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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets Up? Listeners back here for episode

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Speaker 1: number fifty three of the met stub podcast. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm your co host Draftnick Mark, Mark Luino here with

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Speaker 1: James Sheiano Jeter had no range talking about the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets really painful end of the season. Here, just

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Speaker 1: finished up a series where we got we got swept

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Speaker 1: by the Brewers. Shocker who saw that coming? Definitely not us, right, No,

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Speaker 1: not us, not us did not play well. Played about

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Speaker 1: as bad as baseball as we've played all year long.

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Speaker 1: Bad offense, bad defense, bad pitching. There really wasn't many

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Speaker 1: positive things to take out from these games, but hey,

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Speaker 1: that's all I got for the plug here. Let let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it now, James, how are you feeling, dude?

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Speaker 2: This has been an actual catastrophic collapse by this Mets team.

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Speaker 2: The way we've played in the second half. This is

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Speaker 2: one of the worst stretches I can remember, literally in

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Speaker 2: our life lifetimes from a Mets team, like just rolling

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Speaker 1: This one doesn't hurt as bad as you know the

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Speaker 1: it's really a kick in the balls. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how to explain it any other way than that it's

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Speaker 1: really disappointing. It's this is like an embarrassing way to

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Speaker 2: Before that Pirates series, that string of seven straight games

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Speaker 2: against the Pirates that we were so excited for. Before

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Speaker 2: the All Star break, the Mets were forty six and

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Speaker 2: thirty eight, in the first place in the National League

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Speaker 2: East by four and a half games, and the only

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Speaker 2: the time. The Nationals were only five games behind us.

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Speaker 1: Then remember that, do you guys? Remember that? Those were

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Remember we were sweating about only taking you know, a

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Speaker 1: I know we're gonna tell us next year, but where

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: As I'm sure everyone knows right now.

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Speaker 2: After this second consecutive sweep, the Mets are seventy three

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Speaker 2: and eighty two. That was second of sweep right last year?

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Speaker 2: Who did you play at the beginning of all the

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Speaker 2: Won the one Phillies game and swept by the Cardinals. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Record stands is seventy three and eighty two. So it

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Speaker 2: We were, of course eliminated from the playoffs. We didn't

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Speaker 1: It's like embarrassing, it's disappointing, it's it's so so sad.

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Speaker 1: What a travesty, what a waste of a fucking year.

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Speaker 1: Like, I feel like what happened is normally like the

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Speaker 2: And we did have the six game winning winning streak

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Speaker 2: So if you take out games against the Nationals in

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Speaker 2: That's not a joke of a sample. The M's have

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Speaker 3: I've never seen the Mets team look this dead.

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Speaker 1: So dead, it's we'll talk about it because even Gary

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say chippy because that's not the

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Speaker 1: right word, but ornery. Ornery ornery is the word. Is

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Speaker 1: I would have been I would have been disappointed in

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Speaker 1: like there's more questions than answers right now with this

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Speaker 2: There's way more questions and answers. Like we're literally one

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Speaker 2: of the worst teams in baseball. We're blocked and loathed

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Speaker 2: to have a top ten pick in the draft again

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Speaker 2: for what feels like like the fifth time in six years. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: we're we're approaching one of the longest playoff drafts, like

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Speaker 1: Here, Yeah we are. Oh, bro, I don't even want

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Speaker 1: I can't believe the season's gotten to this. I really can't.

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Speaker 1: I know, we've kind of been talking for you know,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like you guys can feel our pain.

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Speaker 1: It's just there's no world where I imagine this happening.

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Speaker 1: The Mets might have ninety losses. There's a very good

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Speaker 1: We had to lose every game of the year, that

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Speaker 3: A few weeks A wait.

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Speaker 2: This is just such like disappointment and just what's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon Nemo triple because Brandon Nemo is about the

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Speaker 1: You hit really well in Milwaukee this series, three for

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Speaker 2: If Brandon Nemo ever wound up on the Brewers, like

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Speaker 2: that was the team he played for, he'd probably win

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Speaker 1: Probably somehow they'd figure out how to get him to

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Speaker 1: I saw someone on Twitter the other day when I

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Speaker 3: I really think they were trolling you.

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Speaker 1: Has to be has to be right, because you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't think this if I think he's criminally underrated.

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Speaker 2: Your responses under that tweet were raw as fuck. People

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Speaker 1: A lot of lindoor comments, a lot of lindoor and bias.

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Speaker 1: It was a personal attack. But again, enough about my Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to this game here, because, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know how we scored that first thing run, Well, gave

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Speaker 1: it right back Colton Wang because why not Colton Wong

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Speaker 1: kick us in the teeth the home.

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Speaker 2: Run and the worst part two and now in the

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Speaker 2: one to one game that was I want to say

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Speaker 2: again it was winnable, but like not because the Mets

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Speaker 1: Earth, which is just simply not.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: He has been very good this year. He has had

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Speaker 1: a nice year and he's looked great of late, but

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Speaker 1: he is not the best picture on planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: No, he's been good, but he's been like a soft

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Speaker 2: He was perfect for the first nine batters of this game.

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Speaker 3: With more than one hundred innings throw in his season.

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Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, And like all the things considered rich Hill,

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Speaker 1: the head. I think we want to believe that this

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00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,520
Speaker 1: team is better and that we should be better. I

439
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,720
Speaker 1: don't think we're wrong for thinking at the start of

440
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,240
Speaker 1: the season, But if you're still thinking that now, I mean,

441
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,520
Speaker 1: where's your head at? Because it is what one hundred

442
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,240
Speaker 1: and fifty games into the season and nothing has changed.

443
00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,320
Speaker 2: I feel like such an asshole for thinking the Mets

444
00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,600
Speaker 2: were gonna be like one of the elite hitting teams

445
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,400
Speaker 2: in baseball this year. Like, I look up and down

446
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,920
Speaker 2: this lineup, and half of these guys just they can't play,

447
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,080
Speaker 2: Like they just can't do it.

448
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,439
Speaker 1: No, we don't have capable everyday players at every position,

449
00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,720
Speaker 1: and that's really tough when there are a bunch of

450
00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,760
Speaker 1: teams who do have them.

451
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,280
Speaker 2: Tons of teams that have them, a lot of them,

452
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,920
Speaker 2: all the ones that make the playoffs have those, and

453
00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 2: we just don't. And then after this, Gary started taking

454
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,720
Speaker 2: shots at Rojas. I think everyone is pretty much done

455
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,879
Speaker 2: with him. While he's not like the worst manager in

456
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,760
Speaker 2: the world, he's definitely being scapegoaded for a lot of

457
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,880
Speaker 2: these issues, which I don't know. You got, you gotta

458
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 2: sometimes you just gotta hate the lunch lady.

459
00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that happened. I don't know. I again, I think

460
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,400
Speaker 1: we're both in the same boat here that Rojas isn't

461
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,080
Speaker 1: the problem, but he also might not be the solution.

462
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's maybe where we've changed our thought

463
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,280
Speaker 1: process from the beginning of the year, is that we

464
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Speaker 1: thought Rojas is gonna be the guy, He's gonna be

465
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,200
Speaker 1: the dude to help lead us there. And maybe that

466
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,119
Speaker 1: was a mistake on us. Maybe we were getting a

467
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,160
Speaker 1: little excited, but I don't know, I'm starting to lose

468
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,000
Speaker 1: faith that he's not the answer again, not the problem,

469
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 1: but not the solution. Gary was upset that Rojas was

470
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 1: not chirping the umpire and before the game the Mets

471
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 1: had found out that they were eliminated from playoff contention,

472
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 1: well known public info. The players, the managers, they had

473
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 1: to know. There's no way you didn't. If you didn't know,

474
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, the season's over. Gary wasn't calling him out

475
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: for dogging it. He wasn't saying you weren't trying hard,

476
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 1: but he was upset that Rojas seemed to not care

477
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 1: about the balls and shrikes, which were, you know, questionable

478
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,240
Speaker 1: at times, especially when Rojas has been one of the

479
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 1: more vocal managers in baseball this year about balls and shrikes.

480
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,920
Speaker 1: So Gary he was upset. He was basically like, listen,

481
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,560
Speaker 1: even though you're out of playoffs season, those season's over.

482
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,760
Speaker 1: You still gotta play the games. You still gotta go

483
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 1: out there, you still gotta fight a little bit. I

484
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,440
Speaker 1: think Gary's kind of right. This is something that we're

485
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 1: seeing with this team right now. There just really isn't

486
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,600
Speaker 1: a fight left in them right now. And can I

487
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,600
Speaker 1: blame them no to long season. It's been a rough

488
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 1: season for the Mets. It's been They've been through a

489
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 1: lot of shit. I'm sure they're tired. I'm sure they're

490
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 1: ready to go home. But got ten more games. I mean,

491
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 1: you gotta go out swinging a little bit, a little

492
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: bit something.

493
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Speaker 2: I also think that this is more of an issue

494
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 2: because it's something that Luis Rojas did so consistently earlier

495
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 2: in the year, when this team was competitive and they

496
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 2: were like fighting every single day. If he was never

497
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 2: a vocal manager and he never really tried to chew

498
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 2: out umpires like I would say, yeah, sure, but remember

499
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 2: he had that week when things were starting to really

500
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 2: go to shit in July when he just argued every

501
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 2: single call, yeah, thrown out like multiple games, like showed fire.

502
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: Like, if that's going to be your personality, you have

503
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 3: to be consistent with it.

504
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't want it makes me kind of like lose

505
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 2: faith in his authenticity that he was doing something a

506
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 2: lot and now was starting not to anymore. And that

507
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: is probably the biggest insult of him. I could possibly

508
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: say that's the biggest red flag that I've noticed now

509
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 2: over this absolute massive collapse.

510
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're gonna make something of it, maybe it

511
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 1: makes me think that he doesn't really know what to do.

512
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 1: And that's that is concerning with manager. If you don't

513
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: know what to do, it might not be the right guy.

514
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: And that maybe makes me think that that Rohaus is like,

515
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: maybe I gotta fire these guys up. Maybe that's something

516
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: with the players too. Maybe he's like, I gotta try

517
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: and fire these guys up, or if they're not gonna care,

518
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna carry. I don't know. I really don't

519
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's just not great in

520
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: mets Land right now. And the fact that Gary and

521
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 1: Keith and Ron and everybody is just kind of openly

522
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: now I don't want to say bashing, but kind of

523
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 1: not holding back at all. It's kind of showing that

524
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of done with it.

525
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's why these guys are the best in

526
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 3: the BIS.

527
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 2: Like you watch other other teams play baseball and their

528
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: announcers are complete fucking snooze fest, Like these are real

529
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 2: fans who care very much about success of this team,

530
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: and when things are not going well, they're gonna say it.

531
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Speaker 3: And we as Mets fans, have to appreciate.

532
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: That because they're the only reason to turn the TV

533
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: on now, literally, like they are so entertaining and they're

534
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: so good at their job. I tried to watch the

535
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: games today, have just random teams, snooze fest, can't do it,

536
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: can't do it. Good games, close games. Not interested because

537
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: the announcers literally don't say anything, Gary, Keith and Ron.

538
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: They keep you interested in the game even when you

539
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: know the season is dead in the water.

540
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 2: And I guess that just take us, like slowly and

541
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: solemnly into Game three where Carls Carrasco was pitching, and

542
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: Mark You'll never guess what happened the first inning of

543
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: this game. He had to have a one two, three inning,

544
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: no hits, no runs, You're.

545
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: Like really close, but he gave up a home run.

546
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, we knew that was common. I mean,

547
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: who do you give it up to this time? Was

548
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: it my boy? It was my boy, Willia Damas, right,

549
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 1: I think it.

550
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: Was Willia domas As. Yeah, because Cultumong was the game one. Yeah, yeah,

551
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: it was Willia Damas. But this Carls Carrasco.

552
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: First, anything is now just becoming comical.

553
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: This was his eleventh start of the season, so he's

554
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: pitched eleven first innings and he's given up eighteen earned runs.

555
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

556
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 2: And he completely wasted Francisco indoors top of the first

557
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 2: inning home run again. Actually, Met's winning early in this game.

558
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: We were leading twice in three games. That never happens

559
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: to this team.

560
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: No, never happens. Don't We don't get ahead early, and

561
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: apparently we don't hold it when we get ahead early

562
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: either anymore. I don't know. I like, I don't want

563
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: to make this a storyline because it it really doesn't

564
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: matter at this point in the season, but like, it

565
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: is fascinating, fascinating how he just continues to get Sheldon

566
00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: the first.

567
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: His first era rose this game from fourteen point four

568
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: zero to fourteen point seventy three. And I did some

569
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: stat head research and this would be right now, the

570
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: twentieth highest era of the history of baseball for a

571
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: single picture in a in the first inning, and like

572
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: literally the history of the game, twentieth highest, twenty nine.

573
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: And this is again all pictures who made at least

574
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: ten starts, so at least ten first innings. But it's

575
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: actually not the highest of any pitcher in baseball this year,

576
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: which shocked me. J. C.

577
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: Mahia on Cleveland, who is just not very good.

578
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: He is higher.

579
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: He's in like the low fifteens.

580
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: J C.

581
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 1: Mhia, that's at that's not even a real person. John

582
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Carlos Mahia, who we're comparing him to, Carlos Carrasco.

583
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: He has a higher first in the era than him,

584
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: but the twentiest, twentieth highest first in the era in

585
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: the history of baseball, Carlos Carrasco this year, the history

586
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: of baseball.

587
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: It's it's I don't know, I don't know. Like the

588
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: good thing is that these games don't matter. The season's over,

589
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: so that's that's the solace in it. Just get better

590
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: for next year. What's crazy about him is he just

591
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: normally does well. This one not so much. He got

592
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: shelled the rest of the game.

593
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: Oh well, he gave up three more runs in the

594
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: second inning. And he wounds up this game with more

595
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: walks and strikeouts, five and runs and just fifty three

596
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 2: percent of his pitch for mid nineties fastballs, Like.

597
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: You're not You're not gonna do that.

598
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: I guess the team who could hit like the Brewers.

599
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: There's been this weird twist in what seems like the

600
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: Mets pitchers focus recently. It just feels like very, very

601
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: four seam fastball heavy. Do they think that they're facing

602
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: the Mets batters. I don't know what's going on there, because,

603
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, typically around baseball, you look around the numbers,

604
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: teams hit fastballs. It's just the Mets having in an uptitude,

605
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: but everyone else seems to hit them.

606
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: I think just trying to crawl to the end of

607
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 3: the year. Just get the fuck out of here. I mean,

608
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

609
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: Maybe Crasco doesn't have field for zaust beats, maybe he

610
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: just quit this game. Maybe they're I don't even want

611
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: to say they're experimenting because it's a four seam fastball.

612
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: It's probably not experimentation here. It's just they're just not good.

613
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: This team just really not good. We're not competitive. We

614
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: just fucking stink. Like it's literally just Javey Lindor and

615
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Nemo and jave Lindor did get the RBIs some of

616
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: the RBIs in this game.

617
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: They just guys continue to hit.

618
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 2: They seem to be like some kind of magic when

619
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: they're on the field together, even though the rest of

620
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: the team completely sucks stick and that error sequence I

621
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: think it was the seventh inning was just such awful,

622
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: bad sloppy baseball.

623
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: It was just the sign of a team that has quit.

624
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just uh we kind of brought it back.

625
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: It was what five to four, I think at the time,

626
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 1: or six to four, whatever it was. It was five

627
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: four was one run game, Yeah, close game. Uh VR

628
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: made that weird, just like kind of shit. The bed

629
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: had a freak out, Shantan VR at third base, Like

630
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: you told me off the podcast, you're gonna get that

631
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: sometimes with them. That's what you signed up for, Cabalerra Loco,

632
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna happen.

633
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: He like deeked the first, like his mind wasn't made up.

634
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: Like when you're playing baseball, you're taught nowhere you're going

635
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: with the ball before it'sits to you, so you could

636
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: just react, and he like made a movement to first,

637
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: and then in the middle of that he decided to

638
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: move it to home. Middle of that, he decided to

639
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: throw the first. He wasn't really set. It was just

640
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: it was just a bad era of real mental laps,

641
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: bad baseball. Lindor also made an error a few bads

642
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: later on a very tough play in the hole that

643
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: like opened the flood games. It was a miracle even

644
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: got to the ball, and sure he made an error,

645
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: like he could have made a perfect throw he didn't,

646
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna kill him for that. I'm not

647
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: gonna kill a guy for anything. Right now.

648
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: He's just wound up having like a very good season.

649
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, he uh, you know, one of the more

650
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: disappointing years in the stat book because you see that

651
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: seven twenty ohps or whatever it is, and you're like,

652
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: that's not what we signed up for. But it's just

653
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: it's whatever. Man, I'm just so I'm so over the whole,

654
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: like Lindor stinks. Thing, like if you can't take a

655
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: deeper look into what he's actually done since like kind

656
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: of figuring it out, he's back to normally. He's been very,

657
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: very good this year outside of that first two months.

658
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: Dude, he's been actually a fan I want to say fantastic,

659
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: but I think he's been pretty fucking good after that

660
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: dreadful start. The fact that he's gotten his full season

661
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: WRC plus over one hundred is really good. It means

662
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: he's like, literally, even for as bad as he was

663
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: for legit fifty of one hundred and eighteen games that

664
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: he's played, he has become now a statistically above average

665
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: hitre in baseball. It reminds me so much about Tran's

666
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: first year, Yeah, where it was so terrible and he

667
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: quietly looked really good and then he exploded for the

668
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: rest of the contract. Beau, He's one of the best

669
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: players in baseball, just like Lindor. And the top of that,

670
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: Lindor is like walking at a career high rate. His

671
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: power is like pretty much in line with I mean,

672
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: that's definitely well below where he's.

673
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 3: Been for a lot of his career.

674
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: His babbitp is at like a shocking low for player

675
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: who hits the ball as hard as he does, and

676
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: it was as fast as he is his full season

677
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: sluggings at three ninety seven, I feel like it's gonna

678
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: get over four hundred by the end of the season.

679
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Like this really isn't like a dreadful year. People who

680
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: want like to kill the guy and just crucify him

681
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: for having it off a year and blaming the shot

682
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: on him, look in the mirror. You can't do that

683
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: this is the best player in this team and you

684
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: must should be treated as such. Well, yeah, outside of

685
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: Jacob d grim best offensive player of course. Yeah, And

686
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: that's again, that's the big dark cloud hangover with the

687
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: entire second half. That's just when Jacob de Grom got hurt.

688
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 2: If he's pitching every five days, we have seven, eight,

689
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: nine more wins, We're probably still very much in the

690
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: thick of it.

691
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: And it's different juice, too, different juice.

692
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: Way different juice. He's the best player on your team

693
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: and you've lost him. If you think the best player

694
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: off any team in baseball, what do you think.

695
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Is going to happen?

696
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: Where would the Yankees be without garat Cole, Where would

697
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays be without that Robbie Ray, as funny

698
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: as he has to say, again, this happened to the

699
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: race you took Tyler glasson that way. But they're a

700
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: different animal. You can't compare yourself.

701
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: To the Rays.

702
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: No, you can't, because you're not going to be the

703
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Rais right now. It's just not. The Mets aren't built

704
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: to be like the Rays right now. I'd love to

705
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: get there at some point, but we're not there. We're

706
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: not even close.

707
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: Imagine if Zach Wheeler, just as he was out for

708
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: the season in the middle of July, the Phillies would be.

709
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: As bad as we are right now, if not worse.

710
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: No, definitely no help.

711
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: Like this isn't how it works. If Kevin Gousman or

712
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: just like is something bad happened to me and pitched

713
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: the whole second half, the Giants be ten games behind

714
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: the Dodgers by now, so still barely ahead of them.

715
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: And that's why it's so important to have that depth.

716
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this on multiple episodes, but that's

717
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: why it's so important, and not just from the starting

718
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: pitching or the relief pitching aspect of the game, but

719
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: the entire organization needs to be deep. Look at who

720
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: the Brewers pulled out this series. Look at who the

721
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: Giants have pulled out. We keep saying these same teams

722
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: over and over again because there's a common theme here.

723
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: The teams who are at the top, the teams who

724
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: are succeeding have some of the deepest rosters. They have

725
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: the top line talent for sure, and they have very

726
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: very good players. But then you look at the Giants

727
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: and they've figured a way out to have mediocre players

728
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: play at their best capable possibilities. You're getting Brandon Crawfory's

729
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: thirty five years old, having the best season of his career.

730
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: While I am shocked by it, I don't understand how

731
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: clearly the Giants figured something out with Brandon Crawford that

732
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: has elevated his game. The Mets need to find these

733
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of people who can help elevate the guys that

734
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: we have here right now, as well as bringing the

735
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: right guys to help fill out that roster, because again,

736
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: we just haven't had the depth that we thought we

737
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: did going into the season. I think we completely undervalued

738
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: that and it's really showing here down the stretch.

739
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: Dude, even if you want to look at the team

740
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: closer than the Giants, the Atlanta Braves in our own division,

741
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: have us have used their depth so well this season,

742
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: especially since the trade deadline. But you look at a

743
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 2: player like Tuki Tusan, who so many people rode off

744
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: over the last few years say he was reliever, I'll

745
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: never be a pitcher. He's given the Braves like for

746
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: the really really good innings over the last month or so, Oscar,

747
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: you KNOWO came out of God knows where to have

748
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: a great season for them. That's very similar to McGill

749
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: for us, but like, of course much better. But like

750
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: they've gotten so much contribution from so many names that

751
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: meant that you wouldn't have expected. Like we've talked a

752
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: lot about the trade deadline, getting Duval, Solair, Peterson, Eddi Rizzaro.

753
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: That's four outfielders. The Braves acquired four outfielders at the

754
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: trade deadline, Like you only play three. Oh the Mets

755
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: would be like, oh my god, we can't acquire a

756
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: fourth outfielder. Then has Jeff McGill gonna get his at bats?

757
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

758
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: Pressure makes diamonds, the cream rises to the top. You

759
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: just have to get in players not care about feelings

760
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: or anything. Like your Heredi was playing very well for

761
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: the Braves. There weren't like we have our depth outfielder.

762
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Let's get more depth outfielder. Jack the Jack Pearson's the

763
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: guy who's played in the World Series. No one that

764
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: thinks Jack Pearson is gonna be the best player in baseball.

765
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: But nobody would tell you he's not valuable, Like.

766
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: He's not better than Guermo Heredia.

767
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: No, of course, Like like Richard Rodriguez pulled him in

768
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: the trade deadlines. Very valuable reliever, especially in the season

769
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: when Will Smith and Chris Martin have struggled and Luke

770
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Jackson is just not very good.

771
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: Like Tyler Matzk went down. He was one of the

772
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: best relievers for most of the year.

773
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: People step up, do some shit like that, like Mets

774
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: were just scared of depth for some reason because everyone

775
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: was such goddamn good friends. The Braves lost Ronald the

776
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: Kunya Jr. And they've been better since.

777
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't that that that right there is the sentence

778
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: right there, because rond Acuna Junior, in all intents and purposes,

779
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: is our Jacob de gram. He is the best player

780
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: on that team. He is the most valuable player on

781
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: that team. He's a top five player in base ball

782
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. I think there's no doubt in anybody's

783
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: mind how good that kid is. And they lost them

784
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: and they got better. The Mets had an opportunity to

785
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: do something similar. The Mets had an opportunity to trade

786
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: for everybody. They gave up nothing for the guys that

787
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: they got nothing, nothing, nothing, Riley Adams, Riley Freakin Adams,

788
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: whoever it was, I don't know that.

789
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: Was the Brett hand tray. That was the Brett hand tray.

790
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: The Brads gave up another backup catcher to get du

791
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: val I forgot who it was.

792
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: They gave him Alex Jackson. That that guy sucks. That

793
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: would be we could have traded Tomas Neito. That's what

794
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: you're telling me right there, because Alex Jackson is not

795
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: even a third of the player that Tomas Needo is.

796
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: Alex Jackson's way worse. We could have trade Tomas Needo

797
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: for Adam duval This also just.

798
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: Comes down to general team building philosophy and where the

799
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: Mets seem to probably still be behind. The Braids knew

800
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: they weren't gonna be able to replace role Y Couny

801
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: with one player. They weren't going to deplete their farm

802
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: system to go out and acquire like some of the

803
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: best players on the market like a Jave or Chris

804
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: Bryant or it was another big bat that was traded

805
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: Nelson Cruiz, even though doesn't.

806
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: Count for the Trey Turner.

807
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: Turner like, you're working to get a guy like that,

808
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: So like, let's play the scrap heep, Let's find a market.

809
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: The inefficiency and let's just get a bunch of players.

810
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: Eventually, some of these guys, who all still have pretty

811
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: good projections in the grand scheme of things, will step

812
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: up because they're good, consistent, solid Major leaguers. They have

813
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: him for a while, all these proven track records. The

814
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: mess don't have anyone in the roster with a proven

815
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: track record like Eddie Rizzario. As insane of a sentence,

816
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 2: that is, Jorge Hilaire is like top five in baseball

817
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: home runs over the last four years. Like they got

818
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: him for nothing, nothing at all. The worlds gave him away,

819
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: like these opportunities existed. And again I'm not gonna kill

820
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: the mest trade deadline because Richell has been good, Trevor

821
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: Williams has been adequate, and Hobby Bias has been great.

822
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: They did it, but there just had to be more

823
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: filler taken in and you just had to get more bodies,

824
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: and for some reason, we just didn't feel the need

825
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: to do that.

826
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, team building aspect, it's a problem. It's something we

827
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: definitely need to look into this offseason and something that honestly,

828
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: I think we're probably gonna talk about a lot me

829
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: and you We've done it the last couple of years

830
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: looking for these guys that could be the next Darren

831
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: Ruffs or the next Lamont Way juniors. You were big

832
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: on a guy like Ryan Cordell, who was a Met

833
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: a few years ago. I would have loved to have

834
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: given him another shot, Like he has the tools that

835
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: can make you think that why not make it work

836
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: if you put him in the right scenario. So hopefully

837
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: the Mets addressed that this offseason. Finish up Game three here.

838
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: The Mets have one win since that Sunday night win

839
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: against the New York Yankees when we said they're back.

840
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: We are not back. We are done.

841
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: We're dead.

842
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: D e A D dead and then some other I

843
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: guess housekeeping things here. No cinderguard rehabbing, But is he

844
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: even rehabbing? What is that?

845
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: It's such a farce what's going on with no cindergarden

846
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: and even Jacob de Gard. But now the fact that

847
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: these guys are even throwing pitches off the mound is

848
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: completely disgraceful, Like there's no reason for this whatsoever. No

849
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: cinderguard can't throw a breaking ball. His fastball is maxing

850
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: out like ninety five.

851
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: That's not good.

852
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: He's that's a subpar picture. That's not a ninety five

853
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: mile hour fastball and like an eighty eight mile hour changeup.

854
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Who's not gonna hit that in Major League baseball.

855
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: He gets the qualifying offer obviously, right, but you don't

856
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: you don't give a long term contract at all now,

857
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: or if you do, you completely under sell.

858
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: Right, No, I'm gonna I'm gonna low ball the shit out.

859
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: I know, Cindergard, I really don't care at all, but

860
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: I should have still a good picture in there. Sometimes

861
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: it just takes guys like eighteen months instead of twelve

862
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: to come back from Tommy John Sergey. We've seen that

863
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: a lot of pitches in the past, Like it took

864
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler about two full years and he became one

865
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: of the best pitchers in baseball.

866
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that five years down the line, no.

867
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: Cinderguard will be like one of the thirty best pitchers

868
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: in baseball because he's still like not even thirty years old.

869
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: He's still sick.

870
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still sick.

871
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: Pictures primes are a little bit later than his primes

872
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: because it's so much more about like your mind than

873
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: your physical ability. Because if you're a freak like I

874
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: got like a Max Chers or a Charlie Morton, that

875
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: physical ability will not win as long as you're training properly.

876
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: The guy like Alex Cobb is gonna have a career

877
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: renaissance right now, from thirty five to thirty eight, Like

878
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it.

879
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: You can't let go of no Cindergard.

880
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: But what's going on right now is troubling, strange and

881
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: very old Mets, like.

882
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Yes, very old Mets like he should not throw a

883
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: pitch in a major league game this year, absolutely not.

884
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: I think another thing to talk about here was pitching.

885
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Kyle was Body Body. I don't know how browns his

886
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: name like Body Body, Kyle Body. If you guys don't

887
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: know who is He's the drive line guy. He worked

888
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: with the Reds. He was the guy who's been the

889
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: architect behind all their pitchers getting better. I mean every

890
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: single one of them. I know he shall not be named,

891
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: but Trevor Bauer big reason why his game elevated so

892
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: much was because of Kyle Body Body.

893
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: And you look up and down the Red system this year,

894
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: like guys like Nicolodolo and Hunter Green took massive steps forward.

895
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Vladimer Guieirass came out of the clear blue sky to

896
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: be a consistent major league pitcher.

897
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Wade Miley's having a career season. A very low key

898
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: prospect on the Reds name is Graham Ashcraft. Just like

899
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: dominated this season.

900
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: He went from High A to Double A, striking out

901
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: thirty four percent of the batters in High YEA, twenty

902
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: five percent of the batteries in Double A. No like, literally,

903
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: no kind of prospect, petigreg whatsoever. But he just throws

904
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: like ninety eight now with a great slider in a

905
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: great card ball. When you have all this technology and

906
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: data and you could turn pictures into like machines, like

907
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: you gotta do it. And the Reds have let him

908
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: go because they're a poorly run organization who treats their

909
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: own like dogshit. Besides Joey Vado, they're basically told Kyle

910
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Body they're not going to renew him, They're not going

911
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: to pay him, even though he's been like a central

912
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: piece of the organization for the two years since he's

913
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: been hired. During the short and twenty twenty draft, it

914
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: only went five rounds, there was a lot of competition

915
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: to sign the undrafted players, and a lot of pitchers

916
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: have said that a lot of pitchers signed with the

917
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Reds after that draft, and most of them did it

918
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: because they said it was Kyle Body. And I remember

919
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: some crazy like FCS or Division two I think relievers,

920
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: some guy with crazy strike guys and crazy stuff who

921
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: wasn't drafted because he had no pedigree. Said that basically

922
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: every single team in baseball offers him a deal, and

923
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: that teams like, we can put you in this situation,

924
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: we'd love to do this with you, We love you

925
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: for this, and that they said Kyle Body came to

926
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: him with an entire plan of action for his next

927
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: like two years of development, exactly how he was going

928
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: to train him to be the best he.

929
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: Possibly could be.

930
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 2: And now he's talking to the Mets about possibly joining

931
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: our organization, and boy would that be a slam dunk.

932
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been some conflicting reports. Of course. Andy Martino,

933
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: who just wants to rain on every Mets fan parade

934
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: any chance he can, said that there's been no talks,

935
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: but then other people has been saying that there's heavy talks,

936
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: that the Mets are super interested. Whatever it is Kyle

937
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Body plus Jeremy Hefner, the two pitching whispers and baseball.

938
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Sign me up, get those two married. Whatever it takes,

939
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: pay him, pay him, give him the money, Steve, whatever

940
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: he wants, give it to him. This guy is at

941
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: the front line of pitching innovation, he has been. You

942
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: need to get this guy there because this can help

943
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: the pharm system. Is this can help the guys that

944
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: we have year now, you can turn turds to diamonds

945
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: in the rough. Basically, I don't even want to see turds.

946
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: It's a little harsh, but like you could just take

947
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: guys who aren't particularly special and maybe make them into something,

948
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: and then that makes your farmcistem even stronger. You can

949
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: trade those guys and then bring in big pieces. Like

950
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: It's just it seems so.

951
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Smart, especially because, like you allude to, the Mets pharma system,

952
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: especially in terms of pitching, is very much lacking. We

953
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: don't really have any guys in our entire system who

954
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: I would say have like frontline potential, like I talk

955
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: about Jose Boudo or Adam Aler, Like these are fine pitchers.

956
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: McGill has been definitely success story this year, But Jose

957
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: Bullos can't be the best pitching prospect in your organization.

958
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: Like you're probably not great. The guy throws mid nineties

959
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: with a good change up, like, that's fine. I think

960
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: he'll be a major leaguer. But cow body's taking freaks

961
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: and turning him into monsters. He's taking regular people and

962
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: turning him into freaks. Like that is something that can

963
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: really change the outlook of your minor league system.

964
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: I love to bring him in. I really would the

965
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: two pitching whispers, sign me up, sign me up right now.

966
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: I just hope it wouldn't be body at the expense

967
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: of Heffner. I would be pretty upset about that.

968
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't like that. I don't want

969
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: to get of both of them. I want Jeremy Hefner

970
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: here as long as possible. We know where the half crew.

971
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, my helf New Jersey would really really look like,

972
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: really look stupid.

973
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: If that happened, that would really suck. And then we

974
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: got some positive news. I mean not really, it's kind

975
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: of that's kind of mean. But Albert Almore I got DFA,

976
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: So I'm happy.

977
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: That was before Game three, which is just like, fine.

978
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: There's a nice guy. I'm sure he's a great dude,

979
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: but great, good ridden smell you later. Never come back.

980
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna get another at bat

981
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: in the major leagues again.

982
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: He's a prime KBO candidate.

983
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: It's just so crazy to watch, like the decline of Alberta.

984
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: Moore from like a super prospect who like was in

985
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: all the trade possible offers for some of the best

986
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: players in baseball when the Cubs were making their rise.

987
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: He was a very competent player for them. He made

988
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: major contributions to some very good teams.

989
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: And he just can't hit. He's not even that a

990
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: great defense anymore.

991
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: He's just a bad player, Like there's just no way

992
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: around it. I think a lot of it had to

993
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: do with, like when he did hit that girl and

994
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: like in the stands. I think that probably is done

995
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: a little bit to his mental side of the game,

996
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: and that's really really tough. Don't wish out on anybody,

997
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, I just don't need to see that experiment

998
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: with the Mets. So yeah, he's gone, see you later.

999
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1000
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: And then just one other kind of funny thing I

1001
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: want to bring up is all our football fans out there,

1002
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: the Giants today and playing another dreadfully brutal game and

1003
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: awful loss for the New.

1004
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: York Giants one of the worst New York football teams

1005
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: out there.

1006
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: We won't talk about the other one.

1007
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't eve think they played the game yet.

1008
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: Three bi weeks in a row, shocking.

1009
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: But the Giants, very in a very timely manner, retired

1010
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: Eli Manning's numbers. They put him in the Ring of honor,

1011
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: had a great halftime ceremony. Wouldn't that be cool for

1012
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: a team to retire guy's numbers and like a good manner,

1013
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: people who meant the loss of their organization.

1014
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: It'd be cool if like David Wright could have his

1015
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: number retired. He's been retired for what two or three

1016
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: years now?

1017
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: His numbers should be retired right now.

1018
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: Jerry Kuzman retired in nineteen eighty five, and the Mets

1019
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: retired his number this year twenty twenty one.

1020
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: Twenty years to retire Cherry Kuzman's number.

1021
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of that is the Willpond stuff.

1022
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: To be fair, like I think I think Steve was

1023
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: like very much in the forefront of wanting to get

1024
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: these guys number retired. There's a list of guys that

1025
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: should be retired, Keith, David Wright. We got Piazzas. We

1026
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about him. You could retire Johann

1027
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: I'd be cool with that.

1028
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: You can't.

1029
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: There, come on, no hitter. He was great for us, dude.

1030
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: He played for the Mets for like six years. Yes,

1031
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: so you can't be retiring this many numbers. You don't

1032
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: have that many accolades on your team. Like people still

1033
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: gotta win numbers.

1034
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: We're not the Yankees. Like the Yankees retire a lot

1035
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: of numbers because they have like.

1036
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: Tons of MVPs whatever to get them all.

1037
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: We're getting down slippery slow.

1038
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: It's like the stupid fucking montage the Mets played before

1039
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: every single game where they where they give they they

1040
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: mark the date for like super inconspicuous and consequential events

1041
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: in the history.

1042
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: It's like the Mets, Mets won a wild card game.

1043
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: Mets won the division nineteen eighty eight.

1044
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty eight was ridicularly disappointing season, the last year

1045
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: that that corps was together, and they lost the series

1046
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: to a Dodger team that was significantly worse than they were.

1047
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: Why are we celebrating that?

1048
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: To Todd Pratt big home run in like the playoffs,

1049
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: It's like, what the mess to do that year they lost.

1050
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: The next series they died.

1051
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: It was like an nld as a home run in

1052
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine.

1053
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: Why is that on our montage? That montage is eight

1054
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: minutes long, It could be forty eight seconds.

1055
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: We're the Mets man, where the mess? There's just not

1056
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot of great that's kind of on in

1057
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: the what sixty years of existence.

1058
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: I was at a Subway Series game with one of

1059
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: my puzzies. Shout out to Luke, big Yankee fan. Also

1060
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: just a big fucking troll. What the toy on your

1061
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: side is hanging out with Luca Ario. He knows if

1062
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: he's not gonna listen to this, but I'll just talk

1063
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: shit to him non stop. And now every single time

1064
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: the Mets do something minorly good, which hasn't been that

1065
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: much in the last few weeks, but I remember after

1066
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: the Hobby thumbs down game turned into the walkoff hit, he.

1067
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Was like, put on the montage.

1068
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: They probably would. They probably would if they could make

1069
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: those edits.

1070
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: If they resigned him, it's gonna be on the montage.

1071
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, the video next year, without a doubt.

1072
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

1073
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: But also like when the Lindor hit that big home run,

1074
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: saying in that baseball He's like, that's on the montage,

1075
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, I hate you, but you're right.

1076
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: You're so right. Remember when Francisco Lidoor had his moment

1077
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: three home runs of one game. That was cool.

1078
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Francisco and Door with a signature Mets moment in the

1079
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: second d and then thanks mad vascaration.

1080
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: Fucking he's awful. All right, Well, what who got next?

1081
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: Arland's man.

1082
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to a bunch of games.

1083
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: We're breaking up with the mess. It's gonna be We're

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Speaker 3: gonna get really drunk and get sloppy this week. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: If you guys are there, keep an eye out for us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be all around the ballpark. Gonna be sitting

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Speaker 1: behind home played a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna sneak into the club level, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be sitting behind home played a little bit, maybe

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00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: a little upper deck action. To be with the folk

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00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: that are the true fans, of course, and we'll be

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00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: with the richies too, why not. But if you see us,

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00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: make sure you say what's up? Say hi. Love talking

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00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: to the fans of interacting with you guys, and let's

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00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: have some fun out a Mets game because watching them

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00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: on the field gonna be painful. It's gonna stink, it

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Speaker 1: really is, but we can make the most of it.

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Speaker 1: Have a couple of drinks, a hot dog, enjoy our time.

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00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Literally, if anyone's at the game this week, hit up

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Speaker 2: a messages tweet at us. We'll definitely like to say

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00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: hi because and just commiserate together because the team is

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00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: such a fucking disaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pitching matchups, let's just do it for the sake

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Speaker 1: of consistency. Let's let's find out who we're gonna watch

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Speaker 1: pitch this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got Marcus Stroman pitching. We actually have

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00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: a double heather on Tuesday, Are you kidding me? Oh

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Speaker 2: my god?

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00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Double header Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Stroman Game one against Trevor Rodgers. That's not gonna

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00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: be fun. Tywan Walker in the second game. He's probably

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00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: gonna get shelld. Tyler McGill on Wednesday night versus Eliezer Hernandez,

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00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: that probably won't be great. And our Ace rich Hill

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Speaker 2: is gonna.

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Speaker 3: No, no the race.

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Speaker 2: Dispect Marcus strom It's not true towing the rubber on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night as we send off the met season.

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Speaker 1: I guess Edward Cabrera and we'll behind home played for

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00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: that game. Can't wait. We get to watch rich Hill

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00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: in the prime seats and the best seats now, so

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have a nice comfy cushion seat to

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00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: see rich Hill throw eighty six.

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Speaker 2: I want to get his attention. I want to like

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00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: tell Rich Hill he's done a great job. I want

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00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: to make contact with him and compliment him.

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Speaker 1: All Right, stadium gonna be empty. What's gonna be the

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00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: vibe at the stadium for this.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be so empty, dude, it was so empty

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: last week. The stadium is gonna be absolutely empty. The

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00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Red Sox the Philly series looked like a joke, and

1133
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: that was on a weekend. Even those Cardinals games looked ridiculous,

1134
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: Like I can't see there being more than twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: people any of these games.

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00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Uh, We're gonna have a blast regardless.

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00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm not allowing myself to let the game ruin it.

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00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: No, We're very much gonna get after it.

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: Even the game that we are gonna be sitting close

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00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: because we we just we went we bought some club

1141
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: seats for a very affordable rate.

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00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: I want to get there like five o'clock.

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00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Really just take a oh, definitely, definitely, and a few

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: few roads sodas as well.

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Why not if you've ever just no doubt will be consumed.

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00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: Well. I think that's a perfect way for us to

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: wrap up episode number fifty three of the Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening, Thank you guys for watching.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok at mets up YouTube

1150
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: channel mets up Podcast. You can find our video content there.

1151
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: Follow James on Twitter at Jeter had No Range, me myself,

1152
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: Mark Luiso at Draftneck, Mark with the c uh Yeah.

1153
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Give us a five starr rate and give us a

1154
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: review Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast. It's all I got

1155
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: for you, guys. Thank you so much for listening, Thank

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00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: you so much for watching, and we'll see you on

1157
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Speaker 1: the next episode of the Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Peace Out, peace out, guys, thanks for listening.