Speaker 1: Warning.
Speaker 2: If you're prone to get your feelings hurt and are
Speaker 2: a person that doesn't like to laugh, this pod is
Speaker 2: not for you. If you're looking for serious analysis and
Speaker 2: hate the drama of the NBA, this pod is not
Speaker 2: for you. If you're looking for something soothing like ASMR,
Speaker 2: this pod is not for you.
Speaker 3: On this episode of This League, we break down the
Speaker 3: holy shit hard into the nets, how we got there,
Speaker 3: the latest developments for Kyrie Irving, the NBA strict new
Speaker 3: COVID protocols that have some guys in a tizzy, and
Speaker 3: we hit some listener voicemails.
Speaker 4: All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: We're when the Houston Rockets said they were willing to
Speaker 3: get uncomfortable when it came to James Harden.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that escalated pretty quickly, didn't it.
Speaker 3: I would say that in the last few days things
Speaker 3: got pretty uncomfortable, like cringe levels of unc comfortable. Let's
Speaker 3: recap where we were prior to James Harden getting shipped
Speaker 3: out of Houston. Head coach gone, GM gone co star one, gone,
Speaker 3: co Star two gone. I mean, Russell Westbrook was happy
Speaker 3: to go to the Washington Wizards. That's how bad we
Speaker 3: were at and James Harden saw all that and was like.
Speaker 4: The champion, the championship.
Speaker 3: Window was closed, and he just knew that things were
Speaker 3: not gonna work out, and I mean fair enough, they
Speaker 3: weren't gonna work out. So then he asked for trade
Speaker 3: right then after he asked the organization for a trade
Speaker 3: through his handlers, he made sure that the trade request
Speaker 3: was public, and.
Speaker 4: Then Houston was like, thanks for that.
Speaker 3: Uh, we hear you, but we're gonna wait until we
Speaker 3: get the offer that we want. We are willing to
Speaker 3: get uncomfortable as it relates to James Harden and maybe
Speaker 3: just maybe when you see our roster or John Wall
Speaker 3: or DeMarcus Cousins said, maybe you might feel differently. And
Speaker 3: then Harden was like, you want to get uncomfortable. Challenge accepted,
Speaker 3: Let's do this. I'm gonna go to strip clubs instead
Speaker 3: of training camp. I'm gonna go and party in Vegas
Speaker 3: with rappers. I'm gonna break COVID protocol. I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: forced to quarantine. I'm gonna sprain my ankle. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have the least amount of points in a five game
Speaker 3: stretch since the time I was a six man in Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: City.
Speaker 3: How uncomfortable are you down to get as uncomfortable as
Speaker 3: I am in this baby blue jumpsuit. I'm willing to
Speaker 3: show up forty pounds overweight, not even close to game shape.
Speaker 3: And then no news, zero crickets, just wide angled shots
Speaker 3: of James Harden in a rapidly expanding weight and as
Speaker 3: someone who's starting an NBA podcast, I was pretty fucking disappointed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean until the other night when they got
Speaker 2: smoked by the Lakers. I got on that bet train,
Speaker 2: did you Oh yeah, I had it.
Speaker 3: And the world wanted to know, James, why can't it
Speaker 3: why can't you compete with the Lakers?
Speaker 4: And he says, which was shocking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of the all time presser moments.
Speaker 3: I mean, right, the world was stopped. It felt like
Speaker 3: he said. I was thinking he would say, you know,
Speaker 3: we tried hard, we went out you know, these lots
Speaker 3: to do, lots of change or keeping our heads up,
Speaker 3: and he said what he said was, Wow, We're just
Speaker 3: not good enough. We're not even close to good enough
Speaker 3: to the other elite teams.
Speaker 4: Chemistry wise, talent wise, everything everything. It's clear. I love
Speaker 4: the city.
Speaker 3: I've done literally all I can the situation's crazy and
Speaker 3: I don't think it can be fixed. And then he left, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just got up left.
Speaker 4: What a world class bust toss.
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, when with the last time you heard
Speaker 3: someone say that about anyone that they worked with, let
Speaker 3: alone the entire roster, Like, just throw them all to
Speaker 3: the wolves.
Speaker 4: You guys are all trash.
Speaker 3: Not good enough, James Harden, Your seventeen point four points
Speaker 3: a game isn't good enough.
Speaker 4: Shooting thirty eight percent isn't good enough.
Speaker 3: You showing up the way you look is certain not
Speaker 3: good enough as it relates to chemistry. Holy fuck, you
Speaker 3: seem like the toxic one here. Everyone else is pretty
Speaker 3: much like looking around like yo, you James are the
Speaker 3: breaking point that makes this situation impossible to be vexed.
Speaker 1: Fam.
Speaker 3: I gasped when I heard that, oh man, And then
Speaker 3: the media, of course, was like, hey, John Wall, did
Speaker 3: you hear what James Harden had to say about you?
Speaker 4: And then he was like, yeah, no comment, but.
Speaker 3: He did describe the relationship so far with James Harden.
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it's been a little rocky.
Speaker 1: I can't lie about that. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's been the.
Speaker 3: Best he could be to be honest, that's all I
Speaker 3: really could say. Oh gosh, and then I mean, yes,
Speaker 3: it's been rocky. And then which is even better. DeMarcus
Speaker 3: Cousins was like, let's throw the filter off this.
Speaker 5: Bitch me personally, I don't feel betrayed at all my
Speaker 5: interest playing with John Wall to be brutally honest. That
Speaker 5: being said, the disrespect started way before, just a approach
Speaker 5: to training camp. Showing up the way he did, the
Speaker 5: antics off the court. I mean, the disrespect started way before.
Speaker 6: So this isn't something that you know, all of a
Speaker 6: sudden happened, you know, last night. But with that being said,
Speaker 6: like I said, this is the nasty part of the business,
Speaker 6: So it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh. The part that I can't get enough of is
Speaker 3: showing up the way he did. De Marcus Cousins says
Speaker 3: James Harden. The disrespect started way earlier when he showed
Speaker 3: up the way he did. You mean, fat as hell,
Speaker 3: couldn't even fit into his warm ups, looked like he
Speaker 3: was in a Santa Claus suit with some baby blues on.
Speaker 4: Folks, This isn't something that just happened last night. We
Speaker 4: know that, we know that.
Speaker 3: Thank you, DeMarcus Cousins were saying exactly well.
Speaker 4: We've been thinking.
Speaker 3: I mean, the shocking thing is that we hadn't heard
Speaker 3: any of this until just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised, I mean in this league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like there were just so
Speaker 2: many problems going on there, and like maybe if there were,
Speaker 2: maybe James Harden was just afraid of DeMarcus Cousins and
Speaker 2: just shocked couldn't be around them.
Speaker 4: No doubt.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone at this point after this presser
Speaker 3: was like, the Rockets are in a good negotiating spot.
Speaker 3: At this point, It's clear James Harden's not coming back.
Speaker 4: He is not safe to return to.
Speaker 3: This locker room because DeMarcus Cousins is there waiting for him.
Speaker 3: And yet somehow, some way, the Rockets fleeced the Brooklyn
Speaker 3: Nets into four first round picks and then four pick
Speaker 3: swaps the max allowed. And then somehow the Rockets were
Speaker 3: able to wriggle their way in. Were Tillman Frittata as
Speaker 3: I would like to call him, found a way to
Speaker 3: not have Kris the Vertz contract on their books, but
Speaker 3: they haven't expiring in Victor Oladipo.
Speaker 4: I just don't understand, Like.
Speaker 3: If the Rockets were forced to make this trade at gunpoint,
Speaker 3: which they certainly seemed to be after that whole fiasco, how.
Speaker 4: Were the Nets the one that got held up?
Speaker 6: How?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: So the trades complicated to my little brain, Pacers, Nets, Rockets, Cats,
Speaker 3: And the interesting and crazy thing to me is that
Speaker 3: like the three teams that got better are the ones
Speaker 3: that did not get James Harden.
Speaker 4: Please explain to me this deal?
Speaker 3: Mark?
Speaker 2: All Right, I've got it. I've spent some time on
Speaker 2: and I think I've got it down. Okay, So the
Speaker 2: Rockets pick up Oladipo, Dante exim Rodion's currux are spelling? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Three brook Brooklyn first rounders twenty two to twenty four
Speaker 2: to twenty six one Milwaukee first. I guess this is
Speaker 2: where the Calves thing came in. That's a twenty two
Speaker 2: unprotected four Brooklyn first round pick. Swaps twenty one, twenty three,
Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty seven. Nets get James Harden, Pacers pick
Speaker 2: up Carris Lavert and a second rounder, and the Calves
Speaker 2: somehow get Jared Allen and Torrian Prince.
Speaker 3: Torrian Prince quietly playing pretty well this This situation went
Speaker 3: from He's uncomfortable to this looks pretty fucking bad to
Speaker 3: oh my god, something's gotta give to are used to
Speaker 3: this is real life. In like ten minutes, I needed
Speaker 3: two phones to keep up. Harden not only bullied his
Speaker 3: way out of Houston, he bullied the President of the
Speaker 3: United States off of our timelines, like I can't even
Speaker 3: actually tell whether the president was impeach is about to
Speaker 3: be impeached? Is it a second time? Is it the
Speaker 3: first time? Where we still talking it through, because that's
Speaker 3: how much that dominated what we were seeing on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. We kind of shrugged off the presidential impeachment,
Speaker 2: right okay, and all.
Speaker 3: Of this is going on, and I just have to know, like,
Speaker 3: where's Kyrie in all this?
Speaker 4: Where is Kyrie Irving?
Speaker 3: This league the news if this James Harden thing wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna come out and the big lead was gonna be
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving Because the moment we stepped out of this booth,
Speaker 3: I got a little timeline update and it was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: by the way, have you seen where Kyrie Irving has been?
Speaker 4: He has not been.
Speaker 3: Contemplating philosophy and our democracy he was at a birthday
Speaker 3: party for his sister, large gathering with zero masks on large,
Speaker 3: putting himself front and center. Again, three shows in a row.
Speaker 3: Now where we're talking about Kyrie Irving?
Speaker 4: So what did he do? Okay, so he went to
Speaker 4: this birthday party.
Speaker 3: Oh as an aside, by the way, did you see
Speaker 3: what he put on his Instagram.
Speaker 4: For his dad?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I don't follow Kyrie. What he say?
Speaker 4: Shocker? He said happy? What do you say? Happy? Journey
Speaker 4: around the Sun? King?
Speaker 7: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 2: Okay, So if.
Speaker 3: The Earth is flat, how can we rotate around the sun?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 3: So Kyrie broke protocol and now we don't know if
Speaker 3: he's gonna play basketball this.
Speaker 4: Season, we don't know when he's returning.
Speaker 3: And now the NBA is looking into Kyrie for breaking protocol.
Speaker 3: And now he's got a test negative multiple times.
Speaker 4: He's got to quarantine. The whole thing is just a mess.
Speaker 3: No matter what Sean Marks has to say, we're not
Speaker 3: even sure if Kyrie wants to return. And the only
Speaker 3: reason that we know he's still alive based on a
Speaker 3: photo that surfaced of him with two hundred people on it,
Speaker 3: which was like a zoom rally with a wait, a
Speaker 3: former star of Sex and the City, Cynthia Nixon endorsing
Speaker 3: some candidate for District Attorney of Manhattan, and Kyrie was like, yes,
Speaker 3: me and my activist self are ready to go. Hey,
Speaker 3: heads up, Kyrie, there's a game going on right now
Speaker 3: that you're supposed to be playing in. As the zume
Speaker 3: call is going on, you might have told them, Hey,
Speaker 3: I have this Nuggets game on my calendar.
Speaker 4: Can we reschedule a game?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Fuck this guy.
Speaker 4: That's a perfect describe it.
Speaker 3: And my wonder is, does the arrival of James Harden
Speaker 3: make it more or less likely that Kyrie is coming
Speaker 3: back to the squad.
Speaker 4: My guess is less likely.
Speaker 3: Because he's already expressed I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 3: but because it's just all gotten lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 4: But Kyrie already expressed his lack.
Speaker 3: Of enthusiasm for the potential trade of James Harden.
Speaker 4: The quote is.
Speaker 2: What again, Marty Uh Okay, I've got it. It's James
Speaker 2: is a great player, and we wish him well. I
Speaker 2: just want him to be happy, be secure in who
Speaker 2: he is as a man first and then as a
Speaker 2: basketball player. Whatever happens. Thosetions are between them, but we're
Speaker 2: focused on us.
Speaker 3: So much to unpack. In that sense, I think you
Speaker 3: could very clearly say he was not anticipating James Harden's arrival.
Speaker 3: He needs to be secure in who he is as
Speaker 3: a man first. That's a strip club shot. That is
Speaker 3: a strip club shot. Anyway, Sorry, Kyrie, but he Harden
Speaker 3: is now US. US now includes James Harden as long
Speaker 3: as Kyrie is a NET. But now I'm not even
Speaker 3: sure if this is true. But at the exact same
Speaker 3: time that James Harden was being traded to the Nets,
Speaker 3: there was a new tweet surfacing by sn y and
Speaker 3: the tweet was update First, I'm hearing a ton of
Speaker 3: Nets Kyrie stuff this morning. Sounds like an absolute mess
Speaker 3: developing update big red flashing lights in the tweet. I'm
Speaker 3: being told Kyrie's been furious at the organization for some
Speaker 3: time for not giving him more input on the head
Speaker 3: coach hiring.
Speaker 4: He was not in favor of Steve Nash.
Speaker 3: Also, also, his relationship with Kevin Durant has been described.
Speaker 4: As very distant recently.
Speaker 3: Ma'am.
Speaker 4: I said it on the last episode.
Speaker 3: This marriage is not built for the long term. Someone
Speaker 3: is gonna go somewhere, and now that the Nets to
Speaker 3: have James Harden and we know, I'm I'm sure what
Speaker 3: Kyrie thinks of that. It's not a stretch to me
Speaker 3: that Kyrie is gonna take the season off and just
Speaker 3: be like you guys, do you I'm gonna continue on
Speaker 3: these zoom rallies with the rest of my artist activist politicians.
Speaker 4: What did I say about the Nets the last episode, Marty,
Speaker 4: can you find that clip? I think we have a
Speaker 4: dysfunctional organization on our hands.
Speaker 3: That aged perfectly, because I would say as things develop,
Speaker 3: the more that takes sounds spot on. You've got the Nets,
Speaker 3: who went from a pair of superstars, one that was
Speaker 3: like somewhat known as being a cancer and another superstar
Speaker 3: that's moody as hell to a superstar that's moody as
Speaker 3: hell and another other star that's been known as a
Speaker 3: locker room cancer. And then you add Kyrie to the
Speaker 3: mix and we don't even know if he's coming back.
Speaker 4: We're not sure.
Speaker 3: So now you have two possible cancers and a guy
Speaker 3: who at best is.
Speaker 4: Moody with a lot of lower body issues.
Speaker 3: So we are one protest and one soft tissue injury
Speaker 3: away from the Brooklyn Nets being the twenty twenty Houston
Speaker 3: Rockets without John Wall just James Harden balling with a
Speaker 3: bunch of Jags, just a bunch of just guys.
Speaker 4: And that is.
Speaker 3: The best case. The visitation no longer comes. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 3: say that's a great place to stop it, because the
Speaker 3: visitations are no longer coming for folks in the NBA.
Speaker 3: No no, since this last episode again timely COVID ravishing,
Speaker 3: ravaging the league, and the NBA is like, Okay, let's
Speaker 3: straighten this shit out.
Speaker 4: We're going to make some new rules protocols.
Speaker 3: And I have to say, everything is hard to keep
Speaker 3: up with.
Speaker 4: How can I be up to speed? Marty? Please tell
Speaker 4: me the new rules?
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the latest. Pregame and postgame Opposing players
Speaker 2: are limited to fist and elbow bumps with no extended socializing.
Speaker 2: No non team guests in hotel rooms that might be
Speaker 2: an issue. Players are now prohibited from leaving the hotel
Speaker 2: for non team related activities and at home for at
Speaker 2: least the next two weeks. Players should avoid interacting with
Speaker 2: people who don't live or work regularly in their homes,
Speaker 2: and as for coaches and team staff members, are required
Speaker 2: to remain at home when in their home markets unless
Speaker 2: they are attending team related activities, exercising outside, performing in
Speaker 2: essential activities, or going out for what the League termed
Speaker 2: extraordinary circumstances.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is a lot, quite a lot.
Speaker 3: So basically it's like, stay the fuck in your house,
Speaker 3: see no one unless they live with you. Kind of
Speaker 3: like I don't know, March, when we were all sheltering
Speaker 3: in place when COVID levels were through the roof, but
Speaker 3: also lower than they are right this fucking second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine this is sitting well
Speaker 2: with a lot of the vets.
Speaker 4: Bingo, bingo.
Speaker 3: We already have vocal descent on our fans, folks. Okay,
Speaker 3: sees George Hill. We'll call them a journeyman about these
Speaker 3: new rules. And I tell you what it was about
Speaker 3: as close to fuck you, Adam Silver as you are
Speaker 3: possibly going to get without him actually say saying those words.
Speaker 3: He says, I'm a grown man.
Speaker 4: This is a quote. I'm a grown man. I'm going
Speaker 4: to do what I want to do.
Speaker 3: If I want to go and see my family, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go and see my family. They can't tell me
Speaker 3: I have to stay in a room twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: If it's that serious, then maybe we shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 4: But it's life.
Speaker 3: No one is going to be able to just cancel
Speaker 3: their whole life for this game. Whoa whoa Marty. George
Speaker 3: Hill was drafted in two thousand and eight. If I
Speaker 3: remember correctly.
Speaker 2: I think that's right.
Speaker 4: How much has George Hill made in his career?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is his thirteenth year in the league and
Speaker 2: his lifetime earnings is ninety four million, four hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty five thousand and some change.
Speaker 3: Easy to say fuck to Adam Silver when you have
Speaker 3: one hundred milli that you've made in your career. A
Speaker 3: thirty five year old man with a decade of NBA
Speaker 3: checks under his belt looking at these new COVID rules
Speaker 3: and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, you know what, sh I'm grown. We shouldn't play
Speaker 4: if we are under lock and key. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And you know what those rules, those Kittler rules you
Speaker 3: think you're about to put in place.
Speaker 4: I'm grown.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do whatever I want to do. Good luck
Speaker 3: trying to enforce those, Adam Silver. And you know, George
Speaker 3: Hill for sure has a point. I mean that is
Speaker 3: like a crazy set of rules. And then I thought
Speaker 3: to myself, I wonder if everybody's feeling this way. I
Speaker 3: wonder if the entire league is ready to overthrow Adam
Speaker 3: Silver and his nonsense.
Speaker 4: And then Shay Gilgris Alexander third.
Speaker 3: Year player, great guy, said this wildly different take.
Speaker 4: It's what's necessary.
Speaker 3: I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get rid
Speaker 3: of COVID if it means I have to wear a
Speaker 3: mask on the bench the whole time. It is what
Speaker 3: it is, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3: I want us to get back to normal living. Whatever
Speaker 3: it takes to get back, I am gonna do it.
Speaker 3: SHA's like, Yeah, I don't know what he's saying.
Speaker 2: He's a company man.
Speaker 4: So how much is Shane made in his career?
Speaker 2: So Shay's lifetime earnings are seven point three MILI and
Speaker 2: he's on his rookie contract until twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little different.
Speaker 3: A little different viewpoint from Shae. He's like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what George Hill is talking about, but I am
Speaker 3: down for whatever you guys need us to do in
Speaker 3: order for this thing to keep rocking for me to
Speaker 3: keep getting those checks.
Speaker 4: I am on a rookie contract.
Speaker 3: I've got bills to pay, and with the NBA stops,
Speaker 3: I don't know where I'm gonna get my next paycheck from.
Speaker 3: And if we cancel the season, then the CBA's ripped up,
Speaker 3: and the CBA's ripped up that I don't get paid
Speaker 3: coming into my new contract. I'll do whatever it fucking takes,
Speaker 3: whatever I need to do. I'll wear a mask and
Speaker 3: bad if I have to. I'll wear a mask in
Speaker 3: the shower if I have to. Shit, don't listen to
Speaker 3: George show. We got this, we got this. There's a
Speaker 3: reason that there's no ring. George Hill saying this instead
Speaker 3: of multiple ring winner Lebron James same age, and Lebron's like, shit,
Speaker 3: I'm thirty six. I don't have any time to waste.
Speaker 3: I got a legacy to build people. I have more
Speaker 3: rings to accumulate. I am the greatest of all time.
Speaker 3: The Lakers have one goal in mind, and it's like, yo,
Speaker 3: let's repeat. I don't know what all these other people
Speaker 3: are doing these jamokes, but we're gonna stay focused and
Speaker 3: they're doing everything they can.
Speaker 4: We haven't heard a peep about not a close.
Speaker 3: Contact, not a COVID case, not anybody breaking protocol. Lebron
Speaker 3: has got them locked in. No one's chirping about the
Speaker 3: rules and LA is ground zero. That's the highest amount
Speaker 3: of COVID cases in the United States is Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: and we haven't heard a thing.
Speaker 4: And instead they're like just clowning teams.
Speaker 3: You got Lebron James doing the Steph Curry turn around,
Speaker 3: shoe shoe, you know, close my eyes, do the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Just clowning beating teams, night after the night. So I mean,
Speaker 3: COVID is gonna be here to stay.
Speaker 4: It is. We know this.
Speaker 3: We're no, we're not getting a vaccine anytime soon. I
Speaker 3: mean not in the near future. At least teams that
Speaker 3: are gonna survive A advances are gonna be the ones
Speaker 3: that continue to be available. So there's a reason all
Speaker 3: of us to say, Marty, there's a reason that George
Speaker 3: Hill is who he is and Lebron James is who
Speaker 3: he is. One guy is bitching about protocol diversity, saying
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do whatever I want to do. I don't
Speaker 3: care if it's good for the nation, if it's good
Speaker 3: for the NBA of game stop, they continue, who cares?
Speaker 4: I need to do me? And the other guy's like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna block it all out. It's all noise.
Speaker 3: Take whatever happens in stride, get the rest of the
Speaker 3: guys to do exactly the same.
Speaker 4: Fall in line. No one's talking shit.
Speaker 3: That's the difference between a guy with zero championships, a
Speaker 3: role player, and a guy with multiple championships, a guy
Speaker 3: who is being bounced around the league, and a guy
Speaker 3: who is the greatest player of a generation.
Speaker 4: And that is facts. So George Hill, you need to
Speaker 4: just be quiet for a little while. Sh be qualiet.
Speaker 4: All right, let's it's some voicemails. See what people have
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 7: Hi, christ you know I have a question for the podcast.
Speaker 7: I just want to know when you're going to apologize
Speaker 7: for me. My name is Ada Banark. You're the that
Speaker 7: said that I don't guess shit out of my ass too,
Speaker 7: and you were wrong. So I would just like to
Speaker 7: know when you know you're gonna ad trust that to me.
Speaker 7: I would like an apology because you're wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I don't know if you know this
Speaker 3: bad story and I neglected this in my James Hardened segment.
Speaker 3: So I had it on good authority that James was
Speaker 3: going to the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 4: I tweeted that about a month ago.
Speaker 3: I knew from someone that I trusted, that was very
Speaker 3: high up in the organization that it was gonna go down.
Speaker 3: I'm not a newsbreaker, I know nothing about trades, free agency, anything,
Speaker 3: but this was like the one little feather that I
Speaker 3: had in my cat. So I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tweet this right the sour is very very strong.
Speaker 4: Be strong.
Speaker 3: And then this guy, Adam tweeted at me and said
Speaker 3: I was being responsible for saying irresponsible for saying that.
Speaker 3: And I said back to Adam, It's not like I'm
Speaker 3: just guessing this shit out of my I asked Adam,
Speaker 3: why would I do this if I didn't think that
Speaker 3: someone was that this information was correct. Turns out the
Speaker 3: nets then did the unthinkable. They did something I could
Speaker 3: have never foreseen. I don't think anyone in the NBA
Speaker 3: could have foreseen this. By the way, Chams had it
Speaker 3: tweeted about the seventy six ers, Mark Stein was tweeting it.
Speaker 4: So I was feeling good.
Speaker 3: I was feeling good all the way up until the
Speaker 3: trade went down. Four first rounders. As we said, four pickswaps.
Speaker 3: In what universe could that have been foreseen? KD is
Speaker 3: gonna be forty by the time the Nets has their
Speaker 3: own have their own draft pick back. So, Adam, I
Speaker 3: am addressing this now, and I'm not sorry.
Speaker 4: I do not apologize. This was the unknowable.
Speaker 3: And under the same circumstances if I I would have
Speaker 3: known how it all was going to play out.
Speaker 4: The truth is I do it again.
Speaker 3: I was so close to vindication, so close to my
Speaker 3: little victory lap. And I love to be right. I
Speaker 3: love being right when everyone thinks I'm wrong. I love
Speaker 3: being right and telling everybody I'm right and them having
Speaker 3: to swallow it. So no, I do not regret the tweet,
Speaker 3: and I will not apologize.
Speaker 4: Let's go to the next one. Fuck you, Adam.
Speaker 8: Hey, I'm a six Ers fan, and you know other
Speaker 8: fans from other teams, you know, they criticize Ben Simmons shooting,
Speaker 8: and you know I try to, you know, Freese pass it,
Speaker 8: and you know talk about how you don't need to
Speaker 8: and you know you'd rather see him just you know,
Speaker 8: get to the rim more past distribute. But deep down,
Speaker 8: if I'm being honest, I think it's fucking ridiculous. I
Speaker 8: can't shoot. It always been a little like five years,
Speaker 8: and like does he practice it? Like it never looks good.
Speaker 1: It never has its likely never will. But like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck?
Speaker 8: Why can he shoot? He's a professional basketball player and
Speaker 8: his dad was a professional basketball player, and he didn't
Speaker 8: teach his son how to shoot, Like what the fuck
Speaker 8: was his dad doing? So I don't like to admit it,
Speaker 8: but like, what the fuck Ben Simmons.
Speaker 4: That's a correct take, Marty.
Speaker 3: You can tell the guy was just like working it
Speaker 3: out in his mind as he was.
Speaker 2: Confessing that was a defeated man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a man who you know, has
Speaker 3: like multiple burners. He's in there and he's like Ben Simmons'
Speaker 3: greatest one two seven times five four, right, and he's
Speaker 3: like in he's like Ben Simmons doesn't need to shoot.
Speaker 3: He's the greatest rebound, he's defensive guy, and in his heart,
Speaker 3: he's like I'm so tired for sticking up for Ben Simmons,
Speaker 3: and thank you for admitting what everyone knows about Ben
Speaker 3: Simmons is that.
Speaker 4: He's just not worth it.
Speaker 3: It's sad and the truth is the truth, which is yes,
Speaker 3: why isn't your dad teaching If your dad's a pro
Speaker 3: basketball player, why doesn't he teach his little son when
Speaker 3: he's like five years old to just put up shots
Speaker 3: over and over and over.
Speaker 2: Well, and you'd think by pure reps now, because it's
Speaker 2: not like he's not putting up jumpers when he goes
Speaker 2: to the gym, how.
Speaker 4: Many jumpers is he putting up? Though?
Speaker 2: Just by naturally being there, you're gonna put up jumpers.
Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, it's just weird, but
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, he went to my alma mater, LSU,
Speaker 2: and he never learned how to shoot. And I defended
Speaker 2: him till the day we got eliminated from NCAA tournament contentions.
Speaker 2: So I'm I feel for this guy. We've been through
Speaker 2: a similar thing, he said.
Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I think it's fucking ridiculous. Oh God,
Speaker 3: he's never gonna learn how to shoot. He never will.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if it looks good. He is unwilling
Speaker 3: to change. He is on They paid him the bag.
Speaker 3: Why would he shoot? Why would he What a great confessional.
Speaker 3: We need more of these. Let's get another one. Oh yeah, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty seven one hundred and thirty four.
Speaker 3: By the way, that was the last game that they
Speaker 3: played against the Heat, thirty two minutes.
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons played.
Speaker 3: Two shots, two shots, and I'm sure.
Speaker 4: They weren't jumpers.
Speaker 7: Everyone.
Speaker 1: This is a Tyler congrats on the new podcast. I
Speaker 1: have a question for you. How do you think the
Speaker 1: shorter league affects the overall season. Do you think it
Speaker 1: creates more rest time for the players or less stressed,
Speaker 1: or do you think it's harder because each game has
Speaker 1: a little bit more weight to it.
Speaker 3: Thanks I would say that it's even though there's less travel,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be more difficult to win against teams because
Speaker 3: you're playing on back to back and you're doing that
Speaker 3: back to back multiple times. On top of that, you've
Speaker 3: got all of these crazy restrictions, a bunch of unknowns.
Speaker 3: So I don't think Tyler, that each game has more
Speaker 3: weight to it because the season is shorter. I think
Speaker 3: it's just like COVID, it makes things. This may be
Speaker 3: the most difficult ring to win. People are gonna say
Speaker 3: that there's an ascarisk around it, but I think it's
Speaker 3: with everything that's going on, it's the toughest guys are
Speaker 3: gonna be lost, anxious, frustrated. You're gonna have guys, You're
Speaker 3: gonna have rosters playing with seven guys on them. Sometimes
Speaker 3: leaders are gonna be the ones that can get guys
Speaker 3: to fall online and follow the rules, and the other
Speaker 3: ones are gonna be just out there in the wind.
Speaker 4: So shout out to.
Speaker 3: Tyler aka t Loan aka the Zodiac Killer for that voicemail.
Speaker 3: We will see you guys next week. That is all
Speaker 3: the time that we have for this league. What a
Speaker 3: crazy ass episode, Marty, Holy fuck. This may be one
Speaker 3: of the craziest moments that we've had in NBA history.
Speaker 3: And it happened just a couple of days ago, and
Speaker 3: now we have two years of drama between James Hard
Speaker 3: and Kyrie Cady.
Speaker 4: This thing is endless material for us.
Speaker 2: That's why the NBA is the best.
Speaker 4: That's why the NBA is the best.
Speaker 3: Please subscribe, please rpe, please review that it means so
Speaker 3: much more than you.
Speaker 4: Think it does.
Speaker 3: Apple and Spotify put a bunch of weight on that.
Speaker 3: So also we have this league. Hoodies, they are fired.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring you one, Marty, so that you can
Speaker 3: wear it.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Again for listening and we will be back
Speaker 4: Monday