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Speaker 1: here today, a whole bunch to talk about with opening

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Speaker 1: But we start with some bummer news. Bummer alert here,

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Speaker 1: major bummer alert. Nolin's rookie forward Zion Williamson it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be sidelined up to two months after undergoing surgery on

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Speaker 1: his right knee. On Monday, the Pelicans said Williamson was

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Speaker 1: diagnosed with a torn lateral meniscus, and the timetable is,

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Speaker 1: you know, for his return about six to eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Based on that schedule, we're likely not seeing Zion until

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Speaker 1: mid December, maybe even close to the start of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: How much does this suck? We were trying to stay

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Speaker 1: a period of weeks, but it turns out surgery is

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Speaker 1: he's going to be about six weeks. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty panicked. I gotta be honest. I'm usually pretty

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Speaker 3: calm when it comes to players injuries, but in this case,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what to believe. Because we were

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Speaker 3: yeah he, did he, did but he's definitely a six to.

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Speaker 3: Sixer and Maybe i'm just extremely bummed because we got

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Speaker 3: that preseason taste of how great he.

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Speaker 3: RIDICULOUS i, know we talk a lot about who's who's

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Speaker 3: do About. Zion SO i. WAS i was just, amped

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Speaker 3: AND i you, KNOW i didn't really follow him a

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Speaker 6: Happen you guys can't see, him But tass has torn

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Speaker 6: out the majority of his hair already and it's still. Early,

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Speaker 6: yeah we just got this news last. Night it sucks.

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Speaker 6: Hard lee was. Right a number of weeks could be

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Speaker 6: Eight that's a pretty big. NUMBER i, mean you, know

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Speaker 6: know what's. Happening the doctors are going to make the.

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Speaker 6: Call But tassa is. Right the guy has six six

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Speaker 6: out of his. Knees that doesn't sound like a good

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Speaker 6: start to his. Career but the good thing is it's

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Speaker 6: Nutritionists he has people who are gonna teach him better

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Speaker 6: ways to fall on the. GROUND i Remember Dwayne wade

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Speaker 6: used to always get hurt in his career until he

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Speaker 6: learn from people who are dedicated to. Biomechanics he's super,

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Speaker 6: he's going to be learning from you, know bigger, people

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Speaker 6: more knowledgeable people than he's ever known before in his.

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Speaker 7: Back you just can't help but sort of think About

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Speaker 7: Brandon roy, though for me when you hear, meniscus because

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Speaker 7: that's really what derailed his. Career sort of for the

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Speaker 7: first couple of years, there he was. OKAY i, mean

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Speaker 5: Career and, again you.

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Speaker 7: Don't want to get too over the top with these.

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Speaker 5: Injuries he's a young.

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Speaker 7: can recover. From but that miniscus is anytime you're removing

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Speaker 5: Me SO i JUST.

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Speaker 7: Same i'm a big miniscus, Guy SO i, know you, know,

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Speaker 7: very very uncomfortable little start to the season For zion

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Speaker 1: Pelicans, yeah we don't want to freak out too much

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Speaker 1: because we have seen a lot of you, know, rookies

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Speaker 1: came back and still. Dominated Blake griffin, Obviously Joelle embiid

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Speaker 1: start season The pelicans to. Do will they just be,

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Speaker 1: like you know, what let's just wait a. Year let's

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Speaker 1: just completely wait a, year maybe try and get his

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Speaker 1: start of next. Season i'm jumping the. Gun you. Know,

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Speaker 1: AGAIN i hope he's back for Like Christmas day or

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Speaker 1: something that'd be. Fun BUT i think it's sort of

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Speaker 3: Route and that's probably a good thing if The pelicans

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Speaker 3: are doing, it BECAUSE i, think AS i said, YESTERDAY

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Speaker 3: i think we should have some faith in this. Organization

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Speaker 3: they do have fantastic, trainers a training staff as they stole,

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Speaker 3: from you, know The Phoenix. Suns they've got a good

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Speaker 3: group of guys and INTELLIGENT i think front office in.

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Speaker 3: There and you mentioned a guy Like Dwayne Wade, trey

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Speaker 3: a guy who had his meniscus removed when he was At.

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Speaker 3: Marquette he regretted it years. Later he thought his career

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Speaker 3: would have been elongated if he had that. Meniscus that

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Speaker 3: cushioning is exactly what it is still in. There But

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Speaker 3: wade had a really long. Career But wade isn't two

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five. Pounds and THAT'S i think the

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Speaker 3: primary thing that they have to be thinking, about. Right

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Speaker 3: it's just somehow starving the man to get, him to

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Speaker 3: get him slim isn't? That isn't that That he's obviously gonna

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Speaker 3: be ridiculously athletic at two, fifty but, again he's six.

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Speaker 6: SIX i ordered a case OF acv straight down To

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Speaker 6: Smoothie King, arena So David griffin should be expecting it pretty.

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Speaker 6: Soon the guy's got to stay trim just because he's

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Speaker 6: not gonna be able to be on his feet as

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Speaker 6: as much and working out as much while he's recovering

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Speaker 6: from the.

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Speaker 2: INJURY i, MEAN i don't.

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Speaker 6: Know Gilbert arena says he thinks That Zion williamson should

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Speaker 6: Be Dwayne. Wade he should lose enough weight that he's

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Speaker 6: a shooting guard who doesn't have a great touch. Outside

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Speaker 6: he's only six foot. Six that being, said the bulk

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Speaker 6: is what makes him. Great that's why he can slam

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Speaker 6: Into Rudy, gobert And Rudy, gobert a Defensive player of The,

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Speaker 6: year goes flying And zion is still able to. Finish

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Speaker 6: part of what makes him special is the. Size, yeah

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Speaker 6: maybe part of what makes him makes his the stress

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Speaker 6: on his knees has to be the. Size it's a

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Speaker 6: real catch twenty Two.

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Speaker 1: Okay best case. Scenario best case, scenario he comes back,

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Speaker 1: in you, know around that eight week mark and he's.

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Speaker 1: Playing does he have enough games that you know he

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Speaker 1: would be losing? It Could what would that? Be that's

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Speaker 1: a good chunk of games or twenty six?

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Speaker 2: Weeks is twenty games in the? Week says twenty seven?

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Speaker 1: Games, Okay SO i was going to say about twenty

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Speaker 1: five to thirty. Games he comes back and he balls.

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Speaker 1: Out still is that enough still for him to Win

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Speaker 1: rookie of The? Year is that completely after?

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Speaker 7: Now, well, Ironically Brandon roy when he won, it only

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Speaker 5: Games, okay so that's twenty five.

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Speaker 1: AND i Think Mark stein tweeted that the fewest games

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Speaker 1: played by A rookie of The year is Still Patrick

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Speaker 1: ewing with fifty for The knicks in eighty five eighty. Six, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah jeel And bed couldn't do it with Obviously dobity

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Speaker 1: forty one games with but you Got you've still.

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Speaker 5: Got a lot of.

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Speaker 7: VOTES a lot of people still thought he was the best.

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Speaker 7: Player so, YES i think it is in, play but

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Speaker 7: he would need to get. BACK i think closer to

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Speaker 7: the six than the eight week mark. Myself but obviously

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Speaker 7: for The, pelicans they don't care at all obviously about.

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Speaker 7: That their their focus will be on getting him. Right

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Speaker 1: List, Yeah John moran now is the, FAVORITE i, think

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Speaker 3: One he plays fifty five, games though he should win.

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Speaker 3: though it was a ridiculous number of thirty. One if

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Speaker 3: you're fifty plus and You're Zion, WILLIAMSON i think he

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Speaker 3: am still concerned. About, okay this is like his third

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Speaker 1: Shoe, yeah and then he bumped his left, knee you,

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Speaker 3: Think, sure that's the scary.

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Speaker 1: Part that's exactly What i'm. Saying that is the scary.

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Speaker 1: Part there's not, like, oh, wow he landed very awkwardly

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Speaker 1: that makes. Sense he screwed something up in. There let's

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Speaker 1: IS i don't remember that. CLIP i haven't seen that. Clip.

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Speaker 7: Yeah he was cruising along in the. PRESEASON i mean

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Speaker 7: he was shooting seventy percent from the. Floor, yeah and

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Speaker 7: it was that game Against San ANTONIO i think it

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Speaker 7: Court there was absolutely no. CONCERN i would guess from

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Speaker 7: The pelicans that he had some. Injury so maybe he

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Speaker 7: and maybe it. Wasn't maybe something happened in that game

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Speaker 1: Day, oh this is such a bomber. Though it's such

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Speaker 1: a damper on the start of the. Season it's LIKE

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Speaker 1: i was trying to compare. It it's like It's i'm

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Speaker 1: still super excited obviously FOR mba being back in our

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Speaker 1: Clippers but it's like going to like a tailgate before

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Speaker 1: gonna be drinking and hanging. Out but then it. Rains

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Speaker 1: it's literally a, damper and it's like it's just you,

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Speaker 1: concrete and the pouring rain under something like huddled under some.

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Speaker 1: Tent its maybe a little. Cold i'm Still i'm still

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Speaker 1: Game but it's like this sort of. Sucks it's just a. Bummer,

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Speaker 3: It you can be hugging your your beer bro and having.

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Speaker 1: Jared, yeah you're, right you're, right but uh, yeah it.

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Speaker 1: Does it takes a little a little shine off tonight's,

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Speaker 1: opener no. Doubt BUT i guess we Already maybe it

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Speaker 1: because it was, Like, okay he's not, playing and everyone's, like,

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Speaker 3: Christmas, Yeah and Maybe i'm being a bit, naive BUT

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Speaker 3: i thought he was a bit of a superman because

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Speaker 3: he blew through a, shoe because he's a monstrous. Man he,

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Speaker 3: literally you, know fired through a shoe that the upper

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Speaker 3: missed five. Games he was, Fine He's superman and In

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Speaker 3: Summer league he bumped. Knees it really wasn't a big.

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Speaker 3: Deal that seems really really, precautionary you. Know and, uh

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Speaker 3: and then this. ONE i don't, KNOW i was just

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Speaker 3: being naive thinking that it was. Nothing but, yeah, like

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Speaker 3: as you, mentioned, skeets there's no, injury there's no there's

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Speaker 3: no event that took place that we know. Of and

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Speaker 3: so if he just woke up and it was, sore

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Speaker 3: or he was playing with it and it was, sore

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Speaker 3: that's the that's the scary, part is that it could

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Speaker 3: just be deep down that he's got some knee.

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Speaker 5: Issues do you?

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Speaker 1: Guys do you? GUYS i MEAN i asked you yesterday

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Speaker 1: and everyone, said, nope, nope, nope stick on his? Ion

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Speaker 1: is anyone taken someone else has A rookie of The

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Speaker 6: You give me A Jay, barrett oh, Yeah i'm with

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Speaker 6: a bad News barrett as.

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Speaker 2: Well, wow, Yeah i'll flip flop that.

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Speaker 6: Easily When zion was gonna miss ten percent of the,

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Speaker 6: Season i'm, Like, okay that's that's not that big of a.

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Speaker 6: you'll see other guys pick up injuries here and.

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Speaker 2: There they're not not every.

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Speaker 6: Player not every rookie's gonna play eighty two, games, right

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Speaker 6: but now that it's gonna be a third to perhaps

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Speaker 6: a half of the, season if they end up taking

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Speaker 6: it even, Slower i'm just gonna go with the guy

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Speaker 6: WHO i imagine will be getting so much hype playing

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Speaker 6: In New york scoring a bunch of. POINTS i think

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Speaker 6: we're gonna hear a lot more about R. J barrett

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Speaker 6: than we will About Jahn. Morant even IF Ja morant

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Speaker 6: has a better, season he's got the hype machine behind.

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Speaker 2: Him so remix R. J barrett.

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Speaker 5: Time, yeah do.

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Speaker 3: It, Wow i'm. Ready i'm ready to jump as. Well

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Speaker 3: But i'm going to jump To jamaran.

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Speaker 1: Same here jumping. Jaw, Yeah i'm going To John morant.

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Speaker 3: Too you're, Right, trey that he's gonna fly under the,

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Speaker 3: raidar just LIKE i think The pelicans are sort of

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Speaker 3: gonna fly under the radar now because it's small Town

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Speaker 3: memphis And John morant will be putting up better numbers THAN. Rj.

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Speaker 3: Barrett But i've been pretty pumped to see him in the, preseason.

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Speaker 1: And he's been a highlight factory so far. TOO i

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Speaker 1: Know zion's got like the big dunks and amazing, finishes

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Speaker 1: but he's been putting on a show. Too if you've

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Speaker 3: Clips, yeah and so Our jake will definitely get the.

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Speaker 3: HYPE i just wonder how it's gonna fare there In New.

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Speaker 3: York he'll also get a lot of the, uh the

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Speaker 3: opposite of. Limelight he'll get the. Booze he'll he'll get,

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah if that. Happens if the shot doesn't happen as.

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Speaker 7: Well John moran to look to, me it looks a

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Speaker 7: That you, know he's got the good ball handling and.

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Speaker 5: Slick moves like.

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Speaker 7: That so he might get on a half of highlights

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Speaker 7: quite a. BIT i think that some players you're gonna

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Speaker 7: see this. Season but, Yeah i'm going on j the

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Speaker 1: Knicks, okay so we're taking out taking a mulligin with

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Speaker 1: OUR roi. PICKS i said it. There you, know The

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Speaker 1: pelicans have a tough schedule to. START i think of

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Speaker 1: their first twenty, games sixteen come against teams that made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs last. Season it's not going to be. Easy

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Speaker 1: they're on national television a whole bunch here in the

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Speaker 1: first couple of. Weeks, generally when you're on those in you,

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Speaker 1: know on those national televised, games you're playing other good

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Speaker 1: teams because it's a marquee. Game can this team survive

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Speaker 1: Without Zion williamson or is their season sort of over

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Speaker 1: before it even starts in terms of like trying to

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Speaker 2: PLAYOFFS i think they got no chance of making the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: NOW i think the season is over before it, starts

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Speaker 6: because you look at they're big. Pieces they brought In Derek,

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Speaker 6: favors who is a really solid. Guy he helps a

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Speaker 6: good team become an even better. Team the other additions

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Speaker 6: Are Brandon ingram And Lonzo ball And Josh hart who

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Speaker 6: had a so much. Promise we got so much hype about.

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Speaker 6: Him every single. Year they never made the. Playoffs they

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Speaker 6: suffer through the worst stretch In lakers franchise. History So

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Speaker 6: i'm not putting a ton of faith in those three

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Speaker 2: Playoffs along With, FAVORS.

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Speaker 6: I suppose perhaps they still have a, chance so they're

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Speaker 6: that they have their guard, down, say coming in seeing

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Speaker 6: they're not Starting, zion he's not. Playing they don't have

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Speaker 6: their most important, guy the guy we've been game planning

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Speaker 6: against for the entire. Summer so perhaps The pelicans are

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Speaker 6: able to steal some wins that, Way But i'm not

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Speaker 5: Anymore it was going to be harde ful them.

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Speaker 7: ANYWAY i, mean you, know the playoffs was probably the

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Speaker 7: ceiling for, them but it certainly now you just feel

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Speaker 7: that they probably don't have quite enough enough. Depth BUT Jj,

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Speaker 7: reddick that streak's going to.

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Speaker 1: End then remember well that's already hasn't miss the.

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Speaker 7: Playoffs, yeah thirteen thirteen straight appearances in the. Playoffs so

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Speaker 7: but you know they're still going to, be you, know,

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Speaker 7: competitive and that's that's, Okay like it's a it's a

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Speaker 7: CHANCE i think For ingram And Lonzo ball And Josh

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Speaker 7: harten's trade mention that to have a new start, anyway

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Speaker 7: does see what these guys are made. Of So i'm

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Speaker 7: excited for. That and, again from What i've seen in

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Speaker 7: lonso early on in these preseason, games he looks a

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Speaker 7: much better, player looks much more comfortable that shots is looking,

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Speaker 7: better AND i think he's going TO i think he's

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Speaker 7: going to be a better player in this role and

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Speaker 7: in this, environment especially away from the craziness of L.

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Speaker 3: A i'll be a positive pedia for a quick sec

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Speaker 3: before it become. Negative their starting rotation is. Solidified now

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Speaker 3: it's clear who's going to start Without Zion, williamson because that,

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Speaker 3: that you, know was a bit of a question. Mark

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Speaker 3: would Jj read to come off the bench With Brandon

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Speaker 3: ingram come after a? Bench, well now both those guys are,

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Speaker 3: starting along With Derek favors in the front court and

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Speaker 3: Then Lonzo ball And Drew holiday in the. Backcourt so

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Speaker 3: now you know what the heck's going, on and maybe

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Speaker 3: that helps a little. Continuity but they play in The,

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Speaker 3: west and that's that's the biggest. Thing that's just too.

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Speaker 3: Tough if we're ranking one to, sixteen all, right they

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Speaker 3: got a puncher's, chance but not. Now, YEAH i don't think.

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Speaker 1: Either, YEAH i am. EXCITED i, mean this helps Your

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Speaker 1: Lonzo ball most improved player predict. LY i, mean you,

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Speaker 1: KNOW i think it helps it as a. Possibility and,

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Speaker 1: Yeah Brandon, ingram here we. Go he might be able

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Speaker 1: to put up some huge numbers here down In New,

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Speaker 1: orleans and that could be exciting and maybe he. Flourishes

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Speaker 1: so it's gonna be still fun to watch this. TEAM i,

429
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 1: know not nearly as fun As Zion williamson and the

430
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 1: highlights he'd be throwing. Down but tough, schedule And i'm with, you,

431
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,600
Speaker 1: GUYS i think they're still gonna be on the outside looking.

432
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 1: IN i think that was gonna be the case even

433
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,880
Speaker 1: With Zion. Williamson but MAYBE i brought this On. ZION

434
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 1: i gotta, take you, KNOW i gotta take some of

435
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 1: the heat here BECAUSE i had The, sprinkling the Little

436
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 1: Greg sprinkles On Zion, williamson the ten thousand plus ten

437
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 1: thousand FOR. Mvp SO i just put too much pressure on.

438
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 1: HIM i put too much pressure on his, knee which

439
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 1: is the crazy.

440
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 6: Part So, SPRINKLES i Think i'm gonna switch him off

441
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 6: of my first Time All star lock as.

442
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Yeah, rudy.

443
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,239
Speaker 1: We went a little overboard, there didn't. We all, right

444
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,160
Speaker 1: let's let's keep it moving. Here let's let's talk some contract.

445
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 8: Extensions oh, yeah some money being handed out.

446
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,160
Speaker 1: Yesterday the guys are a lot of last, minute last

447
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 1: day contract. Extensions just, Quickly Buddy healed and The kings

448
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 1: they agreed to a four, year eighty six million dollar

449
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: contract extensions with an extra twenty million dollars in. Incentives

450
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 1: right after we got done recording yesterday's, Show, tassi you called.

451
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 1: That that's a check for. You you said it was

452
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 1: going to, happen and it, did and it didn't. Stop

453
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 1: Jayalen brown and The celtics agreed to a four year

454
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: this one anywhere between one hundred and three to one

455
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen million dollar contract. Extension that one's. Done

456
00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: Demontes sabonis and The pacers four years about approximately seventy

457
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: five seventy seven million dollar contract, extension To Jon Day

458
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 1: murray and The spurs four years sixty four, million that's

459
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract. Extension and Then Torrean prints and The

460
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: nets agreed to a two, year twenty nine million dollar contract. Extension, wowsers,

461
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 1: guys of those five which contract extension was maybe the

462
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: most surprising to you that it, happened or just the

463
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: numbers that we that we Saw.

464
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 3: Jalen brown is shocking to.

465
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 2: Me that's a big.

466
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: Number that's a huge number for a guy that's pegged

467
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: AT i guess the highest on a food chain he'll

468
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: ever get is. Three you, know a number three, guy

469
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: maybe two in a if you're being really. Positive, yes

470
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: he had a good run during That Eastern Conference finals

471
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 3: run when The celtics made, it he was scoring eighteen a.

472
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 3: Game but as as you, mentioned those, numbers one hundred and,

473
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 3: fifteen they could get up to for four. Years it's a.

474
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: Ton and WHAT i love about his, agent what he

475
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: did is. Phenomenal he pockets four million. Dollars if he

476
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: plays sixty five or more games in a, season he

477
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,239
Speaker 3: shows up for out of ten, games he shows up

478
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: to work eighty percent of the, days you get four

479
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: million dollar.

480
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 7: Bonus he's played minimum of seventy and three seasons so.

481
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: Far that's an agent doing his. Work that's. IMPRESSING i,

482
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 3: mean that's that. Contract all those numbers you said skeets

483
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 3: for all those, guys that's the one that's based most

484
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 3: on potential somewhere where he hasn't reached quite. YET i,

485
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 3: mean he's good, defensively but he's a. Slasher he's not

486
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 3: really a guy you just give the ball. TO i

487
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: think that's pretty. CLEAR i don't think that's changing.

488
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: All, yeah just the details About Jaalen brown's contract From Chris.

489
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Haynes brown can secure eight million in incentives if he

490
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: WINS Mvp Defensive player of The year or makes one

491
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: of the Three ALL nba, teams and then task you said,

492
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: it epockets four million if he plays sixty five or more,

493
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: games the team wins forty nine or more, games and

494
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: they reach the second round of the. Playoffs so that

495
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: would get is guaranteed salaries one hundred and three, million

496
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: but you could get up to one hundred and.

497
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: Fifteen this is basically is basically guaranteed one hundred and

498
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 3: seven because he's going to show up to work one

499
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: hundred and. Seven that's so what we're talking about is.

500
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: When you can clarify something with seven dollars. Year do

501
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: you think all three of those things have to happen

502
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: to get that four million the?

503
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: Word or is?

504
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 7: It?

505
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: YEAH i think IT'S i think it's just.

506
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: One, well he's the First celtic to sign a rookie

507
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: scale extension Since rondo in two thousand and, nine, too

508
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: so they'll do this.

509
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: OFTEN i Guess danny feels he can trade a twenty

510
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: seven million dollars a year.

511
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 7: Contract, YEAH i THINK i think so NOW i, THINK

512
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 7: i mean last season he came off the bench a Lot,

513
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 7: jalen he sort of adapted his, role AND i think

514
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 7: that season where they made the conference, finals he was very.

515
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 7: Good he took a step backwards clearly the season after

516
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 7: that last, season BUT i think he's a very very good.

517
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 5: PLAYER i, MEAN i.

518
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 7: Think this is just a show of faith that The

519
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 7: celtics are going to give him a larger role and

520
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 7: expect him to perform. Better and if, not he's young

521
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 7: enough that this isn't going to sabotage a.

522
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: Franchise a contract like.

523
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 7: THIS i know it's big, money twenty plus a, year

524
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 7: but these days that's not you.

525
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 6: Know he's getting, that no. Doubt in the, summer the

526
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 6: free agent class isn't looking. Strong he's Mary Ata, Brown

527
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 6: he's from here In. Atlanta The hawks are gonna have

528
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 6: tons of cap. Space he would be a perfect fit

529
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 6: on A hawks. Team no doubt they would have offered,

530
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 6: him you know. Whatever they can offer him four years

531
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 6: and then you're getting a player. Option this, way at

532
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 6: least The, celtics you, know lock him in and they're,

533
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 6: saying you're gonna have more opportunity of this, Year Kyrie

534
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 6: irving is. Gone you are a part of our. Future

535
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 6: we want you to have a little bit more control

536
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 6: of the. Offense let's see if he can do. It

537
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 6: he's had one really good, season the year where he

538
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 6: shot almost forty percent from. Three let's see if that

539
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 6: was not a, fluke because his other two seasons he's

540
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 6: just been an average. SHOOTER i don't feel like we've

541
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 6: seen a lot of improvement For Jalen. Brown he can

542
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 6: play his way into that. Contract that's what The timberwolves

543
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 6: were hoping With Andrew. Wiggins as we've, seen it hasn't necessarily.

544
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 6: Happen the question now Is Jalen brown going to be

545
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 6: more like An Andrew wiggins or more like A Jimmy.

546
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 6: Butler he has seemed like both at times to. Me to,

547
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 6: me probably he's gonna be at his best when he's.

548
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 6: Thirty that's a long time away from. Now he's only

549
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 6: twenty two years. Old who knows if The celtics still

550
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 6: have him eight years from. Now but he needs a

551
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 6: little bit of bulk BECAUSE i think he's really gonna

552
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 6: thrive when he can play against slower.

553
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: Guys where he's showing off his athletic.

554
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: Advantage which of these five guys that signed, yesterday is

555
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: It Jalen brown or is It Buddy heel or is

556
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: it one of the other guys who's gonna have the

557
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: best Career of these five, guys if you had to,

558
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: pick not.

559
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 6: Easy But buddy's already great at. Something he's already one

560
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 6: of the best shooters in THE. Nba he's going to

561
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 6: finish his career as a top ten all time makes

562
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 6: in three point. Shooters if he makes two hundred a

563
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 6: season for the next seven, years he would be in

564
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 6: the top ten right. Now guys will pass him in the,

565
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 6: meantime but he's going to be on the top list

566
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 6: of all. Time he's made the most threes in his

567
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 6: first three seasons of any player of all. Time he's

568
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 6: a modern, player so to, me he's kind of already

569
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 6: there as long as he's able to stay on the.

570
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 6: Court he's not a guy that's like mixing it up

571
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 6: inside taking nasty, falls and he's he's shown some, availability

572
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 6: no doubt in his, Career SO i would roll With,

573
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 6: buddy especially it seems like he's on a pretty good,

574
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 6: contract especially when you see What Jalen browns.

575
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Getting i'd sinks The kings knock this one out of

576
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: the park with This Buddy heel contract because his salary

577
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: declines like eight percent year over, year so it's going

578
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: to only take up like thirteen to five point thirteen

579
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: point five percent of the cap in his final. Year

580
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: that leaves The kings with some, flexibility financial flexibility down

581
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: the road when they're gonna have all these other. Contracts

582
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: they got to sign With fox And, bagley so that's.

583
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: Smart and then, yeah it's, LIKE i, Mean, lee there's

584
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: an incentive in here From Jason jones And Sam ammick

585
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: at The, athletic a reachable. ONE i think For buddy

586
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: to play at least seventy games and shoot eighty five

587
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: percent from the free throw, line he gets half a

588
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: million for.

589
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 7: That, wow that's that's the sort of contract THAT i,

590
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 7: like incentivized guys to make free throws because we just

591
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 7: know how important they. Are But buddy is a good.

592
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 7: Shooter it took him a couple of years to find

593
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 7: his stroke obviously in the, league like most young players.

594
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 7: Do but THE i mean eighty five, Percent like that's,

595
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 7: yeah everyone should be.

596
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: Shooting, yeah, REALLY i mean it's. WILD i, mean if

597
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: he's fewer than two turnovers per, game there's another half a.

598
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: Mill if he leads the league and made three, pointers

599
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: there's another half a. Mill if the defensive rating is

600
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: below a certain, number another half a. Mill so like

601
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: a lot.

602
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 7: Of the, career eighty seven percent from the free throw line,

603
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 7: already so he, basically you, know keep doing what you.

604
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: Do oh maybe that money will get in his head

605
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: now when he's out the.

606
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 7: Line, well you know, what, though partly he doesn't shoot

607
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 7: a lot of free throw so, maybe you, know maybe that's.

608
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 7: It they want him to get inside and drive a bit.

609
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 7: MORE i don't, know but that does seem fairly attainable for.

610
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: Him and if he's to lead the league in med three,

611
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: Pointers i'm happy it's med three pointers and not three point,

612
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: percentage or he will he would never be throwing up

613
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: the half court heave at the end of a buzzer

614
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: with that much money on the. Line BUT i guess

615
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: it is just me three, pointers so why wouldn't you

616
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: chuck it? Up hopefully one drops any of the other

617
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: guys jumped out of. You Sabonis smurray PRE.

618
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 7: I honestly think the pace has got a bargain there With.

619
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 7: SABONAS i think he's a very very good, player and

620
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 7: last season he spent a lot of time coming off the.

621
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 5: BENCH i think he's a good. REBOUND i think he's

622
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 5: a very good.

623
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 7: DEFENDER i think if he can improve his three point,

624
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 7: shooting he shoots a good, percentage but he doesn't shoot that,

625
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 7: many but he shoots well from the. FLOOR i think

626
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 7: that's that's going to be a fairly manageable. CONTRACT i

627
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 7: don't really see him being any in any way sort

628
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 7: of negative to that. TEAM i think he brings a

629
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 7: lot AND i think he's going to continue to get.

630
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 7: Better and then also if they didn't sign him to,

631
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 7: THAT i think there would have been plenty of interest

632
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 7: in him next season as a free. Agent SO i

633
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 7: think The, PACES i think that one they're going to

634
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 7: look at in four. Years some, go, yeah we got

635
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 7: a pretty good price for a guy who's a very

636
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 7: reliable player who continues to.

637
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: Improve but do you Think sabonis And miles trying to

638
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: can work, together, well, yeah basically similar.

639
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 7: Numbers now that's obviously the question right. Now AND i

640
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 7: think what The paces did was, like let's just sign them.

641
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 6: Up.

642
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 7: Both they Signed milestone last season and let's see if it.

643
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 7: Works if it, doesn't you can easily be able to

644
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 7: trade one of those guys because neither of them has

645
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 7: a contract that is. UNTRADEABLE i think they will probably

646
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 7: focus more On Miles. TURNER i think that would be

647
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 7: their preference to keep. Him but if they can figure

648
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 7: out a way to keep Some bonus And turner working,

649
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 7: together THEN i think they've got a very good sort

650
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 7: of front court rotation.

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Speaker 6: There.

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00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: YEAH i think all the guys you Mentioned skids are

653
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: pretty talented, guys all these guys you've, signed AND i

654
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: think The spurs got a nice discount on de JOHN.

655
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: T murray as, well probably because he was injured last,

656
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: year miss the entire year last, year or maybe it's

657
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: just because The spurs and they get. Discounts. Period sixteen

658
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: million dollars a year for a guy who's already made

659
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: An all defensive team as a, kid he is going

660
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: to shut guys down on that, end and he's shown

661
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: a little bit Like Lonzo, ball that he's got a

662
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: new shot this year during the. PRESEASON i think that.

663
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: GUY i don't want to, throw you, know That curry

664
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: contract into this conversation Because curry is a very different.

665
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: Guy but BUT i mean That curry ankle contract when

666
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: he was a kid and they got a huge discount

667
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: In Golden, state that four year. DEAL i think this

668
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: is going to play out the next few, years, like

669
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: this guy is your lead guard and he's on the

670
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: floor all the, time and you're paying him sixteen million

671
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: dollars a. Year that's that's, nothing and The spurs are

672
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: not going to let him fall. Off SO i like

673
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: the hot. DOG i Liked Jean murray. There that's a good.

674
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: One and Then torrian prints for the. Nets it looks

675
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: like pennies in comparison to all these other. Numbers but you,

676
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: know for two years of twenty nine, million he's a

677
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: guy who could probably make shots Around kyrie and.

678
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: Friends that's what they're hoping makes them open three, pointers

679
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: especially When.

680
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Kevin durant comes back and it's only two.

681
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 6: Years it's kind of lining up perfectly With kyrie And Kevin,

682
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 6: Durant toki to, say this is our. Team this is

683
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 6: a young guy that we're going to keep. Around hopefully

684
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 6: he's able to reach its potential that he showed sometimes In.

685
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 6: ATLANTA i agree with you, though That Dejonte murray contract is.

686
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Nice at the.

687
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 6: Very, Worst he's getting sixteen million a, year which is

688
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 6: kind of What Ricky rubio is making this. Year not

689
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 6: totally different, players you, Know murray perhaps a little bit better.

690
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: Defensively rubio is a better, creator no, doubt more established

691
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 6: as a lead, guard playmaker sort of. Type but there

692
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 6: was a whole bunch of De Jonte murray buzz heading

693
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 6: into last season before he picked up his. Injury The

694
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 6: spurs were really excited about, him and then they were

695
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: really excited About Derek. White so maybe it's just kind

696
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: of all of our guards we think are super.

697
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: Good BUT i don't.

698
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: Know i'm big On.

699
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 6: MURRAY i thought he was exciting coming out of the.

700
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 6: Draft it was cool to see him transform into a

701
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 6: lockdown defender in.

702
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: The point guard.

703
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 6: Position he's got a future Like tassa that he already

704
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 6: made An All Defensive. Team he's already established himself a little,

705
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: bit so a tiny discount for The, spurs But murray

706
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 6: gets the lo walking some money coming off an.

707
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: Injury that's.

708
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Nice always nice to see these guys at the end

709
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: of the first round, too get these rookie, extensions Like

710
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: Pascal siakam going twenty seventh and signing his big. Deal

711
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: MURRAY i think went twenty ninth in his draft there

712
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: in that twenty sixteen, draft and he's getting his. Money,

713
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: guys what? INCENTIVES i gotta ask, you, guys what incentives

714
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: would you like added to your no dunks slash athletic?

715
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Contract for? Anything it could be something you've got to

716
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: hit or something you've got to remove from your podcasting.

717
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: Game how did it come to?

718
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 6: Mind we've been getting a lot of tweets lately saying

719
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: are you guys still going to count? Weggies of course

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00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 6: we're still going to count weggies eight, Right and if

721
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 6: we get the fifty wedgies in THE nba, SEASON i

722
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: want the athletic to buy us One dinwitty. Dollar, oh fifty,

723
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 6: wedgies one Din winty. Dollar it's one hundred and fifty

724
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 6: thousand for the base investment into THE, ddp the Din

725
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: Witty dollar. Plan you get, that you're getting two and

726
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 6: a half percent or whatever it is for the first two,

727
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 6: years then four percent after.

728
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: THAT i don't. Know Kevin arnovitz wrote up a.

729
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 6: Great thing AT espn that's very, confusing BUT i know

730
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 6: that if we get to fifty. Wedgies then somebody buys,

731
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 6: us buys it for, us we can at least figure it.

732
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Out then it's a good.

733
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: IDEA i think if IF i can go like a

734
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: podcast or two without saying no, DINKS i should make

735
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: more money or maybe not saying, bonkers WHICH i like

736
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: to say a. Lot SO i think it's for. Me

737
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: it's like words THAT i say too often that IF

738
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: i remove, THAT i then get more. MONEY i think

739
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: that would be a fair. Contract i'm with.

740
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: YOU i would LIKE i would love to get paid

741
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: for WORDS i removed from my VOCAT i would be.

742
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: Fantastic we've been doing this so. Long words just come. Out,

743
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean you, KNOW i, MEAN i mean for,

744
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Me i'd like to get that. REMOVED i don't say it,

745
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: often But i'd love to get that. Removed you KNOW

746
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: i say too? Much uh and uh that is, well.

747
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: Well you got.

748
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 7: IT i Would, Yeah i'd just like to be incentive

749
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 7: used to stay out for the second half of those

750
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 7: ten Thirty West coast tip.

751
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: Offs, really all, right you're gonna get it paid to stay? Up?

752
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah come up at six o'clock every, morning, right

753
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 7: no matter. What so you Know i've got To i've

754
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 7: got to have something there that keeps me up BECAUSE

755
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 7: i always watch the second half in the. Morning but, yeah,

756
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 7: MAN i don't know how you can how you can incentivize.

757
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: It maybe supply me with these butchers all season. Long

758
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 7: BECAUSE i hit up public this, MORNING i think the

759
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 7: two five is running, out SO i.

760
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: KNOW i Know i've got like nine in the fridge right.

761
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Now SO i got tonight you will not stay up

762
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: to Watch leakers?

763
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: Clip, well so tonight you know tonight key a.

764
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 7: Game, Yeah i'll probably make the exception because it's the

765
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 7: season open a, tonight but A tuesday.

766
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 5: Night if you're staying up for that.

767
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 7: Until one o'clock in the, morning, man my week is

768
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: just toast after. That Especially i'm home alone too right,

769
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 7: now So i've got both. BOYS i, mean it's uh, Yeah.

770
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: I'll fight through it. Tonight Where's.

771
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 7: Roxy she's with, you, Man she's in the in the

772
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 7: tea dot, oh roxies up. Here, yeah she's probably going

773
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 7: to the game. Tonight did you play up here at a?

774
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Vault?

775
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

776
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Excellently good for the game.

777
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 5: Today i'm Maybe i'm not. Sure i'm not. Sure she

778
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: had a dinner with some, Gills but you know is.

779
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Roxy getting a raptor's?

780
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: Ring what did she she was? There she was there

781
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 5: For game one of the. Finals that historic. Moments that's.

782
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, well let's hear from you. Guys maybe some

783
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: incentives that you would like to see added to our

784
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: No dunks Podcast athletic contract let us know hashtag no.

785
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: Dunks The Athletic guys unveiled yesterday a whole new library

786
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: OF nba, podcasts including six national. Shows now we got

787
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: nineteen team specific, ones got ones for The clippers and The,

788
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Speaker 1: Lakers Clip city and The Forum. Club you can listen

789
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: free On, Apple, spotify wherever you get your. Podcasts there

790
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Speaker 1: will be weekly bonus, episodes though exclusively for subscribers on The,

791
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: athletics so make sure you use our subscription. Code let's

792
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Speaker 1: see IF i can do, IT i would say in

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Speaker 1: no dunks, HERE i mean no. Dinks NOW i. Can't

794
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Speaker 1: athletic dot com slash no dunks to get forty percent,

795
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Speaker 1: off The athletic Dot com slash no dunks to get

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Speaker 1: forty percent. Off, yes there's there's. Almost some people are

797
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Speaker 1: now complaining there are.

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Speaker 5: Two MANY nba.

799
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: Podcasts it's like Task back of The day saying a

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00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: shooter could be too wide. Open, yeah there's too many,

801
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: now but there's there's a lot of great ones obviously

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00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: with the athletic, there so go check those.

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00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 5: Out the new name is gonna be do you even? Podcast?

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00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: BROKE i love saying bro Man, MAN i know you

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00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: get five dollars. EXTRAS i got a run here on

806
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: this podcast all, Right speaking of the athletic. Guys yesterday

807
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: on the, site there was a great roundtable article featuring the,

808
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: staffs national writers and insiders making SOME nba predictions about

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00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: the upcoming twenty nineteen twenty, season answering some sort of

810
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: all encompassing, questions AND i thought there was some really

811
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: fun questions in that. Article So i'm gonna ask you

812
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: guys these. Cues we can talk them. Out one of

813
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 4: the one of the first ones was what's the most

814
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 4: intriguing storyline heading into this?

815
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Season what do you guys?

816
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 8: Pick for?

817
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 7: Me it's The Houston rockets and what will go on

818
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 7: there With James odd And Russell Westbrook because if doesn't,

819
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 7: work where do these guys go from? Here you, Know

820
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 7: James harden has been very close to making the finals

821
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: with The rockets two years. Ago last, season, again When

822
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 7: Kevin durant went, down The rockets had a chance to

823
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 7: at least advance past The, warriors and they weren't able

824
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 7: to do. That he hasn't really been able to work

825
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 7: with another. Superstar didn't work there With Dwight. Howard things

826
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 7: With Chris paul went closer than did With Dwight. Howe

827
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 7: but now he's got someone who he has played, with

828
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 7: he has had success. With but that was such a

829
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 7: long time ago That i'm not sure it's even relevant

830
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 7: coming into this. Season but, really The, rockets they've got

831
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 7: Both harden And westbrook have enormous. Contracts they're both thirty or.

832
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 7: Older so things don't work out here for The rockets this.

833
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 7: Season what do they? Do do they move on from

834
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: one or both of those? Guys that's the question. There

835
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 7: but if it all comes, together maybe The rockets are a.

836
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 7: CHANCE i don't think. SO i think this is going

837
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 7: to backfire on. THEM i don't really see them as

838
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 7: a genuine contender right, now but maybe. Wrong i'm Just

839
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 7: i'm just fascinating to see exactly which way this will.

840
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: Go my storyline is about the. Top it's about who

841
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: is the best player in the, Game who will all

842
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: THESE nba podcasts be talking about as the best guy

843
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: in the, league especially Considering lebron this could be his

844
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: last crack at that, title considering he's going to be

845
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: thirty five On december. THIRTIETH i always remember that because

846
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: it's always my wife's birthday every single. Year she's younger Than,

847
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: lebron that old. Fart but also the relationship he has

848
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: With Anthony davis is extremely interesting to. Me when we

849
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: look at that, team who are we going to be

850
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: considering the number one on that team when they start

851
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: to play. TOGETHER i, think in, theory As lebron has

852
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: pumped him up during the, offseason that it would Be Anthony.

853
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: Davis but when it comes down to, it Isn't lebron

854
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: going to Be? Lebron it sure feels that, way and

855
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: that's Why i'm. Intrigued you, know it's easy to say

856
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: When lebron is, injured, well CO whi is the? Best,

857
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: yeah of Course yannis is the. Best but Now lebron's

858
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: back in the league and it's time for some. Fun

859
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: and plus you have that added mix of him playing

860
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: with a great player again and those two balancing it,

861
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: out and we're going to get it On night. One

862
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool to See bron, fresh which again has

863
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 3: been a very long time playing with a freak In Anthony.

864
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: DAVIS i think it's easy to forget because he played

865
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: In New, orleans because he missed the postseason quite a,

866
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: bit didn't have a lot of national spotlight how incredible he.

867
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 3: Is so, Yeah i'm going back to one of the big,

868
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: coast one of the big. Teams but, yes it's exciting

869
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: to see What bron's going to.

870
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 5: Do.

871
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Well i'll jump in here because my most intriguing storyline is.

872
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: SIMILAR i guess in a, way it's The Lakers clippers

873
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: like The hallway series, here AND i, know for the most,

874
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: part the players and the organizations have sort of been

875
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: trying to downplay, that but let's be. Honest they're playing

876
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: in the same, building and we're talking four of the

877
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: best players in the, world with two on each, team

878
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: and then There's Alex. Caruso and now it's already starting

879
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: to ramp up a little bit. Here maybe this rivalry

880
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: Because Doc rivers Told Mark spears the other day that

881
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: The lakers Counting minnesota titles actually bugs him a little.

882
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Bit they won a couple of titles, back you, know

883
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: the sixteen time world, champions but only eleven of them

884
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: came IN la In Los. Angeles SO i love. THAT

885
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: i think it's starting here, already, here these two teams

886
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: clashing and obviously playing four times and then hopefully in

887
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: a playoff series because they've never met in a playoff.

888
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: Series The lakers have been. Great The clippers generally have.

889
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: Sucked they came close in two thousand and six when

890
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: The clippers beat The nuggets in five and then The

891
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: suns though beat The lakers in. Seven that remember that,

892
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: series and we would have had A Son's clipper excuse,

893
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: me A Clippers lakers. Otherwise but they've never met in

894
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: the playoff. Series that's got to change this. Year So

895
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: i'm all. In i'm fascinated and pumped about The Lakers

896
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: Clippers Hallway series or whatever the heck we call this, One,

897
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: trey where are you?

898
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 6: Going this is working perfectly because my storyline, is, seriously The.

899
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 6: Clippers we're taking The. Clippers. Seriously you guys have been

900
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 6: watching THE nba for thirty. Years, lee you've been watching

901
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 6: THE nba for four. Years The clippers have been a

902
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 6: joke for ninety five. Percent of those years that we've,

903
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: watched when they Had Blake griffin And Chris, paul it

904
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 6: was they were. CONTENDERS i never personally took him super

905
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 6: seriously BECAUSE i Think Chris paul is a super meltdown.

906
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 6: ARTIST i also Think Paul george is a super meltdown,

907
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 6: artist so it's good to see him still keeping a

908
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 6: little bit of The clippers flame. Alive But i'm now

909
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 6: looking at This clippers team who signed two HUGE la

910
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: based free agents over A Lebron james team who is

911
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 6: now considered a favorite in THE, nba And i'm okay

912
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 6: with it because this is a new era for. Us

913
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 6: it's a new era for THE. Nba i'm trying to

914
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 6: see it with new. Eyes i'm okay with The clippers being,

915
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 6: Great but, seriously The. Clippers it's The clippers we're talking about.

916
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Here it Is.

917
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 6: Lee they came out with, like you, know like a

918
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 6: low Rider Los Angeles, jersey and everybody who's like those are,

919
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: cool we're in on The clippers.

920
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: Now it feels very. Strange that's.

921
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: True, well, okay that sort of dovetails nicely into the next,

922
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: question one of the ones on The Athletic roundtable article

923
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: contender with the narrowest title, window it Is.

924
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 6: Houston for, ME i think they could actually win the

925
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 6: title this. YEAR i think they are perhaps the title

926
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 6: contender that gets talked about the least when there's so

927
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 6: much change in THE, nba when new super teams are,

928
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 6: forming when new great teams are, forming the first year

929
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: they're always the worst because during the summer of the year,

930
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 6: after they're going to be able to get role players

931
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 6: for super. Cheap you, know it Was Quinn cook for

932
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: The lakers this, Year Danny green was a big. Signing next,

933
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 6: year they'll be able to get perhaps A Kyle korber

934
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: on a veteran, minimum guys who are going to be

935
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 6: able to chase the title a little bit more. Readily

936
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 6: so that to me is why The rockets need to win,

937
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 6: now especially Like lee is, Saying Tilman ftitam maybe doesn't

938
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 6: have the deepest of pockets to. Add maybe if the

939
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 6: season doesn't, GO i want to move on From. Westbrook

940
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 6: they got to find a way to get him out of.

941
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 6: THERE i don't know what it, is but it feels

942
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 6: Like houston's best chance to win the title would be

943
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 6: this year when everybody is still a little bit, unsettled

944
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 6: they can roll out to.

945
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: MVPs who knows how it's going to.

946
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 6: Work we don't have a long track record of success

947
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 6: with hard and playing with. Superstars but the first year

948
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: With Chris paul was. Great he was AN. Mvp they

949
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 6: won the most games in the, league and they went

950
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 6: to a game seven against The Great. Warriors theme they

951
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 6: were pretty. Close it didn't totally, work but they were.

952
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 6: Close so that's why this year it's got to be

953
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 6: The rockets if they're going to do.

954
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: It how many contenders are? There can we just confirm, this?

955
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Okay because you know the numbers being thrown a lot

956
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: around a. Lot i'm guilty of it as. Well you,

957
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: know is it, six, seven eight? Nine how many teams

958
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: can actually win the title this? YEAR i just want

959
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: to clarify this as we you, know before we tip off.

960
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Tonight who are the actual title contenders as of? Now,

961
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: okay let me say the team and you just agree or?

962
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Disagree Bucks, Yeses sixers, Yes lakers, Yes clippers, Yes rockets,

963
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: yes not for, me, Okay nuggets, yes, yes, okay, Okay so,

964
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: okay so we were sort of like four five ish like. Locks, Okay,

965
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: Jazz i'm, Out i'm, In, Okay, Blazers CAN i get

966
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Any warriors?

967
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: In?

968
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, Okay, Celtics, raptors. Anybody.

969
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: Okay So i've only got two from The, east and

970
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: then whatever.

971
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: Happened, Okay so it sounds like it's not a consensus

972
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: by any, means but generally. Six let's SAY i just

973
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: want to bump that number down a little bit from YE.

974
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: I want to bump it.

975
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: Down you. Don't you don't want, it you don't want.

976
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: It i'm just.

977
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: CURIOUS i was just.

978
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: Curious, well, yeah.

979
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's bucks and. SECTIONS i think everyone can, agree, yes, yes,

980
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: yes in The. East and then it's the two L a. Teams,

981
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: yes that's a. Lock some people don't want to throw the,

982
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: rockets AND i think the rockets have to be in.

983
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: There lead lead doesn't.

984
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: Tend To i'm not putting them.

985
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: In and then The, nuggets they were in the number

986
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: one seed last, year only gotten no better BECAUSE ye

987
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: have a number. Two oh excuse, me they're going to

988
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: win number one this see? You oh, yeah thank? You

989
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: so you know that would make it six if you

990
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: include The, rockets The, nuggets and Then. Jazz The jazz

991
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: The Jazz.

992
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Warriors, yeah, okay, SIX i just want to, Clarify so

993
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: what's the what's the contender then with that narrowest title

994
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: window or do you agree with the with.

995
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: The ROCK i. AGREE i agree with with, trade just

996
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 3: just to jump in, there because they rely so much

997
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: on their number one and number two more than any

998
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: other team in the. League And Russell westbrook has not

999
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: performed well in the last few. Years Russell westbrook's gonna

1000
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: be thirty one really. Soon AND i, Say Russell westbrook

1001
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: hasn't performed very well the last few years in the.

1002
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Postseason he. Hasn't he hasn't been. Elite and if you're

1003
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: going to get the best out Of Russell, WESTBROOK i

1004
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: think it's going to be now when he's thirty. One

1005
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: you rely on him a ton and then if it doesn't. Happen,

1006
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: now this team has been together for you, know a

1007
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: good amount of, time you, know Besides Russell, westbrook how

1008
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: do you move on From Russell? Westbrook that's my. Question,

1009
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: yes You Chris paul was tradable for, him, sure but

1010
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: that can't happen every. Year and there was a reason

1011
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: That Russell westbrook came back in that. Trade because he

1012
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: had a monster. DEAL i think this window is this

1013
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: year or that's. It it just feels like there's so

1014
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: many combustible. Parts mike d'antoni's on his last year of his,

1015
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: deal the depth of the, roster the ownership, situation taken

1016
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: out big debts to buy the. TEAM i don't know

1017
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: what's going on. THERE i think this is. It this

1018
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: is the win for. Me but they could have a

1019
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: number one seed and going into the poor. Season that's

1020
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: how Good jams sorry it.

1021
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 7: IS i think The lakers window is actually not all

1022
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 7: that wide open Because lebron's going to be thirty five

1023
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 7: In december And Anthony davis in the last year of his. Contract,

1024
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 7: Now davis wanted to go TO La he likely will sign,

1025
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 7: there but let's say he. Doesn't The lakers gave up

1026
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 7: a lot of their youth and some future draft considerations

1027
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 7: to get. Him so if things don't go well for

1028
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 7: The lakers this, season you're going to be going with

1029
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 7: A lebron next season who's going to be thirty six In,

1030
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 7: December so thirty six late thirty six when he's gone

1031
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 7: for a championship that following. Season so things have to

1032
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: work for The lakers this year pretty, soon pretty, EARLY i,

1033
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: think or else they've basically mortgaged their. Future to go

1034
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 7: all in right now might work for, Them but if it,

1035
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 7: doesn't they could be facing what they've had over these

1036
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 7: last six, years where it's just been again kind of.

1037
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 7: Disastrous they hung on To kobe for too, long, remember

1038
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 7: and didn't really allow to sort of rebuild through that.

1039
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 7: Era they could be facing something similar again with this current.

1040
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: Team they have.

1041
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Color let's move from teams to. Players the player you

1042
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: think that could surprise? Us who wants to get a?

1043
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: Started which player could surprise?

1044
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 5: Us this?

1045
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 6: Year this Is Drew holliday's ultimate time to. Shine The

1046
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: pelicans are on NATIONAL tv twenty times because they Have Zion,

1047
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 6: williams except for they don't Have Zion, williams and right,

1048
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 6: now somebody's got to be the superstar for. Him Drew

1049
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 6: holliday is a really solid. Player he's really. Good he

1050
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 6: can be An All star any. Season it hasn't happened

1051
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 6: very many seasons one time In.

1052
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: PHILADELPHIA i do.

1053
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 6: Think that if he has his if he's ready to,

1054
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 6: go if the team fits as well as they look

1055
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 6: like they, could if they play, fast if they play

1056
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: to his. Strengths if he's able to play off the

1057
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 6: ball a little bit With lonzo and attack off the weak,

1058
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 6: SIDE i think he can have an incredible. SEASON i

1059
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 6: think he can be An All star again this. Year

1060
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: AND i think people will be excited to See Drew.

1061
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 6: Holliday he's got a fun game to. Watch he you,

1062
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 6: know he gets after it. Defensively he's a, big physical,

1063
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 6: guy and he seems like a really good. Dude seems

1064
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 6: like a great teammate who everybody loves. Him, so you,

1065
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 6: Know i'm always excited About. Drew maybe this is the

1066
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 6: year that everybody else does is.

1067
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: To we shall.

1068
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 6: See he's not the most exciting, player but maybe this

1069
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 6: year he will be playing even.

1070
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: Faster i'll pick us a guy in a small market

1071
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: as well that tends to get, overlooked sort of Like,

1072
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: Drew Marvin. Bagley he's only a year, two but that

1073
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: guy is really really fun to. Watch he's got a

1074
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: lot of, hops he's got a lot of athleticism in that,

1075
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: body and he got lost and sort of the rookies last.

1076
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: Year he just wasn't one of the big, names but

1077
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: he was fifteen points and seven and a half rebounds he's. Goods,

1078
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: yeah and why can't he get up to some juicy

1079
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: numbers this?

1080
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: Year people think he should be knocking on the twenty.

1081
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: Ten, yeah AND i don't see why. NOT i, mean

1082
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: he wasn't getting really regular minutes last. Year he's coming

1083
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 3: off the bench and they didn't really know what was going,

1084
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: on and that's definitely a. Worry And sacramento because they

1085
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: are eleven deep on that. Team they've got a bunch of,

1086
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: centers they got a bunch of, bigs but they Let

1087
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: willie Cally stein go because they. KNEW i Think Marvin

1088
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: bagley could be a center in this. League though he's

1089
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: a little bit, undersized but the guy is. Freakish and

1090
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: once they get the ball, moving because THEY i love

1091
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 3: again were watching them in the. PRESEASON a team wants

1092
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: to play, together and they got a leader In Darren

1093
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: fox who wants to play, together and everybody touch. It

1094
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 3: and once the ball's moving And Marvin bagley gets, space

1095
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: he's going to be room. Rocking SO i think he's

1096
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: going to surprise On house Of highlights and all Those

1097
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: Omar raja is going to be putting him up. Everywhere

1098
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: looking forward.

1099
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: To, Man i'm going With Bam bam down In. Miami

1100
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 5: that's All i'm.

1101
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Going, wow yeah's a holder had him in the.

1102
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: Article, yeah The, Heat The heat a big on this.

1103
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 7: Guy but is he a bi make bimbo or is

1104
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 7: he actually a decent? Player because we know he's incredibly.

1105
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 7: Athletic he loves to run the, floor grab, reybounds block.

1106
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 7: Shots can he now make that step and become a

1107
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 7: legit center in this? LEAGUE i think that's going to

1108
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 7: be a very very important part of what The heat

1109
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 7: do if they're going to be. Successful, so you, know

1110
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 7: him And whiteside kind of were battling there for, possession for,

1111
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 7: position but The heat didn't Want. Whiteside they Wanted BAM's

1112
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 7: athleticism and his work. Eth now he gets that, chance can.

1113
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: He live up to?

1114
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 7: It that's that's gonna be interesting to see because he's

1115
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 7: fun to watch this. Guy but you, Know bismack was

1116
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 7: also kind of fun sometimes to, watch but he never

1117
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 7: was able to really round his game into anything more

1118
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 7: than just a highlight.

1119
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: Package, Really, so.

1120
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: As Hollandrew road he, Said bambiam's really. Good Bam adebayo is.

1121
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: Good he can handle the ball extremely well for a.

1122
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Five he moves, well, DEFENSIVELY i wonder if he's a

1123
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Younger Andre drummond that can actually hit some free throws

1124
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: and pass the ball a little bit.

1125
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: Better.

1126
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't score a rebound as much obviously As

1127
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: drummond or even you, know the block totals don't blow you,

1128
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: away but they're numbers sophomore. Seasons they're per thirty six

1129
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: numbers at least pretty. Comparable and you know that's Like Andre.

1130
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Drummond some people don't love his, game BUT i think

1131
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: in the right, role he's still a, contributors An All,

1132
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: star he's An ALL nba, guy and so it's not

1133
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: a you, know a bad goal for a guy Like

1134
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: bam to. Reach so, YEAH i. WENT i went with

1135
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: him as. WELL i like that, one AND i think

1136
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: he will surprise us on what should. BE i, mean

1137
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: they got some decisions to make. Here if they move some,

1138
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: pieces should be a good team led By Jimmy butler

1139
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: in the. Heat all, right final one guys player you

1140
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: would pay to? WATCH i love this. One who would

1141
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: you pay good money to? Watch?

1142
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: REALLY i assume you don't have an?

1143
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 7: Answer, yeah, question who WOULD i consider paying money?

1144
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 6: For?

1145
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: Hi?

1146
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah great.

1147
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 7: Question luca was for, me he's the GUY i would

1148
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 7: go and pay to see.

1149
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: You here In atlanta last year for FREE.

1150
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: I did the first. GAME i am in love with.

1151
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 5: Him i've got a Big.

1152
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 7: But if you've seen him in the, preseason like, already

1153
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 7: he's just he's he's gliding around.

1154
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: The court and he's hitting.

1155
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 7: Threes he's got the. Handle he's a cool looking. Dude

1156
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 7: he's had a great time With New.

1157
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Gerobili for you yeah maybe like to, me yeah, yeah

1158
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: like next level.

1159
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 7: Maybe but, honestly, honestly he's one of those guys last

1160
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 7: season like watching the maps On League pass when he

1161
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 7: was on the, BENCH i would definitely switch.

1162
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 5: Games that's that's he's got that appeal to.

1163
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: Me yeah look at the.

1164
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 5: Maps yeah, yeah true. That but but likes looking good.

1165
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: Too he's got a tan.

1166
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 7: Man, yeah he's got such a vicious like part on his.

1167
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: Hair it's like it's, like, HONESTLY i think you would

1168
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 7: your finger if you run your fingers through. That boban

1169
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 7: is probably going to do that this, season so we'll see.

1170
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 7: That but he does remind, me not not in the

1171
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 7: way that he, plays but it just in the way

1172
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 7: THAT i want to watch him like A Brandon. Roy

1173
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 7: a lot Of brand And roy talk on this.

1174
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 5: Show you.

1175
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: Getting paid by The brandon, Sentives.

1176
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: But that's under the. Rim takes his time gets to a.

1177
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: Spot, YEAH i mean that's the thing With.

1178
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 7: Luke he's a young, guy but he does have a

1179
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 7: bit of an old man's game sometimes as well like

1180
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 7: he but he's capable as well of exploding for a dunk.

1181
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 7: Inside so, Yeah i'm big On.

1182
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Luca, okay you would actually buy AN nba ticket maybe

1183
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: some game time app.

1184
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 5: Exactly i'm definitely down through the game.

1185
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 6: TIME i heard the tickets get cheaper the closer you

1186
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 6: get to the day for the. Game SO i don't,

1187
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 6: know just some you may want to think about two

1188
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 6: taps for. Me guys THAT i haven't seen THAT i

1189
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 6: would be interested in seeing Ar Damian lillard And Nicola.

1190
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 6: Jokic those are the guys who When i'm hitting the

1191
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 6: hay Early leellis, style having my miracle mornings getting up

1192
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 6: at six am before the, Kids i'm turning On lillard And.

1193
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: Jokic jokic has such an unusual game and such a

1194
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 6: unique game AMONGST nba, players amongst stars that you know

1195
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 6: he has such a finesse game on one, hand with

1196
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 6: the passing and the way he's able to find open,

1197
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 6: shooters open cutters and just just make.

1198
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: Things happen for The.

1199
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 6: Nuggets but then he's also such a brute where he's

1200
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 6: just smashing into. Guys sometimes he's looking to create for,

1201
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 6: others but sometimes it's Just i'm catching.

1202
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: The ball fifteen feet.

1203
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: Out i'm gonna put my big soft shoulder in you

1204
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 6: as many times AS i can and then throw up

1205
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 6: some sort of junk that somehow goes up into the

1206
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 6: rim and sits. Nicely it's a little bit of A

1207
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 6: Tim duncan dinkers and dumpers factor With Nikola. Jokic SO

1208
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 6: i love watching him And lillard time to me is

1209
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: just must watch Test.

1210
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah to, me in the same light As Damian, lillard

1211
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: but a little bit. Heightened It's Steph curry right now

1212
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: Without clay and Without Kevin. DURANT i just have flashbacks

1213
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: of him against The Toronto raptors in the finals there

1214
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: when he had that forty seven point night when both

1215
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: those guys were out and everything was on him and

1216
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: they played the little box and one defense to try

1217
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: and take him away because he was the only guy

1218
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: running around and that's the fun thing about. It WHEN

1219
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: i watch AN nba, GAME i want a guy who's high. Energy,

1220
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 3: yeah it's fun to Watch nikoliokic because he really stands,

1221
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: out who the heck is this guy playing basketball at

1222
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: that slow pace and still getting to wherever he. Wants,

1223
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: yeah he literally. Stands he, does he, does and then

1224
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: he'll just flick it. Up but on the other end

1225
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: or on the other SIDE i guess Was. Steph he

1226
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: flicks it up from forty feet and it's not like

1227
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 3: a guy who's you, know we were getting a few

1228
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: too many guys trying to flick it up from forty. Feet, Obviously,

1229
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: steph when he shoots it from forty it's likely to go.

1230
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: In and if it, doesn't like he airballs it for

1231
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: that first shot And Chase chase center as he. Did

1232
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: we have some. Fun we all had a good. Laugh

1233
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: and at the same, time when he comes, back he'll

1234
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: do it again because he still can do. That so,

1235
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm just. Excited it's a very different era For

1236
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: Steph curry without those two.

1237
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: Dudes to SAY i saw him, play the guy would

1238
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: pay good money to watch would be Still Lebron, James

1239
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: like just you know to say that you actually saw him.

1240
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: PLAY i Think i've only seen him play ever, once

1241
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: maybe once or. TWICE i saw him In you guys

1242
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: aren't going to believe. THIS i saw him In Madison

1243
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: Square garden with my. Buddy oh it was. Incredible, yes

1244
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: that was heat next back in the, day SO i

1245
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: go look for D.

1246
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: Kevin durant Says Madison Square gardens is not. Cool, oh,

1247
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: oh he's.

1248
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: Wrong this is the greatest arena in the world for

1249
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: the show he could put. On you guys said, It

1250
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: steph And. JOKIC i had both of those, guys and

1251
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: then exciting young sort of. PLAYERS i like The luca Wan.

1252
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: LEE i also Put Deerren fox just to see the

1253
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: speed like in, person AND i love how he. Plays

1254
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: BUT i actually and it's funny because there's new sort

1255
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: of breaking right while we're recording this That Steve kurr

1256
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: is Saying Clay thompson is likely going to miss the entire,

1257
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: season which is a. Bummer maybe not all that, shocking

1258
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: But clay if when like to Catch, clay When clay

1259
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: goes crazy when he catches, FIRE i think would be

1260
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: one of the coolest sporting events to be. At when that.

1261
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: Was when you, know when he's going for fifty and

1262
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: sixty and can't miss the, THREE i would have that

1263
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: super high on the. List obviously he's not doing that every.

1264
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: GAME i get, that but, man and just to be

1265
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: in the arena when that would were to happen would be.

1266
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: Awesome but it looks, like, yeah that's. Right it's like a. Picture,

1267
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: yeah it's sort of like the the, opposition like a

1268
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: picture going for a perfect game on the road or

1269
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: no hitter or something like. That it's, like, wow this is.

1270
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: Awesome so, Yeah, Clay but let's hear from, you, guys

1271
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: that's a fun one player you would pay to. Watch

1272
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: let us know On twitter hashtag no. Ducks All, right

1273
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: before we, go, guys we got to make our pick and.

1274
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: Picks if you're new to the, show this is something

1275
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: we've been doing for over a decade. Now every, night

1276
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: the four of us are gonna pick and bet on

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00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: one specific. Game this, year we're using. Lines, guys we're.

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00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: Unleashed we can actually use the betting. Lines it doesn't

1279
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: have to be just who wins the. Game we're gonna

1280
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: keep track of everyone's win loss, record and at the

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: end of the, month the person in last place has

1282
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: to pay it, off basically some sort of. Punishment now

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00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to get a little more creative this.

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00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Year we might have to do it on social. Media

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00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it might work in the audio, format but we'll

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Speaker 1: figure stuff. Out, uh what's our? Game only two games on?

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00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: TODAY i assume we're gonna Go Lakers. Clippers that the closest.

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00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: Line, task it's the closest. Line although you, know the

1289
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: line makes it. Fair so we could pick The raps

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00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: favored by seven at home against The Pelopal that.

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00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Is, true the, line you're, right does make it a, lot.

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00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 3: But The raps are going to destroy The pelot and

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00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: so so we're not going to pick that. Game but,

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00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: yeah The Lakers clippers is basically a coin. Toss The

1295
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 3: lakers are favored by two and a. Half if you're

1296
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 3: not familiar with, lines they have to win by three

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00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: to technically win the. Game if they win by one or,

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00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: two they, lose or if they lose the, game obviously

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00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 3: they lose in terms of betting, here so The clippers

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00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: could lose by two points and still technically win spread Pick,

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00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: okay but it's really it's a coin. Flip you're not.

1302
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: Taking you're not taking the, points or you don't care

1303
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: about the. Points when it's two and a, half you're

1304
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: not taking because they can lose by. Two, Right so

1305
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: it's really a coin. Flip who are you? Picking lakers Or?

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00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 6: Clippers lakers on the, road, man that's tough going in

1307
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 6: The Staples, center in that visitor's locker. Room i'm going

1308
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 6: with The, lakers And i'm Thinking Anthony davis our first

1309
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 6: Whoa boy of The year thirty five and?

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00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Fifteen Ooh Collin woa? Boys?

1311
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: Right why?

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00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: Not, Okay i'm also picking The lakers Because i've watched

1313
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: them more THAN i have The clippers during the, preseason

1314
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: So i'm. Biased, NO i Think kawhi is a little

1315
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: he's a little. Rusty, No Paul george, There i'm happy

1316
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: to take The. Lakers they've looked quote unquote better in the.

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 5: Preseason, Yeah I'm i'm tempted to take The.

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00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 7: Clippers BUT i think this First Davis lebron, game they're

1319
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 7: gonna be pretty hyped. Up they're gonna Be they're gonna

1320
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 7: want to listen a little statement to their cross hold

1321
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 7: rivals that this is our, arena even though we share.

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Speaker 3: It with.

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00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: You so you In lakers two and a.

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 5: Half, yeah oh screw. This i'm not.

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00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Taking The lakers. TOO i was going To i've got

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00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: the boulded here in my, notes but we're not starting

1327
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: to pick. Them payoff with all four guys taking the same.

1328
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: Team gave me The, clippers The clippers at home and the.

1329
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: Points oh, baby we're gonna get this, started all, right

1330
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: bonus pick Them game, two, Guys game one of The

1331
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: World Series Night nationals Are. Astros there you go to

1332
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: break down the.

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Speaker 3: PICTURES i don't even KNOW i Have, norland don't hs

1334
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Speaker 3: hurling on? That, yeah we got justin v.

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00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 6: Sure's theers throwing for The Washington nationals hole Throwing Garrett, Cole, BABY.

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Speaker 1: I have no. IDEA i Go. ASTROS i guess, yeah.

1337
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: You gotta roll out The.

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00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 6: Astros they've just been mashing all year And cole is

1339
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 6: throwing those balls.

1340
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: FAST i, THINK i don't, know he's supposed to be.

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00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: GOOD i think The cinderella run finally catches up to

1342
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Speaker 3: The Washington. Nationals it's not gonna.

1343
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Happen oh, Okay and that's gonna.

1344
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 7: Happy a bit of a disaster FOR, mlb isn't. It

1345
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 7: washington Versus houston when The yankees were in The austriatros

1346
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Speaker 7: are one.

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Of the best team in the league though They, YEAH

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00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: i have no.

1349
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: IDEA i think they let DOWN lb and.

1350
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: Wins they're a very good. Team Is?

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Speaker 5: Strasbourg is he still on the National.

1352
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: Yeah he'll be there Tomorrow strasburg Versus Lander. Wednesday, excellent

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 6: that's back to back pictures tools.

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Speaker 5: Leak oh, well there you.

1355
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: Go a guy who likes boring free. Throws you're gonna

1356
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Speaker 2: love this boring, alright, well.

1357
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: Enjoy game of The World. Series BUT i think you're

1358
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: going to enjoy for listening to this. Podcast opening night

1359
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: of THE nba. Season, baby so so. Excited quick show out, here.

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Speaker 1: Guys happy birthday To mattio In. LA i hope he's

1361
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: going to The Clippers lakers.

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00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 5: Game birthday definitely, Going, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know he.

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Speaker 1: Is, Baby, yeah so happy, Birthday. Mattio that's it for

1365
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: us Today. Again you got about twenty four hours here

1366
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: to get YOUR nba questions in for our first mail

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: bag episode Called Beach Step. In email Us no dunks

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Speaker 1: at The athletic Dot com or tweet at us At

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Speaker 5: Ink can you heard?

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Speaker 2: It here, first have a great, time turn.

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Speaker 8: Up love you.

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: Guys, awesome, awesome thank you for joining. Us, GUYS i

1374
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: Remember madio is gone and FORGOT i mean but forgot embrace.

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 5: Today you could stay, oh every day.

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00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: And i'd be happy every.

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Speaker 3: Minute it's been so long that your the manor wait

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Speaker 3: for