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Sign up today. 29 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is tied for first place 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: in the NFC Sound Welcome back to another edition of 31 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Janzas, 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sesler, 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosa. Dold's up boys. Hey, what 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: is happening? Thursday show? Thursday preview show? Mark with a 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: big old grin on his face. How you doing about it? 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I hear bizarre computer sounds in the background. Unprofessional, Well, 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, professionals not. We don't always do professional well, 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: as your wife went after us for a fashion and 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: sometimes things things to get a little blue in here. 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes we're not quite up to code with some other talent. 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: We're trying our best, though, we do what we do. 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Dan is embraced, embracing being a talent, though, 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: like I forgot to bring up his precious research packet, 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: which he can't be bothered to actually ask for on 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: his own. They could just give him one beautiful thing, 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: and he had a Chris Berman like emotional meltdown and 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: I had to run back downstairs. First of all, everything 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you just said was incorrect, right down town. You gotta 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: play it up for the pot. By the way, then 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: bad idea to be ordering your boss around. Well, that's 51 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: why it's all fiction, because I'm smarter than that. And 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: ask me if I have a good company. Let me 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: tell you something I am. What's funny you say that too? 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Did I not scurry downstairs to go get it? You 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: got it? And no, I feel warm now because I 56 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: didn't feel right without it. But when we I was 57 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: doing an NFL Now hit. I don't know if people know, 58 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: but we do these NFL Now news hits every day. 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: We take turns going over there. In addition to the 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: exclusive content we have in here in Studio sixty six, 61 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in NFL Now from around the NFL. 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, I was there and I was asking when 63 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: they were putting the mic on me and everything in 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the earpiece. I said, do does other do other talent 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: do this themselves? Or am I being like a jerk 66 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: by having you put it on put it on me? 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: He's like, most people have it put on them, but 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: they you know, but some people do it themselves. And 69 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: I said, you don't have to worry about being a 70 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: prima Dona. And I was like, well, like eighteen months 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: away from being prima, don't worry. Maybe sooner than that. 72 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Signals were gathering, alright, fifteen to eighteen months. All right, 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: So this is the big Thursday show TV behind the Glass. 74 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back buddy. You uh, you ducked out, took a 75 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: took a little bit of a sick day to go 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: to visit the doctor. Are you okay? You're mess with me? 77 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Got problems? That's all I know? Oh little j J. 78 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: That's that's great, That's all it is. I mean, we 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: had Zach Dresser here doing his best e J man 80 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: of impressing a lot of show and you know this 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: goes totally against HR standards. But what was wrong with you? What? 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: What's your illness? Well we can talk about that person. 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, z Drizzle did a great 84 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: job and and you. I'm glad you're still with us. 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: That that J. J. Watt dropped. That was from inside 86 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, and that was during a stretching before that 87 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Texans Titans wipe out on Sunday. That is an instant 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: iconic sound bit. What is it? We have the singletary one. 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: It's similar. It's in that club. I like that kind 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: of I think it's already in that group. And I tweeted, 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: and this time I knew it was a good tweet 92 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: because the old Greg ster over here, the boss, retweeted me, 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: you test my taste. I do. I do when when 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: he's inducted into Canton in about you know, sixteen or 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: seventeen years or whatever, they will play that clip. Guaranteed, 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: the snow Caps part. I don't know about the snow 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Caps part. That to me didn't carry as much fire 98 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: as the as this knows. All I know is you're 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: mess with me problems. That's that's all I know. That's 100 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: so good. I like that kind of alright, So yeah, 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: good job there, Welcome back, t D and Mark. If 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: you have any other personal questions, you want to get 103 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: them out right now. First questions, I got a lot 104 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: of questions about TV. This is our big preview show. 105 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all the Sunday games and of 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: course the Monday night game. But before that, you know you, 107 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: we talked about the A team with the B team 108 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: the C team for the first time the season. A 109 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: Rosenthal hands this joint. It's called the X teams. It's 110 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: the X factor. We're gonna throw it, throw up the 111 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: X and do the The Rockefell assigned because we handled 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the Thursday night game Cowboys Bears. So I guess I 113 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: throw it to myself, all right. So there it is. 114 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys back in the win column. On Thursday 115 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: Night beat the Chicago Bears. Great excited win, a game 116 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: in which the recipe to avoid a December collapse, apparently 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: for Jason Garrett was give de Marco Murray the ball 118 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: again and again and again and again. He sets a 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: career high in both carries and receptions in the game, 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: and he got the job done. He basically, uh did 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: the work, the heavy lifting, and a big win for 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Murray is so valuable to this team in 123 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: so many ways, but part of it is because he 124 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: makes life so much easier on the defense. I mean, 125 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: he had twenty four touches in the first half. That 126 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: was more than the entire amount of plays that the 127 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Bears have. So you keep this pretty mediocre Cowboys defense 128 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: off the field, you keep Tony Romo mostly dinking and 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: dunking on a night Dan where you kind of noticed 130 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: he didn't look like he was looking to go down 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, he looked a little stiff, especially in 132 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: the first half. I don't know if it was the 133 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: weather or what. And but he ends up with five 134 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: incompletions and three touchdowns and you can't fault their offensive 135 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: performance at all. And you wonder if, like if DeMarco 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: Murray's agent is watching this, like, is he happy that 137 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: his guy is going over two hundred thirty yards from 138 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: scrimmage or is he kind of worried that this guy 139 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: is gonna break down by the end of this year. 140 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: It's all I could think as I was watching and 141 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you said it, he had twenty four touches in the 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: first half. I tweeted at the time that he was 143 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: on pace for fifty in the game. Um, I always thinking, 144 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: is there's no way the Cowboys have any intention on 145 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: giving this guy a big contract they're gonna use every 146 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: ounce of this guy's ability up this season, get all 147 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: the juice out of the tank, and they'll then go 148 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: grab Adrian Peterson in the off season. Uh so, yes, 149 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd be using him in the 150 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: right way. And they continue to, as my mother would say, 151 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: spitting the sky about uh using him so much with 152 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: his injury prone history. It would be a Jerry Jones 153 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: thing actually to give him that huge money and then 154 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: just watch him get hurt. But yeah, I mean, it's 155 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: a it's a dangerous stance they're doing right now, but 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: it's working. And they're not in four They're not gonna 157 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: go eight in Nate. And that is the first time 158 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: that they will not go eight in Nate and four 159 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: seasons or three seasons. Uh, that's a major accomplishment. And 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: it sets up if the Eagles can't take care of 161 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: business at home, he gets the Seahawks. That sets up 162 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: a huge Week fifteen matchup with FC East on the 163 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: line or the lead on the line. So the Cowboys 164 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: took care of business. Bead Bears team, This Bears stink. 165 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: They're awful. You said it. You can't believe they have 166 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: five wins this season. They can't. I their defense is 167 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: so bad. And then the offense, you know, they lost 168 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall to a what looked like a serious rib injury, 169 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: ends up going to the hospital. He tweets later that 170 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: he's okay, so we don't know what his long term 171 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: issue is. But you look at Jake Cutler in the 172 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: offense and you're not quite sure why it's not doing well. 173 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: You can't really point to Cutler's night and say, oh, 174 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: he played really poorly. You know, I didn't play that poorly. 175 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: But suddenly it's thirty five to seven late in the 176 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: third quarter, and that's kind of been what's happened in 177 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: every Bears game. Yeah, and they did that move when 178 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: they actually almost made a game of it later Epic 179 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Fantasy a lot of garbage points, but they almost made 180 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: a game of it because they got two quick touchdowns. 181 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: And then when they closed it within ten and there 182 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: were about six minutes to play, and he thought, oh, 183 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: they could kick it off, get a stop here, maybe 184 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: get the ball back at it to one score, but instead, uh, 185 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: trustman calls for another on sidekick, which I thought was 186 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: silly but also showed that this was almost like that move. 187 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: And when you're playing video games against someone that's much 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: better than you, and you know they're gonna score on 189 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: you and Matt and so you just your only chance, 190 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: basically is the go for it on every fourth down 191 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: and always on side kick it. And it didn't work 192 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: out that the Cowboys recovered the second or the third 193 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: on sidekick, and the game is essentially over right. I mean, 194 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I agreed with you that they should have just kicked 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: it off, but you have to get a stop. And 196 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys scored on seven straight possessions before they kneeled 197 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: down at the end of the game, so they didn't 198 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: have they didn't have to stop since the middle of 199 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: the first quarter. You can't really blame Trustman for what 200 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: he did. And yet the Cowboys are still yelling at 201 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: each other on the sidelines constantly. What is going on 202 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: is furious. I don't know if it's because he didn't 203 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: score touchdown for the second straight game or what, but 204 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: he's furious. Or Lando Scandrick that he could have he 205 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: could have been committed. If there was a a psychologist 206 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: or some type of someone in the mental health field 207 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: on this, they would have locked them up. Uh to 208 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: Marca Murray yelling at people. It's a very emotional. This 209 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: was like their Super Bowl. They climbed them out in 210 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: nine wins. That's what they've been aiming for. I do 211 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: want to give Garrett credit before we get out of here. 212 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Quickly goes for it on fourth and one two times 213 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: in the red zone on Dallas's first touchdown. Draft that 214 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: was nice show a little gumption here. And then I 215 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: also think this has been the most predictable team in 216 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: the in the league. They always take care of the 217 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: bad teams. Washington is the one exception here that they 218 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: usually win somewhat convincingly against the bad team. So they're 219 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of a team that's taking care of business. They've 220 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: lost to the good teams. They beat the bad teams. 221 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: And you know, let's give Garrett a little credit. And 222 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: you you were giving me problems for picking the Cowboys 223 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: too much this season. Listen, Cowboys doing them quite well. 224 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: But they're not gonna be good teams. So they go 225 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: to Philly, they lose that, They play the Colts, they 226 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: lose that, and that sets up a nail biter trip 227 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: to Washington to finish the season. All about that, we'll 228 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: see about that. In fact, I think the Cowboys will 229 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: win next week. That's a discussion for another podcast. Alright, 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: that's it for the Thursday Night discussion. Let's set it 231 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: back to the group. Alright, So that is it. That's 232 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:17,239 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Extreme Takes by Hot Takes x X Takes. 233 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: We are now going to get to the Sunday games 234 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: and this is now no more buys. Uh. Last week 235 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: there weren't anybody's either were there? They were not, But 236 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: there were three Thursday games, so they kind of lightened 237 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: the Sunday load. A big, big, big Sunday grouping of games. 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: So we got a lot of games to get to. So, 239 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, I know sometimes we get a little off track. 240 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: We have to do our best to get through these 241 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: games without giving people a seventeen hour podcast. I think 242 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: we could do it, though. I have faith. Stop being 243 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: so windy, West, you know, just on and on you. 244 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: You should have Dr Seter check that out, West. That'll 245 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: be fine, that'll be fine from you. All right, let's 246 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: get into Sunday and we'll start with the New England Patriots, 247 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: who are coming off that tough loss at Lambeau. Had 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: played pretty well but not good enough to win. Now 249 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: they head to San Diego to face the team of 250 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: around the NFL, the s Indigo Chargers, coming off that 251 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: great comeback win over the Ravens. Uh, this is a 252 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: very good matchup and I'm not afraid to say it, 253 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit ashamed. Do we have our 254 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: meritor trade? Uh? What do we call the challenge? Confident 255 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: challenges TD American confident call? Thank you very much, confident call. 256 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: I had my confident call in the Patriots and now 257 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm like thinking, I think the Chargers might win this game. 258 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I I gotta got a bit of Assessly, the Charges 259 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: are gonna show up and play very well in their building? 260 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: Am I crazy? I think you're overthinking it. I mean 261 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: New England went into Green Bay and very nearly won 262 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: that game, or at least four Starreon Rogerson what would 263 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: have been a two minute thrial to win it for 264 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: green Bay. They played, they have been on absolute fire 265 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: and the Charges, I think their offense looked very good 266 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: against Baltimore. Their secondary can be carved up though. Robin 267 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Kelsey is gonna do fine. New England has this thing. 268 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me if the Chargers are 269 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: right in the game. Anytime you have a quarterback as 270 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: good as Philip Rivers, I have him as a top 271 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: five quarterback this year going against the team that really 272 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: cannot rush the passer that well one on one. I 273 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: know the Chargers offensive line has struggled, but I do 274 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: think that's a problem for the Patriots. Belichick has been 275 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: good at being creative, but Rivers is excellent and kind 276 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: of recognizing what the defense is doing. It wouldn't surprise 277 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: me if they put up thirty points on the Patriots. 278 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Patriots are thirty two and four over the last five years. 279 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: In the second half of the season, Rivers isn't much worse, though. 280 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: It's create rivers record in December is almost as good 281 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: as Brady. Not against Tom Brady, it isn't. I think 282 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots are out of the Chargers league right now, 283 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: h I think the Patriots play against teams like the 284 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: Packers and Broncos, and the Chargers play against teams like 285 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Can the Chargers afford to lose this game? 286 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: Or is this base their schedules? Brutal playoffs are bus 287 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: scenario right now? All of these teams with five losses, 288 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I think they can lose one more. The Chargers have 289 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: a have a tough one week after week, so you'd 290 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: love to take care of your home ones. But no, 291 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go. They're gonna have to beat 292 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City, They're gonna have to beat Denver probably later 293 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: in the year. It's a very tough road here for 294 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: the team of a TL. Let's do England's weakness. I 295 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: was about to ask the same question. I mean, you 296 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: sound like you're convinced, and you always started spinning because 297 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: we know the Chargers have weaknesses and we know Bill 298 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Belichick can exploit weaknesses. The it's not a great pass 299 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: rush right now. If they get Chandler Jones back for 300 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: this game, that would be fantast don't matter if you 301 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: have a great pass rush when you face the charges, 302 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: don't you know you ask for a weakness if you 303 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: want to make one. They're not really hitting on vertical 304 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: throws this year at all. I mean, they don't have 305 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: anyone it's gonna beat you deep and Tom Brady hasn't 306 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: hit on those. If if you're looking for weaknesses, I mean, 307 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: it's not a they're not huge weaknesses. It will take 308 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: a running back that we've never heard of. Someone who 309 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: literally has never played, have a prediction. Who will be 310 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Troy Brown. By the way, t the If the Chargers 311 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: do win this game, let's lock it in and make 312 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: a note of it to play the entire San Diego 313 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Supercharger song left to earn it. We're not gonna play 314 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: it just to be willy nilly. But if they take 315 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: down the paths, every one will be back in, including 316 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: West West. The Chargers show up in a big way 317 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: and spank the Pats. You're on right, You know, I 318 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: don't take ex girlfriends back. That's not even true. I don't. 319 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't believe your history says otherwise. You know, maybe 320 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: just like a night or a couple of nights here 321 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: or there. You know what I'm saying. You know it? 322 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: The Chargers, the Chargers here. Would they get you excited? 323 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: At least when when you turned on that game rewind 324 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: last week and you watched that Ravens game, I mean, 325 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: you had to be impressions got me excited. You have 326 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: to be impressed with the heart that the that the 327 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: Chargers on offense especially showed a lot of firepower there. Yeah, 328 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers had a good game. He pulled the team 329 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: out of the fun Keenan Allen is going to the 330 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Then we have the Patriots in the segment. 331 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I can't wait till Sunday. 332 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Let's move on. This is uh, this next game might 333 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: be the game of the week. Actually, the Seattle Seahawks, 334 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: who are they seem to be potentially rounding into two 335 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen form right now. This will be a big 336 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: test to see if they're all the way back. They're 337 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: heading to Philly to face the Genius and the Eagles. 338 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: The Eagles, of course, spanked the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. That 339 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: was an impressive win as well. I mean those both 340 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: teams played on Thanksgiving and both played very well in 341 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: a really nice wins. So now they face off. Will 342 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: be a big test for Mark Sanchez, of course, who's 343 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: had the schedule God's with him a little bit um 344 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: since becoming a starter. This is a real test and 345 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, a big test to see how they 346 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: can handle a real NFC contender on the road. Your thoughts, guys, 347 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: I think it's cool that we get to see this 348 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: matchup now. Had it been back in Week four or 349 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: five when Seattle was kind of figuring itself out and 350 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: going through injuries last two weeks. Seattle's defense, as we've 351 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: said a number of times on this show, looks absolutely 352 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: lights out as good as last year's. And we're getting 353 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: that against an Eagle's offense that's firing all on all cylinders, 354 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: finally running the ball the way that we expect them too. 355 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: So that alone makes this a great watch. Bobby Wagner, 356 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: I think makes the biggest difference of any change that 357 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: we've seen in the Seattle defense. I mean, he might 358 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: be the most valuable player on that defense, and him 359 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: back in the lineup has really changed everything they've done. 360 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: I've heard that theory several other places, and I don't 361 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: know how you separate Bobby Wagner from Byron Maxwell and 362 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: Cam Cam Chancellor. Chance looks better too, came back at 363 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: the same time, and the defense just got cohesive. I 364 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I say it because I watched watching the Cardinals game. 365 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: In the forty Niners game, Bobby Wagner is all over 366 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: the field, You're right, Maxwell, and Chancellor looks better too. 367 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean that Kevin Williams is playing great too, right, 368 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: and but Wagner, Wagner is just one of the best, 369 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, ball pursuit sort of run stopping middle linebackers 370 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: out there by the one stat I'm just looking over 371 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: some numbers. Remember this went well into the regular season, 372 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: but Lashawn McCoy, we talked about what a bad season 373 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: he was having. Also, you look up, he's got over 374 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: a thousand yards through thirteen games and averaging over four 375 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: yards to carry four touchdowns. This guy's back and that's 376 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: a big reason why the Eagles are able to win 377 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: with Mark Sanchez. Also, since Lane Johnson's return right tackling 378 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: Week five, McCoy is averaging more rushing yards per game 379 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: than he did last year in his career year right, 380 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: we were saying the c X defense is back, but 381 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, they just played Drew Stanton and a San 382 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: Francisco back. I know they are back, but they also 383 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: just played Drew Stanton, who you know you've seen. Their 384 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: defense got taken care of by Atlanta for for fifty 385 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: nine minutes at three points, and then they played Colin Kaepernick, 386 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: who couldn't score more than seventeen points against Washington weeks. 387 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Is impressive. I mean, I don't care who, it's totally impressive. 388 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is we are going up a major 389 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: step in class here, right, But we've seen this same 390 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: defense with the personnel they have now shut down the 391 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league week after week after week. 392 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: Let's not bury the lead. Isn't this really Mark Sanchez? Finally? 393 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, Greg, you said it downstairs. He hasn't faced 394 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: many defenses. Now he is, and I think we've also talked. 395 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: He looks completely different to me. It looks like he's 396 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: getting good coaching for the first time in his career. 397 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: He's not perfect, but but if he played this way 398 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: for the Jets in the last couple of years, they 399 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: never would have let him go. But this is a 400 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: different team and that's why he's playing differently. But man up, 401 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: agin Seattle. We're gonna find out if he's prone to 402 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: turnovers and mistakes. This is our only two three split 403 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: of the week. Both Greg and patrack picked the Eagles. 404 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: The rest of us take the Seahawks, So I feel 405 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: bad for Greg and Patrick. Greg can fall further down, 406 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: by the way. Another reminder, four way tie a top 407 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: two standings. Right, news flash, you can't win a Super Bowl. 408 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't think with wide receivers combining your starting wide 409 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: receivers have combined for under ninety yards the last two weeks, 410 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: and the best players can we rewind the last December 411 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: when you were saying the exact same thing about the 412 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks pass. They improved quite a bit down the stretch. 413 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: But I just find it hard. The best plays Russell 414 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: Wilson makes every week are dump offs. The running backs 415 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: are totally improv plays. I just think it's gonna be 416 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: hard to win a Super Bowl that way. All right, 417 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: let's move on to the Monday night game. This will 418 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: be a game between the Atlanta Falcons and the Green 419 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. And by the way, and Mark Ceely, I 420 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: know you're excited because you know what this is all about, 421 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: to first place teams squaring off, well, mighty soaring Falcons 422 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: and the mighty Packer's thing. A lot of people want 423 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: to talk about green Bay full opra there. But you're 424 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: right though, like, let's not everyone, oh shina light on 425 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: green Bay. It's the Falcons. We need to get excited about. 426 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: What what ex I do about the Falcons. They're They're 427 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: a powerhouse South. You love those domes fall down. I'm 428 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: just trying to help the segment out general drizzle was 429 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: trying to sell this as a trap game. Come on, 430 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: it's in Lambeau. Oh yeah, if it was in Atlanta, 431 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe to me, I think this is. But it's a 432 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: thirty three to nothing at half. But guess what the 433 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: country gets to watch Aaron Rodgers. The Falcons did, to 434 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: their credit, just put up five yards in the Cardinals, 435 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: who have been a really good defense. When I watched 436 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: that performance, I thought that must be the best Atlanta 437 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: offensive performance of the year. I mean, they were going 438 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: up and down the field, and Julio Jones had one 439 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: of the best games you'll ever see out of a 440 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Why doesn't need you then every week? Maybe 441 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: they're a little dangerous. I don't know. He needs Patrick 442 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Peterson to play like that. I guess you're not gonna 443 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: get Steven Jackson to do We did what he did 444 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: last weekend for a number of reasons, because Antonio Cromarti 445 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: doesn't play for the Packers, and oh that was a 446 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: business decision. And Roddy White, by the way, we've entered 447 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: the phase of Roddy White's career now where he seems 448 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: to be perpetually banged up. He didn't practice on Thursday, 449 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: so we don't know if he'll be in the game, 450 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: if he'll be himself, So it will be up to 451 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Julio Jones and and Harry Douglas who has done some things, 452 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: or last week he did, so I don't know. This 453 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: seems like a game that's tilted way in the Green 454 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: Bay's favor, and honestly, I won't pick them against them 455 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: ever for the rest of the season, but especially if 456 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: they're at Lambeau. I am not picking up They're going 457 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: to the NFC title again. This is a mere inconvenience 458 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: along the way, all right, As you can imagine, we 459 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: all picked the Packers, except for Mark. He took the Falcons. 460 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: Not true. Okay, we move on to Cincinnati. This is 461 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: a game uh an a f C North, major major 462 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: implications obviously because we have uh this group he talked 463 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: about on Wednesday's podcast. I think we were split about 464 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: who's gonna win that North. I took the Bengals. I 465 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: believe the rest of you guys will pick the Steelers. 466 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: So this game obviously has huge implications. Uh. The Steelers 467 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: coming off really a dreadful performance at home and a 468 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: loss to the Saints, and the Bengals. They squeaked one 469 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: out against the Bucks, got some help on a bizarre play, 470 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: bizarre twelve men on the field call at the end 471 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: um survived the bad Dalton first half. So now these 472 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: two teams square off West. I'm pretty sure you you 473 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: feel the Steelers are gonna take care of business here. 474 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton hasn't done well against Dick Lebau defenses. He's 475 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: won two out of six games since he was drafted 476 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: against the Steelers, and I think Lebou does a really 477 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: good job of taking away a J Green. When you 478 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: take away a J Green, Andy Dalton doesn't know where 479 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: to go to go with the ball. As long as 480 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Like Taylor's not involved. I like the the year long storyline. 481 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh wait till like Taylor's back for the Steelers. Well, 482 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know people who are kind of okay, They're 483 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna get some people back later in the season. Taylor 484 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: gets on the field and he gets flamed on came 485 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: last week, came dancing out of the tunnel with a 486 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: terrible tower over his face like an outlaw. It's like 487 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: he got burned. Get that guy off the field. Kenny 488 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: Stills killed. I mean, he had a rough game. I 489 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: have a hard time I trust the Steeler's offense to 490 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: bounce back and have a nice effort than I do 491 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Dick lebo and the Steelers defense to slow them down, 492 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: just because I don't know where the plays are coming 493 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: from that Steelers defense lately. I think for me, it 494 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: was just that we've seen the Steelers go up and down. 495 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Last week was down in the in the Bengals have 496 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: been up for too long. It's gonna come. Well, they 497 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: gotta win. But it was down, That's what I'm saying. 498 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: Maybe that that was the roller coaster tipping down. This 499 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: is Pittsburgh's ski. I think they're going to sweep the 500 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: Bengals this season. I hold in my hands, gentlemen. The 501 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen season Week fourteen research notes, Oh, thank 502 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: you to day and here's a great one. Despite and 503 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: this is for the Bengals haters, which they're plentiful in 504 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: this room. Despite their eight three and one record, the 505 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Bengals have the NFL seventeenth best point differential. The Bengals 506 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: have only outscored opponents in one of the four quarters 507 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: this season, in the second quarter. Maybe they can play 508 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: this whole game in the second WHOA, that's a very 509 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: useful stat They gotta get it. Maybe they'll draft a 510 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: quarterback this year. They have a lot of talent. I mean, 511 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: they do have a lot of talent to talk to. 512 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll draft a quarterback. You know who's been good 513 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: for them before. Raymond Luga has added a lot. He's 514 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: not usually a guy that I think of as a 515 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: great player, but since he's come back in the lineup, 516 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: he's been on fire for them. Their run defense is 517 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: much better than it was, but now Davian Bell has 518 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: a chance. Walter Payton is the only players in the 519 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: history of the NFL three straight games, two ords from scrimmage. 520 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: They trust their defensive lines so much. There was a 521 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: story where Josh McCown basically had a quote this week 522 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: where he said the secondary just hung on routes all 523 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: day long because we knew the front seven would take 524 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: care of business. I mean, there's a lot of talent 525 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. No one's knocking him Dan, it's just that 526 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton five touchdowns, seven Pickswe he's gonna melt down. Well, 527 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: this is their chance to show there a real team. 528 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: Because it's my big it's my theory that that the 529 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: Steelers are the ultimate. They're a better fantasy team this 530 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: year than they are a reality team. It's like you 531 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: never know what they're gonna be quartered a quarter. You 532 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: don't even think that's a theory that's true. So maybe 533 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals will win this, but I'm going Steelers, all right. 534 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: We almost forgot Defend your Hero. It's the part of 535 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: the show every Thursday where one of us went against 536 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: the grain and picked a team that no one else picked. 537 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: I picked the Bengals in this game, perhaps not surprising. 538 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm a Bengals guy. Don't know how this happened in 539 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: my life, but that's how things have worked out. It's 540 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: how things shake out. Andy Dalton, he gotta like that 541 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: with eyebrows made out of fire, is the guy I 542 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: believe in, and I think he's gonna take care of 543 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: business in this game against the Steelers, because I think 544 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals, with the exception of that that Brown stinker, 545 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: which I I rule an outlier, it was a Bengal 546 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: sticker stinker, not a Brown that. I apologize a lot 547 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: of brown stinkers over the years, But I think the 548 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is a great home team despite that one game 549 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: over the past two seasons, so I think they'll take 550 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: a take a win. And also I don't believe in 551 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: the Steelers, can't do it, can't get behind them. This 552 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: might be there and playing with them. This might be 553 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: the heaviest favorite hero pick of the year. Not that 554 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: we measure how heavy the favorite is, but the fan 555 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: consensus is with you two over six of America. But 556 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: the Bengals, well, the fan consensus been better than us 557 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: this year. So usually I would say, well, that doesn't 558 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: make me feel better, but yeah, we can't knock him, 559 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: all right, So that is one hero pick. The next 560 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: time I'm at your house, we're gonna stage an intervention. 561 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: If you think you're a Bengals fan, now definitely not. 562 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: You can bring over your dossier. The dossier will come out, 563 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: and I will convince you that you are a misled 564 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: young man. I've actually only heard the word dossier in 565 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: reference to Bengal to anti being propaganda from West. It's 566 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: not propaganda in the least. I have a grotesque, unconditional 567 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: love for the Jets. But if something ever happened where 568 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the Jets weren't around anymore, I you could you could 569 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: bet a lot that I would pick a franchise with 570 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: some nice history to them, because I need to get 571 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: on a winner before I die. Yeah, I'm not going 572 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: with another loser. I want to just hoping from one, 573 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: from one loser bed to another. Exactly, it's a short 574 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: ride up to Foxboro, buddy. Yeah, So I wouldn't go that, right, 575 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: because Tom Brady's getting older, He's gonna couple of years 576 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: and that he's gonna be on five rings. His little 577 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: cruise six daughter is already a Jets fan because she 578 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: can see I have a long life ahead of me. 579 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: I need to be on the right train. According to Mark, 580 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is going to be traded this season somehow 581 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: sto I said a Patriots quarterback and I was incorrect. 582 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. So that's one hero pick. 583 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: We have another hero pick. Uh, and this one made 584 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: me happy because Mark, Mark Sessler, Uh, you have a long, 585 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: long It's been long known that you love the Browns 586 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: and you believe in this team, this seven and five 587 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: outfit with Brian Hoyer still at quarterback. What faith this 588 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: organization has in the veteran passer, the Bruce Springsteen of 589 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: Cleveland working class hero And guess what, none of us 590 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: picked the Browns because we were we were spooked a 591 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: little bit by last week, and only speaking for myself, 592 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: I would have picked the Browns of Manzella was starting 593 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: with still there. I can't do it now. You explain, 594 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: Mr Cessler, if you would, why you picked the Browns. 595 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: Please defend your hero. Well, in the middle of the night, 596 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: I woke up. It was probably two fifty AM, and 597 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: I just was hit with a sensation that said, if 598 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: you have a chance, if you can get into work 599 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: quick enough before that photographer takes that screenshot of our picks, 600 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: I had the Colts switch it over to Cleveland. I thought, 601 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: why would I do this? But you know what, I'm 602 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: tired of Number one. I can slowly feel a the 603 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: newsroom in all of America cruising in and wanting to 604 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: hate on Cleveland now, kind of saying, you've had your 605 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: nice season. Now it's time to shut it down and 606 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: go back and be the eight and eight, six and ten, 607 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: four and twelve team that you really are. It's time 608 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: to hate on the Browns. You know what, This game 609 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: is gonna go one of two ways. The one way 610 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: that scares me is Trent Richardson blows up Josh Cribbs 611 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: run two kicks back and Rob Chazinski is dancing on 612 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: the sideline pointing in everyone. But the other way is 613 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: that the quarterback they stuck with, whether it's him in 614 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: a combination of Manzille, or whether this Mike Petton team 615 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: that has been counted out week after week stands up 616 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: and takes care of the biggest game in Cleveland all 617 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: season and also in decades taste care of business. I'm 618 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: on that train. I got goose bumps. We should play 619 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the Rudy music right now. I believe that they are 620 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: facing the Colts, as we mentioned yesterday, are absolutely on 621 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: fire right now. They're gonna be tough to defend. I 622 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: have to do this. I have to go Cleveland. Don't 623 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: have music ah too bad. By the way, I don't 624 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: know if you guys are picking up on this with 625 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: the Mark right now, but Mark is invested more than 626 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: ever since we've known him in the in the rounds. 627 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: Winning this week. I am a little nervous about what 628 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: could happen on Sunday though, if if the Colts jump 629 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: ahead and things start to take a turn, um the 630 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: quiet storm, uh markets very intense West as you know 631 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: on Sundays. There's nothing like it. I mean it's not 632 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: even Mark. It's like it's a different guy. The feelings 633 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: aren't coming out of him. Well, he ceases to be 634 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and he becomes the quiet Quiet Storm. I'm 635 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: just a little worried. What could happen when people start 636 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: cheering from Manzelle. Well, then Greg will stand up on 637 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: the desk and yell about being group thinkers. And I 638 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: didn't say anything publicly un tell the podcast. They took 639 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: his tea viciously below average. They stole his innocence a 640 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: childlike but not to suggest innocence or purity. They made 641 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: a football life about his misery, control all to leap 642 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: and opened the factory upsetness that never closed. Now the 643 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: climate is right for revenge this winter, there's a hurricane 644 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: coming for anyone who looks in this direction on a Sunday, 645 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: It'll be an apocalyptic sunset. Mark Sessler, did Quiet Store? 646 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: This show cannot end fast enough? And I have a 647 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: sharply worded letter to handle you, my friend. Oh boy, 648 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: that's where you that's the doctor you were at TV. 649 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Well done with the editing there, I Quiet Storm is 650 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: coming in the theater. Did you do that before you 651 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: knew I made a hero pick too. No, it all 652 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: worked out perfectly in this case. But yeah, but my 653 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: point is this could end disastrous. And by the way, 654 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: t D, I'm sure people are gonna want to be 655 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: able to download that, so we'll have to get that 656 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: out to them. We'll be hearing that a few more times. Um, 657 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: I am concerned. I'm just gonna say it. I sit 658 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: across from you. I could feel the energy. Sometimes. I 659 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: hope it doesn't work out that way. I want the 660 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Browns to win for you, but I'm a little nervous. Well, 661 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I also see this movie. If I win and I 662 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: get up on the picks, you can not. This is 663 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: all This is a spectrum game. It's gonna be the 664 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: end of the earth, or it's gonna be glory. Who 665 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: did my wife, who works in casting, who did she 666 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: cast Mark Sessler as in the biopic Joakin Phoenix? Yes? 667 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like that. That's perfect walking through the 668 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: forest or something rain. I love the idea of lacking 669 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: Phoenix this quiet storm. Well, we'll see alright, moving on, 670 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: gotta move on. We could talk about Mark's movie career 671 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: at length in a future podcast, maybe during the offseason. 672 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: But now we got to get to Detroit Ford Field 673 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: to be specific, where the Lions will host the Tampa 674 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Uh the lines, you know, let's let's be 675 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: truthful about it. They are uh right next to the 676 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: Packers in the standings, but none of us really believe 677 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: believe in them. They could they win out, they win 678 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: the division. Uh, we'll see if they end up putting 679 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: up a fight and make that Week seventeen game against 680 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the Packers meaningful. But for now, they play bad Bucks team. 681 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: That's too in ten. They got to take care of business, 682 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: and we assume they will. Right. You'd have to look 683 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: pretty hard to find a more unfair matchups than the 684 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: line's defensive line against the Bucks offensive line. Yes, it's 685 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: nice to see West finally admitting that Josh McCown can't 686 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: save this terrible Bucks team. I never said he would save. 687 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: I stopped. I can't watch this team. And I saw 688 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: the shot you took at me in your quarterback in there. 689 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what Greg's QB index? He did one to 690 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: thirty two. Check that out at NFL dot com. Slash 691 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: does it have a vent? It doesn't, But you can 692 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: just go to a c l or whatever. The bucks. 693 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: You know they are terrible, but they've been in eight 694 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: games decided by I want to know what the shot was, like, 695 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: Why did anyone think going to Josh McCown was gonna 696 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: help Glennan has been better? Did you link to a photo? 697 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: I also wanted to know that I wasn't being biased, 698 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: so I went and checked out QBR, I checked out 699 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, I checked out Football Outside Is. They 700 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: all had glenn and higher two. He's McCown is not. 701 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: It's good. I mean the offensive line is not good either, 702 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: but he's the hell quarterbacks. Josh McCown is not the answer. 703 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he is, but he's not as bad 704 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: as Mike Lennon. What was the shot? I mean, there 705 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: was no other show. You said, Chris Wesley has vehemently 706 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: disagree with me, and then you cited all these staffs 707 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: him up. But West, when the boss speaks out against 708 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: you on a website, you just have to lay down 709 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: and excited. I thought it was a sign of respect 710 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: because it's so rare. We you know, we disagree this much. 711 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: You know, I had to Mark is by far the 712 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: most reverential towards Greg Now I'm just saying that show. 713 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: It's like whatever said call me out on an international website. 714 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: I'd have to say, Wow, maybe I have to rethink 715 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: my own thinking. I trust myself. But Greg is never 716 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: wrong like us. You've turned him into like a I 717 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: don't like. I don't like. Uh so, Yeah, I mean, 718 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: all right, McCown not very good and we might have 719 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: missed another making leave candidate potentially, I think joker. I 720 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: think we went down on the other thing I will 721 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,959 Speaker 1: say is this and I don't think this is the game. 722 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: I said on a Wednesday show, I don't think the 723 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: lines make the playoffs because I think they're gonna pull 724 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: the lines at some point and blow an easy game. 725 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're gonna blow this one though this 726 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: see like West said this, everything seems lined up for 727 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: a blowout. It would be stunning if they didn't win 728 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. Agree, I would be when the Buck's 729 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: solution is going back to Doug Martin just because Charles 730 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: Sims looks like it looks like the running back version 731 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: of Jermaine Gresham or something like. That's what he looks 732 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: like donning back there. They just have no answer. Big 733 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: game last week they put in O'Neil Cousins is an 734 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: extra tight end to establish the run. They put all 735 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: their marbles in and Doug Martin had a good first half. 736 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: He had more yards in the first half than he 737 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: had in any game most season, and he finished the 738 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: game at three point two yards per cary, which is 739 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: an upgrade on Is it his team around him or 740 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: is it Martin? He's is indecisive at the line as 741 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: any running back in the league. I think that has 742 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: to do with timing. If you read an excellent Joe 743 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: Peznavski piece this week on Priest Homes, he talks a 744 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: lot about needing three steps and getting the timing down 745 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: with your offensive lineman. They've had offensive lineman shuffled in 746 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: and out there. But he's also not very quick. There's 747 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: no explosive. If we're gonna say Tampa has a terrible 748 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: line and they do, that's going to affect your running game. Yes, 749 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: of course, Bobby Rainey's averaging four point three yards, but 750 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: when when he was the muscle hamster a couple of 751 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: years ago. Wasn't he quick then? Or is this something 752 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: where he's been slowed injury? But it was a shoulder 753 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: injury that shut him down last year? What happened to 754 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: this guy? And he's to me, he's one of those 755 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: guys that's hard to figure out because he looked like 756 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: a young star and now he just seems like a Jag. 757 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: I agree, he does seem like a jack anyway. So 758 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: that will be a blowout. Let's move on to another one. Uh, 759 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Actually this might not be about the Texans. 760 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Uh six and six and uh listen, I think they're 761 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: still on the mix right now in the a f 762 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: C playoff race because they have the best player in 763 00:36:54,239 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe in J. J. Watts can't be played enough. J. J. Watt, 764 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: who's coming off one of the more dominant games of 765 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: the season. Now he gets to go to Jacksonville face 766 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars team that, let's face it, you know, messed 767 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: up their draft standing a little bit by beating the 768 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: Giants by accident on Sunday. So now the Texans can 769 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: get to seven and six if they take care of business. 770 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: We'll see what version of Ryan Fitzpatrick they get. They 771 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: won't get the guy through six touchdowns on Sunday. I 772 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: think there's some zero pick potential here. We all picked 773 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: the Texans. I thought, I thought hard about the Jaguars. 774 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: I don't see these two teams is two different and 775 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: it's in Jacksonville. Maybe they found something last week a 776 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: little bit with Bordles in the hurry up you look 777 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: good at the end of the game. It just wouldn't 778 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: surprise me if this is one of those kind of 779 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: divisional upset games in Jacksonville. One. Yeah, I agree, wouldn't 780 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: have shocked me either. I mean, I don't think they 781 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: need to. They don't need They don't need a Fitzpatrick 782 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: who throws six touchdowns. They need one who doesn't throw 783 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: any interceptions. And he showed a lot of chemistry with 784 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins last week. And Dan you said it. I 785 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: think every one of us has covered the Texans. It 786 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what game it is this year. J J. 787 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: Watt I would form for m VP. At this point, 788 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: I realized that's a weird thing to do. But like 789 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: every single game, he is single handedly involved in why 790 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: they win. He's scoring touchdowns that even even if they 791 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, and let's say they go nine 792 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: and seven, and what you know, does what he's doing 793 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: and ends up with this outrageous stat line and all 794 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: these wow plays. I know Aaron Rodgers is having a 795 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: great year in this other players that are as well 796 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: as too, but I would think you would almost have 797 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: to give it to him because he willed the team 798 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: to playoff contender status just by his great anybody can 799 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: will a team to eight and eight or nine and seven. Oh, 800 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: come on, you know you're letting your hatred of the 801 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: Texans infect Texans at all. I like the Texas, But 802 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is having an awesome year any any effects game, 803 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: an amazing team around him. What took it makes a 804 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: three and thirteen team and nine and seven team. I mean, 805 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: that's what's more valuable than a guy that can swing 806 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: that amount of win. The way though, the m v 807 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: P Award is trash because it's always really going to 808 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: go to an offensive players, gonna go to a quarterback 809 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: unless no quarterbacks have a good year, which I don't think. 810 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: I think what is a strong candidate. I probably would 811 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: vote Rock second right now behind but Rogers is the 812 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: most valuable and Rogers deserves it obviously. I mean, he's 813 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: been amazing this season and he's an all time quarterback. 814 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just you know, here's what I'll find interesting, 815 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, Did you write this article that Bill O'Brien said, 816 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: We're not. This isn't a circus with J. J. Watt 817 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: playing offense. He was an all state tight end in 818 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: high school, had a scholarship to college to play tight end. 819 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: To me, there's no reason why he can't be used 820 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: in the red zone on a regular basis. And and 821 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: maybe he will and maybe uh, they'll need to keep scoring. 822 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: They they won't have. Jadeveon Clowney was out for the year, 823 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: But what a terrible season. Yeah, I know he's it's 824 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: all injuries, but it's still disappointing for a guy that 825 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: had a very poor last year in college, or not 826 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: very poor, but a disappointing. He's had two straight disappointing years. 827 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't think he was necessarily treated 828 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: well by his own team. We had the reports all 829 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: season up team being disappointed with them. The guy's knee 830 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: was messed up even after he came back. There's not 831 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: much you can do when you can't move the way 832 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: you know. That's bad spot for him. Real quick props. 833 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: We'd nailed making the leap on DeAndre Hopkins. That was 834 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: the best game I've seen by a wide receiver all year. 835 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: Came out of the gate with two diving catches, he 836 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: has two deep touchdowns, gets almost a hundred yards after 837 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: the catch, just running wild. It reminded me of the 838 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: game all Sean Jeffrey had last year against the Vikings, 839 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: where he just dominated in every phase of the game. 840 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: Was Fitzpatrick though it was at a total mirage. He's 841 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: gonna go back to the being the nightmare that we 842 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: saw before. Well, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick, we know who 843 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: he is. Last week doesn't change anything. He's still Ryan Fitzpatrick. Alright, 844 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: Moving on, we all took the Texans there. Next up 845 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, Ravens head to Miami to face the Dolphins. Now, 846 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: this is an interesting game the Ravens uh coming up 847 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: really that bad, bad loss of the Chargers got clipped 848 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: at the end and they faced the Dolphins, who are 849 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: seven and five in the mix in the wild card race. 850 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: Gregg would say, they're right in the mix with the 851 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: A f C East race. You know, they beat the 852 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: Jets and it was not a very impressive win. But 853 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: now they're at home and Helodi Uh Nada got suspended 854 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: on Thursday, four games. He's out until the end of 855 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: the regular season, so he could rejoin them before the 856 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, by the start of the playoffs if they 857 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: make it. But that's a huge loss with this team. 858 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: How big a loss is not a last year I 859 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: would have said not very big because he wasn't playing 860 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: that well. But I think Gregg's pointed this out. He's 861 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: he's been playing at borderline All Pro level this year. Well. 862 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: And Andrews Siciliano pointed out downstairs that he's one reason 863 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: that c. J. Mosley has had the season. He said, right, 864 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: I think not has been in All Pro or right there. 865 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean Gerald McCoy is having a great year. In 866 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: the middle of the Dominans Woe is having a great year. 867 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: All three of them, Uh could be Defensive Player of 868 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: the Year candidates if it was a different year. And 869 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: what wasn't around. Look, the Ravens have lost their two 870 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: best players on defense since Jimmy Smith left. They have 871 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: not been the same in the secondary, and now you 872 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: lose Holodi Nada. That's a problem. That was an off 873 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: I was already totally on. I was on the fence 874 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: with this game. It really I had a hard time 875 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: picking it, and now I'm just gonna go Dolphins for that. 876 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I and I yesterday, you know, I 877 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: apologize to this corporation of Merror Trade. We have this thing, 878 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: this competent call, and I went with with the Ravens. 879 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: But then since then, man not not as out with 880 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: some sort of you know, he's suspending, he's out. Well 881 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm to recap. We we are changing two of our calls. 882 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually going to the Dolphins too. All right, 883 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: Well it wasn't your call though, at least that's that's 884 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: by the merrit Trade. People should have done word research 885 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: on how competent we were as people well, or the 886 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: Merror Trade probably not on board with us making picks 887 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: on Tuesday when suddenly a wild storm of information comes 888 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: at us and tells us their best defenders. Not in 889 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: next week. It would be like the mealy mouth the 890 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: week losers. We're doing the best we can. It's hard 891 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: picking this these games. It's stressful. I mean, you're right, 892 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: you remember, terrible stressible if you drop out of the race, 893 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: Like everyone does have that Tannehell game in their mind 894 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: from last week. And I think that's that's the problem 895 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: watching that. I don't know what's up with this Dolphins defense. 896 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: You think of their rush defense, who's given up four 897 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: hundred yards in the last weeks, having to go against 898 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: Jack Baltimore, and there's nothing wrong with that, you know, 899 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: running game, they should have another two hundred yards alright. 900 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: Moving on, the New York Jets head to Minnesota to 901 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: face the Vikings. This feels like a game we don't 902 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: have to spend too much time on. Jets are going 903 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: nowhere and they're forced to play a quarterback no one 904 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: believes in. So that's cool. And the Vikings are you know, 905 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: they've hung around their five and seven, but not a 906 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: great team by any stretch. We're trying to find out 907 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: what Teddy Bridgewater is made of? How will Mark greg 908 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: You seem to really be not too impressed by Teddy Bridgewater. 909 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: Why do you? I'm I'm turning around. I have a 910 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: hot Teddy Bridgewater take. Well, if you had to take 911 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: one of these rookie quarterbacks, Marks the rookie expert around here, 912 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: but I want that. I think if you had to 913 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: pick a rookie quarterback to win a game this week, 914 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: it's definitely Bridgewater. I just think he plays like a veteran. 915 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: He just smells and this maybe it's damning with faint praise, 916 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: but he's a guy like analysts like to call crafty 917 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: or he's just a winner. He just smells like he's 918 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: going to have this Alex Smith, you know, maybe Andy 919 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: Dalton like career, and that even right now you can 920 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: kind of see that he plays more like a veteran 921 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 1: than the rest of the rookies. I wrote the same 922 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: thing in my game you wind notes for three weeks 923 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: in a row, that he's he's a future Alex Smith. 924 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: Oh really, I still the whole take actually from West. 925 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: That's right. That wasn't on purpose, sinister manner. He does 926 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: all these things like trying to get the other, you know, 927 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 1: side to go off sides and doing it in really 928 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: complicated ways, and just all these things that you know, 929 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: other rookies heads are swimming too much, I think to 930 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: be trying to pull that stuff off. You know what 931 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about, Wes. You know what else he has 932 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: our guy Charles Johnson. That's right. And you know, Wes 933 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: and I were we were laughing at that. Charles Johnson 934 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: might have a little promise you know what, they just 935 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: benched Cordarol Patterson are number one, making the leap guy 936 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 1: another Cordel Patterson just saying, you know, everyone's making fun 937 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: of him six months ago. Now he's a starter and 938 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: he's got more targets than anyone on the team. I 939 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: think could start over Courdel Patterson at this point. You 940 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: know what, keep knocking Charles Johnson. Just make it a trend. 941 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 1: Make it your thing, Dan, Wait, no, it's your thing. 942 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: You love Charles Johnson so much. Let's see it now 943 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: he's in the starting lineup. He's done it for three weeks. Okay, 944 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: what did he do last week? Let's talk about it again. 945 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: Two catches for thirty yards. They barely threw the ball. 946 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: He was targeted like seven times. Did he catch that 947 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: little frisbee throw? We'll talk about him every week, Let's see. 948 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 1: I'd like to see a big game that we talked 949 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: about him every week. I think this is like maybe 950 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: the third time since August that we've mentioned his name, 951 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: probably the best receiver on the Jets. Everybody calmed down. 952 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: I want the Vikings to win this game, and I 953 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: want them to keep winning at home so that they 954 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: reconsider and maybe just stay in that outdoor stadium. That's 955 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: a home field advantage right there. We're bringing great over 956 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: to her side. But there is something about it was 957 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: like ten degrees there last weeks. I can't wait till 958 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: Eric Decker hides in Teddy Bridgewater is tough old bag 959 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: and stays on the Vikings because he can't wait to 960 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: get out of that team. He would want to go 961 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: to the Vikings. He's got a better playing snow away 962 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: and it's gonna finish. I didn't even know alright. Moving on, 963 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 1: we all picked the Vikings. Moving on the Carolina Panthers. Oh, 964 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: what a big showdown in the NFC South. Get excited. 965 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: The Panthers roll into the Superdome to face the Saints. 966 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: The Saints now five and seven, tied with the Falcons 967 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: of top TENNASY South. The Panthers playing out the string. 968 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: They stink. Uh. I thought the Saints looked great against 969 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers West. You did you watch that game yet 970 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: on your old game rewind diary notes the Saints game? Yes, yes, 971 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts about them? Well? I thought I was happy 972 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: that mark Ingram looked good again after taking a couple 973 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: of weeks off with the shoulder injury. I was one. 974 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Breeze looked good, but their passing games 975 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: still was like, all right, why is Kenny still is 976 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: the only guy doing anything? If Caroline is gonna win 977 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: this division at five ten and one, they're gonna need 978 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,959 Speaker 1: to take this game on Sunday. I can't believe how 979 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 1: bad the Panthers are, how unfun they are to watch. 980 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd reach a stage where I don't 981 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: enjoy watching Cam Newton because that was my number one guy. 982 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: I would say going into the year, they need to 983 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: do a better job next year, giving him some players 984 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: around him. Well, he's gonna leave, We'll leave. No, he 985 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 1: can't leave. Well, eventually, when he can leave, he will 986 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: because he'll get annoyed and frustrated with the losing, and 987 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: then that's the NFL works. Quarterbacks can't leave. If the 988 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: team wants him to stay, he could have a new 989 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: coach and a new coordinator next year. They could also 990 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: offer him a hundred whatever million dollars this offseason, which 991 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 1: would seem smart to do and he'd probably take it. 992 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: I guess he could pull a Carson Palmer. That's his 993 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: only option, but with the franchise tag, quarterbacks have to 994 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: stay where they are. Well, this will be your favorite 995 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: Panthers game of the year because D'Angel Williams broke his 996 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: hand and now they have to go to Jonathan Stewart 997 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: who played great last week. D'angela Williams has had a 998 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: very nice career. Uh, And it would be hoo riverboat 999 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: rn to realize that was in the past tense. Ron 1000 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: might be in the past tense. Yes, that would be 1001 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: dramatic if that happened, paddle boat Roun. I guess I 1002 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: just have a bit of assessor that Cam Newton is 1003 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: not a Panther for life. I think his career before 1004 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: he turns age thirty, he's gonna be somewhere else if 1005 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: if it is, if that happens, it'll be because he 1006 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: never develops HM. It's called a fourth year. He needs 1007 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: two out of every ten sesslers happened to come true, 1008 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: by the way, So that's just that, that's totally just 1009 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: out there is a potential. Guess how many area ms 1010 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: do we have here? Wow, there are a lot of games. Well, 1011 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: Kim News coming on under a little too much fire 1012 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: this year. Give him an offensive line, give him wide receivers. Yeah, 1013 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: and please give him a quarterback guru instead of Mike. 1014 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: That's the that's the biggest issue. I mean, imagine if 1015 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: he was on Philly or some or Miami or some 1016 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: team that knew what to do with a with a 1017 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, got Mike Shula. Who couldn't win, Who couldn't 1018 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: win at Alabama with all the advantages in the world, 1019 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Next up, the Giants go 1020 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: to Nashville to play the Tennessee franchise. I don't know 1021 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: how this happened, but we all picked the Giants to 1022 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: win on the road. I know the Titans stink, but 1023 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: come on, we all getting behind the Giants at such 1024 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: a vast level. That's that seems a little crazy. There 1025 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: were a couple five across picks this this week that 1026 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: got me worried that we're starting to become what I 1027 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: was accusing the newsroom of last week. A lot of 1028 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: group think figure was not happy with Rosenthal taking what 1029 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: was were perceived the shots at the newsroom. A shadowy 1030 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: league figure loomed over Greg, probably twice as big as Greg, 1031 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: and basically pointed down out of him and said, so 1032 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: you're taking shots at the news room. Yeah, I said 1033 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: I was a wet blanket and whatever, not enjoying the 1034 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel era or whatever. Painted Greg as someone that 1035 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: doesn't approach this job in a professional manner. Anyway, we 1036 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: all took the Titans. There's anything else we need to 1037 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: say about this game, because yeah, Odell back on the 1038 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: Star to watch. We've mentioned all of the national media 1039 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: love for Zach Mettenberger, which is making me scratch my 1040 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: head to a surious degree. I saw a step this 1041 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: week failed drive percentage, which means you've got the Bowl 1042 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: and you don't get a field goal or a touchdown. 1043 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: In the last fifteen years, he has the third worst 1044 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: percentage ever. I think any QB with a big arm 1045 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: gets a lot of rope when they hit the scene 1046 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: he might hang. I think Greg has made me watch 1047 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: a Titans game on a Sunday for seventeen straight weeks, 1048 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: so I can I can tell you that Mettenberger hits 1049 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: two or three passes a day that I guess people 1050 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: are seeing on Prime Time or something or on Total 1051 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: Access people who have fall in love with big arms 1052 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: like the My entire September was stained by the Titans 1053 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: four straight weeks. I covered that tight Dan, you're off 1054 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: the you don't finally a game. You get to watch 1055 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: an exciting player like Odell Beckham, but Connor will have 1056 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: the game, not you, too bad, count or the Great 1057 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: Connor Or lives in a haunted mansion in the middle 1058 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: of New Jersey. Moving forward to St. Louis Rams, the 1059 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: best five and seven team in the history of the NFL, 1060 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: UH faces the Washington Redskins and Colt McCoy r G 1061 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: three wasting away. Nobody even talks about the guy anymore. 1062 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: And you know that's not such a bad thing. McCoy 1063 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: put up some decent numbers last week, uh in a 1064 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: loss to Minnesota, but that was a little Indianapolis. Excuse me, 1065 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: but that was a little deceiving. Uh. This seems we've 1066 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: talked about. We talked about at the Rams goes seven 1067 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: or nine every year and then everyone's is how amazing 1068 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: the Rams are going to be in the future. So 1069 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: you figure, if they gotta get two more wins in 1070 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: the next four weeks, this will be one of them 1071 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: to get to seven. Right. I love that. Jeff Fisher 1072 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: was asked this week if he would do the RG 1073 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: three trade over again. Yeah, you have to ask that question, 1074 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: But I just love that he was asking. It's like 1075 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I think I would do that. That 1076 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: thinking group think you don't have to ask that question, 1077 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: but national media types love to think that you have 1078 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: to ask that question. It is, of course, but it 1079 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: is kind of fun to think about when these two teams, 1080 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: what you have? What's a football game without eighteen narratives? 1081 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: Well they're happy not to have r G three and 1082 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: that makes sense, but what was the final what do 1083 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: they get out of that deal? I know it's all 1084 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: there is a list and it's um, it's in a 1085 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: story we just did and it's Michael google Tree, Zack Stacy, 1086 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's a number of them are making their defense 1087 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 1: what they are. It's like, I mean, they're still going 1088 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: seven or nine every year and major problem why they 1089 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: go seven and nights because they don't have a quarterback. 1090 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: Zack RG three wasn't the guy that should have taken 1091 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: but still uh yeah, so maybe he's a star if 1092 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: he's in St. Louis because Mike Shanahan never puts him 1093 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: back into a playoff game. That's very cool. Called McCoy though, 1094 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: was a little flashier than expected last week, not not great, 1095 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: You're not as good as his numbers. But he made 1096 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: some very athletic, kind of exciting place. He was kinda 1097 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: if anything like we said, he has extended his career 1098 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: half a decade. He's not going to be working in 1099 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: a hardware store four months from now. He's gonna still 1100 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 1: be in the NFL. McCoy's bought into Jay Gruden's offense, 1101 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: and r G three hasn't. Who lasts longer Colt McCoy 1102 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: r G three in the NFL, Well, I mean called 1103 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: McCoy by the way, called McCoy is is older. But 1104 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: but but it's all the one thing about him. He's 1105 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: always been a guy who's great in the locker room, 1106 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: great in the quarterback room, r G three everywhere. Everything 1107 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: he does seems to turn into total nightmare for the 1108 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: coaches in the locker room. So I say, call McCoy, 1109 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: hold on, I just got a tweet from RG three 1110 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: saying it's on a nightmare. Oh sorry, J J God. 1111 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing between Gruden and Griffin, and 1112 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: you can say about Shanian too, it seems very personal 1113 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: that if they liked the player, if they liked Griffin 1114 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: at all, that a lot of these things wouldn't happen 1115 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: because if, if, if Griffin is a guy that they 1116 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: truly liked, they wouldn't be just burying him and saying 1117 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: we're done with him, like we're we're done with him, 1118 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: all right? This is next game is a big one 1119 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: for West and I we on Wednesday show, and if 1120 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: you haven't listened to it, you definitely should. You can 1121 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: find all our podcasts West at NFL dot com Slash 1122 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: podcast nice. Uh, and we talked about who would be 1123 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: our wild card picks. West and I both see the 1124 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs getting in the back door, so they gotta win 1125 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: this game. They're going to Arizona. Uh. They are sitting 1126 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: at seven and five right now, Arizona, of course nine 1127 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: and three, but riding a two game losing streak. Sessler 1128 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: has already predicted a nine and seven finished for the Cardinals, 1129 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: so you know where he stands on this. Well, I 1130 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: also plug car everyone kicked the Cardinals. Oh wait, no, 1131 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: that's not fair. I operate in many directions. It's total 1132 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: that's lame. You've been saying. This is why at the top, 1133 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: because I will surprise is not an achievement when of 1134 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: the group is tied at the top. Well, it's better 1135 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: Where's wests, But you know I'd rather be where I 1136 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: wait a second, So you're saying the Cardinals are gonna 1137 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: go nine and seven, but they're gonna win their tenth 1138 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Everything is in play. That is That 1139 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: is the most Tessler thing. Everything is in place. Worry 1140 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: about your own picks, and then there you can still 1141 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: change it. I'm taking one minute break, you guys, You guys, 1142 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: go on. I think that's absolutely fair. Two different platforms, 1143 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: different agendas. This is another game, though, that was extremely 1144 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 1: hard to pick. And I'm shocked that we went five 1145 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: across on the Cardinals because I really struggled trying to 1146 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: pick this game, especially after watching the Cardinals give a 1147 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: five yards to Atlanta and we all went with Cars. 1148 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: I was just thinking I was going with the Chief. 1149 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: Dan come back into the show. I'm still processing it. Okay, 1150 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm back. I think when I was watching the Atlanta game, 1151 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: I thought maybe Drew Stanton had a chance, maybe Bruce 1152 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: arians could have made something out of him if they 1153 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: had a running game and if Larry Fitzgerald was healthy. 1154 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: But they don't know what to sneak back this week though, Fitzgerald. 1155 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the stats are, but I can 1156 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: tell you just by watching games. The Cardinals have by 1157 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: far the worst rushing attack in the NFL. Well, they're 1158 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: their third statistically, I think second or third. Well over 1159 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: the last month they have to yeah, in terms of 1160 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: rushing yards per game, but they have the advantage that 1161 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: they've played with the lead almost all season too. But 1162 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: so to be thirty feet even though they've had so 1163 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: many leads is crazy. I mean, Marian Grice was their 1164 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: leading rusher last week. Isn't that John Wayne's real name? 1165 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: And now you lose Honey Badger. It's just they have 1166 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 1: had a tough spot, but the Chiefs have been off 1167 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: of the last two weeks too. I think I know 1168 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: what it is, Mark, because if if, if this is 1169 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: what it is, where you're what does Mark say doesn't 1170 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: mean anything? Is anything? And anything? And then I wonder 1171 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 1: about our friendship and the conversations we've had in confidence 1172 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: with each other where we've told each other things. Have 1173 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: you ever been truthful with me? Or is there another agenda? 1174 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,919 Speaker 1: I've never been truthful with you. It's all amissed, none 1175 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: of it's real. You're a You're a nehlist game picker. No, 1176 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I honestly forget I kind of forget 1177 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: my picks and I don't even remember picking the Cardinals 1178 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: till about five minutes ago. That this is your chance, now, 1179 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: last chance to get on page with yourself. I will 1180 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: get right on that when this show ends. Alright, Moving 1181 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills, I don't believe you for some reason. 1182 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you will change I pick. I have 1183 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: till Sunday to make my mind. The Buffalo Bills are 1184 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: traveling to Denver to face the bronc is the Bills, 1185 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: by the way, and they're fans that deserve to be 1186 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: happy about the Bills being a contention in December. You're 1187 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: about the drum bomb on him. Yeah, but yes, guess 1188 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. It's it's just about to end. I 1189 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: have this video, actually there's a video, uh YouTube video. 1190 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: Somebody in the Buffalo Air, I would assume, put together 1191 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: a beautiful and read the end around to see this 1192 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: a beautiful Christmas display where they time it up with 1193 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: music and the lights, and it's like something clearly took 1194 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: them hours and hours and perhaps weeks to set up. 1195 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: And it's like a Bill's theme Christmas light spectacular on 1196 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: their house. And I'm thinking to myself, God, good thing 1197 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: they got this done before the December schedule hit, because 1198 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: what do they got they have at Broncos. What does 1199 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: it have like a Patriots Patriots packers. Basically, they're in 1200 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs right now, So just enjoy seven and five 1201 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: because in a blink you're gonna be seven and eight. 1202 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: I think, Mark, that's a great way to look at it. 1203 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: You're already in the playoffs. Look at the teams you 1204 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: get to play, and you can get to lose and 1205 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: stay in the playoffs. I want to say, this Christmas display, 1206 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: does it have like a Kyle Orton throwing the ball 1207 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: that that misses his receiver and hits them in the 1208 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: feet or something. Does it have Sammy Watkins disappointing people? 1209 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Robert Woods by the way, the whole Robert 1210 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: would Sammy Watkins preseason sandwich that has suddenly got an interest. 1211 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: He's dropped eleven yards last week. There we go, Sammy 1212 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: Watkins fifty one for six and nine, five and five, 1213 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: Robert Woods forty nine for five, fifty and three. But 1214 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: he's caught up about a hundred and fifty yards in 1215 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: the last two weeks alone. Usually takes Robert Woods five 1216 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: ways to get a hundred fifty yards, so he's that's progress. Well, 1217 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: Watkins has fallen off the map the last four weeks. 1218 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he's crossed thirty five yards in any 1219 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: of these games. They gave him the business last week. 1220 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: They bracketed him and him got physical with him. Who 1221 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: did what was it? Whoever? They were playing against Cleveland, 1222 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: oh West block House blocked out the brown Browns. Well, 1223 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: let's just like eliminates it from his brain. Some team. 1224 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,959 Speaker 1: I totally expect the Broncos to win click, but isn't 1225 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: this a pretty fun matchup when the bronc does have 1226 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: the ball, especially, I think it'll be fine. The one 1227 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: thing about Denver if any team can get pass rush 1228 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: on Manny and that makes it interesting to me. The 1229 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Bills might be my favorite fan base in the league. 1230 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: I I wish I do well, do well, but look, 1231 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: it's not your fault. It's not your fault, Bills fans 1232 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: that you're stuck with Kyle Orton any Jays Manuel, Sorry, 1233 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: but your team is not good enough to go to 1234 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: the playoff. You're watching Peyton Manning against that Bill's defense. 1235 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Tell me when that's happening. That's in intriguing. I like 1236 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: that little match Marcell Darius and Kyle Williams do a 1237 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning sandwich six and a half time, I'm gonna happen. 1238 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. Oh, it's a it's the Bay 1239 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Bridge Battle, guys, the Battle for the Bay Bridge. The 1240 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners head to Oakland to face the Raiders. 1241 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: The Raiders who lost fifty two nothing last week now 1242 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: facing Niners team that needs to win to stay in 1243 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: contention in the NFC West. So you would think the 1244 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Niners would be sufficiently motivated. However, this has been a 1245 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: bit of a strange season in San Francisco. Any chance 1246 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders put up a fight after really humiliating themselves 1247 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: on last Sunday, Well, this is Jim Harbaugh's audition, not 1248 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: that he needs one against Oakland's. He should drop a 1249 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: hammer on the Raiders and saying do you have inside points? Well, 1250 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: in fact, this is the game where someone gets in 1251 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: a duffel bag and stays with the other team. Hey, 1252 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: the last shaky offense that came into the black hole 1253 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: left with a loss. You know what I'm saying, Kansas 1254 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, you don't want to go to Oakland before 1255 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: after the Raiders lost nothing trying. I don't know, they 1256 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: never know. I don't think the forty Niners offense is 1257 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: good enough to assume that they'll score twenty points points 1258 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: against anyone. I think I like the Niners better on 1259 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: the road than at home. Right. If they're in that 1260 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: if that Jean's Stadium, Gene Pant's house, that's not gonna 1261 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: go well. So put him in Oakland better chance. Former 1262 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: scout John Middlecoff interviewed five coaches in NFL execs and 1263 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: asked them about the quarterback battle in this game. Who 1264 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: would you rather have for the future, Derek Carr or 1265 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick? Unanimously, all five said Derek Carr, Which that 1266 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 1: blows my mind. I don't know who they're watching. They 1267 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: didn't talk to Ron Jaworski, did they just did? They 1268 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: just mark Davis five times? I don't know who they asked, 1269 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: and look there, Carr could have a nice future, but 1270 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: how can you separate him from the checkdowns he's throwing 1271 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: every game? I just don't get what I don't know 1272 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: and Kaepernick. It seems a little capricious to me, just 1273 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to jump off what you've ever seen, what you've seen 1274 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: about this very topic that you could find well, yeah, 1275 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: it was about on a micro level Kaepernick versus car 1276 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: and on a macro level, is this the demise of 1277 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks? Bill Poullian said it this week that we're 1278 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: seeing the erosion of It's been a terrible year for Andrew. 1279 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Luck used to be grouped with these guys and their 1280 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: similarities to their game, but he has pulled far apart 1281 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: from Russell Wilson Kaepernick in r G three. Now Kaepernick 1282 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson and Cam New should not be grouped with, 1283 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, r G three. They're they're playing fine, but 1284 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Luck is way ahead of them right now. It's Luck, 1285 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Ben Wilson and everyone else. This this article that west 1286 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Row what's the title of it? Exactly the demise of 1287 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: the running QB? Question mark is so good that Dan 1288 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: hands this for only the second time in three years. 1289 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Rob Chris Wesley article or website if you enjoy that 1290 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: headline came from. Yeah, this is why future managing editor 1291 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler all this desk man Sire to be middle 1292 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: of this kissing up is really paying off. I couldn't 1293 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: possibly surpass Gregg's work. It would be faulty of me 1294 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: to take See the cohesiveness of the group you have 1295 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: put together. Help one hand watches the other. I'm I'm 1296 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: a regular regiment NFL dot com. There's a lot of 1297 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: stuff on that website. I had no idea some of 1298 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: it football. Alright, gentlemen, that's it for Thursday's edition to 1299 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: be around the NFL podcast. Thank you so much for listening, 1300 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: of course, and you can find our stuff, you know, 1301 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: at iTunes and at stitcher. What's the Itune awards coming back, 1302 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: by the way, because we got to get that best 1303 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: of two thousand four teen bling this month, next month 1304 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: and then the year start of next year. Kay Rich 1305 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: would have been all over this. I have a feeling 1306 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: there's voting at this at your awards right now, so 1307 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 1: go check and find out for us, and if there 1308 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: is vote, yeah, so do all that, and yeah, thank 1309 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: you for listening. We'll be back on Sunday night, of 1310 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: course with our big wrap up show, the only NFL 1311 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: podcast that gets up a fresh show on Sunday night. 1312 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh the other posers, he can't do it. You can't 1313 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: do what we're doing. If you try, you'll still go down. 1314 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 1: By the way, no Stitcher awards voting just yet. Okay, 1315 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: So I was in the midst of eviscerating. No no, 1316 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: no words, I just had Okay, I feel like Greg 1317 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: was calling me out there. I think he was busy 1318 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: telling our listeners to be eron boys, figure that out 1319 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: for us. That yeah, they help us out. They helped 1320 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: us get the Stitcher. It's nice of them, all right, 1321 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 1: So that's it. This is Dan Hansis signing off for 1322 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: Mark Ceiler, the Sizzler. They call him the Mailman, the 1323 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Boss and t d behind the glass. They took his 1324 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: team viciously below average. They stole his innocence, childlike, but 1325 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: not to suggest innocence or purity. They made a football 1326 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: life about his misery. Troll all to lead and open 1327 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: the factory of sadness that never closed. Now the climate 1328 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: is right for revenge this winter, there's a hurricane coming 1329 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: for anyone who looks in this direction on a Sunday, 1330 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: it will be an apocalyptic sunset. Mark Sessler did quiet store. 1331 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 1: This show cannot end fast enough, and I have a 1332 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: sharply worded letter to handle you, my friend