Speaker 1: School of Humans.
Speaker 2: On June twenty fifth, twenty twenty, fifty six year old
Speaker 2: James Escalante, who also went by Blackhawk, left home on
Speaker 2: a red Mountain bike. He was headed out to help
Speaker 2: a woman named Dee, a friend of his, and his girlfriend, Sherry's.
Speaker 2: Dee's truck had gotten stuck out in the desert near
Speaker 2: Wonder Valley, but he never made it back home, and
Speaker 2: no one reported him missing until September seventh. Heather Escalante
Speaker 2: and her husband, John, James's son, started their own search.
Speaker 3: After Heather started.
Speaker 2: Posting on social media and looking for information, she heard
Speaker 2: that remains were found in the desert on August eighth
Speaker 2: by a hunter. The body was a John Doe. Half
Speaker 2: his face was missing, he had long black hair, and
Speaker 2: there was no id found. Heather contacted the detective working
Speaker 2: on the case in September to say she believed that
Speaker 2: that body could be James. On on December fifteenth, the family's
Speaker 2: worst fears were confirmed. They got a call from the
Speaker 2: coroner James as Galante was dead. The cause and manner
Speaker 2: of his death were undetermined. What happened out there in
Speaker 2: the desert? I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past five years
Speaker 2: of making my true crime podcast, Helen Gone, I've learned
Speaker 2: that there is no such thing as a small town
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Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. We got access to
Speaker 2: the coroner's report, which had some more details of what
Speaker 2: went down on the day that James's body was found
Speaker 2: and some details about.
Speaker 3: The exact condition of the body.
Speaker 2: According to the coroner's report, the hunter Kyle Gibson, was
Speaker 2: out in the desert off Highway sixty two when he
Speaker 2: saw a skeleton. He called the police, and Jason Board,
Speaker 2: a deputy from the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, responded
Speaker 2: to the scene. The deputy found a skull with skin
Speaker 2: on the left side of the face and top of
Speaker 2: the head. Part of James's body was lying down with
Speaker 2: the legs spread wide apart. His head was pointed forty
Speaker 2: degrees northeast. He was wearing a pair of plaid shorts,
Speaker 2: a black sock, and a red and black Nike high
Speaker 2: top on his left foot, but James's right foot, his arms,
Speaker 2: and other body parts, including all of the organs in
Speaker 2: his torso, were missing. Detectives found signs of animal activity
Speaker 2: on the body, shoe marks and the hips, rib cage,
Speaker 2: and legbones. One of the deputies who arrived on the
Speaker 2: scene was Elizabeth Gonzalez. She noted in her report that
Speaker 2: she saw a stain in the dirt about forty feet
Speaker 2: south of the body, and three feet away she found
Speaker 2: another more faint stain. She also found a pocket knife
Speaker 2: and a lighter near James's body.
Speaker 3: According to the coroner's report.
Speaker 2: He indicated that he was going to get it tested
Speaker 2: for fingerprints, but Heather said that this never happened. According
Speaker 2: to the autopsy report, a lot of tests could not
Speaker 2: be performed due to the condition of the body and
Speaker 2: the fact that James had been out in the elements
Speaker 2: for so long, but a drug panel showed he did
Speaker 2: test positive for amphetamine and methamphetamine at very high levels,
Speaker 2: which Heather said was not a surprise. She said that
Speaker 2: though police did do an investigation, she sometimes felt that
Speaker 2: due to James's drug use, that he was written off
Speaker 2: by law enforcement. His cause and manner of death were undetermined.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't neither one having to do this. No, I
Speaker 1: hear two one day at least done their due diligence,
Speaker 1: and I felt like they had at least done that
Speaker 1: much and just couldn't get anything. But like they've never
Speaker 1: looked at James, They've never looked at it, they've never
Speaker 1: been in it. When never going out there, how do
Speaker 1: you know that wasn't a crime thing you didn't want?
Speaker 1: Miyama don't know that he wasn't killed in there and
Speaker 1: dumped out in the desert. Like we have no idea
Speaker 1: because damn it looked.
Speaker 2: People do disappear out there in the desert, even people
Speaker 2: who know the area well. Like we said last week,
Speaker 2: this is a part of the country where a lot
Speaker 2: of people go missing for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 2: Around nine days before James went missing, thirty seven year
Speaker 2: old Erica Lloyd also disappeared and Even though there's no
Speaker 2: official indication that Erica and James's deaths were connected, we
Speaker 2: wanted to see if anything about Erica's disappearance could help
Speaker 2: provide a clue about what happened to James. Family and
Speaker 2: friends say Erica had been going through a tough time.
Speaker 2: She was a single mother with a twelve year old son,
Speaker 2: and she had been battling depression. COVID had hit her
Speaker 2: hair dressing business hard. She was worried about money, though
Speaker 2: her mother, Ruth Lloyd, said that the family did not
Speaker 2: know the extent of Erica's mental health struggles until much later.
Speaker 2: Erica dropped her son off to stay in Walnut Creek,
Speaker 2: where they lived. I've seen some media reports that say
Speaker 2: she dropped her son off with a friend. Others say
Speaker 2: that her son was dropped with his father. Either way,
Speaker 2: he was staying there with someone. Walnut Creek is in
Speaker 2: northern California, between Sacramento and San Jose. She told people
Speaker 2: she was going on a pandemic road trip. Erica didn't
Speaker 2: seem to have an exact itinerary. The San Bernardino Sentinel
Speaker 2: newspaper reported that Erica may have been planning to see
Speaker 2: a friend someone who had reportedly moved to twenty nine
Speaker 2: Palms in April of twenty twenty, but so far that's unconfirmed.
Speaker 2: According to The Sentinel, Erica originally left on June eleventh.
Speaker 2: She drove straight over five hundred miles down the I
Speaker 2: five and her two thousand and six black Honda accord.
Speaker 2: Her destination was Joshua Tree National Park. She parked at
Speaker 2: the Jumbo Rocks campground and stayed there for two nights.
Speaker 2: While she was there, she wrote in her journal that
Speaker 2: she met two people named Christian and James. On Saturday,
Speaker 2: June thirteenth, she drove back home to Walnut Creek again
Speaker 2: in one single drive. She spent some time there with
Speaker 2: her son and her roommate. On June fourteenth, she left
Speaker 2: Walnut Creek to go back to that same campground. She
Speaker 2: did not appear to be in distress, though before she
Speaker 2: left she did delete her Facebook page. She was active
Speaker 2: on Instagram until the next day, June fifteenth. She told
Speaker 2: people while she was home that these people she met,
Speaker 2: James and Christian, were watching her stuff. On June fourteenth,
Speaker 2: when she got back to the Jumbo Rocks campground, apparently,
Speaker 2: James and Christian were no longer. There, she called her mother, Ruth,
Speaker 2: and according to the Sentinel, her mom said that Erica
Speaker 2: was talking really fast. She said she could tell by
Speaker 2: the background noises that Erica was driving her car. After that,
Speaker 2: Erica's family never heard from her again. Park rangers found
Speaker 2: the car and saw that there was damage to the
Speaker 2: rear window, windshield, and dashboard. Then, on Tuesday, June sixteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, surveillance video showed Erica's car leaving the north
Speaker 2: entrance to Joshua Tree National Park. Then later the car
Speaker 2: was seen on surveillance video at two fifty pm in
Speaker 2: the town of twenty nine Palms.
Speaker 3: At four pm, a.
Speaker 2: California Highway patrolman spotted a car parked on Shelton Road,
Speaker 2: just north of the intersection with Highway sixty two near
Speaker 2: twenty nine Palms.
Speaker 3: The car was blocking.
Speaker 2: The roadway, so the Highway patrol called in nearby auto
Speaker 2: repair company to come and tow the car. News Channel
Speaker 2: three talked to the owner of that towing company. They
Speaker 2: said the windows of the car were busted out, the
Speaker 2: radio was shattered, and the air bag had deployed. And
Speaker 2: this is where the story takes a really tragic turn
Speaker 2: because This turned out to be Erica's two thousand and
Speaker 2: six black Hondo cord Ell. Lloyd's family reported her missing
Speaker 2: on June seventeenth. This was the day after a car
Speaker 2: had been towed off Shelton Road, the car that turned
Speaker 2: out to be Erica's, and even after she was reported missing,
Speaker 2: at first, no one connected the abandoned car with her.
Speaker 2: Since the California Highway Patrol didn't know that there was
Speaker 2: someone who had been.
Speaker 3: In the car, they just towed the vehicle.
Speaker 2: They mailed the toe slip to Erica's apartment, which obviously
Speaker 2: she never received. Eventually, the Walnut Creek Police Department notified
Speaker 2: the Highway Patrol that Erica was missing, and they started
Speaker 2: to look for her. Erica's family flew out on the nineteenth.
Speaker 2: They started putting up flyers. They kept trying to call
Speaker 2: her cell phone. On June twentieth, finally someone answered, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't Erica.
Speaker 3: It was a man.
Speaker 2: Erica Lloyd's family was calling her cell phone in a
Speaker 2: desperate attempt to find her, and on June twentieth, someone
Speaker 2: picked up the phone, but it wasn't Erica.
Speaker 3: It was a strange man.
Speaker 2: He told Erica's family that he had found her cell
Speaker 2: phone on June eighteenth on Cottonwood Drive in twenty nine Palms,
Speaker 2: so they were wondering how did she get separated from
Speaker 2: her car and her phone. Some people suggested that Eric
Speaker 2: had been kidnapped or killed by a serial killer, but
Speaker 2: the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said no foul play
Speaker 2: was involved. Investigators pieced together a theory that Erica had
Speaker 2: crashed her car and left her vehicle, then she became
Speaker 2: disoriented in the desert heat. They believed this because there
Speaker 2: was also significant damage to the bottom.
Speaker 3: Of her car. Underneath it, it looked like she had.
Speaker 2: Crashed into one of those berms out on the side
Speaker 2: of the road, the areas that kind of slope up
Speaker 2: on the side of the highway one of the natural barriers.
Speaker 2: Investigators thought that after she crashed, Erica might have seen
Speaker 2: the Marine Corps base in the distance and mistook it
Speaker 2: for the town of twenty nine Palms. This may have
Speaker 2: caused her to walk off of Highway sixty two to
Speaker 2: try and cut through there. This could have been a
Speaker 2: fatal mistake because that would have led her through miles
Speaker 2: of desert in sweltering heat and what no one knew
Speaker 2: at the time was that the spot where police found
Speaker 2: her car on Highway sixty two and Shelton was not
Speaker 2: the original crash site. Because shortly after Erica abandoned her car,
Speaker 2: two people, David Krow and Tila Campbell, saw it on
Speaker 2: the side of the road. They hooked it up to
Speaker 2: a big truck they had, and they started towing the
Speaker 2: car and driving south, But they only made it about
Speaker 2: two miles from where it crashed before the car overheated,
Speaker 2: so they detached Erica's vehicle and bailed. This means that
Speaker 2: when the search effort began for Erica, it started at
Speaker 2: the wrong spot. The police focused on the area around
Speaker 2: where the car had been dropped off by David and Tila,
Speaker 2: not the spot where Erica had actually crashed her car
Speaker 2: and started wandering around in a daze. There is no
Speaker 2: indication that David and Tela knew the car had been
Speaker 2: abandoned by someone who was in trouble, but they didn't
Speaker 2: call the authorities.
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 2: If they saw the reports of Erica missing on the news,
Speaker 2: but if they had called, there's a possibility they could
Speaker 2: have saved her life.
Speaker 3: Tragically.
Speaker 2: Searchers might have been able to find Erica if they
Speaker 2: had just searched closer to where she actually left the car,
Speaker 2: but we will never know that for sure. We reached
Speaker 2: out to Erica's mother, Ruth Lloyd. She responded in an email.
Speaker 2: She said that she had been wary of some podcasts
Speaker 2: in the past that were, in her opinion, erroneously trying
Speaker 2: to make connections between Erica's case and a serial killer,
Speaker 2: or implying Erica and James Escalante's cases were connected.
Speaker 3: Ruth wants to make it clear.
Speaker 2: She believes Erica crashed her car and succumbed to the elements,
Speaker 2: and that law enforcement did a good job. Her email
Speaker 2: reads quote, because especially in the first several years, we
Speaker 2: found that there were some crime podcasters and sluice that
Speaker 2: were looking to find entertainment and exploiting the tragedies of
Speaker 2: the victims and or their families. So we felt that
Speaker 2: you had better understand Erica's sudden mental health break. And
Speaker 2: it is sadly what caused Erica to be where she
Speaker 2: ended up in the desert that day, where her car
Speaker 2: crashed and got stuck on a sandburm in Wonder Valley,
Speaker 2: which getting stuck is not uncommon in the desert end quote.
Speaker 2: Ruth talked about going out to Wonder Valley and discovering
Speaker 2: the challenges of being in that part of the desert,
Speaker 2: which she described as a mix of homestead junkyards with
Speaker 2: the occasional Airbnb renovated with the hot tub. She wrote, quote,
Speaker 2: from everything we know, we don't believe Erica had any
Speaker 2: intention of being out where she was, and this was
Speaker 2: definitely an area she was not familiar with. Even for
Speaker 2: us being from Maryland, going out in the desert at
Speaker 2: that time of the year was like going to Mars
Speaker 2: end quote. Ruth talked about how going to the area
Speaker 2: in the intense heat, with the smoke and the ash
Speaker 2: from the California wildfires, how beautiful it was, but how
Speaker 2: it was ninety eight degrees even at night, it can
Speaker 2: be an unforgiving place. She said that the family got
Speaker 2: a lot of calls and texts from people who thought
Speaker 2: they saw Erica.
Speaker 3: She talked about how.
Speaker 2: They found five homeless women, all of whom looked a
Speaker 2: lot like Erica, and how many people are wandering lost
Speaker 2: in one way or another out there.
Speaker 3: She wrote, quote, we.
Speaker 2: Found many of these women and men live wherever they
Speaker 2: can find a place to stay, crawl into, or get under.
Speaker 2: So it makes you wonder when they are alone and
Speaker 2: die in the desert, who's looking for them? End quote.
Speaker 2: Ruth said that their family had a search team out
Speaker 2: on June twenty fifth. This was the day that James
Speaker 2: Escalante headed out to the desert to help de get
Speaker 2: her truck unstuck. The team stopped at noon that day
Speaker 2: when it got too hot. James was at the corner
Speaker 2: of Shelton in Highway sixty two when he made the
Speaker 2: call and then headed up Shelton Road. He would have
Speaker 2: had to carry his bike because of the loose sand.
Speaker 2: The bike was later found with some drug paraphernalia on
Speaker 2: the side of the road. It was found by the
Speaker 2: caving and mining expert who worked with Erica's family. But
Speaker 2: what happened to James after that? Did he stash the
Speaker 2: bike there or did someone else dump it out there.
Speaker 2: Erica's body was discovered by hikers near Danby Road and
Speaker 2: Amboy Road in Wonder Valley on January thirty first, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one. In June of twenty twenty one, Tila Campbell
Speaker 2: and David Crowe were arrested. They were charged with stealing
Speaker 2: Erica's car. They admitted that they had seen the car
Speaker 2: out there in the sandburn got it off there, hauled
Speaker 2: it off and drove it until it overheated, then abandoned
Speaker 2: the vehicle. David Crowe was sentenced after a plea deal,
Speaker 2: but Tila Campbell's case is still going through the courts.
Speaker 2: According to Erica's mom, Tila's next hearing date is set
Speaker 2: for January twenty twenty five. Erica's family did travel to
Speaker 2: Joshua Tree to give a family impact statement in front
Speaker 2: of Tila and David.
Speaker 3: Wrote quote.
Speaker 2: At the hearing, they both appeared to understand the consequence
Speaker 2: of what their actions caused Erica that day end quote.
Speaker 2: Ruth said that the defendants appeared to be sorry and
Speaker 2: remorseful in court, and that the family felt a certain
Speaker 2: amount of peace and closure in being able to address
Speaker 2: both of them and let them know how they had
Speaker 2: devastated their family. Ruth said that they met the homicide
Speaker 2: detectives that handled Erica's case and James's case. She said
Speaker 2: detectives said they found no indication that the cases were connected.
Speaker 2: Erica's cause and manner of death has never been revealed,
Speaker 2: but Heather Escalante said she wonders about that and if
Speaker 2: it's possible that the James in the desert that Erica
Speaker 2: wrote about in a journal could be her father in law,
Speaker 2: James Escalante.
Speaker 1: I still think Eric Alloyd's what the narrative that has
Speaker 1: been put out. I'm gonna be honest with you. Please
Speaker 1: excuse my langage, but I think it's bullshit. Honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still think their cases are connected. There was a
Speaker 1: James and Christian holding her can fight for her. I
Speaker 1: get James as a common name, but that's a little wild.
Speaker 1: I also think I know who Christian is.
Speaker 2: And then Heather found even more inconsistencies in Sherry's story,
Speaker 2: inconsistencies that might connect him with eric A.
Speaker 3: Lloyd.
Speaker 2: Heather eventually got access to James's call logs from his
Speaker 2: cell phone. When she went through them, she found that
Speaker 2: Sherry's timeline of James's location in the past month did
Speaker 2: not align with what she found in their text messages.
Speaker 1: One of the things I found interesting was that Sherry
Speaker 1: had claimed that my James couldn't be the James that
Speaker 1: was with eric A. Lloyd that month because she was
Speaker 1: with him the whole month, or he was with her
Speaker 1: the whole month, but if you read through their text
Speaker 1: messaging lags, there's nothing like almost all their text messaging
Speaker 1: back and forth that month was like her saying are
Speaker 1: you ever coming home?
Speaker 3: So he wasn't with her.
Speaker 2: Heather said that Cherry actually mentioned eric A Lloyd in
Speaker 2: kind of a cryptic way, and Heather revealed something else.
Speaker 2: She said that Sherry is actually friends with the two
Speaker 2: people Tela and David, who had been charged with stealing
Speaker 2: Erica's car. The place where they dumped the car was
Speaker 2: also the exact same intersection where apparently they were hanging
Speaker 2: out and where James went missing days later. There are
Speaker 2: other unanswered questions from Erica's case, like who are Christian
Speaker 2: and James? Are those their real names? Then there's Erica's campsite.
Speaker 2: When the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department searched the Jumbo
Speaker 2: Rocks campground where Erica was that day, they did find
Speaker 2: her gear, but they found something else, an expensive, yeti
Speaker 2: cooler that Erica's family said they didn't recognize. Could someone
Speaker 2: else have been out there with her? Could it have
Speaker 2: been James Escalante? It may seem far fetched, but no
Speaker 2: one has ever found Christian or James. Signs may point
Speaker 2: to her car crash being an accident, but I wonder
Speaker 2: how do we know for sure that she was alone
Speaker 2: in that car or what caused her to crash. Erica's
Speaker 2: car ended up getting abandoned at Highway sixty two and
Speaker 2: Shelton Road. As we know, this is exactly the same
Speaker 2: area where James Escalante was headed nine days later on
Speaker 2: June twenty fifth, twenty twenty. It's where he stopped at
Speaker 2: that intersection and used his cell phone to call Sherry,
Speaker 2: telling her that he couldn't find d or her car. Now,
Speaker 2: the story that Heather and detectives were told was that
Speaker 2: Sherry made a three way call with James and D
Speaker 2: that D told him to honk his horn. He seemed
Speaker 2: to hear the horn and said I got it and
Speaker 2: hung up, but he never got to D. Eventually, she
Speaker 2: was rescued by two other friends. No one ever heard
Speaker 2: from James again. After James was found, searchers went back
Speaker 2: out to the area. We have filed multiple freedom of
Speaker 2: information requests with San Bernardino County. They first told us
Speaker 2: we would have a response by January ninth, The most
Speaker 2: recent date they have given us is January twenty first,
Speaker 2: so I will keep you updated.
Speaker 3: Commenters on Reddit who live.
Speaker 2: In the area talk about how the mob used to
Speaker 2: dump bodies out there in the desert and how people
Speaker 2: who use and deal methamphetamine are also around. The commoner
Speaker 2: on Reddit, who says they live nearby, kind of nailed
Speaker 2: the sometimes strange mix of people who populate the area
Speaker 2: when they wrote quote, I've heard the local meth heads
Speaker 2: make some comments about how easy it is to throw
Speaker 2: a body in a dryer, put the dryer in a wash, etc. However,
Speaker 2: it's become very popular among tourists, especially lately, and the
Speaker 2: sheer number of people is a newer development. Many of
Speaker 2: these tourists being folk who already live in southern California.
Speaker 2: I think that gives them a false sense of security.
Speaker 2: They think they know what the heat is like. They
Speaker 2: don't realize how vast the park really is, and the landmarks,
Speaker 2: while gorgeous, can easily all look the same end quote,
Speaker 2: and sometimes we discover the desert has become a dumping
Speaker 2: ground for killers hoping to cover their tracks. The desert
Speaker 2: where Erica Lloyd and James Escalante went missing is a
Speaker 2: spot where killers have been known to dump bodies. On
Speaker 2: June seventeenth, twenty fourteen, nineteen year old Aaron Corwin disappeared.
Speaker 2: Aaron was pregnant and she was married to a Marine
Speaker 2: who was stationed at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat
Speaker 2: Center in twenty nine Palms. The case made national news
Speaker 2: and everyone was looking for Erica, and after two months,
Speaker 2: her body was found hidden in an abandoned mine shaft
Speaker 2: near Joshua Tree. I want to note here that the
Speaker 2: person who led the search that found Erin was not
Speaker 2: the police. It was Doug Billings, the same cave and
Speaker 2: mining expert who found James Escalante's bike. It turned out
Speaker 2: that Aaron was actually having an affair with another marine,
Speaker 2: twenty seven year old Christopher Lee. Christopher was also married
Speaker 2: to someone else. He and Aaron were neighbors. Christopher was
Speaker 2: obsessively jealous and controlling of Erin. He later confess that
Speaker 2: after meeting her on the night she disappeared, he strangled
Speaker 2: her and through her body head first down the one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty foot mine shaft. He first lied to
Speaker 2: investigators about the affair, but after Aaron's body was found
Speaker 2: along with some mountaineering rope and a propane tank that
Speaker 2: were similar to ones Christopher owned. Evidence kept piling up,
Speaker 2: and he confessed to strangling her in a jealous rage
Speaker 2: and hiding her body in the mind. He said that
Speaker 2: he was depressed because he was not being redeployed.
Speaker 3: He was due to head back to his home state
Speaker 3: of Alaska.
Speaker 2: He also stated he believed that he might be the
Speaker 2: father of Aaron's unborn baby. He said in court that
Speaker 2: he was angry with Aeron because he believed that she
Speaker 2: had molested his other daughter, which, by the way, is
Speaker 2: the first time he ever said that.
Speaker 3: Investigators say this.
Speaker 2: Is obviously a lie, something he made up to try
Speaker 2: to get sympathy from the jury, but it was a
Speaker 2: justification that the jury did not buy. In twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: he was convicted of Aaron's murder. But I wonder if
Speaker 2: air Ar wasn't living on a military base, if she
Speaker 2: was someone who had a more nomadish life, and if
Speaker 2: the whole community hadn't rallied around a look, would they
Speaker 2: have ever found her. Erica Lloyd was totally unfamiliar with
Speaker 2: the location where she was found, but James Escalante was not.
Speaker 2: He had lived there for decades. He knew the desert
Speaker 2: like the back of his hand. Would it really be
Speaker 2: possible for him to get that disoriented? I look for
Speaker 2: similar cases and that led me to the disappearance of
Speaker 2: another person who went missing while on a short hike.
Speaker 2: Paul Miller was a fifty one year old man from Canada.
Speaker 2: On July thirteenth, twenty eighteen, he was on a bucket
Speaker 2: list road trip to the area with his wife, Stephanie Miller.
Speaker 2: They were staying at a hotel in twenty nine Palms.
Speaker 2: They had already been in Joshua Tree for several days.
Speaker 2: They were having a great time. They were hiking, They
Speaker 2: were checking out scenery. They were due to check out
Speaker 2: that day at eleven am and fly back to their
Speaker 2: home in Ontario. Since I know we're all true crime
Speaker 2: listeners here, I should say front they had a very
Speaker 2: happy marriage. They had grown children. They had been married
Speaker 2: for over twenty five years. There is no indication there
Speaker 2: was any trouble in their marriage. They went to several destinations,
Speaker 2: including the Grand Canyon, and were ending their trip at
Speaker 2: Joshua Tree before flying home. Stephanie told reporters as they
Speaker 2: were packing up, kind of on a whim, Paul said
Speaker 2: he was going out for one more quick hike to
Speaker 2: the forty nine Palms Oasis.
Speaker 3: According to a blog.
Speaker 2: Post later made by Paul's mom, at around nine am
Speaker 2: he went out. He left his cell phone behind, which
Speaker 2: was not out of character for him. Maybe he was
Speaker 2: also thinking about the fact that a lot of areas
Speaker 2: around Joshua Tree have zero reception For an experienced hiker
Speaker 2: like Paul. This trail would have been a fairly easy hike.
Speaker 2: It had a rank of moderate, it had a three
Speaker 2: hundred foot elevation game, It's a mile and a half
Speaker 2: in and a mile and a half out. He should
Speaker 2: have been back within an hour. It was a trail
Speaker 2: that he had actually been planning to hike together with
Speaker 2: his wife, but apparently it was raining on the day
Speaker 2: they planned to try it, so he just wanted to
Speaker 2: do one more thing before they left. At first, his
Speaker 2: wife thought maybe he was taking pictures or got caught up,
Speaker 2: but when he wasn't back by checkout time, she immediately
Speaker 2: contacted the authorities and they immediately started looking for him.
Speaker 2: Paul Miller was just gone. His family tried everything they
Speaker 2: could think of to look for him. They had drones
Speaker 2: go up via a nonprofit called Western States aerial search.
Speaker 2: They looked through thousands of images. Finally, on December twenty third,
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, they found his body crouched behind a large boulder.
Speaker 3: He still had water and food with him. They believed
Speaker 3: that he.
Speaker 2: Was hiking and headed back when, possibly due to the heat,
Speaker 2: he suffered some kind of physical collapse, maybe a heart
Speaker 2: attack or heat stroke. He probably just wanted to get
Speaker 2: to the shade, so he found the boulder and sat
Speaker 2: down there. Unfortunately, he never got up. They also think
Speaker 2: that after he at the forty nine Palms Oasis and
Speaker 2: was coming back, he might have seen something either a
Speaker 2: wash or an animal trail, something that looked like part
Speaker 2: of the regular trail. He might have gotten confused and
Speaker 2: wandered a little bit off course. They don't know if
Speaker 2: he had some kind of heart condition or felt sick,
Speaker 2: or why he headed to that shaded area.
Speaker 3: He might have even had hyperthermia.
Speaker 2: This can cause dizziness, weakness, nausea, and can incapacitate someone
Speaker 2: very quickly, especially if there's something else going on physically.
Speaker 2: Even a seasoned hiker on a short, easy route can
Speaker 2: be at risk of death.
Speaker 3: If they get turned around.
Speaker 2: I want to just take a second here for anyone
Speaker 2: who's a hiker or even headed out to an area
Speaker 2: with no cell reception, please let someone know where you're going.
Speaker 2: Remember there is no cell surface in a lot of
Speaker 2: these places. Officials recommend that you carry a minimum of
Speaker 2: one gallon of water per person per day. They recommend
Speaker 2: hikers carry two gallons per person per day. They recommend
Speaker 2: avoiding strenuous activity when there's extreme heat, wearing sunscreen, sunglasses,
Speaker 2: and a hat, and one of the most important, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, consider hiking with another person. They also warned
Speaker 2: that quote dramatic weather changes can occur with little to
Speaker 2: no warning end quote. Joshua Tree National Park is huge,
Speaker 2: over three hundred miles. Weather can turn on a dime.
Speaker 2: Whatever happened to Paul Miller probably happened very quickly. We
Speaker 2: may never know exactly what happened, but it wasn't foul play.
Speaker 2: It does go to show even with a lot of
Speaker 2: help and searchers, even when they knew the exact area
Speaker 2: he would be in, finding people in that desert can
Speaker 2: be like finding a needle in a haystack. Stephanie Miller
Speaker 2: said after Paul's remains were found, she realized they'd been
Speaker 2: searching very close to where he was, within twenty one
Speaker 2: yards close enough so if he had been conscious, she
Speaker 2: believes he would have heard them screaming his name. I
Speaker 2: want to add when the family was trying to do
Speaker 2: everything they could to get searchers out there, they contacted
Speaker 2: the company I mentioned that had drones. Now, apparently there
Speaker 2: are rules about where drones can fly to national parks.
Speaker 2: Stephanie Miller has said she wants to make it easier
Speaker 2: for families to be able to get drones in to
Speaker 2: national parks to search for their missing loved ones. She
Speaker 2: hopes that Paul's death will help to make changes on
Speaker 2: that front, which I think is a very good cause.
Speaker 2: Then there was Patrick Wells, a thirty eight year old
Speaker 2: man who left his home in twenty nine Palms on
Speaker 2: June fifth, twenty twenty one. He was headed to see
Speaker 2: his dad, who lived in Riverside, California, but he never
Speaker 2: got there.
Speaker 3: No one ever heard from him again.
Speaker 2: Then on June eighteenth, park rangers found his pickup truck
Speaker 2: in Ridlesnake Canyon at the Indian Cove Campground. Again, in
Speaker 2: Joshua Tree National Park, they found a human arm sticking
Speaker 2: out from under a large Boulder and the San Bernardino
Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Department Search and Rescue cave unit came to
Speaker 2: the scene. The coroner later issued a press release confirming
Speaker 2: the body was Patrick Wells. No cause of death was listed.
Speaker 2: They have stated that there was no reason to suspect
Speaker 2: foul play in that case either, just another mysterious death
Speaker 2: in San Bernardino County. In the summer of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: Heather Escalante and her husband, John, James's son, flew out
Speaker 2: to Wonder Valley, California, from their home in South Carolina
Speaker 2: and started their own investigation. They met up with Kyle Gibson,
Speaker 2: the hunter who found James's body, and he took them
Speaker 2: out to the exact location where he had found james skeleton.
Speaker 3: Heather said that.
Speaker 2: When she mentioned some of the inconsistencies in Sherry's story
Speaker 2: to detectives, she asked that James's case be transferred to homicide.
Speaker 2: She said detectives were resistant to do that, and she
Speaker 2: said while she accepts that James may have died of
Speaker 2: natural causes or overdosed, or something else that did not
Speaker 2: involve foul play, she just wants to believe that detectives
Speaker 2: investigated the case thoroughly before coming to that conclusion. Everyone,
Speaker 2: even people who weren't their quotes perfect victims, deserve justice.
Speaker 1: When I raised such a think about James's case being
Speaker 1: transferred over to homicide, had got a very strange phone
Speaker 1: call because I would say it, I would email it,
Speaker 1: and then nobody would respond, so I'd email again and
Speaker 1: put somebody higher up on the email chain rankfully. Detective
Speaker 1: Halloway called me, and I'd taught them so much at
Speaker 1: this point, like I kind of felt like I knew him.
Speaker 1: I immediately knew something was off by his tone and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, hey, Heather, Detective Halloway. I was
Speaker 1: like hey, and he's like, so we got your emails
Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, and he said, well, my superior,
Speaker 1: my superior, my boss was on the email and he
Speaker 1: after reading your email, he personally went through James's file.
Speaker 1: At this point tells me, oh, I'm sorry. He started
Speaker 1: off by telling you that I was on speaker phone
Speaker 1: and he was not alone. Yeah, somebody sitting there who
Speaker 1: never spoke the whole time we were talking, and he had
Speaker 1: me on speaker that said okay. He tells me that
Speaker 1: his boss looked at the file and not only did
Speaker 1: he get basically his wrists flapped for how much information
Speaker 1: he actually gave me about James's case throughout the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but he also got in trouble for spending too much
Speaker 1: time investigating it. He tells me that at that point,
Speaker 1: his boss is staying that unless they get a viable lead,
Speaker 1: not some tweaker taale with his exact words, that they
Speaker 1: can follow up on, that basically they're done investigating his cakes.
Speaker 1: And I said, so, let me get this straight. Everybody
Speaker 1: involved don drugs, but you don't want to hear what
Speaker 1: they have to say. But they're the only ones who
Speaker 1: don't know anythings. They were the ones that falls right right,
Speaker 1: And he just sat there. He wouldn't even answer me.
Speaker 1: Then I found this one even weirder because at the
Speaker 1: end of the conversation they're basically telling me there's nothing
Speaker 1: they're going to do. That was what that was the
Speaker 1: just for the conversation, that is, drop it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, y'all will know me that. Well, apparently
Speaker 1: I'm not dropping it. Yeah, so looks like that might
Speaker 1: work on other people. You got the wrong ones today.
Speaker 2: Heather claims there are a lot of people out in
Speaker 2: the desert who the police have not talked to. So
Speaker 2: in next week's episode, we are going to focus our
Speaker 2: search in Wonder Valley, California and see if we can
Speaker 2: find some of these people and try to get answers
Speaker 2: about what actually happened to James Escalante on the day
Speaker 2: he disappeared. I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line.
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Speaker 2: Catherine Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts. Special thanks to
Speaker 2: Amy Tubbs for her research assistance.
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