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Speaker 1: but my mom's starting to ask questions and I'm terrified

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Speaker 1: gonna not getna cap on. Y'all. Raised in another person's

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Speaker 1: child thinking that it was gonna be yours would not

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Speaker 1: the six flags of parenting to raise a child who

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Speaker 1: But hey, maybe maybe there's some things I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's like, hey, I never know what to expect

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Speaker 1: because they're not they're not my genes, so it's always

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Speaker 1: Let's read the dang story. I thirty mail and I'm

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Speaker 1: in a relationship with my wife, twenty nine female, and

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Speaker 1: we've been together for eight years. But we grew up

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Speaker 1: long relationship. I also have two children, four female who

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Speaker 1: we can call Chloe fake name, and a baby boy

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Speaker 1: We had known him since we were nine, so this

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Speaker 1: hit us both hard. During this time, we argued a

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Speaker 1: lot and we spent time away from each other, but

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Speaker 1: eventually figured things out and realized we were better together.

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Speaker 1: Maybe two weeks after we got back together, she told

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Speaker 1: the sake of the story now. It was a bit

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Speaker 1: upsetting it first, but after some discussion we were able

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Speaker 1: so passed by, and we find out that she is pregnant. Ah. See,

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Speaker 1: tangled love, tangled chords. Guys, everything is tangled. We are

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Speaker 1: in an entangled situation again. Oh god, you know they say,

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Speaker 1: they say it only you only need one time, that's

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Speaker 1: what they say. And ladies and gentlemen, that's all you need. Oh. By,

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Speaker 1: I know, Ava isn't mine. I've known from the start

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Op. Shout out to Op man. You know,

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Speaker 1: at least, at least there was some upfront honesty here

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I I guess, Op's okay with

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Speaker 1: it and moves on. That's okay? Is that is? That?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? I don't know. Has anyone else been

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Speaker 1: in this situation? Have you fathered a parented a child

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Speaker 1: the comments below, but let's keep going. When I looked

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Speaker 1: knows about the cheating. She got pregnant and he basically

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Speaker 1: gotta love the issues. Ever since my son was born,

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Speaker 1: which is something very much that is okay to be

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Speaker 1: What I'm sniffing out. Well, my mom was committed to

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Speaker 1: While my other family besides my mom, don't care that

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Speaker 1: the a hole? Is this what the family is mad about?

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Speaker 1: It's just like, look, ultimately this business is between op,

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Speaker 1: involved in this situation, right. It's Opie's wife who did

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Speaker 1: I don't understand being mad that they they didn't tell you.

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Speaker 1: And it also really depends too on what your dynamic

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Speaker 1: like the mom, I don't know, the mom, just give

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Speaker 1: me bad vibes over here. I don't know, that's just me.

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Speaker 1: That might just be me. But let's keep going. Let's

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Speaker 1: keep going. Edit so I said Chloe at the top,

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Speaker 1: He did stuff which should have him away for life,

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Speaker 1: But I've loved her since day one and nothing will

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Speaker 1: This has been a crazy ride of paternity mystery extravaganzas.

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Speaker 1: But guys, I love you like Op. He loves his

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Speaker 2: Every single sexual partner she's had and I've never felt

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean Honestly, she should go to random House

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be steamy and off the press page turner.

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Speaker 2: A few days ago, I twenty eight mail got an

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Speaker 2: I did it thanks to you. The email had an attachment.

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Speaker 2: The attachment was a manuscript. The manuscript was an autobiography

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Speaker 2: The title of the autobiography instantly took me back to

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Speaker 2: It was ever a thing in our relationship, just casual conversation.

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Speaker 2: My ex girlfriend had more stories to tell, and all

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Speaker 2: of them were entertaining. I remember joking about how she

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Speaker 2: in the present. I finished reading the manuscript an hour ago.

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Speaker 2: There were seventy two chapters for each of her sexual partners.

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Speaker 2: Each chapter it was about an individual person my ex

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Speaker 2: My chapter nicknamed the Turtle. The turtle not the turtle.

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Speaker 2: like hard shell hard shell of a man. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: for sex. It didn't come across as if my ex

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Speaker 2: I think most people can understand what a sensitive topic

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Speaker 2: I still need to contact my ex girlfriend and provide

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Speaker 2: what I read. It's not every day someone writes a

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Speaker 2: book about your small deck. Welcome back, insecurities. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Wow. Also, when was that posted this week? Yeah? Okop community,

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Speaker 1: please keep scanning the Amazon stores and find that book.

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Speaker 1: I want to read this book now. Tag us as

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Speaker 1: soon as you find it. Great freakin' book.