. Now. Yeah, yeah, I think it 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.680 gives them an advantage as long as they're healthy. We 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.919 saw last year that that was their achilles hill, not 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.560 being able to stay healthy, but them being able to 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.040 have the same coaches and the same playbook. The only 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.680 thing they to stop them is the new players that 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.760 they draft and bring in and free agency. They will 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.000 have to step in and learn learn those plays. Yeah. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.040 I agree with you one hundred percent there, Danny. I 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.360 think Philadelphia has you know, a huge head start right now, 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.480 and they're bringing back their whole team and you know, hopefully, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.520 like you said, if they stay healthy, they I mean, 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.599 they're the front runners right now because they already know 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.520 that scheme. They already know the coaches, They already have 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.800 a bond a relationship with those guys, and they've been 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.960 to the highest level with those guys. So and they 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.240 want to division last year with the same type of coaches. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.159 So I think they have the head start right now. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.280 But like you said, they gotta stay healthy. I mean, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.560 they were banged up a lot last year and we'll 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.719 see if the Cowboys can catch up. All right, The 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.160 Cowboys have done something that I absolutely love and they 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.320 put this out on Twitter. They're doing interviews. Um, you know, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.839 they're jumping on the zoom calls and they're doing interviews 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.080 with prospects and for the first time, they're they're allowing 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.560 us to get a little bit a little taste, small 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.360 taste if the questions they're asking the guys here. And 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.839 I want to start with Kenneth Murray of Oklahoma. He's 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.720 a linebacker and what he said to the Cowboys, and 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.719 I thought Jerry Jones asked him a really good question. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.480 One of the things about Jerry Jones, in case Cowboy 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.960 fans don't know, Jerry struggled. You know, you think of 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.840 Jerry now as a billionaire, but he struggled early on. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.080 He's always worked for himself. And one of the things 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.159 that Jerry really has a has a thing for people 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.560 who have been knocked down who get back up. So 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.240 this is the Cowboys coaching staff and Jerry Jones with 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:31.039 Oklahoma linebacker Keith Murray. Let me ask one that I 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.040 ask it frequently this play. If you can come up 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.640 with a setback, if you can come up with where 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.839 you have to really call yourself at any time in 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.960 your life when you were young, you were kicked around 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.520 or what do you think gave you a lot of 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:56.440 the setbacks are the controversy or the challenge that might 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:01.600 have helped you be a football player? You are well, Uh, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.479 you know situation that I'm that I that I would 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.440 that I like to talk about and that's made me 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.480 who I am on the field and off the field. Uh. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:14.040 You know, I wouldn't say it's more short setback. I 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.680 say it's more so a blessing. I mean, you know, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.520 if you look at it the way I am, in 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.360 the way you know my family has, it is a blessing. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.680 So um, you know for me, I learned, you know, 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.280 how to be selfless an extremely extremely young age. How 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.440 to what true gratitude is. They extremely engaged because of 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.840 what I went through and so, um, you know when 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.320 when I was growing up, UM, my mom and my dad, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.960 you know, they they they they did some things that 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:48.000 that were true acts of selfless, self selflessness and so um, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.320 around the edge of eleven, my parents adopted three special 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.240 needs kids, and UM, you know it's kind of a 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.960 unique situation for us because you know, the disease that 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.360 they had was extremely, extremely rare. Um. Only one of 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.800 the set of children hadn't in the world. Um, And 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:10.960 so that that pushed my parents into you know, one 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.920 to twenty five thirty doctor suppointments a week, um, just 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.600 to you know, be able to get the kids to 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.360 the proper help that they need to get them. Um, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.160 you know, you know, started and then get them the 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.200 helpers they needed it. So, you know, you know, going 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.240 through all that stuff and that that that was a 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.560 time where you know, my parents were letting on me 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:32.760 a lot, given that I was the oldest. So you know, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.000 I was the kid that you know basically you know, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.320 my parents anytime they needed anything, anytime needed um, you know, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.080 you know, things should be done. You know, I was 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.200 the oldest shot I was just wanted everybody was looking to. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.280 And so you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't say it 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.760 was a setback. I would say it was a blessing 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.000 because you know that at that age, you know, it 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.320 really really forced me to be you know what what 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.280 what you guys see on the field now, which is 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.920 you know the product of a of a kid that's 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.800 a go getter, of a kid that that just goes out, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.559 um and just and just get you foretell um. And 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.920 And for me, you know, I've always been a self starter. Um. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.960 You know, I've never been somebody that that that needs 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.760 to be started. You know, I've always been a guy 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.040 that's that's been the first thing to build it, last 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.480 one out. But I think that's a direct by product 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.920 of this how I came up and I had to 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.679 go through as a kid, and you know, you know, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.600 early on, you know I was you know, I took 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.160 you all talk like I raised three kids already, because 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.319 you know, you just got to grow up fast. Um, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.280 you know, you know, going through that type of situation 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.120 and my parents, you know, basically you know, being from 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.120 one lifestyle to a complete a completely other type of lifestyle. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.920 And so um, you know for that for us, you know, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.839 it was it was definitely a unique situation. Um, and 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.040 there's definitely a situation that it's mold to me and 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:54.120 made me who I am today. I can't attend that's strong. Sure, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:10:03.839 thank you? Sure? All right? So I love that video. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.400 I knew a little bit about Kenneth Murray's story, but 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.080 when I saw that and how he responded, I just 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.800 said to myself, Man, what a great quality guy. And 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.440 something Jason Garrett used to talk about is you're having 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.240 the right kind of people in the building. And I 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.240 know the Mavericks when they draft guys, they were somebody, Hey, 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.480 we want a right kind of guy here, and you 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.520 guys are former players here. When you hear a story 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.439 like that about a guy like Kenneth Murray, that's a 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.520 dude that you root for if he comes onto your 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.400 football team. Oh definitely. I mean that's a guy. I mean, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.960 that's a grown man right there. I mean that's a 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.840 guy who had to grow up at an early age. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.920 Like you said, his family adopted and on three children 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.679 with special needs. And I know how hard that is, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.480 you know, growing up with siblings having special needs. I mean, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.840 my sister has down central now and she's had obviously 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.400 her whole life, and uh, it's hard, it's hard to 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.160 grow up like that. And um and he had to 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.600 grow up as a as a as a young as 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.040 a young adult, and that just shows the maturity level 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.559 in him. And what also kind of caught my attention 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.120 was how he kind of said he was a self motivator, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.880 kind of a self starter. I mean, you know, the 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.839 coaches get paid a lot of money to motivate their 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.199 teams to go out there and played at the highest level. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.520 But if you got a guy like that who can 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.520 just go out there and lead himself and motivate himself 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.079 to play for the name on the back of his jersey, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.520 I mean, those are the type of guys you want 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.000 in the locker room. Those are the type of guys 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.360 that you want to go to war with. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.920 I think I think the story is amazing and uh 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.040 new he just gives Jason Garrett some some props on 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.440 the type of guys that can bring it to the 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:29.520 locker room. Okay, all right, all right, all right, knew 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.200 he knew. I think things changed during the coronavirus, man. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:33.800 I think things are changed a little bit. I think 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.600 that the quarantine. Quarantine has you changed a little bit, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.199 But yeah, I mean I like the guy. I love 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.880 the story. Um, being battle tested when you come into 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.760 the league is something that is that is like really 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.360 an advantage, especially when you step on the field with 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.080 some of those grown men that have been there before, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.160 and some of those guys have the same story and 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.760 they're motivated the same way as you are. So being 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.360 on that same playing field when you step into the 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.320 league is big. And I think him being self motivated 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.880 and being able to want to go out there and 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.120 learn things on his own and watch film on his own, 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.240 I think that will turn him into one of those 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.880 leaders on the field as soon as he steps into 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.720 the locker room. So hopefully he's one of those guys 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.880 that we were really looking at and and possibly can 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:21.480 get into that locker room soon. Church. Take me back 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.000 to you and your sister. So I didn't know this. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.280 Murray talked about being selfless. Um, how did that translate 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.480 for you as you were growing up with with your 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.480 sister and how your parents dealt with you guys, and 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.400 you know you at times having to step up and 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.679 become selfless. Oh, I had to at an early age 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.120 just because um, you know, with with with people who 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.199 have Down syndrome, I mean they need more attention, they 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.360 need more care going through it through their life. So me, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.800 at a young age, I had to learn to not 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.680 be as as as selfish and you know, I want 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.320 this toy or I want that, or how come she 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.280 gets this or how come she gets that? I had 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.200 to learn that, you know, she was born different and 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.199 she needs more care, she needs more attention. So that 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.640 kind of made me grow up early as a as 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.080 a young man and kind of take care of my 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.800 sister as well with my parents because both of my 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.920 parents were working all day, so in the summertime, it 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.800 was basically just me and my sister there So and 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.560 my grandmother. But we had to, you know, learn to 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.880 be with each other and learn to take care of 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.280 each other. And it's it's a huge. It's huge to 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.960 be able to take care of your sibling like that 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.200 who has Down central when who have special needs. I mean, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.520 it's it's huge. It just gets it's that that bond 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.079 that you guys share is it's amazing. Danny McCrae, So 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.640 I want you to give me your thought process on 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.040 what we're seeing from the Cowboys here to interview a 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.120 guy like Kenneth Murrick. Keneth Orror's going to be a 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.240 first round. If he's not a first round, people will 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.600 definitely fall early in the second. He won't fall any 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.240 further than that. This leads me to think about the 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.400 Cowboys and the possibility of them playing a three to four. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.520 Scott McCurley is the new linebackers coach. McCurley has some 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.040 experience up there with Don Cabride when they were running 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.040 three four concepts with the Green Bay Packers. So you 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.600 tell me, what do you think the Cowboys are gonna 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.400 do and do they have enough linebackers because right now 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.719 you check out that roster a lot of one year 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.200 deals to talk about linebackers on this football team. Is 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.880 this a place where they need to go? Uh? Yeah. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.400 If they're gonna run a three four, I believe that 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.320 they would definitely need more linebackers, and I think them 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.199 input into three four will get them more versatility as 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.640 they go in and play, and they have some guys 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.240 that can play that position. I want to bring up 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.560 Clay Matthews again this week, but if they running three four, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.160 you can look at that names as a guy, a 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.880 type of guy that they would want on the team. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.320 Maybe not him, but they need some of those guys 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.800 that are able to rush. I love the idea of 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.040 them playing a three four. By the way, Sean Lee 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.680 played his best football for Rob Bryan when we ran 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.000 a three four, and I think he would welcome that 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.840 as well. Yeah, I think I think a three changing 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.000 the three four would would be amazing. And we do 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.440 need to get more more linebackers. I don't know if 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.600 it would be like, you know, your prototypical linebacker that 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.400 can you know, cover and all that other stuff, But 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.200 if you're gonna get a three to four, I think 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.560 the ends, the outside linebackers need to be more of 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.440 kind of like a von Miller type where they're basically 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.440 small defensive nas that can rush the pass or you 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.720 don't see them dropping back a lot, but they can 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.400 have the ability to do that. So I say, um, yeah, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:08.960 I would agree that they need a little bit more 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.920 versatility in the lineback and core if they're gonna run 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.800 some of these elements of the three four. All right, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:18.280 then that brings me to m Zach Baalton. That's another 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.680 interview they did that they put up on the website, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.360 a smaller guy from from Wisconsin if you were just 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.800 trying to run a four three, but the three to 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.880 four that that could be. I just remember when Bill 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.480 Parcells was here running at three four. They had a 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.600 lot of linebackers. I mean they were constantly bringing in 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.520 a lot of guys. And just when I think about 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.560 the number of linebackers, you're having a four three versus 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.160 three four, cowboys gonna have enough, right, Yeah, they don't 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:44.240 have enough? Got Church. Oh, I was just wondering, So 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.960 like when you say linebacker, are you thinking more of 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.560 like a Sean Lee Tite linebacker or like a DeMarcus 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.120 Ware who was considered a linebacker but he was really 0:15:52.200 --> 0:16:00.800 kind of a d n both called calling those guys 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.520 that do wear them. I'm calling those guys Russians. I 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.760 did not like Spence. Anthony Spencer and DeMarcus Ware were 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.280 labeled as linebackers. Those guys were rush ends in our scheme. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.800 It was very rare that you would see them drop 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.240 out to cover the flat or cover the curl, and 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.520 we would only do that just to disguise maybe once 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.000 a game. Those guys are are Russians and they could 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.920 play in a four to three as a Russian as well. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.760 So when I know you're talking about linebackers, but I'm 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.920 thinking about guys who can rush the pastor I think 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.040 our linebackers that we have now would be good for 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.760 three or four. We just need to add a little 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.560 bit of depth. But it's rushing wise. You can never 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:43.160 have enough pass rushers. Okay, So linebackers obviously they're talking 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.320 to you, mean defensive needs are there. We know there's 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.240 a defensive need there across on that side of the ball, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.640 and a lot of one year contracts. Another player that 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.120 I want to bring up that they did a video 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.320 conferencing with which I found an in Russian player of 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.040 ray Kuon Davis, and he played defensive line for Alabama. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.840 One of the best defense to coaches in football, Nick Sabans. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.520 On that side of the ball, he's won a national 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.159 championship there. Let's listen to a bit of his conversation 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.080 with the counsels. Tell me, tell me about you getting 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.840 your degree from the universe, held out on what that 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.640 means to you. Number where he came from, and talk 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.800 to me. Yeah, sir, I mean a lot, because you know, 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.040 as I was saying earlier, I mean when I'm from 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.359 we didn't winn't have a role. Nobody my family do 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.840 it like ever did it. So I'm like the literally 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:32.080 first one that's bunch of the nfl um graduated. You know, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.520 this just the first person to do it in my family. 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.120 So it's like it's a it's a thig achieve Yeah, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.080 so coach was pretty coach, It was pretty excited. Ye 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:46.360 how about how about miss Moseley, sir? Can you talk 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.359 about her real quick? Um? She she was just that, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.040 you know, she was that lady that just kept me 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.320 out of like she she didn't care like she she 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.359 didn't care about none of this. She like my senior 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.840 year we had like we played Clint Mississippi, and um, 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.359 she's suspending me for the game. I've seen you and 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.720 she told me That's what I finally realized, Like she 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.080 didn't she don't care about She just she cared about 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.480 me as a person. And try to best men. You 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.640 care about football. You played with a lot of good players. Okay, 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.800 if you could take one of them with you to 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.160 be a player on Sunday. Now, not your best friend, Okay, 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.680 I'm talking about somebody to help us win, you know 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.520 what I mean? Who would that guy be to help 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:34.040 help us win? That guy, I say, Nick said, take 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:44.560 your coach. We got a good coach. You just said 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:51.640 the wrong thing because he's up next. Baby. That's awesome. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:19:02.960 Rapond is Garry Jones. That's the best way to ask 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.040 them questions. I mean, I mean all my all my teammates, man, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:10.320 ain't they? Um? They they literally play on Sundays, so 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:15.320 that that question places are and it's a good aswer. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:21.920 That wasn't good aswer? All right? So that's ray Kwon 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:26.120 Davis of Alabama, a guy that the Cowboys are talking to. Now, 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.240 some people are saying they don't like the fact that 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.199 the Cowboys are putting these interviews up there, that they 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.119 think that they're they're showing them too much. That already 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.920 came up here on our Twitter page here. I don't 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.000 believe it's a big deal because teams all know who 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.640 talks to who. If you have your thirty visits, everybody's 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.080 gonna know who the Cowboys are bringing in anywhere. I 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.439 don't think it's a big deal, do you Democrat? Now? 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.320 I don't. I don't think it's a big deal. Um 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.960 do it? And and this is the time when they win. Anyways, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.080