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Speaker 3: Bradsham Welcome everybody. It's Victory Monday. Welcome to the Miller

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Speaker 3: the Star District in Frisco, our regular Monday stop, and

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Speaker 3: it's did I mention It's Victory Monday. So the Victory

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Speaker 3: and tonight you're gonna get a real treat because you're

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Speaker 3: gonna get a chance to meet one of the bright

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Speaker 3: young lights of the Cowboys football team, Donovan Azeraku. Is

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Speaker 3: gonna be here. As a matter of fact, all it

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Speaker 3: took was me saying his name, and here comes Donovan

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Speaker 3: as Aeraku. So give him a great big round of

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Speaker 3: a proper theatrical arrival. So you are right on time.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Hour here at a sidecar social in the Star District.

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Speaker 4: Oh, coconut red bull all day.

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Speaker 3: There we go. That's Nicole right from Nichole's brain pan

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Speaker 3: right to you. And then, of course we're always thrilled

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Speaker 3: very much, and to those of you who are watching

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Speaker 3: us whenever and wherever streaming on dallascowboys dot com, Hi,

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Speaker 3: how y'all, is nice to see you. The Cowboys made

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Speaker 3: a selection in the second round this year that a

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Speaker 3: that of an Ezra Rok, who is just getting started,

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Speaker 3: and today he was the I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: his strong play yesterday by the head coach as did

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Speaker 3: you know that made a special point of saying it.

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Speaker 3: But the first question did I say? Thank you for

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Speaker 5: Thank you for being I appreciate you guys having it.

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Speaker 3: It's Monday night, I mean, you know, But the first

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Speaker 3: question that I think must be answered is what are

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Speaker 6: Honestly I wanted to get a change, but I couldn't. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: But I don't know, we'll have to wait until next year.

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Speaker 6: What did you want to be well, I wore six

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Speaker 3: Well, eleven's available there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I understand that, but.

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Speaker 6: Six is not av six isn't available. So it was like,

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Speaker 5: You know, we can't do seventeen because we got we

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I didn't think I felt any better, just kind

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Speaker 3: Feel for those of you who don't know, Donovan's affiliate kid?

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Speaker 5: I'm a South Jersey kid, your kid a little affiliation.

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Speaker 5: But it was really cool that my family could be there.

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Speaker 6: You know, they were all there, and you know, I

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Speaker 5: They they were there to support me as well.

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Speaker 3: How was it? How was it? Sorry, how was it

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Speaker 6: It was a great atmosphere yesterday. I saw, you know,

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 7: Was that atmosphere, that experience of your first Dallas Cowboy

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Speaker 5: That was That was really what I was pushing for.

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Speaker 7: Have you embraced wearing that star on your helmet because

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Speaker 5: This is what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: And when you played that game last week, you also

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Speaker 3: He was kind of treating you like a little pesky

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Speaker 3: That's a very difficult debut. They're not all like that,

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Speaker 3: but I mean they're all NFL players, so they're all good.

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Speaker 3: So I think my question is, how, if at all,

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Speaker 3: How have you found it different from college football? And

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is different because you know, a guy like that,

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Speaker 6: And sometimes it gets frustrating because I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 5: You have to do for the team. And you know,

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Speaker 6: You know, if you make an inside move, especially you know,

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Speaker 5: You can't do that.

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Speaker 6: You know, something that you can get away with in

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Speaker 3: We are just getting started. And I guarantee you you

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Speaker 3: And welcome back to the Miller Like Cowboys Hour. We

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Speaker 3: give yourselves a hand for coming out. I'm Brad Sham

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Speaker 3: with Nicole Hutcherson and our very special guest Cowboys defensive

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Speaker 3: end Donovan as a Raku.

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Speaker 4: Wait, Brett, I don't think that was enough energy. I

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Speaker 4: There we go that better.

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Speaker 3: I mean, goodness, gracious, how closely were you watching the

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Speaker 5: I was watching it all.

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Speaker 6: But I like the confidence that we have in seventeen

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Speaker 3: So did you know about him when you were drafted,

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Speaker 6: When I when I got down here, I was going

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Speaker 6: I mean I looked at it and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: Like that's he's not just a kicker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean you have a different feed

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Speaker 6: It's just it's just a confidence. That's really, That's really

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Speaker 5: It's different.

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Speaker 6: You know, in college, you never know what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 6: I think we had some you know, a decent, you know,

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Speaker 7: Sometimes that kicker position kind of gets overlooked and underestimated

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Speaker 7: Brandon Aubrey goodness, uh kind of change your perspective of

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Speaker 6: I don't think I never, you know, I ever disrespected.

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Speaker 6: You know, specialists, you know, they kind of do their

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Speaker 5: But you know they put their work in.

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Speaker 6: It's obvious, especially when we go as past teams periods.

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Speaker 5: And you know they're they're getting paid.

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Speaker 6: They they work just as hard, so it's you know

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Speaker 3: You know, they all they have like a little international club.

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Speaker 4: They call them butter.

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Speaker 7: But what's the nickname that you would give Brandon Aubrey.

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Speaker 3: You know where they came from, don't you. We just

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Speaker 3: Are you a pro football fan or you as a kid?

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Speaker 3: What what do you think you can learn from him?

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Speaker 3: What will you try to learn from him?

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Speaker 5: He obviously knows something.

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Speaker 7: the most from you? That again kind of piggybacking off

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Speaker 7: of Brad's question, what do you feel like you can

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Speaker 7: learn and what.

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Speaker 4: Attracts you about his game?

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Speaker 6: I would say, especially now, the way he rushes on

446
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Speaker 6: third down, I think that he does a good job of,

447
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Speaker 6: you know, being productive and getting back to the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I think last year he had a he had a

449
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Speaker 6: couple of sacks to help you know, the Panthers.

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Speaker 5: But that's that's that's really, that's really just it.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be a really good piece to, you know,

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Speaker 6: to our puzzle, especially in that room.

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Speaker 4: And what's your kind.

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Speaker 7: Of thoughts on the potential that his edge rushroom has.

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Speaker 6: I think the sky's a limit for us. You know,

456
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Speaker 6: we've had to face you know, obviously Russell Wilson last week.

457
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Speaker 6: You know, Jalen Hurts, and it'll make it easy because

458
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Speaker 6: they're moving. They move a good amount and you know

459
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Speaker 6: for people that you know think that you know, Wilson's

460
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Speaker 6: kind of older, he moves really well for you know,

461
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Speaker 6: you know how many years has been in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: So I think that you know, as the season continues

463
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Speaker 6: to go on, will be that you know, obviously get

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Speaker 6: back to the quarterback. You know, we got back a

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Speaker 6: couple of times, you know, had a lot of pressure yesterday,

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Speaker 6: a lot of hits, but you know we all went

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Speaker 6: through sacks. So you know, that's that's something that we're

468
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Speaker 6: obviously working and building towards. And I think that the

469
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Speaker 6: sky's the limit.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, if you looked at the list of

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks you'll be playing.

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Speaker 6: I haven't know because I'm very you know, b where

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Speaker 6: my feet are. If we got Chicago this week, that's

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Speaker 6: all I'm worried about. You know, last week was the Giant,

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Speaker 6: so week before that, you know, Philly, whatever the case

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Speaker 6: may be. So I haven't I don't look past the

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Speaker 6: week that we're on.

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Speaker 3: Let me just tell you, I'm not sure you'll play

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Speaker 3: a quarterback who can't run. Yeah, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: They're all gonna run.

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Speaker 6: That's that's I think that's the name of the game.

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Speaker 6: Now We're not just getting quarterbacks who just sit in

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Speaker 6: the pocket. And you know we're not getting Now everybody

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Speaker 6: can move.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's at least a little bit of a little bit mobile.

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Speaker 3: So so i'd like to I'd like to pick up

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Speaker 3: on a conversation we had in training can because watching

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Speaker 3: you in practice. As I told Donovan, we talked in

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Speaker 3: an oxn Art and I said, you know a lot

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Speaker 3: of people down our way didn't watch a lot of

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Speaker 3: Boston College, so now personal uh, and I think that

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Speaker 3: people who watched you in practice were a little surprised

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Speaker 3: to see how solid you were at the point of

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Speaker 3: attack against the run. So tell us two things. One,

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Speaker 3: how does that factor into your self image and what

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Speaker 3: you try to do and and how do how are

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Speaker 3: you so solid at the point of attack when you're

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Speaker 3: the size of a safety.

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Speaker 6: Now, I wouldn't say on the size of the safety today,

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Speaker 6: how about a line.

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Speaker 5: We got some pals on me.

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Speaker 3: But how about life.

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Speaker 5: I think I just wear it well.

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Speaker 6: I think I wear two fifty really well, I will say,

505
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Speaker 6: but uh shoult, I just take pride in it. You know,

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Speaker 6: I understand that you can't rush the pastor without stopping

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Speaker 6: a run first. And I think, you know, that's something

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Speaker 6: that we that's been emphasized as year of course for

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Speaker 6: us at the the defensive line room, and I take

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Speaker 6: it as a challenge. You know, a team will look at,

511
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Speaker 6: you know, a speed guy and say, oh, when he's

512
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Speaker 6: in the game, we're gonna run directly at him, not

513
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Speaker 6: not with me. That's that's that's where my mentality is.

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Speaker 6: I seem I feel like I kind of seem really

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Speaker 6: you know, nice, really good kid, had great parents.

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Speaker 5: Of course we're.

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Speaker 3: Getting we're going to get to that.

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Speaker 5: Obviously.

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Speaker 6: It's a it's a switch that you know, switches gets

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Speaker 6: a switch that flips on the field, so you know,

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Speaker 6: it's kind of you know, having that dog mentality of

522
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm not just gonna let anybody you know,

523
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Speaker 6: bully or push you around.

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Speaker 5: Especially in the run game.

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Speaker 4: He's talked about the versatility.

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Speaker 7: Where do you feel like has been the biggest area

527
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Speaker 7: that you've grown from training camp until now?

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Speaker 6: From training camp until now, I would say in the

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Speaker 6: in Russian going speed to power. I think that was

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Speaker 6: a question mark, you know before, because I didn't really

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Speaker 6: do too much.

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Speaker 5: Of that in college, especially my last year.

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Speaker 6: But understanding it now that that's what you need to

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Speaker 6: set up your speed, you know, at the next level,

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Speaker 6: and you know, obviously practicing during training camp and then

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Speaker 6: now you know in games. I think that's something that

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Speaker 6: I've definitely even improved on.

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Speaker 3: What's the hardest part about doing that speed to power?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're going up against a guy who's you know,

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Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty pounds that that's that's pretty tough.

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Speaker 6: You know, you can lift as you know, as much

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Speaker 6: waste as you want, but you know they do too.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're strong individuals as well. So I think

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Speaker 6: that that's the you kind of got to use.

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Speaker 5: Your you got to use your speed to go power.

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Speaker 6: So if I'm going to burn the edge. I'm going

547
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Speaker 6: to get off the ball and then you know, throw

548
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Speaker 6: that stab in there. I'm talking football and getting really

549
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Speaker 6: come on, don't worry. That's but that's what you got

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Speaker 6: to do. And I think that's what helps you know,

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Speaker 6: the whole speed to power.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you do any sorry, do you do

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Speaker 3: any martial arts?

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Speaker 5: I did practice. I did box a little bit in college.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about, you know, Randy White yea was you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the greatest defensive tackles that

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Speaker 3: ever played, and he became such an expert of the

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Speaker 3: use of martial arts that he still does it today.

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Speaker 3: And gosh, he's almost my age, which is like one

560
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Speaker 3: hundred and forty. His hand usage was part of his strength.

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking about when you get guys like my

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Speaker 3: Lotta or Tyrone Smith or some giant who got his

563
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Speaker 3: hands on you and puts a death grip on there,

564
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Speaker 3: you got to do something to counter that, right, you

565
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Speaker 3: do something get their hands off you. So what specific

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Speaker 3: training do you do to enhance that.

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Speaker 5: Part of your game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So in college I said, I did box, and

569
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Speaker 6: I try to, you know, translate it to football.

570
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Speaker 5: But at the same time. You know, now I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't have that much time to go be in

572
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Speaker 6: a boxing all the time. No, Like, I try to

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Speaker 6: do extra work after practice.

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Speaker 5: And that's you know, grabbing hands or getting you know,

575
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Speaker 5: practicing with you know.

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Speaker 6: Our assistanty line coach. And I also work with Charles Haley.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, m oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: And he's he was big on that, you know, grabbing hands,

579
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Speaker 6: especially when the guys you know, striking you here or

580
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Speaker 6: what do you do in that situation?

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Speaker 5: And so that was like the small things that we

582
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Speaker 5: would work as well.

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Speaker 3: What's Charles like to you know, Charles is an interesting,

584
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Speaker 3: very colorful Yeah, he is in a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: What is Charles like to work with?

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Speaker 5: Interesting guy? But he he'll let you know, you know

587
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Speaker 5: how he feels about you.

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Speaker 6: So for me, he told me that, hey, listen, you know,

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Speaker 6: I want to work with you because I see something

590
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Speaker 6: in you. Of course, so you know I took that

591
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Speaker 6: as a compliment, you know, I he showed respect to

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Speaker 6: a guy like that. But he obviously has knowledge, you know,

593
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Speaker 6: he did at a high left. He won championships year,

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Speaker 6: he won a few. He's a Hall of Famer, So

595
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Speaker 6: you know he knows what he's talking about. But you know,

596
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Speaker 6: he's one.

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Speaker 5: Of those guys that he'll see like, Okay.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to the side to go do my extra work.

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Speaker 6: He'll come over there with me and then we'll get

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Speaker 6: some extra working together.

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Speaker 7: So what's been your favorite piece of advice from Charles?

602
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Speaker 5: He was like, listen, guys are size.

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Speaker 6: He tried to tell me he was lighter than what

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Speaker 6: he was, you know, when he was, you know, first

605
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Speaker 6: coming into the league and sees like guys ourselves, like,

606
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Speaker 6: we can't let them get that death grip on us.

607
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Speaker 6: So obviously you got to work on you know, work

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Speaker 6: on the hands, and I think that's something that we

609
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Speaker 6: just emphasized.

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Speaker 3: But that was the biggest thing I'm trying to remember,

611
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Speaker 3: and then we got to take a break. I'm trying

612
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Speaker 3: to remember when Charles came here from San Francisco, I

613
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Speaker 3: bet he wasn't a whole lot more than two fifty.

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Speaker 3: He's a little taller than you, Yeah, but he wasn't.

615
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Speaker 3: But Kevin Gogan, who was an All Pro tackle here

616
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Speaker 3: and played for the Raiders, played on the Super Bowl

617
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Speaker 3: teams here. When they got him, I said to Gogan,

618
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Speaker 3: all right, what's the deal with Haley? And he said

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Speaker 3: he's as strong as a bull. He will push right

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Speaker 3: through you. And so is that something that you have

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Speaker 3: to continue to work on make sure?

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Speaker 6: I would say so, And I too, I do a

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Speaker 6: good I think I do a decent job. I'm with coach,

624
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Speaker 6: you know, Harold Nash all the time, you know, in

625
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Speaker 6: the weight room, keeping that up.

626
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be fun to watch you over the

627
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Speaker 3: next couple of years because as good you're gonna you're

628
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Speaker 3: gonna be so much better in at the end of

629
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Speaker 3: November than you are now, and next year you're gonna

630
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Speaker 3: be another seventy five percent better than that. It's just

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Speaker 3: exciting to think about. D La Vanezerakuh's our guest on

632
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Speaker 3: the Middle Like Cowboys Hour at Sidecar Social at the

633
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Speaker 3: Star District in Frisco.

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Speaker 9: And we'll be right back pajab wh.

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Speaker 8: No, cowboys, don't cowboys?

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Speaker 1: How pros?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's the Miller Like Cowboys Hour. I'm Brad

638
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Speaker 3: Sham with Nicole Hutchinson and Cowboys defensive end. Donovan Ezeraku

639
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Speaker 3: is our guest this evening. Welcome Donovan again. I know

640
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Speaker 3: you before when he came in.

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Speaker 5: But we are.

642
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Speaker 3: We are thrilled to have him. What is there anything

643
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Speaker 3: about being a professional football player in the short time

644
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Speaker 3: that you've been one that is see, let me just

645
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Speaker 3: tell you something about that. Let me interrupt myself to

646
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Speaker 3: tell you about this guy. Just look at him closely.

647
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Speaker 3: This young man is so intelligent. He is so quick

648
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Speaker 3: and if you watch his face he there, you can

649
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Speaker 3: see the wheels turning. He's getting ready for whatever he

650
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Speaker 3: thinks is coming. Yeah, and if that's not what comes,

651
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Speaker 3: then he is gonna he's gonna be fine with switching

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Speaker 3: to what you give him. I just love that. How

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Speaker 3: is being a professional football player? How does it compare

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Speaker 3: to whatever you thought? And I'm not talking about the

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Speaker 3: stuff we already talked about on the field. How does

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Speaker 3: it compare to being a professional football player the way

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Speaker 3: you imagine did all your life?

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Speaker 5: I think, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think I looked out being a Dallas Cowboy. I

660
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Speaker 6: think the energy in the love is a little bit

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Speaker 6: different out here. So but so I would say that's

662
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 6: different because to me, you know, I went to Williamson

663
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 6: High School, small you know in South Jersey's it's a

664
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 6: big school, but it's not very big. I went to

665
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: Boston College, who you know, they're not the most known

666
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: for football, so you know, just having this love and

667
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 6: this energy around me all the time, or people you

668
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 6: know calling my name when I go out in public.

669
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: To me, I'm just downovan, like I don't you know,

670
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 6: small Nigerian American family, you know, from a small little town.

671
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 6: But to me, it's it's it's really crazy too. You know,

672
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 6: people know who I am and that's a blessing for

673
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 6: me and my family of course.

674
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: And I couldn't I couldn't have it any other way.

675
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 4: I want to get back to your hometown.

676
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 7: It's pronounced Williamstown, right, Williamstown, New Jersey. Is that historically

677
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 7: known as like a football city.

678
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 5: Not really.

679
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 6: We've had some we've had some good football players come

680
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: out of Williamstown, but no, not really they. I mean,

681
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 6: we produce guys, like you know, they send guys to college,

682
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 6: you know, to play football. But in terms of the NFL, no,

683
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 6: I think I think I was the highest. I think

684
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 6: I was drafted the highest that anybody that came.

685
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: Out of Williams football become serious for you.

686
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 6: Shoot, when I put the pads on when seven years old,

687
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: seven years old, seven years old. I knew, I knew

688
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 6: what I wanted to do because I was I was

689
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 6: kind of a it's kind of an aggressive kid growing up.

690
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: So to find what that means New York child.

691
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: So, for example, I played basketball for coach named Coach Antoine.

692
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 6: And you know, my dad sitting over there, he'll tell

693
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: you the story as well. You know, I was, dad's

694
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 6: here tonight. Yeah, my dad's here's dad.

695
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: My dad's back there, he said. He's sitting at the bar.

696
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: He does his own things sometimes.

697
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: All right, hey, it's great to meet you, Ed, thanks

698
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: for coming, thanks for being here.

699
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 6: But shoot, I was falling guys a lot, like I

700
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 6: was just I was rough. I played rough with my

701
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: older brothers. And that's just kind of how I defense.

702
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes I was I was just.

703
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: The annoying brother.

704
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

705
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 5: I was the aggressor that there's a guy right on

706
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 5: the table.

707
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: That's my annoying exactly.

708
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 6: So you know that that's just you know how it was.

709
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 6: So my coach ended up, he's like you just told

710
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 6: my dad. He's like, listen, he should try out for football,

711
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 6: like you know that it might be good for him.

712
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: He was the football coach as well, and so you know,

713
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 6: my mom wasn't really going for it. So I kind

714
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 6: of feel like my dad, you know, he kind of

715
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 6: snuck me out onto the field and boy dad and

716
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 6: it took off from there. I say that I fell

717
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 6: in love with the game.

718
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 5: My mom hated the most.

719
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: Wait why did moms not one?

720
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 5: For obvious reasons like injuries?

721
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so she was she ran track, so

722
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 6: she was a track track girl. So I don't know,

723
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 6: I was a little bit too aggressive for a track

724
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 6: I kind of.

725
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: Need a little bit more football.

726
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: Baby's going to get.

727
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: Hurt one of the positions did you play?

728
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: By the way, she never thought my baby's going to

729
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: hurt someone. She thought someone was gonna hurt you.

730
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: So I think maybe she did think that.

731
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 6: I don't know, because you know, I was aggressive, But

732
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: I played a couple of different positions I played.

733
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: I started off, I played running back.

734
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 6: I feel like every every athletic kid is gonna, you know,

735
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 6: they're gonna find a waited for him to get the ball.

736
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: Played linebacker, played defensive end. Obviously high school, I played

737
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 5: tight end, defensive end.

738
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: Other sports.

739
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 6: Ran track and field in high school. Wasn't my favorite.

740
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 6: My brother actually made me do it because he was

741
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 6: in the track, played basketball, grew up playing soccer, tried

742
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: a little baseball, wasn't the best at it.

743
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: So yeah, I was kind of how good were you

744
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 5: at soccer? You know? When you're like five?

745
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 6: Everybody played soccer, you know what I mean? So super competitive,

746
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: But you know I didn't really see.

747
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 5: That, you know, go anywhere.

748
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 3: You know. That's how Aubrey started.

749
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: Makes sense? That makes Did you know that I did?

750
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 5: We talked about it today in the team me room.

751
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: So just interesting. I wonder if you look at Aubrey

752
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: and said, yeah, we played the same sport as a kid.

753
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 6: Well, like I said to except for maybe Texas, everybody

754
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: played soccer when they're four or five, six years old?

755
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: Here too, Okay, here too.

756
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: So we Donovan and I had this conversation on a

757
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: national radio show in training camp. But I just love

758
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: hearing him talk about it, and he's he's already alluded

759
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: to it. This is clearly a very pleasant young man.

760
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 3: You don't have to be around him or hear much

761
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: from him to think this is someone I would like

762
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: to spend time with. I would like to get to

763
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: know this person. When you're on the field, buy your

764
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: own description not so nice. Yeah, well, where when did

765
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: that start? And how have you fueled it over the years.

766
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 6: I think it's always it's been me. That's why I

767
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 6: started playing football in the first place. Because aggressive, yes, troublemaker, yes,

768
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 6: you know that's that's kind of that's kind of how

769
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 6: I was as a kid.

770
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 5: So I think it all kind of tied into that.

771
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 6: So, you know, I kind of had to learn how

772
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 6: to relax off the field, you know, know that you

773
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 6: know there's time and place, you know, you.

774
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 5: Might see me once in a while.

775
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't think anybody you know, but in my

776
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 6: house and my family, they know me as you know,

777
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: Don's probably you know, he's he might be.

778
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: A little loud.

779
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 6: He's probably gonna be a little obnoxious, maybe a little bit.

780
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 6: You know, he might get a little aggressive, not in

781
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: like a bad way.

782
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: Or anything like that. But you know, I got a

783
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 5: little bit too, So he somebody's gotta do it.

784
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: So somebody's got to teach.

785
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: Somebody's gotta teach him. So that that's pretty much me.

786
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 6: That's that's how I am. But on the field, it's

787
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 6: it's just different. You can't play this game without being

788
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 6: a violent person. In my opinion, you you can't. So

789
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 6: you know, if you don't have any way to tap.

790
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: Into that, I don't know how you. I don't know

791
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: how you've made it this far. But me, I think

792
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 5: I think I'll do a solid drop now.

793
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: At a high level, you you cannot play this game

794
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: without being a violent person under control exactly. You cannot

795
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 3: lose your mind because otherwise you'll be like the Giants

796
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: left tackle yesterday, bless It's hard. How hard is that

797
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: to learn? That's like a human dichotomy.

798
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Speaker 6: We I mean, we talk about it all the time.

799
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 6: You gotta you gotta toe that line. You gotta toe

800
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 6: the cliff. You can't step over you're gonna fall. You

801
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 6: gotta crash and burn. And you know, like you kind

802
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 6: of mentioned, you know, you get kicked out of the game.

803
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: You at the level you have to pay a fine.

804
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 5: There's no they're going to hit your pockets hard if

805
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: you get kicked out of the game. You know.

806
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 6: And also you're hurting your team because you know you're

807
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 6: in the game plan all week.

808
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: Your team needs you. So that's something that you can't do. Obviously.

809
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: You know, things happen, say like in training camp. You know,

810
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 5: you can kind of.

811
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 6: Toe that line a little bit, you can kind of

812
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 6: look over the line a little bit more than you

813
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: know what you can in the game. But you know,

814
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 6: in game in season, that's that's something that you can't

815
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 6: do to hurt your team.

816
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: You said we talk about it.

817
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 7: Is that something that eber Flues kind of mentioned throughout

818
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 7: the time Shy as well.

819
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 6: Coach Flues and you know my defensive line coach, coach

820
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 6: Whitecott and obviously coach Shoty.

821
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Speaker 7: How would you compare Matt Eberflus and coach Whitecotton to

822
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 7: other coaches that you've had coached you throughout your years.

823
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been I was blessed in college to have,

824
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 6: you know, a head coach who's obviously, you know, a

825
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator. Now in the NFL, had a defensive line

826
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: coach and you know a couple of defensive coordinators that

827
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: were extremely knowledgeable.

828
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: At the game.

829
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 6: So I think, you know, the way they compare to

830
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 6: those guys is they know football. You know, I can

831
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 6: trust that when they talk to me about, you know,

832
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 6: whatever coverage or where the rush play or whatever the

833
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 6: case may be, they know what they're saying because they've

834
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: not only done it for a long time, but have

835
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 6: studied the ginning for a long time.

836
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Speaker 7: And those are the two guys that you said earlier

837
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Speaker 7: that have played a pivotal.

838
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Speaker 4: Role on who you've become.

839
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say my d line coach from college events, Ogobasi,

840
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 6: who's you know, a coach of the Packers now defensive

841
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 6: line system over over there. And then my head coach,

842
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 6: you know, they all recruited me at you know, to

843
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 6: go to Boston College, you know, Jeff Haffley.

844
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,560
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Speaker 3: In spite of that.

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Speaker 5: Forty one number, you guys are killing me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not not you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it just doesn't look right.

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Speaker 5: We gotta we gotta talk to the higher ups. Maybe

865
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Speaker 5: they could get us to go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you could change it right now, what

867
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Speaker 3: would you change it to?

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Speaker 5: I can't. I can't say that because my man Dono,

869
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: who got the number?

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Speaker 3: No, but you can't change it to six?

871
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Speaker 5: I can't. But there's no other number available that's like

872
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 5: a good number. Crazy that that's really the whole problem.

873
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: Well, but now we're getting into defining our terms. What

874
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: is a good number?

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Speaker 6: I was filling a single digit and like some numbers

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Speaker 6: in the teens, I don't know. I can't get behind

877
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 6: the whole numbers in the fifties and the nineties. I never,

878
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 6: like I said, I wore eleven in high school and

879
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 6: I wore six in college. I started off with sixteen

880
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 6: my first semester in college, and then I changed it

881
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: the six very fast.

882
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 3: So are all the single digits taken?

883
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, or they're either taken or they're retired. So you know,

884
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 6: we got a we got a decent legacy here.

885
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: Well, they don't retire numbers, but I mean there are numbers.

886
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: You can't worry. Nobody's gonna worry.

887
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 5: Eight.

888
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 6: Okay, seven's taken four of course, of course. Yeah, you

889
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: got three, two, one taken nine obviously.

890
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hm, well that does limit that.

891
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 5: Okay, so all right, we'll have to work on that.

892
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: Okay, we have a Mike Reddie. Here's some questions from

893
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: our audience for Donovan. Go ahead, Hey, Donovan Larry from McKinny.

894
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: First off, I want to wish you an early birthday

895
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 4: ten days.

896
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: Thank you.

897
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, thank you.

898
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: My question is that that picture that you just signed

899
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: when your freshman year in high school. Tell me the

900
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: story about that picture.

901
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 6: That one was a day, a hot day in the summer,

902
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 6: I think during camp and obviously couldn't get a haircut

903
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 6: in time.

904
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 5: I looked insane in that picture, but.

905
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 6: That was just you know, my first year in high school,

906
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 6: just excited for you know what was to come. Obviously

907
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 6: I knew I would be in a situation like this,

908
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 6: I didn't know how or you know, where that journey

909
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 6: would you know, or how that path would be shaped

910
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 6: in anyway that just you know kid, you know, wet.

911
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: Behind the ears, just excited to play football for their

912
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 5: high school.

913
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 3: When did you know you wanted to play professional football?

914
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 5: When I was seven years old?

915
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: When did you know you would?

916
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: When did I?

917
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 6: When did I know I would? I would say when

918
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 6: I got to college and I played against a guy

919
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 6: who's in the NFL right now. His name is Ogie Chappello.

920
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 6: He just got drafted. I actually be seeing him. He

921
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 6: plays for the Bears. He was about six eight, six',

922
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 6: nine three hundred some, pounds and he was kind of you,

923
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 6: know young, too but you know we would go back

924
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 6: and forth during springball and during fall camp my first,

925
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 6: year AND i, said you, know they were, saying you,

926
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 6: know he was AN nfl caliber offensive. Tackle but you,

927
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 6: know LIKE i, said we were going back and. FORTH

928
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: i would have win. Some he, would you, know he

929
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: would win. Some and it's, Like, OKAY i KNOW i

930
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 6: can do. This IF i obviously got to fix some,

931
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 6: things got to get, bigger, stronger, faster and continue to

932
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 6: work and continue to. WORK i know it'll be you,

933
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 6: know in the.

934
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 4: Year, now what does a successful season look like for?

935
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: You donovan As?

936
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 5: Roka, Uh for, ME i feel LIKE i gave like

937
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 5: a like a politically correct answer before obviously helping the.

938
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 6: Team in whatever WAY i possibly, can and when winning

939
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: as many games we possibly can and going to the

940
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: playoffs and making a strong.

941
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: Run you, KNOW i THINK i have MY i have my.

942
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 6: Goals you, know in terms of. Sacks but that's that's

943
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 6: really all it. Is like it might, sound you, know

944
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 6: politically correct or, cliche but that's that's a successful year to.

945
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 6: ME i want to stay, HEALTHY i want to do

946
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 6: WHAT i possibly can to continue to make an impact

947
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 6: and continue to make an impact on the field and

948
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 6: off the. Field tells, OBVIOUSLY i want to get ten plus.

949
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: Sacks that's that's a tough.

950
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 6: Duty That that's just something that you, KNOW i have

951
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 6: for myself every single. Year and IF i, don't you,

952
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 6: know achieve, that SOMETIMES i feel Like i'm my worst.

953
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 6: CRITIC i feel LIKE i fall you, KNOW i fell

954
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 6: short in that AND i got to go back to.

955
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 5: WORK i obviously want to.

956
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 6: Start you, know that's SOMETHING i got to work myself

957
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 6: into that that that's a.

958
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: Goal, lemon for, sure you.

959
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: Had two hurries or pressures. Yesterday is there a difference

960
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: between a hurry and the? Pressure same?

961
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 5: Thing you, KNOW i don't know.

962
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: That.

963
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 5: STUFF i don't know.

964
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: That, well this was The cowboys and stiitions and so

965
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: they listened you with. Two so how how many pressures

966
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: in a game is good for? You?

967
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 6: Honestly you know the pressures are good because they're you're

968
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 6: obviously affecting the, Quarterback you're affecting the game in a.

969
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 6: Way but you know a lot of times people don't

970
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 6: look at pressures and, say, oh, yeah he was definitely you,

971
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 6: know he was a.

972
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 5: Force they look at how many actually got in that.

973
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: Game forget about people, obviously.

974
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 5: You know you gotta. Forget but that that's something THAT

975
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 5: i look at.

976
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 6: Too SO i want TO i want to BE i

977
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 6: want to have a strong impact on the, game of,

978
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 6: course BUT.

979
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: I want to get. HOME i WANT i want TO

980
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: i want to.

981
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: Say, so let me ask you.

982
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 7: Something how much more pressure is on you guys as

983
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 7: a whole to get?

984
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: Home get those?

985
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 7: Pressures considering the vulnerabile vulnerability in the back end The

986
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 7: cowboys have with just injuries right and just trying to

987
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 7: work Back Trayvon. Diggs how much pressure do you feel

988
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 7: like is on you? Guys if there's No if there's,

989
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 7: PRESSURE i don't think.

990
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 6: There's, pressure especially not from, like you, know the outside

991
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: word or anything like. THAT i think the way we

992
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 6: are in our room and how competitive we.

993
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 5: Are we we push.

994
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 6: Ourselves we we're the ones that are putting pressure on

995
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 6: ourselves to get back because we want to be you,

996
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 6: know we want to be the engine of the you,

997
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: know the defense and of the.

998
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: Team we want to.

999
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 6: Affect the, game and and and and so we could

1000
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 6: have you, know it's easy to have all pro corners

1001
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 6: and all pro dbs and linebackers when you know they

1002
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 6: got a really good defensive, line you, know getting back

1003
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 6: to the, quarterback you, know multiple times a. Game so

1004
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 6: that's something that you, know we kind of you, know pushing.

1005
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 6: Ourselves it's not really something that you know that we

1006
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 6: don't really have any kind of outside.

1007
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: Pressure so between you And fowler And Sam williams And

1008
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: marshaw and nieland, who which of those four people believes

1009
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: the most that they're gonna lead the team in?

1010
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 5: SACKS i think we all.

1011
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 6: Do which is which IS i think that's what you

1012
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 6: want to. Hear but that's that's the honest Of god.

1013
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 6: Truth And i'll tell. Him i'll joke around all the,

1014
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 6: time especially With dante because you know dancee is he's the,

1015
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 6: Vet he's the older vet in the. Room he's obviously

1016
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 6: been here for you, know he's had a long career so.

1017
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 6: Far And i'll joke with on him, like, Hey i'll get.

1018
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 6: Back you know you don't want to get back for

1019
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 6: this is gonna be meet his, job and he'll just

1020
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 6: look at me and laugh because he knows that you

1021
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 6: know what kind of COMPETITOR i, am AND i know

1022
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 6: what kind of competitor he.

1023
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 7: Is so having that who will compete every Day Mantra

1024
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 7: shaty has you, know pretty much told us of course

1025
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 7: and told you guys and set the standard up since

1026
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 7: you first got. Here how much does that kind of

1027
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 7: JUST i, guess help you guys in terms of everything

1028
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 7: that y'all, do because it's pretty much like a team

1029
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 7: wide new culture they're trying to set.

1030
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: Here so how much do you feel like that helps?

1031
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 5: Y'all that helps us a. Lot it goes as deep

1032
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 5: as you know in the locker.

1033
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 6: Room i'm sure if if you've been in the locker,

1034
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 6: room you, know it's the ping pong table, there and

1035
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter what, time whenever time we have a,

1036
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 6: break there's always something going on at that ping pong.

1037
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: Table you.

1038
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 6: Know or you know we have like a like a

1039
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 6: basketball in the locker room as well that you, know

1040
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 6: it's that's something that we we harp on because that's

1041
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 6: how you win. Games you, know when you take everything

1042
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 6: as a competition and you want to, win there's a

1043
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 6: winner and there's a. Loser that's THAT i feel like

1044
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 6: that's important to the culture of her.

1045
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 4: Team have you won in ping?

1046
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: Pong? Yes? Yeah, no BECAUSE i, DEFINITELY i.

1047
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 6: Definitely but the thing, is we got a lot of

1048
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 6: really good ping pong players in that locker. Room SO

1049
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 6: i used to win early on when you, know guys

1050
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 6: were still kind of. Fresh but then you, know guys

1051
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 6: get more. PRACTICE i kind of stay to the side

1052
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 6: a little.

1053
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: Bit who thinks they're the best ping punk player right?

1054
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 5: NOW i, THINK i think? Does it's a. Couple it's a.

1055
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 6: Couple it's probably like y Yea Ernest brown shoot trays

1056
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 6: in there. Too he's always on the, table CDs on

1057
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 6: their dad will be like everybody's always on the, Table

1058
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 6: so it kind of everybody's gonna say that they're.

1059
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: The, Best and who really is the?

1060
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 5: BEST i don't.

1061
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 6: Know, shoot it might be like it might Be mayors.

1062
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 6: Somebody somebody might get mad at me if you know

1063
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 6: about saying.

1064
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 5: That but it might. Be it might BE i feel like.

1065
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: Every time we're in the locker, room he's always on the.

1066
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: Table we got about two minutes. Left what are you

1067
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: doing for relaxation and fun when you're not playing?

1068
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: Football?

1069
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 6: Shoot Typically i'm home playing my game best what your?

1070
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 6: GAME i play TWO, K nba TWO, k AND i

1071
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 6: Play call Of?

1072
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 5: Duty do you play?

1073
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: Those none of?

1074
00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: That.

1075
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 6: OKAY i like to spend time with my family and,

1076
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 6: friends SO i kind, of you, know, chill grab, food good.

1077
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 5: FOOD i like to eat. Good spot. HERE i definitely

1078
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 5: come here multiple.

1079
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 3: Times, Yeah nicole asked you a very important.

1080
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: Question, YES i don't. Know i'm kind of. Greedy come,

1081
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 5: on you gotta pick.

1082
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 6: ONE i would Say nigerian, food what, specifically, uh fool, food.

1083
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 5: Jelifrice i'm not, Greedy i'm not. Picky so do you

1084
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 5: eat it? Off do you cook? IT i don't. Know

1085
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: it's a little complex it's.

1086
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 3: Not mom cooks.

1087
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 5: It mom and dad dad.

1088
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 6: Too and Then i've got And i've got family members of,

1089
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 6: Course I'M i feel Like i'm the favorite nephew.

1090
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 3: Sony and so your brother is living with, you and

1091
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 3: is your dad just, visiting, right is? Visiting and show

1092
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: how many can your brother cook?

1093
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 6: It he can't, actually but he does. Cook so he

1094
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 6: cooks at, home. Honestly, yeah he's a really good. Cook

1095
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 6: he actually he owns a food truck out here that

1096
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 6: that'll be opening up In dallas.

1097
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: Soon hold, on we're kind of called Lose Philly.

1098
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 5: Flavors so he opened up In, Houston texas.

1099
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 6: Already but he does the Whole philly cheese steak because

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00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 6: he's he was, actually you, know born and raised In.

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00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 5: Philadelphia he's a little bit older THAN i.

1102
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 6: Am and he does the Old philly cheese, steaks chicken cheese,

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00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 6: steak salmon cheese.

1104
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 5: Steaks everything that's, his that's his. Thing and he could throw, down,

1105
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 5: boy he can salmoneak everything he can throw. Down so

1106
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 5: it'll be open enough.

1107
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: Soon when we have to try out the track.

1108
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: Soon i'm we're aiming for the end of this Month.

1109
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 5: October he's out.

1110
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: Here, now he's, here but it sounds like a great

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00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: thing For. October cools off a little bit. Exactly we

1112
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 3: gotta fill. Up, everybody say thank you To donovanza plays

1113
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: thank you for the. Time what a what an engaging young. Man.

1114
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: Uh the show will be right back, here same time

1115
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: next week after The cowboys beat The bears for another

1116
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: Victory monday on The cowboys.

1117
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 2: Houras cowboys Dot com and The Dallas cowboys put on.

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: Tros how have your travel?

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