WEBVTT - 6/10/26: Putin Assassination Attempt, Bernie Candidate Wins In CA, Cuba Preps For US War 

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of last year, Russian President Vladimir Putin

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<v Speaker 3>said that Ukraine had tried to assassinate him and his family.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump confirmed that he believed that this had happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Since then, we've heard almost nothing about it. We wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to walk through this wild story that has just completely

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<v Speaker 3>kind of evaporated from Western press attention. Matt Bivens his

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<v Speaker 3>in his sub stack The one hundred Days, wrote about it

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<v Speaker 3>recently and put this first element up on the screen.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a the whole the whole piece is worth reading,

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<v Speaker 4>but we'll.

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<v Speaker 5>Former editor of the Moscow Times, I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, Mett, very serious reporter, and stitch together

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<v Speaker 3>this timeline which is which is, which is quite wild.

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<v Speaker 3>It's December twenty eighth, and so a lot's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you're starting to have the protests in Iran. Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is meeting with Zelenski and also with net and Yahoo

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<v Speaker 3>and mar A Lago and also capturing Maduro like so

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<v Speaker 3>tons and plus it's the end of the year. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>paying attention, right, everybody's checked out. I was skiing, as

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of fact, literally literally checked out. I was

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<v Speaker 3>checking in, but checked out. So it's easy to miss

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<v Speaker 3>an attempted assassination of the head of it superpower or.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, especially major nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 5>The government is strained down play it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so what happened?

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<v Speaker 6>And so.

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<v Speaker 4>We put up D two here, which is relevant. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>come back to this.

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<v Speaker 3>So Putin has ordered CCD CCTV to be turned off

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<v Speaker 3>around him because the US and Israel or Israel appeared

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<v Speaker 3>to use this in their assassination of iotol Kamani and others.

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<v Speaker 3>So Putin, just because your paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>So on December twenty ninth, Trump was asked about a

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<v Speaker 3>claim but that Putin had just made that Ukrainian drones

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<v Speaker 3>had swarmed his family's compound and in an attempt to

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<v Speaker 3>assassinate him. And here's here's what Trump said on next

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<v Speaker 3>sitting next to standing next to that, on December twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 5>Straight straight on his sudden.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't I don't like it. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 8>I heard about this morning. You know, tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 7>President Putin told me about it early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 7>He said he was attacked. It's no good. It's no good.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't forget, you know, the tomahawks. I stopped the tomahawks.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't want that because we're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a delicate period of time. This is not the

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<v Speaker 7>right time. It's one thing to be offensive because they

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<v Speaker 7>were offensive. It's another thing to attack his house. It's

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<v Speaker 7>not the right time to do any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So then a couple of days later and put up

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<v Speaker 3>D four, wal Street Journal and others report that actually,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't do this, Ukraine didn't do this, didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So Trump was then asked about it again on Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force One.

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<v Speaker 8>You said that you were really very angry with the

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<v Speaker 8>Ukrainian president Silinski, if he was the one who conducted

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<v Speaker 8>that strike on Putin's residence.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't believe that strike happened, right, So Putin.

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<v Speaker 8>Had said in that phone call to you that that

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<v Speaker 8>strike happened. You came out and said that, and you

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<v Speaker 8>believed Putin. There was some criticism there is.

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<v Speaker 7>Something that happened fairly nearby but had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 7>with this one.

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<v Speaker 8>Why did you believe Putin in that moment and then

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<v Speaker 8>go say that about nobody.

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<v Speaker 7>Knew at that moment. I mean, that was the first

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<v Speaker 7>I heard about it. I said that his house was attacked.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't believe that happened. You know now that we

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<v Speaker 7>have been able to check, But that was the first

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<v Speaker 7>thing I ever heard about it. We just hoped that

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<v Speaker 7>Russia and Ukraine get it settled. Then you know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>costing us nothing. In fact, we make money.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you had a hard time hearing that as

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<v Speaker 3>Trump saying, we don't believe that happened anymore, and so

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<v Speaker 3>Putin says, okay, hold on a second, you think it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't happen, We've enroll D five here. He released a

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<v Speaker 3>video of what he says and what he says, are

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<v Speaker 3>Ukrainian drones that crashed in the forest. They released also

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a flight map that showed I think ninety

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<v Speaker 3>one drones that they counted that moved from Ukrainian positions

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<v Speaker 3>to this compound where the fam Putin's family was apparently staying.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's offered and they met with the American ambassador

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<v Speaker 3>and said, you want to, you want to, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to look at them, and go ahead, you can, you can,

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<v Speaker 3>you can study them yourselves, like we shut down a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of these.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of these crashed like here they are. We didn't

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<v Speaker 4>hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know any We don't know if the CIA ended up

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<v Speaker 3>obtaining some of these or not. Uh Zelenski at the

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<v Speaker 3>time called it a fabrication. He said this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Putin is trying to blow up the piece deal that

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<v Speaker 3>Zelenski and Trump were talking about in mar Lagouh. Putin said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>Zelenski is actually trying to blow this up. Zelensky has

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<v Speaker 3>now taken a different tune.

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<v Speaker 4>In June fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>On June fourth, he wrote a letter to Putin filled

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<v Speaker 3>with a bunch of you know what might as well

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<v Speaker 3>be expertives put up d D seven here, he wrote,

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<v Speaker 3>he writes this letter, Uh, this is Zelenski.

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<v Speaker 4>We often hear that you are comfortable with this war.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, not in those cases when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>the security of your residence in Valdy or your parade

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<v Speaker 3>in Moscow.

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<v Speaker 4>Your own life is valuable to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Valdi is where the compound was, where his family was staying,

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<v Speaker 3>and where Putin says.

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<v Speaker 4>That they tried to kill him. He was asked.

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<v Speaker 8>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Also recently, a drone which may have been Ukrainian, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>in Russia, We're not sure yet. I think it went

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<v Speaker 3>into Romania and it crashed into the top of an

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<v Speaker 3>apartment building and it injured I think a grandmother and

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<v Speaker 3>her grandson with some like burns on their arms are okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was scary, you know, hit a building. New

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<v Speaker 3>York Times wrote about this big giant Western coverage like this,

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<v Speaker 3>this errant drone that hit this NATO country.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to do war about this. And so.

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<v Speaker 3>Putin was asked about this drone and in this press

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<v Speaker 3>conference that will play this for a second. But what

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<v Speaker 3>he based says is okay, like let me see the drone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll study the drone and you can just look at

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<v Speaker 3>the drone and then you can figure out if it

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<v Speaker 3>was Ukrainian or Russian.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, either way, it was a mistake, said us.

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<v Speaker 5>People could look at them.

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<v Speaker 4>Just go and look at the drone.

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<v Speaker 3>And he says, just like we did with the drones

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<v Speaker 3>that tried to kill me, that we turned over the drones.

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<v Speaker 4>So World d eight.

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<v Speaker 9>Here, the same is happening. Here has happened here and

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<v Speaker 9>until we received some objective data, like the data that

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<v Speaker 9>we handed over to the representative of the American administration,

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<v Speaker 9>the data and the debris of the drone that hid

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<v Speaker 9>the residence of the Russian president. So we gave the findings.

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<v Speaker 9>If we receive these data from them, and then we

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<v Speaker 9>can share our estimates of what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So not to say that Putin doesn't lie. Putin obviously lies.

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<v Speaker 3>President's lies. Putin lies a lot, But in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>he's turning over the material itself for us to examine.

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<v Speaker 5>Assuming I mean, sure, I guess it could have been

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<v Speaker 5>tampered with. But yes, he's saying, then you could examine

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's been tampered with.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can just like look at the like here,

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<v Speaker 3>here's here's a drone. We say it's crashed in the forest, here,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, here's our chain of custody here, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you can always just disbelieve everything, but at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, like if you do launch ninety one drones,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's going to leave some evidence behind.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, we also have the pre existing evidence that the

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<v Speaker 5>president at first seems to believe Putin right, And just

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<v Speaker 5>one quick point on my end, Bivens points out. He

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<v Speaker 5>says in summary recent in recent days, both Zelenski and

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<v Speaker 5>Putin have again referenced an attack on Putin's home and

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<v Speaker 5>family carried out by US supported Ukrainian droones. This is

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<v Speaker 5>the same attack that Trump initially believed in but then

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<v Speaker 5>scoffed at after the CIA formally told him it never happened,

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<v Speaker 5>but it clearly did happen, which suggests the Vin says

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<v Speaker 5>that the CIA is giving false briefings to the president,

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<v Speaker 5>So that then becomes Germaine when you're thinking about Iran, Cuba,

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<v Speaker 5>Venezuela and all of these other places, China and Taiwan

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<v Speaker 5>around the world where we're in hot conflicts or potential

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<v Speaker 5>hot conflicts. About if John Ratcliffe and his CIA is

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<v Speaker 5>under Odie and I outgoing Odie and I and Tulsa

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<v Speaker 5>Gabbard where we know they are conflicts seemingly between Odie

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<v Speaker 5>and I and CIA. What information is getting to the

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<v Speaker 5>president that's extremely important and obviously right now we should

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<v Speaker 5>mention Ukraine is saying that missiles hit a military plant

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<v Speaker 5>really far inside of Russia, so all the way like

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<v Speaker 5>five hundred and sixty miles from the front line according

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<v Speaker 5>to BBC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess it's Telsa Gabbard ode and I maybe

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<v Speaker 3>she can come on the show now that she's retired,

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<v Speaker 3>she can talk about this assassination temp attempt. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if people have quite under stand the fire that

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<v Speaker 3>we're playing with here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm going to send a comment request actually on.

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<v Speaker 4>This right now because excellent. All right, give them the

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<v Speaker 4>report back. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Next up, Jane Kim.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the least discussed but perhaps most important races

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<v Speaker 3>in California that was decided recently may have been the

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<v Speaker 3>one for Insurance Commissioner. There will be two Democrats that

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<v Speaker 3>will move into the general election. One of them, Jane Kim,

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<v Speaker 3>had the endorsement of Bernie Sanders and was running on

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<v Speaker 3>a platform of insurance for all, which and we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about what exactly that means. But first to

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<v Speaker 3>start with a little bit of the message that she

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<v Speaker 3>ran on to finish first in this top two.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Jane Kim.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm running for Insurance Commissioner to fight for us, and

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not going to take a dime from the insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm running to make insurance available for everyone, to lower

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<v Speaker 10>costs right away by capping excess profits and CEO pay,

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<v Speaker 10>and to write a plant to guarantee healthcare for every

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<v Speaker 10>child in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us now is Jane and Kim the number one

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<v Speaker 3>of the top two finishers for Insurance Commissioner. Ben Allen,

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<v Speaker 3>State Senator, was the second. I believe he's welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>join as well. But Jane, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>being here.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>So we wanted to talk to you because insurance is

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<v Speaker 3>one of these and this is not health insurance for

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<v Speaker 3>correct me if I'm wrong, there's some relation.

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<v Speaker 8>So this office oversees the three point three trillion dollar

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<v Speaker 8>industry and it regulates all types of insurance, but managed

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<v Speaker 8>healthcare plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So we wanted to talk to you because insurance

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those things that is not.

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<v Speaker 4>Talked about very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Although it's everybody has to think about it whenever they're

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<v Speaker 3>making any serious decision. They think about it when they

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<v Speaker 3>get there, when they get their bill every month. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's right at the intersection of basically everything you know, climate, earthquakes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, natural disasters, and the ability fires, fires, and

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to kind of continue a functioning human civilization,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's that important.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet it's that under discussed.

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<v Speaker 3>California, as we think about it over here, is fairly

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<v Speaker 3>corporate dominated, and so I'm curious, you know how you

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<v Speaker 3>managed on a kind of anti corporate campaign, with an

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<v Speaker 3>anti corporate campaign, how you managed to kind of break through.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the message that you were bringing that was

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<v Speaker 3>able to kind of get beyond the clutter that's usually

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<v Speaker 3>thrown up by the insurance industry to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>they control this critical position.

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<v Speaker 8>So this office is created in nineteen eight by the

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<v Speaker 8>voters California to be the backstop between forty million Californians

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<v Speaker 8>and this trillion dollar industry. And this industry is an

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<v Speaker 8>industry that is doing quite well. In twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 8>property and casualty insurance netted one hundred and seventy billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 8>and so this narrative that they're going bankrupt is just

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<v Speaker 8>simply not true. Meanwhile, we are required to have insurance

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<v Speaker 8>to drive to work or to school, to on a home,

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<v Speaker 8>or to open a business or a nonprofit of any kind,

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<v Speaker 8>and the system is failing. Rates are going up, they're

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<v Speaker 8>canceling our coverage, and even if we have insurance, they

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<v Speaker 8>fight our claims every step of the way. And so

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<v Speaker 8>we ran on the message of a more affordable California

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<v Speaker 8>and that this office should be the champion of consumers

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<v Speaker 8>and not a lapdog for billionaire corporations. And this message

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<v Speaker 8>resonated across the state of California. We ran on a

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<v Speaker 8>platform talking about new ideas, at least to the US,

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<v Speaker 8>a single payer home disaster home program guaranteed for all

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<v Speaker 8>that is publicly run and nonprofit. We talked to expanding

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<v Speaker 8>our art existing low cost nonprofit auto insurance program and

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<v Speaker 8>Medicare for kids. And as you can see from our results,

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<v Speaker 8>we're plus eight in the top two. We didn't just

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<v Speaker 8>win in San Francisco, which is my backyard, which we're

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<v Speaker 8>plus eighteen. We also won in Los Angeles County, where

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<v Speaker 8>my main opponent resides, and we're in first place in

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<v Speaker 8>Republican and rural counties across the state of California, which

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<v Speaker 8>just showed that Californians are tired of the status quo

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<v Speaker 8>and they want to see someone who's going to champion

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<v Speaker 8>a more affordable California.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it made such an important point that you're

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<v Speaker 5>required to have insurance to operate into complete basic functions

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<v Speaker 5>in the state of California and of course in other states.

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<v Speaker 5>So he tell us a little bit more about what

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<v Speaker 5>you would be able to accomplish in this role, like

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<v Speaker 5>what's possible, what gives you hope that you could actually

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<v Speaker 5>do should you be elected.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So this is an executive office that regulates this industry.

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<v Speaker 8>And by the way, there's a zero federal oversight of insurance,

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<v Speaker 8>which is also really interesting. So it's regulated by the

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<v Speaker 8>fifty states, and it has this as I say, on

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<v Speaker 8>who gets to build wealth in this country? Right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>you can't drive to work without auto insurance, you can't

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<v Speaker 8>own a home or open a business. As I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 8>and as was mentioned earlier, it sits at this very

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<v Speaker 8>interesting intersection of this what everyone is feeling, the wealth, inequality,

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<v Speaker 8>climate disaster, and fairness, and ultimately what people want is

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<v Speaker 8>they want a fair and level playing ground. And this

0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.160
<v Speaker 8>is what this office can do. It regulates the industry,

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<v Speaker 8>sets the ground rules for how property and casualty industry

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<v Speaker 8>plays in the state of California, in the most populous

0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.000
<v Speaker 8>state in the country. And so there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 8>things that I have talked about. One one of the

0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.520
<v Speaker 8>biggest fights is around claims. And we're seeing this whether

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.080
<v Speaker 8>you live in the Palisades or in Paradise. And so one,

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<v Speaker 8>I want to freeze your rates when you file a claim.

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<v Speaker 8>You shouldn't be utilized for using the business that you've

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<v Speaker 8>been paying into, often for decades. Second, I want them

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<v Speaker 8>to pay you interest every day they deny, delay, or

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<v Speaker 8>underpay a valid claim. That is actually a big part

0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.120
<v Speaker 8>of their business strategy. Their main business is not really insurance,

0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.320
<v Speaker 8>it's their banks. They take our premiums and they invest

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<v Speaker 8>it in the bond markets. By the way, they're huge

0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.200
<v Speaker 8>institutional investors in fossil fuel, which is driving climate disaster,

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<v Speaker 8>and then they cancel coverage on the homes destroyed by it.

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<v Speaker 8>So they try to keep their money in their float

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<v Speaker 8>for as long as possible. So I also want to

0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.400
<v Speaker 8>create a financial disincentive from doing that by having them

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<v Speaker 8>pay you interests. The other is that we want to

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<v Speaker 8>really cap their profits, and that's something that the insurance

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<v Speaker 8>Commissioner can do. In the rate setting, you ACA mandates

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<v Speaker 8>that eighty five cents if every dollary paying premiums goes

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<v Speaker 8>back into paying claims. I think we should do the

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<v Speaker 8>same for home insurance, maybe at sixty five cents a dollar,

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<v Speaker 8>not even as high, or an auto insurance seventy five

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<v Speaker 8>cents a dollar and making sure that and by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>currently in California, it's roughly around forty nine cents of

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<v Speaker 8>our premium dollars go back into paying claims and make

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<v Speaker 8>sure that they're not spending it just on shareholders, CEOs

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<v Speaker 8>and Super Bowl ads.

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<v Speaker 4>So what that's wild?

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<v Speaker 3>So of the of every dollar that goes into the

0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.480
<v Speaker 3>insurance industry in California, forty nine cents comes back and claims,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the other fifty one.

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<v Speaker 4>CeNSE go to?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, presumably, if I'm going to like kind of steal man,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say the insurance industry argument, they'd say, well, for

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<v Speaker 3>for disaster insurance, they don't hit every year, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so we need to build up massive reserves so that

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<v Speaker 3>when they do hit that we can pay them off.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe you would need to stretch that out over

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<v Speaker 3>a longer time horizon than one year. But like, what,

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<v Speaker 3>so what are they where's that other fifty one cents going?

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<v Speaker 3>How much is going to that reserve and how much

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<v Speaker 3>is going to profits or to kind of the operations

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<v Speaker 3>required to keep their cash flow business going.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so let me start with their business model. So

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<v Speaker 8>part of their revenue is, of course are premiums. And

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<v Speaker 8>by the way, at least in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 8>our premiums have outpaced what they have paid in claims,

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<v Speaker 8>despite at least in California as some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 8>fire claims payout in history. Too. They take our premiums

0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 8>and they invest it in what they call their float,

0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.960
<v Speaker 8>so they invest it in the bond market or fossil fuels,

0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.080
<v Speaker 8>and so all of this is a part of their

0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.800
<v Speaker 8>revenue model, and they're doing exceedingly well. Every billionaire invests

0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 8>in insurance. It makes a ton of money. And so

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<v Speaker 8>when I say sixty five cents to a dollar, we're

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<v Speaker 8>just talking about the premium revenue. And so the remainder

0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.440
<v Speaker 8>goes to their shareholders. It goes to CEO pay. Of course,

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.199
<v Speaker 8>some of it goes to their reserves, it goes to

0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 8>their advertising. And what this office can do is that

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<v Speaker 8>it can shine a light in terms of mandating that

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<v Speaker 8>we understand where our dollars are going. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>this message resonated in Tuallomee County and Nevada and El Dorado,

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.880
<v Speaker 8>which are more rural areas of California, and it did

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<v Speaker 8>well in Republican counities like San Diego, Riverside and in

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.159
<v Speaker 8>cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco, paulse. You know,

0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.320
<v Speaker 8>insurance industries don't treat you differently because you're a Republican.

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 8>Everyone is feeling fleeced by the insurance industry and they

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<v Speaker 8>see their rates go up, they see their coverage get canceled,

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<v Speaker 8>and then they hear about how much money these industries

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<v Speaker 8>are making. And one example I'll just give is in April,

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<v Speaker 8>a Travelers, which is in the top ten of property

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.080
<v Speaker 8>casualty industry, announced that they did so well just in

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<v Speaker 8>the first quarter of twenty twenty six. They had two

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.119
<v Speaker 8>point two billion in excess capital. What did they do

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 8>with it? They didn't provide discounts or refunds to their policyholders.

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.920
<v Speaker 8>They didn't invest back in the communities that they have

0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.280
<v Speaker 8>profited from in the form of resilience, sand fireproofing, and floodproofing,

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.800
<v Speaker 8>which would collectively make us all safe. They gave it

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<v Speaker 8>all to their shareholders. And one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 8>I'm proposing a single payer, nonprofit, publicly run disaster insurance

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 8>program guarantee for every home run or in California is

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<v Speaker 8>that I want to claw back some of those premium

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.439
<v Speaker 8>dollars that we're already spending and have them stewarded by

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 8>the public. We would invest those premiums as well, and

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 8>when we have excess capital, like New Zealand, we would

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<v Speaker 8>invest it back into floodproofing and fireproofing and resiliency. And

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.360
<v Speaker 8>so there are two ways to lower your risk, right

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<v Speaker 8>because ultimately that is what is driving up the cost

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<v Speaker 8>of insurance. And if you want to make insurance affordable

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.200
<v Speaker 8>and available, you have to actually address risk. Private insurance

0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 8>market prices risk, and so we would take a portion

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 8>of that revenue and actually invest it in making us

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 8>collectively safer. While the private insurance market reduces their risk

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 8>by canceling covers are what they consider their sickest homes

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 8>or their homes with pre existing condition. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>this is not our idea. This is modeled after what

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<v Speaker 8>we see in New Zealand. Frans and span also a

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<v Speaker 8>form of a publicly run disaster in transfer all program.

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<v Speaker 8>Canada very interestingly has single pair auto insurance in some

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 8>of their provinces, and they also use access capital to

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<v Speaker 8>invest in roads and filling potholes because they know that

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<v Speaker 8>that also will reduce risks in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there seems to be some real parallels there between

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<v Speaker 3>the arguments for single payer healthcare as well, that the

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<v Speaker 3>government would then be incentivized to do preventive medicine and

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<v Speaker 3>to invest in clinics and and other you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>primary care to try to make it so that people

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<v Speaker 3>go to the er less and which is also then

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<v Speaker 3>better for society.

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<v Speaker 4>People don't want to get sick. People don't want their

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<v Speaker 4>houses to burn down.

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<v Speaker 3>I would imagine that one of the criticisms or the

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<v Speaker 3>questions that you get that this is the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>occurs to me is.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but what about that?

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<v Speaker 3>What about that house that's in the area that has

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<v Speaker 3>burned down, well, you know, six times in the last

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<v Speaker 3>ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>Or whatever, like that's.

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<v Speaker 5>A very real part.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just going to add like that's I randomly

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.640
<v Speaker 5>did a long investigation to the NFIP, the National Flood

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 5>Insurance Program a while back, and it's what Ryan is

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<v Speaker 5>saying is a real thing, at least with the NFIP,

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<v Speaker 5>is that you have a house that keeps getting rebuilt

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<v Speaker 5>like twenty times in some cases in a very dangerous

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 5>flood zone. Which it's not just a problem for the raids,

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:15.560
<v Speaker 5>it puts people's lives at risk.

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<v Speaker 4>So sorry Ryan to interrupt you, No, that I think

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<v Speaker 4>Emily and I have the same question.

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<v Speaker 3>What if you have a publicly run if you have

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<v Speaker 3>a public option or a single payer system, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you make sure that the public isn't helping somebody, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>build a house on stilts every year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So this is a big problem throughout the state of California.

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<v Speaker 8>Because of our train and the size of our state,

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:41.280
<v Speaker 8>our geography, we experience almost every type of disaster climate

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 8>disaster that you can imagine, much slides, floods, fires, and

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 8>one thing that we have been thinking a lot about

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<v Speaker 8>is that we would want to guarantee disaster insurance for

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 8>existing homeowners and keep in mind right. Many of these

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 8>homeowners moved into these parts of California long before they

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 8>became wildfire distress zones. In fact, what we call the WUUWI,

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 8>the Wildfire Urban Interface, has grown one hundred and eleven

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 8>percent since twenty eleven, so the wildfire regions moved into

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 8>neighborhoods and areas. In many ways, we don't want to

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 8>penalize these homeowners, many of whom are actually working class

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:27.400
<v Speaker 8>and middle class homeowners, not just wealthy vacation owners and

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 8>the Palisades and Tahoe. They have nowhere else to go.

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 8>California is such an expensive state. There are very few

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 8>places for them to relocate and move into, and so

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 8>we would want to make sure that we covered folks

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 8>and make sure that people aren't bankrupt or destitute. We

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<v Speaker 8>wouldn't want to cover new developments in the WOWIE because

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 8>we wouldn't want to give developers that type of incentive

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 8>that they would get covered in case a disaster hit,

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<v Speaker 8>knowing that they are building in a waldfire zone. But

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<v Speaker 8>we have a very big problem across the country because,

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<v Speaker 8>as I mentioned, the WEI has expanded one hundred and

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<v Speaker 8>eleven percent, So even if you live in a safe

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 8>zone today, you may not in five or ten years.

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<v Speaker 8>And so it's going to take way more than just

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 8>insurance as a tool for us to become more resilient

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 8>as country. We actually have to take on fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 8>So we keep talking about how homeowners and the public

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 8>is going to pay for these disasters, but we haven't

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 8>yet talked about how we're going to hold fossil fuels accountable.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 8>And also are dependent on fossil fuels, so all we

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<v Speaker 8>have to make polluters pay, and we need to. We

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<v Speaker 8>need to revamp our land use and our building code

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<v Speaker 8>as well to become more resilient. But the one other

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<v Speaker 8>idea that we are considering is allowing structural coverage to

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<v Speaker 8>be used for relocation and replacement. So if your home

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 8>does burn down, you can take the insurance that you

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 8>get and instead of rebuilding that you're allowed to actually

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 8>use it to move and buy another home.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because currently you have to end it right there.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, yes, so that's.

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<v Speaker 4>A great idea.

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<v Speaker 8>Exactly, if you have insurance and you're down, the only

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 8>thing you can do with that money is rebuilt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right now, it's a no brainer. Come on, come on, California,

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 3>This is, and everybody else should do this and.

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<v Speaker 8>Everybody else right, it's not just California, I mean Texas, Florida, Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually the biggest claims payout is wind and.

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<v Speaker 3>Hail, right, fascinating, fascinating. Oh, Jane Kim, one of the

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<v Speaker 3>two Democratic nominees for insurance Commissioner in California, Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you so much for having me and covering one

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 8>of the most important jobs you may have never heard of,

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 8>that really sits at this incredibly interesting fascination around economic fairness,

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 8>wealth inequality, and climate injustice. And really excited to be

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 8>in this race for this office. Thank you for having

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 8>me on.

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I look forward to having you back whenever you

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>come back on, assuming you do become the commissioner, it

0:25:55.600 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 3>will be in difficult situations, no doubt, but interesting ones

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 3>that we have to grapple with as a country and

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 3>a society.

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<v Speaker 4>So glad somebody's thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Were joined in studio this time by friend of the show.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.719
<v Speaker 5>Wanted to Vid Rojas. He's an independent journalist. You can

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 5>find his writing all the time over at Compact. He

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 5>had a big, big story about his work kind of

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 5>as a social worker with people who had come during

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 5>the Biden surge and we're making asylum claims, and some

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 5>big takeaways from the piece we want to talk about

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 5>Claudia Shinbaum, We want to talk about some different things

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 5>happening around Latin America. Pete Hegseeth is actually at Guantanamo

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Bay today, but let's start just with some of the

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 5>big picture takeaways that you had through your time spent

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 5>actually working in this capacity with people who are trying

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 5>to make asylum claims, who are trying to be here

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 5>in the United States as long as possible during the

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 5>Biden years. What'd you find out?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, so I worked as a social worker with what

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 11>are called you see and accompany children. Those are miners

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 11>under the age of eighteen who like come to the

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 11>border without like parents or legal guardians, and so they're

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 11>like held in a shelter and release of what are

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 11>called sponsors, typically family members, but not always sometimes sometimes

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 11>this and relatives and sometimes even people who they're not

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 11>related to.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 6>In the slightest we.

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 5>Should mention by the way, people may be familiar with

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 5>us from a huge New York Times story on Javier Bessera,

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 5>who is making the runoff in the Calivernia governor's race

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 5>is going to be against Steve Hilton. This is a

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.479
<v Speaker 5>huge piece of baggage that Javier Bsara now comes in

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 5>because while you were working in this capacity, New York

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 5>Times in a deep dive on how many U sees

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 5>ended up.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 11>Go on, Yeah, it became a political issue. So I

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 11>was a case manager and so basically, like my job is,

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 11>once like these kids were released to sponsors, you have

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 11>to check on them, make sure that they track their

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 11>immigration hearings, get like pro bonomo attorneys, you know, have

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 11>a roof over their head, stuff like that. And you know,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 11>this piece took me a really long time to write.

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 11>It was really hot to write. It's a very delicate

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 11>issue and I wanted, like people from both sides of

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 11>the aisle to take like the right.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 6>Things out of it.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 11>And that New York Times piece you mentioned, I can

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 11>thankfully say that during my time there was only one

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 11>case that I sid in the peace of a miner

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 11>who went like that you just ran away and couldn't

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 11>find them in anyway. Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, that's another thing.

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 11>I worked in South Florida, the Miami office of this agency.

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 11>So like Cubans, Venezuela, Yeah, yeah.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 6>South Americans, et cetera.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 11>And well, you know, the thing about one of the

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 11>main things for on Left of Center that I wanted

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 11>people to take out of the piece is that, you know,

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 11>there's this idea typically that it's.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 6>Like, oh, you know, if you come here.

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 11>To arrive at the border, like you know, you must

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 11>be really desperate, you're fleeing violent stuff like that.

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 6>That is the case.

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 11>But in my experience, and this is also reporting that

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 11>has been done, the vast majority of these asylum claims

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 11>are economic migrants, exactly, exactly.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, and I worked in twenty twenty two, twenty

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 11>twenty three, I've had a tricuratus professional career of journalism.

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Was kind of an accident.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 11>But but yeah, yeah, you know, in my experience, these

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 11>were all very hard working, loving families. But in my experience,

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 11>again it was a small minority of people. Yeah, you know,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 11>we're like fleeing persecution from the Ortega dictatorship, the Cuban regime,

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 11>of violence, from gangs. The rest wanted typically just to

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 11>work in the US and maney other families, and some

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 11>of them, to be fair, also wanted to go back

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 11>and that's another complicated aspect of this that because like

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 11>you know, you like come here either illegally or stillicit asylum,

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 11>then going back to your country sometimes becomes difficult. But

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 11>essentially for on the like the right side of the aisle,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 11>like I try to be very compassionate and talk about

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 11>like some of these stories even like people who like

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.959
<v Speaker 11>didn't have in my opinion, legitimate claims of asylum. These

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 11>are good people, They're not all criminals. On the other hand,

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 11>the issue I saw under Biden was there was just

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 11>no enforcement once people were inside of the country. And

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 11>you look at the data deportations inside of the country,

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 11>Interior enforcement under in Obama's first term was like two

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 11>hundred thousand a year, then in by Trump's first term,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 11>I was like one hundred thousand, and then by Biden's

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 11>term it was fifty thousand. Basically, once you get into

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 11>the country, you don't get deported, so you know, and

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 11>there's like debates about this that oh a lot of

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 11>people were deported at the border. Inside of the country,

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 11>not so much. And the problem with that is you

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 11>get this insane backlog of asylum claimants, and that hurts

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 11>actual assylees because you have so many economic migrants crowding

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 11>out people with legitimate claims, and so my perspective is

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 11>there needs to be limits. I consider myself a social democrat,

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 11>an old school social democrat, and in the olden days,

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 11>social democrats were more restrictive on immigration. Yeah, not because

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 11>like immigrants are bad or anything like that. It's just

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 11>there needs to be limits to these things. Like you

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 11>want to have controls on capital, there needs to be

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 11>limits on immigration thoughtfully. And it's same thing with like deportation.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 11>A critique I would have what I've seen now under

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 11>Trump is like you just have these deliberate this deliberate

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 11>abuse what I find to be gratuitously sadistic policies. People

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 11>are detained for like a year on end. I have

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 11>a line on the piece that's like deportation should be

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 11>neither pleasant nor like deliberately performative. And like Chris Kobak,

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 11>former Attorney General of a Kansas Republican, he stressed that

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 11>the best way to do this is to have a

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 11>national regime of eve verify on employers, meaning you punish

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 11>employers for contracting a legal labor and that would be

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 11>a lot more efficient than having an eighty billion dollar ice.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 5>Yes, well, and the economic conditions of these countries, whether

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 5>it's Cuba or Venezuela, is extremely relevant to our incursions

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 5>into those countries continuing under the Trump Absolutely.

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, Indeed, when you know, when we destroyed Mexico's

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of agricultural economy, we've sent a massive win nineties

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 3>because they have of Mexican migrants northward. Mexico now doing

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 3>much better. There's a lot we want to get get

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>through with you. So to move to Mexico real quickly,

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 3>we could put up f one here.

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Walk us through what.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Is the cloudy cloudy Scheinbaum was celebrating the launch of

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 3>this like five thousand dollars you know, electric vehicle, this van.

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 3>If you're not watching it kind of as Mac described,

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 3>it kind of looks like a little airport shuttle. I

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 3>would love to have one of these guys a tool

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 3>around the neighborhood. Five thousand bucks. Yeah, like the smart cars,

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>right yeah, yeah yeah.

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of social democrats.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>So what's so, what's going on with Mexico's kind of

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 3>ev industry? Is this are are we headed to a

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>place where the US is going to just be making

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty to sixty thousand dollars, you know, gas guzzlers,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 3>while the rest of the country, while the rest of

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 3>the world is just driving these five to ten thousand

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 3>dollars EV's like, how long is that gonna last?

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 4>What is what is going on here?

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 5>And she's doing this on the eve of the World

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Cup Bush Mexican as well Mexican Games games in Mexico

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 5>on Thursday. Lots of anxiety about potential violence. You ow

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 5>and Girl had a good piece on that and those

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 5>kind of tensions.

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 4>So there's politics in there too.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 6>Totally, totally yeah that I believe.

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 11>It's called the Oina and it's not very fast. I

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 11>think it's top speed, doesn't look for miles an hour,

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 11>and so like some of the opposition have said that,

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 11>oh it's basically just a glorified scooter, but I mean, yeah,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 11>that could reasonably get you around and like some big cities,

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 11>like that's a flagship that the Mexican government had they

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 11>wanted to have their own Mexican manufacture. Is there a

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 11>Chinese partnership, Like what's the I don't think so. I

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 11>think it was pretty Mexican made. Now there's a ton

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 11>of Mexican evs in China and a lot of anxiety

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 11>of that if they'll ever be let into the US,

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 11>and you mean Chinese Chinese vs. In Mexico that will

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 11>be let in and I actually you guys bring that

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 11>up with an after that's a good point. Like Mexican immigration,

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 11>for instance, has gone down, all immigration to the US

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 11>has gone down a lot, actually commers at this point,

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 11>I think, so, yeah, there's even a lot of people

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 11>that are going back and a.

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 6>Have to destroy way more going to Mexican that too, expats. Yeah,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 6>something like two million.

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 3>What do we call that Mexic paths is not migrants? Well,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 3>probably not migrants. That's a that's another story. But we

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 3>try to use language here like equally. So, yeah, American

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 3>US migrants.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 6>US migrants.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 5>Well Pete Hegseth.

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>In making Mexican jobs laptop jobs that Mexicans won't.

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 5>Do in Gwandan Mobay today becoming another US official to

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 5>visit the to visit the island of Cuba in recent weeks,

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 5>raising all kinds of anxieties of course among the skeptics

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 5>of a potential US intervention.

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Now you follow this.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Very closely at one so with Hext now making the

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 5>trip Radcliffe has made the trip. You're reading the tea leaves.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 5>What's your expectation about what could come in the days

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 5>and weeks ahead.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I think we'll probably see the strikes of something,

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 11>some sort of Maduro operation. Who knows, maybe they'll even

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 11>go for a full invasion. I mean right now, there's

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 11>like they basically have all the same assets they had

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 11>for the Maduro operation, around ten thousand troops. The thing

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 11>is Cuba is a lot smaller, has more favorable geography,

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 11>and you know, there's a history there.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 6>And the lobby. I could see them pushing for this.

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 11>On the other hand, you know, with Iran that's complicated

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 11>and actually trying this to our initial conversation. You know,

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 11>like under Biden, it was something like three million Cubans

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 11>left the island, half of which came here and especially

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 11>to South Florida, a lot of people that I worked with.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 11>Now under Trump, if you didn't have such like restrictive

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.439
<v Speaker 11>policies at the border, you'd have millions of Cubans still

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 11>coming in. And actually this is something that went under

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<v Speaker 11>noticed the Nicaraguan government. Yeah, in twenty twenty two, they

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<v Speaker 11>remove visas on Cubans and that allowed Cubans to just

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<v Speaker 11>go to Nicaragua and then straight to the US. They

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<v Speaker 11>put visas back on apparently as a gesture to the

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<v Speaker 11>Trump ad minister. Should guess it didn't work because they

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<v Speaker 11>just got sanctioned a bunch a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably talked to people who'd done that. I talked too, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>who had done that too in Mexico. I went through

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<v Speaker 5>Nicaragua and then right up to the US.

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<v Speaker 11>So and yeah, and so this is just to me

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<v Speaker 11>logical that, hey, if you don't want to have millions

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<v Speaker 11>of people coming here yet. On the one side, yet

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<v Speaker 11>I disagree that, you know, the immigration policy should be

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<v Speaker 11>so relaxed, especially with asylum.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there should be a lot of reform.

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<v Speaker 11>On the other hand, we shouldn't go about wanton intervening

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<v Speaker 11>in all of these countries.

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<v Speaker 6>It's completely counterproductive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, give us a quick update while we have you

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<v Speaker 3>on the elections. Elections in Colombia, elections, brew As is

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<v Speaker 3>the believing government can fall brazilkly.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot. Bolivia. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think the government is going to finish its term.

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<v Speaker 11>But yeah, maybe support from the US will help there's

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<v Speaker 11>elections right now in Peru and in Colombia. They're still

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<v Speaker 11>counting votes in Peru. It's like the closest in La Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>You know a lot of people pointed that out that

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<v Speaker 11>Peru counted however many votes, but yeah, there's like ninety

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<v Speaker 11>seven ninety seven percent of the vote counted and it's

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<v Speaker 11>like fifty point zero something to forty nine point nine

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<v Speaker 11>to nine something.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, these elections, left is up by a little bit,

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<v Speaker 6>slightly slightly.

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<v Speaker 11>The problem is the votes coming in now are mainly

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<v Speaker 11>like super rural, which are in favor of the left,

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<v Speaker 11>and and abroad that are super in favor of Fuhimori.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I always find it interesting that in South America

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<v Speaker 3>the rural votes are more left wing.

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<v Speaker 11>Sometimes it depends. In Peru's interesting because a lot of

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<v Speaker 11>these leftists, I call them base leftists. They're like socially

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<v Speaker 11>conservative right, but you know, economically left wing and uh.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know this makes sense because they're based is

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<v Speaker 11>rural and so in like the highlands in Peru.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 11>This guy, the current candidate, his big promise was to

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<v Speaker 11>pardon former president be Castidio, the guy with the hat,

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<v Speaker 11>and this guy like he was like an evangelical, like

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<v Speaker 11>pro life, like anti LGBT, super right way social issues

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<v Speaker 11>and so this this guy Sanchez, is that he's not

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<v Speaker 11>as like he he's a background as a psychologist, and

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<v Speaker 11>so his track record in Congress was he said he's

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<v Speaker 11>in favor of like civil unions stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 11>he still like builds himself as like pro life and

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<v Speaker 11>a man of faith and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's still left wing.

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<v Speaker 11>And so you know, the narrative you usually here is

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<v Speaker 11>just that it's communism versus capitalism.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like they're doing well in Columbia.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks like there's this crazy mob lawyer.

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<v Speaker 11>He was a lawyer for like drug trafficking paramilitaries and

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<v Speaker 11>former president Udie who's currently under trial and so.

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<v Speaker 5>Pardon him you never know, yeah traffick. Yes, well one

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<v Speaker 5>front of the show. Go check him out on social media.

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<v Speaker 5>Has a sub stack as well. I know you're taking

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<v Speaker 5>some reporting trips to South America and all over Latin

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<v Speaker 5>America in the days and weeks ahead. So thank you

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<v Speaker 5>for joining us in the studio. It was a pleasure

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<v Speaker 5>to have you here for the first time. You saw

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<v Speaker 5>in the studio.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for having me you guys, of course, Well that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to do it for us on today's edition of

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<v Speaker 5>Breaking Points. We so appreciate you taking the time to

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<v Speaker 5>be with us on this Wednesday, Ryan.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything else, that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan has declared it is over all right. Well, Ryan

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<v Speaker 5>and I will see you on Friday, crystalin soccer. We'll

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<v Speaker 5>see you back here tomorrow. Have a great one, everyone,