1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burger Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Break for Friday, June second. Coming up today, the Senate 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: passes a dead deal. It now awaits President Biden's signature. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Wall Street prepares for masage jobs for. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Board, Jamie Diamond heads to Taiwan after wrapping up his 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: visit to China. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: And a big shipmaker reports earnings in the midst of 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: the ai frenzy. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: The White House says President Biden is fine after he 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: took a tumble on stage. Plus the piano man's record 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: run at Madison Square Garden is coming to an end. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: I'm Michael blarm or Ahead, I'm John Stanchern. Sports easy 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 4: wins for the Nuggets. They beat the heat to start 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 4: the NBA Finals. The Mets finished a suite for the Phillies. 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 5: That's all straight. 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 6: Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The business news you need 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 6: to sturn your day in just one fifteen minute podcast 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 6: each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business Appen everywhere 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 6: you get your podcasts. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Good morning, I Maybe Morris and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today, Karen. The Senate has 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: passed the debt limit bill. The vote came late into 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the night after a day long debate over budget cut. 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer says Democrats managed to preserve 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: their agenda. 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 7: The bill preserves the lion's share of the historic investments 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 7: we've made to grow our economy make the US more 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 7: competitive on the world stage, which the Republican caucus in 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 7: the House seemed intent on tearing down. They didn't get 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 7: to do that. 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: Instead, Schumer says they were able to keep funds in 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: place for infrastructure and job growth. This as Minority Leader 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell says, the bill is a step in the 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: right direction, but make. 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 8: No mistake, there's much more work to be done. The 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 8: fight to real and wasteful spending is far from over. 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: McConnell calls the bill a quote step toward fiscal sanity. 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: The measure now goes to President Biden, new plans to 39 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: sign it just days ahead of a US default. 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Well amey the bill by a vote of sixty three 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: to thirty six. Five Democrats voted no, and several Republicans 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: voice strong opposition to the measure. Senator Ran Paul said 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: the measure doesn't go far enough to reign and spending. 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 6: A debt deal that creates no limits to the debt 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 6: accumulation over two years is not fiscally responsible and should 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 6: be rejected. 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Senator Paul voted against the bill, so did Mike Braun. 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: We spoke with the Republican Senator from Indiana just ahead 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: of the vote. 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: This is just the beginning of future agony until we 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: get some discipline in common sense and the guardrails which 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: we do. 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: Not have currently. 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: And Senator Braun spoke with Joe Matthew and Kaylee Lines 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Sound On. Catch the program weekdays at one 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: pm Eastern and listen to the show on demand wherever 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,559 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: And with the threat of a default squarely behind us, 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: attention turns now to today's jobs report. Economists forecast a 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: gain of one hundred and ninety five thousand jobs in 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: May and an employment rate ticking up to three point 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: five percent. From Bloomberg Economics, corresponded Michael McKee. 63 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 9: The May jobs report is expected once again to show 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 9: a slow down in the pace of hiring, but although 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 9: that's been the case for some months now, it really 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 9: hasn't happened. Hiring has exceeded forecasts in nineteen of the 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 9: past twenty months. That's not what the FED wants to see. 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 9: Unemployment is expected to tick up, but only because more 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 9: people entered the labor force, not because companies are letting 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 9: people go. That's also not what the FED is looking 71 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 9: for At the moment. Investors see the Central Bank on 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 9: hold for June, but a strong report could lead to 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 9: a repricing if the data show the FED may not 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 9: have yet done enough to beat inflation. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak. 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, thank you well. After wrapping up his 76 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: high profile trip to China, we're learning that JP Morgan 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: CEO Jamie Diamond is planning to visit Taiwan, and we 78 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: get the details from Bloomberg's John Tucker. 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 10: John, Good morning, Karen. 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 8: It's a trip that requires some delicate navigating the landscape 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 8: dotted with geopolitical hostilities. China always has something to say 82 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 8: when political figures visit Taiwan. Beijing fears it's going to 83 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 8: give Taiwan the image of a sovereign nation. It claims 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 8: the island as part of Chinese territory. A Diamond plans 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 8: a meeting with around five hundred local employees and customers. JPB. 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 8: Morgan's Taiwan operations include corporate and investment banking, commercial banking, 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 8: and an asset management business. He's at least the third 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 8: major global CEO to have visited Taiwan over the past 89 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 8: two weeks. In New York, I'm John Tucker Bloomberg Daybreak. 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, John. First it was Jamie Diamond, 91 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: then Elon Musk. Now we're learning of another big name 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: planning to visit China. Bloomberg Stephen Angle reports from Hong Kong. 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 11: Another one of the top billionaires in the world, in fact, 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 11: who just lost his title as the world's richest man 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 11: to Elon Musk. 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 10: This week we're. 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 11: Talking about Bernard Arnault, the LVMH billionaire CEO. We're hearing 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 11: he's planning to a visit to China this month. Obviously, 99 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 11: the consumer is key to the big luxury brands, and 100 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 11: the consumer is sort of reluctant to spend right now. 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Steven Angle notes China's the world's biggest luxury market 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 2: per capita. This visit would be the LVMH CEO's first 103 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: trip to China since the pandemic. 104 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: And Amy Apple is planning a deeper push into China, 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: along with other parts of Asia. It's part of the 106 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: iPhone maker's efforts to expand and revitalize its retail chain. 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Sources a Apples looking to open fifteen new stores across 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: the Asia Pacific region, as well as five locations in 109 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Europe and the Middle East, plus four additional outlets in 110 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: the US and Canada. In total, the company is proposing 111 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: fifty three new, relocated or remodeled stores over the next 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: four years. 113 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Turning to markets, another chip maker highlighting artificial intelligence and 114 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: its earnings report, broadcoms as AI spending is helping fuel sales, 115 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: but not enough to offset a broader post pandemic slowdown. 116 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: Those details from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. Broadcom is one of 117 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: the world's biggest chip makers. It said revenue in the 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: fiscal third quarter will be about eight point eight five 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: billion dollars, of four point six percent from a year earlier. 120 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: Though that tops the ANOS estimate of eight point seven 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: six billion, it would represent its slowest growth in years. 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: On the plus side, the forecast suggested Nvidia is not 123 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: the only chip maker benefiting from the AI frenzy. Broadcoms 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: networking components helped direct traffic between computers in giant data centers, 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: and it's a maker of custom chips for some of 126 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: the biggest cloud computing providers in New York. Charlie Pellett 127 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Daybreak, Thank you, Karen. Time now for a look 128 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: at some of the other stories making news in New 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: York and around the world. For that, we're joined by 130 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Bark. 131 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Amy. The White House says 132 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: President Biden is fine after he took a fall on 133 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: stage at the US Air Force Academy graduation ceremony in Colorado. 134 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: Biden had delivered the commencement address and shook hands with 135 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: graduates when he appeared to have tripped on a black 136 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: sandbag on the stage. Biden got back up and joked 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: he got sandbaged. Meanwhile, Former President Trump reacted to the. 138 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 6: News he actually fell down, Well, I hope he wasn't hurt. 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: Trump made his comments while campaigning and Iowa. We're learning 140 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: more about the last few days of Jeffrey Epstein's life 141 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: in a Manhattan jail cell. According to newly obtained records 142 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: by the Associated Press, Epstein called himself a coward two 143 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: weeks before ending his life. The disgrace Financier complained he 144 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: was struggling to adapt to life behind bars following his 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: July twenty nineteen arrest on federal sex trafficking and conspiracy charges. 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: The Disgrace Financier was under psychological observation at the time 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: for suicide attempt just days earlier that left his neck 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: bruised and scraped. Two more members of a far right 149 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: group have been sentenced for their roles on January sixth. 150 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: More from Bloomberg's Dan Sportsman. 151 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 10: Two more oathkeepers have been sentenced to prison for their 152 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 10: roles in the January sixth attack on the Capitol. Edward 153 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 10: Valeo received a three year sentence, while Roberto Minuda was 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 10: sentenced to four years and six months. Valeo was also 155 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 10: sentenced to three years of suit provis release following his 156 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 10: prison term. The government was looking for a sentence of 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 10: seventeen years for each of the defendants. Last week, the 158 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 10: founder of the far right group, Stuart Rhodes, received by 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 10: far the longest sentence of anyone who's been trying for 160 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 10: January sixth, receiving an eighteen year sentence handed down by 161 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 10: United States District Court Judge A Meet Metta in New 162 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 10: York on Dan Schwartzman Bloomberg Radio. 163 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: The average annual cost of raising a child in America 164 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: is nearly twenty one thousand dollars. That's according to a 165 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: study by a financial information provider smart Asset, which analyzed 166 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty one metro areas across the country. 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: Billy Joel says his record breaking stay at Madison Square 168 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: Garden is about to wind up. 169 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Piano. 170 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: After one hundred and fifty shows, Joel announced that his 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: run will end. His MSG tour began almost a decade 172 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: ago with the promise that it would last as long 173 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: as the demand continues. Joel says, I'm kind of fibergasted 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: that it lasted as long as it did. The first 175 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: of the final ten shows to take place on October twentieth, 176 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: Global News twenty four hours a day, powered by more 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: than twenty seven hundred journalist and menalyist and over one 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: hundred twenty countries. I'm Michael Barr. This is Bloomberg Gaming. 179 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg 180 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: Sports update. For that, we bring in John stash. 181 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: Houer, thanks Amy. 182 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: The NBA Finals underway in Denver, where the Nuggets have 183 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: yet to lose in these playoffs and where there had 184 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: never been a finals game played before. Denver jumped in front, 185 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: led by seventeen at halftime, beat the Heat in Game one, 186 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: one oh four ninety three. Yet another triple dubber for Nicolo. 187 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: Jokichi's had them in six of his last seven games. 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: He had ten assists by halftime score twenty seven. It's 189 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: been only taking three shots in the first halt. Jamal 190 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: Murray scored twenty six, so did bam Adebayo in defeat. 191 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: He didn't have much help. Max Strus and Duncan Robinson 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: together took fourteen three pointers and missed all but one. 193 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: The Nuggets took twenty three throws and the Heat took 194 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: only two. 195 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: That's a playoff rerecord. The Denver coach Mike Malone, I. 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 12: Remind you our group if they didn't know, then Miami 197 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 12: went into Milwaukee in one game one, they went into 198 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 12: the Garden in New York City in one game one, 199 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 12: they won Game one up in Boston, so we did 200 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 12: not want them coming in here taking control of the 201 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 12: series on our court. 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: In two Sunday. 203 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: Stanley Cup Final begins tomorrow Florida, Vegas Yankees and Dodgers. 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,239 Speaker 5: Tonight in La Luis. 205 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: Savarino against Clayton Kershaw, Metzalef Justin Verlander on the mount 206 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: of City Field versus Toronto and Met's finished a sweep 207 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 4: of the Phillies, whin he four to two, so they 208 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: only gave him three runs in three games. Mark Canna, 209 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: who drove in all four runs Wednesday, had the big 210 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: hit again. 211 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: At two run Homer to snap a tie. 212 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: Americans moving on at the French Open, Taylor Fritz Fancas 213 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: Tiafo both in four cents. 214 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: Coco Goff straight sets. 215 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: Good match coming up today, Top seat Carlos Elcarez versus 216 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: the Canadian Dennis shapavallav Rangers acquired Patrick Kane at the 217 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 4: trade deadline. Now a free agent, He's not gonna be 218 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: able to play for four to six months hip surgery. 219 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: Tom Brady and Sissy's retired. People connecting dots. He might 220 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: play for the team that he just became a part 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: owner of, the Las Vegas Raider. 222 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: John Stash Bloomberg sports. 223 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 6: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 224 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 6: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias Exam the Bloomberg 225 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 6: Business Appen Bloomberg dot com. 226 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Hi, good Friday morning. 227 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm Amy Morris. Earnings expectations on the rise, corporate confidence 228 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: starting to recover. Stocks have climbed after the debt ceiling 229 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: deal passed its last congressional hurdle. Laurie Calvasina is head 230 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: of US Equity strategy at RBC Capital Markets, and she 231 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: joins us now to talk about all of it. Laurie, 232 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: thank you for taking the time with us this morning. 233 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: That debt ceiling deal it passed late last night. How 234 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: does that fit into your outlook? 235 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 13: Well, thanks for having me as always Amy, And look, 236 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 13: I think that one of the things we heard over 237 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 13: the last month or so was non US safe investors, 238 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 13: particularly the hedge flang community. I've been looking at the 239 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 13: debt ceiling as a reason to be negative on the 240 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 13: US equity market, and to be fair to them, it 241 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 13: is something that traditionally, when we've had the dramas, has 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 13: knocked the market down pretty hard. When you looked at 243 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 13: US and based investors, they were more of the opinion 244 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 13: that we would get a deal done, and they were 245 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 13: looking for maybe some short term dislocations where they could 246 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 13: scoop up some stocks on the chief. They didn't end 247 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 13: up getting that, but I think that's one of the 248 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 13: reasons why the market didn't sell off, you know, kind 249 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 13: of heading into this drama. Now that being said, I 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 13: do view a resolution as a positive because if we 251 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 13: go back to that kind of non US based, you know, 252 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 13: kind of hedge fund type investor, we've pulled off a 253 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 13: reason that they had they had coming into the summer 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 13: to be very negative on the US equity market. So 255 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 13: I want to see how the market trades over the 256 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 13: next few days. I do think that this debt ceiling 257 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 13: drama was one more reason to push people out of 258 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 13: cyclicals and into tech stocks. If that reverses, we'll see. 259 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 13: I have to see, you know, how the market digests 260 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 13: that in the short term. But I do think in general, 261 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 13: this is a very very good development heading into the summer. 262 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for futures seem to really like it. Down's 263 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: already up one hundred and forty points. The Treasury, though 264 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: depleted its cash buffers in the run up to the 265 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: debt ceiling and now has to build that back up. 266 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: Is this going to tighten liquidity? 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's TVD. We certainly hear about that concern. 268 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 13: I do think though, if it does end up impacting liquidity, 269 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 13: it's one of many different factors driving the market right now. 270 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 13: And I do think that ultimately what's going to drive 271 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 13: stock prices in the second half of the year more 272 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 13: than any you know, other technical measure is going to 273 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 13: be whether or not we get a recovery in the 274 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 13: economy and in the earnings back drop in twenty twenty four. 275 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 13: And so far those stats are holding up. If you 276 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 13: look at earnings forecasts, if you look at GDP forecasts 277 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 13: on the street, the bulk of the damage to the 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 13: economy and the earnings backdrop are expected to be limited 279 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 13: to twenty twenty three. Stocks are very forward looking right now, 280 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 13: and as long as we can keep that recovery thesis intact, 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 13: I think we're going to you know, sort of weather, 282 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 13: any you know, kind of technical storm. 283 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: Do you expect that to impact equities? 284 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: You know? 285 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 13: I do think that, you know, with the liquidity measure, 286 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 13: I think we have to wait and see, you know, certainly, 287 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 13: if we're looking at where markets are right Now we 288 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 13: just raised our target forty two to fifty, and we're definitely, 289 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 13: you know, right up in that we have thought that 290 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 13: if you looked at the tech trade in particular, you know, 291 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 13: conditions are ripe for a breather. I hesitate to use 292 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 13: the word pullbacks because I think that sounds a little 293 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 13: bit more nefarious than it is. But I do think 294 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 13: that we've done so much work in the market it 295 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 13: wouldn't be surprising to me to see the market take 296 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 13: a little bit of a sigh of release, you know, 297 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 13: an edge back. That's the kind of thinking that's embedded 298 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 13: in that kind of flat target through year end. But 299 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 13: we'll have to see if it manifests. Certainly some of 300 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 13: our models are pointing to upside to forty four hundred 301 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 13: or forty six hundred. 302 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: Now you just touched on it. I want to dig 303 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: a little bit deeper. You up to your year end 304 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: target for the S and P five hundred. Why'd you 305 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: do that? 306 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Well? 307 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 13: Look, see, you know, I've been on the road six 308 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 13: of the past seven weeks, you know, frankly, you know, 309 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 13: all over the country, both in the US and outside 310 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 13: of the US, talking to investors, and it was just 311 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 13: clear to me after those travels that the bears on 312 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 13: this market have been dead wrong, and they've been dead 313 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 13: wrong for bad reasons, and we really wanted to articulate 314 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 13: that with our target, is there a massive, you know, 315 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 13: kind of upswing moving from a forty one hundred number 316 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 13: which was our private target, to forty two to fifty zero. 317 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 13: But we really wanted to reiterate the view that, given 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 13: you know, the distance that we've traveled in this market, 319 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 13: we do think that these moves have been deserved. We 320 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 13: do think it's wrong to take a deeply negative view 321 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 13: from here. We do think that we are in a 322 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 13: messy post crisis normalization period. We don't buy the idea 323 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 13: that this is a bear market rally. We think some 324 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 13: of the concerns about bread are overblown. And frankly, we 325 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 13: think our recession was priced in in October and a 326 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 13: very onerous earnings backdrop was priced and in October, and 327 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 13: we think a lot of the bears have simply forgotten 328 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 13: that stocks are discounting mechanisms, and so we wanted to 329 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 13: really articulate what we thought was going to drive markets 330 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 13: in the second half of the year. And we do 331 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 13: think it's that recovery thesis. We also think that valuations 332 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 13: can be higher than some of our peers do simply 333 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 13: because of the moderation inflation and stabilation of a stabilization 334 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 13: of interest rate environments. The bearish sentiment that's been in 335 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 13: place is a contrarian bisignal in and of itself. And 336 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 13: think that we're in earning svision recovery period now. So 337 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 13: we really wanted to articulate those things very briefly. 338 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: We got about thirty seconds here. What are you watching 339 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: for for today? 340 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 13: In terms of today? You know, we don't have our 341 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 13: own forecasts on the economic data, but we do watch 342 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 13: for how we trade relative to consensus. I want to 343 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 13: see this sort of how the market digest this employment print, 344 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 13: regarding obviously what the set is going to do next. 345 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 13: There's been a kind of shift in thinking that we're 346 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 13: due for another hike to come up, you know, obviously, 347 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 13: you know, I think markets would do well if we 348 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 13: saw some of those expectations reduced, but we have to 349 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,479 Speaker 13: see what the data shows. 350 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: You are listening to Bloomberg Daybreak today, your morning brief 351 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: on the stories making news from Wall Street to Washington 352 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: and beyond. 353 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 354 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: Eastern each morning on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 355 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 356 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 357 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 358 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one in Washingtonloomberg 359 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: one oh sixty one in Boston, and Bloomberg nine sixty 360 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. 361 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 362 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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