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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We go

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Speaker 2: up to Washington, DC right now to the Senate cloak

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Speaker 2: room where Senator Ran Paul as the fury and chaos

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Speaker 2: continues to descend on the United States Capitol, surrounding the

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Speaker 2: border and more. Senator Ram Paul is there with us

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Speaker 2: and Senator Paul, I know you're also tracking all the

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Speaker 2: lies spread by doctor Fauci and others during the course

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Speaker 2: of COVID, and I appreciate you giving us some time here.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you just right out at the top,

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Speaker 2: because I think the last time I saw you was

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Speaker 2: New York City when you had your new book out,

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Speaker 2: which I would encourage everybody to go check out dealing

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Speaker 2: with all the lies that we were told during COVID.

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Speaker 2: Buck and I have discussed this a bunch. Your home

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Speaker 2: state's a great example. Nobody paid a price for being

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Speaker 2: wrong on COVID, and even in the state of Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: which is a red state, Andy Basheer, who was wrong

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Speaker 2: on virtually everything, got reelected as someone who was right

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Speaker 2: on almost everything COVID and thank you for being right.

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Speaker 2: How much does it disappoint you that almost no political

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Speaker 2: figures paid a price at all for being wrong on

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Speaker 2: virtually everything that mattered when it came to COVID.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to realize that not only was

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Speaker 3: he wrong from a public opinion point of view, our

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Speaker 3: governor put on mandate after mandate that was struck down

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Speaker 3: by the court. The federal courts found unconstitutional, his ban

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Speaker 3: on travel, his ban on church, you name it. He

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Speaker 3: had half a dozen edicts found unconstitutional. And you're right,

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Speaker 3: he didn't pay a penalty. But I think what it

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Speaker 3: shows you, at least in our race, it was about

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Speaker 3: port barrel politics. He passed out a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: We had two terrible disasters, and the face of the

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Speaker 3: relief was the governor. And I think this is a

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Speaker 3: real mistake that politicians go around with our money and

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Speaker 3: act like it came from them. It didn't come from

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Speaker 3: our governor. Came from the people. And I don't begrudge

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Speaker 3: the fact that we get involved with emergencies, but the

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Speaker 3: governor became the face of the money and it was

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Speaker 3: if it was his money is bringing to the community.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's how we won election. But you're

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Speaker 3: right he didn't pay much of a penalty for you know,

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Speaker 3: sending basically state agents, state police agents to a church

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Speaker 3: to take down license plates. I find that grotesque, a

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Speaker 3: grow tesque violation of religious freedom, banning travel, grow tesque

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Speaker 3: violation of freedom, and court struck him down. And you're right,

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Speaker 3: he didn't pay a political penalty, which is disappointing.

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Speaker 2: It's disappointing not only in Kentucky but everywhere. I mean

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Speaker 2: basically every awful draconian dictator, governor and or senator or

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Speaker 2: representative got re elected. You are continuing to hold doctor

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Speaker 2: Fauci's feet to the fire and scarily gain a function.

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Speaker 2: Research which you have been very foremost in opposing, is

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Speaker 2: continuing to get accelerated, and even more deadly viruses are

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Speaker 2: continuing to be created. How worried are you that, as

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Speaker 2: bad as COVID was, that we have created a world

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Speaker 2: where far more dangerous viruses are being created. And based

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Speaker 2: on the evidence supporting that COVID got out of a

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Speaker 2: Chinese lab, how worried should we all be that the

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Speaker 2: next virus that escapes is going to be far more deadly?

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Speaker 3: Extremely worried? We have evidence, indirect evidence that the Chinese

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Speaker 3: are experimenting with NIPA virus and with Ebola virus, both

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Speaker 3: of which have about a fifty percent mortality. But it's

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Speaker 3: even worse than you think. If you take a virus

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Speaker 3: that has fifty percent mortality, like ebola, it spreads like

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Speaker 3: ebola if you mutate it and try to make it aerosolized.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if a bola spread like COVID did

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Speaker 3: with a fifty percent mortality. We're talking about the destruction

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Speaker 3: a fifty percent mortality. That's what we're talking about. And

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Speaker 3: yet we don't have significant controls on that research, not

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Speaker 3: on those experiments happening here. And the argument you'll hear

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Speaker 3: the Chinese are going to do it, and we need

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Speaker 3: valid because experimenting with making Ebola or any of these

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Speaker 3: is the fundamental disagreement I had with Falci. He said

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Speaker 3: He said that the knowledge gain was worth the risk

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Speaker 3: we disagree with Anthony Fauci, and yet he was given

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Speaker 2: You know, Siner Ram Paul with us. Now there's a

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Speaker 2: at the border and in fact Republicans are to blame,

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Speaker 2: as he said earlier this week, how do you react.

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Speaker 3: Well the facts of the opposite. You know, he got

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Speaker 3: rid of he abdoicated from ninety four executive orders that

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Speaker 3: Trump had put in place to control the border. Trump

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Speaker 3: the borders that Texas is erecting. Texas putting up razor

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court to take it down. So it's laughable

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Speaker 3: for Biden to say, oh, I just need more power

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Speaker 3: and Donald Trump closed the border. So it's a fallacious

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Speaker 3: But the goings on in the Senate and the Senate

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Speaker 3: Republican leadership have allowed this to happen because they put

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Speaker 3: forward a border bill that isn't any good, wouldn't fix

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Speaker 3: now is going to come out today and vote right now,

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Speaker 3: we're voting on the floor, vote against this.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats are all say, no, we gave him a

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Speaker 3: border bill is perfect, and they're all leaving it. It

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Speaker 3: was never perfect. It's worse than the existing law. And

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Speaker 3: the existing law actually Donald Trump used to close the border.

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Speaker 3: So this fake border bill has always been a pretense

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Speaker 3: for getting more money to Ukraine. Mitch McConnell's sole desires

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Speaker 3: to fund Ukraine. That's all he wants to do. It's

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Speaker 3: of an elaborate ruse over the border which turned out

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Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul with us now everybody and senator on

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Speaker 1: the issue of the funding and where it stands within

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Speaker 1: the Congress right now. You know, with the supplemental drama

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Speaker 1: where that goes, what you think is going to happen

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Speaker 1: here with Ukraine funding, with the supplemental funding for Israel,

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a series of key votes and

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Speaker 3: they're happening right now. The first vote is over whether

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Speaker 3: and Israel, and then also with the fake border bill

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Speaker 3: that doesn't fix the border, that makes it worse. Almost

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Speaker 3: every Republican's going to vote no, and they won't have

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Speaker 3: enough votes to get on that bill. When that fails,

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Speaker 3: Schumer is immediately going to put forward a bill minus

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Speaker 3: the border provisions. And my proposal, and I spoke at

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Speaker 3: counter that we're already in emergency. One of the main

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Speaker 3: an emergency. I think the emergency is we just had

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Speaker 3: two months. The emergency exists, and we shouldn't have a trigger.

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Speaker 3: The trigger should be zero, The trigger should be one

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Speaker 3: to the Democrats with a real border bill. There's an

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Speaker 3: to get on the next bill because they are so

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Speaker 3: concerned with sending your money to Ukraine, and people need

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Speaker 3: to realize it's all borrowed. We don't have any extra money.

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Speaker 3: There is no rainy day fund, there's no money sitting around.

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Speaker 3: The money they want to send to Ukraine for good

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Speaker 3: isn't fiscally conservative to send money to other countries unless

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Speaker 1: Center Paul, what do you think about the I think

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Speaker 1: it's seventeen billion dollars that is supposed to go to Israel.

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Speaker 1: People are asking I've heard it, you know, more lately

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Speaker 3: I think the argument has some validity to it. Their

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Speaker 3: I will say though that even I compromised because they've

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Speaker 3: we do have to worry about the dollars, I said,

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Speaker 3: I'll vote for it, and I did support it paid for.

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Speaker 3: Take away the irs all that extra money they threw

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Speaker 3: at the irs billions of dollars. And that's what Johnson

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Speaker 3: won't vote for it unpaid for, even for Israel. Look,

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Speaker 3: I think we're a great ally. I've visited Israel. We

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Speaker 3: So it has to be paid for. And so this

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Speaker 3: bill to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan will be unpaid for

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Speaker 1: Comes to these different funding issues, What do you think

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Speaker 1: is the best realistic outcome from your person perpective given

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Speaker 1: where we are with all the supplementals and the wrangling

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Speaker 3: I think the main thing is not to capitulate on

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Speaker 3: Biden that was sticking together on. But for the Republicans,

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Speaker 1: It's Buck solo for a bit here. Clay on the

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Speaker 1: But it's amazing that they're all these people out there

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Speaker 4: I think what's really shocked that was the way he

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Speaker 4: Right wingers and conservatives like Tucker Carlson saying that he's

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Speaker 1: How can you judge an interview that you haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's really what it is. All the rest

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Speaker 1: they have to be otherwise, why not just say we're

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Speaker 1: only supporting the Palestinian people and we think that Hamas

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Speaker 1: should go as well. Oh, wouldn't that be interesting. That's

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Speaker 1: not what they say. I'm bringing all this up, though,

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Speaker 1: because this is why the Democrats are trying to tie

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Speaker 1: these bills together. They're trying to make sure that they

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Speaker 1: don't have their members set it in the House on

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Speaker 1: record voting in favor of something that could only be

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Speaker 1: money for Israel. Right, if it's just money for the

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Speaker 1: state of Israel, there's no way to spin that if

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Speaker 1: you are a representative with Let's say, I don't know

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Speaker 1: a lot of Muslim Americans in your district who are

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Speaker 1: very unhappy with the notion of the seventeen billion dollars

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Speaker 1: going to Israel, as well as the Biden administrations sort

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Speaker 1: of supportive but also backstabbing policy when it comes to Israel.

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Speaker 1: You see, That's what's going on here. They don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know. Well, we all know. They don't want

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Speaker 1: the American people to clearly see where the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: stands on this, which is having it both ways. They

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Speaker 1: want to be both supportive of Israel and supportive of

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Speaker 1: the Palestinians Hamas and that's the whole game. And you say, well,

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Speaker 1: how can they manage that? They have not just compliant,

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Speaker 1: but complicit media that wants to help them at every

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Speaker 1: way possible to achieve this, and they probably will get

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Speaker 1: away with it. That's the part that's so frustrating, because

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Speaker 1: people who are attuned already know, they already know that

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Speaker 1: there is a pro Hamas caucus within the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: They already know that the anti Semitism in America today,

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Speaker 1: the real and virulent anti Semitism that exists, is overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: on the left. And it's overwhelmingly on the left, not

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Speaker 1: just because of the victimology narrative that is effectively the

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Speaker 1: everything when you're talking about the Palestinian community on college campuses,

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Speaker 1: but also because, as we've discussed from the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: in the left wing intersectional view of the world, Jews

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Speaker 1: are white, and because Jews are white and they are

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Speaker 1: more powerful with their military and Israel than the predominantly

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Speaker 1: brown and Muslim Palestinians, they view it as a racial conflict.

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Speaker 1: They view it as an issue of race. They think

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Speaker 1: of Israel Palestine as almost an extension of b l M.

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Speaker 1: Even the Palestinians are in black doesn't matter, non white,

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Speaker 1: non white, and as we've discussed, there are even black Jews.

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Speaker 1: But the problem with knowing stuff is that you become

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Speaker 1: more and more frustrated with the Left on everything because

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Speaker 1: their positions are only possible through ignorance, lies, and distraction.

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Speaker 1: Certainly true with regard to how they approach the state

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Speaker 1: of Israel FOREMA policy. It's also true when you look

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Speaker 1: at what their plans are for Ukraine, to keep saying

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Speaker 1: so the plan is just to keep funding it until when,

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Speaker 1: until whenever, Well, that sounds like a forever war to

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Speaker 1: me that the taxpayers we just talked to Rand Paul

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Speaker 1: about this and the earlier this hour, are are going

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Speaker 1: to be on the hook for maybe there should be

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Speaker 1: a strategy. What have we learned from our time in Iraq,

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Speaker 1: our time in Afghanistan? Just staying and throwing trillions of

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Speaker 1: dollars after the support of the status quo is not

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Speaker 1: a strategy. This is a lesson that I would hope

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Speaker 1: that we unfortunately learned at the tremendous cost of blood

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Speaker 1: and treasure in those countries. But it's a lesson that.

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Speaker 1: I would hope that we apply going forward. We apply

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Speaker 1: it on foreign policy, apply it on all issues. If

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Speaker 1: you don't. If the government does not have a stated mission,

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Speaker 1: that is something it can accomplish. If it's going to

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Speaker 1: lie about what the mission is, if it doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what the mission is, everybody should be asking questions. And

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Speaker 1: this conflation of all the different funding streams here the

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Speaker 1: border and and Israel and and Ukraine, it's and I

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Speaker 1: think Taiwan too, right. I mean, this is all meant

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Speaker 1: to subvert the will of the people expressed through their

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Speaker 1: elected representatives because they're just lying to you. They're evading accountability,

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Speaker 1: They're doing everything possible to make sure that the people

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Speaker 1: who are supposed to vote for them don't know what

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Speaker 1: they are doing. It's a way of hiding out in public.

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Speaker 1: That's why they tie all this stuff together. That's why

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Speaker 1: things that have nothing to do with each other. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't vote for a I voted for A B

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Speaker 1: or C. And that's why they have to put a

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Speaker 1: B and C on the same bill. The dodge. It's

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Speaker 1: a fraud, you see it, I see it. But Democrats

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Speaker 1: may get away with it. On Ukraine and I don't

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Speaker 1: think they'll be able to get away with it on

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Speaker 1: the border. I think that finally it has reached the

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Speaker 1: point of critical mass when it comes to the numbers,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the public opinion that has shifted

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Speaker 1: in response to the obvious reality of endless illegal immigration

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Speaker 1: flows into this country. There's a panic among Democrats. They

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Speaker 1: can smile, they can do the Chuck Schumer and smile

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Speaker 1: for the cameras and lie and smear and lie. That

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Speaker 1: will work for thirty or forty percent of the country.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to work for the sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: or seventy percent of the country that knows the whole

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Speaker 1: thing with the border under Biden is a disaster, and

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Speaker 1: they're lying to you about it too. You know, I

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Speaker 1: would have more respect for Democrats if they would just

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Speaker 1: be willing to say to the American people, you know

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Speaker 1: what this is, why have a border? Why not let

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Speaker 1: anybody who wants to come into the country come into

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Speaker 1: the country. The more the merrier, they just say that

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Speaker 1: therefore give them power feel about it. No, instead, it's

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Speaker 1: just all double talk and garbage and lies and misdirection.

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Speaker 1: Oh we want to secure border, and we're gonna let

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Speaker 1: five thousand a day, and we want a secure border.

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Speaker 1: The five thousand we're letting in are all coming in illegally.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, the president can undo all this if he

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Speaker 1: just decides to. But don't worry, it's gonna It's a scam.

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Speaker 1: It's a scam, and the only hope of its stopping

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Speaker 1: is people in power, a president in power a year

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Speaker 1: Everything else they say to you about it, it's just

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Speaker 1: Buck than all of you out there. Plus the Sunday

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Speaker 1: hang for laughs. Usually it's when Clay and I are

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Speaker 1: or something like that, Just kidding. We talked about all

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Speaker 1: pull up where where did it go? With the Who's

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Speaker 5: Guys?

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Speaker 1: You got me on the calls? Cliff, Sorry, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to read this off my phone. You're Cliff. What have

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Speaker 1: you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Buck, this is a Cliff.

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Speaker 7: I'm calling from New Orleans. First time caller. Appreciate you

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Speaker 7: taking my call.

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Speaker 3: My question for you is, as the United.

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Speaker 7: States citizen, what legal recorse does the senateten have against

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Speaker 7: the government.

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Speaker 3: In a particular situation that we're in. And the other

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Speaker 3: question I have is I remember a long time.

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Speaker 7: Ago reading that Sorrows was involved with the collapse of

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Speaker 7: Ukraine years and years and years ago. Can you palidate that?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, So what with the first let's start the

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Speaker 1: first one. You're at asking me what redress does a

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Speaker 1: citizen have against the government for what?

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Speaker 7: For what they're doing right now?

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Speaker 3: Like, do we have any legal recourse?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean legal think about this. Legal recourse would

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Speaker 1: mean going through the process of the courts, and the

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Speaker 1: courts are full of Now there are some good judges,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of that is from Trump, but the

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Speaker 1: the reality is you're still going through the system and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna come up across a lot of progressive, far

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Speaker 1: left wing justices or judges in that process. So no,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just as a general matter, like you can't

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Speaker 1: just through the government because you're upset, you're not gonna win,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna waste your time and you'll get they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: shoot that down. As for Soros involvement, honestly, I'd have

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Speaker 1: to go back and see. You know, Soros is perhaps

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Speaker 1: currencies and making a ton of money from the economic

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Speaker 1: misery that he induced in those places. In terms of Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and look and see what

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Speaker 1: the I'm not saying there isn't. I just you're you're

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Speaker 1: catching me on an issue where I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that i'd have the facts line up before I

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Speaker 1: would speak on it. I mean, the biggest problem Ukraine

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Speaker 1: has is, or I should say, the biggest mistake that

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Speaker 1: was made in retrospect, was the Budapest Memorandum, where you

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Speaker 1: had Ukraine after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the

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Speaker 1: collapse of the Soviet Union, third most nuclear armed state

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Speaker 1: on the planet. I don't think anyone's gonna invade with

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Speaker 1: that being the case. But Ukraine, trying to be a

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Speaker 1: good guy, said, Okay, I'll trust the UK Russia. That

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Speaker 1: was a mistake and the United States and the Budapest

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Speaker 1: Memorandum to protect our territorial sovereignty in exchange for giving

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Speaker 1: up our nukes. That was that was not a thing

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Speaker 1: that they would repeat most likely, But that's all true.

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Speaker 1: You go back and look at that. That's pretty remarkable. Uh,

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Speaker 1: John in Texas, what have you got for us? John?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for taking my call. So Buck earlier on

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Speaker 7: the broadcast, when Clay said that he thought it was

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Speaker 7: indefensible for Nikki Hayley to continue running. It got me thinking,

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Speaker 7: there is one scenario that I think it really is

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Speaker 7: in her best interest to continue, and that is as

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Speaker 7: we get up to the convention, should Trump be convicted

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Speaker 7: by that point even and look, I'm a Trump supporter,

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Speaker 7: but I would have serious heartburn trying to vote for

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Speaker 7: someone who has been convicted. I think it would just

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Speaker 7: compromise him and dis really from being able to leave.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hold on, this is this, This is the

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Speaker 1: interesting part to me. You are a Trump voter, you

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Speaker 1: voted for him twice before, you're ready to vote for

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Speaker 1: him again. But if he's convicted, you would change your mind.

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Speaker 7: I only because I have to separate my idealistic self

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Speaker 7: from my practical self, and my practical self maybe you know,

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Speaker 7: going down the road of compromise is that I think

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Speaker 7: Nikki could be presented as a cleaner solution to keep

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Speaker 7: a Republican or to get a Republican back in the

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Speaker 7: White House. I think that you'd have maybe some sympathetic

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Speaker 7: Democratic voters who don't want to vote for the old

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Speaker 7: guy that may be swayed. But more importantly, I think

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Speaker 7: within the Republicans that we could be in getting ourselves

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Speaker 7: into mired into a really.

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Speaker 1: Bad all right, I gotta leave it there. We're at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show. But thank you. I think

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Speaker 1: our friend there's thinking about this a little too in depth.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be Trump v. Biden. Take it to

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Speaker 1: the bank, everybody,